July 20, 2026
Lindsay Clancy Triple Murder Trial: Mom Who Strangled Young Kids, Says Voice Told Her To Do It
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RSS Feed It’s day one of the highly anticipated murder trial of a 35-year-old labor and delivery nurse, charged with the strangling deaths of her three young children. The defense says Massachusetts mom Lindsay Clancy was suffering from postpartum depression and was actively seeking treatment for it when the unthinkable happened. The prosecution claims the young mother acted with “deliberate, premeditated and extreme atrocity and cruelty” when she killed her 5-year-old, 3-year-old and 8-month-old children after sending her husband out to get take out dinner for the family.
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00:00:02
Speaker 1: Hey, that folks. It is Monday, July twentieth, and today a trial gets underway or a woman accused of doing the unthinkable, a woman accused of killing her three young children, but she has pleaded not guilty. What they have to decide now not if the kids died by her hand, but if she was criminally legally responsible or was it something that they call postpartum psychosis. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Trial expected to go about two months. Wrote, Every single day of this one is going to be fascinating.
00:00:37
Speaker 2: It really is, because we are talking about You said unthinkable, and that really is the way to describe it. This is a thirty five year old Massachusetts mom who was a labor and delivery nurse. This was a woman, by all accounts, including from her own husband and the father of these three young children, as a wonderful mother, an incredible nurse, and a loving wife. How does a woman described like that and beloved by so many people, how does she wind up strangling her three young children to death on a January morning back in twenty twenty three.
00:01:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, we say young children. One of them's under a year old. And so when we say, unthinkable here, this is this is one of those where you I'm willing to listen to someone that has to make an argument. This is something that people just don't do. It's just this is against everything in a mom's nature. I know there's been some horrible stories over the years robes, and I know there have been some mothers that maybe just have their reasons for behaving badly. But when we hear some stories like this, and there have been high profile ones, we also hear about something was going on that caused these women, like this is an ongoing deterioration of this woman and it seemed like this didn't have to happen.
00:01:52
Speaker 2: Yes, and it does seem from what we've heard, and we're going to hear all about this in this trial. But there is documentation of this young mother, this Lindsay Clancy, who had previous episodes of postpartum depression and was actively seeking treatment for it, so.
00:02:11
Speaker 1: Voluntarily, she was voluntarily trying to get help.
00:02:14
Speaker 2: She knew she was in trouble. She's a nurse, for God's sakes, she works in the labor and delivery department. She understands this more than most, and yet she still was suffering from it and seemingly could not find a remedy, and in some cases there is an argument by her defense that she was over medicated for it.
00:02:32
Speaker 3: But this is just to give you an idea.
00:02:34
Speaker 2: Jury selection is actually taking place as we are recording this. The judge said that he plans to seat eighteen jurors, so they're going to have six alternates because here the defense attorney said this. He said, this case ranks for him, and he's defending her as the most emotionally disturbing and challenging case he's ever had, and he predicts it will have a significant impact on jurors. Maybe that's why they are taking the precaution. I don't know if it's typical, but I just thought that was interesting. Eighteen jurors they are going to try and seat over the next day or two to prepare for this. Yes, what is going to be a disturbing trial to follow and to hear and to certainly have to make.
00:03:16
Speaker 3: A ruling on.
00:03:17
Speaker 1: And you assume there'll be majority parents possibly maybe even grandparents, maybe even have some educators, you might have some caregivers. So yeah, this is all the details here. We don't have to sit in the courtroom and just reading about what happened in this case is yeah, yeah, it'll shake you and anybody, but especially if you have kids, especially have young kids, have to be a ground young kids at all. This it make the hair stand up on the back of your head.
00:03:48
Speaker 3: It does.
00:03:48
Speaker 2: I hated, and I know everybody hated to read about what the prosecution is claiming happened that day. They claim that she carefully planned the murders of her five year old daughter named Cora, her three year old dawson, and her eight month old Callen. They say she choked each of her children with resistance bands, you know those bands that you have in the home for a home gim. She used those bands, according to prosecutors, to choke her children to death. And they claim that she in terms of the premeditative part of this, she actually ordered takeout and then asked her husband to go pick it up and then mapped out. Like they claim she used a mapping app to follow her husband to make sure she'd have enough time to do all that she planned to do.
00:04:42
Speaker 1: All these things I believe they can document and are true. I don't think the defense is necessarily pushing back on her being the one that is responsible for the act.
00:04:50
Speaker 3: It's just a matter of the why exactly.
00:04:53
Speaker 2: And by the way, I also want to point out she in accordance to her plan, and the defense obviously this is a part of their defense. She cut her own risks and neck in an attempt to kill herself, jumped from a third story window, and that is where her husband found her, and she has traumatic spinal cord injuries. Her lawyer says she cannot walk to this day because of what she did to.
00:05:17
Speaker 3: Herself after she did that to her children.
00:05:20
Speaker 2: So the question is was this a premeditative act of first degree murder? Or is she the victim of an illness that we don't fully understand?
00:05:30
Speaker 1: Can both of those things be true?
00:05:32
Speaker 2: Yes? Right?
00:05:32
Speaker 1: Can't we be so confused? Just because there was some premeditation or some planning, or some seeming thought in the plan doesn't mean it wasn't being conducted by a woman who wasn't in control of her own wasn't in good correct?
00:05:47
Speaker 3: Correct?
00:05:48
Speaker 1: I think I assume that the defense is saying, excuse me, the prosecution doesn't think that's the case. I'd like to hear them push back on what is I mean that there are lawsuits this document, they have sued for the treatment because of the treatment she's gotten. I'm not sure what the prosecution is going to say to all that they're essentially going to have to say. All that is BS.
00:06:10
Speaker 2: I actually think in this case, I mean, look again, we're not in the courtroom, and this is going to be this could be precedent setting in a lot of ways. But yes, from what we've already heard from the defense based on these lawsuits, that yes, she was in a documented mental health crisis, that she was over medicated for a severe postpartum mental illness. They described she was on and had been prescribed more than a dozen medications. And I guarantee you some of these names. I have taken some of these drugs, and I think everyone's going to know what we're talking about. Ambient klonopin, vallium, prozac, adavan, Zoloft, and sarah Quell. All of those drugs she was prescribed over a period of a few months. And then right before these killings, she admitted herself to a day program. Then she admitted herself to a psychiatric hospital for five days. I mean, she was she was seeking help, She knew she was in trouble.
00:07:07
Speaker 1: I don't know how. I don't know what was going on there. I don't know if they were prescribed at different times. Just try this one this week and this when that week. But if those things are overlapping, even some one of those will make you comatose. Uh. I don't know how that drug cocktail was put together. Yeah, I was.
00:07:23
Speaker 2: I was diagnosed with at I was diagnosed, I was diagnosed with cancer. I was prescribed at a van to help with anxiety, to help with sleep.
00:07:32
Speaker 3: That is a powerful drug.
00:07:33
Speaker 2: I cannot imagine adding valium, ambian prozags zola. They said that these were all prescribed over a period of several months. Yes, we don't know in what order and what the instructions were, but clearly that is disturbing. And she had experienced what she described as anxiety after the births of her first two kids, and so when she had this after she had her third one callum, she recognized the symptoms, but they did seem, according to her, more severe than they had in the past. I don't know if anyone could have anticipated what was going to happen next.
00:08:08
Speaker 3: That's the scary thing.
00:08:11
Speaker 1: Again, this is not an insanity defense they're going after, they're using, they are presenting robes this idea because we haven't gotten into it yet. She started hearing voices. Should I say voices are just a singing male voice? She said, she hears a voice that starts giving her direction and telling it a warning about her children suffering robes postpartum psychosis that is not one I'm familiar with.
00:08:43
Speaker 2: No I am not either, and maybe to even help give some perspective her husband, four days after this, Murders said he obviously had been witness all of this. He said, I want to ask all of you that you find it deep within yourself to forgive Lindsey as I have.
00:08:59
Speaker 3: The real Lindsay.
00:09:00
Speaker 2: The real Lindsay, he says, was generously loving and carrying towards everyone, me, our kids, family friends, and her patients. The very fibers of her soul are loving. All I wish for her now is that she can somehow find peace for her own husband, who described their wonderful marriage her as a wonderful mom. If he could say that four days afterwards, maybe that gives us a little insight into what he was witnessing, as he too believes his wife was suffering from a little known and little studied I guess it's a severe case of postpartum depression called post partum psychosis. When we come back, we're going to tell you that postpartum psych psychosis defense has worked before in a very famous case, and it has some growing legal backing. Welcome back, everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ. We are covering day one of the Lindsay Clancy triple murder trial that is taking place in Massachusetts right now. They are trying to seat a jury of eighteen six alternates to determine whether or not Lindsey Clancy is guilty of first degree murder after she's accused of strangling her three young children. The defense is that this was not her this was her illness, this was postpartum psychosis. And you know who also argued that about twenty years ago, Andrea Yates, that Texas mom who drowned her five children, and she was found not guilty. But that was really the first time, and I can't remember another time where we've heard of that condition postpartum psychosis.
00:10:53
Speaker 1: No, I'm not familiar at all. If it's obviously it's worked before, it's a thing a jury recognize and the medical community has recognized it. It's just may if it's this, we can't have I mean, I assume this is so rare that it comes up, even rare that it comes up and it has a result like we're seeing. But my goodness, I would love to hear more. And I hope the right attention is being paid to it. And maybe this should be something that rises to the level and continues to get headlines and attention to where people right pay attention to it and recognize some signs of it and recognize when people need help. And if they don't get that help, man, we can have some dire consequences. Yes, it's worth continuing to talk about.
00:11:38
Speaker 2: You just nailed it right there, because part of the problem with this. Yes it's rare, and yes it's severe, but it carries with it if you have postpartum psychosis, it carries what they call a high risk of suicide and infanticide, which is hard to even say, but yes, killing a young child and what you just talked about, babe, is exactly the issue.
00:12:01
Speaker 3: They say.
00:12:02
Speaker 2: Very few women, even among this rare group, ever share their experiences or share what it was like to undergo it because of the public taboo. Any woman who experiences anything other than maternal bliss is criticized, is put into a negative category. She's not given help, she's given shame. And so if you aren't supported and you aren't considered or this isn't considered an illness, but it's considered something shameful. Yet people aren't going to come forward, they're not going to talk about it, and help isn't going to be made available.
00:12:38
Speaker 3: That is a huge part of this problem.
00:12:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, shame for I don't know women struggle. You hear women talk about it and friends talk about it in private moments, quite honestly, But you couldn't dare go into mixed company and a dinner party and dare suggest you don't like your kid, or you had a tough.
00:12:56
Speaker 3: Time at home, or you wanted to actually kill your kid.
00:12:58
Speaker 1: Yes, why that you're struggle or even sometimes you're supposed to be a happy pregnant lady. You won't talk about this all the time, like you can't stay Oh you look so beautiful, Yeah, I just swam. You can't give an honest ancey, you're supposed to be glowing and all of this so true.
00:13:12
Speaker 2: There's a lot of pressure and so that adds to the fact that people haven't studied it, they don't understand it, and they don't understand it as an illness. Now this is I think this is fascinating. Illinois is the first and only state in this country. It happened in twenty eighteen. They actually passed a law making postpartum illness basically a mitigating factor when you sentence a woman, a mother who's been charged with some sort of violence against her children, if she had postpartum depression, if she had postpartum psychosis. It is now law for them juries judges to consider that when coming up with the sentencing, and they also push rehabilitation or some sort of recognition of the mental health issue before punishing the woman. So they are the only state now. Interestingly, this trial is taking place in Massachusetts. They are the only other state. They have a bill currently right now, I believe was introduced in the fall. It's still kind of languishing right now. But if it were to pass, certainly given the spotlight on this trial in that state, it would make it the second state in the country to consider that. Not sure that will happen in time for sentencing with this young mom but certainly it's of note that this is something that at least one state has done. In several countries, by the way, around the world have passed laws based on this illness that we just don't.
00:14:33
Speaker 3: Talk that much about in this country.
00:14:35
Speaker 1: But again, it's the law requires the judge to consider it. Is that correct?
00:14:39
Speaker 2: Yes, in the state of Illinois only so yes, And that would seem if you can prove look if somehow, and that would be if she were to be found guilty. But if she were to be found not guilty, obviously all bets are off.
00:14:53
Speaker 3: But if she were to be.
00:14:53
Speaker 2: Found guilty right now in the state of Massachusetts, a judge does not have to consider a jury does not have consider the mitigating factors by law. Don't know what this individual judge might order or what the jury instructions could be if there was a guilty verdict.
00:15:08
Speaker 1: In this case, the law is just telling the judge in Illinois, give her a break. That's sit, just give her a break. She was going through something when this happened.
00:15:19
Speaker 3: Yes, break.
00:15:20
Speaker 2: So we certainly saw what happened in Texas with Andrea Yates. All eyes will be on this Massachusetts courtroom to see what happens to Lindsay Clancy. But this is certainly going to be a tough and a tall order for those jurors going through six to eight weeks of this trial of really truly an unthinkable tragedy that happened to the Clancy family. We'll keep our eye on it, but wanted to put it on your radar. Everyone.
00:15:42
Speaker 3: We always appreciate you listening to us. I meany roboch alongside TJ. Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 1: Hey, that folks. It is Monday, July twentieth, and today a trial gets underway or a woman accused of doing the unthinkable, a woman accused of killing her three young children, but she has pleaded not guilty. What they have to decide now not if the kids died by her hand, but if she was criminally legally responsible or was it something that they call postpartum psychosis. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Trial expected to go about two months. Wrote, Every single day of this one is going to be fascinating.
00:00:37
Speaker 2: It really is, because we are talking about You said unthinkable, and that really is the way to describe it. This is a thirty five year old Massachusetts mom who was a labor and delivery nurse. This was a woman, by all accounts, including from her own husband and the father of these three young children, as a wonderful mother, an incredible nurse, and a loving wife. How does a woman described like that and beloved by so many people, how does she wind up strangling her three young children to death on a January morning back in twenty twenty three.
00:01:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, we say young children. One of them's under a year old. And so when we say, unthinkable here, this is this is one of those where you I'm willing to listen to someone that has to make an argument. This is something that people just don't do. It's just this is against everything in a mom's nature. I know there's been some horrible stories over the years robes, and I know there have been some mothers that maybe just have their reasons for behaving badly. But when we hear some stories like this, and there have been high profile ones, we also hear about something was going on that caused these women, like this is an ongoing deterioration of this woman and it seemed like this didn't have to happen.
00:01:52
Speaker 2: Yes, and it does seem from what we've heard, and we're going to hear all about this in this trial. But there is documentation of this young mother, this Lindsay Clancy, who had previous episodes of postpartum depression and was actively seeking treatment for it, so.
00:02:11
Speaker 1: Voluntarily, she was voluntarily trying to get help.
00:02:14
Speaker 2: She knew she was in trouble. She's a nurse, for God's sakes, she works in the labor and delivery department. She understands this more than most, and yet she still was suffering from it and seemingly could not find a remedy, and in some cases there is an argument by her defense that she was over medicated for it.
00:02:32
Speaker 3: But this is just to give you an idea.
00:02:34
Speaker 2: Jury selection is actually taking place as we are recording this. The judge said that he plans to seat eighteen jurors, so they're going to have six alternates because here the defense attorney said this. He said, this case ranks for him, and he's defending her as the most emotionally disturbing and challenging case he's ever had, and he predicts it will have a significant impact on jurors. Maybe that's why they are taking the precaution. I don't know if it's typical, but I just thought that was interesting. Eighteen jurors they are going to try and seat over the next day or two to prepare for this. Yes, what is going to be a disturbing trial to follow and to hear and to certainly have to make.
00:03:16
Speaker 3: A ruling on.
00:03:17
Speaker 1: And you assume there'll be majority parents possibly maybe even grandparents, maybe even have some educators, you might have some caregivers. So yeah, this is all the details here. We don't have to sit in the courtroom and just reading about what happened in this case is yeah, yeah, it'll shake you and anybody, but especially if you have kids, especially have young kids, have to be a ground young kids at all. This it make the hair stand up on the back of your head.
00:03:48
Speaker 3: It does.
00:03:48
Speaker 2: I hated, and I know everybody hated to read about what the prosecution is claiming happened that day. They claim that she carefully planned the murders of her five year old daughter named Cora, her three year old dawson, and her eight month old Callen. They say she choked each of her children with resistance bands, you know those bands that you have in the home for a home gim. She used those bands, according to prosecutors, to choke her children to death. And they claim that she in terms of the premeditative part of this, she actually ordered takeout and then asked her husband to go pick it up and then mapped out. Like they claim she used a mapping app to follow her husband to make sure she'd have enough time to do all that she planned to do.
00:04:42
Speaker 1: All these things I believe they can document and are true. I don't think the defense is necessarily pushing back on her being the one that is responsible for the act.
00:04:50
Speaker 3: It's just a matter of the why exactly.
00:04:53
Speaker 2: And by the way, I also want to point out she in accordance to her plan, and the defense obviously this is a part of their defense. She cut her own risks and neck in an attempt to kill herself, jumped from a third story window, and that is where her husband found her, and she has traumatic spinal cord injuries. Her lawyer says she cannot walk to this day because of what she did to.
00:05:17
Speaker 3: Herself after she did that to her children.
00:05:20
Speaker 2: So the question is was this a premeditative act of first degree murder? Or is she the victim of an illness that we don't fully understand?
00:05:30
Speaker 1: Can both of those things be true?
00:05:32
Speaker 2: Yes? Right?
00:05:32
Speaker 1: Can't we be so confused? Just because there was some premeditation or some planning, or some seeming thought in the plan doesn't mean it wasn't being conducted by a woman who wasn't in control of her own wasn't in good correct?
00:05:47
Speaker 3: Correct?
00:05:48
Speaker 1: I think I assume that the defense is saying, excuse me, the prosecution doesn't think that's the case. I'd like to hear them push back on what is I mean that there are lawsuits this document, they have sued for the treatment because of the treatment she's gotten. I'm not sure what the prosecution is going to say to all that they're essentially going to have to say. All that is BS.
00:06:10
Speaker 2: I actually think in this case, I mean, look again, we're not in the courtroom, and this is going to be this could be precedent setting in a lot of ways. But yes, from what we've already heard from the defense based on these lawsuits, that yes, she was in a documented mental health crisis, that she was over medicated for a severe postpartum mental illness. They described she was on and had been prescribed more than a dozen medications. And I guarantee you some of these names. I have taken some of these drugs, and I think everyone's going to know what we're talking about. Ambient klonopin, vallium, prozac, adavan, Zoloft, and sarah Quell. All of those drugs she was prescribed over a period of a few months. And then right before these killings, she admitted herself to a day program. Then she admitted herself to a psychiatric hospital for five days. I mean, she was she was seeking help, She knew she was in trouble.
00:07:07
Speaker 1: I don't know how. I don't know what was going on there. I don't know if they were prescribed at different times. Just try this one this week and this when that week. But if those things are overlapping, even some one of those will make you comatose. Uh. I don't know how that drug cocktail was put together. Yeah, I was.
00:07:23
Speaker 2: I was diagnosed with at I was diagnosed, I was diagnosed with cancer. I was prescribed at a van to help with anxiety, to help with sleep.
00:07:32
Speaker 3: That is a powerful drug.
00:07:33
Speaker 2: I cannot imagine adding valium, ambian prozags zola. They said that these were all prescribed over a period of several months. Yes, we don't know in what order and what the instructions were, but clearly that is disturbing. And she had experienced what she described as anxiety after the births of her first two kids, and so when she had this after she had her third one callum, she recognized the symptoms, but they did seem, according to her, more severe than they had in the past. I don't know if anyone could have anticipated what was going to happen next.
00:08:08
Speaker 3: That's the scary thing.
00:08:11
Speaker 1: Again, this is not an insanity defense they're going after, they're using, they are presenting robes this idea because we haven't gotten into it yet. She started hearing voices. Should I say voices are just a singing male voice? She said, she hears a voice that starts giving her direction and telling it a warning about her children suffering robes postpartum psychosis that is not one I'm familiar with.
00:08:43
Speaker 2: No I am not either, and maybe to even help give some perspective her husband, four days after this, Murders said he obviously had been witness all of this. He said, I want to ask all of you that you find it deep within yourself to forgive Lindsey as I have.
00:08:59
Speaker 3: The real Lindsay.
00:09:00
Speaker 2: The real Lindsay, he says, was generously loving and carrying towards everyone, me, our kids, family friends, and her patients. The very fibers of her soul are loving. All I wish for her now is that she can somehow find peace for her own husband, who described their wonderful marriage her as a wonderful mom. If he could say that four days afterwards, maybe that gives us a little insight into what he was witnessing, as he too believes his wife was suffering from a little known and little studied I guess it's a severe case of postpartum depression called post partum psychosis. When we come back, we're going to tell you that postpartum psych psychosis defense has worked before in a very famous case, and it has some growing legal backing. Welcome back, everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ. We are covering day one of the Lindsay Clancy triple murder trial that is taking place in Massachusetts right now. They are trying to seat a jury of eighteen six alternates to determine whether or not Lindsey Clancy is guilty of first degree murder after she's accused of strangling her three young children. The defense is that this was not her this was her illness, this was postpartum psychosis. And you know who also argued that about twenty years ago, Andrea Yates, that Texas mom who drowned her five children, and she was found not guilty. But that was really the first time, and I can't remember another time where we've heard of that condition postpartum psychosis.
00:10:53
Speaker 1: No, I'm not familiar at all. If it's obviously it's worked before, it's a thing a jury recognize and the medical community has recognized it. It's just may if it's this, we can't have I mean, I assume this is so rare that it comes up, even rare that it comes up and it has a result like we're seeing. But my goodness, I would love to hear more. And I hope the right attention is being paid to it. And maybe this should be something that rises to the level and continues to get headlines and attention to where people right pay attention to it and recognize some signs of it and recognize when people need help. And if they don't get that help, man, we can have some dire consequences. Yes, it's worth continuing to talk about.
00:11:38
Speaker 2: You just nailed it right there, because part of the problem with this. Yes it's rare, and yes it's severe, but it carries with it if you have postpartum psychosis, it carries what they call a high risk of suicide and infanticide, which is hard to even say, but yes, killing a young child and what you just talked about, babe, is exactly the issue.
00:12:01
Speaker 3: They say.
00:12:02
Speaker 2: Very few women, even among this rare group, ever share their experiences or share what it was like to undergo it because of the public taboo. Any woman who experiences anything other than maternal bliss is criticized, is put into a negative category. She's not given help, she's given shame. And so if you aren't supported and you aren't considered or this isn't considered an illness, but it's considered something shameful. Yet people aren't going to come forward, they're not going to talk about it, and help isn't going to be made available.
00:12:38
Speaker 3: That is a huge part of this problem.
00:12:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, shame for I don't know women struggle. You hear women talk about it and friends talk about it in private moments, quite honestly, But you couldn't dare go into mixed company and a dinner party and dare suggest you don't like your kid, or you had a tough.
00:12:56
Speaker 3: Time at home, or you wanted to actually kill your kid.
00:12:58
Speaker 1: Yes, why that you're struggle or even sometimes you're supposed to be a happy pregnant lady. You won't talk about this all the time, like you can't stay Oh you look so beautiful, Yeah, I just swam. You can't give an honest ancey, you're supposed to be glowing and all of this so true.
00:13:12
Speaker 2: There's a lot of pressure and so that adds to the fact that people haven't studied it, they don't understand it, and they don't understand it as an illness. Now this is I think this is fascinating. Illinois is the first and only state in this country. It happened in twenty eighteen. They actually passed a law making postpartum illness basically a mitigating factor when you sentence a woman, a mother who's been charged with some sort of violence against her children, if she had postpartum depression, if she had postpartum psychosis. It is now law for them juries judges to consider that when coming up with the sentencing, and they also push rehabilitation or some sort of recognition of the mental health issue before punishing the woman. So they are the only state now. Interestingly, this trial is taking place in Massachusetts. They are the only other state. They have a bill currently right now, I believe was introduced in the fall. It's still kind of languishing right now. But if it were to pass, certainly given the spotlight on this trial in that state, it would make it the second state in the country to consider that. Not sure that will happen in time for sentencing with this young mom but certainly it's of note that this is something that at least one state has done. In several countries, by the way, around the world have passed laws based on this illness that we just don't.
00:14:33
Speaker 3: Talk that much about in this country.
00:14:35
Speaker 1: But again, it's the law requires the judge to consider it. Is that correct?
00:14:39
Speaker 2: Yes, in the state of Illinois only so yes, And that would seem if you can prove look if somehow, and that would be if she were to be found guilty. But if she were to be found not guilty, obviously all bets are off.
00:14:53
Speaker 3: But if she were to be.
00:14:53
Speaker 2: Found guilty right now in the state of Massachusetts, a judge does not have to consider a jury does not have consider the mitigating factors by law. Don't know what this individual judge might order or what the jury instructions could be if there was a guilty verdict.
00:15:08
Speaker 1: In this case, the law is just telling the judge in Illinois, give her a break. That's sit, just give her a break. She was going through something when this happened.
00:15:19
Speaker 3: Yes, break.
00:15:20
Speaker 2: So we certainly saw what happened in Texas with Andrea Yates. All eyes will be on this Massachusetts courtroom to see what happens to Lindsay Clancy. But this is certainly going to be a tough and a tall order for those jurors going through six to eight weeks of this trial of really truly an unthinkable tragedy that happened to the Clancy family. We'll keep our eye on it, but wanted to put it on your radar. Everyone.
00:15:42
Speaker 3: We always appreciate you listening to us. I meany roboch alongside TJ. Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.