June 22, 2026
Love Island (EP 17): Casa Amor Puts Every Single Boy In The Dog House
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RSS Feed Just when the Islanders least expect it, ‘Love Island’ producers threw in the Casa Amor twist into the villa. And while it’s always fun to see how the couples handle the temptations of a new full set of potential islanders, this was the most sexual, grotesque introduction of contestants we have ever witnessed in the franchise. Add the disgusting reaction by most of the men to the accompanying reaction from the women who were watching it all unfold live from the villa, and you have a completely changed competition with all of the couples seemingly upended. The girls went from shocked, to sad, to outraged, to ready to meet the 12 men who are headed their way to play.
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Speaker 1: Hey that folks.
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Speaker 2: It is Monday, June twenty second, and Love Island season eight, episode seventeen is in the books now and it might have been the grossest episode yet. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Rold was given the producers lots of credit yesterday out said oh it's back and I'm enjoying it. Back to the relationship issues, and they went back. They went way way back.
00:00:26
Speaker 3: Yeah. Actually this was disgusting from start to finish, which.
00:00:31
Speaker 2: Kind of was Man, I'm trying not to be approved here. Somebody's enjoying this, right.
00:00:37
Speaker 3: Yes, Look, we love the drama, we love the relationship lessons, we love watching egos, we love learning about ourselves when we see folks trying to be vulnerable and trying to connect and then getting feelings. It's all amazing to watch the social experiment play out. However, look, you can have it be hot and sexy and fun, and I don't think for big prudes when it comes to that kind of thing. But this is getting to be downright, yes, disgusting. There is no other way to put it.
00:01:08
Speaker 2: I'm trying to find a way, okay, And there is a difference the proof is not in the ratings right. Just because people are watching doesn't mean they're enjoying this. And there are some episodes ropes, and last night was one of them that is just it's not just a matter of uncomfortable.
00:01:23
Speaker 1: I don't want to watch.
00:01:25
Speaker 3: I don't want to see that, Yes, because when you actually like to actually have to see this unbelievable makeout session, soft porn, simulating sex, things that I can't imagine letting anyone see, like me in certain positions with a person I haven't even been introduced to yet, knowing the world is watching, my parents are watching, my potential bosses are.
00:01:52
Speaker 4: Watching, like all of that.
00:01:53
Speaker 3: Like, I cannot get my head around how they're all totally comfortable basically being almost naked, grinding up and swapping spit with people they haven't met.
00:02:04
Speaker 4: It's beyond strange to me.
00:02:08
Speaker 2: I guess last night for certain reasons. And if you haven't seen, everybody's aware. If you're listening at this point, Costant More, the Consta More episode, Enrold, you can you just succinctly explain what this all means when we say it's the Costa More episode.
00:02:21
Speaker 3: Yes, And I think we were all anticipating this week because this is when things really get shaken up, and we know that the boys and we just don't know when or how.
00:02:29
Speaker 4: So it was.
00:02:30
Speaker 3: It was a fun little surprise where we all thought the girls were going to be sexy dancing on top of their guys, and when they get all dulled up and dressed up, all of a sudden, the boys get a text as they're about to head out to realize that they're going and packing their bags and heading off to Cossa More for a couple of days where they're going to get a brand new set of bombshells to potentially actually recouple with and upend their current relationship, and everybody gets excited.
00:02:58
Speaker 2: They put this right pretty much smack to have in the middle of the seasons, and it always stirs things up. So okay, fine, this is happening last night, so robes. I guess a part that made this even worse is because it went back kind of to the beginning to where everybody they're strangers. Six new women came in and these six guys robes and this wasn't we call them makeout sessions, And that's that's wrong to call them that. I agree These folks are doing everything short of penetration. And there are times that these guys they literally last night had their head in between the legs of a woman they just met, and they're going from person to person. These women are robes. These are strip shows. These were stripper moves. Fine, I'm not impressive, but robes. I saw full on lap dances and strip teas. And the guys were touching these women in a way that is inappropriate in any other setting. And so we're watching what is not normal being normal normal setting that here it. Yes, I guess roles, this is just what they do, but this is come on, Love Island, you know what you're doing. You got a huge record breaking hit. So I clearly I don't know what I'm talking about, but.
00:04:15
Speaker 4: It's just I think, look it just they could.
00:04:17
Speaker 3: Just dial it back by fifty percent and it would still be sexy and steamy. They'd still get the same results from the women. Which this was the new twist, never seen this before. The women are shocked and surprised with basically a live feed from cosa Amore and they are watching these guys who they have feelings for, who some of them have just done some pretty significant sexual acts with who they think they're going to be coupled up with, and maybe that their relationship will be tested at Casamore. Oh no, They're seeing women basically do everything but have sex with their guys, and the reaction from the men was just as disgusting as the sexual acts themselves.
00:04:59
Speaker 2: This was a bad episode for everybody, maybe except for the women at the villa. This was a bad episode I think for every single one of the guys, except for maybe Caleb.
00:05:11
Speaker 1: Caleb, knock yourself out. You've got no girl, you.
00:05:13
Speaker 4: Know what, that's a good points.
00:05:16
Speaker 3: He's not doing something to a woman left behind just shocked and hurt and wounded by not just the fact that he's being kissed by another woman, because you could say, well, that's not his fault, that's part of the game, but his giddiness and unbridled childlike excitement about the idea. It's like they were salivating. I don't even know, like just I don't even know how to describe their demban or how would you describe it childish.
00:05:50
Speaker 2: It was like a little boy who just saw booties for the first time.
00:05:55
Speaker 4: Yeah, did you say boobies?
00:05:56
Speaker 1: Yes?
00:05:56
Speaker 2: Yes, But I'm trying to put in that it was I've been around about roes Is. This was very immature, not even locker room type behavior. This was like junior high locker room type behavior.
00:06:11
Speaker 3: It was.
00:06:12
Speaker 2: It was odd to see and every single one of them we were fellas back and off a little bit.
00:06:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like they were way too excited, and it was yeah, exactly. And look, if I was one of the women coupled up with one of those guys, I don't look.
00:06:27
Speaker 4: I'm sure there was a.
00:06:28
Speaker 3: Feeling of anger and betrayal, but mostly I would have just been icked out, engrossed out by the juvenile, ridiculous behavior. I would be turned off so much, not because I was personally offended, but just by their behaviors.
00:06:44
Speaker 2: Before the women ever touched any one of the guys. Yes, I think every single one of their girls back at the villa had a legitimate cost to say, I don't want to be with that guy.
00:06:55
Speaker 3: And you know what, they all had the exact same look on their It was it was disgusted, confusion and it and then there was pain.
00:07:07
Speaker 4: On Kata's face for sure.
00:07:08
Speaker 3: She actually cried at one point, Melanie, she was almost stonefaced, to the point where I think she could not believe what she was seeing.
00:07:17
Speaker 5: No, she was doing plotting her revenge that came in. Not Yeah, she looked determined, Well this was going on, and look, we all looked at this and said, oh wow, we see what they're doing. We'd never seen obviously in real time. Later on, they've shown.
00:07:31
Speaker 3: Clips to the girls about what their guys were doing in Castlemore. I've never seen it happen where they actually the night of are watching a live feed. But what this did was you nailed this before the men were brought onto the villa, because of course they're going to get their temptation as well, but they might have been all in the fields and kind of in love and less willing to and they've seen this happen in prior episodes.
00:07:54
Speaker 4: The guys go a little.
00:07:55
Speaker 3: Crazy and the girls are more reserved and are trying to preserve the relationship there are already invested in by not actually doing anything with the guys. So it's a little less spicy, a little less less salacious back with the girls because they are a lot of them, and I know I'm generalizing, but most in other seasons we've seen the women hold back because they really want to make the relationship work. Now you got a bunch of women who watched every single one of their men disgustingly salivate and rejoice in another woman's company and say things like bye bye Kenzie, like literally laughing at the woman they're currently in a couple with as if she is nothing.
00:08:37
Speaker 4: So what does that do? Piss off all the girls who.
00:08:40
Speaker 3: Are now going to have revenge relationships?
00:08:44
Speaker 1: Do you like this element?
00:08:47
Speaker 4: I was?
00:08:48
Speaker 3: I know I don't because now you're motivated by anger instead of just saying I want to explore and see if anyone else catches my interest and actually see what happens and then actually make a decision not based or fueled by anger and betrayal and hurt, but actually just fueled by curiosity and is this guy someone I'd like to pursue more than the couple I'm in. This was very manufactured and it was real. That anger was real, but it was manufactured by producers.
00:09:22
Speaker 2: I didn't like how the women were set up for. They were set up to put to go through pain, right, and they almost what would they call this if a police officer did this to you? Right, it's a setup like you They were almost framed in a way by the producers for crime they probably wouldn't have committed under different circumstances.
00:09:45
Speaker 3: Yes, And because I do think a lot of these women, Kata especially and Melanie especially have I absolutely believe have genue win feelings for Zach and for Sincere, and they both spoken about at least definitely Melanie about wanting to have a relationship outside of the villa.
00:10:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really don't like this element. Not first of all, it added a disgusting element. But you when you intentionally cause pain, right they intentionally called.
00:10:14
Speaker 3: You always talk about this in this particular franchise that they do actually set up situations where they know they are causing pain to a contestant, emotional pain.
00:10:24
Speaker 1: And again you.
00:10:25
Speaker 2: Could obviously the Fellas shouldn't behave that way where the cameras where they're not and it does. You could look at that and say, see, aha, now you find out how they would behave behind the.
00:10:34
Speaker 4: Scenes exactly exactly.
00:10:37
Speaker 2: That that is fair, but Rose, that's very difficult to like they could have edited it later and not let them see it live.
00:10:45
Speaker 4: Well, that's usually what they do.
00:10:47
Speaker 2: And there's a way to frame it with some kind of kind and again, I'm not taking up. I think the guys had a very bad show yesterday and I think it's going to rove.
00:10:56
Speaker 1: This turned me off to some of the guys.
00:10:58
Speaker 3: I like, yeah, because I was just gonna ask you other than Corbyn, who's not in a relationship or sorry Caleb, Caleb is not in a relationship with anyone. So technically you could say he didn't do anything wrong, and I actually think he was.
00:11:11
Speaker 4: No, he did some gross things. I'm just remembering now.
00:11:14
Speaker 3: He was like legs up, ladies when he came in, like that was really uncomfortable to watch, like beyond uncomfortable to watch. But did any I was gonna ask you, did any guy act in any way like he had any concern about the woman on who he left behind?
00:11:30
Speaker 2: Not a little bit. I'm trying to think. I think Bryce and Sincere might be the close but since Weir.
00:11:38
Speaker 3: Was looking at these women like he wanted like they were pieces of meat.
00:11:42
Speaker 1: How was he touching And I can't remember how he was.
00:11:45
Speaker 4: Touching, but it was, Oh it was the look after they left it.
00:11:48
Speaker 3: I'm telling you that was almost worse for me, Like the look on his face said everything they did.
00:11:55
Speaker 1: They dangled me.
00:11:56
Speaker 4: Casey was bad.
00:11:58
Speaker 1: Casey was awful.
00:11:59
Speaker 2: Casey, see, he had built up so much good will with me, and that was my guy. It's amazing how this show works. Casey just I would pull him to the side and have a conversation. That was a bad look and it kind of exposed what some maybe were suggesting about him.
00:12:14
Speaker 1: That man, he's just putting on. It's just a fake.
00:12:16
Speaker 2: And but Robes, he was the worst behaving out of everyone there. It was such an immature like wow, buddies, like smacking a woman's way, it just complete strip club behavior.
00:12:30
Speaker 3: And after he smacked her butt and she didn't want him to touch her anymore, they like he and Caleb are sorry Corbin did this like finger thing?
00:12:40
Speaker 4: Like yeah, and the.
00:12:41
Speaker 3: Girls, the girls saw it. All the girls saw them celebrating. The girl saw them salivating. The girls saw them laughing and dismissing them. And yeah, I actually felt really bad for them. It felt so mean.
00:12:55
Speaker 1: It was mean.
00:12:56
Speaker 2: But baby, it was mean on I mean, you supposed to just say, hey, if the guys didn't behave that, no problem. I still the way it was set up, I mean, what are you supposed to do? I mean, put them in there and just let them say hello, introduce yourselves.
00:13:09
Speaker 4: Just that's what they used to do.
00:13:11
Speaker 3: They used to come in and mingle, or maybe they'd do a little bit of a lap dance, but it wasn't like that. I have never And the worst part is, once you saw one girl do it, you're like, oh my god, we're gonna have to watch all six of them do that. And then we had to watch the men come out and do their routine and do it all to them. We saw twelve disgusting displays of simulated sex.
00:13:37
Speaker 2: There's no other way to put it. So what did we didn't talk about yet? What did you make of? Yes, the bombshells that came in we got.
00:13:46
Speaker 1: I don't know who stands out.
00:13:47
Speaker 2: Amora Parmita, personal trainer from San Antonio. I can't remember. Somebody likes her a lot. I can't remember which guy was. There's Jaden's white lawn girl, recent grab from Arizona State, but she's from California originally Tiera sister. She's a nanny from La Sydney, twenty five year old medical assistant. And then that I'm not mentioned at the time. Did I mention Amra? Yeah, she's twenty one from Miami, lives in Atlanta. And then Alana. We have an episode previously on Alana twenty one year old. But robe she is probably going to be talked about. Well, she was talked about a little bit because of what happened in this episode, what she did, and then she's talked about afterward as well.
00:14:26
Speaker 1: She's going to be a part of the conversation.
00:14:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's the one who was in the Angel Wings. Twenty one years old student from Miami. She lives in La now she goes to usc correct she's in film school. But yes, please check out our previous episode because this may be the first and last time you see her on the show, because she is now embroiled in a massive controversy where there are videos surfacing now of her reportedly using the N word. And we say reportedly because the videos haven't been verified, but it very much looks like it's irrefutable that she did take part in dropping the.
00:15:00
Speaker 2: But on a happy note from Alana, she did give us Robes one of the funnier moments of the evening last night that she was trying to explain to one of the other Bomb shows that she is in film school.
00:15:13
Speaker 3: That was the lighter one of the lighter moments. They were all kind of getting to know each other, the girls, and she was like, I'm in film school. And the other I don't even remember which one it was Parmida, She's like, what are you studying? She looked at her and she goes, I'm in film school. She's like, but what are you studying? And we were laughing so hard I couldn't stop.
00:15:33
Speaker 1: It was good. It was a lighter moment.
00:15:34
Speaker 2: Things happened that will happened to be absolutely hilarious, but another hilarious moment, and they told us this was going to happen.
00:15:42
Speaker 1: The narrator in right.
00:15:45
Speaker 2: He even said in the moment, just wait, everybody is going to start googling French fries and what that means, because that came up during the episode. So sure enough, this morning, Robes got and what are French fries? Love Island was trending all over the place. Stay here, we'll explain why this is the new code word for this season season and why it's just gross.
00:16:22
Speaker 3: Welcome back everyone to this Love Island edition of Amy and TJ. We are talking about episode seventeen, and I think so far this was the most disgusting episode we have seen todate, and the bar was already pretty damn high. So we told you, and I'm sure you watched. You saw what happened when the Fellas went to Casa Amore. But before they even got to Casa Amore, the episode started off all sloppy and sticky basically.
00:16:48
Speaker 4: So yeah, it shows, or.
00:16:50
Speaker 3: At least begins with Trinity asking, Hey, which one of you is?
00:16:54
Speaker 4: Were doing French fries? French fries?
00:16:57
Speaker 3: And then she said it was too wet for it to just be kissing, and Kenzie immediately starts giggling, and she's so happy to let everyone know she's the culprit who was doing French fries. So did you know what French fries was or what that code word could mean? I was trying to figure it out.
00:17:16
Speaker 2: No, they were kind of elude. I was trying to piece together. But it was a side of something.
00:17:21
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, so apparently French fries is Season Aid's eights code for hand or mouth pleasure. So the idea is it's not a full meal, it's just a side of fries.
00:17:35
Speaker 4: It's just a snack, so to speak.
00:17:38
Speaker 3: So yes, that is when Kenzie said I was definitely getting some French fries feeling good.
00:17:45
Speaker 2: And we had to hear and see it because they do show the video from them in bed at night, right the night vision video or whatever. And you hear this audio and you see things moving rapidly under their covers robes. Okay, I mean, somebody think that's cool, that's hot, that's a drama. It's just you're you're actually you're actually playing the audio of a sex act. Yeah, you're actually showing it. The covers are on. I just I know it's not a show for kids ropes. I just there's some things or I'm blown away.
00:18:20
Speaker 3: But you know, kids everywhere, I don't. I can only imagine probably as young as elementary school are watching this stuff on their phones on their.
00:18:29
Speaker 4: Tablets, and everyone's talking.
00:18:31
Speaker 3: About it, and I just look, it's just wow. I can't imagine. I mean, these and these are young adults. They're adults, but some of them are as young as twenty one.
00:18:49
Speaker 1: It's wild andes.
00:18:50
Speaker 2: Maybe I should we should put in keep it in the context of it being a show, and this is these are now performers, and these are now cast members of a show, and they are they're performing based on what the producers want them to do, and this is not real life, and there's another way look at it, Robes. Yes, they're twenty twenty one, twenty three, twenty four. Shouldn't maybe swap and spit, knock yourselves out, do everything you want, live a life. Maybe that's okay and should be and it all is okay.
00:19:18
Speaker 1: It's just okay. It's fine to say we don't like it.
00:19:22
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I love so many parts of the show, but I just hate how they have just ramped up the sexual part of the show. But okay, I mean still watching because look, I at this point, look and we should mention it ended the show or the Yeah, the episode ended yesterday with now the women have twelve men coming in, so there are six of them, correct, So there are two men for every woman.
00:19:50
Speaker 4: Basically, so to speak.
00:19:51
Speaker 3: So they're giving them double the pleasure. And they were screaming we want the men. I mean they they went from being shocked to being sad, to being angry to being vengeful.
00:20:03
Speaker 4: We saw that arc of those.
00:20:06
Speaker 3: Four emotions take place over the hour plus episode, and those girls are ready to go.
00:20:16
Speaker 2: Okay, it's just not I don't know, I'm not looking forward to that. It's not fun. It's not nobody's getting to know somebody or making some new connection. As they keep saying, the women just want to jump the bones of everybody that comes in to get back at the men and feel better.
00:20:32
Speaker 1: Does this mean they're.
00:20:33
Speaker 2: Going to have and you remind me, Rope, I don't remember what usually goes down after casa or do couples survive?
00:20:39
Speaker 4: Yes, a lot of them do, and a lot of them will.
00:20:42
Speaker 3: It's never been like this in terms of being this actually charged, but oftentimes and look, the women have never seen anything live like that. They've seen little blurbs and little exerts. But we've seen the guys outside of kissing challenges because they always say it doesn't count if it's a challenge or in this greet here it's but the way they are reacting still matters. And so I don't know with the way each of these men has reacted or how they reacted, I don't know if there's a way to go back. I've not seen collectively all the guys behave like this. I've seen some guys behave like that, but other guys be more reserved because they do want to stay in their relationship. So it's gonna be very interesting to see if there is any couple who can survive what we saw last night. And we still have yet to see what the girls are going to do. So, I mean, if there's one, do you think there's one couple? Because Kaita and Zach were kind of the strong ones and leading into this, they were having a rough go of it.
00:21:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, that Zach is jealous y'all have been telling me for a while. Zach was growing on me.
00:21:43
Speaker 1: I was like, and I was digging Zach.
00:21:45
Speaker 2: Zach is a He's a jealous guy, which is okay, but it's how he's going about there is is it even passive aggressive?
00:21:54
Speaker 3: He's passive aggressive and he's childlike because if he was jealous, he could say, Babe, what she wanted him to say was let's be closed off, then let's it be just the two.
00:22:05
Speaker 4: Of us, but he wouldn't.
00:22:06
Speaker 3: He kept saying I'm open and then he's like, well, She's like, I'm gonna stay open too. She insisted on staying open just to have a chat with Caleb. She was like to her girls, I'm not even attracted to him, but he can't say he's open and then get mad at me or get jealous because I'm just saying I'm open to a chat another chat with someone, and she's like, he can say I'd like to be closed off with you, and if that's what he wants, he can't have his cake and eat it too. He can't say I don't want you to talk to anyone, but I also want to remain open. So I don't know what game he's playing, but he wanted her to be his, but he also wanted to keep his door open.
00:22:42
Speaker 2: I think this episode might have been the end for Zach and Casey. I say these, I agree there's something they have to do, something major to be redemptive. But Robes this for anybody watching, you're completely turned off to these two guys. Yes, the kiss, singing, even the hands and a lot of stuff. It's just how they behaved in such a bizarrely giddy way about a new woman coming into the building.
00:23:09
Speaker 1: It was just it was odd, and they were.
00:23:12
Speaker 3: Feeding off of each other in all the wrong ways. Do you think that could have been a part of it the group mentality?
00:23:19
Speaker 4: Individually?
00:23:19
Speaker 3: Would they all have done this or was it just a collective emotion that just I mean they they were. We were looking at them as they were getting so excited to pack their backs. It was it was I was embarrassed for them. I'm like, calm down something.
00:23:34
Speaker 2: It could be fun and silly and is a part of a show, but it was there they really acted like they've never seen a woman in bikini or whatever before.
00:23:42
Speaker 1: They act that it was strange.
00:23:44
Speaker 2: Behavior that turns you on that any woman, would you see your man behave like that? You are not gonna be attractive.
00:23:52
Speaker 4: You can't unsee it, you can't.
00:23:54
Speaker 2: I mean, look, women know, married whatever. Sometimes you gotta go to a strip club. You might not like it, you might not want to see it, you know kind of what happens. But if you had to see a guy yelling like a little boy, game over, it's just a bad look and romes do they really I don't know anything. We don't know anything about these women yet. All we know is about them physically. But do they usually send how about this the crop of women that come in initially on the same level as the people they send into Kasoa more?
00:24:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, I it look, it could be the way they're cast and the conditions in which they enter, but it always appears as if the costa of war girls are like the temptresses, So they just are regarded differently, they appear different.
00:24:41
Speaker 1: That's what I felt in this episode completely though.
00:24:44
Speaker 2: There are a couple of women, and I applaud you for the moves, but the stripper material. Yes, some of the moves they were pulling off were if they look like professionals.
00:24:55
Speaker 1: That is not a knock. This is an observation. So it did.
00:24:59
Speaker 2: Robes one came in. It didn't feel like a high how you do? Oh yeah, my god. After all the making out, then they introduced themselves.
00:25:06
Speaker 4: That was so weird.
00:25:07
Speaker 3: Weird after they like literally almost had sex with each other without knowing each other's names. Then they actually walked like through a line, shaking each other's hands, giving each other's names to one another.
00:25:20
Speaker 4: That was so bizarre, like.
00:25:21
Speaker 1: A rope line. There was going through high I'm hi.
00:25:24
Speaker 4: I'm kse, nice to meet you. What is happening? You all just almost had a baby together. I don't even know how.
00:25:32
Speaker 3: Now you're introducing each other's names to one another.
00:25:35
Speaker 4: It was crazy.
00:25:37
Speaker 2: So that's what it didn't seem fair either that they do a seductious They didn't send didn't seem like an option in there to get to know or to me, to get to know these they sent people in. It had to be on the questionnaire can you do this move? You do your dance robes?
00:25:53
Speaker 4: They were how are your pole dancing moves?
00:25:56
Speaker 3: I mean they probably went to pole dancing classes before they were preparing to be on the show. I'm actually curious, and everyone can laugh at me, but what would you do if you had a beautiful dropped it? And these women are all gorgeous, But a gorgeous woman who actually was a little bit less sexy, a little bit more just like fun and flirty and not as over the top, would that stand out and maybe even set her apart. Like I feel sad that these girls feel like they almost sexually and the men too, have to one up each other. I mean, oh, we didn't even talk about Bryce trying to be sexy.
00:26:30
Speaker 4: That was some of the funny.
00:26:31
Speaker 3: Actually, that was the comedic relief that I needed from all of the over sexualized moves that people were actually a little too good at. It made me a little concerned. Actually, there was something even sweet about the fact that he is incredibly unsexy and not a great and.
00:26:45
Speaker 4: Goofy goof and it made it. It was like I was like, oh, thank god, someone isn't like a polished pole dancer.
00:26:51
Speaker 3: I appreciated that, and not like I really feel like some of these guys might be exotic dancers to earn some extra money on the side. That's I was like disturbed. Do you practice this in the mirror? How do you get good at that?
00:27:04
Speaker 1: Because they are really good.
00:27:07
Speaker 2: Good, but yeah, I just I don't know. It didn't seem fair. They sty're sending in And this is why I think Zach is done. You got Kada bruh, Yeah, like people like Kida. Yeah, and everybody looks at Kata. You've said several times some body is banging. Oh we know a good friend of analysis reminds us of her. They I mean, she has she's grown on everybody, and we're kind of rooting for her and kind of see Zach along the way not quite doing her right. And then he goes over here and does this. The America hates him probably right now.
00:27:41
Speaker 3: Oh yes, because people love Kada, they love a Naya, they love trinity, and these are women who are gorgeous, have banging bodies, but also have cute, spunky personalities. And look, we don't know these other women yet, so it's not fair maybe to say they don't have the same but.
00:27:59
Speaker 4: It's just I don't know this.
00:28:02
Speaker 3: They set us up to be rooting for certain people and rooting against others, and right now the men are all in the doghouse.
00:28:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, and none of the I haven't seen. I mean, the women along the way have had issues here, didn't handle this approachably, said the wrong thing, backstabbing, little stuff. They've had nothing on the level that would turn America collectively off to them.
00:28:24
Speaker 3: No, they're like, their hearts are in the right places, and right now their hearts are wounded, so they probably will get a pass for any bad behavior they may. They may actually begin tonight because they're angry.
00:28:38
Speaker 4: And I think every woman understands. You see your man do that? Watch me?
00:28:42
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think there's anything they could do that we would go she shouldn't have done that, because now we're all thinking, well, I understand.
00:28:49
Speaker 3: Exactly, Like they actually kind of have a license to do or say whatever they want after what they witness.
00:28:56
Speaker 4: Now I do. I am curious, how do you think the guys are going to react?
00:29:00
Speaker 3: When they find out that the girls saw everything live as it was happening and heard everything, they was a guy's reaction.
00:29:08
Speaker 1: They will try to.
00:29:11
Speaker 4: Explain they were exploring.
00:29:14
Speaker 2: It was a setup, right, we were exploited in a situation. It was just a game. We were going along with it.
00:29:20
Speaker 4: Do you agree? Do you think that that's a fair justification for their actions?
00:29:23
Speaker 1: It's toll same.
00:29:25
Speaker 2: Even the behavior doing again my big turn off, like why are you all jumping up and down like idiots? Yes, a few women coming in the building. Yes she's attractive, fine, but.
00:29:36
Speaker 3: The grabbing of asses like that was wild to me. Like, if you look, you can still have fun. This is the game, have a girl do a lap dance on you, but you can still be respectful.
00:29:46
Speaker 4: Most of those guys were not respectful.
00:29:49
Speaker 1: That is amazing. Respectful at the strip club is I'm.
00:29:51
Speaker 3: Only saying that because they knew they're well, they didn't know their girls were watching, but they knew America was watching, and they had to think that maybe they would be this video would be played back to their girls.
00:30:00
Speaker 1: Point so now it's not just childish, it's stupid.
00:30:06
Speaker 4: What good comes out of it?
00:30:08
Speaker 2: A woman's ass the country sees that you need the country to vote for you.
00:30:12
Speaker 3: You are now going to be labeled like an immature dufest dog.
00:30:18
Speaker 2: And they all kind of looked it and they deserve it. At this point, there is no defense. I got nothing. Wow, they playing the game, being silly, being lose. Hey, it's just fun, don't sweat it. It's not that deep. Haven't known these girls that long over at the Casa Villa or the Villa.
00:30:32
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know.
00:30:33
Speaker 2: Maybe somebody could say, you all just calm down, it's not that serious. It's just a stupid streaming show, or some sexy people are making.
00:30:39
Speaker 3: Out, possibly, but I think it's a little more than that. And look, they're all the trending topics right here. If you go on to X it's all Love Island. Everybody is watching and weighing in, and we will see what happens tonight. There's a lot of unknowns for tonight's episode in the Villa and Casa Amora, but we will be watching in the meantime.
00:31:01
Speaker 4: We always appreciate you listening to us. Everyone. I'm Amy Roeboch alongside T. J. Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 1: Hey that folks.
00:00:02
Speaker 2: It is Monday, June twenty second, and Love Island season eight, episode seventeen is in the books now and it might have been the grossest episode yet. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Rold was given the producers lots of credit yesterday out said oh it's back and I'm enjoying it. Back to the relationship issues, and they went back. They went way way back.
00:00:26
Speaker 3: Yeah. Actually this was disgusting from start to finish, which.
00:00:31
Speaker 2: Kind of was Man, I'm trying not to be approved here. Somebody's enjoying this, right.
00:00:37
Speaker 3: Yes, Look, we love the drama, we love the relationship lessons, we love watching egos, we love learning about ourselves when we see folks trying to be vulnerable and trying to connect and then getting feelings. It's all amazing to watch the social experiment play out. However, look, you can have it be hot and sexy and fun, and I don't think for big prudes when it comes to that kind of thing. But this is getting to be downright, yes, disgusting. There is no other way to put it.
00:01:08
Speaker 2: I'm trying to find a way, okay, And there is a difference the proof is not in the ratings right. Just because people are watching doesn't mean they're enjoying this. And there are some episodes ropes, and last night was one of them that is just it's not just a matter of uncomfortable.
00:01:23
Speaker 1: I don't want to watch.
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Speaker 3: I don't want to see that, Yes, because when you actually like to actually have to see this unbelievable makeout session, soft porn, simulating sex, things that I can't imagine letting anyone see, like me in certain positions with a person I haven't even been introduced to yet, knowing the world is watching, my parents are watching, my potential bosses are.
00:01:52
Speaker 4: Watching, like all of that.
00:01:53
Speaker 3: Like, I cannot get my head around how they're all totally comfortable basically being almost naked, grinding up and swapping spit with people they haven't met.
00:02:04
Speaker 4: It's beyond strange to me.
00:02:08
Speaker 2: I guess last night for certain reasons. And if you haven't seen, everybody's aware. If you're listening at this point, Costant More, the Consta More episode, Enrold, you can you just succinctly explain what this all means when we say it's the Costa More episode.
00:02:21
Speaker 3: Yes, And I think we were all anticipating this week because this is when things really get shaken up, and we know that the boys and we just don't know when or how.
00:02:29
Speaker 4: So it was.
00:02:30
Speaker 3: It was a fun little surprise where we all thought the girls were going to be sexy dancing on top of their guys, and when they get all dulled up and dressed up, all of a sudden, the boys get a text as they're about to head out to realize that they're going and packing their bags and heading off to Cossa More for a couple of days where they're going to get a brand new set of bombshells to potentially actually recouple with and upend their current relationship, and everybody gets excited.
00:02:58
Speaker 2: They put this right pretty much smack to have in the middle of the seasons, and it always stirs things up. So okay, fine, this is happening last night, so robes. I guess a part that made this even worse is because it went back kind of to the beginning to where everybody they're strangers. Six new women came in and these six guys robes and this wasn't we call them makeout sessions, And that's that's wrong to call them that. I agree These folks are doing everything short of penetration. And there are times that these guys they literally last night had their head in between the legs of a woman they just met, and they're going from person to person. These women are robes. These are strip shows. These were stripper moves. Fine, I'm not impressive, but robes. I saw full on lap dances and strip teas. And the guys were touching these women in a way that is inappropriate in any other setting. And so we're watching what is not normal being normal normal setting that here it. Yes, I guess roles, this is just what they do, but this is come on, Love Island, you know what you're doing. You got a huge record breaking hit. So I clearly I don't know what I'm talking about, but.
00:04:15
Speaker 4: It's just I think, look it just they could.
00:04:17
Speaker 3: Just dial it back by fifty percent and it would still be sexy and steamy. They'd still get the same results from the women. Which this was the new twist, never seen this before. The women are shocked and surprised with basically a live feed from cosa Amore and they are watching these guys who they have feelings for, who some of them have just done some pretty significant sexual acts with who they think they're going to be coupled up with, and maybe that their relationship will be tested at Casamore. Oh no, They're seeing women basically do everything but have sex with their guys, and the reaction from the men was just as disgusting as the sexual acts themselves.
00:04:59
Speaker 2: This was a bad episode for everybody, maybe except for the women at the villa. This was a bad episode I think for every single one of the guys, except for maybe Caleb.
00:05:11
Speaker 1: Caleb, knock yourself out. You've got no girl, you.
00:05:13
Speaker 4: Know what, that's a good points.
00:05:16
Speaker 3: He's not doing something to a woman left behind just shocked and hurt and wounded by not just the fact that he's being kissed by another woman, because you could say, well, that's not his fault, that's part of the game, but his giddiness and unbridled childlike excitement about the idea. It's like they were salivating. I don't even know, like just I don't even know how to describe their demban or how would you describe it childish.
00:05:50
Speaker 2: It was like a little boy who just saw booties for the first time.
00:05:55
Speaker 4: Yeah, did you say boobies?
00:05:56
Speaker 1: Yes?
00:05:56
Speaker 2: Yes, But I'm trying to put in that it was I've been around about roes Is. This was very immature, not even locker room type behavior. This was like junior high locker room type behavior.
00:06:11
Speaker 3: It was.
00:06:12
Speaker 2: It was odd to see and every single one of them we were fellas back and off a little bit.
00:06:17
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like they were way too excited, and it was yeah, exactly. And look, if I was one of the women coupled up with one of those guys, I don't look.
00:06:27
Speaker 4: I'm sure there was a.
00:06:28
Speaker 3: Feeling of anger and betrayal, but mostly I would have just been icked out, engrossed out by the juvenile, ridiculous behavior. I would be turned off so much, not because I was personally offended, but just by their behaviors.
00:06:44
Speaker 2: Before the women ever touched any one of the guys. Yes, I think every single one of their girls back at the villa had a legitimate cost to say, I don't want to be with that guy.
00:06:55
Speaker 3: And you know what, they all had the exact same look on their It was it was disgusted, confusion and it and then there was pain.
00:07:07
Speaker 4: On Kata's face for sure.
00:07:08
Speaker 3: She actually cried at one point, Melanie, she was almost stonefaced, to the point where I think she could not believe what she was seeing.
00:07:17
Speaker 5: No, she was doing plotting her revenge that came in. Not Yeah, she looked determined, Well this was going on, and look, we all looked at this and said, oh wow, we see what they're doing. We'd never seen obviously in real time. Later on, they've shown.
00:07:31
Speaker 3: Clips to the girls about what their guys were doing in Castlemore. I've never seen it happen where they actually the night of are watching a live feed. But what this did was you nailed this before the men were brought onto the villa, because of course they're going to get their temptation as well, but they might have been all in the fields and kind of in love and less willing to and they've seen this happen in prior episodes.
00:07:54
Speaker 4: The guys go a little.
00:07:55
Speaker 3: Crazy and the girls are more reserved and are trying to preserve the relationship there are already invested in by not actually doing anything with the guys. So it's a little less spicy, a little less less salacious back with the girls because they are a lot of them, and I know I'm generalizing, but most in other seasons we've seen the women hold back because they really want to make the relationship work. Now you got a bunch of women who watched every single one of their men disgustingly salivate and rejoice in another woman's company and say things like bye bye Kenzie, like literally laughing at the woman they're currently in a couple with as if she is nothing.
00:08:37
Speaker 4: So what does that do? Piss off all the girls who.
00:08:40
Speaker 3: Are now going to have revenge relationships?
00:08:44
Speaker 1: Do you like this element?
00:08:47
Speaker 4: I was?
00:08:48
Speaker 3: I know I don't because now you're motivated by anger instead of just saying I want to explore and see if anyone else catches my interest and actually see what happens and then actually make a decision not based or fueled by anger and betrayal and hurt, but actually just fueled by curiosity and is this guy someone I'd like to pursue more than the couple I'm in. This was very manufactured and it was real. That anger was real, but it was manufactured by producers.
00:09:22
Speaker 2: I didn't like how the women were set up for. They were set up to put to go through pain, right, and they almost what would they call this if a police officer did this to you? Right, it's a setup like you They were almost framed in a way by the producers for crime they probably wouldn't have committed under different circumstances.
00:09:45
Speaker 3: Yes, And because I do think a lot of these women, Kata especially and Melanie especially have I absolutely believe have genue win feelings for Zach and for Sincere, and they both spoken about at least definitely Melanie about wanting to have a relationship outside of the villa.
00:10:03
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really don't like this element. Not first of all, it added a disgusting element. But you when you intentionally cause pain, right they intentionally called.
00:10:14
Speaker 3: You always talk about this in this particular franchise that they do actually set up situations where they know they are causing pain to a contestant, emotional pain.
00:10:24
Speaker 1: And again you.
00:10:25
Speaker 2: Could obviously the Fellas shouldn't behave that way where the cameras where they're not and it does. You could look at that and say, see, aha, now you find out how they would behave behind the.
00:10:34
Speaker 4: Scenes exactly exactly.
00:10:37
Speaker 2: That that is fair, but Rose, that's very difficult to like they could have edited it later and not let them see it live.
00:10:45
Speaker 4: Well, that's usually what they do.
00:10:47
Speaker 2: And there's a way to frame it with some kind of kind and again, I'm not taking up. I think the guys had a very bad show yesterday and I think it's going to rove.
00:10:56
Speaker 1: This turned me off to some of the guys.
00:10:58
Speaker 3: I like, yeah, because I was just gonna ask you other than Corbyn, who's not in a relationship or sorry Caleb, Caleb is not in a relationship with anyone. So technically you could say he didn't do anything wrong, and I actually think he was.
00:11:11
Speaker 4: No, he did some gross things. I'm just remembering now.
00:11:14
Speaker 3: He was like legs up, ladies when he came in, like that was really uncomfortable to watch, like beyond uncomfortable to watch. But did any I was gonna ask you, did any guy act in any way like he had any concern about the woman on who he left behind?
00:11:30
Speaker 2: Not a little bit. I'm trying to think. I think Bryce and Sincere might be the close but since Weir.
00:11:38
Speaker 3: Was looking at these women like he wanted like they were pieces of meat.
00:11:42
Speaker 1: How was he touching And I can't remember how he was.
00:11:45
Speaker 4: Touching, but it was, Oh it was the look after they left it.
00:11:48
Speaker 3: I'm telling you that was almost worse for me, Like the look on his face said everything they did.
00:11:55
Speaker 1: They dangled me.
00:11:56
Speaker 4: Casey was bad.
00:11:58
Speaker 1: Casey was awful.
00:11:59
Speaker 2: Casey, see, he had built up so much good will with me, and that was my guy. It's amazing how this show works. Casey just I would pull him to the side and have a conversation. That was a bad look and it kind of exposed what some maybe were suggesting about him.
00:12:14
Speaker 1: That man, he's just putting on. It's just a fake.
00:12:16
Speaker 2: And but Robes, he was the worst behaving out of everyone there. It was such an immature like wow, buddies, like smacking a woman's way, it just complete strip club behavior.
00:12:30
Speaker 3: And after he smacked her butt and she didn't want him to touch her anymore, they like he and Caleb are sorry Corbin did this like finger thing?
00:12:40
Speaker 4: Like yeah, and the.
00:12:41
Speaker 3: Girls, the girls saw it. All the girls saw them celebrating. The girl saw them salivating. The girls saw them laughing and dismissing them. And yeah, I actually felt really bad for them. It felt so mean.
00:12:55
Speaker 1: It was mean.
00:12:56
Speaker 2: But baby, it was mean on I mean, you supposed to just say, hey, if the guys didn't behave that, no problem. I still the way it was set up, I mean, what are you supposed to do? I mean, put them in there and just let them say hello, introduce yourselves.
00:13:09
Speaker 4: Just that's what they used to do.
00:13:11
Speaker 3: They used to come in and mingle, or maybe they'd do a little bit of a lap dance, but it wasn't like that. I have never And the worst part is, once you saw one girl do it, you're like, oh my god, we're gonna have to watch all six of them do that. And then we had to watch the men come out and do their routine and do it all to them. We saw twelve disgusting displays of simulated sex.
00:13:37
Speaker 2: There's no other way to put it. So what did we didn't talk about yet? What did you make of? Yes, the bombshells that came in we got.
00:13:46
Speaker 1: I don't know who stands out.
00:13:47
Speaker 2: Amora Parmita, personal trainer from San Antonio. I can't remember. Somebody likes her a lot. I can't remember which guy was. There's Jaden's white lawn girl, recent grab from Arizona State, but she's from California originally Tiera sister. She's a nanny from La Sydney, twenty five year old medical assistant. And then that I'm not mentioned at the time. Did I mention Amra? Yeah, she's twenty one from Miami, lives in Atlanta. And then Alana. We have an episode previously on Alana twenty one year old. But robe she is probably going to be talked about. Well, she was talked about a little bit because of what happened in this episode, what she did, and then she's talked about afterward as well.
00:14:26
Speaker 1: She's going to be a part of the conversation.
00:14:27
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's the one who was in the Angel Wings. Twenty one years old student from Miami. She lives in La now she goes to usc correct she's in film school. But yes, please check out our previous episode because this may be the first and last time you see her on the show, because she is now embroiled in a massive controversy where there are videos surfacing now of her reportedly using the N word. And we say reportedly because the videos haven't been verified, but it very much looks like it's irrefutable that she did take part in dropping the.
00:15:00
Speaker 2: But on a happy note from Alana, she did give us Robes one of the funnier moments of the evening last night that she was trying to explain to one of the other Bomb shows that she is in film school.
00:15:13
Speaker 3: That was the lighter one of the lighter moments. They were all kind of getting to know each other, the girls, and she was like, I'm in film school. And the other I don't even remember which one it was Parmida, She's like, what are you studying? She looked at her and she goes, I'm in film school. She's like, but what are you studying? And we were laughing so hard I couldn't stop.
00:15:33
Speaker 1: It was good. It was a lighter moment.
00:15:34
Speaker 2: Things happened that will happened to be absolutely hilarious, but another hilarious moment, and they told us this was going to happen.
00:15:42
Speaker 1: The narrator in right.
00:15:45
Speaker 2: He even said in the moment, just wait, everybody is going to start googling French fries and what that means, because that came up during the episode. So sure enough, this morning, Robes got and what are French fries? Love Island was trending all over the place. Stay here, we'll explain why this is the new code word for this season season and why it's just gross.
00:16:22
Speaker 3: Welcome back everyone to this Love Island edition of Amy and TJ. We are talking about episode seventeen, and I think so far this was the most disgusting episode we have seen todate, and the bar was already pretty damn high. So we told you, and I'm sure you watched. You saw what happened when the Fellas went to Casa Amore. But before they even got to Casa Amore, the episode started off all sloppy and sticky basically.
00:16:48
Speaker 4: So yeah, it shows, or.
00:16:50
Speaker 3: At least begins with Trinity asking, Hey, which one of you is?
00:16:54
Speaker 4: Were doing French fries? French fries?
00:16:57
Speaker 3: And then she said it was too wet for it to just be kissing, and Kenzie immediately starts giggling, and she's so happy to let everyone know she's the culprit who was doing French fries. So did you know what French fries was or what that code word could mean? I was trying to figure it out.
00:17:16
Speaker 2: No, they were kind of elude. I was trying to piece together. But it was a side of something.
00:17:21
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, so apparently French fries is Season Aid's eights code for hand or mouth pleasure. So the idea is it's not a full meal, it's just a side of fries.
00:17:35
Speaker 4: It's just a snack, so to speak.
00:17:38
Speaker 3: So yes, that is when Kenzie said I was definitely getting some French fries feeling good.
00:17:45
Speaker 2: And we had to hear and see it because they do show the video from them in bed at night, right the night vision video or whatever. And you hear this audio and you see things moving rapidly under their covers robes. Okay, I mean, somebody think that's cool, that's hot, that's a drama. It's just you're you're actually you're actually playing the audio of a sex act. Yeah, you're actually showing it. The covers are on. I just I know it's not a show for kids ropes. I just there's some things or I'm blown away.
00:18:20
Speaker 3: But you know, kids everywhere, I don't. I can only imagine probably as young as elementary school are watching this stuff on their phones on their.
00:18:29
Speaker 4: Tablets, and everyone's talking.
00:18:31
Speaker 3: About it, and I just look, it's just wow. I can't imagine. I mean, these and these are young adults. They're adults, but some of them are as young as twenty one.
00:18:49
Speaker 1: It's wild andes.
00:18:50
Speaker 2: Maybe I should we should put in keep it in the context of it being a show, and this is these are now performers, and these are now cast members of a show, and they are they're performing based on what the producers want them to do, and this is not real life, and there's another way look at it, Robes. Yes, they're twenty twenty one, twenty three, twenty four. Shouldn't maybe swap and spit, knock yourselves out, do everything you want, live a life. Maybe that's okay and should be and it all is okay.
00:19:18
Speaker 1: It's just okay. It's fine to say we don't like it.
00:19:22
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I love so many parts of the show, but I just hate how they have just ramped up the sexual part of the show. But okay, I mean still watching because look, I at this point, look and we should mention it ended the show or the Yeah, the episode ended yesterday with now the women have twelve men coming in, so there are six of them, correct, So there are two men for every woman.
00:19:50
Speaker 4: Basically, so to speak.
00:19:51
Speaker 3: So they're giving them double the pleasure. And they were screaming we want the men. I mean they they went from being shocked to being sad, to being angry to being vengeful.
00:20:03
Speaker 4: We saw that arc of those.
00:20:06
Speaker 3: Four emotions take place over the hour plus episode, and those girls are ready to go.
00:20:16
Speaker 2: Okay, it's just not I don't know, I'm not looking forward to that. It's not fun. It's not nobody's getting to know somebody or making some new connection. As they keep saying, the women just want to jump the bones of everybody that comes in to get back at the men and feel better.
00:20:32
Speaker 1: Does this mean they're.
00:20:33
Speaker 2: Going to have and you remind me, Rope, I don't remember what usually goes down after casa or do couples survive?
00:20:39
Speaker 4: Yes, a lot of them do, and a lot of them will.
00:20:42
Speaker 3: It's never been like this in terms of being this actually charged, but oftentimes and look, the women have never seen anything live like that. They've seen little blurbs and little exerts. But we've seen the guys outside of kissing challenges because they always say it doesn't count if it's a challenge or in this greet here it's but the way they are reacting still matters. And so I don't know with the way each of these men has reacted or how they reacted, I don't know if there's a way to go back. I've not seen collectively all the guys behave like this. I've seen some guys behave like that, but other guys be more reserved because they do want to stay in their relationship. So it's gonna be very interesting to see if there is any couple who can survive what we saw last night. And we still have yet to see what the girls are going to do. So, I mean, if there's one, do you think there's one couple? Because Kaita and Zach were kind of the strong ones and leading into this, they were having a rough go of it.
00:21:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, that Zach is jealous y'all have been telling me for a while. Zach was growing on me.
00:21:43
Speaker 1: I was like, and I was digging Zach.
00:21:45
Speaker 2: Zach is a He's a jealous guy, which is okay, but it's how he's going about there is is it even passive aggressive?
00:21:54
Speaker 3: He's passive aggressive and he's childlike because if he was jealous, he could say, Babe, what she wanted him to say was let's be closed off, then let's it be just the two.
00:22:05
Speaker 4: Of us, but he wouldn't.
00:22:06
Speaker 3: He kept saying I'm open and then he's like, well, She's like, I'm gonna stay open too. She insisted on staying open just to have a chat with Caleb. She was like to her girls, I'm not even attracted to him, but he can't say he's open and then get mad at me or get jealous because I'm just saying I'm open to a chat another chat with someone, and she's like, he can say I'd like to be closed off with you, and if that's what he wants, he can't have his cake and eat it too. He can't say I don't want you to talk to anyone, but I also want to remain open. So I don't know what game he's playing, but he wanted her to be his, but he also wanted to keep his door open.
00:22:42
Speaker 2: I think this episode might have been the end for Zach and Casey. I say these, I agree there's something they have to do, something major to be redemptive. But Robes this for anybody watching, you're completely turned off to these two guys. Yes, the kiss, singing, even the hands and a lot of stuff. It's just how they behaved in such a bizarrely giddy way about a new woman coming into the building.
00:23:09
Speaker 1: It was just it was odd, and they were.
00:23:12
Speaker 3: Feeding off of each other in all the wrong ways. Do you think that could have been a part of it the group mentality?
00:23:19
Speaker 4: Individually?
00:23:19
Speaker 3: Would they all have done this or was it just a collective emotion that just I mean they they were. We were looking at them as they were getting so excited to pack their backs. It was it was I was embarrassed for them. I'm like, calm down something.
00:23:34
Speaker 2: It could be fun and silly and is a part of a show, but it was there they really acted like they've never seen a woman in bikini or whatever before.
00:23:42
Speaker 1: They act that it was strange.
00:23:44
Speaker 2: Behavior that turns you on that any woman, would you see your man behave like that? You are not gonna be attractive.
00:23:52
Speaker 4: You can't unsee it, you can't.
00:23:54
Speaker 2: I mean, look, women know, married whatever. Sometimes you gotta go to a strip club. You might not like it, you might not want to see it, you know kind of what happens. But if you had to see a guy yelling like a little boy, game over, it's just a bad look and romes do they really I don't know anything. We don't know anything about these women yet. All we know is about them physically. But do they usually send how about this the crop of women that come in initially on the same level as the people they send into Kasoa more?
00:24:26
Speaker 3: Yeah, I it look, it could be the way they're cast and the conditions in which they enter, but it always appears as if the costa of war girls are like the temptresses, So they just are regarded differently, they appear different.
00:24:41
Speaker 1: That's what I felt in this episode completely though.
00:24:44
Speaker 2: There are a couple of women, and I applaud you for the moves, but the stripper material. Yes, some of the moves they were pulling off were if they look like professionals.
00:24:55
Speaker 1: That is not a knock. This is an observation. So it did.
00:24:59
Speaker 2: Robes one came in. It didn't feel like a high how you do? Oh yeah, my god. After all the making out, then they introduced themselves.
00:25:06
Speaker 4: That was so weird.
00:25:07
Speaker 3: Weird after they like literally almost had sex with each other without knowing each other's names. Then they actually walked like through a line, shaking each other's hands, giving each other's names to one another.
00:25:20
Speaker 4: That was so bizarre, like.
00:25:21
Speaker 1: A rope line. There was going through high I'm hi.
00:25:24
Speaker 4: I'm kse, nice to meet you. What is happening? You all just almost had a baby together. I don't even know how.
00:25:32
Speaker 3: Now you're introducing each other's names to one another.
00:25:35
Speaker 4: It was crazy.
00:25:37
Speaker 2: So that's what it didn't seem fair either that they do a seductious They didn't send didn't seem like an option in there to get to know or to me, to get to know these they sent people in. It had to be on the questionnaire can you do this move? You do your dance robes?
00:25:53
Speaker 4: They were how are your pole dancing moves?
00:25:56
Speaker 3: I mean they probably went to pole dancing classes before they were preparing to be on the show. I'm actually curious, and everyone can laugh at me, but what would you do if you had a beautiful dropped it? And these women are all gorgeous, But a gorgeous woman who actually was a little bit less sexy, a little bit more just like fun and flirty and not as over the top, would that stand out and maybe even set her apart. Like I feel sad that these girls feel like they almost sexually and the men too, have to one up each other. I mean, oh, we didn't even talk about Bryce trying to be sexy.
00:26:30
Speaker 4: That was some of the funny.
00:26:31
Speaker 3: Actually, that was the comedic relief that I needed from all of the over sexualized moves that people were actually a little too good at. It made me a little concerned. Actually, there was something even sweet about the fact that he is incredibly unsexy and not a great and.
00:26:45
Speaker 4: Goofy goof and it made it. It was like I was like, oh, thank god, someone isn't like a polished pole dancer.
00:26:51
Speaker 3: I appreciated that, and not like I really feel like some of these guys might be exotic dancers to earn some extra money on the side. That's I was like disturbed. Do you practice this in the mirror? How do you get good at that?
00:27:04
Speaker 1: Because they are really good.
00:27:07
Speaker 2: Good, but yeah, I just I don't know. It didn't seem fair. They sty're sending in And this is why I think Zach is done. You got Kada bruh, Yeah, like people like Kida. Yeah, and everybody looks at Kata. You've said several times some body is banging. Oh we know a good friend of analysis reminds us of her. They I mean, she has she's grown on everybody, and we're kind of rooting for her and kind of see Zach along the way not quite doing her right. And then he goes over here and does this. The America hates him probably right now.
00:27:41
Speaker 3: Oh yes, because people love Kada, they love a Naya, they love trinity, and these are women who are gorgeous, have banging bodies, but also have cute, spunky personalities. And look, we don't know these other women yet, so it's not fair maybe to say they don't have the same but.
00:27:59
Speaker 4: It's just I don't know this.
00:28:02
Speaker 3: They set us up to be rooting for certain people and rooting against others, and right now the men are all in the doghouse.
00:28:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, and none of the I haven't seen. I mean, the women along the way have had issues here, didn't handle this approachably, said the wrong thing, backstabbing, little stuff. They've had nothing on the level that would turn America collectively off to them.
00:28:24
Speaker 3: No, they're like, their hearts are in the right places, and right now their hearts are wounded, so they probably will get a pass for any bad behavior they may. They may actually begin tonight because they're angry.
00:28:38
Speaker 4: And I think every woman understands. You see your man do that? Watch me?
00:28:42
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think there's anything they could do that we would go she shouldn't have done that, because now we're all thinking, well, I understand.
00:28:49
Speaker 3: Exactly, Like they actually kind of have a license to do or say whatever they want after what they witness.
00:28:56
Speaker 4: Now I do. I am curious, how do you think the guys are going to react?
00:29:00
Speaker 3: When they find out that the girls saw everything live as it was happening and heard everything, they was a guy's reaction.
00:29:08
Speaker 1: They will try to.
00:29:11
Speaker 4: Explain they were exploring.
00:29:14
Speaker 2: It was a setup, right, we were exploited in a situation. It was just a game. We were going along with it.
00:29:20
Speaker 4: Do you agree? Do you think that that's a fair justification for their actions?
00:29:23
Speaker 1: It's toll same.
00:29:25
Speaker 2: Even the behavior doing again my big turn off, like why are you all jumping up and down like idiots? Yes, a few women coming in the building. Yes she's attractive, fine, but.
00:29:36
Speaker 3: The grabbing of asses like that was wild to me. Like, if you look, you can still have fun. This is the game, have a girl do a lap dance on you, but you can still be respectful.
00:29:46
Speaker 4: Most of those guys were not respectful.
00:29:49
Speaker 1: That is amazing. Respectful at the strip club is I'm.
00:29:51
Speaker 3: Only saying that because they knew they're well, they didn't know their girls were watching, but they knew America was watching, and they had to think that maybe they would be this video would be played back to their girls.
00:30:00
Speaker 1: Point so now it's not just childish, it's stupid.
00:30:06
Speaker 4: What good comes out of it?
00:30:08
Speaker 2: A woman's ass the country sees that you need the country to vote for you.
00:30:12
Speaker 3: You are now going to be labeled like an immature dufest dog.
00:30:18
Speaker 2: And they all kind of looked it and they deserve it. At this point, there is no defense. I got nothing. Wow, they playing the game, being silly, being lose. Hey, it's just fun, don't sweat it. It's not that deep. Haven't known these girls that long over at the Casa Villa or the Villa.
00:30:32
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know.
00:30:33
Speaker 2: Maybe somebody could say, you all just calm down, it's not that serious. It's just a stupid streaming show, or some sexy people are making.
00:30:39
Speaker 3: Out, possibly, but I think it's a little more than that. And look, they're all the trending topics right here. If you go on to X it's all Love Island. Everybody is watching and weighing in, and we will see what happens tonight. There's a lot of unknowns for tonight's episode in the Villa and Casa Amora, but we will be watching in the meantime.
00:31:01
Speaker 4: We always appreciate you listening to us. Everyone. I'm Amy Roeboch alongside T. J. Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.