June 20, 2026
Love Island (EP 15): Stepping On And Sucking Toes
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RSS Feed So that tease about the girls and the boys getting into a big fight over dumping Gabe, wasn’t quite what ended happening. Sure they exchanged some frank words, but they all kissed and made up…. And then the kissing returned with an even grosser turn: feet kisses. Ew. The episode ends with a potential powder keg of a situation between Aniya and K.C.
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Speaker 1: Hey that folks. It is Saturday, June twentieth, and Love Island Season eight, episode fifteen is in the books. What did we learn? You're a hole? No, you're a hole? And with that, welcome to this episode of Aby and DJ. What there was? Okay, Well, there's so much in this episode to get to what give me your top three highlights? Don't get into them, just list them. What stood out of this episode?
00:00:31
Speaker 2: Well, it could be a low light for me, not necessarily even a highlight. Stood out that they're really good at teasing stuff that didn't actually happen, like we thought there was going to be this huge brew haha. And then Brice apparently has a foot fetish that I didn't need to know about.
00:00:46
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that.
00:00:47
Speaker 2: Stood out okay, and then I'm here to watch the explosion between an I and Casey.
00:00:54
Speaker 1: Okay, that has been building, that's been bubbling. Can I ask this? Why does it feel? Maybe to me there seems to be I don't know if it's intentional, but it's gotten gossipy in this episode, like stirring up the pot that was unnecessarily Why are you doing that to your friend? You know what's gonna do to her? And let me talk behind you, But it seemed like some stuff was going high school stuff was going on in this episod Baybe have you lived.
00:01:16
Speaker 2: I always tell this to the girls, You're never out of high school. It doesn't matter how old you are, you are always going to be in high school. And gossip is always going to be a part of any conversation, and especially at the villa where you've got so many people kissing one another, trying to figure out who's loyal to whom, and everyone wants to try and basically there's a tribalism going on between the girls, between the boys, between the couples, and it's just messy, and it really is truly what happens in real life. It's just an extreme version of it.
00:01:53
Speaker 1: Okay, first, I'll say we'll get to this. They brought some nasty stuff back in this episode that I absolutely hated, absolutely hate it. But fine, and you saw an oracle we'll get into as well. Yes, you saw that. We're not the only ones gonna miscape Gonna. I'm really uh, I'm really bothered. Even more so now about Gabe. We liked him because he was authentic throughout. He's a Latin love a boy. His English wasn't the best. He expressed himself better in Portuguese. He grew on us and he broke down crying when Beatrice left, So to see him handle it the well as well as he did. This is how the episode started, and most of you listening did see. But he'd started out by by letting him have his little say after they had dumped him off the island.
00:02:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, he was essentially accused of being an f boy, and it was confusing because he had been in two relationships.
00:02:45
Speaker 3: He didn't dump Beatrice.
00:02:47
Speaker 2: She got voted off basically by America, That's what happened, and he was put into a couple with Jims. So literally, any of the choices that he made weren't made by him, so it's bizarre. They said he had a lustful energy, doesn't everybody? I think Zach was like, what do you mean? Or Casey even said like, we're all lusting.
00:03:10
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, he was a great All.
00:03:13
Speaker 3: Have lust in our hearts, Like how is Gabe any difference?
00:03:17
Speaker 1: But they made points. Now this is where and I know it was the guy girl thing, but the guys were making, come on robes a decent point here that it got They were shocked and upset when they heard his name called. He was going to get voted out. When they heard their logic for it, they really started spiraling because it doesn't make any It really doesn't make I still don't understand.
00:03:41
Speaker 3: Do you think that.
00:03:42
Speaker 2: The girls regretted their decision and just tried to defend it because they felt bad about it.
00:03:47
Speaker 1: That's why the the tease was what it was and why there was a little fighting at the beginning of this episode. Bro If they immediately got mad at the guys for just being bothered that their boy was leaving, this is where relationship stuff comes in. Just the fact that they showed emotion at what the women had done resulted in the women getting mad at them for showing that emotion. What do we do with that?
00:04:12
Speaker 3: Well, isn't that a lot of our fights?
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Speaker 1: All of them, every single one of them. Every fight is that thing. So I robes so break it down when you can step back from a distance. They made a decision that upset the Fellas. Now the Fellaws could have you could say bad reason, let's not even go that far. But just them getting upset, Why can that not be listened to?
00:04:39
Speaker 3: Because they viewed it immediately as being.
00:04:44
Speaker 2: Disloyal, okay, who the women felt like the men attacking them or questioning their decision felt like a breach of trust.
00:04:52
Speaker 1: Hey, let me a breach of trust to be upset by a decision you made. See again, this is how there's a.
00:04:58
Speaker 2: Way disrespected, like respect our decision, respect how we came about this choice.
00:05:02
Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying. And there it is. And this is where that's very much a woman's response and your response when we're having these fights. You still won't stop and let the guys be upset. You just came back and said, well, yeah, we'll said you didn't respect. It's a respect thing. Robes. You won't let them even have an emotional reaction to their boy leaving, and you're nodding it. Yep, that's right.
00:05:30
Speaker 3: It's what we all saw play out.
00:05:32
Speaker 1: It's a weird thing to watch, Robes. This is fascinating relationship stuff.
00:05:35
Speaker 2: It is, and it's funny. It does seem to be a I don't know what it is if it's socially how we're conditioned, if it's just a girl and a guy thing, a Venus and Mars thing. I did think the guys were able to bring the temperature down really well. I was impressed. They just said, okay, let's hug it out and they just moved on. Some things probably will never be agreed upon.
00:05:59
Speaker 1: And that's but I'm saying, Robes that there was a conversation that didn't need to explode into brief anger. But if that been outside in the real worldhere, the couple has been together for two years, and that kind of like, that's a different conversation. You made a decision that hurt me. It upset me, and I'm upset about it, and I.
00:06:21
Speaker 3: Don't like you're upset that you're upset about it.
00:06:24
Speaker 1: That's the thing when someone does that man or woman said I'm upset by something you just did. Don't explain what you did, don't defend. That is absolutely listen to why somebody is hurt. Just listen. Oh, I love it.
00:06:42
Speaker 2: And then from there I loved how Corbin then explained to Kenzie because he found out because he was up on the chopping block too, so he wasn't a part of the decision, but he found out later that the boys were about to throw Kenzie off the island for the exact same reason that the girls decided to Gabe, and that's kind of legit.
00:07:04
Speaker 1: They had numbers like you kiss four guys, he only kissed two. Like they were calling her on her stuff, Robes. That's a good point.
00:07:12
Speaker 3: It was a good point, and she did not concede it.
00:07:16
Speaker 1: Nope, she defended and deflected. You love saying that, and it's so true what you all If you all don't know that, Robes, I don't know where you got it, and you but you've been saying it to me since I've known you. But it's what people do oftentimes and pay attention to it in a fight, defend and deflect. If you say something to someone and their first thing is to defend and then deflect, you know you're well, that's.
00:07:39
Speaker 3: Not really fair. That's not what I did. But you know what you did.
00:07:42
Speaker 1: You did this defend and deflect sincere did it last episode, right, Well you did bad stuff too.
00:07:48
Speaker 3: You're no angel.
00:07:50
Speaker 1: Defend and deflect.
00:07:51
Speaker 3: It is human nature.
00:07:53
Speaker 1: But keep it in your pocket so you'll notice when you do it and other people defend and deflect.
00:07:58
Speaker 3: It absolutely, But I did appreciate.
00:08:01
Speaker 2: I thought it was so interesting and I actually thought it was good that that Corbyn told Kenzie like, I don't.
00:08:08
Speaker 3: I didn't feel like that was gossipy.
00:08:09
Speaker 2: I felt like he wanted to let her know that, Hey, your behavior was noticed as well, and you almost got kicked off, kicked out of the villa.
00:08:18
Speaker 1: And I was, I guess I was surprised, and maybe, as I'm saying, I was like, oh, are you surprised? So she kind of really defended herself in that in a not a mature way. She was you could tell you she's like, I'm.
00:08:32
Speaker 2: Rusty, I'm not lustful, like she like that was the distinction. And I'm sorry, I just heard you say you were horny three times in the last episode, So I don't know if that's not lustful, I.
00:08:42
Speaker 3: Don't know what is.
00:08:44
Speaker 1: Why do I know the last time she had sex, I shouldn't she let us all know she's lustful.
00:08:50
Speaker 2: So I think that's so funny that she immediately said I'm not lustful.
00:08:54
Speaker 3: So I also thought Corbyn handled that well as well.
00:08:56
Speaker 2: Instead of continuing, he just said, babe, don't get defensive, Babe, don't get defensive, and he just said, I'm just explaining where their heads were, please don't take it so personally. So and then he moved on and.
00:09:10
Speaker 1: That was Corbyn's best moment since he's been on the show. Corven, well done. He I think it was necessarily necessary, and I think it was I think it was kind to tell her that I do too. He wasn't betraying the boys at all. Agreed that he showed me a lot and I have really appreciated Corbyn and how he handled that moment.
00:09:30
Speaker 2: He grew on me because I thought he was honest, but he was kind I like, and what he was saying was hard to hear, if not even though it was true, it was hard to hear, and he but he I hate the idea of someone managing someone else, but I do think when you're in a couple with someone, you're in a relationship with someone, there has to be some level of managing someone else's feelings to the extent that even if you know it's a hard thing to hear, still also saying, but I love you, and I just thought you needed to know this. I know he didn't say I love you because they're not in love, but he writes a sentiment.
00:10:02
Speaker 1: He recognized immediately that it wasn't being received well, and he cut his losses.
00:10:09
Speaker 3: That's a good way to put it.
00:10:10
Speaker 1: Okay, Corbyn, that was well, really well done. I was waiting for him to have a good moment, Like I like that moment a lot.
00:10:17
Speaker 2: Yes, And so we were like really into it and we were just talking about how wonderful it's been not to have too many or too much kissing.
00:10:25
Speaker 3: And then we get another challenge.
00:10:28
Speaker 1: What was it called the Swords and the Kings and the Queens, and everyone gets to it's so funny.
00:10:32
Speaker 2: It's like these are grown ass adults and they're getting to play dress up and it's super.
00:10:36
Speaker 3: Exciting to all of them. So they were in princess costumes and the men were in like prince costumes and they looked idiotic, but somehow they were all excited about it because they're just that bored.
00:10:48
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right, man. When a text message comes in, it is the biggest moment ever.
00:10:53
Speaker 2: Oh my god. It's like the door dash delivery when you're starving. It's like the same exact reaction.
00:10:59
Speaker 1: It's a lot of sitting around. Oh, I don't give them give him a Nintendo.
00:11:05
Speaker 2: They don't even have alcohol or anything to give them something.
00:11:08
Speaker 1: Man.
00:11:09
Speaker 3: I mean that's a good thing. Can you imagine if they let them drink.
00:11:11
Speaker 1: Sat around and oh, I watched that.
00:11:14
Speaker 3: It's one drink a night or two drinks a night. I think it's two drinks a night. I think that's so smart.
00:11:19
Speaker 2: But yes, even without any liquid courage, we got to see the Islanders licking each other's toes, sucking toes, going from one toe to the next. Some of the men licked legs. It was repulsive and even Casey acknowledged it was disgusting. I think he did say that, but Bryce was so weirdly into it.
00:11:39
Speaker 1: But the kissing came back, just swapping. I don't why are they doing that now everybody's coupled up, Why are you kissing?
00:11:47
Speaker 3: Because they want drama.
00:11:48
Speaker 2: The one guy gets to pick who the other guy who's blindfold kisses whoever's girl?
00:11:54
Speaker 3: And yes, and it did create drama. It did create drama.
00:11:58
Speaker 2: Because you all so have these which islander basically isn't being true to his princess or at which king? And of course they picked Casey and we knew where this was heading. So when we come back, we'll tell you about the yes powder keg that is brewing between Casey and Anaya. This one, I think is going to be explosive.
00:12:23
Speaker 1: And and and.
00:12:31
Speaker 2: Welcome back everyone to our Love Island edition of Amy and TJ. And the episode fifteen ended with Trinity stir in the pot with Anaya after she had just heard that Casey possibly wasn't being true to his feelings once again. Now she's all in her head spiraling and Trinity just added gasoline to the fire.
00:12:57
Speaker 1: Why why does she tell her this? She?
00:12:59
Speaker 2: I do think Trinity's a nice person. I do think she was trying to let her friend know what she might be up against with case She might be trying to protect her and make sure that yes, when either new bombshells come in or they have those guys walk into the villa when the boys go to Casa Moore, Maybe she's trying to make sure her girl keeps her options.
00:13:22
Speaker 1: Open, is my question. So Casey voted for Soul or made an argument for Soul to stay yes.
00:13:30
Speaker 3: And he was the only one of the boys who wanted Soul to stay.
00:13:33
Speaker 1: Okay, So let me ask you, just as an observer, is that a problem? Is that an issue? Did Casey do wrong? I guess what is? What? Do you see the problem in what Casey did?
00:13:50
Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with what Casey did. If he wanted to keep someone there because he thought she deserved a fair shake, and maybe he thought he wanted a fair shake with her, that's what the game is all. But I also think that Anaya had every reason to feel upset about that.
00:14:04
Speaker 1: Oh there it is. There it is, and that's fine. So this is going to once again cause they.
00:14:09
Speaker 2: Have had too many of the same arguments about the same girl and about his wanting to write they're.
00:14:16
Speaker 1: Going to break up now that she's gone.
00:14:18
Speaker 2: I could see that happening, honestly, yes, because she feels like she can't trust him, and she's going to say the next time someone walks in a light skinned girl, I'm going to be on the chopping block.
00:14:26
Speaker 1: Okay, this is my prediction for the show. And if I use polymarket or Calshi or whatever, I would bet on this. Okay, They're going to send some light skinned girls Casey's.
00:14:37
Speaker 2: Way because they just heard that is going to ramp up the drama significantly, or at least it casts el Moore. That's next week, right, Yeah, there will be some light skin girls that.
00:14:48
Speaker 1: Man, they are recruiting them now who because that's that's and the folks that don't know they've they've touched on this a little bit. But this is important and it is relevant, and this is where Anaya needs to be listened to and hugged to a certain degree. Yes, people like her, even the water she twenty whatever, but her and women who in their eighties black women dealt with the same thing, this idea of lighter, wider skin is the standard of beauty or longer and straighter hair is a standard of beauty. And so she's dealt with this her entire life. And it's a thing in the black community. Colorism. Even jokes about the light skinned ones get to stay in the house with Massa and the dog skin has got to be in the field with the Yeah, that's a thing, but that is it is, and even in society that lighter skin black folks have better advantages in business and whatnot because we seem to blend or lighter that way. It's just a thing. So you even said she might be soul might be the most stunning person who has set foot on Love Island this season. Casey black strong brother with a dark skinned sister who he has said in early comments, right, you remember him saying complimenting her on her dark She almost cried.
00:16:10
Speaker 2: She did almost cry about it, and Trinity talked about it again this episode what dark skinned women face.
00:16:15
Speaker 1: So this light skinned stunner comes in that it seems like your guy can't get off his mind. There's more there than just some Casa Amore and Love Island bullshit. There's some history there. There's some real hurt and real life experience. I'm sure she has had that came to fruition in front of all of us.
00:16:38
Speaker 2: And look, it's no matter whether I know there are times you've not agreed with an Eya even like man, come on, she's overreacting or she's being really insecure in this moment, but I do think that's so important to point that out. Yes, she is an authentic person and she is so likable. I mean, I don't know what the polling is showing, but everyone we've talked to, everybody loves an Eye.
00:17:00
Speaker 1: Yeah. I wish they could. I wish they could be calm. I wish they could have a quiet moment because the stuff that's been happening, the back and forth is and.
00:17:09
Speaker 3: It's gonna blow because anyway.
00:17:11
Speaker 1: Where they gonna send in. Oh, they're gonna send.
00:17:13
Speaker 2: In Casey's Casey is I think at this point out he's pissed, like he is done and she kind of is too, So I am. I am not feeling like at one point we thought they might win.
00:17:25
Speaker 3: I do not.
00:17:26
Speaker 1: Their last steps are so small. They just just a little that word going there, or that sentence not being said, or just a little, and they would be golden.
00:17:37
Speaker 2: Those love letters put them right back on track. And then now we got problems.
00:17:41
Speaker 1: Going on and still is a problem.
00:17:43
Speaker 2: See this is why, as disgusting as those challenges are, they always bring the drama. And speaking of disgusting challenges, you reference this. Yes, the New York Times did an entire article called this season of Love Island USA is giving fans.
00:17:59
Speaker 1: The ick ding ding ding ding.
00:18:01
Speaker 2: And we were waiting for this because we knew this was coming. But they just said that basically, yes, producers have absolutely upped the ante. And whereas challenges before used to be more about getting to know people in intimate questions, they still have that, but it didn't have women in lingerie blindfolded with handcuffs roves.
00:18:24
Speaker 1: I forgot. Those challenges just made you uncomfortable.
00:18:28
Speaker 3: Correct, well, maybe there was a kiss at the end, but nothing.
00:18:30
Speaker 2: We're not seeing people straddling others, slapping butts and with the and I sound so old and prudish, but these girls have g strings on to the point where we're I just they look like naked bodies, like it's bizarre, and they're literally just rubbing up all over each other kissing. It's going into private rooms to kiss strangers. The clip on mics aren't muted. People are asking for the volume to be turned down. They even said the British version did the same thing and had this upped up sexual atmosphere, and that fans were saying, please, please, at the very least, can you turn the audio off.
00:19:06
Speaker 3: We don't want to hear the sloppy kisses. It's gross.
00:19:11
Speaker 1: It kind of is.
00:19:12
Speaker 3: It is gross.
00:19:13
Speaker 1: I just don't know who this appeals. It's not sexy. But yeah, they brought it back. They've had a few episodes where we seem to escape that.
00:19:23
Speaker 2: I do think that hopefully they will kind of dial it back a little bit, like people are on TikTok or saying it's literally just like, hey, can we get you guys to be as nasty and as sexual as possible. The challenges are sexual in nature and that did not happen before. So I feel like, especially when they don't know each other, it's don't you think about when now that you are invested in certain couple's relationships, it's less gross to watch them kiss, but it's gross to watch complete strangers completely make out in such an intimate way when there's no level of intimacy. It's disgusting. But by the way, this season so far breaking Peacock viewership records.
00:20:07
Speaker 1: I say what you want, you all are watching.
00:20:10
Speaker 3: And that, and we are watching Love Island USA.
00:20:14
Speaker 2: Season eight is Peacock's most watched TV debut ever, with twenty three percent of viewership on phones and tablets.
00:20:23
Speaker 3: That was just after the first episode.
00:20:25
Speaker 2: But they are doing gangbusters, and to think people are watching it wherever they are, like with their phones on the subway.
00:20:33
Speaker 3: It just may be at work.
00:20:35
Speaker 2: But this thing is not going away, and unfortunately, perhaps neither is the ick factor.
00:20:43
Speaker 1: I hate the eck and we do. We fast forward through these things. We skip that part of these shows, but ropes. We have been on the road since last Thursday throughout Europe. We have a VPN. We have watched and kept up with Loveland as we have bounced from Amsterdam to Belgium to France to Ireland. People are watching. We're hooked. People are hooked, and so no matter how much we complain, they can always point back to you. It. It's all the biggest fans we have.
00:21:19
Speaker 2: Shut up, but it is fun and we'll get through the ick factor to actually get to witness and watch and learn from the relationship lessons that are there in each and every episode. So I guess tonight they've got the after Sun party, So we're not that into that as much.
00:21:37
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know, Maybe we'll.
00:21:39
Speaker 2: Tune it in, but we're here for Sunday night to watch what happens between Casey and Anaya the end. And with that, everyone, we always appreciate you listening to us. I may be revoc alongside TJ.
00:21:52
Speaker 3: Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.
00:22:00
Speaker 1: Not two things
Speaker 1: Hey that folks. It is Saturday, June twentieth, and Love Island Season eight, episode fifteen is in the books. What did we learn? You're a hole? No, you're a hole? And with that, welcome to this episode of Aby and DJ. What there was? Okay, Well, there's so much in this episode to get to what give me your top three highlights? Don't get into them, just list them. What stood out of this episode?
00:00:31
Speaker 2: Well, it could be a low light for me, not necessarily even a highlight. Stood out that they're really good at teasing stuff that didn't actually happen, like we thought there was going to be this huge brew haha. And then Brice apparently has a foot fetish that I didn't need to know about.
00:00:46
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that.
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Speaker 2: Stood out okay, and then I'm here to watch the explosion between an I and Casey.
00:00:54
Speaker 1: Okay, that has been building, that's been bubbling. Can I ask this? Why does it feel? Maybe to me there seems to be I don't know if it's intentional, but it's gotten gossipy in this episode, like stirring up the pot that was unnecessarily Why are you doing that to your friend? You know what's gonna do to her? And let me talk behind you, But it seemed like some stuff was going high school stuff was going on in this episod Baybe have you lived.
00:01:16
Speaker 2: I always tell this to the girls, You're never out of high school. It doesn't matter how old you are, you are always going to be in high school. And gossip is always going to be a part of any conversation, and especially at the villa where you've got so many people kissing one another, trying to figure out who's loyal to whom, and everyone wants to try and basically there's a tribalism going on between the girls, between the boys, between the couples, and it's just messy, and it really is truly what happens in real life. It's just an extreme version of it.
00:01:53
Speaker 1: Okay, first, I'll say we'll get to this. They brought some nasty stuff back in this episode that I absolutely hated, absolutely hate it. But fine, and you saw an oracle we'll get into as well. Yes, you saw that. We're not the only ones gonna miscape Gonna. I'm really uh, I'm really bothered. Even more so now about Gabe. We liked him because he was authentic throughout. He's a Latin love a boy. His English wasn't the best. He expressed himself better in Portuguese. He grew on us and he broke down crying when Beatrice left, So to see him handle it the well as well as he did. This is how the episode started, and most of you listening did see. But he'd started out by by letting him have his little say after they had dumped him off the island.
00:02:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, and look, he was essentially accused of being an f boy, and it was confusing because he had been in two relationships.
00:02:45
Speaker 3: He didn't dump Beatrice.
00:02:47
Speaker 2: She got voted off basically by America, That's what happened, and he was put into a couple with Jims. So literally, any of the choices that he made weren't made by him, so it's bizarre. They said he had a lustful energy, doesn't everybody? I think Zach was like, what do you mean? Or Casey even said like, we're all lusting.
00:03:10
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, he was a great All.
00:03:13
Speaker 3: Have lust in our hearts, Like how is Gabe any difference?
00:03:17
Speaker 1: But they made points. Now this is where and I know it was the guy girl thing, but the guys were making, come on robes a decent point here that it got They were shocked and upset when they heard his name called. He was going to get voted out. When they heard their logic for it, they really started spiraling because it doesn't make any It really doesn't make I still don't understand.
00:03:41
Speaker 3: Do you think that.
00:03:42
Speaker 2: The girls regretted their decision and just tried to defend it because they felt bad about it.
00:03:47
Speaker 1: That's why the the tease was what it was and why there was a little fighting at the beginning of this episode. Bro If they immediately got mad at the guys for just being bothered that their boy was leaving, this is where relationship stuff comes in. Just the fact that they showed emotion at what the women had done resulted in the women getting mad at them for showing that emotion. What do we do with that?
00:04:12
Speaker 3: Well, isn't that a lot of our fights?
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Speaker 1: All of them, every single one of them. Every fight is that thing. So I robes so break it down when you can step back from a distance. They made a decision that upset the Fellas. Now the Fellaws could have you could say bad reason, let's not even go that far. But just them getting upset, Why can that not be listened to?
00:04:39
Speaker 3: Because they viewed it immediately as being.
00:04:44
Speaker 2: Disloyal, okay, who the women felt like the men attacking them or questioning their decision felt like a breach of trust.
00:04:52
Speaker 1: Hey, let me a breach of trust to be upset by a decision you made. See again, this is how there's a.
00:04:58
Speaker 2: Way disrespected, like respect our decision, respect how we came about this choice.
00:05:02
Speaker 1: This is what I'm saying. And there it is. And this is where that's very much a woman's response and your response when we're having these fights. You still won't stop and let the guys be upset. You just came back and said, well, yeah, we'll said you didn't respect. It's a respect thing. Robes. You won't let them even have an emotional reaction to their boy leaving, and you're nodding it. Yep, that's right.
00:05:30
Speaker 3: It's what we all saw play out.
00:05:32
Speaker 1: It's a weird thing to watch, Robes. This is fascinating relationship stuff.
00:05:35
Speaker 2: It is, and it's funny. It does seem to be a I don't know what it is if it's socially how we're conditioned, if it's just a girl and a guy thing, a Venus and Mars thing. I did think the guys were able to bring the temperature down really well. I was impressed. They just said, okay, let's hug it out and they just moved on. Some things probably will never be agreed upon.
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Speaker 1: And that's but I'm saying, Robes that there was a conversation that didn't need to explode into brief anger. But if that been outside in the real worldhere, the couple has been together for two years, and that kind of like, that's a different conversation. You made a decision that hurt me. It upset me, and I'm upset about it, and I.
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Speaker 3: Don't like you're upset that you're upset about it.
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Speaker 1: That's the thing when someone does that man or woman said I'm upset by something you just did. Don't explain what you did, don't defend. That is absolutely listen to why somebody is hurt. Just listen. Oh, I love it.
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Speaker 2: And then from there I loved how Corbin then explained to Kenzie because he found out because he was up on the chopping block too, so he wasn't a part of the decision, but he found out later that the boys were about to throw Kenzie off the island for the exact same reason that the girls decided to Gabe, and that's kind of legit.
00:07:04
Speaker 1: They had numbers like you kiss four guys, he only kissed two. Like they were calling her on her stuff, Robes. That's a good point.
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Speaker 3: It was a good point, and she did not concede it.
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Speaker 1: Nope, she defended and deflected. You love saying that, and it's so true what you all If you all don't know that, Robes, I don't know where you got it, and you but you've been saying it to me since I've known you. But it's what people do oftentimes and pay attention to it in a fight, defend and deflect. If you say something to someone and their first thing is to defend and then deflect, you know you're well, that's.
00:07:39
Speaker 3: Not really fair. That's not what I did. But you know what you did.
00:07:42
Speaker 1: You did this defend and deflect sincere did it last episode, right, Well you did bad stuff too.
00:07:48
Speaker 3: You're no angel.
00:07:50
Speaker 1: Defend and deflect.
00:07:51
Speaker 3: It is human nature.
00:07:53
Speaker 1: But keep it in your pocket so you'll notice when you do it and other people defend and deflect.
00:07:58
Speaker 3: It absolutely, But I did appreciate.
00:08:01
Speaker 2: I thought it was so interesting and I actually thought it was good that that Corbyn told Kenzie like, I don't.
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Speaker 3: I didn't feel like that was gossipy.
00:08:09
Speaker 2: I felt like he wanted to let her know that, Hey, your behavior was noticed as well, and you almost got kicked off, kicked out of the villa.
00:08:18
Speaker 1: And I was, I guess I was surprised, and maybe, as I'm saying, I was like, oh, are you surprised? So she kind of really defended herself in that in a not a mature way. She was you could tell you she's like, I'm.
00:08:32
Speaker 2: Rusty, I'm not lustful, like she like that was the distinction. And I'm sorry, I just heard you say you were horny three times in the last episode, So I don't know if that's not lustful, I.
00:08:42
Speaker 3: Don't know what is.
00:08:44
Speaker 1: Why do I know the last time she had sex, I shouldn't she let us all know she's lustful.
00:08:50
Speaker 2: So I think that's so funny that she immediately said I'm not lustful.
00:08:54
Speaker 3: So I also thought Corbyn handled that well as well.
00:08:56
Speaker 2: Instead of continuing, he just said, babe, don't get defensive, Babe, don't get defensive, and he just said, I'm just explaining where their heads were, please don't take it so personally. So and then he moved on and.
00:09:10
Speaker 1: That was Corbyn's best moment since he's been on the show. Corven, well done. He I think it was necessarily necessary, and I think it was I think it was kind to tell her that I do too. He wasn't betraying the boys at all. Agreed that he showed me a lot and I have really appreciated Corbyn and how he handled that moment.
00:09:30
Speaker 2: He grew on me because I thought he was honest, but he was kind I like, and what he was saying was hard to hear, if not even though it was true, it was hard to hear, and he but he I hate the idea of someone managing someone else, but I do think when you're in a couple with someone, you're in a relationship with someone, there has to be some level of managing someone else's feelings to the extent that even if you know it's a hard thing to hear, still also saying, but I love you, and I just thought you needed to know this. I know he didn't say I love you because they're not in love, but he writes a sentiment.
00:10:02
Speaker 1: He recognized immediately that it wasn't being received well, and he cut his losses.
00:10:09
Speaker 3: That's a good way to put it.
00:10:10
Speaker 1: Okay, Corbyn, that was well, really well done. I was waiting for him to have a good moment, Like I like that moment a lot.
00:10:17
Speaker 2: Yes, And so we were like really into it and we were just talking about how wonderful it's been not to have too many or too much kissing.
00:10:25
Speaker 3: And then we get another challenge.
00:10:28
Speaker 1: What was it called the Swords and the Kings and the Queens, and everyone gets to it's so funny.
00:10:32
Speaker 2: It's like these are grown ass adults and they're getting to play dress up and it's super.
00:10:36
Speaker 3: Exciting to all of them. So they were in princess costumes and the men were in like prince costumes and they looked idiotic, but somehow they were all excited about it because they're just that bored.
00:10:48
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right, man. When a text message comes in, it is the biggest moment ever.
00:10:53
Speaker 2: Oh my god. It's like the door dash delivery when you're starving. It's like the same exact reaction.
00:10:59
Speaker 1: It's a lot of sitting around. Oh, I don't give them give him a Nintendo.
00:11:05
Speaker 2: They don't even have alcohol or anything to give them something.
00:11:08
Speaker 1: Man.
00:11:09
Speaker 3: I mean that's a good thing. Can you imagine if they let them drink.
00:11:11
Speaker 1: Sat around and oh, I watched that.
00:11:14
Speaker 3: It's one drink a night or two drinks a night. I think it's two drinks a night. I think that's so smart.
00:11:19
Speaker 2: But yes, even without any liquid courage, we got to see the Islanders licking each other's toes, sucking toes, going from one toe to the next. Some of the men licked legs. It was repulsive and even Casey acknowledged it was disgusting. I think he did say that, but Bryce was so weirdly into it.
00:11:39
Speaker 1: But the kissing came back, just swapping. I don't why are they doing that now everybody's coupled up, Why are you kissing?
00:11:47
Speaker 3: Because they want drama.
00:11:48
Speaker 2: The one guy gets to pick who the other guy who's blindfold kisses whoever's girl?
00:11:54
Speaker 3: And yes, and it did create drama. It did create drama.
00:11:58
Speaker 2: Because you all so have these which islander basically isn't being true to his princess or at which king? And of course they picked Casey and we knew where this was heading. So when we come back, we'll tell you about the yes powder keg that is brewing between Casey and Anaya. This one, I think is going to be explosive.
00:12:23
Speaker 1: And and and.
00:12:31
Speaker 2: Welcome back everyone to our Love Island edition of Amy and TJ. And the episode fifteen ended with Trinity stir in the pot with Anaya after she had just heard that Casey possibly wasn't being true to his feelings once again. Now she's all in her head spiraling and Trinity just added gasoline to the fire.
00:12:57
Speaker 1: Why why does she tell her this? She?
00:12:59
Speaker 2: I do think Trinity's a nice person. I do think she was trying to let her friend know what she might be up against with case She might be trying to protect her and make sure that yes, when either new bombshells come in or they have those guys walk into the villa when the boys go to Casa Moore, Maybe she's trying to make sure her girl keeps her options.
00:13:22
Speaker 1: Open, is my question. So Casey voted for Soul or made an argument for Soul to stay yes.
00:13:30
Speaker 3: And he was the only one of the boys who wanted Soul to stay.
00:13:33
Speaker 1: Okay, So let me ask you, just as an observer, is that a problem? Is that an issue? Did Casey do wrong? I guess what is? What? Do you see the problem in what Casey did?
00:13:50
Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with what Casey did. If he wanted to keep someone there because he thought she deserved a fair shake, and maybe he thought he wanted a fair shake with her, that's what the game is all. But I also think that Anaya had every reason to feel upset about that.
00:14:04
Speaker 1: Oh there it is. There it is, and that's fine. So this is going to once again cause they.
00:14:09
Speaker 2: Have had too many of the same arguments about the same girl and about his wanting to write they're.
00:14:16
Speaker 1: Going to break up now that she's gone.
00:14:18
Speaker 2: I could see that happening, honestly, yes, because she feels like she can't trust him, and she's going to say the next time someone walks in a light skinned girl, I'm going to be on the chopping block.
00:14:26
Speaker 1: Okay, this is my prediction for the show. And if I use polymarket or Calshi or whatever, I would bet on this. Okay, They're going to send some light skinned girls Casey's.
00:14:37
Speaker 2: Way because they just heard that is going to ramp up the drama significantly, or at least it casts el Moore. That's next week, right, Yeah, there will be some light skin girls that.
00:14:48
Speaker 1: Man, they are recruiting them now who because that's that's and the folks that don't know they've they've touched on this a little bit. But this is important and it is relevant, and this is where Anaya needs to be listened to and hugged to a certain degree. Yes, people like her, even the water she twenty whatever, but her and women who in their eighties black women dealt with the same thing, this idea of lighter, wider skin is the standard of beauty or longer and straighter hair is a standard of beauty. And so she's dealt with this her entire life. And it's a thing in the black community. Colorism. Even jokes about the light skinned ones get to stay in the house with Massa and the dog skin has got to be in the field with the Yeah, that's a thing, but that is it is, and even in society that lighter skin black folks have better advantages in business and whatnot because we seem to blend or lighter that way. It's just a thing. So you even said she might be soul might be the most stunning person who has set foot on Love Island this season. Casey black strong brother with a dark skinned sister who he has said in early comments, right, you remember him saying complimenting her on her dark She almost cried.
00:16:10
Speaker 2: She did almost cry about it, and Trinity talked about it again this episode what dark skinned women face.
00:16:15
Speaker 1: So this light skinned stunner comes in that it seems like your guy can't get off his mind. There's more there than just some Casa Amore and Love Island bullshit. There's some history there. There's some real hurt and real life experience. I'm sure she has had that came to fruition in front of all of us.
00:16:38
Speaker 2: And look, it's no matter whether I know there are times you've not agreed with an Eya even like man, come on, she's overreacting or she's being really insecure in this moment, but I do think that's so important to point that out. Yes, she is an authentic person and she is so likable. I mean, I don't know what the polling is showing, but everyone we've talked to, everybody loves an Eye.
00:17:00
Speaker 1: Yeah. I wish they could. I wish they could be calm. I wish they could have a quiet moment because the stuff that's been happening, the back and forth is and.
00:17:09
Speaker 3: It's gonna blow because anyway.
00:17:11
Speaker 1: Where they gonna send in. Oh, they're gonna send.
00:17:13
Speaker 2: In Casey's Casey is I think at this point out he's pissed, like he is done and she kind of is too, So I am. I am not feeling like at one point we thought they might win.
00:17:25
Speaker 3: I do not.
00:17:26
Speaker 1: Their last steps are so small. They just just a little that word going there, or that sentence not being said, or just a little, and they would be golden.
00:17:37
Speaker 2: Those love letters put them right back on track. And then now we got problems.
00:17:41
Speaker 1: Going on and still is a problem.
00:17:43
Speaker 2: See this is why, as disgusting as those challenges are, they always bring the drama. And speaking of disgusting challenges, you reference this. Yes, the New York Times did an entire article called this season of Love Island USA is giving fans.
00:17:59
Speaker 1: The ick ding ding ding ding.
00:18:01
Speaker 2: And we were waiting for this because we knew this was coming. But they just said that basically, yes, producers have absolutely upped the ante. And whereas challenges before used to be more about getting to know people in intimate questions, they still have that, but it didn't have women in lingerie blindfolded with handcuffs roves.
00:18:24
Speaker 1: I forgot. Those challenges just made you uncomfortable.
00:18:28
Speaker 3: Correct, well, maybe there was a kiss at the end, but nothing.
00:18:30
Speaker 2: We're not seeing people straddling others, slapping butts and with the and I sound so old and prudish, but these girls have g strings on to the point where we're I just they look like naked bodies, like it's bizarre, and they're literally just rubbing up all over each other kissing. It's going into private rooms to kiss strangers. The clip on mics aren't muted. People are asking for the volume to be turned down. They even said the British version did the same thing and had this upped up sexual atmosphere, and that fans were saying, please, please, at the very least, can you turn the audio off.
00:19:06
Speaker 3: We don't want to hear the sloppy kisses. It's gross.
00:19:11
Speaker 1: It kind of is.
00:19:12
Speaker 3: It is gross.
00:19:13
Speaker 1: I just don't know who this appeals. It's not sexy. But yeah, they brought it back. They've had a few episodes where we seem to escape that.
00:19:23
Speaker 2: I do think that hopefully they will kind of dial it back a little bit, like people are on TikTok or saying it's literally just like, hey, can we get you guys to be as nasty and as sexual as possible. The challenges are sexual in nature and that did not happen before. So I feel like, especially when they don't know each other, it's don't you think about when now that you are invested in certain couple's relationships, it's less gross to watch them kiss, but it's gross to watch complete strangers completely make out in such an intimate way when there's no level of intimacy. It's disgusting. But by the way, this season so far breaking Peacock viewership records.
00:20:07
Speaker 1: I say what you want, you all are watching.
00:20:10
Speaker 3: And that, and we are watching Love Island USA.
00:20:14
Speaker 2: Season eight is Peacock's most watched TV debut ever, with twenty three percent of viewership on phones and tablets.
00:20:23
Speaker 3: That was just after the first episode.
00:20:25
Speaker 2: But they are doing gangbusters, and to think people are watching it wherever they are, like with their phones on the subway.
00:20:33
Speaker 3: It just may be at work.
00:20:35
Speaker 2: But this thing is not going away, and unfortunately, perhaps neither is the ick factor.
00:20:43
Speaker 1: I hate the eck and we do. We fast forward through these things. We skip that part of these shows, but ropes. We have been on the road since last Thursday throughout Europe. We have a VPN. We have watched and kept up with Loveland as we have bounced from Amsterdam to Belgium to France to Ireland. People are watching. We're hooked. People are hooked, and so no matter how much we complain, they can always point back to you. It. It's all the biggest fans we have.
00:21:19
Speaker 2: Shut up, but it is fun and we'll get through the ick factor to actually get to witness and watch and learn from the relationship lessons that are there in each and every episode. So I guess tonight they've got the after Sun party, So we're not that into that as much.
00:21:37
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know, Maybe we'll.
00:21:39
Speaker 2: Tune it in, but we're here for Sunday night to watch what happens between Casey and Anaya the end. And with that, everyone, we always appreciate you listening to us. I may be revoc alongside TJ.
00:21:52
Speaker 3: Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.
00:22:00
Speaker 1: Not two things