June 4, 2026
Love Island (EP 2): Crying?! Already? It’s Only Been 24 Hours!
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RSS Feed The drama has already begun in the Fiji villa. Spoiler Alert: We now have two islanders who are “single and vulnerable.” As the uncomfortable on-screen kissing continues, so do the awkward getting-to-know you conversations. The final fire pit scene ends with a sarcastic air kiss and an eat sh*t look from the woman this show may not want to lose, Kenzie, who’s quickly becoming must see tv (for all the wrong reasons).
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00:00:02
Speaker 1: Hey that folks. It is Thursday, June fourth, and Love Island Season eight, episode two ended last night with a pricky, big cliffhanger, and it appears one of two Islanders is about to get kicked off. Is it gonna be the cop who quit his job to be on the show, or is it gonna be the girl that everybody seems to be talking about? And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. She do we call the star of the show yet Robes? Or she's the what was it, hudah it was? Is she that? Already in episode two.
00:00:39
Speaker 2: We're talking about Kenzie and she's the most talked about, but not for any of the reasons. She's gonna want to hear because she's very intense, she's very expressive. Some people might say she has crazy eyes. She's just a lot and so, yes, everyone seems to be there're already memes. My dog already sent me tiktoks about her, and I think about you know what I said to Ava when she sent me this TikTok yesterday, I said that poor girl is going to leave the villa and she's going to see all of this and of all the people on that cast, she appears to be the least prepared to handle it.
00:01:17
Speaker 1: And it transitioned from episode one to us being a little amused by her, a little annoyed by her, curious about her, to a little sympathy for her because there were some things we will get into in a second, but we started to recognize that makes your heart go out to her, and that's just the truth throats.
00:01:39
Speaker 3: Yes, I agree.
00:01:40
Speaker 2: However, this show ended season sorry, episode two ended with her giving a massive eat shit look.
00:01:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was also coming from a herd place. That was also we'll explain the bond byer here. I'll get into that in a second. And again, the other person that by the cliffhanger is Sean, the guy who's and talked about so much because the mayor of his town was pissed because he actually quit his job as a police officer, hadn't even been on the job a year full year, didn't appreciate they're down one in a small town.
00:02:12
Speaker 2: Yes, he moved to this small town to be closer to his child, who was I guess with his former girlfriends. So he had just moved there and said sea when he got the opportunity to be on.
00:02:24
Speaker 1: Love Island to some degree, we could understand that, given with some police officers get paid. But still it's okay. So this is where we are. Let me, we had impressions after the first episode. Let me just ask off the top, second episode and the books, just first impressions. I know we'll get into some stuff, but just reaction right off the top.
00:02:42
Speaker 2: I mean, it's getting good. The drama is building, and I'm just wondering aloud as I watched episode two, is kissing now like a directive? Are they telling the contestants the Islanders to kiss as often as possible?
00:02:56
Speaker 3: Seems like it, and my.
00:03:00
Speaker 1: First impression is getting close. I said it to you several times throughout. I said, they're about to lose me, that this kissing stuff is too much. I don't know if they think it's hot or who. Maybe they can't control what the Islanders do, but they are setting them up in scenarios robes to encourage that.
00:03:17
Speaker 2: You're choosing people with makeout sessions. That is a directive from the producers. They don't say the person's name aloud, they just start making out. And it got to the point where and people are starting different characters. I shouldn't say characters because they're playing themselves. But certain people are starting to grow on us a little more than others. But Kse, the nursing assistant at a nursing home, when some of the kissing was going on, he looked to his girl and said, I can't watch this now. It was a tense situation, but still I felt him in that moment.
00:03:52
Speaker 1: It's awkward, it's too much. And the word that's being thrown around most, I suppose is cringey, it's MS. I don't know. Maybe I'm past whatever age to where I'm the proof.
00:04:05
Speaker 3: No, our younger kids are saying the same thing.
00:04:08
Speaker 1: Oh but I just I do not understand this. And they're thrown together in such a way. We're going to talk about in cyclists do it now? The new feature now where the bombshells take two people into the bed and sleep with them that night. Well, I mean they're setting up very sexual situations that I don't know why they feel necessary a move mean to be edgier. Again, it's their choice. I'm not the target audience, but man, they're getting close to losing me.
00:04:38
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's unnecessarily sexual and provocative when I think look maybe when you get more invested in a relationship and in a couple where you're rooting for them or you like them, it won't be so awful to watch them make out, but to see strangers awkwardly make out one after the other. I don't know anybody who finds that be a small segment who thinks that's hot. I think most people think that's gross.
00:05:04
Speaker 1: Right next to each other. Okay, it's a decision, a conscious one they're making, and it continues, and it will continue, the doors and the surprises. Are you Are you liking this? I kind of not.
00:05:17
Speaker 3: I think it's a cop out. It's you know what.
00:05:19
Speaker 2: It seems like they're trying too hard to be cute, and I think just let it be what it is. It's a great concept. We love watching actual relationships, and not just romantic ones, but platonic and see how people figure things out in groups. All of it is incredibly from a social experiment standpoint, fascinating to watch. We don't need some of the gimmicky stuff that they've now added. I don't know why to make it they think more interesting. It is so fascinating in on its own right.
00:05:48
Speaker 1: I think it's been great and I guess they'll always say shows have to evolve, try new things. Maybe the stuff, the stuff won't come back. This is the one off. I don't know, but the drama, even of the doors, ends up making me feel bad because it ends up we've seen several people humiliated essentially with that's a good word.
00:06:07
Speaker 2: Yes, you open a door and it's empty on the other side because a person has literally ditched you.
00:06:12
Speaker 1: Because and you not even facing the person who has now hurt you. They're just gone.
00:06:18
Speaker 2: I don't and even the people who left who wanted to keep their options open, which by the way, is totally understandable after having just met someone twenty four hours before, even one of the contestants, and I believe it was Beatrice, Beatrice, I want to say her name right, but she even said I felt so bad because I thought when he opened the door and didn't see me there, I'd be able to come back and explain to him, hey, I like you.
00:06:40
Speaker 3: I still want to.
00:06:40
Speaker 2: Keep the door open, literally like figuratively excuse me for a potential romance. But I also wanted to see what else was out there and to make him understand so for him not to get any explanation, and for her not to be able to give one, she even felt bad about.
00:06:55
Speaker 3: And I do think it's unnecessarily cruel.
00:06:57
Speaker 1: It's reality show ghosting. You just got dumped. They just disappeared and no explanation why.
00:07:04
Speaker 3: And the world is watching and now you feel a fool.
00:07:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that stuff Robes is apparently playing out.
00:07:11
Speaker 3: And it does and it hasn't sat well with Kenzi.
00:07:13
Speaker 1: Okay, let's get the King for Let's get the King. Yeah, okay, did what did we see in episode one from Kensey and Folks One Room when she's the young lady from Kennesaw just graduate from nursing school. I believe in.
00:07:24
Speaker 2: Kenesaw, Georgia, and we know, I mean, oh my goodness, so many of my friends talk just like her, look like her, like she's someone who we know right, Like she's got that Southern charm. But she's very intense and immediately her eyes just everything about her it's she wants this so bad and you can feel it, and you're almost like, I'm in my mind begging her to pull back, save something for later. She's just putting it all out there and you just can see her setting herself up for disaster and to that point. Episode two opens with her having just seen that the door on the other side was empty, and her.
00:08:07
Speaker 3: Guy Zach, went to go see what else was out there.
00:08:09
Speaker 2: But she had been crying like she just ended a two year relationships and so that was what was really uncomfortable to watch.
00:08:19
Speaker 1: Its spiral from the moment that door opened, it spiraled for her the rest of the show.
00:08:24
Speaker 2: Yes, in fact, I actually have a quote that she said because she's so baffled as to why Zach would have not been on the other side of the door when he clearly stated you're not my type beforehand. But she said, I like how I look. I feel like I'm in love with myself. I just want to feel like that about someone else. It was kind of weird.
00:08:44
Speaker 1: You know, And I got, that's so funny you and I wrote down the same quote. I got. I started with it at a different part when she said, I'm being beat down, but I know I'm attractive, I know how I look. That's how she started it. I'm being beat down, rote down twenty.
00:09:00
Speaker 2: And he just went to go see if maybe someone else might be a better fit.
00:09:07
Speaker 1: Which is the point of the show. Yes, but Robes rejection, rejection stings on all levels at any point. No, mch she had known this dude for how many hours? Even? Was it even ours?
00:09:22
Speaker 3: No, it was it was hours.
00:09:23
Speaker 2: But then it was so interesting to watch Kenzie have the conversation with Officer Fancy Pants Sean. The two of them were the ones who were left standing. They had chosen their partners and their partners had not chosen them. And Kenzie asked to Sean, were there warning signs?
00:09:40
Speaker 3: What do you mean signs? You would only you had just met hours? How could there?
00:09:45
Speaker 2: I was like, if she's talking about signs she missed? Also, he made a very clear one to her. He told her he had never dated a blonde before and that she wasn't his type. I don't That was him trying to be as kind as he could, kind of letting her know pretty early on. I don't think I'm that India.
00:10:03
Speaker 1: Okay, where is it, though? Roe, I'm trying to give this young lady some space. Man, I'm trying to and I'm trying to. This is where the only place you and I have talked about this plenty off microphone here and so you know I'm in your camp of what the hell young lady. I'm trying to put them now in this pressure cooker of a reality show to where I could be off this show tonight and be gone from Fiji and miss all these opportunities and might not be a superstar.
00:10:29
Speaker 3: Right, That's probably the source of her.
00:10:31
Speaker 1: Intensity, need something towards.
00:10:33
Speaker 2: It working against her though, to have that In fact, as we're still on the topic with Kenzy, can we talk about her Lyne in the Gazelle. She said that she wanted her man to be like a lion and her to be a gazelle, and that she would be chased and he was only chasing after her. And then she went on because Sean made her breakfast that morning because her guy was gone, and I guess he put the eggs in the shape.
00:10:54
Speaker 3: Of a heart. Yeah, she got so intensely giddy.
00:11:00
Speaker 1: She was happy, you're excited, but.
00:11:02
Speaker 3: In a cautionary way for men, cautionary like it.
00:11:06
Speaker 2: Almost looked like single white female or fatal attraction. It was like, next thing, you know, she's boiling a bunny. Like That's what it felt like. It was just there was an uncomfortable intensity even to her happiness.
00:11:18
Speaker 1: This is we don't know the young lady. Of course, we've only got two episodes that we've only gotten to know her. But if somebody told me she had boiled a bunny.
00:11:27
Speaker 3: You'd believe it.
00:11:30
Speaker 1: I don't think I'd be shocked there. This is not an indictment of her as a person. It's an observation of her behavior on the show right now, and from what we're seeing Robes she is the kindest middle ground way to put it is a lot.
00:11:50
Speaker 2: Yes, and you were even saying, Wow, they knew who they were casting, because look, I do think, yes, they don't need some of the gimmicks that they've already started to sprinkle throughout the show, because if cast well, you can just let things play off. And clearly I think it seems as though this will be an interesting cast that they've put together.
00:12:11
Speaker 1: You know, I thought about this. I'm not sure how it's going to go with this last ceremony, right, somebody's supposed to get kicked off.
00:12:19
Speaker 3: Yes, that'll be tonight.
00:12:21
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, of course that'll be tonight. I wonder will they make any adjustments and what I mean by that rogues if they notice or pay attention to Wow, everybody's talking about Kennedy.
00:12:32
Speaker 2: They don't want her to leave. I actually think having her leave will make the show more boring.
00:12:38
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of the next most interesting character. Wow, actually, who is the next most interesting character?
00:12:45
Speaker 3: Casey?
00:12:46
Speaker 2: Maybe from the nursing home like k Okay, I'm sorry, I like Casey. He's got a great smile and you know what he's not saying, what he's thinking. He's got a big old grin on himself a lot of times, and you're like, what's going on in that head? Also should note still amazing favorite cast member is the narrator. He has still been delivering some incredible funny one liners that are clever and like, Casey had like a crocheted looking tank and tank top, and we know he works as a nursing assistant at a nursing home. He just said, looks like one of his patients might have knitted him a gift before he left.
00:13:20
Speaker 3: I burst out laughing.
00:13:22
Speaker 1: But yet this dude is doing this in real time. Yes, he's seeing this video and reacting to what he's saying. I bet he is so good live.
00:13:30
Speaker 3: We got to get him on the show at some point.
00:13:32
Speaker 1: He is.
00:13:33
Speaker 2: He has been consistently our favorite character throughout and the Bombshells have certainly added some very funny conversations.
00:13:41
Speaker 3: We can get into some of these.
00:13:42
Speaker 2: So each of the Bombshells got to steal, as you mentioned, two people, and we got to watch them overnight in a weird ass trio. But the conversations that they had to try to get to know one another were hilariously entertaining.
00:13:56
Speaker 1: What you do, it's awkward, You're thrown into a room. I don't know. Rod is awkward if you're being filmed constantly and you know you're supposed to be entertaining and you want the audience to like you and you want endorsements later, and all this stuff is in their heads. And don't we know now there are people who train these people before they go on these shows and how to behave They all have media.
00:14:15
Speaker 2: Teams and all this, But at a certain point, you don't really have cameras on you. You are just you fall into the bubble that it is, and I do think ultimately your true self comes out.
00:14:26
Speaker 1: I asked the bonfire at the end. We know how that ended up being left And again they had to add kissing one more time. Why so, yes, they were the Bombshells had to pick one of the two people they were going to choose, and all you have to do is say their name, dude, but they said seal it with a kiss. So then we have to watch another makeout session in front of them. And then they're making out in front of the person they just.
00:14:50
Speaker 2: Rejected, correct, and the person they rejected on the couch too.
00:14:53
Speaker 1: Oh yes, when you get.
00:14:55
Speaker 2: Multiple rejections going on watching this makeout session, that part.
00:14:58
Speaker 1: Of it added to Actually one more thing. Do you like that they don't have the hosts come out and do the bondfi when they have them do it.
00:15:05
Speaker 2: Through No, I really think if Ariano Maddox is the hit that she is, and I understand it's a six week devotion of time in Fiji, but there are worse places in the world to get stuck. They can't get her to show up.
00:15:16
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm not suggesting, no, no, no, no. I thought it was a strategic idea to sometimes have the drama. Oh no, I wasn't suggesting at all that she wasn't available.
00:15:25
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, because that's what I was thinking. That the reason why they're doing it is because that she's otherwise occupied and.
00:15:31
Speaker 1: That could be the case she had to go back and oh not at the very beginning. Seems strange just day two, so it seemed like they're doing that to add to some drum.
00:15:38
Speaker 2: They deliberately chose the people to read the directives from someone who it would be awkward coming from.
00:15:44
Speaker 1: Yes, so that's what happened at the end. So this is what led to the Kinsey moment. Yes at the end.
00:15:50
Speaker 3: Okay, So.
00:15:54
Speaker 2: Kenzie and Sean are both brought up because they're now single and vulnerable. So it's very obvious that tonight one of those two is going home, Kenzie or Sean. So all of a sudden at the end, they have Zach, who did not show up, did not show up on the other side of the door for Kenzie, whoted her who she's been crying about for twenty four hours. He had to read to Kenzie that she is now single and vulnerable. So she then decides to blow a kiss to him and say thank you as sarcastically as she possibly can, and he kind of looked at his new girl baffled, and looked back at Kenzie and.
00:16:31
Speaker 3: Said you're welcome, very very quietly, and then.
00:16:35
Speaker 2: She just gave him the biggest eat shit look and the episode ended.
00:16:40
Speaker 1: Of all the stuff Kinsey did, this was one I would give her. Take that one sus to And they set her up, of course with the show, and it was probably a brilliant thing to do. Have the person that rejected you read the text just.
00:16:52
Speaker 2: For the extra rub. You're now vulnerable because I said no.
00:16:57
Speaker 1: Because I told you all right. But stay here, folks, we're actually gonna pick up with that point robes And I always always say some of these reality shows, reality dating shows, and yes, in particular Love Island sexy as they are as fun as it all is, there are real relationship questions and issues that come up. Stay here, there are a couple in particular we should all pay attention to.
00:17:31
Speaker 2: Welcome back everyone to our Love Island episode. We're gonna be I think, are we fully committing or we're gonna do our best? I know you hate that to basically give you our synopsis or our thoughts on the episodes. They just there are so many. They are putting up episodes of Love Island's USA season eight every single night except for Wednesdays. I think that's pretty awesome. But you know what, they're smart. They know once you get hooked. You want more, you want more, and you're gonna keep tuning in. This is kind of a brilliant strategy for them that has worked and keeps us watching and more importantly, talking headlines are made every day.
00:18:12
Speaker 1: Okay, well that's huge. Firsture headlines can you have and just say they kissed again? There's the Brazilian tongue. Once more people.
00:18:20
Speaker 2: Are gonna start getting dumped. There's gonna be shocking moments.
00:18:23
Speaker 1: You know, yes, I actually asked you this in the seasons past. I'm not sure if I paid that close attention early on. Maybe that's what it is. They have to get past this little stage and when real relationships form, I'm all in you start.
00:18:35
Speaker 3: Yes, it's much like you start investing.
00:18:37
Speaker 1: You know.
00:18:37
Speaker 2: They even say when you're watching a scripted series it takes a couple episodes to really get into it. But once you're invested in each of these people, you care what happens, you care how they react, you care who they hook up with, you care who they end up with.
00:18:51
Speaker 3: So you get invested.
00:18:53
Speaker 1: Okay, then I will buy into that. So the question this comes up all the time, and we saw it play out on episode two. He was honest with her that she Kinsey was not his type. He said it as nicely as he could. I thought I did too. Okay. Should he have been honest with her? No, he should not have been.
00:19:18
Speaker 2: No, he shouldn't have immediately told her I've never dated a blonde before. I typically only like darker features. That just hurts. That's nothing she can change. That's nothing that she can do anything about. And to tell her that was not the right way to say, Hey, I don't know that we're a good fit. He could have absolutely said something like that to her versus basically going.
00:19:40
Speaker 3: Right after her looks immediately you want.
00:19:43
Speaker 2: To talk about, well, if you could have just said, like, hey, I'm feeling friend vibes with you. I think you're an amazing girl, but I just want to put it out right now, like just but don't go straight for her looks. He told her that she wasn't his type based on her looks immediately without really getting to know her. That is tough to hear. That'll throw most women in a tizzy. That's a tough thing to hear. In Kenzie's defense, that's a hard hit right off the bat, and knowing that everyone in America just heard him say that to you, because what she hears is you're not attractive, You're not beautiful.
00:20:17
Speaker 3: I don't think you're hot.
00:20:20
Speaker 1: Man. You just said two fellas. Don't be honest with.
00:20:26
Speaker 3: Us, not about certain things. Don't tell us. Don't be honest with us when it comes.
00:20:31
Speaker 2: If it's the way I look turned you off, you don't need to tell someone.
00:20:35
Speaker 1: Don't be honest with He didn't say turn me off. Don't be honest with us.
00:20:39
Speaker 3: Don't tell us you don't like how we look.
00:20:41
Speaker 1: Don't be honest that I'm not your type. That's different from I don't like how you look.
00:20:46
Speaker 2: I just think that's exactly how it's interpreted and it's how it was intended.
00:20:51
Speaker 1: Okay, so that is very tricky for men. How what is a guy to do? You asked for someone to be honest with you, but only for so much, only for these and if it's about this thing, only go this far. Don't go for the look. Didn't go for anything, but he did, No, he didn't. This is where I will take issue ropes. They put them together, open a door, kiss the stranger on the other side, and you want to talk to me that I'm supposed to know her personality. This whole thing is about looks, an attraction and sex. I ain't got time for this. He could have been much meaner. I thought he could have talked to her. I don't because I do. He saw someone I could get kicked off tonight. Why am I spending time with someone I am not vibing with or not attracted to me.
00:21:36
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with you at all that you should do in these shows exactly what you want to do in terms of what's best for you. But I also think that men, probably when giving a reason for not wanting to go on that second date, shouldn't reference looks in any way.
00:21:51
Speaker 1: Okay, then you're taking issue with a guy doing it outside of the villa.
00:21:56
Speaker 3: I just think if you don't want a girl to be crushed, just.
00:22:00
Speaker 2: Don't bring up her looks. I think we got friend vibes. That's all I can tell you is I got friend vibes with you.
00:22:05
Speaker 1: Your girl. The bombshell when talking to Bryce, what do you go for? And she listed everything in the world.
00:22:15
Speaker 3: He's not okay, I have that written down and I agree.
00:22:18
Speaker 1: Zach explained to Kinsey. Did he not? Yes?
00:22:22
Speaker 2: But I would just say that Bryce obviously has a much better self esteem.
00:22:29
Speaker 1: I guess, wait, dear lady, so now the man needs to measure the woman's self esteem.
00:22:35
Speaker 3: No, I think most women.
00:22:36
Speaker 2: I think most women would be offended if you said, the reason why we're not going to have a second date is because of the way you look.
00:22:43
Speaker 1: Now ask this for me. Would most women respond the way Kinsey has?
00:22:49
Speaker 3: Yes?
00:22:50
Speaker 1: Well, no ring and that's now it's something unique to Kinsey.
00:22:55
Speaker 3: Well, her outward reaction was a lot.
00:23:00
Speaker 2: I do think everyone would feel like if someone said that to me, I would absolutely feel crushed inside, but my pride probably wouldn't let me say it out loud.
00:23:09
Speaker 1: Ask what type of person do you usually date? And that answer is a description that might not be what you are. Where are we finding fault in that response?
00:23:26
Speaker 2: I'm not saying as it's wrong. I'm saying it will be received offensively. That's what I'm saying.
00:23:36
Speaker 1: And there it is. So this is the thing. I guess we need to get that out. Don't be honest, fellas, No, I'm kidding, that's just that obviously, I know when it comes to looks.
00:23:45
Speaker 2: When it comes to looks, maybe just recognize that that's a real soft spot for most women.
00:23:51
Speaker 3: It's for most women, And I don't know.
00:23:53
Speaker 2: I don't think that men feel that vulnerable about their looks in the same way women do. Women sometimes feel like that's their only said, that's their only value. Unfortunately, a lot of women do feel like that. I don't think most men feel like that, and so I think that is why there is a difference when we see Bryce actually kind of laugh off the fact that she said, basically when he said what your type, and she said, I like dark features and he's blonde with blue eyes. So obviously it was a very similar situation that we saw with Kenzie and Zach. But Bryce is a hot model who just let that roll right off his back.
00:24:30
Speaker 1: Again. I'll take care as you were. But it's just this idea now of I don't know, because it might be insulting coming from man, right, this idea that we're telling women not to accept an honest answer, like, well.
00:24:46
Speaker 2: I don't think we're telling women not. I'm just saying there's something to be consider.
00:24:50
Speaker 1: You're telling miss You have said very clearly in this episode fellas, don't do it.
00:24:54
Speaker 2: So don't don't don't use a woman's looks as the reason why you're not going on another day.
00:24:58
Speaker 1: That is not what I'm saying here.
00:25:01
Speaker 3: And even if it's like I'm saying, well, are.
00:25:04
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Speaker 1: Hey that folks. It is Thursday, June fourth, and Love Island Season eight, episode two ended last night with a pricky, big cliffhanger, and it appears one of two Islanders is about to get kicked off. Is it gonna be the cop who quit his job to be on the show, or is it gonna be the girl that everybody seems to be talking about? And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. She do we call the star of the show yet Robes? Or she's the what was it, hudah it was? Is she that? Already in episode two.
00:00:39
Speaker 2: We're talking about Kenzie and she's the most talked about, but not for any of the reasons. She's gonna want to hear because she's very intense, she's very expressive. Some people might say she has crazy eyes. She's just a lot and so, yes, everyone seems to be there're already memes. My dog already sent me tiktoks about her, and I think about you know what I said to Ava when she sent me this TikTok yesterday, I said that poor girl is going to leave the villa and she's going to see all of this and of all the people on that cast, she appears to be the least prepared to handle it.
00:01:17
Speaker 1: And it transitioned from episode one to us being a little amused by her, a little annoyed by her, curious about her, to a little sympathy for her because there were some things we will get into in a second, but we started to recognize that makes your heart go out to her, and that's just the truth throats.
00:01:39
Speaker 3: Yes, I agree.
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Speaker 2: However, this show ended season sorry, episode two ended with her giving a massive eat shit look.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that was also coming from a herd place. That was also we'll explain the bond byer here. I'll get into that in a second. And again, the other person that by the cliffhanger is Sean, the guy who's and talked about so much because the mayor of his town was pissed because he actually quit his job as a police officer, hadn't even been on the job a year full year, didn't appreciate they're down one in a small town.
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Speaker 2: Yes, he moved to this small town to be closer to his child, who was I guess with his former girlfriends. So he had just moved there and said sea when he got the opportunity to be on.
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Speaker 1: Love Island to some degree, we could understand that, given with some police officers get paid. But still it's okay. So this is where we are. Let me, we had impressions after the first episode. Let me just ask off the top, second episode and the books, just first impressions. I know we'll get into some stuff, but just reaction right off the top.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's getting good. The drama is building, and I'm just wondering aloud as I watched episode two, is kissing now like a directive? Are they telling the contestants the Islanders to kiss as often as possible?
00:02:56
Speaker 3: Seems like it, and my.
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Speaker 1: First impression is getting close. I said it to you several times throughout. I said, they're about to lose me, that this kissing stuff is too much. I don't know if they think it's hot or who. Maybe they can't control what the Islanders do, but they are setting them up in scenarios robes to encourage that.
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Speaker 2: You're choosing people with makeout sessions. That is a directive from the producers. They don't say the person's name aloud, they just start making out. And it got to the point where and people are starting different characters. I shouldn't say characters because they're playing themselves. But certain people are starting to grow on us a little more than others. But Kse, the nursing assistant at a nursing home, when some of the kissing was going on, he looked to his girl and said, I can't watch this now. It was a tense situation, but still I felt him in that moment.
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Speaker 1: It's awkward, it's too much. And the word that's being thrown around most, I suppose is cringey, it's MS. I don't know. Maybe I'm past whatever age to where I'm the proof.
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Speaker 3: No, our younger kids are saying the same thing.
00:04:08
Speaker 1: Oh but I just I do not understand this. And they're thrown together in such a way. We're going to talk about in cyclists do it now? The new feature now where the bombshells take two people into the bed and sleep with them that night. Well, I mean they're setting up very sexual situations that I don't know why they feel necessary a move mean to be edgier. Again, it's their choice. I'm not the target audience, but man, they're getting close to losing me.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's unnecessarily sexual and provocative when I think look maybe when you get more invested in a relationship and in a couple where you're rooting for them or you like them, it won't be so awful to watch them make out, but to see strangers awkwardly make out one after the other. I don't know anybody who finds that be a small segment who thinks that's hot. I think most people think that's gross.
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Speaker 1: Right next to each other. Okay, it's a decision, a conscious one they're making, and it continues, and it will continue, the doors and the surprises. Are you Are you liking this? I kind of not.
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Speaker 3: I think it's a cop out. It's you know what.
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Speaker 2: It seems like they're trying too hard to be cute, and I think just let it be what it is. It's a great concept. We love watching actual relationships, and not just romantic ones, but platonic and see how people figure things out in groups. All of it is incredibly from a social experiment standpoint, fascinating to watch. We don't need some of the gimmicky stuff that they've now added. I don't know why to make it they think more interesting. It is so fascinating in on its own right.
00:05:48
Speaker 1: I think it's been great and I guess they'll always say shows have to evolve, try new things. Maybe the stuff, the stuff won't come back. This is the one off. I don't know, but the drama, even of the doors, ends up making me feel bad because it ends up we've seen several people humiliated essentially with that's a good word.
00:06:07
Speaker 2: Yes, you open a door and it's empty on the other side because a person has literally ditched you.
00:06:12
Speaker 1: Because and you not even facing the person who has now hurt you. They're just gone.
00:06:18
Speaker 2: I don't and even the people who left who wanted to keep their options open, which by the way, is totally understandable after having just met someone twenty four hours before, even one of the contestants, and I believe it was Beatrice, Beatrice, I want to say her name right, but she even said I felt so bad because I thought when he opened the door and didn't see me there, I'd be able to come back and explain to him, hey, I like you.
00:06:40
Speaker 3: I still want to.
00:06:40
Speaker 2: Keep the door open, literally like figuratively excuse me for a potential romance. But I also wanted to see what else was out there and to make him understand so for him not to get any explanation, and for her not to be able to give one, she even felt bad about.
00:06:55
Speaker 3: And I do think it's unnecessarily cruel.
00:06:57
Speaker 1: It's reality show ghosting. You just got dumped. They just disappeared and no explanation why.
00:07:04
Speaker 3: And the world is watching and now you feel a fool.
00:07:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that stuff Robes is apparently playing out.
00:07:11
Speaker 3: And it does and it hasn't sat well with Kenzi.
00:07:13
Speaker 1: Okay, let's get the King for Let's get the King. Yeah, okay, did what did we see in episode one from Kensey and Folks One Room when she's the young lady from Kennesaw just graduate from nursing school. I believe in.
00:07:24
Speaker 2: Kenesaw, Georgia, and we know, I mean, oh my goodness, so many of my friends talk just like her, look like her, like she's someone who we know right, Like she's got that Southern charm. But she's very intense and immediately her eyes just everything about her it's she wants this so bad and you can feel it, and you're almost like, I'm in my mind begging her to pull back, save something for later. She's just putting it all out there and you just can see her setting herself up for disaster and to that point. Episode two opens with her having just seen that the door on the other side was empty, and her.
00:08:07
Speaker 3: Guy Zach, went to go see what else was out there.
00:08:09
Speaker 2: But she had been crying like she just ended a two year relationships and so that was what was really uncomfortable to watch.
00:08:19
Speaker 1: Its spiral from the moment that door opened, it spiraled for her the rest of the show.
00:08:24
Speaker 2: Yes, in fact, I actually have a quote that she said because she's so baffled as to why Zach would have not been on the other side of the door when he clearly stated you're not my type beforehand. But she said, I like how I look. I feel like I'm in love with myself. I just want to feel like that about someone else. It was kind of weird.
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Speaker 1: You know, And I got, that's so funny you and I wrote down the same quote. I got. I started with it at a different part when she said, I'm being beat down, but I know I'm attractive, I know how I look. That's how she started it. I'm being beat down, rote down twenty.
00:09:00
Speaker 2: And he just went to go see if maybe someone else might be a better fit.
00:09:07
Speaker 1: Which is the point of the show. Yes, but Robes rejection, rejection stings on all levels at any point. No, mch she had known this dude for how many hours? Even? Was it even ours?
00:09:22
Speaker 3: No, it was it was hours.
00:09:23
Speaker 2: But then it was so interesting to watch Kenzie have the conversation with Officer Fancy Pants Sean. The two of them were the ones who were left standing. They had chosen their partners and their partners had not chosen them. And Kenzie asked to Sean, were there warning signs?
00:09:40
Speaker 3: What do you mean signs? You would only you had just met hours? How could there?
00:09:45
Speaker 2: I was like, if she's talking about signs she missed? Also, he made a very clear one to her. He told her he had never dated a blonde before and that she wasn't his type. I don't That was him trying to be as kind as he could, kind of letting her know pretty early on. I don't think I'm that India.
00:10:03
Speaker 1: Okay, where is it, though? Roe, I'm trying to give this young lady some space. Man, I'm trying to and I'm trying to. This is where the only place you and I have talked about this plenty off microphone here and so you know I'm in your camp of what the hell young lady. I'm trying to put them now in this pressure cooker of a reality show to where I could be off this show tonight and be gone from Fiji and miss all these opportunities and might not be a superstar.
00:10:29
Speaker 3: Right, That's probably the source of her.
00:10:31
Speaker 1: Intensity, need something towards.
00:10:33
Speaker 2: It working against her though, to have that In fact, as we're still on the topic with Kenzy, can we talk about her Lyne in the Gazelle. She said that she wanted her man to be like a lion and her to be a gazelle, and that she would be chased and he was only chasing after her. And then she went on because Sean made her breakfast that morning because her guy was gone, and I guess he put the eggs in the shape.
00:10:54
Speaker 3: Of a heart. Yeah, she got so intensely giddy.
00:11:00
Speaker 1: She was happy, you're excited, but.
00:11:02
Speaker 3: In a cautionary way for men, cautionary like it.
00:11:06
Speaker 2: Almost looked like single white female or fatal attraction. It was like, next thing, you know, she's boiling a bunny. Like That's what it felt like. It was just there was an uncomfortable intensity even to her happiness.
00:11:18
Speaker 1: This is we don't know the young lady. Of course, we've only got two episodes that we've only gotten to know her. But if somebody told me she had boiled a bunny.
00:11:27
Speaker 3: You'd believe it.
00:11:30
Speaker 1: I don't think I'd be shocked there. This is not an indictment of her as a person. It's an observation of her behavior on the show right now, and from what we're seeing Robes she is the kindest middle ground way to put it is a lot.
00:11:50
Speaker 2: Yes, and you were even saying, Wow, they knew who they were casting, because look, I do think, yes, they don't need some of the gimmicks that they've already started to sprinkle throughout the show, because if cast well, you can just let things play off. And clearly I think it seems as though this will be an interesting cast that they've put together.
00:12:11
Speaker 1: You know, I thought about this. I'm not sure how it's going to go with this last ceremony, right, somebody's supposed to get kicked off.
00:12:19
Speaker 3: Yes, that'll be tonight.
00:12:21
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, of course that'll be tonight. I wonder will they make any adjustments and what I mean by that rogues if they notice or pay attention to Wow, everybody's talking about Kennedy.
00:12:32
Speaker 2: They don't want her to leave. I actually think having her leave will make the show more boring.
00:12:38
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of the next most interesting character. Wow, actually, who is the next most interesting character?
00:12:45
Speaker 3: Casey?
00:12:46
Speaker 2: Maybe from the nursing home like k Okay, I'm sorry, I like Casey. He's got a great smile and you know what he's not saying, what he's thinking. He's got a big old grin on himself a lot of times, and you're like, what's going on in that head? Also should note still amazing favorite cast member is the narrator. He has still been delivering some incredible funny one liners that are clever and like, Casey had like a crocheted looking tank and tank top, and we know he works as a nursing assistant at a nursing home. He just said, looks like one of his patients might have knitted him a gift before he left.
00:13:20
Speaker 3: I burst out laughing.
00:13:22
Speaker 1: But yet this dude is doing this in real time. Yes, he's seeing this video and reacting to what he's saying. I bet he is so good live.
00:13:30
Speaker 3: We got to get him on the show at some point.
00:13:32
Speaker 1: He is.
00:13:33
Speaker 2: He has been consistently our favorite character throughout and the Bombshells have certainly added some very funny conversations.
00:13:41
Speaker 3: We can get into some of these.
00:13:42
Speaker 2: So each of the Bombshells got to steal, as you mentioned, two people, and we got to watch them overnight in a weird ass trio. But the conversations that they had to try to get to know one another were hilariously entertaining.
00:13:56
Speaker 1: What you do, it's awkward, You're thrown into a room. I don't know. Rod is awkward if you're being filmed constantly and you know you're supposed to be entertaining and you want the audience to like you and you want endorsements later, and all this stuff is in their heads. And don't we know now there are people who train these people before they go on these shows and how to behave They all have media.
00:14:15
Speaker 2: Teams and all this, But at a certain point, you don't really have cameras on you. You are just you fall into the bubble that it is, and I do think ultimately your true self comes out.
00:14:26
Speaker 1: I asked the bonfire at the end. We know how that ended up being left And again they had to add kissing one more time. Why so, yes, they were the Bombshells had to pick one of the two people they were going to choose, and all you have to do is say their name, dude, but they said seal it with a kiss. So then we have to watch another makeout session in front of them. And then they're making out in front of the person they just.
00:14:50
Speaker 2: Rejected, correct, and the person they rejected on the couch too.
00:14:53
Speaker 1: Oh yes, when you get.
00:14:55
Speaker 2: Multiple rejections going on watching this makeout session, that part.
00:14:58
Speaker 1: Of it added to Actually one more thing. Do you like that they don't have the hosts come out and do the bondfi when they have them do it.
00:15:05
Speaker 2: Through No, I really think if Ariano Maddox is the hit that she is, and I understand it's a six week devotion of time in Fiji, but there are worse places in the world to get stuck. They can't get her to show up.
00:15:16
Speaker 1: Oh no, I'm not suggesting, no, no, no, no. I thought it was a strategic idea to sometimes have the drama. Oh no, I wasn't suggesting at all that she wasn't available.
00:15:25
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, because that's what I was thinking. That the reason why they're doing it is because that she's otherwise occupied and.
00:15:31
Speaker 1: That could be the case she had to go back and oh not at the very beginning. Seems strange just day two, so it seemed like they're doing that to add to some drum.
00:15:38
Speaker 2: They deliberately chose the people to read the directives from someone who it would be awkward coming from.
00:15:44
Speaker 1: Yes, so that's what happened at the end. So this is what led to the Kinsey moment. Yes at the end.
00:15:50
Speaker 3: Okay, So.
00:15:54
Speaker 2: Kenzie and Sean are both brought up because they're now single and vulnerable. So it's very obvious that tonight one of those two is going home, Kenzie or Sean. So all of a sudden at the end, they have Zach, who did not show up, did not show up on the other side of the door for Kenzie, whoted her who she's been crying about for twenty four hours. He had to read to Kenzie that she is now single and vulnerable. So she then decides to blow a kiss to him and say thank you as sarcastically as she possibly can, and he kind of looked at his new girl baffled, and looked back at Kenzie and.
00:16:31
Speaker 3: Said you're welcome, very very quietly, and then.
00:16:35
Speaker 2: She just gave him the biggest eat shit look and the episode ended.
00:16:40
Speaker 1: Of all the stuff Kinsey did, this was one I would give her. Take that one sus to And they set her up, of course with the show, and it was probably a brilliant thing to do. Have the person that rejected you read the text just.
00:16:52
Speaker 2: For the extra rub. You're now vulnerable because I said no.
00:16:57
Speaker 1: Because I told you all right. But stay here, folks, we're actually gonna pick up with that point robes And I always always say some of these reality shows, reality dating shows, and yes, in particular Love Island sexy as they are as fun as it all is, there are real relationship questions and issues that come up. Stay here, there are a couple in particular we should all pay attention to.
00:17:31
Speaker 2: Welcome back everyone to our Love Island episode. We're gonna be I think, are we fully committing or we're gonna do our best? I know you hate that to basically give you our synopsis or our thoughts on the episodes. They just there are so many. They are putting up episodes of Love Island's USA season eight every single night except for Wednesdays. I think that's pretty awesome. But you know what, they're smart. They know once you get hooked. You want more, you want more, and you're gonna keep tuning in. This is kind of a brilliant strategy for them that has worked and keeps us watching and more importantly, talking headlines are made every day.
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Speaker 1: Okay, well that's huge. Firsture headlines can you have and just say they kissed again? There's the Brazilian tongue. Once more people.
00:18:20
Speaker 2: Are gonna start getting dumped. There's gonna be shocking moments.
00:18:23
Speaker 1: You know, yes, I actually asked you this in the seasons past. I'm not sure if I paid that close attention early on. Maybe that's what it is. They have to get past this little stage and when real relationships form, I'm all in you start.
00:18:35
Speaker 3: Yes, it's much like you start investing.
00:18:37
Speaker 1: You know.
00:18:37
Speaker 2: They even say when you're watching a scripted series it takes a couple episodes to really get into it. But once you're invested in each of these people, you care what happens, you care how they react, you care who they hook up with, you care who they end up with.
00:18:51
Speaker 3: So you get invested.
00:18:53
Speaker 1: Okay, then I will buy into that. So the question this comes up all the time, and we saw it play out on episode two. He was honest with her that she Kinsey was not his type. He said it as nicely as he could. I thought I did too. Okay. Should he have been honest with her? No, he should not have been.
00:19:18
Speaker 2: No, he shouldn't have immediately told her I've never dated a blonde before. I typically only like darker features. That just hurts. That's nothing she can change. That's nothing that she can do anything about. And to tell her that was not the right way to say, Hey, I don't know that we're a good fit. He could have absolutely said something like that to her versus basically going.
00:19:40
Speaker 3: Right after her looks immediately you want.
00:19:43
Speaker 2: To talk about, well, if you could have just said, like, hey, I'm feeling friend vibes with you. I think you're an amazing girl, but I just want to put it out right now, like just but don't go straight for her looks. He told her that she wasn't his type based on her looks immediately without really getting to know her. That is tough to hear. That'll throw most women in a tizzy. That's a tough thing to hear. In Kenzie's defense, that's a hard hit right off the bat, and knowing that everyone in America just heard him say that to you, because what she hears is you're not attractive, You're not beautiful.
00:20:17
Speaker 3: I don't think you're hot.
00:20:20
Speaker 1: Man. You just said two fellas. Don't be honest with.
00:20:26
Speaker 3: Us, not about certain things. Don't tell us. Don't be honest with us when it comes.
00:20:31
Speaker 2: If it's the way I look turned you off, you don't need to tell someone.
00:20:35
Speaker 1: Don't be honest with He didn't say turn me off. Don't be honest with us.
00:20:39
Speaker 3: Don't tell us you don't like how we look.
00:20:41
Speaker 1: Don't be honest that I'm not your type. That's different from I don't like how you look.
00:20:46
Speaker 2: I just think that's exactly how it's interpreted and it's how it was intended.
00:20:51
Speaker 1: Okay, so that is very tricky for men. How what is a guy to do? You asked for someone to be honest with you, but only for so much, only for these and if it's about this thing, only go this far. Don't go for the look. Didn't go for anything, but he did, No, he didn't. This is where I will take issue ropes. They put them together, open a door, kiss the stranger on the other side, and you want to talk to me that I'm supposed to know her personality. This whole thing is about looks, an attraction and sex. I ain't got time for this. He could have been much meaner. I thought he could have talked to her. I don't because I do. He saw someone I could get kicked off tonight. Why am I spending time with someone I am not vibing with or not attracted to me.
00:21:36
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with you at all that you should do in these shows exactly what you want to do in terms of what's best for you. But I also think that men, probably when giving a reason for not wanting to go on that second date, shouldn't reference looks in any way.
00:21:51
Speaker 1: Okay, then you're taking issue with a guy doing it outside of the villa.
00:21:56
Speaker 3: I just think if you don't want a girl to be crushed, just.
00:22:00
Speaker 2: Don't bring up her looks. I think we got friend vibes. That's all I can tell you is I got friend vibes with you.
00:22:05
Speaker 1: Your girl. The bombshell when talking to Bryce, what do you go for? And she listed everything in the world.
00:22:15
Speaker 3: He's not okay, I have that written down and I agree.
00:22:18
Speaker 1: Zach explained to Kinsey. Did he not? Yes?
00:22:22
Speaker 2: But I would just say that Bryce obviously has a much better self esteem.
00:22:29
Speaker 1: I guess, wait, dear lady, so now the man needs to measure the woman's self esteem.
00:22:35
Speaker 3: No, I think most women.
00:22:36
Speaker 2: I think most women would be offended if you said, the reason why we're not going to have a second date is because of the way you look.
00:22:43
Speaker 1: Now ask this for me. Would most women respond the way Kinsey has?
00:22:49
Speaker 3: Yes?
00:22:50
Speaker 1: Well, no ring and that's now it's something unique to Kinsey.
00:22:55
Speaker 3: Well, her outward reaction was a lot.
00:23:00
Speaker 2: I do think everyone would feel like if someone said that to me, I would absolutely feel crushed inside, but my pride probably wouldn't let me say it out loud.
00:23:09
Speaker 1: Ask what type of person do you usually date? And that answer is a description that might not be what you are. Where are we finding fault in that response?
00:23:26
Speaker 2: I'm not saying as it's wrong. I'm saying it will be received offensively. That's what I'm saying.
00:23:36
Speaker 1: And there it is. So this is the thing. I guess we need to get that out. Don't be honest, fellas, No, I'm kidding, that's just that obviously, I know when it comes to looks.
00:23:45
Speaker 2: When it comes to looks, maybe just recognize that that's a real soft spot for most women.
00:23:51
Speaker 3: It's for most women, And I don't know.
00:23:53
Speaker 2: I don't think that men feel that vulnerable about their looks in the same way women do. Women sometimes feel like that's their only said, that's their only value. Unfortunately, a lot of women do feel like that. I don't think most men feel like that, and so I think that is why there is a difference when we see Bryce actually kind of laugh off the fact that she said, basically when he said what your type, and she said, I like dark features and he's blonde with blue eyes. So obviously it was a very similar situation that we saw with Kenzie and Zach. But Bryce is a hot model who just let that roll right off his back.
00:24:30
Speaker 1: Again. I'll take care as you were. But it's just this idea now of I don't know, because it might be insulting coming from man, right, this idea that we're telling women not to accept an honest answer, like, well.
00:24:46
Speaker 2: I don't think we're telling women not. I'm just saying there's something to be consider.
00:24:50
Speaker 1: You're telling miss You have said very clearly in this episode fellas, don't do it.
00:24:54
Speaker 2: So don't don't don't use a woman's looks as the reason why you're not going on another day.
00:24:58
Speaker 1: That is not what I'm saying here.
00:25:01
Speaker 3: And even if it's like I'm saying, well, are.
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