July 31, 2026
Killer Mom Trial: Jury “Field Trip” After 10 First Responders Testify On Horrors Of Finding Children
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RSS Feed The prosecution called 10 first responders to the stand in the triple murder trial of 35-year-old Lindsay Clancy, accused of strangling her three young children to death. One by one, they described the horrific scene they arrived to, complete with what they saw and heard from both Lindsay and the children’s father, Patrick. Today the jury will make a rare field trip to the home where it all happened two years ago, touring the crime scene from the basement to the master bedroom window.
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Speaker 1: Hey, that folks.
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Speaker 2: It is Friday, July thirty first, and the jury in the Lindsey Clancy triple murder trial going to be back in court today.
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Speaker 1: They won't be there long.
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Speaker 2: They are taking a bit of a field trip and with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ romes. We see this in trials every once in a while. They are going to see the basement where she strangled her kids today.
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Speaker 3: Oh, they have already been through so much this jury, what they've had to hear, what they've had to see, and now to actually physically be in the very room where those atrocities occurred. I can't even imagine what that must be like. And I actually I'm always curious about the value how that actually serves a purpose in terms of determining guilt or innocence.
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Speaker 2: They say it does, and defense attorneys and prosecutors have been on board with this and have advocated for this before in several high profile cases, and they have their different reasons for it. But robes, they sit in there for sometimes weeks or even months, hearing about stuff, hearing about a scene. Imagine how wide this area is, how far down the stairs were, how steep this is how like little stuff helps them paint a better picture besides just pictures, if you will. They I've heard or seen defense attorneys actually refer to this. You're getting a three D rendering now of everything that you've just seen in two dimensional pictures and videos in the courtroom.
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Speaker 3: I understand that when you're determining someone's guilt or innocence, if you're determining whether or not they could have done what prosecutors said they did in this space, right, I understand that, like you want to be able logistically and visually to kind of imagine whether or not that's possible or probable when you're determining guilt or innocence. This one's interesting to me just because because that isn't at issue. We know she did it, so to see where she did it, I'm just I'm always just fascinated why both sides would be on board with this.
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Speaker 2: One of the first things I thought about. I'm curious about and I've seen images now the outside of the homes, looking at them a lot this morning broke how many times have we heard that story related about her standing in front of a mirror, jumping out of a window. Here it's two story and all the I looked at the images, I'm like, it's I didn't even realize initially it was a two story house. Like there are things just as you start to piece together, when they're trying to tell you what kind of condition this woman was in, and she tried to prosecutor say superficial wounds, they are questioning whether or not it was she really was trying to kill herself. I kind of want to see how high up that window was. There's stuff like that.
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Speaker 4: You make a really good point.
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Speaker 3: That is something I hadn't considered because I was just I was going down to the basement, and I was just thinking, why do I need to be in the room where it happened if I know what happened, if no one's questioning that it happened here and who did it? But you're right when it comes to what her actual intentions were when it came to her own health and her own safety. Did she just try to make it look like a suicide attempt versus actually really wanting to die?
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Speaker 1: You know?
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Speaker 2: I The thing I think about that basement ropes, what were the steps? Like I think that she had to methodically just carry these kids down a long stairway. Is there just a few steps. I'm curious about all of these little things they talk about. So, yes, they're going to get to see the house at a house that is under different ownership now, and I is it right?
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Speaker 1: Somebody's living there.
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Speaker 3: That's what was absolutely said earlier in trial, because I believe it was the defense attorney who was trying to tell the jury, Hey, look, they weren't living some posh life. She didn't have some wonderful home. You know, this was a modest home. And yes, if you've seen recent pictures, there's been a lot of renovation is done by the current owners. And that's when you and I looked at each other and said, someone bought that house. Someone lives in that house. So yes, someone does, and now someone has to leave the home and allow for this legal process to take place through their private home, which already is probably something they had to I don't know. Maybe they were fine with it, but I would think you kind of have to come to terms with it or get in some way at peace.
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Speaker 4: With what happened.
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Speaker 3: And now to have a whole group of jurors and a judge and legal teams all trapsing through your home to gawk at what was a murder scene.
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Speaker 4: That's got to be something.
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Speaker 1: Who buys that house? Excuse me?
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Speaker 2: How do you live in the house with the knowledge of what took place? The basement is being used, Knowing that a five year old, three year old and eight month old were strangled to death by their mother in the home and in that room where you do what now, that's hard to get your mind to separate in some way. Robes, that's a difficult one.
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Speaker 4: But it's crazy.
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Speaker 3: As you're describing that, my chest tighten, my heart started beating fast.
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Speaker 4: I know that I could not live there, you know.
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Speaker 2: And we've been to a lot of momor scenes in our lives like crazy as that sounds. We've been to a lot of places where people have been on the exact spot where people will killed. Just being there briefly gives me chills, it does. I don't know how this happens. I don't know how these folks are doing it, but yeah, someone's in that house and they're going to get a visit today from twelve jurors, lawyers, judges. I believe Robes. Doesn't she get to go this is a.
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Speaker 1: Part of the work.
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Speaker 3: Yes, we've seen that happen certainly in other cases where the defendant also gets to go. Now, she's in a wheelchair, so I don't know how that impedes her ability to do certain things or go in certain places. And God, would she want to That's what I'm imagining she required to.
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Speaker 1: She might.
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Speaker 3: God, if she is forced to return with the jury, with her legal team, maybe she could.
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Speaker 4: I would think she would not want to go back.
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Speaker 3: She didn't want to look at the rubber bands, she didn't want to listen to the nine one one call. I can't imagine she would want to return to this scene of the worst night of her life.
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Speaker 2: That is happening today. After what we saw yesterday, which was a shortened day in court, roges was kind of remarkable how little time they spent going through this many witnesses, it was a lot.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they had ten first responders on the stand yesterday describing the scene that they walked up on on that night. And yes, they talked about what they saw, they talked about what they heard.
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Speaker 2: And yeah, this was I mean, one after another, and they were only up there ten to fifteen minutes answering a few questions. But the first responder, the paramedic who worked on Lindsey Clancy, the police officers who heard the screams, the police officers who were inside, the other paramedics who also were in side when he found his kids, the ambulance driver, all of these folks who just were on the They describe Robes what immediately became an absolute all hands on deck in the community kind of situation when they realized what they were dealing with. A couple of things that stood out, obviously Robes the nine one one call. So much was talked about the scream, the scream that Patrick Clancy let out when he heard his kids, and one of the officers said they were actually in the house when he was coming essentially after he discovered his kids with dead and a pro is walking towards them and said he just looked up in the air and says, she killed the fucking kids and just screamed that out. So a lot of that stuff Robes yesterday was I mean, that nine to one one call and all that was something in those pictures, but this was something to hear them and even describe some of them being a little shaken up by the scene and what they saw and what they heard.
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Speaker 1: That day.
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Speaker 3: I don't think anyone's prepared to see or to walk up on a scene like that. Any first responder we've even interviewed or talked to, they will all tell you the worst possible case scenario is to walk up on a scene where there are children dead. There is nothing worse when you are a first responder than to witness that, to see that, and to be a part of that. And I think they described it as it turned chaotic very quickly. They just described it as pure chaos because they were there as he was discovering for the first moment that his children were all dead at the hands of his wife.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's different from a lot of scenes where they get a call about a homicide, you get a call about a fire. They know they're going to the scene and anticipating something. They all found that out together, right.
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Speaker 3: They thought they were going to the scene of a woman who was who had thrown herself out of a window and who was fighting for her life, who had tried to die by suicide. They had no idea along with Patrick at that same moment, none of them knew that there were three murdered children in the basement at that time, so yes, just to hear to have the jury here directly from those people who walked up on the horror that was waiting for all of them in that home, and then right on the heels of that testimony and on the heels of that nine one one call to think, these jurors are now going to that very house that is beyond chilling.
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Speaker 2: There was one Robes yesterday to describe actually picking up and carrying the lifeless body. I think of the three year old carrying it to the bush and to.
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Speaker 1: The ambulance road. Is just you.
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Speaker 2: And I've been around a lot of first responders. We've been on a lot of first responders when they show up to horrific scenes. I've never seen one breakdown. I've always been impressed. While everybody's freaking out and everything is going on and the worst moments people are having in their lives, paramedics keep there cool. So I'm always impressed. But to hear them express this was, Yes, what's kind of fascinating the jury visits.
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Speaker 1: We were talking about Robes. Some of the reason they do say it helps the jury, but they say this is a big part Ropes.
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Speaker 2: They feel more invested. They feel like when you take them to the scene like I'm the investigator, I am the detective now, and I get to do my work. They say that really is a big deal for Drew, and a lot of them show up with their notepads and are walking around and taking notes.
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Speaker 3: Look, I mean, I guess that does make sense where you're you're empowering them by the way you're saying, hey, we're entrusting you with deciding this woman's fate, and so yes, you basically do become a detective of sorts. And I'm sure that is that does feel empowering would be the word. It may be enlightening too, but you do feel like you have a stake in it, that someone's life is in your hands and it's on you to make sure you make the right decision.
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Speaker 4: So I guess in that sense it does.
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Speaker 3: I do understand why they would want the jury to see where this all happened.
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Speaker 2: And the other part, they say robes it can sway a decision, but even more so than that, it can solidify one. If somebody's already leaning one way or another, that can take a look at the scene and oh, okay, that's what I thought of. Oh okay, that bolsters my case or where I was already thinking. But yeah, it's another piece of evidence, a living, breathing piece of the case that they get to see, and they are going to get to see it today. But you mentioned earlier, I believe we have seen wrote some high profile incidents, high profile cases. I think for a lot of people, one of them in particular will immediately come to mind. But stay here, we'll explain why that's not the only one we have seen in very recent history. Other juries also take a trip to the crime scene. All right, we continue here on Amy and TJ. Lindsay Clancy's jury taking a trip to the crime scene today. Romes, can't you still see the overhead helicopter video of the OJ Simpson jury standing around his bent Wood home on the outlet side?
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Speaker 1: Was that? That was one off?
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Speaker 2: I forget about it. I remember it now, but Robes, that was one of the biggest days in the trial.
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Speaker 3: It was huge and OJ was right there alongside them, I mean, and that was always strange and there was a lot made right. He was not handcuffed or shackled, I believe, and a lot of folks pointed to that, does.
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Speaker 4: He have an ankle monitor?
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Speaker 3: On why is he just allowed to freely walk around his own home visit his house. That was strange, and I remember a lot of folks pointing to that, But that was an iconic moment in a an iconic trial.
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Speaker 2: With that, the jury in that one had to have such protection around them. It looked they were in a big you know what. It reminded me of a Super Bowl team going from their hotel room to the stadium. It was a big bus in the middle carrying them, and they had police escorts all around. They had to block off the street once they got to the neighborhood in Brentwood.
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Speaker 1: It was the scene and.
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Speaker 3: It was a full tour because they went past where Ron Goldman worked the restaurant. They obviously toured oj Brentwood home, Nicole's condo where the actual murders took place, and where she and Ron were both killed right there in the home in the front yard.
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Speaker 4: And look, I've even we were.
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Speaker 3: I'll fully admit we were in that area not that long ago, and I had to go on a run and I wanted to kind of run by the house. There is a fascination with it well after the fact. But yes, we all remember those iconic shots from the jury visiting the crime scene.
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Speaker 2: Some of the conversation then and still about the case is that it helped, oh Jay, because you put you put the jurors in his lovely home roase.
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Speaker 1: They're looking, wow, this is cool, the celebrity house.
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Speaker 2: And it normalized him in some ways, the wow right they did it softened them to him.
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Speaker 1: And yes, he's a big celebrity. They're in his house.
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Speaker 3: They made him put a sheet or at least they put a sheet over some major, big statue of him.
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Speaker 4: His heisman, Yeah, in the garage.
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Speaker 3: I read that part that they had to cover that up because they didn't want that to prejudice the jury.
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Speaker 4: Just the fact that they.
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Speaker 3: Were in his damn home that was just ginormous and gorgeous like that wasn't going to prejudice them.
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Speaker 4: But let's cover up the Heisman trophy.
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Speaker 1: They won't remember he was a football player. Just put this towel over the Heisman trophy.
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Speaker 4: It's kind of crazy.
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Speaker 2: It'll be fine. But a couple of more recent ones Alex Murnau and the Parkland shooting.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I had forgotten about that that the jury and it does make sense that the jury went to the it was the family property, correct to this, it was near the horse stables where the murders were said to have happened, just because I can understand the logistics of that and wanting to understand how that all may have gone down, or how it went down according to prosecutors. But when I read again about the Parkland shooting, the fact that the jurors went during the sentencing portion of that, so he had already been found guilty, but when they walked back into that school, there was still bloodstains. They were actually crunching on glass, broken glass from the bullet hole that were still in the walls. That had to be horrific.
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Speaker 2: And you know, didn't they come back and he didn't get the death ponty did he no cruise yep, and didn't get the death penalty. So I don't know how that scene made an impact. But they this does happen. It's not that unheard of. What this does for this jury in this case or else, I don't know. But what they say six weeks, eight weeks for this trial, Yes, you cannot keep this up for six eight weeks. This was in just excruciating in terms of emotion this week.
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Speaker 3: This has been one of the most intense and yes, maybe excruciating, gutting put whatever adjective you want, weeks of testimony that I have ever seen in my entire career. And those jurors are in the middle of it all. And by the way, members of the media go along on the.
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Speaker 4: Tour as well.
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Speaker 3: Correct do they get to go I know they did for the O. J. Simpson one, and they also did for the Parkland one for sure, but they went in after, so I wonder if they'll allow them to go in after. This is a private home, so it's a little different, not owned by the defendant either, And I.
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Speaker 2: Don't think the public necessarily has a right right as a part of the trial to be along if you will, So I don't be the judge's call if we want to have a pool reporter. But what is there to report. I observe jurors inquisitive about. Yeah, you can't say anything about the juror anyway, So it's not a whole lot. So I don't know if they would be allowed, if we'll see pictures of the caravan like we did in the OJ trial. We don't know. But another significant day in this trial. This is only day four robes of the trial, and it seems like so much has happened, and now this big day happening as well.
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Speaker 1: We'll keep an eye on this one. Today.
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Speaker 2: I saw they're going to court though at nine o'clock. I'm not sure if any witnesses are going up today or they're just taking the field trip.
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Speaker 4: Not sure. I've just heard about the field trip.
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Speaker 3: So we'll monitor everything that's going on there in Massachusetts and bring it any updates if necessary. But in the meantime, we always appreciate you listening to us.
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Speaker 4: Everyone. I'm Amy Roebuck alongside T. J. Holmes. We'll talk to
Speaker 1: Hey, that folks.
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Speaker 2: It is Friday, July thirty first, and the jury in the Lindsey Clancy triple murder trial going to be back in court today.
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Speaker 1: They won't be there long.
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Speaker 2: They are taking a bit of a field trip and with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ romes. We see this in trials every once in a while. They are going to see the basement where she strangled her kids today.
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Speaker 3: Oh, they have already been through so much this jury, what they've had to hear, what they've had to see, and now to actually physically be in the very room where those atrocities occurred. I can't even imagine what that must be like. And I actually I'm always curious about the value how that actually serves a purpose in terms of determining guilt or innocence.
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Speaker 2: They say it does, and defense attorneys and prosecutors have been on board with this and have advocated for this before in several high profile cases, and they have their different reasons for it. But robes, they sit in there for sometimes weeks or even months, hearing about stuff, hearing about a scene. Imagine how wide this area is, how far down the stairs were, how steep this is how like little stuff helps them paint a better picture besides just pictures, if you will. They I've heard or seen defense attorneys actually refer to this. You're getting a three D rendering now of everything that you've just seen in two dimensional pictures and videos in the courtroom.
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Speaker 3: I understand that when you're determining someone's guilt or innocence, if you're determining whether or not they could have done what prosecutors said they did in this space, right, I understand that, like you want to be able logistically and visually to kind of imagine whether or not that's possible or probable when you're determining guilt or innocence. This one's interesting to me just because because that isn't at issue. We know she did it, so to see where she did it, I'm just I'm always just fascinated why both sides would be on board with this.
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Speaker 2: One of the first things I thought about. I'm curious about and I've seen images now the outside of the homes, looking at them a lot this morning broke how many times have we heard that story related about her standing in front of a mirror, jumping out of a window. Here it's two story and all the I looked at the images, I'm like, it's I didn't even realize initially it was a two story house. Like there are things just as you start to piece together, when they're trying to tell you what kind of condition this woman was in, and she tried to prosecutor say superficial wounds, they are questioning whether or not it was she really was trying to kill herself. I kind of want to see how high up that window was. There's stuff like that.
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Speaker 4: You make a really good point.
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Speaker 3: That is something I hadn't considered because I was just I was going down to the basement, and I was just thinking, why do I need to be in the room where it happened if I know what happened, if no one's questioning that it happened here and who did it? But you're right when it comes to what her actual intentions were when it came to her own health and her own safety. Did she just try to make it look like a suicide attempt versus actually really wanting to die?
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Speaker 1: You know?
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Speaker 2: I The thing I think about that basement ropes, what were the steps? Like I think that she had to methodically just carry these kids down a long stairway. Is there just a few steps. I'm curious about all of these little things they talk about. So, yes, they're going to get to see the house at a house that is under different ownership now, and I is it right?
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Speaker 1: Somebody's living there.
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Speaker 3: That's what was absolutely said earlier in trial, because I believe it was the defense attorney who was trying to tell the jury, Hey, look, they weren't living some posh life. She didn't have some wonderful home. You know, this was a modest home. And yes, if you've seen recent pictures, there's been a lot of renovation is done by the current owners. And that's when you and I looked at each other and said, someone bought that house. Someone lives in that house. So yes, someone does, and now someone has to leave the home and allow for this legal process to take place through their private home, which already is probably something they had to I don't know. Maybe they were fine with it, but I would think you kind of have to come to terms with it or get in some way at peace.
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Speaker 4: With what happened.
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Speaker 3: And now to have a whole group of jurors and a judge and legal teams all trapsing through your home to gawk at what was a murder scene.
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Speaker 4: That's got to be something.
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Speaker 1: Who buys that house? Excuse me?
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Speaker 2: How do you live in the house with the knowledge of what took place? The basement is being used, Knowing that a five year old, three year old and eight month old were strangled to death by their mother in the home and in that room where you do what now, that's hard to get your mind to separate in some way. Robes, that's a difficult one.
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Speaker 4: But it's crazy.
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Speaker 3: As you're describing that, my chest tighten, my heart started beating fast.
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Speaker 4: I know that I could not live there, you know.
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Speaker 2: And we've been to a lot of momor scenes in our lives like crazy as that sounds. We've been to a lot of places where people have been on the exact spot where people will killed. Just being there briefly gives me chills, it does. I don't know how this happens. I don't know how these folks are doing it, but yeah, someone's in that house and they're going to get a visit today from twelve jurors, lawyers, judges. I believe Robes. Doesn't she get to go this is a.
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Speaker 1: Part of the work.
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Speaker 3: Yes, we've seen that happen certainly in other cases where the defendant also gets to go. Now, she's in a wheelchair, so I don't know how that impedes her ability to do certain things or go in certain places. And God, would she want to That's what I'm imagining she required to.
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Speaker 1: She might.
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Speaker 3: God, if she is forced to return with the jury, with her legal team, maybe she could.
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Speaker 4: I would think she would not want to go back.
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Speaker 3: She didn't want to look at the rubber bands, she didn't want to listen to the nine one one call. I can't imagine she would want to return to this scene of the worst night of her life.
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Speaker 2: That is happening today. After what we saw yesterday, which was a shortened day in court, roges was kind of remarkable how little time they spent going through this many witnesses, it was a lot.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, they had ten first responders on the stand yesterday describing the scene that they walked up on on that night. And yes, they talked about what they saw, they talked about what they heard.
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Speaker 2: And yeah, this was I mean, one after another, and they were only up there ten to fifteen minutes answering a few questions. But the first responder, the paramedic who worked on Lindsey Clancy, the police officers who heard the screams, the police officers who were inside, the other paramedics who also were in side when he found his kids, the ambulance driver, all of these folks who just were on the They describe Robes what immediately became an absolute all hands on deck in the community kind of situation when they realized what they were dealing with. A couple of things that stood out, obviously Robes the nine one one call. So much was talked about the scream, the scream that Patrick Clancy let out when he heard his kids, and one of the officers said they were actually in the house when he was coming essentially after he discovered his kids with dead and a pro is walking towards them and said he just looked up in the air and says, she killed the fucking kids and just screamed that out. So a lot of that stuff Robes yesterday was I mean, that nine to one one call and all that was something in those pictures, but this was something to hear them and even describe some of them being a little shaken up by the scene and what they saw and what they heard.
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Speaker 1: That day.
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Speaker 3: I don't think anyone's prepared to see or to walk up on a scene like that. Any first responder we've even interviewed or talked to, they will all tell you the worst possible case scenario is to walk up on a scene where there are children dead. There is nothing worse when you are a first responder than to witness that, to see that, and to be a part of that. And I think they described it as it turned chaotic very quickly. They just described it as pure chaos because they were there as he was discovering for the first moment that his children were all dead at the hands of his wife.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's different from a lot of scenes where they get a call about a homicide, you get a call about a fire. They know they're going to the scene and anticipating something. They all found that out together, right.
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Speaker 3: They thought they were going to the scene of a woman who was who had thrown herself out of a window and who was fighting for her life, who had tried to die by suicide. They had no idea along with Patrick at that same moment, none of them knew that there were three murdered children in the basement at that time, so yes, just to hear to have the jury here directly from those people who walked up on the horror that was waiting for all of them in that home, and then right on the heels of that testimony and on the heels of that nine one one call to think, these jurors are now going to that very house that is beyond chilling.
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Speaker 2: There was one Robes yesterday to describe actually picking up and carrying the lifeless body. I think of the three year old carrying it to the bush and to.
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Speaker 1: The ambulance road. Is just you.
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Speaker 2: And I've been around a lot of first responders. We've been on a lot of first responders when they show up to horrific scenes. I've never seen one breakdown. I've always been impressed. While everybody's freaking out and everything is going on and the worst moments people are having in their lives, paramedics keep there cool. So I'm always impressed. But to hear them express this was, Yes, what's kind of fascinating the jury visits.
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Speaker 1: We were talking about Robes. Some of the reason they do say it helps the jury, but they say this is a big part Ropes.
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Speaker 2: They feel more invested. They feel like when you take them to the scene like I'm the investigator, I am the detective now, and I get to do my work. They say that really is a big deal for Drew, and a lot of them show up with their notepads and are walking around and taking notes.
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Speaker 3: Look, I mean, I guess that does make sense where you're you're empowering them by the way you're saying, hey, we're entrusting you with deciding this woman's fate, and so yes, you basically do become a detective of sorts. And I'm sure that is that does feel empowering would be the word. It may be enlightening too, but you do feel like you have a stake in it, that someone's life is in your hands and it's on you to make sure you make the right decision.
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Speaker 4: So I guess in that sense it does.
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Speaker 3: I do understand why they would want the jury to see where this all happened.
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Speaker 2: And the other part, they say robes it can sway a decision, but even more so than that, it can solidify one. If somebody's already leaning one way or another, that can take a look at the scene and oh, okay, that's what I thought of. Oh okay, that bolsters my case or where I was already thinking. But yeah, it's another piece of evidence, a living, breathing piece of the case that they get to see, and they are going to get to see it today. But you mentioned earlier, I believe we have seen wrote some high profile incidents, high profile cases. I think for a lot of people, one of them in particular will immediately come to mind. But stay here, we'll explain why that's not the only one we have seen in very recent history. Other juries also take a trip to the crime scene. All right, we continue here on Amy and TJ. Lindsay Clancy's jury taking a trip to the crime scene today. Romes, can't you still see the overhead helicopter video of the OJ Simpson jury standing around his bent Wood home on the outlet side?
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Speaker 1: Was that? That was one off?
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Speaker 2: I forget about it. I remember it now, but Robes, that was one of the biggest days in the trial.
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Speaker 3: It was huge and OJ was right there alongside them, I mean, and that was always strange and there was a lot made right. He was not handcuffed or shackled, I believe, and a lot of folks pointed to that, does.
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Speaker 4: He have an ankle monitor?
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Speaker 3: On why is he just allowed to freely walk around his own home visit his house. That was strange, and I remember a lot of folks pointing to that, But that was an iconic moment in a an iconic trial.
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Speaker 2: With that, the jury in that one had to have such protection around them. It looked they were in a big you know what. It reminded me of a Super Bowl team going from their hotel room to the stadium. It was a big bus in the middle carrying them, and they had police escorts all around. They had to block off the street once they got to the neighborhood in Brentwood.
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Speaker 1: It was the scene and.
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Speaker 3: It was a full tour because they went past where Ron Goldman worked the restaurant. They obviously toured oj Brentwood home, Nicole's condo where the actual murders took place, and where she and Ron were both killed right there in the home in the front yard.
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Speaker 4: And look, I've even we were.
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Speaker 3: I'll fully admit we were in that area not that long ago, and I had to go on a run and I wanted to kind of run by the house. There is a fascination with it well after the fact. But yes, we all remember those iconic shots from the jury visiting the crime scene.
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Speaker 2: Some of the conversation then and still about the case is that it helped, oh Jay, because you put you put the jurors in his lovely home roase.
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Speaker 1: They're looking, wow, this is cool, the celebrity house.
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Speaker 2: And it normalized him in some ways, the wow right they did it softened them to him.
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Speaker 1: And yes, he's a big celebrity. They're in his house.
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Speaker 3: They made him put a sheet or at least they put a sheet over some major, big statue of him.
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Speaker 4: His heisman, Yeah, in the garage.
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Speaker 3: I read that part that they had to cover that up because they didn't want that to prejudice the jury.
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Speaker 4: Just the fact that they.
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Speaker 3: Were in his damn home that was just ginormous and gorgeous like that wasn't going to prejudice them.
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Speaker 4: But let's cover up the Heisman trophy.
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Speaker 1: They won't remember he was a football player. Just put this towel over the Heisman trophy.
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Speaker 4: It's kind of crazy.
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Speaker 2: It'll be fine. But a couple of more recent ones Alex Murnau and the Parkland shooting.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I had forgotten about that that the jury and it does make sense that the jury went to the it was the family property, correct to this, it was near the horse stables where the murders were said to have happened, just because I can understand the logistics of that and wanting to understand how that all may have gone down, or how it went down according to prosecutors. But when I read again about the Parkland shooting, the fact that the jurors went during the sentencing portion of that, so he had already been found guilty, but when they walked back into that school, there was still bloodstains. They were actually crunching on glass, broken glass from the bullet hole that were still in the walls. That had to be horrific.
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Speaker 2: And you know, didn't they come back and he didn't get the death ponty did he no cruise yep, and didn't get the death penalty. So I don't know how that scene made an impact. But they this does happen. It's not that unheard of. What this does for this jury in this case or else, I don't know. But what they say six weeks, eight weeks for this trial, Yes, you cannot keep this up for six eight weeks. This was in just excruciating in terms of emotion this week.
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Speaker 3: This has been one of the most intense and yes, maybe excruciating, gutting put whatever adjective you want, weeks of testimony that I have ever seen in my entire career. And those jurors are in the middle of it all. And by the way, members of the media go along on the.
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Speaker 4: Tour as well.
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Speaker 3: Correct do they get to go I know they did for the O. J. Simpson one, and they also did for the Parkland one for sure, but they went in after, so I wonder if they'll allow them to go in after. This is a private home, so it's a little different, not owned by the defendant either, And I.
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Speaker 2: Don't think the public necessarily has a right right as a part of the trial to be along if you will, So I don't be the judge's call if we want to have a pool reporter. But what is there to report. I observe jurors inquisitive about. Yeah, you can't say anything about the juror anyway, So it's not a whole lot. So I don't know if they would be allowed, if we'll see pictures of the caravan like we did in the OJ trial. We don't know. But another significant day in this trial. This is only day four robes of the trial, and it seems like so much has happened, and now this big day happening as well.
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Speaker 1: We'll keep an eye on this one. Today.
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Speaker 2: I saw they're going to court though at nine o'clock. I'm not sure if any witnesses are going up today or they're just taking the field trip.
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Speaker 4: Not sure. I've just heard about the field trip.
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Speaker 3: So we'll monitor everything that's going on there in Massachusetts and bring it any updates if necessary. But in the meantime, we always appreciate you listening to us.
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Speaker 4: Everyone. I'm Amy Roebuck alongside T. J. Holmes. We'll talk to