March 31, 2026
Kristi Noem Responds To Allegations Of Husband’s “Double Life”
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RSS Feed Former DHS Secretary Kristi Noem has said she is “devastated” and “blindsided” by reports that her husband is a cross dresser who has a “bimbofication” fetish. Noem has been married to her husband Bryon for 34 years, the two are high school sweethearts and share 3 children together.
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Speaker 1: Hey there, folks, it is Tuesday, March thirty first, and please please be kind to Christoan, her husband, and her family right now. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Brogue. This is not an episode we were planning to do or would have done, had Christinome just a little while ago put out a statement responding to some pretty I guess, unbelievable, devastating in very private revelations about her husband. But now that she's addressed it, Robue, this has become a different type of story.
00:00:40
Speaker 2: Yes, there are all sorts of rumors swirling about her husband, and look, we would never have touched these. I don't think I think it's fair to say with a ten foot poll had she not, as you mentioned, responded to this. But this is about her husband, Brian, and.
00:01:01
Speaker 3: Perhaps his well, go Ahead's it's okay.
00:01:05
Speaker 1: It's it's difficult to try to describe because we debated, how do you say this? It's okay? Accused of cross dressing.
00:01:12
Speaker 2: Used in cross dressing, and having a bimbo fetish where he apparently likes to dress with large boobs and share photos. And these photos have been discovered and have been published now and Yes, Christy Nome has responded to the photos being published, the story being reported about her husband's sexual preferences.
00:01:36
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's why I say be kind. I mean robes, anything that comes, She's going to get attacked no matter what. And something like this having to do with her family, A lot of people would have smiles on their faces and glad she's being to some degree humiliated. But we just gotta be careful, and I would just say kind, This is pretty tough stuff for a family to go through, for your personal life, to be her own out in this way, and to have the kind of heat and comments that are coming obviously with us robes to a certain degree, in a level there is no matter what, a degree of sympathy for what is coming the Famili's way. Yes, not just her and about politics. This is or can be robes. This is private stuff that is now public and it's kind of.
00:02:29
Speaker 2: Devastating, yes, being made very very public, and of course all coming within weeks of Christinoan being pushed out of a very prominent, high profile role as the Secretary of Homeland Security. So she loses her position in a very public and I would say humiliating way apparently moments before she was going on stage about to give a speech. She had to make her way through this speech with everyone reporting this breaking news that she's lost her job. And yes, now this and this is her husband of many, many years, This is a couple who married in nineteen ninety two.
00:03:05
Speaker 3: Helped me do that.
00:03:06
Speaker 1: Last surprised to hear that, bab was that how many years ago?
00:03:09
Speaker 3: Thirty four years?
00:03:10
Speaker 1: I was very surprised to hear they've been married the.
00:03:13
Speaker 2: Long thirty four years of marriage. They were high school sweethearts in South Dakota. They worked together on her family's farm, and then she went into politics, he went into the insurance business. So it was this midwestern, you know, love story.
00:03:32
Speaker 3: And then they went on.
00:03:33
Speaker 2: To have three children who are now adults, Cassidy Kennedy and Buker.
00:03:37
Speaker 3: Two daughters and a son. And so yeah, kind of like this.
00:03:41
Speaker 2: All American farming family that is now in political power.
00:03:47
Speaker 1: You have. I'm so sorry to put you on the spot if you don't have a general idea of the ages of the kids.
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Speaker 3: Now, yes, I actually do have that.
00:03:54
Speaker 1: So Cassidy.
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Speaker 3: Cassidy is their oldest daughter. She's thirty one.
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Speaker 2: She's been involved in her mom political campaigns and in just her professional life. She has children of her own, so she Cassidy made Christy and her husband Brian grandparents. Then their next youngest child, her name is Kennedy, and she also served as a policy analyst in her mom's gubernatorial office there in South Dakota, so she was a part of all of that. And right now she also founded a pilates studio. And then they have a son who's around Booker is his name. He is twenty three and he is their only sons.
00:04:35
Speaker 1: How many do you say, one grandkid? Two?
00:04:38
Speaker 2: I don't know how many grandkids they have, but I know that they do have grandchildren.
00:04:42
Speaker 1: Yes, so we a story like this, and we're going to read her statement here in a second. But a story like this world is as people want to poke fun. I know, I know social media, I know it's tough. I know tabloid media is tough, tough, tough toughes, and something like this just caution people not just be as kind as you can, because it's not just about Christy Gnome. They are grandparents. I mean, they have kids, they have kids that work in offices with other people in around. It's just there's a whole community and family that's now dealing with something that's very private now public, and it can be humiligating what you do behind closed doors. Knock yourself out, fine, but something like this it's hard to take. And I know people are taking joy in it. It's just it just take no joy in something like this happening.
00:05:37
Speaker 2: I think after everything we've been through, it was one thing to be even in the media and reporting on things and also having public and private lives.
00:05:47
Speaker 3: It's still you don't know what.
00:05:49
Speaker 2: It actually feels like until you are at the center of some controversy or some negative spotlight, and until you've actually experienced not just what it does to you, what it does to your parents, to your siblings, to your children, to your aunts, to your uncles, to your cousins, to everyone who has your last name, to everyone who is associated with you.
00:06:12
Speaker 3: You're outer circles.
00:06:14
Speaker 2: This is something that is humiliating to an extension you can't possibly fully recognize until you've lived it. And so, yes, we may many of us, many of you might not agree with Christy Nome's policies or even how she delivered her policies, but she's still a human being, And I just this is a moment I think where you can say, Okay, I just hate when people kind of jump on something like this and say, yeah, she deserves it. This is called karma, this is what's coming to her. I just would I think this is where we would ask people just to recognize this as something that is tragic on a human level and put politics aside and just recognize that someone is hurting, because this is a painful, painful thing to go through, not just for yourself but for everyone you love.
00:07:06
Speaker 1: Les we should hold on to that. That's a great point, Robes Away to put it. This is tragic on a human level, and this is devastating to a human being, and this can to have it thrown out there in this way. I just can't imagine just the kids and the family, and the extended family and the extended friends and everybody who has touched with the family in any way is having to deal with this now. So Ropes, I don't it's hard to look at it at this point of we need to read her statement now to try to maybe further understand this story. So here we go. The stuff had kind of been out there and been talked about rumors for the most part, and stuff covered on in tabloids and whatnot. And then she responded to it and this is what she said, very short statement though ropes.
00:07:55
Speaker 2: Miss Gnome is devastated. The family was blindsided by this, and they asked for privacy and prayers at this.
00:08:05
Speaker 1: Time, and that was it. That was it, they acknowledged, right, But what I mean, you can I mean, that could be very very carefully written. We look at a lot of pr statements and releases over the years, robes and words matter, and they chose several ones in particular, and there's some things they could have said that they didn't say.
00:08:25
Speaker 2: Yes, So just to even acknowledge she's devastated means obviously that this is something she's upset by and then didn't know about. But what is it that she didn't know about?
00:08:36
Speaker 1: Well, I will stop at the she was the first thing. She's devastated that period after this period period, Okay, she's devastated by what though, you really can make the argument she's devastated that this is out. She's devastated because she just found out. She's devastated because she's been talked about on social media. What exactly she devastated by That's how I took the first part.
00:08:57
Speaker 2: Okay, then the family was blindsided by this, by this what the revelations about. I mean, this would be the obvious presumption that they are.
00:09:08
Speaker 3: Speaking specifically to Yes.
00:09:10
Speaker 2: But that's what you have to do in this point, at this point with that ambiguous response this, But you would have to think that that is referencing this. Are these photos that we're seeing of him cross dressing and some of the payments that have been revealed that he has made to these bimbofication websites, these fetish websites that I didn't even know existed. So yeah, this would be yes, the allegations that are now out there with photographic evidence.
00:09:41
Speaker 1: See, I am looking and reading this so differently. I am looking and reading to this as they left an opening here for him to be not guilty. They're leaving it open. They're not actually saying he did any of this. She didn't say she's devastated to learn of her husband's behavior. He's just saying she's devastated. They could leave room here for a lot of stuff, and they didn't condemn him. They did not, And for me, that was intentional, and she could have buried him, can't believe he had been up to such things, can't believe this was hidden from her, can't believe she has been betrayed, can't believe they could have said a lot of stuff. But there's nothing in there that even close to suggests that she's saying, Yes, he's guilty of the things he's being accused.
00:10:29
Speaker 3: You're correct, I mean, yes you are. And look, that is probably the very smart way to look at it.
00:10:34
Speaker 2: This has been carefully and specifically crafted through a pr That's amazing, though, ro someone who knows a lot more about public relations than we do. Yes, but that would make sense that you leave openings to have different outcomes based on what you need them to be, based on what information comes out.
00:10:54
Speaker 1: Devastated by blank, blindsided by this which is blank. That is really interesting when you dive into these things. However, folks, I don't know how deep of a dive Robes necessarily did. But there's this term I never heard before today, bembo fication. Do I have that right, Robes?
00:11:15
Speaker 3: Yes?
00:11:15
Speaker 1: All right, well stay here, we'll try to explain what that is.
00:11:30
Speaker 2: Welcome back everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ, where we are talking about former Department of Homeland Security Secretary Christy Noome dealing with some pretty horrific headlines about her husband today, a lot of folks saying that he is a secret cross dresser who has a bimbo fication fetish, and she has directly addressed some of these reports by saying she's devastated.
00:12:00
Speaker 1: I consider something here. Is it devastating that people are into whatever they're into. It's just that people found out about it, and now it's supposed to be embarrassing if this worked for them in their private lives. I mean to make it, what business is it. I'm not mad that he does whatever he wants to do in his private life. If his wife has a problem with it, then okay, But that's for them to suss out.
00:12:25
Speaker 2: Well, yes, and for her to say that she was blindsided by it would indicate that she was not aware of it, or she's at least yes saying she does not know or was not aware of this beforehand.
00:12:39
Speaker 1: Again, I look at it. She possibly could saying she's devastated by it getting out publicly. It left the room in that statement to give her a little wiggle room if it ever comes out down the road that maybe she knew about this at a time.
00:12:54
Speaker 3: So here's the weird thing.
00:12:55
Speaker 2: So if you look up what bimbofication is, it's basically a fetish that is that's centered around women becoming real life Barbie dolls with gigantic proportions. What how weird is that when you think about Christy Nomes Moniker, not one that she wanted that was meant as a critic.
00:13:19
Speaker 3: She was literally called obviously ice Barbie.
00:13:21
Speaker 2: Right, So now to hear that her husband is being accused of bimofication, where that is what it's described as a kink centered around women becoming real life Barbie dolls with gigantic proportions and often acting airheady. So that's like something that people are into, big boobs, airheads think.
00:13:47
Speaker 3: That kind of a thing. But like, yeah, Barbie.
00:13:49
Speaker 1: Dolls, if you're into whatever you're into, like yourself. Now, I think I got no problem with that. I just it's a tough time for that family. Yeah, And I I don't obviously, you don't, obviously, but I hope no one would take any joy in seeing this happen to somebody's face.
00:14:09
Speaker 3: It's tough.
00:14:11
Speaker 1: No one takes joy in that. And if you are, ask yourself a couple of questions if you are. But even so, this is just not fun and funny in a joke, and plenty of jokes are flying, and you could only imagine if you haven't looked already broke some of the stuff that's out there, you've read some of it, right.
00:14:30
Speaker 2: Yes, And look, I think the word to describe it as it feels humiliating, whether it should be or not. I can only imagine that is what it would feel like. And I feel like this is a story in which you would say, I wouldn't wish that upon my worst enemy. I really do think that because this is one of those things where, look, I think we understand there's a you can experience a lot of things in your life, but when you experience shame, shame that is imposed on you, whether you deserved it or not, that is one of the world feelings in the world.
00:15:01
Speaker 3: It truly is.
00:15:02
Speaker 2: And I feel like that is what I think of when I think about how christ you know, might be feeling, how maybe even her children are feeling, how anyone who has been a part of that family or loved any of them is feeling. That's just I just think that is one of the worst feelings a human being can feel's shame, especially when it isn't earned, especially when it isn't something that you necessarily did, and yet you endure it.
00:15:30
Speaker 3: It's it's tough.
00:15:30
Speaker 1: Did he do anything other than have his private life exposed? I don't know what the story is between him and his wife. I don't know, see, I don't know. It's just it's just all for a family. And so that's all we can ask is folks, just be kind, Just be as kind as you can, offer a little grace. And what was the line I wanted to remember you had earlier? Robe, I forgot it already, But just a matter of being a decent human.
00:16:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.
00:16:01
Speaker 2: Look, I think, for instance, when you think about Christy Noman, she took a hard stance, took a hard line on a lot of folks.
00:16:08
Speaker 3: So people might want to.
00:16:09
Speaker 2: Return that now in this moment, and I can imagine how easy and how good it might feel to say aha, karma, or at least return the fire that was incoming or at least felt like it was coming towards you.
00:16:22
Speaker 3: This is an opportunity not to return fire.
00:16:25
Speaker 2: This is an opportunity to say okay, she may have fired shots, but I'm not going to return fire. And like that is the moment where plenty of us can rise above. And I think that it's a moment. It's a moment of opportunity, in a moment not to get down down in the mud with others that we've certainly seen. And I just think every one of us on an individual level can do something and collectively maybe maybe we can. We can take some of this conversation, the way we've been speaking and addressing each other, just take it to a higher level, a better level.
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Speaker 3: And this is an opportunity.
00:17:05
Speaker 1: Doesn't that feel better? If you think she has wronged you to treat her better, then you think she treated you or your fellow American, treat her better.
00:17:15
Speaker 2: That's what we need, right, Someone has to start it, somebody right, and the person who does gets it and they're actually the happier person.
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Speaker 3: Yes, hurt, people hurt, So try to remember.
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Speaker 2: That, all right, without everyone, We always appreciate you listening to us. I made me robot alongside DJ Holmes. We will talk to you soon.
Speaker 1: Hey there, folks, it is Tuesday, March thirty first, and please please be kind to Christoan, her husband, and her family right now. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Brogue. This is not an episode we were planning to do or would have done, had Christinome just a little while ago put out a statement responding to some pretty I guess, unbelievable, devastating in very private revelations about her husband. But now that she's addressed it, Robue, this has become a different type of story.
00:00:40
Speaker 2: Yes, there are all sorts of rumors swirling about her husband, and look, we would never have touched these. I don't think I think it's fair to say with a ten foot poll had she not, as you mentioned, responded to this. But this is about her husband, Brian, and.
00:01:01
Speaker 3: Perhaps his well, go Ahead's it's okay.
00:01:05
Speaker 1: It's it's difficult to try to describe because we debated, how do you say this? It's okay? Accused of cross dressing.
00:01:12
Speaker 2: Used in cross dressing, and having a bimbo fetish where he apparently likes to dress with large boobs and share photos. And these photos have been discovered and have been published now and Yes, Christy Nome has responded to the photos being published, the story being reported about her husband's sexual preferences.
00:01:36
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's why I say be kind. I mean robes, anything that comes, She's going to get attacked no matter what. And something like this having to do with her family, A lot of people would have smiles on their faces and glad she's being to some degree humiliated. But we just gotta be careful, and I would just say kind, This is pretty tough stuff for a family to go through, for your personal life, to be her own out in this way, and to have the kind of heat and comments that are coming obviously with us robes to a certain degree, in a level there is no matter what, a degree of sympathy for what is coming the Famili's way. Yes, not just her and about politics. This is or can be robes. This is private stuff that is now public and it's kind of.
00:02:29
Speaker 2: Devastating, yes, being made very very public, and of course all coming within weeks of Christinoan being pushed out of a very prominent, high profile role as the Secretary of Homeland Security. So she loses her position in a very public and I would say humiliating way apparently moments before she was going on stage about to give a speech. She had to make her way through this speech with everyone reporting this breaking news that she's lost her job. And yes, now this and this is her husband of many, many years, This is a couple who married in nineteen ninety two.
00:03:05
Speaker 3: Helped me do that.
00:03:06
Speaker 1: Last surprised to hear that, bab was that how many years ago?
00:03:09
Speaker 3: Thirty four years?
00:03:10
Speaker 1: I was very surprised to hear they've been married the.
00:03:13
Speaker 2: Long thirty four years of marriage. They were high school sweethearts in South Dakota. They worked together on her family's farm, and then she went into politics, he went into the insurance business. So it was this midwestern, you know, love story.
00:03:32
Speaker 3: And then they went on.
00:03:33
Speaker 2: To have three children who are now adults, Cassidy Kennedy and Buker.
00:03:37
Speaker 3: Two daughters and a son. And so yeah, kind of like this.
00:03:41
Speaker 2: All American farming family that is now in political power.
00:03:47
Speaker 1: You have. I'm so sorry to put you on the spot if you don't have a general idea of the ages of the kids.
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Speaker 3: Now, yes, I actually do have that.
00:03:54
Speaker 1: So Cassidy.
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Speaker 3: Cassidy is their oldest daughter. She's thirty one.
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Speaker 2: She's been involved in her mom political campaigns and in just her professional life. She has children of her own, so she Cassidy made Christy and her husband Brian grandparents. Then their next youngest child, her name is Kennedy, and she also served as a policy analyst in her mom's gubernatorial office there in South Dakota, so she was a part of all of that. And right now she also founded a pilates studio. And then they have a son who's around Booker is his name. He is twenty three and he is their only sons.
00:04:35
Speaker 1: How many do you say, one grandkid? Two?
00:04:38
Speaker 2: I don't know how many grandkids they have, but I know that they do have grandchildren.
00:04:42
Speaker 1: Yes, so we a story like this, and we're going to read her statement here in a second. But a story like this world is as people want to poke fun. I know, I know social media, I know it's tough. I know tabloid media is tough, tough, tough toughes, and something like this just caution people not just be as kind as you can, because it's not just about Christy Gnome. They are grandparents. I mean, they have kids, they have kids that work in offices with other people in around. It's just there's a whole community and family that's now dealing with something that's very private now public, and it can be humiligating what you do behind closed doors. Knock yourself out, fine, but something like this it's hard to take. And I know people are taking joy in it. It's just it just take no joy in something like this happening.
00:05:37
Speaker 2: I think after everything we've been through, it was one thing to be even in the media and reporting on things and also having public and private lives.
00:05:47
Speaker 3: It's still you don't know what.
00:05:49
Speaker 2: It actually feels like until you are at the center of some controversy or some negative spotlight, and until you've actually experienced not just what it does to you, what it does to your parents, to your siblings, to your children, to your aunts, to your uncles, to your cousins, to everyone who has your last name, to everyone who is associated with you.
00:06:12
Speaker 3: You're outer circles.
00:06:14
Speaker 2: This is something that is humiliating to an extension you can't possibly fully recognize until you've lived it. And so, yes, we may many of us, many of you might not agree with Christy Nome's policies or even how she delivered her policies, but she's still a human being, And I just this is a moment I think where you can say, Okay, I just hate when people kind of jump on something like this and say, yeah, she deserves it. This is called karma, this is what's coming to her. I just would I think this is where we would ask people just to recognize this as something that is tragic on a human level and put politics aside and just recognize that someone is hurting, because this is a painful, painful thing to go through, not just for yourself but for everyone you love.
00:07:06
Speaker 1: Les we should hold on to that. That's a great point, Robes Away to put it. This is tragic on a human level, and this is devastating to a human being, and this can to have it thrown out there in this way. I just can't imagine just the kids and the family, and the extended family and the extended friends and everybody who has touched with the family in any way is having to deal with this now. So Ropes, I don't it's hard to look at it at this point of we need to read her statement now to try to maybe further understand this story. So here we go. The stuff had kind of been out there and been talked about rumors for the most part, and stuff covered on in tabloids and whatnot. And then she responded to it and this is what she said, very short statement though ropes.
00:07:55
Speaker 2: Miss Gnome is devastated. The family was blindsided by this, and they asked for privacy and prayers at this.
00:08:05
Speaker 1: Time, and that was it. That was it, they acknowledged, right, But what I mean, you can I mean, that could be very very carefully written. We look at a lot of pr statements and releases over the years, robes and words matter, and they chose several ones in particular, and there's some things they could have said that they didn't say.
00:08:25
Speaker 2: Yes, So just to even acknowledge she's devastated means obviously that this is something she's upset by and then didn't know about. But what is it that she didn't know about?
00:08:36
Speaker 1: Well, I will stop at the she was the first thing. She's devastated that period after this period period, Okay, she's devastated by what though, you really can make the argument she's devastated that this is out. She's devastated because she just found out. She's devastated because she's been talked about on social media. What exactly she devastated by That's how I took the first part.
00:08:57
Speaker 2: Okay, then the family was blindsided by this, by this what the revelations about. I mean, this would be the obvious presumption that they are.
00:09:08
Speaker 3: Speaking specifically to Yes.
00:09:10
Speaker 2: But that's what you have to do in this point, at this point with that ambiguous response this, But you would have to think that that is referencing this. Are these photos that we're seeing of him cross dressing and some of the payments that have been revealed that he has made to these bimbofication websites, these fetish websites that I didn't even know existed. So yeah, this would be yes, the allegations that are now out there with photographic evidence.
00:09:41
Speaker 1: See, I am looking and reading this so differently. I am looking and reading to this as they left an opening here for him to be not guilty. They're leaving it open. They're not actually saying he did any of this. She didn't say she's devastated to learn of her husband's behavior. He's just saying she's devastated. They could leave room here for a lot of stuff, and they didn't condemn him. They did not, And for me, that was intentional, and she could have buried him, can't believe he had been up to such things, can't believe this was hidden from her, can't believe she has been betrayed, can't believe they could have said a lot of stuff. But there's nothing in there that even close to suggests that she's saying, Yes, he's guilty of the things he's being accused.
00:10:29
Speaker 3: You're correct, I mean, yes you are. And look, that is probably the very smart way to look at it.
00:10:34
Speaker 2: This has been carefully and specifically crafted through a pr That's amazing, though, ro someone who knows a lot more about public relations than we do. Yes, but that would make sense that you leave openings to have different outcomes based on what you need them to be, based on what information comes out.
00:10:54
Speaker 1: Devastated by blank, blindsided by this which is blank. That is really interesting when you dive into these things. However, folks, I don't know how deep of a dive Robes necessarily did. But there's this term I never heard before today, bembo fication. Do I have that right, Robes?
00:11:15
Speaker 3: Yes?
00:11:15
Speaker 1: All right, well stay here, we'll try to explain what that is.
00:11:30
Speaker 2: Welcome back everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ, where we are talking about former Department of Homeland Security Secretary Christy Noome dealing with some pretty horrific headlines about her husband today, a lot of folks saying that he is a secret cross dresser who has a bimbo fication fetish, and she has directly addressed some of these reports by saying she's devastated.
00:12:00
Speaker 1: I consider something here. Is it devastating that people are into whatever they're into. It's just that people found out about it, and now it's supposed to be embarrassing if this worked for them in their private lives. I mean to make it, what business is it. I'm not mad that he does whatever he wants to do in his private life. If his wife has a problem with it, then okay, But that's for them to suss out.
00:12:25
Speaker 2: Well, yes, and for her to say that she was blindsided by it would indicate that she was not aware of it, or she's at least yes saying she does not know or was not aware of this beforehand.
00:12:39
Speaker 1: Again, I look at it. She possibly could saying she's devastated by it getting out publicly. It left the room in that statement to give her a little wiggle room if it ever comes out down the road that maybe she knew about this at a time.
00:12:54
Speaker 3: So here's the weird thing.
00:12:55
Speaker 2: So if you look up what bimbofication is, it's basically a fetish that is that's centered around women becoming real life Barbie dolls with gigantic proportions. What how weird is that when you think about Christy Nomes Moniker, not one that she wanted that was meant as a critic.
00:13:19
Speaker 3: She was literally called obviously ice Barbie.
00:13:21
Speaker 2: Right, So now to hear that her husband is being accused of bimofication, where that is what it's described as a kink centered around women becoming real life Barbie dolls with gigantic proportions and often acting airheady. So that's like something that people are into, big boobs, airheads think.
00:13:47
Speaker 3: That kind of a thing. But like, yeah, Barbie.
00:13:49
Speaker 1: Dolls, if you're into whatever you're into, like yourself. Now, I think I got no problem with that. I just it's a tough time for that family. Yeah, And I I don't obviously, you don't, obviously, but I hope no one would take any joy in seeing this happen to somebody's face.
00:14:09
Speaker 3: It's tough.
00:14:11
Speaker 1: No one takes joy in that. And if you are, ask yourself a couple of questions if you are. But even so, this is just not fun and funny in a joke, and plenty of jokes are flying, and you could only imagine if you haven't looked already broke some of the stuff that's out there, you've read some of it, right.
00:14:30
Speaker 2: Yes, And look, I think the word to describe it as it feels humiliating, whether it should be or not. I can only imagine that is what it would feel like. And I feel like this is a story in which you would say, I wouldn't wish that upon my worst enemy. I really do think that because this is one of those things where, look, I think we understand there's a you can experience a lot of things in your life, but when you experience shame, shame that is imposed on you, whether you deserved it or not, that is one of the world feelings in the world.
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Speaker 3: It truly is.
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Speaker 2: And I feel like that is what I think of when I think about how christ you know, might be feeling, how maybe even her children are feeling, how anyone who has been a part of that family or loved any of them is feeling. That's just I just think that is one of the worst feelings a human being can feel's shame, especially when it isn't earned, especially when it isn't something that you necessarily did, and yet you endure it.
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Speaker 3: It's it's tough.
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Speaker 1: Did he do anything other than have his private life exposed? I don't know what the story is between him and his wife. I don't know, see, I don't know. It's just it's just all for a family. And so that's all we can ask is folks, just be kind, Just be as kind as you can, offer a little grace. And what was the line I wanted to remember you had earlier? Robe, I forgot it already, But just a matter of being a decent human.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think.
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Speaker 2: Look, I think, for instance, when you think about Christy Noman, she took a hard stance, took a hard line on a lot of folks.
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Speaker 3: So people might want to.
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Speaker 2: Return that now in this moment, and I can imagine how easy and how good it might feel to say aha, karma, or at least return the fire that was incoming or at least felt like it was coming towards you.
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Speaker 3: This is an opportunity not to return fire.
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Speaker 2: This is an opportunity to say okay, she may have fired shots, but I'm not going to return fire. And like that is the moment where plenty of us can rise above. And I think that it's a moment. It's a moment of opportunity, in a moment not to get down down in the mud with others that we've certainly seen. And I just think every one of us on an individual level can do something and collectively maybe maybe we can. We can take some of this conversation, the way we've been speaking and addressing each other, just take it to a higher level, a better level.
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Speaker 3: And this is an opportunity.
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Speaker 1: Doesn't that feel better? If you think she has wronged you to treat her better, then you think she treated you or your fellow American, treat her better.
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Speaker 2: That's what we need, right, Someone has to start it, somebody right, and the person who does gets it and they're actually the happier person.
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Speaker 3: Yes, hurt, people hurt, So try to remember.
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Speaker 2: That, all right, without everyone, We always appreciate you listening to us. I made me robot alongside DJ Holmes. We will talk to you soon.