Oct. 13, 2026
Kimberly Guilfoyle Resigns Ambassadorship, As Trump Donor Announces Plans To Sue Her
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RSS Feed Shortly after Trump’s new press secretary made news by revealing the President asked Kimberly Guilfoyle to resign her position as U.S. Ambassador to Greece, Guilfoyle kinda sorta made a resignation announcement on X. The former ambassador didn’t use the word “resign”, but instead acknowledged that her “time as Ambassador may be coming to an end.” Guilfoyle also addressed “the recent allegations” against her, calling them false, saying she intends to vigorously defend her name. Meantime the Trump donor who Guilfoyle allegedly begged to pay her American Express bill is making the media rounds, saying he intends to sue Guilfoyle for defamation in the coming days.
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Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Tuesday, October 13th, and it's not every day that we get a breaking news headline having to do with the U.S. ambassador to Greece. But yeah, this one rises to the level. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and T.J.
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Speaker 2: Robeson.
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Speaker 1: Kind of saw this writing on the wall. I think we actually wrote it like that in our morning run. Kimberly Guilfoyle's time and her days as ambassador were numbered.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I think everyone knew that based on the reporting that came out earlier. And then President Trump basically publicly saying he wasn't so happy with her. So the writing was clearly on the wall. And then we heard it was a bit of a shocking announcement. It was one of the only bits of actual news we got out of the press secretary's first day with her press.
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Speaker 3: Briefing there, Katie Zacharias. But she announced.
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Speaker 1: Zachariah.
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Speaker 3: Zachariah.
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Speaker 1: Zachariah.
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Speaker 3: Zachariah.
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Speaker 1: How long did it take us with Levitt? Carolyn Levitt? Carolyn Levitt. We didn't have any problems with that.
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Speaker 3: Katie Zachariah.
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Speaker 1: Katie Zachariah.
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Speaker 3: I'll have it.
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Speaker 2: Down in at least, hopefully by the next time I have to say it.
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Speaker 1: And hopefully she still has the job the way they're talking about her already. We'll get into that later.
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 2: But Katie Zachariah dropped a bomb and quickly moved on that the president asked for Kimberly Guilfoyle's resignation.
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Speaker 3: And shortly thereafter... Said resignation-ish landed on Twitter, on X?
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Speaker 1: What, the press briefing was supposed to start at 9.30 Eastern, started about 9.45 Eastern this morning. By 11.17 a.m. Eastern, Ambassador Guilfoyle was the former. ambassador guilford her statement was out within two.
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Speaker 2: Hours yeah i was amazed i googled her name shortly thereafter and it already had former u.s ambassador to greece under her name within yes an hour of hearing that president trump asked for her resignation.
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Speaker 1: They've had that headline ready to go for days now.
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Speaker 2: Yeah they were like just ready to hit send that's all it took yeah But we heard from Kimberly directly. And she never kind of, like, wasn't it interesting that in her very long post on X, it doesn't actually ever say, I am resigning my post.
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Speaker 1: That is by design. She didn't mention that she had been asked either to resign her post. So it was a little bizarre. But this has been, well, this has been a mess. that the White House, the administration doesn't need because it reads with the rest of the administration of people who think that these folks are out for themselves, who are peddling power and influence and making as much money as they can to have the U.S. ambassador to Greece who was one walk down an aisle short of being in President Trump's family. That woman has been trying to sell influence to the tune of hundreds of thousands and even a million bucks from a guy. Robes, this was ugly. And because it was so in line with what many people think about this administration, a couple of weeks from the midterms, Kimberly's got to go.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're exactly three weeks from the midterm elections and the president is already dealing with all of the negative economy headlines that are directly traced back to him. It's not as if he can just say, well, it's just happening on my watch and I'm correcting what happened in the Biden administration. No, no, the rising gas prices and all the issues he's dealing with leading into the midterms are directly tied back to the war with Iran that he began. So yes, this is the last thing he needs is more problems associated or directly tied back to him as voters. Early voting is already taking place in a lot of states, and so this is not the kind of headline he wants to deal with.
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Speaker 1: You know, we're not surprised, but at the same time, we are shocked at... just how bold she was, how bold these accusations are, which she absolutely still denies, the guy on the other end of this that she was trying to get this money from, in particular $ 100, 000 to pay off her credit card bill before she did her ambassadorship hearings. I'm not surprised, but babe, to see this level of what feels like, to me at least, corruption, It's still stunning that this woman who almost married the president's namesake was out there saying, yeah, I can get you whatever you need. Send me $ 100, 000 here. Send me $ 100, 000 now.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and here's how not to leave a paper trail. That was part of the most damning portion of what she was texting back and forth with this Trump donor. His name is Eric Dieter. He ran for governor and for office there in Kentucky.
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Speaker 3: He's a lawyer.
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Speaker 2: Obviously, he has deep pockets, and she was trying to get some And yes, peddle her influence, peddle her access to Trump administration. Yes, and he has already announced she's got a lot of issues. Losing her ambassadorship is obviously stunning and a major issue. But she is now, it seems like, going to be served with a lawsuit on top of it because he has made the announcement that he is absolutely, and he was laughing, saying he can't wait.
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Speaker 3: He's going to enjoy.
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Speaker 2: The hell out of suing her for defamation. because he has said she has flat out mischaracterized and lied about this back and forth in these text messages that were leaked.
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Speaker 3: Between the two of them in the days leading up to her confirmation hearings.
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Speaker 2: The other issue is this is, yes, exactly what people think of and who Trump's own sons and daughter had been accused of doing. Hunter Biden was accused of the same type of thing, peddling his father's power, peddling their father's power with foreign entities, with powerful people.
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Speaker 3: This is all.
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Speaker 2: Dangerous stuff that we're supposed to be avoiding and which should be illegal, and certainly this is just stunning, and as you point, how brazen this back and forth was. The fact that any of this was in any sort of written form that could be traced back, it's kind of remarkable.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Washington Post did it first, right? They had a bunch of text messages.
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Speaker 3: And the Wall Street Journal, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Which one was it?
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Speaker 3: I think it was the Wall Street Journal.
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Speaker 1: They did it first? Yes. They had all these text messages, and this dude, if you've turned on the TV in the past three or four days, he'll talk to anybody who puts a microphone in front of his face. And he's a character. Like he's an angry animated character and who was out there. Robes, she is putting out statements. She needs to be putting out fires that he's starting every time he gets in front of a camera. He is going off on this woman as a bad person. As it was, grifter is what he keeps calling her, Robes.
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Speaker 2: And he's doing it because his name already got dragged through it, and he is now in full defense mode.
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Speaker 3: But he's not just on the defense. He is on the offense, as you point out. He is taking her down.
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Speaker 1: And so, yes. Step one, the ambassadorship, I guess. We saw this writing on the wall. We knew this was coming. But, yes, to your point, defamation is a big deal. I don't know how hard it is to win a defamation case, but he is out there publicly stating, she said this about me, defamation. She said this. defamation. And yes, he is a retired lawyer.
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Speaker 2: Yes, he absolutely knows what he's doing, or at least he knows the law. And I'm curious just where his standing is, even with President Trump. I'm sure he's now that President Trump has asked her to resign. I wonder if he will continue to donate to Republicans, but he's now got a name and I think he's enjoying the spotlight. It actually seems like he's enjoying it a little bit as he makes the rounds. I thought that was interesting.
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Speaker 1: Because let's just take him at his word for a second, not to say that everything he says is correct. But Robes, you would feel like you've been duped for years. He gave this woman hundreds of thousands of dollars.
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Speaker 3: $ 300, 000, according to him.
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Speaker 1: She showed up at an event or two that he put on. She's making the argument. So we got two statements we're actually going to share. One is her long resignation statement. But then the other one is a long statement from her attorney's robes in which they are trying to explain and they deny everything. Yeah. She asked for that $ 100, 000 for her Amex card. She was owed that money and they tried to lay out an argument for it. Don't know if that's going to fly. I don't know. She knew she had to resign. But if you did nothing wrong, the president didn't want to hear that. He's been reading that stuff just like the rest of it. You know he's pissed. Absolutely.
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Speaker 2: I mean, just the details, the fact that he offered her a million dollars for results, according to Kimberly Guilfoyle, and he wanted to get on Tucker Carlson's podcast. He wanted to get his song lyrics to Kid Rock. She apparently promised to lobby Kash Patel and Pam Bondi. He had some tax and legal issues he wanted to be taken care of or at least maybe softened a bit or some.
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Speaker 3: Who knows?
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Speaker 1: He was paying for access. Absolutely. He was paying for power. He was paying for favors.
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Speaker 3: Which should be.
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Speaker 1: Not legal. Oh, yes, sure. Let's say that. That part, I actually get. That part, I mean, people buy, like, $ 50, 000 tickets because they want to sit at a front seat during a fundraiser and then they get access. I, to a certain degree, I can appreciate and understand that. When it comes to this other issue of him... She asked him to fabricate some letter to make it look like he owed her money for services. The text messages, if they are authentic, do not leave room for legality, really. What she is peddling, babes, is a little different. And he's arguing corruption started when she asked him to pay off the credit card. Do it in time for my ambassadorship. I need this done. Fake documents for me to make it. Whoa, that's other level stuff.
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Speaker 2: He's claiming that she asked him to lie, to fabricate certain amounts of money that he owed her, which he says he did.
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Speaker 3: He did?
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Speaker 2: So he's even admitting to being complicit in part of this and saying, but the way she is describing it, the way through her attorney's, is completely false. And yes, I have no doubt he is going to pursue every legal avenue against her.
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Speaker 1: He actually said this morning in an interview with CNN, that lawsuit's coming this week at latest next. Wow. Against Kimberly Guilford, the president, this morning. Where is he headed? Alaska, right?
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Speaker 3: He's heading to Alaska.
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Speaker 1: So on his way out today, he was asked about it by the press gaggle, and someone framed the question that You know, she was almost a member of your family. What do you think about that at all?
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Speaker 3: She was not a member of my family.
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Speaker 1: That's how he starts.
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Speaker 2: That was his big thing. He's like, she dated my son several, several years ago.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 2: She was engaged to your son for multiple years and the engagement ended in 2024. Right at the same time he met his now current wife.
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Speaker 3: But yeah.
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Speaker 1: The president was not happy with this woman.
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Speaker 2: No, and he distanced himself as much as he could.
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Speaker 1: Could have fired her, let her resign. I think that's maybe a show of some gratitude or I don't know if it's respect or just throw her a bone kind of a thing. But he could have fired her very unceremoniously, but very loudly. And he didn't.
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Speaker 2: Like I said, I have an operating theory that she was close to the family. She did know how they operated. She was engaged to Donald Trump Jr.
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Speaker 3: For years.
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Speaker 2: She probably has a lot of information, and he probably doesn't want to make an enemy of her.
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Speaker 1: You know, remember, she was there January 6th. When the whole family was kind of huddled together and watching on TV, I remember those images coming out. She was dead center. She was right there. She's always right there. Some of the video and images they have shown of her. forgive me, I don't mean to be rude here, but they show her screaming like a mad woman in support of President Trump. She was a very strong supporter. Ropes is loud and obnoxious of a supporter you're going to find. That is not an insult. I'm saying she didn't mind screaming, yelling in front of any podium, any microphone. Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.
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Speaker 3: She was very passionate.
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Speaker 2: And I just think with her access, the access that she had, the access that she was trying to peddle, I just think she might have information that they just, they don't want to make an enemy of her. I mean, imagine if you've got somebody who was in your tight, close inner circle at that level and have certainly have information that would be worth something to someone you don't want to upset those folks. And so, yeah, he had a very, he has a very delicate situation on his hands where this was a soon to be, and if not officially a close member of the family, she had She.
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Speaker 3: Was treated as a member of the family.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 3: Whether he wants to admit it or not.
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Speaker 1: She was as close as they, she was in that circle.
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Speaker 3: Yes, she was.
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Speaker 1: Period. So word comes today that she has been asked to resign. Short time after we got this pretty long resignation letter from her. She put it out on X, but to your point, and it's clear here, the thing she does not say is, I am resigning my post. No.
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 3: She is not.
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Speaker 2: She says serving as the United States ambassador to Greece has been the honor of a lifetime. I will be forever grateful to President Donald J. Trump and Secretary of State Marco Rubio.
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Speaker 1: My hugging buddy.
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Speaker 2: For entrusting me with the extraordinary privilege of representing the greatest country in the history of the world. So she's still showing love. And, you know, the reports out were that Rubio was.
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Speaker 1: Pissed because he was just there. and all of this stuff hitting. Like, you know what? If all this stuff hadn't hit, people were still talking about just how that hug looked. I'm not questioning that hug. They look like two people who knew each other very well, but people started talking-ish about how cozy of a hug that looked. So here he is embracing her, talking about how great of an ambassador she is while he's there in Greece trying to get a particular message out, and it gets totally clouded by this thing. Yeah, I bet he's pissed.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was pretty pissed.
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Speaker 2: And so she made a point to bring up his name throughout She touted all the things that she's.
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Speaker 3: Done while she's been the U.S. ambassador to Greece.
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Speaker 2: And then she said these accomplishments are a testament to President Trump's bold leadership, Secretary Rubio's commitment to American diplomacy, and the extraordinary men and women who serve our country every day. So she is still, yes, singing the praises of both Trump and Rubio. And then she goes into, I want to also address the recent allegations against me. These allegations are false, and I intend to vigorously defend my name, my reputation, and my integrity. I have dedicated my professional life to fighting for justice, standing up for what is right, and defending the values that make America exceptional. I will not allow false accusations to define my decades of public service.
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Speaker 1: That's pretty strong, babe. That's a pretty strong defense.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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Speaker 2: And then she goes on again to start saying how great President Trump and Secretary Rubio are.
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Speaker 3: And then this is the only acknowledgement. While my time as ambassador may be coming to an end, my commitment to President Trump and the America First movement and the country I love will never end.
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Speaker 2: So, yeah, she goes on to. God bless Trump. God bless our diplomats. God bless the United States.
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Speaker 3: Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But yes, that was the important part that she kind of sort of acknowledged that she's leaving. Didn't say why and said she didn't do anything wrong. But God, she loves Trump and Rubio.
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Speaker 1: Asked her to resign and she's leaving. I don't know. This is no face saving thing of any kind. The president wanted her to go and she left. No way. She didn't have to say anything. She's packing up. We'll see her back here in the States sooner than later, I would presume. What happens now? Is she going to fight this out? Is she going to go quietly away from public life? Because she was a MAGA darling, was she not?
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 2: And she has been in the spotlight for pretty much her entire adult life. given her, she was a Fox News anchor, obviously, but then, yes, Gavin Newsom was her husband for quite some time.
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Speaker 1: All I know her as is Kimberly Guilfoyle Newsom. That's what she went by, Kimberly Guilfoyle Newsom. They divorce, she starts at Fox, she loses to Newsom. Okay, fine, we understand. And now she ends up in Trump's orbit, in Trump's family, essentially. She goes from the Democratic potential nominee, going from his wife to... the Republican president's family. And these two guys obviously hate each other. Rose, how does she, like she is a, she's a high wire artist.
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Speaker 3: She could write a really good book.
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Speaker 1: Man, what could she call it? From San Francisco, D.C. What I learned in the Newsom and Trump families. I would read that shit. But stay here with us. Yeah, she says in that her resignation, you don't see my air quotes, but I'm air quoting resignation announcement. Yes, she did say she was leaving, but she also said she is innocent. But before that statement came out, a longer one came out from her attorneys. You got to hear how they explain that $ 100, 000 credit card bill.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back everyone to Amy and TJ. Yes, the former.
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Speaker 2: Ambassador to Greece, Kimberly Guilfoyle, is on a defense campaign now. She kind of put out a resignation statement on X, acknowledging that Her time as ambassador to Greece is ending, professed love for President Trump and Secretary of State Marco Rubio.
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Speaker 1: Undying devotion.
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Speaker 2: Undying devotion, but also is maintaining her innocence, says she has done nothing wrong. And before we got her comments on X, we heard from her attorneys because, yes, Eric Dieters, the Trump donor, who all of those text messages have been released back and forth where she is apparently asking him, begging him, please.
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Speaker 3: To pay her American Express bill.
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Speaker 1: Was it honey, please?
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Speaker 3: Honey, please. Before the confirmation hearings, please.
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Speaker 2: Please. which obviously implies she knew there was something wrong with receiving said payments.
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Speaker 3: Didn't want to paper it. Her attorneys... What.
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Speaker 1: Does that mean? They keep saying that. What are they trying to say? Just leave a paper trail? Yeah. Don't text?
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Speaker 2: Correct.
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Speaker 1: What was she trying to say?
00:19:14
Speaker 2: Don't talk about our illegal shit on texts and emails.
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Speaker 1: Duh.
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Speaker 2: Let's keep it on a phone call where we can just talk about illegal stuff where nobody can document it. I mean, literally, that is the most damning part of the whole thing that she's wanting all of this to be offline or not detectable.
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Speaker 1: Which is not what someone says when they're not doing anything wrong.
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Speaker 3: Correct.
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Speaker 2: If you don't, if you can't put it in an email or a text, you probably shouldn't be saying it or doing it at all. How about that for a, I don't know, just a benchmark about what's right and what's wrong.
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think. We need to respond to someone via email. We both say, you know, we should call. You know the call we need to make.
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Speaker 3: Maybe we should just call.
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Speaker 1: We know that. Oh, excuse me. That's not ruining anything wrong.
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Speaker 3: We just don't want information to get out.
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Speaker 1: Everybody knows, babe, if this is something that is confidential, there is secret. And we're not doing anything illegal. I don't want anybody to jump to that conclusion.
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Speaker 3: No, just details about our life.
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Speaker 1: But that simple stuff. Why are you texting this? That goes to the what? Panic or desperation in the moment.
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Speaker 3: That's true.
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Speaker 1: She sent a text saying, I need you to. Here is the Amex PDF for how you can fill this out to where it won't be traced in some way.
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Speaker 2: And how about, what a nightmare, you'll literally cost me my ambassadorship, stop writing. You writing that is the dumbest thing ever. Like, why would you write that?
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Speaker 1: If you're owed money for a speaking engagement, do you write that test? No. I mean, is it something wrong with a private citizen who becomes the U.S. ambassador? You hear about her previous dealings. She used to get paid as a speaker. Fine. Is that a problem?
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Speaker 2: Plenty of us have done that coming out of media. That's a lot of the ways people make money is by giving speeches through lived experiences. Yes, I can understand why she would be getting a decent amount of money to speak to crowds. But if that's how or why you were owed money. It's not some clandestine thing. It's not some illegal thing. It's not some thing that should not be spoken of.
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Speaker 1: So this is how they speak of it now, Robes. They can explain that money no problem. And there are attorneys. Put this message out. It's a long message and it's a long explanation. Robes, let's just go from the top here. They say, and I quote, Eric Dieter's owes Ambassador Guilfoyle approximately $ 150, 000 for speeches and consulting work she performed for him long before she was nominated. He has gone on national television to recast a contractual dispute as wrongdoing and to attack not only Ambassador Guilfoyle but President Trump and other high-profile members of the administration. His own words and contract that Dieter signed show that his statements are false. They add Trump's name. and other high profile members. Are they hoping? They say, ah, this guy's attacking you too, Mr. President. That didn't seem necessary, but it seems as if they were trying to maybe get some support.
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Speaker 2: And scare him that you don't want Trump against you. You don't want him upset with you. And they went on to say why she would be paid so much money as a speaker because of all of the Yeah, she's an accomplished attorney, a former prosecutor in San Francisco and L.A., a television personality, and one of the most prominent political advocates for President Trump in the country.
00:22:39
Speaker 3: That's all very true. But again, it's her own text messages that do her in.
00:22:45
Speaker 2: But they go on to say people paid for her time because of who she is and what she has accomplished and that Eric Dieters was one of them.
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Speaker 3: And they get into very specific... functions that she went to.
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Speaker 2: She went to headline his Kentucky Freedom Fest events in which he staged to build his own profile ahead of his campaigns for governor of Kentucky and Congress. Yes, she talked about he signed a written general service agreement with a third party booking agency entrusted with booking and collecting fees on her behalf.
00:23:21
Speaker 1: Rose, it's like they're trying to confuse us.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't understand.
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Speaker 2: Now we're talking about $ 200, 000. And then they went on to say that, yes, that the $ 150, 000 for speeches delivered and consulting performed remains unpaid to this day. And that's where he's laughing. He's like, that is absolute defamation. So they're making him look like he doesn't pay his bills.
00:23:49
Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: They're trying to turn the tables on him. Sue him.
00:23:54
Speaker 1: Sue them for your $ 150. Isn't that the easiest thing to do? Oh, they don't say this at the bottom. I'm making sure I didn't miss this. Ah, there it is. We're evaluating all available legal remedies to collect this debt and any other potential causes of action. Okay. I will wait for that.
00:24:09
Speaker 2: I guess we'll have competing lawsuits back and forth because, look, she's an attorney. He's an attorney. Everyone's an attorney. She was a prosecutor. Look, they all know the law. And that's why it's also just extra puzzling. Do you get to a point where you feel like you have friends in such high places that you can get away with stuff that the rest of us know we can't?
00:24:31
Speaker 1: Robes, they're getting away with it day in, day out.
00:24:35
Speaker 2: And so you get a little sloppy. You get a little lazy because you think, eh, no one's coming after me.
00:24:40
Speaker 1: Day in, day out. This is going on. Just one of them happened to let us see what was going on inside the house. And she's about to get kicked out the house. And then they're going to go right back to doing what they were doing in the house when she's out of there. Look, there was, I don't know, this young lady, this is a mess, babe. This is a mess for this president. This is a mess for the administration. But it just goes in line to where we throw our hands up and say, huh, that sounds about right. But at the same time, you're still pissed.
00:25:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not shocking, but it's still shocking. It's not something we want to know to be true. We believe it probably is. But to actually see the evidence that it is happening, has happened, and probably is still happening, I think that's what's alarming about it.
00:25:24
Speaker 1: She was willing to trade hundreds of thousands and even in one situation a million dollars to help him publicize and promote something he was trying to do. But Robes, we have somebody in that inner circle who said, yep, I will put you in touch with Kash Patel, Pam Bondi. the head of the IRS. Robes, that type of access, that'll piss you off. Robes, she's selling access to three people we can't get anywhere close to. She's selling that access. Don't get me wrong, she didn't deliver, but just the idea that this was in her head.
00:25:59
Speaker 3: She tried to.
00:26:00
Speaker 1: And she thought it was okay. You think this was the only time? You think she didn't collect some fees somewhere from somebody and deliver it on something? I don't know. She says all this is false information. He says something else. The truth is where? In there, baby. I don't know.
00:26:14
Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see where this ends up. Is this all going to stay in civil court? Is this all going to be lawsuits, competing lawsuits? Does this rise to the level of any sort of criminal investigation? Can you imagine the Department of Justice investigating Kimberly? I mean, there's a reason why Kimberly Guilfoyle is gushing over President Trump, the man who literally just fired her.
00:26:36
Speaker 3: She is basically... Continuing.
00:26:40
Speaker 2: To just say what a wonderful, amazing, impressive, incredible human being he is.
00:26:45
Speaker 3: It reminded me of the press conference we heard this morning.
00:26:48
Speaker 1: You know what it reminded me of? What? Ghislaine Maxwell's interview.
00:26:52
Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: She needs something. And even when not asked, she gave glowing endorsement of President Trump. Rose, the way people talk, and yes, we're going to talk about the new press secretary. First thing out of her mouth, Trump is awesome. She actually mixed up at some point. She was trying to talk about her husband, and she said Trump's name instead.
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Speaker 3: Yes, she said the president. I mean my husband.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: That's amazing.
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Speaker 2: Well, I believe everyone's on brand, which is exactly how he likes it.
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Speaker 3: And when people misbehave, they still kiss the ring.
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Speaker 1: Well, he misbehaved and got caught. Yes. Come on, Kimberly. Come on now. We know how things work around here. You messed up. You got sloppy. Follow us. We know how to do this.
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Speaker 3: My goodness.
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Speaker 2: All right. There's certainly more to come with this, but obviously a big headline that Kimberly Guilfoyle is no longer the U.S. ambassador to Greece. And with that, everyone, we always appreciate you listening to us. I'm Amy Robach alongside TJ Holmes.
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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Tuesday, October 13th, and it's not every day that we get a breaking news headline having to do with the U.S. ambassador to Greece. But yeah, this one rises to the level. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and T.J.
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Speaker 2: Robeson.
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Speaker 1: Kind of saw this writing on the wall. I think we actually wrote it like that in our morning run. Kimberly Guilfoyle's time and her days as ambassador were numbered.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I think everyone knew that based on the reporting that came out earlier. And then President Trump basically publicly saying he wasn't so happy with her. So the writing was clearly on the wall. And then we heard it was a bit of a shocking announcement. It was one of the only bits of actual news we got out of the press secretary's first day with her press.
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Speaker 3: Briefing there, Katie Zacharias. But she announced.
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Speaker 1: Zachariah.
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Speaker 3: Zachariah.
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Speaker 1: Zachariah.
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Speaker 3: Zachariah.
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Speaker 1: How long did it take us with Levitt? Carolyn Levitt? Carolyn Levitt. We didn't have any problems with that.
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Speaker 3: Katie Zachariah.
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Speaker 1: Katie Zachariah.
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Speaker 3: I'll have it.
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Speaker 2: Down in at least, hopefully by the next time I have to say it.
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Speaker 1: And hopefully she still has the job the way they're talking about her already. We'll get into that later.
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 2: But Katie Zachariah dropped a bomb and quickly moved on that the president asked for Kimberly Guilfoyle's resignation.
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Speaker 3: And shortly thereafter... Said resignation-ish landed on Twitter, on X?
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Speaker 1: What, the press briefing was supposed to start at 9.30 Eastern, started about 9.45 Eastern this morning. By 11.17 a.m. Eastern, Ambassador Guilfoyle was the former. ambassador guilford her statement was out within two.
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Speaker 2: Hours yeah i was amazed i googled her name shortly thereafter and it already had former u.s ambassador to greece under her name within yes an hour of hearing that president trump asked for her resignation.
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Speaker 1: They've had that headline ready to go for days now.
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Speaker 2: Yeah they were like just ready to hit send that's all it took yeah But we heard from Kimberly directly. And she never kind of, like, wasn't it interesting that in her very long post on X, it doesn't actually ever say, I am resigning my post.
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Speaker 1: That is by design. She didn't mention that she had been asked either to resign her post. So it was a little bizarre. But this has been, well, this has been a mess. that the White House, the administration doesn't need because it reads with the rest of the administration of people who think that these folks are out for themselves, who are peddling power and influence and making as much money as they can to have the U.S. ambassador to Greece who was one walk down an aisle short of being in President Trump's family. That woman has been trying to sell influence to the tune of hundreds of thousands and even a million bucks from a guy. Robes, this was ugly. And because it was so in line with what many people think about this administration, a couple of weeks from the midterms, Kimberly's got to go.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're exactly three weeks from the midterm elections and the president is already dealing with all of the negative economy headlines that are directly traced back to him. It's not as if he can just say, well, it's just happening on my watch and I'm correcting what happened in the Biden administration. No, no, the rising gas prices and all the issues he's dealing with leading into the midterms are directly tied back to the war with Iran that he began. So yes, this is the last thing he needs is more problems associated or directly tied back to him as voters. Early voting is already taking place in a lot of states, and so this is not the kind of headline he wants to deal with.
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Speaker 1: You know, we're not surprised, but at the same time, we are shocked at... just how bold she was, how bold these accusations are, which she absolutely still denies, the guy on the other end of this that she was trying to get this money from, in particular $ 100, 000 to pay off her credit card bill before she did her ambassadorship hearings. I'm not surprised, but babe, to see this level of what feels like, to me at least, corruption, It's still stunning that this woman who almost married the president's namesake was out there saying, yeah, I can get you whatever you need. Send me $ 100, 000 here. Send me $ 100, 000 now.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and here's how not to leave a paper trail. That was part of the most damning portion of what she was texting back and forth with this Trump donor. His name is Eric Dieter. He ran for governor and for office there in Kentucky.
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Speaker 3: He's a lawyer.
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Speaker 2: Obviously, he has deep pockets, and she was trying to get some And yes, peddle her influence, peddle her access to Trump administration. Yes, and he has already announced she's got a lot of issues. Losing her ambassadorship is obviously stunning and a major issue. But she is now, it seems like, going to be served with a lawsuit on top of it because he has made the announcement that he is absolutely, and he was laughing, saying he can't wait.
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Speaker 3: He's going to enjoy.
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Speaker 2: The hell out of suing her for defamation. because he has said she has flat out mischaracterized and lied about this back and forth in these text messages that were leaked.
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Speaker 3: Between the two of them in the days leading up to her confirmation hearings.
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Speaker 2: The other issue is this is, yes, exactly what people think of and who Trump's own sons and daughter had been accused of doing. Hunter Biden was accused of the same type of thing, peddling his father's power, peddling their father's power with foreign entities, with powerful people.
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Speaker 3: This is all.
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Speaker 2: Dangerous stuff that we're supposed to be avoiding and which should be illegal, and certainly this is just stunning, and as you point, how brazen this back and forth was. The fact that any of this was in any sort of written form that could be traced back, it's kind of remarkable.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Washington Post did it first, right? They had a bunch of text messages.
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Speaker 3: And the Wall Street Journal, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Which one was it?
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Speaker 3: I think it was the Wall Street Journal.
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Speaker 1: They did it first? Yes. They had all these text messages, and this dude, if you've turned on the TV in the past three or four days, he'll talk to anybody who puts a microphone in front of his face. And he's a character. Like he's an angry animated character and who was out there. Robes, she is putting out statements. She needs to be putting out fires that he's starting every time he gets in front of a camera. He is going off on this woman as a bad person. As it was, grifter is what he keeps calling her, Robes.
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Speaker 2: And he's doing it because his name already got dragged through it, and he is now in full defense mode.
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Speaker 3: But he's not just on the defense. He is on the offense, as you point out. He is taking her down.
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Speaker 1: And so, yes. Step one, the ambassadorship, I guess. We saw this writing on the wall. We knew this was coming. But, yes, to your point, defamation is a big deal. I don't know how hard it is to win a defamation case, but he is out there publicly stating, she said this about me, defamation. She said this. defamation. And yes, he is a retired lawyer.
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Speaker 2: Yes, he absolutely knows what he's doing, or at least he knows the law. And I'm curious just where his standing is, even with President Trump. I'm sure he's now that President Trump has asked her to resign. I wonder if he will continue to donate to Republicans, but he's now got a name and I think he's enjoying the spotlight. It actually seems like he's enjoying it a little bit as he makes the rounds. I thought that was interesting.
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Speaker 1: Because let's just take him at his word for a second, not to say that everything he says is correct. But Robes, you would feel like you've been duped for years. He gave this woman hundreds of thousands of dollars.
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Speaker 3: $ 300, 000, according to him.
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Speaker 1: She showed up at an event or two that he put on. She's making the argument. So we got two statements we're actually going to share. One is her long resignation statement. But then the other one is a long statement from her attorney's robes in which they are trying to explain and they deny everything. Yeah. She asked for that $ 100, 000 for her Amex card. She was owed that money and they tried to lay out an argument for it. Don't know if that's going to fly. I don't know. She knew she had to resign. But if you did nothing wrong, the president didn't want to hear that. He's been reading that stuff just like the rest of it. You know he's pissed. Absolutely.
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Speaker 2: I mean, just the details, the fact that he offered her a million dollars for results, according to Kimberly Guilfoyle, and he wanted to get on Tucker Carlson's podcast. He wanted to get his song lyrics to Kid Rock. She apparently promised to lobby Kash Patel and Pam Bondi. He had some tax and legal issues he wanted to be taken care of or at least maybe softened a bit or some.
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Speaker 3: Who knows?
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Speaker 1: He was paying for access. Absolutely. He was paying for power. He was paying for favors.
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Speaker 3: Which should be.
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Speaker 1: Not legal. Oh, yes, sure. Let's say that. That part, I actually get. That part, I mean, people buy, like, $ 50, 000 tickets because they want to sit at a front seat during a fundraiser and then they get access. I, to a certain degree, I can appreciate and understand that. When it comes to this other issue of him... She asked him to fabricate some letter to make it look like he owed her money for services. The text messages, if they are authentic, do not leave room for legality, really. What she is peddling, babes, is a little different. And he's arguing corruption started when she asked him to pay off the credit card. Do it in time for my ambassadorship. I need this done. Fake documents for me to make it. Whoa, that's other level stuff.
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Speaker 2: He's claiming that she asked him to lie, to fabricate certain amounts of money that he owed her, which he says he did.
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Speaker 3: He did?
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Speaker 2: So he's even admitting to being complicit in part of this and saying, but the way she is describing it, the way through her attorney's, is completely false. And yes, I have no doubt he is going to pursue every legal avenue against her.
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Speaker 1: He actually said this morning in an interview with CNN, that lawsuit's coming this week at latest next. Wow. Against Kimberly Guilford, the president, this morning. Where is he headed? Alaska, right?
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Speaker 3: He's heading to Alaska.
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Speaker 1: So on his way out today, he was asked about it by the press gaggle, and someone framed the question that You know, she was almost a member of your family. What do you think about that at all?
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Speaker 3: She was not a member of my family.
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Speaker 1: That's how he starts.
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Speaker 2: That was his big thing. He's like, she dated my son several, several years ago.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 2: She was engaged to your son for multiple years and the engagement ended in 2024. Right at the same time he met his now current wife.
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Speaker 3: But yeah.
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Speaker 1: The president was not happy with this woman.
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Speaker 2: No, and he distanced himself as much as he could.
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Speaker 1: Could have fired her, let her resign. I think that's maybe a show of some gratitude or I don't know if it's respect or just throw her a bone kind of a thing. But he could have fired her very unceremoniously, but very loudly. And he didn't.
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Speaker 2: Like I said, I have an operating theory that she was close to the family. She did know how they operated. She was engaged to Donald Trump Jr.
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Speaker 3: For years.
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Speaker 2: She probably has a lot of information, and he probably doesn't want to make an enemy of her.
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Speaker 1: You know, remember, she was there January 6th. When the whole family was kind of huddled together and watching on TV, I remember those images coming out. She was dead center. She was right there. She's always right there. Some of the video and images they have shown of her. forgive me, I don't mean to be rude here, but they show her screaming like a mad woman in support of President Trump. She was a very strong supporter. Ropes is loud and obnoxious of a supporter you're going to find. That is not an insult. I'm saying she didn't mind screaming, yelling in front of any podium, any microphone. Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump, Trump.
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Speaker 3: She was very passionate.
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Speaker 2: And I just think with her access, the access that she had, the access that she was trying to peddle, I just think she might have information that they just, they don't want to make an enemy of her. I mean, imagine if you've got somebody who was in your tight, close inner circle at that level and have certainly have information that would be worth something to someone you don't want to upset those folks. And so, yeah, he had a very, he has a very delicate situation on his hands where this was a soon to be, and if not officially a close member of the family, she had She.
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Speaker 3: Was treated as a member of the family.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 3: Whether he wants to admit it or not.
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Speaker 1: She was as close as they, she was in that circle.
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Speaker 3: Yes, she was.
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Speaker 1: Period. So word comes today that she has been asked to resign. Short time after we got this pretty long resignation letter from her. She put it out on X, but to your point, and it's clear here, the thing she does not say is, I am resigning my post. No.
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Speaker 2: No.
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Speaker 3: She is not.
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Speaker 2: She says serving as the United States ambassador to Greece has been the honor of a lifetime. I will be forever grateful to President Donald J. Trump and Secretary of State Marco Rubio.
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Speaker 1: My hugging buddy.
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Speaker 2: For entrusting me with the extraordinary privilege of representing the greatest country in the history of the world. So she's still showing love. And, you know, the reports out were that Rubio was.
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Speaker 1: Pissed because he was just there. and all of this stuff hitting. Like, you know what? If all this stuff hadn't hit, people were still talking about just how that hug looked. I'm not questioning that hug. They look like two people who knew each other very well, but people started talking-ish about how cozy of a hug that looked. So here he is embracing her, talking about how great of an ambassador she is while he's there in Greece trying to get a particular message out, and it gets totally clouded by this thing. Yeah, I bet he's pissed.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was pretty pissed.
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Speaker 2: And so she made a point to bring up his name throughout She touted all the things that she's.
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Speaker 3: Done while she's been the U.S. ambassador to Greece.
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Speaker 2: And then she said these accomplishments are a testament to President Trump's bold leadership, Secretary Rubio's commitment to American diplomacy, and the extraordinary men and women who serve our country every day. So she is still, yes, singing the praises of both Trump and Rubio. And then she goes into, I want to also address the recent allegations against me. These allegations are false, and I intend to vigorously defend my name, my reputation, and my integrity. I have dedicated my professional life to fighting for justice, standing up for what is right, and defending the values that make America exceptional. I will not allow false accusations to define my decades of public service.
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Speaker 1: That's pretty strong, babe. That's a pretty strong defense.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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Speaker 2: And then she goes on again to start saying how great President Trump and Secretary Rubio are.
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Speaker 3: And then this is the only acknowledgement. While my time as ambassador may be coming to an end, my commitment to President Trump and the America First movement and the country I love will never end.
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Speaker 2: So, yeah, she goes on to. God bless Trump. God bless our diplomats. God bless the United States.
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Speaker 3: Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But yes, that was the important part that she kind of sort of acknowledged that she's leaving. Didn't say why and said she didn't do anything wrong. But God, she loves Trump and Rubio.
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Speaker 1: Asked her to resign and she's leaving. I don't know. This is no face saving thing of any kind. The president wanted her to go and she left. No way. She didn't have to say anything. She's packing up. We'll see her back here in the States sooner than later, I would presume. What happens now? Is she going to fight this out? Is she going to go quietly away from public life? Because she was a MAGA darling, was she not?
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 2: And she has been in the spotlight for pretty much her entire adult life. given her, she was a Fox News anchor, obviously, but then, yes, Gavin Newsom was her husband for quite some time.
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Speaker 1: All I know her as is Kimberly Guilfoyle Newsom. That's what she went by, Kimberly Guilfoyle Newsom. They divorce, she starts at Fox, she loses to Newsom. Okay, fine, we understand. And now she ends up in Trump's orbit, in Trump's family, essentially. She goes from the Democratic potential nominee, going from his wife to... the Republican president's family. And these two guys obviously hate each other. Rose, how does she, like she is a, she's a high wire artist.
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Speaker 3: She could write a really good book.
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Speaker 1: Man, what could she call it? From San Francisco, D.C. What I learned in the Newsom and Trump families. I would read that shit. But stay here with us. Yeah, she says in that her resignation, you don't see my air quotes, but I'm air quoting resignation announcement. Yes, she did say she was leaving, but she also said she is innocent. But before that statement came out, a longer one came out from her attorneys. You got to hear how they explain that $ 100, 000 credit card bill.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back everyone to Amy and TJ. Yes, the former.
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Speaker 2: Ambassador to Greece, Kimberly Guilfoyle, is on a defense campaign now. She kind of put out a resignation statement on X, acknowledging that Her time as ambassador to Greece is ending, professed love for President Trump and Secretary of State Marco Rubio.
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Speaker 1: Undying devotion.
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Speaker 2: Undying devotion, but also is maintaining her innocence, says she has done nothing wrong. And before we got her comments on X, we heard from her attorneys because, yes, Eric Dieters, the Trump donor, who all of those text messages have been released back and forth where she is apparently asking him, begging him, please.
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Speaker 3: To pay her American Express bill.
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Speaker 1: Was it honey, please?
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Speaker 3: Honey, please. Before the confirmation hearings, please.
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Speaker 2: Please. which obviously implies she knew there was something wrong with receiving said payments.
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Speaker 3: Didn't want to paper it. Her attorneys... What.
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Speaker 1: Does that mean? They keep saying that. What are they trying to say? Just leave a paper trail? Yeah. Don't text?
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Speaker 2: Correct.
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Speaker 1: What was she trying to say?
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Speaker 2: Don't talk about our illegal shit on texts and emails.
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Speaker 1: Duh.
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Speaker 2: Let's keep it on a phone call where we can just talk about illegal stuff where nobody can document it. I mean, literally, that is the most damning part of the whole thing that she's wanting all of this to be offline or not detectable.
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Speaker 1: Which is not what someone says when they're not doing anything wrong.
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Speaker 3: Correct.
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Speaker 2: If you don't, if you can't put it in an email or a text, you probably shouldn't be saying it or doing it at all. How about that for a, I don't know, just a benchmark about what's right and what's wrong.
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to think. We need to respond to someone via email. We both say, you know, we should call. You know the call we need to make.
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Speaker 3: Maybe we should just call.
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Speaker 1: We know that. Oh, excuse me. That's not ruining anything wrong.
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Speaker 3: We just don't want information to get out.
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Speaker 1: Everybody knows, babe, if this is something that is confidential, there is secret. And we're not doing anything illegal. I don't want anybody to jump to that conclusion.
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Speaker 3: No, just details about our life.
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Speaker 1: But that simple stuff. Why are you texting this? That goes to the what? Panic or desperation in the moment.
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Speaker 3: That's true.
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Speaker 1: She sent a text saying, I need you to. Here is the Amex PDF for how you can fill this out to where it won't be traced in some way.
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Speaker 2: And how about, what a nightmare, you'll literally cost me my ambassadorship, stop writing. You writing that is the dumbest thing ever. Like, why would you write that?
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Speaker 1: If you're owed money for a speaking engagement, do you write that test? No. I mean, is it something wrong with a private citizen who becomes the U.S. ambassador? You hear about her previous dealings. She used to get paid as a speaker. Fine. Is that a problem?
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Speaker 2: Plenty of us have done that coming out of media. That's a lot of the ways people make money is by giving speeches through lived experiences. Yes, I can understand why she would be getting a decent amount of money to speak to crowds. But if that's how or why you were owed money. It's not some clandestine thing. It's not some illegal thing. It's not some thing that should not be spoken of.
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Speaker 1: So this is how they speak of it now, Robes. They can explain that money no problem. And there are attorneys. Put this message out. It's a long message and it's a long explanation. Robes, let's just go from the top here. They say, and I quote, Eric Dieter's owes Ambassador Guilfoyle approximately $ 150, 000 for speeches and consulting work she performed for him long before she was nominated. He has gone on national television to recast a contractual dispute as wrongdoing and to attack not only Ambassador Guilfoyle but President Trump and other high-profile members of the administration. His own words and contract that Dieter signed show that his statements are false. They add Trump's name. and other high profile members. Are they hoping? They say, ah, this guy's attacking you too, Mr. President. That didn't seem necessary, but it seems as if they were trying to maybe get some support.
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Speaker 2: And scare him that you don't want Trump against you. You don't want him upset with you. And they went on to say why she would be paid so much money as a speaker because of all of the Yeah, she's an accomplished attorney, a former prosecutor in San Francisco and L.A., a television personality, and one of the most prominent political advocates for President Trump in the country.
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Speaker 3: That's all very true. But again, it's her own text messages that do her in.
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Speaker 2: But they go on to say people paid for her time because of who she is and what she has accomplished and that Eric Dieters was one of them.
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Speaker 3: And they get into very specific... functions that she went to.
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Speaker 2: She went to headline his Kentucky Freedom Fest events in which he staged to build his own profile ahead of his campaigns for governor of Kentucky and Congress. Yes, she talked about he signed a written general service agreement with a third party booking agency entrusted with booking and collecting fees on her behalf.
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Speaker 1: Rose, it's like they're trying to confuse us.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't understand.
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Speaker 2: Now we're talking about $ 200, 000. And then they went on to say that, yes, that the $ 150, 000 for speeches delivered and consulting performed remains unpaid to this day. And that's where he's laughing. He's like, that is absolute defamation. So they're making him look like he doesn't pay his bills.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: They're trying to turn the tables on him. Sue him.
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Speaker 1: Sue them for your $ 150. Isn't that the easiest thing to do? Oh, they don't say this at the bottom. I'm making sure I didn't miss this. Ah, there it is. We're evaluating all available legal remedies to collect this debt and any other potential causes of action. Okay. I will wait for that.
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Speaker 2: I guess we'll have competing lawsuits back and forth because, look, she's an attorney. He's an attorney. Everyone's an attorney. She was a prosecutor. Look, they all know the law. And that's why it's also just extra puzzling. Do you get to a point where you feel like you have friends in such high places that you can get away with stuff that the rest of us know we can't?
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Speaker 1: Robes, they're getting away with it day in, day out.
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Speaker 2: And so you get a little sloppy. You get a little lazy because you think, eh, no one's coming after me.
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Speaker 1: Day in, day out. This is going on. Just one of them happened to let us see what was going on inside the house. And she's about to get kicked out the house. And then they're going to go right back to doing what they were doing in the house when she's out of there. Look, there was, I don't know, this young lady, this is a mess, babe. This is a mess for this president. This is a mess for the administration. But it just goes in line to where we throw our hands up and say, huh, that sounds about right. But at the same time, you're still pissed.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not shocking, but it's still shocking. It's not something we want to know to be true. We believe it probably is. But to actually see the evidence that it is happening, has happened, and probably is still happening, I think that's what's alarming about it.
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Speaker 1: She was willing to trade hundreds of thousands and even in one situation a million dollars to help him publicize and promote something he was trying to do. But Robes, we have somebody in that inner circle who said, yep, I will put you in touch with Kash Patel, Pam Bondi. the head of the IRS. Robes, that type of access, that'll piss you off. Robes, she's selling access to three people we can't get anywhere close to. She's selling that access. Don't get me wrong, she didn't deliver, but just the idea that this was in her head.
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Speaker 3: She tried to.
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Speaker 1: And she thought it was okay. You think this was the only time? You think she didn't collect some fees somewhere from somebody and deliver it on something? I don't know. She says all this is false information. He says something else. The truth is where? In there, baby. I don't know.
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Speaker 2: It'll be interesting to see where this ends up. Is this all going to stay in civil court? Is this all going to be lawsuits, competing lawsuits? Does this rise to the level of any sort of criminal investigation? Can you imagine the Department of Justice investigating Kimberly? I mean, there's a reason why Kimberly Guilfoyle is gushing over President Trump, the man who literally just fired her.
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Speaker 3: She is basically... Continuing.
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Speaker 2: To just say what a wonderful, amazing, impressive, incredible human being he is.
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Speaker 3: It reminded me of the press conference we heard this morning.
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Speaker 1: You know what it reminded me of? What? Ghislaine Maxwell's interview.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: She needs something. And even when not asked, she gave glowing endorsement of President Trump. Rose, the way people talk, and yes, we're going to talk about the new press secretary. First thing out of her mouth, Trump is awesome. She actually mixed up at some point. She was trying to talk about her husband, and she said Trump's name instead.
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Speaker 3: Yes, she said the president. I mean my husband.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: That's amazing.
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Speaker 2: Well, I believe everyone's on brand, which is exactly how he likes it.
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Speaker 3: And when people misbehave, they still kiss the ring.
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Speaker 1: Well, he misbehaved and got caught. Yes. Come on, Kimberly. Come on now. We know how things work around here. You messed up. You got sloppy. Follow us. We know how to do this.
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Speaker 3: My goodness.
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Speaker 2: All right. There's certainly more to come with this, but obviously a big headline that Kimberly Guilfoyle is no longer the U.S. ambassador to Greece. And with that, everyone, we always appreciate you listening to us. I'm Amy Robach alongside TJ Holmes.
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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon.