Aug. 20, 2026
Lexi is as unforgettable as 3rd Rock from the Sun with Kristen Johnston.
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Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are you a Charlotte. We have the incredible Kristin Johnson here you guys. I'm very, very excited to see you. Feel fantastic. It's wonderful to see your success and you're on this new show, Leanne.
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Speaker 2: I know it's incredible. Thank you. I'm excited about it.
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Speaker 1: We were just talking about the craziness of our business. Yes, and God knows, you've seen a lot. Okay to me too, I know, and I love it.
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Speaker 2: I know too.
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Speaker 3: And also I think though it is a weird time to be an actress like us, like the fact that we still work is like a miracle to me.
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Speaker 1: Beyond You're incredibly lucky, beyond mean for me, I'm not on a show, right, so I'm always like, yeah, I don't know what is happening.
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Speaker 3: But you know, you've had an insane amount of success and more will come. But it's just an amazing miracle when you're in your fifties and you can or sixties whatever, and you like every time I drive onto.
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Speaker 2: The Warner Brothers lot, I'm like, thank you so much. Definitely, I'm so happy that there.
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Speaker 1: It's wonderful that a you film in La you're on the lot, the most beautiful and wonderful lot, and it ever gets to keep it, please honor it. Yeah what we say whenever we bring it up, because it's special to us.
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Speaker 3: No exactly. And also it is you know, it's just a history. And when you you are allowed to work right now, especially right now, it's just an incredible feeling.
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Speaker 1: And it's so craz absolutely. I'm just so happy too because this show is created by Leanne who's a stand up comic who's not twenty or thirty.
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Speaker 3: Oh no, she likes her whole thing is amazing, i know, huge success in her fifties.
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Speaker 2: It's just turned sixties. So yeah, it's amazing. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And also Cylia Weston incredible, a gem. I'm beautiful with her.
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Speaker 2: No, oh god, she's amazble. She's amazing.
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Speaker 3: And you know, this season is a lot of her, I mean, your character. It's a lot of focus on her and the father and me and Leanne, you know, figuring out how to deal with aging parents, which is I think.
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Speaker 2: A lot of people are going to really love it.
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Speaker 1: I'm a deer, yes, yes, And we.
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Speaker 3: Found our groove, like the first season you remember from Sex and the City, Like it's all like everyone's figuring out what works, you know, how should we write for this one and that one? So now I think it's kind of all come together.
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Speaker 2: Love that.
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Speaker 1: I love that, especially because now shows series are very few and far between. Yes, and having Chuck Lori, who obviously has so much experience and is so knowledgeable, like Michael Patrick, like there are the top.
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Speaker 2: Of the field.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and he knows comedy, which is so rare, so rare. But having them and having their commitment and like it takes them kind of like, oh, we have to feel it out and being a part of that coming together, it's so amazing. And I feel like there's no that many circumstances where that gets to happen.
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Speaker 2: No, exactly, especially for sitcoms.
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Speaker 3: For some reason, all the ones I've been on, all the ones I've watched, it takes like.
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Speaker 2: A season for you to figure out if it's going to work or not.
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Speaker 3: And so the first like six episodes of the first season for me were kind of horrifying for my work because I was still figuring it out and she was figuring out how to do it. I mean, she had never acted before, so it was kind of helping each other out. And thank god we had this crew and this writing crew, all people who work together for a million years.
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Speaker 2: I mean, Chalk has the best of the best, he really does. So yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Let's think a little bit about I mean, there's so many things I want to talk to you about. I was when you were coming out. I was like, I'm so excited she's coming because one of the things I remember the most about you. First of all, I remember Third Rap from the Sun a lot. And I'm old obviously, but like you know, for us, like you know, we were back. It was you know, the nineties, right, and it was a different time, a different place, a different world, but we were all in it' Also here was amazing many experiences in the middle of it all, one of which that I think about a lot is when you did The Women.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's where I really met you.
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, she wasn't there on the day of LEXI Featherstood.
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Speaker 2: I remember that.
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Speaker 3: Fortunately she she and I were very close on that play because we shared addressing room, which if you remember on Broadway, it's on top of the tighter. But she's also somebody, you know, she is a legend, Like she's a real legend.
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Speaker 2: She's a real New York legend.
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Speaker 3: Like her, her acting, her the theater, she's done, her list is way beyond it.
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Speaker 2: She's amazing.
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Speaker 1: Yes, I saw her on Broadway when she was doing her I was so jealous.
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Speaker 2: I wanted to kill.
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Speaker 1: Herus right, all of us. We were young. I mean, we were like is.
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Speaker 2: I know, could not believe it's so incredible.
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Speaker 3: And then years later she did one of the most like moving things that I've ever experienced, which was I was in this play called The Baltimore Waltz.
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Speaker 2: This was after we had done The Women Together.
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Speaker 3: Okay, and we were a huge hit before we opened. And then we opened and got a terear and it's a really hard play. It's like a sister losing her brother to AIDS and it's beautiful and Paula Volgel wrote it anyway, and overnight, because of this bad review, we were a bomb and we had the day after opening night, we had ten people in the audience and went from a sold out you know, no one could get in and it was horrible and broke my heart.
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Speaker 2: But I looked down in the audience.
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Speaker 3: A lot of my character had to do monologues, and Cynthia and her partner were in the front row like rooting us on and loving it and crying and standing oh like alone, you know, And I just went, you know that kind of actress. They're so rare that she's just amazing. I'll never forget it, and meant, that's so.
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Speaker 2: Much to me. That's so nice.
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Speaker 1: She is like a very you know, she's very smart, and she's very pinionated, right but if she feels like there's something where and she also knows everything about theater and you really don't go to the theater every nice.
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Speaker 2: I know she does.
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Speaker 1: It's insane. And before Christine, she went with her mom while Anne was still alive, and I just remember being like, because wom would be working and if she could get out, she'd go and I'd be like, I'm going to fall asleep, I know, to pass out. I know, Like how do you do it?
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Speaker 2: Ye see?
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Speaker 3: I love theater, but in smaller doses, I can't do a play every night. But she came and saw before I before we work together, she saw this play I did Shakespeare in the Park and we did wait, we did Oh god, Sabina, what's the play?
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Speaker 2: I can't even.
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Speaker 1: Yes, and I feel like I saw.
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Speaker 2: What Probably I don't know. It was one of my first shows in the parky too. I did three of it. It was the.
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Speaker 1: Best, incredibly magical. Eventually listening gets the experience to go to New York in the summer and can stay.
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Speaker 2: And tickets are free.
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Speaker 3: You got a stand in line, but so does everybody. So dreamy, it's so dream it's magical. But we did this show and she came with her mom and came up to me on the street like four years later, and she was like, you are the definitive Sabina, the part that's been played by a million brilliant actresses.
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Speaker 4: That's amazing.
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Speaker 2: She's that kind of person, she really is.
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Speaker 1: So how did you ever meet her the first time? Do you remember?
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Speaker 3: I think it was that she came up to me on the street after seeing the skin of our teeth.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I did not know. I mean I knew who she was, but you know, that's amazing.
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Speaker 1: So this is a little bit out of order, but just in the so, you have this incredible career for so long, and how did you come to be on our show?
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Speaker 2: Okay, it's a funny story.
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Speaker 3: Now they called me, and you know, I know, I know the whole crowd, your whole crowd, those girls, and Michael I know him a little bit, and.
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Speaker 1: So you know him from l a sitcom, maybe.
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Speaker 3: Dinner parties, I don't remember, but I met him and and anyway, so they approached me about like five different times.
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Speaker 2: And I was doing third Rock at the time, so I can never do it.
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Speaker 3: And then finally the show was wrapping up, it was ending, and he was like, we have one more idea for you, and I was like, I'm in and yeah, So that's how it happened. I was going to play like I think the Tatum O'Neill part at one point and then the Jennifer Coolidge part.
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Speaker 4: At one time.
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Speaker 2: Y yeah, yeah, oh my god. And so I ended up doing Lexi. Wow. I mean and Lexi why she made it. She made a mark, She made mark.
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Speaker 1: I mean. It was sad and dark.
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Speaker 3: Really like, honestly, it's the thing I'm most recognized by, no way, yeah.
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Speaker 1: On the street, are you kidding me? From everything you've ever done.
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Speaker 2: From everything I've ever done, it's the one thing.
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Speaker 1: It's very I mean, it lives in memeworld. Obviously, it's perfect. It's so perfect because of also what you're saying, because I think everyone knows like that you are kind of you're symbolizing the death of like fun New York, which at the time we felt, which is also kind of funny many years later, like yeah, why did we think that? Like it, it's funny and interesting. When I watched that episode, what I think of is that we are ending the show and we are having all these feelings.
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Speaker 2: Yes, do you know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: And because the last two episodes are in Paris.
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Speaker 2: That was the last New York episode exactly.
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Speaker 1: For me, that is like the last episode because the Paris thing is kind of like a little movie. Yes, you know, you don't go right, so like it has a darkness to that whole episode, and you symbolize the darkness of all that, the.
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Speaker 3: Death of the show and the and the death of New York. Yes, it's funny because even during that time, I didn't think New York was over, but it kind of was.
00:10:03
Speaker 2: They foreshadowed it.
00:10:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, an Era, I know it right, it might be right now? Can I ask a personal question?
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Speaker 4: You don't?
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm on your podcast, go for it.
00:10:13
Speaker 1: So were you sober yet?
00:10:15
Speaker 2: No?
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Speaker 1: Wow?
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Speaker 3: No, I was a hot mess in real life too. Yeah, I wasn't high on the show, but it wasn't that bad. But yes I was during that time.
00:10:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, my god, And what was your thought about playing this kind of washed up party girl.
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Speaker 3: Listen, when you're an addict, you know, you're so in denial. I'm sure I was like, yeah, let me, let me try to get this girl. I meanwhile, look in the mirror she lived in me. But yeah, yeah, of course I had no idea it was going to become this crazy thing.
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Speaker 1: I mean, we can't even believe that we're still discussed. Yea, we would never have seen that at the time that we were hugely successful in a wonderful way. Obviously that we never expected even that success, I'm saying, But the fact that almost thirty years later, I'm doing a podcast where we discussed it and all these young.
00:11:06
Speaker 2: You know, the vegus of the podcast is the show.
00:11:09
Speaker 3: It's amazing, like the zeitgeist it had and has still.
00:11:15
Speaker 1: I do think that the writing is the key to all of it, because the themes of the episodes old now to young women in their twenties to look at the episodes.
00:11:25
Speaker 3: Oh my god, now listen, visiting New York. Now everyone thinks they're Carrie Bradshaw. I mean, it's kind of a nightmare.
00:11:33
Speaker 1: The village is unrecognizable.
00:11:36
Speaker 2: It was beyond crazy, right.
00:11:38
Speaker 3: And all the girls like their heels and taken over the village.
00:11:45
Speaker 2: Influencers, eating everywhere everywhere.
00:11:48
Speaker 1: I rented an Airbnb for the last season of UH and just like.
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Speaker 2: That, one of that idea. By the way, you mean as your dressing room.
00:11:58
Speaker 1: No, because I live here, right, So we were working, so I got one in the village.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I was going to say, why don't we do airbnbs for dressing rooms?
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Speaker 2: But anyway, that could be a different time.
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Speaker 1: It couldn't be better, It could be better, for sure, but we were I wanted my kids to experience the village because of course in our minds. But I remember being going to Rutgers and we would take the train in for the weekend to go to see the shows and walk around the village, and we would go to village cigars and buy French cigarettes, sit.
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Speaker 2: On people's stand member.
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Speaker 1: Yes, I mean so many things right, So like in my mind, the village has a history to it and is a special place. Obviously did not stand that I couldn't open my door. Like I would open my door in my pajamas to get a delivery.
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Speaker 2: And they'd be like, no.
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Speaker 3: I mean when you guys were shooting the first incarnation of Sex and the City, like I lived in the West Village and we would see Sarah shooting you guys walking down the.
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Speaker 2: Street and it was just like whatever it was.
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Speaker 1: And we had like one light and a handhouse, so production wi we were very low fi, which was wonderful you know in the olden days, right, Yeah, but no, there wasn't in the beginning. There was no attention, and then as time went on, eventually there was a tension, but nothing like now.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's crazy now because now it's more like an idea, and yes, people take it very seriously. Definitely, way more seriously I think we did at the time.
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Speaker 1: Oh of course, we had no idea, and I mean when I look back on it, and I understand why we ended the show. I didn't really want to end the show. You know, I'm like the one who would have stay forever, right, But it is also funny to think, like, oh, we just voluntarily were like let's end, Like why, Yeah, yeah, we're so dumb. In a way, but I mean it's very hard.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you couldn't. I don't know if you could keep that going.
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Speaker 1: I think you're right.
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Speaker 2: I think the way ended, I don't know, it was.
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Speaker 3: Kind of perfect, wrapped up in a bow and kind of I loved that and then.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I love it.
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Speaker 1: I mean I do think it is allowed us to then do the movie, whereas.
00:14:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then do the following series.
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Speaker 3: You know, it's so funny because this podcast the title, and people are always like, you know, are you this or I've told the story before, but so many people have reached out to me saying I'm elect.
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Speaker 2: All my friends went out and they're like, I'm Alexi. What And I just.
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Speaker 3: Want to say, oh my god, yeah.
00:14:21
Speaker 2: You poor things.
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Speaker 3: They see it like a badge of honor, like okay, yeah, I cannot tell you how many people have said that me.
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Speaker 2: That's interesting.
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Speaker 1: Yes, what do you say as a now sober person to that.
00:14:32
Speaker 2: Oh, you know, I just think it's funny and like, may God help you, my darling.
00:14:36
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, sometimes somebody.
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Speaker 2: Having that kind of self knowledge. I do love it too. I respect that's true, and I respect that too.
00:14:44
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's you know, people obviously tell me all the different things that they are or whatever you want to be sometimes whatever. And I mean it is of course very flattering at all that they would, you know whatever. And I do think self self, you know, interestect action about who you are what you are is good.
00:15:02
Speaker 2: But the thing that.
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Speaker 1: Worries me, and this did worry me as another sober person about on the show. You know, obviously our characters drink a lot because we were playing these you know, people based on real people, and that was the world they lived in. And there's one point where either Newsweek or Time did an article about young women drinking and they put us on the cover. And I was like so mortified, right as a sober person, very awkward, right, because yes, my character drinks a lot, but I don't.
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Speaker 4: Meet.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm not really a big meeting person because I was so young when I quit. I went to a meeting in New Brunswick because I was in school the whole time I was in college. I was trying to quit, which was hard to.
00:15:42
Speaker 2: Do because it's right, that's amazing one.
00:15:46
Speaker 1: Point, thank you. At one point I went to a meeting in New Brunswick and it was literally heroin addicts. Like it was very hard to the point where I was like what am I doing? Like I just couldn't I couldn't find a way to be there at that point in life, right. And I had this incredible therapist that was like too many times a week who really helped me stop. And then I had a boyfriend who was sober.
00:16:10
Speaker 2: But he didn't rehab. I didn't know.
00:16:13
Speaker 1: I didn't go to rehab.
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Speaker 3: Because it's so hard at that age especially, But.
00:16:18
Speaker 1: That's how bad it was that I knew I had to stop saying I knew inside me I did and stuff it was going to end.
00:16:23
Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, I took a lot long, did you really?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you were successful. See if I had already been successful, I wouldn't have had the inspiration to stop.
00:16:34
Speaker 2: So you were trying to stop so you could have a career life.
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Speaker 1: Yes, And that's the only reason that I that was the only thing that was more interesting to me than drinking was acting.
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Speaker 2: Right.
00:16:45
Speaker 1: But if I had somehow been able to do both right, well.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, there really is nothing like fame and disposable income when you have that addiction gene. It is brutal, But yeah, I know a lot of people stopped really young, and my god, they are their lives are great.
00:17:04
Speaker 2: I mean, it's really it's a lot.
00:17:06
Speaker 1: Of energy, right, Like you put a lot of energy into.
00:17:09
Speaker 2: Your addictions, into hiding it.
00:17:10
Speaker 1: That energy put it into your career or regular life. But I just have to bring this up because it's really on my mind. Did you see this thing about bread Pitt starting to drink?
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Speaker 2: Yes, I did.
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Speaker 3: I've known a lot of people who've done That've negotiated that way. Yeah, and it never in my experience, it has never ended anywhere. But like kneeling begging for death, it's never been a series.
00:17:33
Speaker 2: Well.
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Speaker 3: The thing is that I think that is upsetting a little bit is when you start telling people you're kind of sober, but you do that and it's like, so, I'm just worried about the amount of.
00:17:46
Speaker 2: People that read that and went, oh me too. Maybe I could have a beer because you know, it was fun.
00:17:52
Speaker 3: I know we could control it, which was the first month or whatever. I know, but it never ends a different way, it does. It really doesn't that I've seen.
00:18:01
Speaker 4: I know.
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Speaker 2: It's scary.
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Speaker 3: Then people are like, oh, my uncle, you know, was sober and now he drinks a beer. But I'm like, I don't know, I've never met anybody that could do it. I have an either, I don't know, I have aither.
00:18:14
Speaker 1: The only thing I've met is people in our industry who are successful who say to me, you know, sometimes I think I might be an alcoholic.
00:18:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, No, I look back to it all the time, right, all the time, right, yeah.
00:18:25
Speaker 1: And I'm always like, Okay, let's have this conversation.
00:18:28
Speaker 2: Was you think that blah blah blah blah blah. And they're like, oh, but then I can do you know.
00:18:31
Speaker 1: There's a lot of negotiating within that conversation. Those people end up being alcoholics, yeah, yeah, yeah, or sex addicts yeah, for some versions. Right.
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Speaker 3: Well, look, as I said, I wrote this book about my recovery, my addiction and recovery, and I say, look, we're all addicted to something, every single person, whether it's shopping or tanning or cigarettes or you know whatever.
00:18:53
Speaker 2: Food.
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Speaker 3: Food is a big one, but you know what I mean, it varies. There's a huge, you know, world of it. So if you could figure out your way, I mean, I don't know, I don't see a happy ending for that.
00:19:06
Speaker 1: I mean, the thing that also made me think of it is that when you have had a lot of success and been able to do both, Yes, it makes it harder, I think to care.
00:19:15
Speaker 3: For sure, because the key to it is humility. I mean that really is the key to getting sober. I think, you know, going to the heroinatutic meeting that you don't necessarily feel at home at, going to a rehab that is full of like for my in my situation, I went with a bunch of kids from the streets. You know, I was the oldest person there. Wow, you know, so I think that's important. I think it's important, you know, to be able to like just be humbled and be like, I am the same as everybody else. So when you start as an elitist, you know, or an elite person where you can afford promises and you can afford all this gorgeous private treatment, I think one of the key elements to getting sober is law.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 3: It's a good point, you know, I think you really do need to hunker down and sit in the gross meeting that you're feel weird.
00:20:06
Speaker 1: At, right, That's a good point.
00:20:08
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:20:19
Speaker 1: I mean for me it was all different because also it was eight million years ago, right, Like it was the eighties, so I didn't know anyone in AA.
00:20:29
Speaker 2: I didn't know anyone.
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Speaker 1: To be telling me things like what you're saying, right, yeah, So I was just like lost, like I don't know how to do this. And that's what was so great about finding this therapist because he was able to help me deal with my own personal issues right that were leading me to be learning to drink so much.
00:20:46
Speaker 2: Because I had.
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Speaker 1: Started at eleven, right, so like really young, and I don't know my biological father, but it seemed like his family had it right, So I had the gene, but I didn't know the gene. I wasn't around anyone with the gene. Well, I was around other friends who seem to have the gene.
00:21:01
Speaker 3: Right, they hadn't navigated the gene yet exactly right, But like.
00:21:05
Speaker 1: My parents weren't drinking and all I'm trying to say, it wasn't like I.
00:21:08
Speaker 2: Don't come from a fan. My mom and my dad I don't think have that issue. So it does pop up.
00:21:14
Speaker 1: It does, it does pop up, But for me, I absolutely believe in it, like I have one hundred percent believe.
00:21:21
Speaker 2: That it's you genetic.
00:21:22
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree, and I mean our genes are so complex, and they just keep discovering more and more things about them, about his relationship to them, or eating the different things, and you know, why not believe that and believe like, I need to take that seriously.
00:21:40
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's a.
00:21:41
Speaker 1: Real thing that I need to say seriously. I need to not look at whoever it is, because I've had so many people over time be like, just have one glass of yeah, yeah, yeah, oh totally no, yeah, yeah, no, take it away.
00:21:53
Speaker 2: I don't want to hold it.
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's what I try telling you. It's just I'm allergic to it.
00:21:58
Speaker 2: I really am good. Yeah, because there was that.
00:22:01
Speaker 1: Whole time, I want to say, in the nineties or maybe the two thousands, like California sober.
00:22:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was like none in the last twenty years. Yeah, I do remember that. That's kind of I.
00:22:10
Speaker 2: Think what he's doing, that's what it seems.
00:22:12
Speaker 4: Yeah right.
00:22:12
Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: It's so hard though, because look, I don't want to judge anybody else's I am one of those firm believers that I don't believe you have to go to twelve step. I think it works really well for a lot of people, but it's not the only answer, and as I wrote in my book, you know, I asked this guy. This is when I was pretending to be normal and I was at this like you know, Hollywood party and I was taught there. It was an addiction specialist. I was sitting next to Okay, yeah, So I was like, you know, trying to ask him questions as a normal person as I had my two SIPs of my white wine, because that's how normal people drink anyway.
00:22:51
Speaker 2: So I asked him. I was like, so, what is the best way to get sober?
00:22:55
Speaker 3: And he said, you know, there are so many different ways, but basically, if pushing a peanut up a hill keeps you sober, then push a peanut up the hill.
00:23:03
Speaker 2: With your nose, you know what I mean, Like whatever works for you totally.
00:23:06
Speaker 3: So that's why I feel bad because I don't want to judge him. We're talking about Brad Pitt. I really don't because that may work for him. It brought up a topic that a lot of people feel very passionately about.
00:23:19
Speaker 1: It's true, and I feel like that is good, right. The thing that is scary is for people, maybe young people are people who aren't sure just to say, like you're here, Thank the Lord, right hair, yeah, and I'm here very different scenario. And you know, by the time I did get to New York in the eighties, for God's sake, that was a thing and I had to really avoid a lot. Like at that point it was wild.
00:23:50
Speaker 2: That was when I was waitressing and stuff and tables like later out in the open keys.
00:23:57
Speaker 1: I mean, it was a lot. I was waitressing as well.
00:24:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, you poor.
00:24:01
Speaker 4: Yeah, but.
00:24:03
Speaker 2: It was okay because like I.
00:24:05
Speaker 1: Could see it, you know, like at one point I had I was living in Hoboken and there was like this I think it was called the River Cafe, but not the famous one, Like right when you got off the Hoboken you're talking about. All the yuppie guys, the finance bros at the time, would come there and they would drink a lot, you know, and they would start out in their suits and I'd be like, oh, they're so handsome, they're so shiny, and then they'd just be sloppy drunk, and I would be like, thank god, I'm not doing that.
00:24:35
Speaker 3: And also, thank god I got sober before cell phones and stuff. I mean, I would have been, oh, it would have been horrible. Thank God, none of my behavior was caught on film.
00:24:45
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, oh oh totally.
00:24:47
Speaker 2: I'm so grateful.
00:24:48
Speaker 1: We did have a whole life that you just do kind of.
00:24:51
Speaker 3: Whatever and no one had to worry about it. So it's kind of great now. I mean your behavior has to be a little more uh quiet.
00:24:59
Speaker 2: That's true.
00:25:00
Speaker 1: You will get or you will get quickly shamed. Yes, that's true. That's true. But I do feel like people get away with a lot still.
00:25:07
Speaker 2: Yeah they do.
00:25:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know that when you were talking about all those bros being all shiny and the thing that when I got sober is when you are at a park, like, I can't go to parties really, I mean I can stay for like an hour, but after a while and it's not like I'm troubled by drinking. I don't care. I totally can hang out with people drinking, but it's just it gets so messy, yes, so fast.
00:25:28
Speaker 2: Oh I'm so boring.
00:25:31
Speaker 1: I know.
00:25:31
Speaker 2: That was what shocked me. I was like, was I this boring? Yes?
00:25:35
Speaker 1: The answer yes, yes.
00:25:38
Speaker 2: Not you in particularly for sure.
00:25:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, drinking is not like my kids are just like because there's no alcohol in our house and they think that's how everyone is, right. So my daughter just turned fifteen. I'm kind of trying to educate now, like you know, I'm unusual and that I've been sober a very long time and this is how we live. And they're like, you mean, people drink, and I'm.
00:25:59
Speaker 2: Like, people drink, Okay, guys.
00:26:02
Speaker 1: They're like alcohol like it's the cutest thing. They're also like, but people smoke cigarettes, like it's like one time they were like, my, look in.
00:26:10
Speaker 2: The car someone I'm smoking. Yeah. I wish they could always remain that. It's so dreaming. Just didn't drink around me, and look how I turned out, So you never.
00:26:23
Speaker 1: Know, you don't know. I mean, no, no, of course, I mean. Look, I'm always I mean my thing that I deal with now because my daughter just turned fifteen. She's really amazing and kind of shy and everything, but.
00:26:37
Speaker 2: You know, she is going to guard in the world at.
00:26:39
Speaker 1: Some point, and I want her to feel like she could have a drink and the world's not gonna fall down, right, Like, you know, I'm trying to find a happy medium.
00:26:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
00:26:49
Speaker 1: It's so hard. I don't imagine that alcohol to come in the house either.
00:26:53
Speaker 2: You don't want to be super strict where they want We're just going to.
00:26:56
Speaker 1: Go the other way, absolutely, And I mean there's going to be some rebellion at some point. So I tried to just prepare myself for them. Right, let's talk about LEXI a little bit.
00:27:15
Speaker 2: Oh, I'd love to.
00:27:16
Speaker 1: So they'd offered you these other parts. Were you happy that you'd waited?
00:27:19
Speaker 4: Did you?
00:27:20
Speaker 1: God?
00:27:21
Speaker 4: Yeah?
00:27:22
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I was so grateful I got to come on the show. I mean it was ending.
00:27:26
Speaker 3: I knew Sarah for years, like you know, I was so excited to be to have.
00:27:30
Speaker 1: A chance to do and look at your room of people you were in.
00:27:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god, the g I was, you know, whatsually that night I opened in Wally Shawn's play Aunt Dan and Lemon. That night, Yes, the night we shot LEXI. We shot in one day and that night I opened in Wally Shawn's play called Aunt Dan and Lemon.
00:27:54
Speaker 2: That is that crazy? So he yelled at me that day. What did he say? Well, no, I'm sad. He was like, you know, I don't remember what his line was, but he was just like, there's no smoking. Remember, Oh he's because he comes up to you.
00:28:06
Speaker 1: He's really kind of in some ways the impetus for you falling because you're trying to find a place to smoke. Kennas tells you Kansas character tells you that you can't smoke inside. You like, but there is no outside, it's snowing, and then you crank the thing open.
00:28:21
Speaker 2: And that's when he comes.
00:28:22
Speaker 1: You Remember where you filmed?
00:28:24
Speaker 3: Yes, it was Silver Cup. I think, oh, you were in.
00:28:26
Speaker 1: A Silver Cup because it looks like Darren Starr's apartment.
00:28:30
Speaker 2: I think they to.
00:28:31
Speaker 3: Make it on that, you know, because I had to actually fall out the window. So there was a big mattress and they had a stunt woman do it too.
00:28:39
Speaker 2: I don't know which footage they ended up. I can't tell. And it looks like you it's might have been heard too, so I don't know.
00:28:45
Speaker 1: I don't want to miss No, of course you call it. But the reason I bring it up is because he lived in the not Trump pleasant word Trump himself lives, but like one Central Park, you know, right in front of the circle. He lived there for a very long time. We would have these parties there every year and there were no windows, you know what I mean, Like you're.
00:29:04
Speaker 3: So many people say to me, like, how could they ever have windows like that?
00:29:07
Speaker 2: It took me on the scene and there are windows like that.
00:29:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, people don't understand New York stuff like like also with Carrie's apartment in and just like that, the one the that's very very realistic, and people were all on the internet like why would her kitchen be so small? I'm like, you guys need to do more research.
00:29:26
Speaker 2: Okay, please do Yeah, no, exactly.
00:29:30
Speaker 1: The century, don't you know apartments exactly? Oh my god, exactly anyway, Okay, so that is crazy that you were in a play by Walashan. And also how did we get Walashan to be on the show?
00:29:42
Speaker 2: I have no idea. I don't know.
00:29:44
Speaker 3: I mean, look, I mean he's the best you probably I think he and Kandas are friends.
00:29:49
Speaker 1: Oh it was probably. It was Obviously she ends up with him at your funeral, which is so adorable, and he's a food critic.
00:29:58
Speaker 2: I also the.
00:29:59
Speaker 3: PROMI me the cover of New York Post that said splat with my picture and they never sent it to me.
00:30:06
Speaker 2: I'm so bitter about it.
00:30:07
Speaker 1: Yeah I can get a hold of it. I will, But you know what happened.
00:30:11
Speaker 2: I would owe you for life.
00:30:12
Speaker 1: Well listen, they also promised me my wedding ring with Kyle, which I had picked out here in LA from the jewelry designer whose name I'm not going to remember. I went to her house. I had to convince her to send us jewelry. She didn't really know the show or whatever.
00:30:27
Speaker 2: It was it real, Oh my god, I love your show. Everything was.
00:30:34
Speaker 3: I would get like, you know, one of those whatever fake diamonds, exactly right, and.
00:30:39
Speaker 1: We got the real I mean that one wasn't a big when I do get like the Tiffany wedding you know, engagement ring that it was real for a day. And the space, yeah, yeah, they're not going to let me walk around. I was going to say big rock, no, but this was like I don't know, four thousand dollars maybe or something like that, right, And I had picked it and our mistress who I'm just going to not say her name right now, had promised me that I could have that ring. And then when we wrapped, it was chaos.
00:31:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, you wrapped the whole things were missing. Really figure out who it was.
00:31:14
Speaker 1: I think someone figured out who it was. I don't even want to get into. But the drama, it was a drama. Okay, it was a drama, so that ring was questioning it? Yeah, yeah, that ring was gone. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know where it went, but it would have been weird to keep anyway. I don't know quite what I thought. Was I going to wear Charlotte's wedding ring around?
00:31:30
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's a good memento totally. I would have framed that sucker. Oh it's so glad.
00:31:36
Speaker 2: I would have kept it for life.
00:31:37
Speaker 1: But when flat and what does the other one say? There's two?
00:31:41
Speaker 2: Oh right, maybe they used the other one they.
00:31:43
Speaker 1: Used both watched it last night. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because like they're so funny.
00:31:48
Speaker 2: They called me.
00:31:48
Speaker 3: They were like, can you rewatch the episode to come on? And I'm like, you don't understand. I've seen every scene five thousand times on memes.
00:31:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always it's true, I think for me because I watched it at the time, but then I haven't watched it all since. Right, And when you do watch the whole episode, there's some scenes that aren't really that memorable, Right, there's stuff you don't remember at all. Yeah, and this episode for sure. I mean, of course I remember your part because it's so but like I don't remember that you go in in the bathroom. Really, oh yeah, I didn't remember that, and I didn't remember the one.
00:32:26
Speaker 3: She comes in and she's so like, my life is totally together, and it just I think that's the reason Lexi falls, like, that's the last straw.
00:32:36
Speaker 2: I think you're right, you know, I think you're right. Carrie Bradshaw's found someone totally oh my.
00:32:42
Speaker 1: God, not even someone but like Ershnikoff as an artist, like what yeah, and he's taking her to Paris. But she doesn't tell you, but we know.
00:32:51
Speaker 2: But she knows. It's the end of an era.
00:32:53
Speaker 1: It is the end of an era.
00:32:54
Speaker 2: Now she is the last one at the party. It's truely, it's sad.
00:32:58
Speaker 1: It is sad, and I feel set for Candace too, Candace's character. I'm just like, oh, she doesn't have a plus one tour.
00:33:05
Speaker 2: No, I think you meant can Bush No was like girl.
00:33:09
Speaker 1: No, I feel fine, yeah, totally yeah. We yes we are on the video but yes, I know what you're saying. Kandas is doing fine. We had her on the podcast.
00:33:20
Speaker 2: Good oh good.
00:33:21
Speaker 3: No, you know remember when he said, I think you got to ask Michael Patrick King this, but I think he based it on Amy Sacho was the owner of oh my god, yeah, Bungalow eight at the time, and a fabulous person.
00:33:34
Speaker 2: By the way, I love her. She's that's so that's who I did. Oh my gosh. I totally forgot that she was the she was the girl of the nineties in New York. She really was.
00:33:46
Speaker 3: She owned bung she ran Bungalow eight and all these other really top of the line clubs.
00:33:51
Speaker 2: And I hung out with her a couple of times. Wow, she was hilarious.
00:33:54
Speaker 1: Well, we have that other episode where she goes Carrie goes to Bungalow eight and Lily's there and then she leaves. She's with them, she's.
00:34:02
Speaker 2: With them, Mari Marlan. Yes, Oh, he's such a genius. My god.
00:34:09
Speaker 1: Right, he was on her show and he takes Carrie to Bungalow eight and Stanford comes in. Stanford's shoalous because she has another yay guy and then he's not paying enough attention to her or whatever.
00:34:19
Speaker 2: She leaves.
00:34:19
Speaker 1: It's all very weird, But like that was when I'm really like, oh, we've got our pulse. We're taking the pulse of New York.
00:34:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.
00:34:28
Speaker 1: Michael Patrick was writing about Amy sacho, I'd forgot.
00:34:31
Speaker 3: He's yeah, exactly, He's so interesting that actor.
00:34:34
Speaker 2: I loveless, God, why does he do this show?
00:34:38
Speaker 1: I don't know? For everyone? He tells her to come.
00:34:41
Speaker 2: Lives in Australia, so who knows?
00:34:44
Speaker 1: Who knows? Okay, So thank you so much for joining us with Kristin Johnston. Love to see her and look for her new show, leanne Is Season two is coming to Netflix on August twenty seventh. So so happy for her success. We love her so much and she will be back when we get to the rewatch of episode six eighteen splat, So stay tuned for more Kristen Johnson in a while
Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are you a Charlotte. We have the incredible Kristin Johnson here you guys. I'm very, very excited to see you. Feel fantastic. It's wonderful to see your success and you're on this new show, Leanne.
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Speaker 2: I know it's incredible. Thank you. I'm excited about it.
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Speaker 1: We were just talking about the craziness of our business. Yes, and God knows, you've seen a lot. Okay to me too, I know, and I love it.
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Speaker 2: I know too.
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Speaker 3: And also I think though it is a weird time to be an actress like us, like the fact that we still work is like a miracle to me.
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Speaker 1: Beyond You're incredibly lucky, beyond mean for me, I'm not on a show, right, so I'm always like, yeah, I don't know what is happening.
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Speaker 3: But you know, you've had an insane amount of success and more will come. But it's just an amazing miracle when you're in your fifties and you can or sixties whatever, and you like every time I drive onto.
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Speaker 2: The Warner Brothers lot, I'm like, thank you so much. Definitely, I'm so happy that there.
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Speaker 1: It's wonderful that a you film in La you're on the lot, the most beautiful and wonderful lot, and it ever gets to keep it, please honor it. Yeah what we say whenever we bring it up, because it's special to us.
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Speaker 3: No exactly. And also it is you know, it's just a history. And when you you are allowed to work right now, especially right now, it's just an incredible feeling.
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Speaker 1: And it's so craz absolutely. I'm just so happy too because this show is created by Leanne who's a stand up comic who's not twenty or thirty.
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Speaker 3: Oh no, she likes her whole thing is amazing, i know, huge success in her fifties.
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Speaker 2: It's just turned sixties. So yeah, it's amazing. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And also Cylia Weston incredible, a gem. I'm beautiful with her.
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Speaker 2: No, oh god, she's amazble. She's amazing.
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Speaker 3: And you know, this season is a lot of her, I mean, your character. It's a lot of focus on her and the father and me and Leanne, you know, figuring out how to deal with aging parents, which is I think.
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Speaker 2: A lot of people are going to really love it.
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Speaker 1: I'm a deer, yes, yes, And we.
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Speaker 3: Found our groove, like the first season you remember from Sex and the City, Like it's all like everyone's figuring out what works, you know, how should we write for this one and that one? So now I think it's kind of all come together.
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Speaker 2: Love that.
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Speaker 1: I love that, especially because now shows series are very few and far between. Yes, and having Chuck Lori, who obviously has so much experience and is so knowledgeable, like Michael Patrick, like there are the top.
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Speaker 2: Of the field.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and he knows comedy, which is so rare, so rare. But having them and having their commitment and like it takes them kind of like, oh, we have to feel it out and being a part of that coming together, it's so amazing. And I feel like there's no that many circumstances where that gets to happen.
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Speaker 2: No, exactly, especially for sitcoms.
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Speaker 3: For some reason, all the ones I've been on, all the ones I've watched, it takes like.
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Speaker 2: A season for you to figure out if it's going to work or not.
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Speaker 3: And so the first like six episodes of the first season for me were kind of horrifying for my work because I was still figuring it out and she was figuring out how to do it. I mean, she had never acted before, so it was kind of helping each other out. And thank god we had this crew and this writing crew, all people who work together for a million years.
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Speaker 2: I mean, Chalk has the best of the best, he really does. So yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Let's think a little bit about I mean, there's so many things I want to talk to you about. I was when you were coming out. I was like, I'm so excited she's coming because one of the things I remember the most about you. First of all, I remember Third Rap from the Sun a lot. And I'm old obviously, but like you know, for us, like you know, we were back. It was you know, the nineties, right, and it was a different time, a different place, a different world, but we were all in it' Also here was amazing many experiences in the middle of it all, one of which that I think about a lot is when you did The Women.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's where I really met you.
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, she wasn't there on the day of LEXI Featherstood.
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Speaker 2: I remember that.
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Speaker 3: Fortunately she she and I were very close on that play because we shared addressing room, which if you remember on Broadway, it's on top of the tighter. But she's also somebody, you know, she is a legend, Like she's a real legend.
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Speaker 2: She's a real New York legend.
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Speaker 3: Like her, her acting, her the theater, she's done, her list is way beyond it.
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Speaker 2: She's amazing.
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Speaker 1: Yes, I saw her on Broadway when she was doing her I was so jealous.
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Speaker 2: I wanted to kill.
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Speaker 1: Herus right, all of us. We were young. I mean, we were like is.
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Speaker 2: I know, could not believe it's so incredible.
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Speaker 3: And then years later she did one of the most like moving things that I've ever experienced, which was I was in this play called The Baltimore Waltz.
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Speaker 2: This was after we had done The Women Together.
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Speaker 3: Okay, and we were a huge hit before we opened. And then we opened and got a terear and it's a really hard play. It's like a sister losing her brother to AIDS and it's beautiful and Paula Volgel wrote it anyway, and overnight, because of this bad review, we were a bomb and we had the day after opening night, we had ten people in the audience and went from a sold out you know, no one could get in and it was horrible and broke my heart.
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Speaker 2: But I looked down in the audience.
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Speaker 3: A lot of my character had to do monologues, and Cynthia and her partner were in the front row like rooting us on and loving it and crying and standing oh like alone, you know, And I just went, you know that kind of actress. They're so rare that she's just amazing. I'll never forget it, and meant, that's so.
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Speaker 2: Much to me. That's so nice.
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Speaker 1: She is like a very you know, she's very smart, and she's very pinionated, right but if she feels like there's something where and she also knows everything about theater and you really don't go to the theater every nice.
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Speaker 2: I know she does.
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Speaker 1: It's insane. And before Christine, she went with her mom while Anne was still alive, and I just remember being like, because wom would be working and if she could get out, she'd go and I'd be like, I'm going to fall asleep, I know, to pass out. I know, Like how do you do it?
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Speaker 2: Ye see?
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Speaker 3: I love theater, but in smaller doses, I can't do a play every night. But she came and saw before I before we work together, she saw this play I did Shakespeare in the Park and we did wait, we did Oh god, Sabina, what's the play?
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Speaker 2: I can't even.
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Speaker 1: Yes, and I feel like I saw.
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Speaker 2: What Probably I don't know. It was one of my first shows in the parky too. I did three of it. It was the.
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Speaker 1: Best, incredibly magical. Eventually listening gets the experience to go to New York in the summer and can stay.
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Speaker 2: And tickets are free.
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Speaker 3: You got a stand in line, but so does everybody. So dreamy, it's so dream it's magical. But we did this show and she came with her mom and came up to me on the street like four years later, and she was like, you are the definitive Sabina, the part that's been played by a million brilliant actresses.
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Speaker 4: That's amazing.
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Speaker 2: She's that kind of person, she really is.
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Speaker 1: So how did you ever meet her the first time? Do you remember?
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Speaker 3: I think it was that she came up to me on the street after seeing the skin of our teeth.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I did not know. I mean I knew who she was, but you know, that's amazing.
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Speaker 1: So this is a little bit out of order, but just in the so, you have this incredible career for so long, and how did you come to be on our show?
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Speaker 2: Okay, it's a funny story.
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Speaker 3: Now they called me, and you know, I know, I know the whole crowd, your whole crowd, those girls, and Michael I know him a little bit, and.
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Speaker 1: So you know him from l a sitcom, maybe.
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Speaker 3: Dinner parties, I don't remember, but I met him and and anyway, so they approached me about like five different times.
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Speaker 2: And I was doing third Rock at the time, so I can never do it.
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Speaker 3: And then finally the show was wrapping up, it was ending, and he was like, we have one more idea for you, and I was like, I'm in and yeah, So that's how it happened. I was going to play like I think the Tatum O'Neill part at one point and then the Jennifer Coolidge part.
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Speaker 4: At one time.
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Speaker 2: Y yeah, yeah, oh my god. And so I ended up doing Lexi. Wow. I mean and Lexi why she made it. She made a mark, She made mark.
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Speaker 1: I mean. It was sad and dark.
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Speaker 3: Really like, honestly, it's the thing I'm most recognized by, no way, yeah.
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Speaker 1: On the street, are you kidding me? From everything you've ever done.
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Speaker 2: From everything I've ever done, it's the one thing.
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Speaker 1: It's very I mean, it lives in memeworld. Obviously, it's perfect. It's so perfect because of also what you're saying, because I think everyone knows like that you are kind of you're symbolizing the death of like fun New York, which at the time we felt, which is also kind of funny many years later, like yeah, why did we think that? Like it, it's funny and interesting. When I watched that episode, what I think of is that we are ending the show and we are having all these feelings.
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Speaker 2: Yes, do you know what I mean?
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Speaker 1: And because the last two episodes are in Paris.
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Speaker 2: That was the last New York episode exactly.
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Speaker 1: For me, that is like the last episode because the Paris thing is kind of like a little movie. Yes, you know, you don't go right, so like it has a darkness to that whole episode, and you symbolize the darkness of all that, the.
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Speaker 3: Death of the show and the and the death of New York. Yes, it's funny because even during that time, I didn't think New York was over, but it kind of was.
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Speaker 2: They foreshadowed it.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, an Era, I know it right, it might be right now? Can I ask a personal question?
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Speaker 4: You don't?
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm on your podcast, go for it.
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Speaker 1: So were you sober yet?
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Speaker 2: No?
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Speaker 1: Wow?
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Speaker 3: No, I was a hot mess in real life too. Yeah, I wasn't high on the show, but it wasn't that bad. But yes I was during that time.
00:10:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, my god, And what was your thought about playing this kind of washed up party girl.
00:10:30
Speaker 3: Listen, when you're an addict, you know, you're so in denial. I'm sure I was like, yeah, let me, let me try to get this girl. I meanwhile, look in the mirror she lived in me. But yeah, yeah, of course I had no idea it was going to become this crazy thing.
00:10:47
Speaker 1: I mean, we can't even believe that we're still discussed. Yea, we would never have seen that at the time that we were hugely successful in a wonderful way. Obviously that we never expected even that success, I'm saying, But the fact that almost thirty years later, I'm doing a podcast where we discussed it and all these young.
00:11:06
Speaker 2: You know, the vegus of the podcast is the show.
00:11:09
Speaker 3: It's amazing, like the zeitgeist it had and has still.
00:11:15
Speaker 1: I do think that the writing is the key to all of it, because the themes of the episodes old now to young women in their twenties to look at the episodes.
00:11:25
Speaker 3: Oh my god, now listen, visiting New York. Now everyone thinks they're Carrie Bradshaw. I mean, it's kind of a nightmare.
00:11:33
Speaker 1: The village is unrecognizable.
00:11:36
Speaker 2: It was beyond crazy, right.
00:11:38
Speaker 3: And all the girls like their heels and taken over the village.
00:11:45
Speaker 2: Influencers, eating everywhere everywhere.
00:11:48
Speaker 1: I rented an Airbnb for the last season of UH and just like.
00:11:53
Speaker 2: That, one of that idea. By the way, you mean as your dressing room.
00:11:58
Speaker 1: No, because I live here, right, So we were working, so I got one in the village.
00:12:02
Speaker 3: Oh, I was going to say, why don't we do airbnbs for dressing rooms?
00:12:05
Speaker 2: But anyway, that could be a different time.
00:12:07
Speaker 1: It couldn't be better, It could be better, for sure, but we were I wanted my kids to experience the village because of course in our minds. But I remember being going to Rutgers and we would take the train in for the weekend to go to see the shows and walk around the village, and we would go to village cigars and buy French cigarettes, sit.
00:12:24
Speaker 2: On people's stand member.
00:12:27
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean so many things right, So like in my mind, the village has a history to it and is a special place. Obviously did not stand that I couldn't open my door. Like I would open my door in my pajamas to get a delivery.
00:12:42
Speaker 2: And they'd be like, no.
00:12:46
Speaker 3: I mean when you guys were shooting the first incarnation of Sex and the City, like I lived in the West Village and we would see Sarah shooting you guys walking down the.
00:12:54
Speaker 2: Street and it was just like whatever it was.
00:12:58
Speaker 1: And we had like one light and a handhouse, so production wi we were very low fi, which was wonderful you know in the olden days, right, Yeah, but no, there wasn't in the beginning. There was no attention, and then as time went on, eventually there was a tension, but nothing like now.
00:13:15
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's crazy now because now it's more like an idea, and yes, people take it very seriously. Definitely, way more seriously I think we did at the time.
00:13:25
Speaker 1: Oh of course, we had no idea, and I mean when I look back on it, and I understand why we ended the show. I didn't really want to end the show. You know, I'm like the one who would have stay forever, right, But it is also funny to think, like, oh, we just voluntarily were like let's end, Like why, Yeah, yeah, we're so dumb. In a way, but I mean it's very hard.
00:13:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, you couldn't. I don't know if you could keep that going.
00:13:50
Speaker 1: I think you're right.
00:13:51
Speaker 2: I think the way ended, I don't know, it was.
00:13:52
Speaker 3: Kind of perfect, wrapped up in a bow and kind of I loved that and then.
00:13:57
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I love it.
00:13:58
Speaker 1: I mean I do think it is allowed us to then do the movie, whereas.
00:14:02
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then do the following series.
00:14:04
Speaker 3: You know, it's so funny because this podcast the title, and people are always like, you know, are you this or I've told the story before, but so many people have reached out to me saying I'm elect.
00:14:14
Speaker 2: All my friends went out and they're like, I'm Alexi. What And I just.
00:14:18
Speaker 3: Want to say, oh my god, yeah.
00:14:21
Speaker 2: You poor things.
00:14:22
Speaker 3: They see it like a badge of honor, like okay, yeah, I cannot tell you how many people have said that me.
00:14:28
Speaker 2: That's interesting.
00:14:29
Speaker 1: Yes, what do you say as a now sober person to that.
00:14:32
Speaker 2: Oh, you know, I just think it's funny and like, may God help you, my darling.
00:14:36
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, sometimes somebody.
00:14:39
Speaker 2: Having that kind of self knowledge. I do love it too. I respect that's true, and I respect that too.
00:14:44
Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's you know, people obviously tell me all the different things that they are or whatever you want to be sometimes whatever. And I mean it is of course very flattering at all that they would, you know whatever. And I do think self self, you know, interestect action about who you are what you are is good.
00:15:02
Speaker 2: But the thing that.
00:15:03
Speaker 1: Worries me, and this did worry me as another sober person about on the show. You know, obviously our characters drink a lot because we were playing these you know, people based on real people, and that was the world they lived in. And there's one point where either Newsweek or Time did an article about young women drinking and they put us on the cover. And I was like so mortified, right as a sober person, very awkward, right, because yes, my character drinks a lot, but I don't.
00:15:30
Speaker 4: Meet.
00:15:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm not really a big meeting person because I was so young when I quit. I went to a meeting in New Brunswick because I was in school the whole time I was in college. I was trying to quit, which was hard to.
00:15:42
Speaker 2: Do because it's right, that's amazing one.
00:15:46
Speaker 1: Point, thank you. At one point I went to a meeting in New Brunswick and it was literally heroin addicts. Like it was very hard to the point where I was like what am I doing? Like I just couldn't I couldn't find a way to be there at that point in life, right. And I had this incredible therapist that was like too many times a week who really helped me stop. And then I had a boyfriend who was sober.
00:16:10
Speaker 2: But he didn't rehab. I didn't know.
00:16:13
Speaker 1: I didn't go to rehab.
00:16:14
Speaker 3: Because it's so hard at that age especially, But.
00:16:18
Speaker 1: That's how bad it was that I knew I had to stop saying I knew inside me I did and stuff it was going to end.
00:16:23
Speaker 2: Really, Yeah, I took a lot long, did you really?
00:16:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, you were successful. See if I had already been successful, I wouldn't have had the inspiration to stop.
00:16:34
Speaker 2: So you were trying to stop so you could have a career life.
00:16:37
Speaker 1: Yes, And that's the only reason that I that was the only thing that was more interesting to me than drinking was acting.
00:16:45
Speaker 2: Right.
00:16:45
Speaker 1: But if I had somehow been able to do both right, well.
00:16:49
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, there really is nothing like fame and disposable income when you have that addiction gene. It is brutal, But yeah, I know a lot of people stopped really young, and my god, they are their lives are great.
00:17:04
Speaker 2: I mean, it's really it's a lot.
00:17:06
Speaker 1: Of energy, right, Like you put a lot of energy into.
00:17:09
Speaker 2: Your addictions, into hiding it.
00:17:10
Speaker 1: That energy put it into your career or regular life. But I just have to bring this up because it's really on my mind. Did you see this thing about bread Pitt starting to drink?
00:17:19
Speaker 2: Yes, I did.
00:17:19
Speaker 3: I've known a lot of people who've done That've negotiated that way. Yeah, and it never in my experience, it has never ended anywhere. But like kneeling begging for death, it's never been a series.
00:17:33
Speaker 2: Well.
00:17:34
Speaker 3: The thing is that I think that is upsetting a little bit is when you start telling people you're kind of sober, but you do that and it's like, so, I'm just worried about the amount of.
00:17:46
Speaker 2: People that read that and went, oh me too. Maybe I could have a beer because you know, it was fun.
00:17:52
Speaker 3: I know we could control it, which was the first month or whatever. I know, but it never ends a different way, it does. It really doesn't that I've seen.
00:18:01
Speaker 4: I know.
00:18:02
Speaker 2: It's scary.
00:18:03
Speaker 3: Then people are like, oh, my uncle, you know, was sober and now he drinks a beer. But I'm like, I don't know, I've never met anybody that could do it. I have an either, I don't know, I have aither.
00:18:14
Speaker 1: The only thing I've met is people in our industry who are successful who say to me, you know, sometimes I think I might be an alcoholic.
00:18:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, No, I look back to it all the time, right, all the time, right, yeah.
00:18:25
Speaker 1: And I'm always like, Okay, let's have this conversation.
00:18:28
Speaker 2: Was you think that blah blah blah blah blah. And they're like, oh, but then I can do you know.
00:18:31
Speaker 1: There's a lot of negotiating within that conversation. Those people end up being alcoholics, yeah, yeah, yeah, or sex addicts yeah, for some versions. Right.
00:18:40
Speaker 3: Well, look, as I said, I wrote this book about my recovery, my addiction and recovery, and I say, look, we're all addicted to something, every single person, whether it's shopping or tanning or cigarettes or you know whatever.
00:18:53
Speaker 2: Food.
00:18:54
Speaker 3: Food is a big one, but you know what I mean, it varies. There's a huge, you know, world of it. So if you could figure out your way, I mean, I don't know, I don't see a happy ending for that.
00:19:06
Speaker 1: I mean, the thing that also made me think of it is that when you have had a lot of success and been able to do both, Yes, it makes it harder, I think to care.
00:19:15
Speaker 3: For sure, because the key to it is humility. I mean that really is the key to getting sober. I think, you know, going to the heroinatutic meeting that you don't necessarily feel at home at, going to a rehab that is full of like for my in my situation, I went with a bunch of kids from the streets. You know, I was the oldest person there. Wow, you know, so I think that's important. I think it's important, you know, to be able to like just be humbled and be like, I am the same as everybody else. So when you start as an elitist, you know, or an elite person where you can afford promises and you can afford all this gorgeous private treatment, I think one of the key elements to getting sober is law.
00:20:00
Speaker 2: You know.
00:20:01
Speaker 3: It's a good point, you know, I think you really do need to hunker down and sit in the gross meeting that you're feel weird.
00:20:06
Speaker 1: At, right, That's a good point.
00:20:08
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:20:19
Speaker 1: I mean for me it was all different because also it was eight million years ago, right, Like it was the eighties, so I didn't know anyone in AA.
00:20:29
Speaker 2: I didn't know anyone.
00:20:30
Speaker 1: To be telling me things like what you're saying, right, yeah, So I was just like lost, like I don't know how to do this. And that's what was so great about finding this therapist because he was able to help me deal with my own personal issues right that were leading me to be learning to drink so much.
00:20:46
Speaker 2: Because I had.
00:20:47
Speaker 1: Started at eleven, right, so like really young, and I don't know my biological father, but it seemed like his family had it right, So I had the gene, but I didn't know the gene. I wasn't around anyone with the gene. Well, I was around other friends who seem to have the gene.
00:21:01
Speaker 3: Right, they hadn't navigated the gene yet exactly right, But like.
00:21:05
Speaker 1: My parents weren't drinking and all I'm trying to say, it wasn't like I.
00:21:08
Speaker 2: Don't come from a fan. My mom and my dad I don't think have that issue. So it does pop up.
00:21:14
Speaker 1: It does, it does pop up, But for me, I absolutely believe in it, like I have one hundred percent believe.
00:21:21
Speaker 2: That it's you genetic.
00:21:22
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree, and I mean our genes are so complex, and they just keep discovering more and more things about them, about his relationship to them, or eating the different things, and you know, why not believe that and believe like, I need to take that seriously.
00:21:40
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's a.
00:21:41
Speaker 1: Real thing that I need to say seriously. I need to not look at whoever it is, because I've had so many people over time be like, just have one glass of yeah, yeah, yeah, oh totally no, yeah, yeah, no, take it away.
00:21:53
Speaker 2: I don't want to hold it.
00:21:54
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what I try telling you. It's just I'm allergic to it.
00:21:58
Speaker 2: I really am good. Yeah, because there was that.
00:22:01
Speaker 1: Whole time, I want to say, in the nineties or maybe the two thousands, like California sober.
00:22:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was like none in the last twenty years. Yeah, I do remember that. That's kind of I.
00:22:10
Speaker 2: Think what he's doing, that's what it seems.
00:22:12
Speaker 4: Yeah right.
00:22:12
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:22:13
Speaker 3: It's so hard though, because look, I don't want to judge anybody else's I am one of those firm believers that I don't believe you have to go to twelve step. I think it works really well for a lot of people, but it's not the only answer, and as I wrote in my book, you know, I asked this guy. This is when I was pretending to be normal and I was at this like you know, Hollywood party and I was taught there. It was an addiction specialist. I was sitting next to Okay, yeah, So I was like, you know, trying to ask him questions as a normal person as I had my two SIPs of my white wine, because that's how normal people drink anyway.
00:22:51
Speaker 2: So I asked him. I was like, so, what is the best way to get sober?
00:22:55
Speaker 3: And he said, you know, there are so many different ways, but basically, if pushing a peanut up a hill keeps you sober, then push a peanut up the hill.
00:23:03
Speaker 2: With your nose, you know what I mean, Like whatever works for you totally.
00:23:06
Speaker 3: So that's why I feel bad because I don't want to judge him. We're talking about Brad Pitt. I really don't because that may work for him. It brought up a topic that a lot of people feel very passionately about.
00:23:19
Speaker 1: It's true, and I feel like that is good, right. The thing that is scary is for people, maybe young people are people who aren't sure just to say, like you're here, Thank the Lord, right hair, yeah, and I'm here very different scenario. And you know, by the time I did get to New York in the eighties, for God's sake, that was a thing and I had to really avoid a lot. Like at that point it was wild.
00:23:50
Speaker 2: That was when I was waitressing and stuff and tables like later out in the open keys.
00:23:57
Speaker 1: I mean, it was a lot. I was waitressing as well.
00:24:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, you poor.
00:24:01
Speaker 4: Yeah, but.
00:24:03
Speaker 2: It was okay because like I.
00:24:05
Speaker 1: Could see it, you know, like at one point I had I was living in Hoboken and there was like this I think it was called the River Cafe, but not the famous one, Like right when you got off the Hoboken you're talking about. All the yuppie guys, the finance bros at the time, would come there and they would drink a lot, you know, and they would start out in their suits and I'd be like, oh, they're so handsome, they're so shiny, and then they'd just be sloppy drunk, and I would be like, thank god, I'm not doing that.
00:24:35
Speaker 3: And also, thank god I got sober before cell phones and stuff. I mean, I would have been, oh, it would have been horrible. Thank God, none of my behavior was caught on film.
00:24:45
Speaker 1: Oh god, yeah, oh oh totally.
00:24:47
Speaker 2: I'm so grateful.
00:24:48
Speaker 1: We did have a whole life that you just do kind of.
00:24:51
Speaker 3: Whatever and no one had to worry about it. So it's kind of great now. I mean your behavior has to be a little more uh quiet.
00:24:59
Speaker 2: That's true.
00:25:00
Speaker 1: You will get or you will get quickly shamed. Yes, that's true. That's true. But I do feel like people get away with a lot still.
00:25:07
Speaker 2: Yeah they do.
00:25:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know that when you were talking about all those bros being all shiny and the thing that when I got sober is when you are at a park, like, I can't go to parties really, I mean I can stay for like an hour, but after a while and it's not like I'm troubled by drinking. I don't care. I totally can hang out with people drinking, but it's just it gets so messy, yes, so fast.
00:25:28
Speaker 2: Oh I'm so boring.
00:25:31
Speaker 1: I know.
00:25:31
Speaker 2: That was what shocked me. I was like, was I this boring? Yes?
00:25:35
Speaker 1: The answer yes, yes.
00:25:38
Speaker 2: Not you in particularly for sure.
00:25:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, drinking is not like my kids are just like because there's no alcohol in our house and they think that's how everyone is, right. So my daughter just turned fifteen. I'm kind of trying to educate now, like you know, I'm unusual and that I've been sober a very long time and this is how we live. And they're like, you mean, people drink, and I'm.
00:25:59
Speaker 2: Like, people drink, Okay, guys.
00:26:02
Speaker 1: They're like alcohol like it's the cutest thing. They're also like, but people smoke cigarettes, like it's like one time they were like, my, look in.
00:26:10
Speaker 2: The car someone I'm smoking. Yeah. I wish they could always remain that. It's so dreaming. Just didn't drink around me, and look how I turned out, So you never.
00:26:23
Speaker 1: Know, you don't know. I mean, no, no, of course, I mean. Look, I'm always I mean my thing that I deal with now because my daughter just turned fifteen. She's really amazing and kind of shy and everything, but.
00:26:37
Speaker 2: You know, she is going to guard in the world at.
00:26:39
Speaker 1: Some point, and I want her to feel like she could have a drink and the world's not gonna fall down, right, Like, you know, I'm trying to find a happy medium.
00:26:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
00:26:49
Speaker 1: It's so hard. I don't imagine that alcohol to come in the house either.
00:26:53
Speaker 2: You don't want to be super strict where they want We're just going to.
00:26:56
Speaker 1: Go the other way, absolutely, And I mean there's going to be some rebellion at some point. So I tried to just prepare myself for them. Right, let's talk about LEXI a little bit.
00:27:15
Speaker 2: Oh, I'd love to.
00:27:16
Speaker 1: So they'd offered you these other parts. Were you happy that you'd waited?
00:27:19
Speaker 4: Did you?
00:27:20
Speaker 1: God?
00:27:21
Speaker 4: Yeah?
00:27:22
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I was so grateful I got to come on the show. I mean it was ending.
00:27:26
Speaker 3: I knew Sarah for years, like you know, I was so excited to be to have.
00:27:30
Speaker 1: A chance to do and look at your room of people you were in.
00:27:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh my god, the g I was, you know, whatsually that night I opened in Wally Shawn's play Aunt Dan and Lemon. That night, Yes, the night we shot LEXI. We shot in one day and that night I opened in Wally Shawn's play called Aunt Dan and Lemon.
00:27:54
Speaker 2: That is that crazy? So he yelled at me that day. What did he say? Well, no, I'm sad. He was like, you know, I don't remember what his line was, but he was just like, there's no smoking. Remember, Oh he's because he comes up to you.
00:28:06
Speaker 1: He's really kind of in some ways the impetus for you falling because you're trying to find a place to smoke. Kennas tells you Kansas character tells you that you can't smoke inside. You like, but there is no outside, it's snowing, and then you crank the thing open.
00:28:21
Speaker 2: And that's when he comes.
00:28:22
Speaker 1: You Remember where you filmed?
00:28:24
Speaker 3: Yes, it was Silver Cup. I think, oh, you were in.
00:28:26
Speaker 1: A Silver Cup because it looks like Darren Starr's apartment.
00:28:30
Speaker 2: I think they to.
00:28:31
Speaker 3: Make it on that, you know, because I had to actually fall out the window. So there was a big mattress and they had a stunt woman do it too.
00:28:39
Speaker 2: I don't know which footage they ended up. I can't tell. And it looks like you it's might have been heard too, so I don't know.
00:28:45
Speaker 1: I don't want to miss No, of course you call it. But the reason I bring it up is because he lived in the not Trump pleasant word Trump himself lives, but like one Central Park, you know, right in front of the circle. He lived there for a very long time. We would have these parties there every year and there were no windows, you know what I mean, Like you're.
00:29:04
Speaker 3: So many people say to me, like, how could they ever have windows like that?
00:29:07
Speaker 2: It took me on the scene and there are windows like that.
00:29:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, people don't understand New York stuff like like also with Carrie's apartment in and just like that, the one the that's very very realistic, and people were all on the internet like why would her kitchen be so small? I'm like, you guys need to do more research.
00:29:26
Speaker 2: Okay, please do Yeah, no, exactly.
00:29:30
Speaker 1: The century, don't you know apartments exactly? Oh my god, exactly anyway, Okay, so that is crazy that you were in a play by Walashan. And also how did we get Walashan to be on the show?
00:29:42
Speaker 2: I have no idea. I don't know.
00:29:44
Speaker 3: I mean, look, I mean he's the best you probably I think he and Kandas are friends.
00:29:49
Speaker 1: Oh it was probably. It was Obviously she ends up with him at your funeral, which is so adorable, and he's a food critic.
00:29:58
Speaker 2: I also the.
00:29:59
Speaker 3: PROMI me the cover of New York Post that said splat with my picture and they never sent it to me.
00:30:06
Speaker 2: I'm so bitter about it.
00:30:07
Speaker 1: Yeah I can get a hold of it. I will, But you know what happened.
00:30:11
Speaker 2: I would owe you for life.
00:30:12
Speaker 1: Well listen, they also promised me my wedding ring with Kyle, which I had picked out here in LA from the jewelry designer whose name I'm not going to remember. I went to her house. I had to convince her to send us jewelry. She didn't really know the show or whatever.
00:30:27
Speaker 2: It was it real, Oh my god, I love your show. Everything was.
00:30:34
Speaker 3: I would get like, you know, one of those whatever fake diamonds, exactly right, and.
00:30:39
Speaker 1: We got the real I mean that one wasn't a big when I do get like the Tiffany wedding you know, engagement ring that it was real for a day. And the space, yeah, yeah, they're not going to let me walk around. I was going to say big rock, no, but this was like I don't know, four thousand dollars maybe or something like that, right, And I had picked it and our mistress who I'm just going to not say her name right now, had promised me that I could have that ring. And then when we wrapped, it was chaos.
00:31:07
Speaker 2: Yeah, you wrapped the whole things were missing. Really figure out who it was.
00:31:14
Speaker 1: I think someone figured out who it was. I don't even want to get into. But the drama, it was a drama. Okay, it was a drama, so that ring was questioning it? Yeah, yeah, that ring was gone. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know where it went, but it would have been weird to keep anyway. I don't know quite what I thought. Was I going to wear Charlotte's wedding ring around?
00:31:30
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's a good memento totally. I would have framed that sucker. Oh it's so glad.
00:31:36
Speaker 2: I would have kept it for life.
00:31:37
Speaker 1: But when flat and what does the other one say? There's two?
00:31:41
Speaker 2: Oh right, maybe they used the other one they.
00:31:43
Speaker 1: Used both watched it last night. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because like they're so funny.
00:31:48
Speaker 2: They called me.
00:31:48
Speaker 3: They were like, can you rewatch the episode to come on? And I'm like, you don't understand. I've seen every scene five thousand times on memes.
00:31:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's always it's true, I think for me because I watched it at the time, but then I haven't watched it all since. Right, And when you do watch the whole episode, there's some scenes that aren't really that memorable, Right, there's stuff you don't remember at all. Yeah, and this episode for sure. I mean, of course I remember your part because it's so but like I don't remember that you go in in the bathroom. Really, oh yeah, I didn't remember that, and I didn't remember the one.
00:32:26
Speaker 3: She comes in and she's so like, my life is totally together, and it just I think that's the reason Lexi falls, like, that's the last straw.
00:32:36
Speaker 2: I think you're right, you know, I think you're right. Carrie Bradshaw's found someone totally oh my.
00:32:42
Speaker 1: God, not even someone but like Ershnikoff as an artist, like what yeah, and he's taking her to Paris. But she doesn't tell you, but we know.
00:32:51
Speaker 2: But she knows. It's the end of an era.
00:32:53
Speaker 1: It is the end of an era.
00:32:54
Speaker 2: Now she is the last one at the party. It's truely, it's sad.
00:32:58
Speaker 1: It is sad, and I feel set for Candace too, Candace's character. I'm just like, oh, she doesn't have a plus one tour.
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Speaker 2: No, I think you meant can Bush No was like girl.
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Speaker 1: No, I feel fine, yeah, totally yeah. We yes we are on the video but yes, I know what you're saying. Kandas is doing fine. We had her on the podcast.
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Speaker 2: Good oh good.
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Speaker 3: No, you know remember when he said, I think you got to ask Michael Patrick King this, but I think he based it on Amy Sacho was the owner of oh my god, yeah, Bungalow eight at the time, and a fabulous person.
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Speaker 2: By the way, I love her. She's that's so that's who I did. Oh my gosh. I totally forgot that she was the she was the girl of the nineties in New York. She really was.
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Speaker 3: She owned bung she ran Bungalow eight and all these other really top of the line clubs.
00:33:51
Speaker 2: And I hung out with her a couple of times. Wow, she was hilarious.
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Speaker 1: Well, we have that other episode where she goes Carrie goes to Bungalow eight and Lily's there and then she leaves. She's with them, she's.
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Speaker 2: With them, Mari Marlan. Yes, Oh, he's such a genius. My god.
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Speaker 1: Right, he was on her show and he takes Carrie to Bungalow eight and Stanford comes in. Stanford's shoalous because she has another yay guy and then he's not paying enough attention to her or whatever.
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Speaker 2: She leaves.
00:34:19
Speaker 1: It's all very weird, But like that was when I'm really like, oh, we've got our pulse. We're taking the pulse of New York.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally.
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Speaker 1: Michael Patrick was writing about Amy sacho, I'd forgot.
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Speaker 3: He's yeah, exactly, He's so interesting that actor.
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Speaker 2: I loveless, God, why does he do this show?
00:34:38
Speaker 1: I don't know? For everyone? He tells her to come.
00:34:41
Speaker 2: Lives in Australia, so who knows?
00:34:44
Speaker 1: Who knows? Okay, So thank you so much for joining us with Kristin Johnston. Love to see her and look for her new show, leanne Is Season two is coming to Netflix on August twenty seventh. So so happy for her success. We love her so much and she will be back when we get to the rewatch of episode six eighteen splat, So stay tuned for more Kristen Johnson in a while