May 10, 2026
Keeping It Real…or Keeping It Rude? People Are Dumping Societal Norms in 2026
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RSS Feed We have a hilarious list of obligatory behaviors people are now refusing to adhere to these days. From shaving your legs to ironing clothes to laughing at unfunny jokes, people are chiming in on what they will no longer do, just to please other people.
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Speaker 1: Hey, that folks. It is Sunday, May tenth, twenty twenty six, and it's twenty twenty six, which means we don't have to adhere to those whole societal norms. We can do what we want to do now. And Rhodes has a list I haven't seen it yet of the societal norms that you can ditch in twenty twenty six. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and t J. Robes. I was really endorsing this list before I heard it. Am I going to agree with somebody else? Tholf?
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Speaker 2: You'll agree with some of it.
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Speaker 3: I think you'll agree with a lot of it, because I do think you are somebody who is and I've said this before, not like the others.
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Speaker 2: You're not a conformist.
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Speaker 3: I don't think you're somebody who does something because he feels like other people will judge him if he doesn't. And I do think that when we're talking about societal norms, it's about doing things that you actually, if you truly ask yourself, don't want to do, but do it because everybody else does it, and everybody else says you should do it. M And you're not one of those people. I am absolutely one of those people. I'm trying to shake it. I think as we get older, we're more capable of having the confidence to do it. And I actually think that younger because I think this list is from a lot of younger kids who now I think literally, with the advent of social media the Internet, one of the maybe good things that could come out of it is that you don't feel so alone, and you do feel empowered to say what you think.
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Speaker 2: And do what you like and not put on airs and on what.
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Speaker 3: You got one side where everyone's using filters and pretending, and you get another side where people keeping it really raw and honest, and that part of it, I think leads to folks saying, efit, I'm not doing this anymore.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not doing it face to face because there are things you would say online. Are you really saying that the way you behave, the way you act, the way you talk to someone on Instagram and a post you would see them in the hallway and use that same length.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely not.
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Speaker 1: Okay, that is then what social norm in that regard do we need to do. We need to start treating each other in amore, raw, unfiltered. I can say what I want to say fit if you get offended by it, way, I hope not.
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Speaker 3: No. I think this is mostly about your personal choices, how you present yourself, what you do, what you don't do, based on what you think people or how they will react to your choice.
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Speaker 2: Okay, which, okay, So the first one is a buzz feed. It's so fun. I love they put together.
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Speaker 3: They actually had a list of thirty five societal norms that people are ditching. I paired it down to half that. But the first one is actually I just thought I.
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Speaker 2: Would go in softly.
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Speaker 3: My circadian rhythm is that of a night out, and I made myself sick trying to fight against it. The tyranny of mourning people must be stopped. So people feel guilty if they stay up till two o'clock in the morning and wake up at ten am eleven am, and they're so sick of mourning people making them feel bad about it, so they're like, enough, I'm going to sleep when my circadian rhythm tells me to.
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Speaker 1: Okay, if your circadian rhythm and your career choice, if you're if you can make your money, sleep whenever the hell you want to sleep, hun't okay.
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Speaker 3: I still think people because I get this. I used to be a late sleeper and a night owl. I've definitely shifted because of my job, and now I do get up much earlier.
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Speaker 2: But I remember being like feeling guilty.
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Speaker 1: That was in college. You can't do that as a professional. I don't care who you are. There is no professional, no profession that allows you to stay up till three every night and then get up at eleven the next day and have a full work day and a salary and a It just it doesn't work that way. There's some special leaders to Europe.
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Speaker 2: Maybe you could make it right.
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Speaker 1: That does not work, so but fine, I don't judge anybody for doing that.
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Speaker 2: Here's another one.
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Speaker 3: I no longer eat three meals a day now. I just eat when I'm actually hungry, and I don't call it a specific name.
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Speaker 2: I've lost a lot of weight because of it.
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Speaker 1: You do you boo boom?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Because like this, breakfast, lunch, dinner, lunch, I mean, breakfast is the most important meal to day. People make themselves eat because they think they should, and they should. I love the idea of eating when you're hungry, though, That does make sense.
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Speaker 2: Okay, we got two eye rolls.
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Speaker 1: Now eat when you want to eat. I mean, that's fine. I didn't know it was a societal norm. Like people are really giving you hell for not eating breakfast, for not eating three meals a day. It's for you talking to say those things off social media and go talk to somebody in a restaurant and they will not give you a hard time about having a meal or not having a meal. Yeah, this is a social media thing.
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Speaker 3: But we but you and I do not eat at normal times, and we don't eat necessarily the exact type of meal that aligns with the day or the counterpart for other people.
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Speaker 1: We like to.
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Speaker 3: You'll like this one right, being on my phone while waiting for something. That's what they're ditching, especially as a means to avoid eye contact. A good example is in a waiting room, everyone is on their phone always.
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Speaker 2: I will sit and stare at a wall or just look around.
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Speaker 3: It may make me look weird, but it is so refreshing to be less dependent.
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Speaker 1: Societal No, well, I guess it is. You know what. I like that. I do that in waiting rooms, and I do that robes. You see me do it in elevators. I hate when people get in an elevator. It's six of us in a four by four box, and nobody's gonna speak. I love when people get on.
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Speaker 3: HI and then always have a good day, just to make them say something. But the subway is another example. If you look, every single person is on their phone.
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Speaker 1: Hey fuck, I ain't talking nobody on subway.
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Speaker 2: But you don't get on your phone.
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Speaker 1: You look around, Yeah, because your head needs to be on a swivel. On a New York City subway.
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Speaker 2: No one's head is on a swivel, but yours.
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Speaker 1: You shouldn't have you down anywhay. But I like the idea of us. I see this at bars. I see this at like people that are alone feel like you have to be doing something. You look lame. They don't know how to just look around and just be.
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Speaker 3: They feel awkward if they're not on their phone. It's true. I don't know how you feel about this one. And I'm laughing because this happens.
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Speaker 2: We both.
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Speaker 3: It's it's our gee season. Someone said they are ditching saying bless you. When people sneeze, like, what are we doing? Does it really need to be acknowledged?
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Speaker 1: Fine, you don't have to. And if no one says bless you TJ after I sneeze. I'm not offended by it, but if somebody does, like, wow, that's nice, that's all a societal norm. Being nice a gesture to someone is now a societal norm we need to ditch. Okay, I'm glad you didn't lead with that one. Hilarious, right.
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Speaker 2: I had to feel like that one because it is nice. It's just kind. It's actually an opportunity to say something nice to.
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Speaker 3: Someone, to a perfect stranger with any superstition, I know, but that's.
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Speaker 1: An You don't even have to strike up a conversation to have a nice gesture to a stranger.
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Speaker 2: I've had someone.
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Speaker 3: Yell bless you across the street when I sneeze, and I laughed, and it made me happy.
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Speaker 2: It was very sweet. They don't know me.
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Speaker 3: They didn't really think I was going to get cursed if they didn't say it, but it was.
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Speaker 2: I loved it, So I want to keep saying blessed.
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Speaker 1: Isn't it an automatic you don't even think about you hear somebody sneeze, you go blessure wherever that person is.
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Speaker 3: One of the few nice things that still exist ditching among strangers.
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Speaker 1: What else on your list? Are we ditching?
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Speaker 2: It's not funny.
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Speaker 3: Okay, I am very much a man, and I sit when I pee because I stand all fucking day and that's my fucking time.
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Speaker 1: That's when he wrote, should have skipped that one, sweetheart, you should have skipped that one.
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Speaker 2: I wanted to get your reaction. It's a sociable norm for men to stand when they pee.
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Speaker 1: A societal norm. No convenient.
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Speaker 2: He's saying it's convenient to sit.
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Speaker 1: Then that's all. No, No, it's it's not. It's just not as a guy who has been peeing standing for forty seven of my forty eight years on earth, because first year I was struggling to walk, you know, it's stand roads that is uh, it's.
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Speaker 2: Uh, you're uncomfortable.
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Speaker 1: He's gonna have a difficult time going to baseball games, Okay, we being a trough in uh in a lot of baseball bro Fine, I've never in my life heard of that. And here's a thing. It's not a societal norm to ditch. That's your private business. Don't put that out there, not yourself out the squad.
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Speaker 2: That was worth it. I'm glad I included that one.
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Speaker 3: Okay, number six, my husband and I have separate bedrooms and we have for years. We get the best sleep. So this is and more and more people are talking about this, that this societal norm that you're supposed to share a bed with your husband or your wife, and that if you don't, it's weird. A lot of people are talking about having separate bedrooms, separate bathrooms, and that it works for them.
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Speaker 1: If it works for you, do your thing. I would not in any way endures that in a relationship I want to go to bed with and wake up with. Yes, that that's just a matter of personal connection. And I mean I'll fall asleep watching a game in a different room.
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Speaker 2: I hate you know, I hate that.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just we hear a lot even couples don't live together at all. We've seen that work that works for them, that works for you, But that's a that's the one time robes we if folks go to your working in two different places, you come home and the kids, you're dealing with this and dealing with that, and now we're also going to separate and the one time we can be next to each other for eight hours. Yeah, not wild about that.
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Speaker 2: I like to like to touch you, like even if we don't even have to talk. But yes, I feel the same way.
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Speaker 3: All right, you're gonna get a kick out of this one. Number seven, not sitting on the ground. If I'm tired, I'm sitting. I don't care if other people think it's a weird place to sit. Yeah, it's probably dirty, but so are a lot of things.
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Speaker 1: Where are you sitting on the ground?
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Speaker 2: You see it in the airport.
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Speaker 3: There's no more seats if you if you're outside whatever, all the benches are taken.
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Speaker 2: He's just like or she. I don't know who it is. I'm sitting on the ground.
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Speaker 3: I don't care. But people get judged. It's like a little kid thing to do. Well.
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Speaker 1: I didn't think much of that. I can't remember the last time I sat on the ground.
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Speaker 2: I can't imagine seeing you sit on the ground.
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Speaker 1: Why would I sit on the ground.
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Speaker 3: The only time I could think of it as at an airport. Maybe there's no other place.
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Speaker 1: To sit, but the lounge is open.
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Speaker 2: He said that with total s all right, Uh, this will be number eight.
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Speaker 3: If I'm off the clock, you will not be able to contact me for work related matters. I am not on call. I do not care about your problem. It can wait until nine am.
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Speaker 2: The next day?
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Speaker 1: Is that from cash Betel?
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Speaker 2: Oh that was funny. That was funny, but to the point.
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Speaker 1: And yeah, okay, if you have a job, you can do that. Fine. I have not had that my entire career. At no point can I just go check out and no matter what TJ is, you cannot get a hold of him. Nah. But if someone has that and has that rule, I have no one.
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Speaker 3: That's amazing to have that rule. I just haven't been able to do that. This is cool number nine. Not being silly. I held it in for so long and I just think life is too short not to say the joke or be a goofball.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I think that's just her. Oh why was I heard?
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Speaker 2: Yeah it could be hit. I don't know if it's a man or a woman.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, why I heard woman's voice in that?
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Speaker 2: Maybe because I was because I was saying.
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Speaker 1: I didn't hear a woman's voice when you talked about sitting down and paying a moment ago.
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Speaker 2: You know what, though, it does make sense.
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Speaker 3: I think women might have more of a license to be able to be silly and men don't. And you're right, I think maybe that's why you thought that, because men need to be serious, authoritative, to be taken with the credibility that they want and desire, And so for a guy to be silly, he's just not regarded in the same way.
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Speaker 1: Does that even mean to be silly? Goofy?
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Speaker 2: Goofball?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, who's a goofball that we know? Even on TV? Who's a goof Who's silly? Like a silly game?
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Speaker 2: Carry Like, That's what I'm thinking. He makes a lot of money off of it.
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Speaker 1: But the first thing I think of is how serious of an individual and smart he is. He's writing books, he's right doing commentary. Now, No silly? Am I silly?
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Speaker 2: No?
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Speaker 1: Goofy?
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Speaker 3: No?
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Speaker 1: When am I silly or goofy?
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Speaker 2: Rarely you're funny. It's different silly.
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Speaker 3: You don't do like physical comedy where you're like's goofy? Okay, the idea of you doing that is very funny.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 3: Not answering This is you not answering text right away unless it's an emergency. Just because I don't answer right away doesn't mean I'm dead. It just means I'm busy or not in the mood for human interaction at that moment.
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Speaker 1: For me, that's a bad I have a bad habit of not responding. But if somebody wants to take that approach and take that stand on texting, all right.
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Speaker 3: So when we come back, we've got some serious ones and we've got some other silly ones. But among them, I know at least one of them is gonna make you sit up and listen, babe. And this has to do with clothing and how it's worn. Welcome back everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ, where we are discussing what people are saying they are no longer going to do.
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Speaker 2: It's twenty twenty six.
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Speaker 3: They're ditching these societal norms because they've had enough of society telling.
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Speaker 2: Them what to do.
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Speaker 3: And so here is our next societal norm that's being ditched by a lot of folks wearing makeup. I never wore a full face. I always did it to make me look more awake. For the first week of this change, I had multiple people asked me if I was okay. I had multiple people tell me I looked sick or tired, and I almost caved, but I held out. And now I've saved a surprising amount of time, sleep, and money. I'm never going back what do.
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Speaker 1: You think about going without makeup?
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Speaker 2: I think it's to each their own. Pamela Anderson has done it. There are a couple others, yes, who has done and I get it.
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Speaker 3: It does take some work, and I understand the idea, especially people like Alicia Keys or Pamela Anderson who have always been and look Alicia Keys has a tremendous amount of singing talent, but she has been noticed a lot for her beauty, and I think that's kind of a way to say I'm more than just what I look like. And I appreciate that, but I actually love me. I like putting it on, and I don't take too much time. I think I take ten minutes. I try to really keep it to a minimum, but I enjoy it. I like the way I feel in it, and I try not to do it to excess. But I probably would never take a no makeup stance like I wear makeup almost every day, even if it's just you and me. I put a little something on. You make fun of me because I'm like, it's just tinted moisturizer.
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Speaker 1: And that's yes, because it's makeup. I am to each his his or her own. I guess I should, but no, I'm not a I can't imagine most women taking that stance, but I will you hear me say it. I prefer you without makeup. Yeah, and I'm not a makeup fan.
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Speaker 3: I don't think most men are, actually, But but other women might be like, oh, you look so tired?
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Speaker 2: Is everything okay? Like you would get.
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Speaker 1: That because it's drastic. If I saw you one day with all that on, and the next.
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Speaker 3: Day, excuse me, okay, right, imagine every like anchor you see on TV, every woman you see on TV with no makeup on.
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Speaker 2: It would be a very different. It would take a while to get used to.
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Speaker 1: I would watch that. I would watch that. What could you ever organize a no makeup day?
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Speaker 2: I think I've seen them do it for Kathy Lee and no industry wide, no, that would never.
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Speaker 1: One day, everybody on every morning show, all women got together and we're not gonna wear makeup today.
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Speaker 3: Someone would put something on, you know, and then you'd be like, I'm not doing it because I know she's gonna put on concealer.
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Speaker 2: I know she's putting on lashes.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, all right.
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Speaker 3: Number twelve. I don't fold or iron any of my clothing. I put my shirts on hangers and that's enough. F the ironing blank.
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Speaker 1: Okay, knock yourself out. You want to go out in public looking that way, fine.
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Speaker 3: You check before we get into an airbnb whether or not they have an iron.
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Speaker 2: I got you a travel iron for Christmas one year.
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Speaker 1: These things are serious, but for others. So the suggestion there is I don't care what I look like when I walk out. I don't care what my clothes look like if I pressed, if I'm together, Not yourself. That's a personal choice, a societal norm to to care about what you look like. Okay, ditchit.
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Speaker 3: The problem is, I used to tell the kids, is that I do believe it. You can ditch it all you want, but you are You are absolutely judged by the people you work for and with in terms of your ability to do it, to be an organized hard worker, based on how you present yourself. You can prove everybody wrong, but you're gonna have a bigger mountain to climb.
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Speaker 1: But why do Why? And that's fine to each his and our own. It's just why would we want to embrace presenting yourself in a way that is not your best self? And we suggest that yes, your appearance is a part of it. And when I walk into your room and I see how you keep it, it will say something about you. Why would you present yourself in such a slovenly way?
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Speaker 2: I would, I agree, and.
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Speaker 1: You, I guess this attitude is I could just be free, I could be what I want. I don't have to. No, you don't have to. But we call them societal norms. Why is it not just decent? Why is it not well? I mean, yes, things that are just seemingly or should be inherent. I care about what I look like when I present myself to you because I care about you. I care about this relationship. I care you're going to go to the White House for the Christmas party. Fuck it, let me just grab something off the I don't care what I look like in the picture next to the press. Is that the attitude?
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Speaker 2: It kind of? Yeah? Look, And I also would just say.
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Speaker 3: There's downy wrinkle release, which I totally love and use in a pinch and it's a lot quicker than an iron, not as effective. It works so well though, and it smells great.
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Speaker 1: Yes, fragrant water. If you want to buy this for twelve ninety nine, it's available for you.
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Speaker 2: I spray it on the sheets every day. I love it.
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Speaker 1: I have to get into a wet bed before I even get in it as well.
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Speaker 3: We try to do it in the morning so that it is nice and smells good afternoon. Having kids and I didn't even think about this, but I thought it was interesting. I finally gave myself permission to embrace and acknowledge the fact that I never really felt compelled to have them, and that I was feeling the pressure as a woman to have them because I was supposed to, not because I wanted to.
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Speaker 1: Okay, don't have kids.
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Speaker 3: It's yeah, no, oh yeah, women feel pressure. People are constantly are you gonna have kids? Or And then if you don't have kids, did you never want kids?
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Speaker 1: Once you're married or single, it doesn't matter your way.
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Speaker 3: People start to ask and they won't stop, and then they question why you didn't. And so it is a pressure that women feel to have children and to want to have children. It's like a bad thing if you don't want to have children. So I totally get that. Number fourteen. I stopped shaving my legs. A woman said this, yeah, and we have seen a lot of women stop shaving their arms too. We've seen that often to each his own. But that is a societal norm that people. I can see your reaction, so she wouldn't be dating you is no let me.
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Speaker 2: Advice that I was going to stop shaving my legs.
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Speaker 1: I had to have a hell of a personality to go with harry legs, So you better be special to his say to eat his or her own. And that's fine. Well, we could do with her body whatever she wants to do with it. And I don't know a norm. What does that make if that makes you wouldn't do you would feel so uncomfortable having.
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Speaker 3: Hairy right, My girls make fun of me because I honestly shave my legs. Maybe and you'll even go ooh, it's rare, but I'll have a little stubble for one day. I like having silky smooth legs. I don't like having stubble on my legs.
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Speaker 1: So that's your choice, and I prefer them that way. And if you're ever gonna think about the armpits, sure we have that conversation now too.
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Speaker 3: No, no, we're good. Actually, that was one of the good benefits of chemo. It never really came back very much.
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Speaker 2: So it's I actually don't have that much hair on my body because of it. Who knew?
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Speaker 1: Wow, we're not going to do that episode upsides too.
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Speaker 2: It is one of them, all right. Number fifteen.
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Speaker 3: I don't laugh at jokes that aren't funny, and I call people out if they're being rude to me. That's you in a nutshell. I'm not gonna laugh at someone show if it's not funny.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and call them out for being rude to you.
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Speaker 2: Well, you would do that too, if someone's rude to you.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I mean both of those things.
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Speaker 1: But I don't never see me. I do like this trick. You've seen me do it plenty. You just point out and highlight the ridiculousness of what somebody just did and have them fumble through it. Yeah, you don't have to get me. Oh I don't ever clap back. Oh no, not at all.
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Speaker 2: Jefferson Fisher, you know I love him.
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Speaker 3: He's he's by the way, booming online and his he had wrote a book and his a big social media presence. But he said, if someone says something rude to you, the best thing you can do is say, can you repeat that for me? And make them say it again? And they'll realize how awful it was. I thought that was a really good tactic, all right. This one's funny. Number sixteen, This sentiment that family is everything, not if they're toxic and judgmental.
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Speaker 2: I'm protecting my piece at all costs.
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Speaker 3: People tell you family is everything and that no matter what, you should always makea and.
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Speaker 2: For some people that's that's okay to say no, not mine.
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Speaker 3: And it's a societal norm that probably is hard to explain to people when they ask you why you aren't with your family, maybe in certain moments.
00:21:04
Speaker 1: But then there are plenty of others out there who can understand family might be the toxic thing that's causing your pain.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I get that, I do too, Okay. Number seventeen, This is the last one. I thought this was something that we're all working on. And maybe, Babe, I think we've had this conversation. Okay, Finally, I just don't care about everyone liking me anymore.
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Speaker 2: I'm a nice person.
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Speaker 3: I try my best to be kind, but I'm done feeling bad about people not liking me.
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Speaker 2: I no longer care. And it's so freeing.
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Speaker 1: Man, we could get that in the kids' heads at five years old, we would have a whole different generation. Yeah, it's we spend a lot and we see people. It impacts your decisions you make, It impacts behavior, It impacts who you date. Sometimes it impacts the job you take. It impacts everything because wow, what will somebody think about me if I do blank? It is freeing to get rid of that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're better at it than me. I'm working on it, but I do. And you say, I care what people think of me, but you don't care enough to change behavior there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's in us all. Oh yeah, so we all of course want to be liked in the doors. Oh yeah, that's in us all. But how much effort do you put into and then putting in that effort, how much are you actually taking away from your own enjoyment in life by trying to make somebody else happy who ain't even thinking about your ass?
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Speaker 2: Probably so true, it's so true. And I have gotten better.
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Speaker 3: But that's that That is one of the biggest That's something that's a societal norm that I think everyone could do good with a little less of.
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Speaker 2: Is there one that inspired you to make any changes?
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Speaker 1: Maybe the sitting down to p I'm gonna give you that a shot, and uh.
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Speaker 3: If you do that, I won't shave my legs and we'll call it even because I think I'm not.
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Speaker 2: That doesn't sound very attress.
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Speaker 1: Both of us will be disturbed by the other. What are you doing?
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Speaker 2: I walk in? Can you imagine I'd be like, what is happening?
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Speaker 1: I was like, no, man, I'm not doing number two. You can come on in.
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Speaker 3: It's fine, Oh my god, all right without everyone, Hope you had a little laugh, maybe you had a little inspiration. But this is where we are, apparently in twenty twenty six. And with that everyone, thank you for listening to us. I'm Amy Roboch alongside TJ.
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Speaker 2: Holmes. We will talk to you soon.
Speaker 1: Hey, that folks. It is Sunday, May tenth, twenty twenty six, and it's twenty twenty six, which means we don't have to adhere to those whole societal norms. We can do what we want to do now. And Rhodes has a list I haven't seen it yet of the societal norms that you can ditch in twenty twenty six. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and t J. Robes. I was really endorsing this list before I heard it. Am I going to agree with somebody else? Tholf?
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Speaker 2: You'll agree with some of it.
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Speaker 3: I think you'll agree with a lot of it, because I do think you are somebody who is and I've said this before, not like the others.
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Speaker 2: You're not a conformist.
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Speaker 3: I don't think you're somebody who does something because he feels like other people will judge him if he doesn't. And I do think that when we're talking about societal norms, it's about doing things that you actually, if you truly ask yourself, don't want to do, but do it because everybody else does it, and everybody else says you should do it. M And you're not one of those people. I am absolutely one of those people. I'm trying to shake it. I think as we get older, we're more capable of having the confidence to do it. And I actually think that younger because I think this list is from a lot of younger kids who now I think literally, with the advent of social media the Internet, one of the maybe good things that could come out of it is that you don't feel so alone, and you do feel empowered to say what you think.
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Speaker 2: And do what you like and not put on airs and on what.
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Speaker 3: You got one side where everyone's using filters and pretending, and you get another side where people keeping it really raw and honest, and that part of it, I think leads to folks saying, efit, I'm not doing this anymore.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm not doing it face to face because there are things you would say online. Are you really saying that the way you behave, the way you act, the way you talk to someone on Instagram and a post you would see them in the hallway and use that same length.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely not.
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Speaker 1: Okay, that is then what social norm in that regard do we need to do. We need to start treating each other in amore, raw, unfiltered. I can say what I want to say fit if you get offended by it, way, I hope not.
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Speaker 3: No. I think this is mostly about your personal choices, how you present yourself, what you do, what you don't do, based on what you think people or how they will react to your choice.
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Speaker 2: Okay, which, okay, So the first one is a buzz feed. It's so fun. I love they put together.
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Speaker 3: They actually had a list of thirty five societal norms that people are ditching. I paired it down to half that. But the first one is actually I just thought I.
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Speaker 2: Would go in softly.
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Speaker 3: My circadian rhythm is that of a night out, and I made myself sick trying to fight against it. The tyranny of mourning people must be stopped. So people feel guilty if they stay up till two o'clock in the morning and wake up at ten am eleven am, and they're so sick of mourning people making them feel bad about it, so they're like, enough, I'm going to sleep when my circadian rhythm tells me to.
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Speaker 1: Okay, if your circadian rhythm and your career choice, if you're if you can make your money, sleep whenever the hell you want to sleep, hun't okay.
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Speaker 3: I still think people because I get this. I used to be a late sleeper and a night owl. I've definitely shifted because of my job, and now I do get up much earlier.
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Speaker 2: But I remember being like feeling guilty.
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Speaker 1: That was in college. You can't do that as a professional. I don't care who you are. There is no professional, no profession that allows you to stay up till three every night and then get up at eleven the next day and have a full work day and a salary and a It just it doesn't work that way. There's some special leaders to Europe.
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Speaker 2: Maybe you could make it right.
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Speaker 1: That does not work, so but fine, I don't judge anybody for doing that.
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Speaker 2: Here's another one.
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Speaker 3: I no longer eat three meals a day now. I just eat when I'm actually hungry, and I don't call it a specific name.
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Speaker 2: I've lost a lot of weight because of it.
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Speaker 1: You do you boo boom?
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Speaker 2: Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Because like this, breakfast, lunch, dinner, lunch, I mean, breakfast is the most important meal to day. People make themselves eat because they think they should, and they should. I love the idea of eating when you're hungry, though, That does make sense.
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Speaker 2: Okay, we got two eye rolls.
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Speaker 1: Now eat when you want to eat. I mean, that's fine. I didn't know it was a societal norm. Like people are really giving you hell for not eating breakfast, for not eating three meals a day. It's for you talking to say those things off social media and go talk to somebody in a restaurant and they will not give you a hard time about having a meal or not having a meal. Yeah, this is a social media thing.
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Speaker 3: But we but you and I do not eat at normal times, and we don't eat necessarily the exact type of meal that aligns with the day or the counterpart for other people.
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Speaker 1: We like to.
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Speaker 3: You'll like this one right, being on my phone while waiting for something. That's what they're ditching, especially as a means to avoid eye contact. A good example is in a waiting room, everyone is on their phone always.
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Speaker 2: I will sit and stare at a wall or just look around.
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Speaker 3: It may make me look weird, but it is so refreshing to be less dependent.
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Speaker 1: Societal No, well, I guess it is. You know what. I like that. I do that in waiting rooms, and I do that robes. You see me do it in elevators. I hate when people get in an elevator. It's six of us in a four by four box, and nobody's gonna speak. I love when people get on.
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Speaker 3: HI and then always have a good day, just to make them say something. But the subway is another example. If you look, every single person is on their phone.
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Speaker 1: Hey fuck, I ain't talking nobody on subway.
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Speaker 2: But you don't get on your phone.
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Speaker 1: You look around, Yeah, because your head needs to be on a swivel. On a New York City subway.
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Speaker 2: No one's head is on a swivel, but yours.
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Speaker 1: You shouldn't have you down anywhay. But I like the idea of us. I see this at bars. I see this at like people that are alone feel like you have to be doing something. You look lame. They don't know how to just look around and just be.
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Speaker 3: They feel awkward if they're not on their phone. It's true. I don't know how you feel about this one. And I'm laughing because this happens.
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Speaker 2: We both.
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Speaker 3: It's it's our gee season. Someone said they are ditching saying bless you. When people sneeze, like, what are we doing? Does it really need to be acknowledged?
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Speaker 1: Fine, you don't have to. And if no one says bless you TJ after I sneeze. I'm not offended by it, but if somebody does, like, wow, that's nice, that's all a societal norm. Being nice a gesture to someone is now a societal norm we need to ditch. Okay, I'm glad you didn't lead with that one. Hilarious, right.
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Speaker 2: I had to feel like that one because it is nice. It's just kind. It's actually an opportunity to say something nice to.
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Speaker 3: Someone, to a perfect stranger with any superstition, I know, but that's.
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Speaker 1: An You don't even have to strike up a conversation to have a nice gesture to a stranger.
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Speaker 2: I've had someone.
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Speaker 3: Yell bless you across the street when I sneeze, and I laughed, and it made me happy.
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Speaker 2: It was very sweet. They don't know me.
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Speaker 3: They didn't really think I was going to get cursed if they didn't say it, but it was.
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Speaker 2: I loved it, So I want to keep saying blessed.
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Speaker 1: Isn't it an automatic you don't even think about you hear somebody sneeze, you go blessure wherever that person is.
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Speaker 3: One of the few nice things that still exist ditching among strangers.
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Speaker 1: What else on your list? Are we ditching?
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Speaker 2: It's not funny.
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Speaker 3: Okay, I am very much a man, and I sit when I pee because I stand all fucking day and that's my fucking time.
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Speaker 1: That's when he wrote, should have skipped that one, sweetheart, you should have skipped that one.
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Speaker 2: I wanted to get your reaction. It's a sociable norm for men to stand when they pee.
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Speaker 1: A societal norm. No convenient.
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Speaker 2: He's saying it's convenient to sit.
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Speaker 1: Then that's all. No, No, it's it's not. It's just not as a guy who has been peeing standing for forty seven of my forty eight years on earth, because first year I was struggling to walk, you know, it's stand roads that is uh, it's.
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Speaker 2: Uh, you're uncomfortable.
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Speaker 1: He's gonna have a difficult time going to baseball games, Okay, we being a trough in uh in a lot of baseball bro Fine, I've never in my life heard of that. And here's a thing. It's not a societal norm to ditch. That's your private business. Don't put that out there, not yourself out the squad.
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Speaker 2: That was worth it. I'm glad I included that one.
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Speaker 3: Okay, number six, my husband and I have separate bedrooms and we have for years. We get the best sleep. So this is and more and more people are talking about this, that this societal norm that you're supposed to share a bed with your husband or your wife, and that if you don't, it's weird. A lot of people are talking about having separate bedrooms, separate bathrooms, and that it works for them.
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Speaker 1: If it works for you, do your thing. I would not in any way endures that in a relationship I want to go to bed with and wake up with. Yes, that that's just a matter of personal connection. And I mean I'll fall asleep watching a game in a different room.
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Speaker 2: I hate you know, I hate that.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just we hear a lot even couples don't live together at all. We've seen that work that works for them, that works for you, But that's a that's the one time robes we if folks go to your working in two different places, you come home and the kids, you're dealing with this and dealing with that, and now we're also going to separate and the one time we can be next to each other for eight hours. Yeah, not wild about that.
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Speaker 2: I like to like to touch you, like even if we don't even have to talk. But yes, I feel the same way.
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Speaker 3: All right, you're gonna get a kick out of this one. Number seven, not sitting on the ground. If I'm tired, I'm sitting. I don't care if other people think it's a weird place to sit. Yeah, it's probably dirty, but so are a lot of things.
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Speaker 1: Where are you sitting on the ground?
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Speaker 2: You see it in the airport.
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Speaker 3: There's no more seats if you if you're outside whatever, all the benches are taken.
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Speaker 2: He's just like or she. I don't know who it is. I'm sitting on the ground.
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Speaker 3: I don't care. But people get judged. It's like a little kid thing to do. Well.
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Speaker 1: I didn't think much of that. I can't remember the last time I sat on the ground.
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Speaker 2: I can't imagine seeing you sit on the ground.
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Speaker 1: Why would I sit on the ground.
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Speaker 3: The only time I could think of it as at an airport. Maybe there's no other place.
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Speaker 1: To sit, but the lounge is open.
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Speaker 2: He said that with total s all right, Uh, this will be number eight.
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Speaker 3: If I'm off the clock, you will not be able to contact me for work related matters. I am not on call. I do not care about your problem. It can wait until nine am.
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Speaker 2: The next day?
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Speaker 1: Is that from cash Betel?
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Speaker 2: Oh that was funny. That was funny, but to the point.
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Speaker 1: And yeah, okay, if you have a job, you can do that. Fine. I have not had that my entire career. At no point can I just go check out and no matter what TJ is, you cannot get a hold of him. Nah. But if someone has that and has that rule, I have no one.
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Speaker 3: That's amazing to have that rule. I just haven't been able to do that. This is cool number nine. Not being silly. I held it in for so long and I just think life is too short not to say the joke or be a goofball.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I think that's just her. Oh why was I heard?
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Speaker 2: Yeah it could be hit. I don't know if it's a man or a woman.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, why I heard woman's voice in that?
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Speaker 2: Maybe because I was because I was saying.
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Speaker 1: I didn't hear a woman's voice when you talked about sitting down and paying a moment ago.
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Speaker 2: You know what, though, it does make sense.
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Speaker 3: I think women might have more of a license to be able to be silly and men don't. And you're right, I think maybe that's why you thought that, because men need to be serious, authoritative, to be taken with the credibility that they want and desire, And so for a guy to be silly, he's just not regarded in the same way.
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Speaker 1: Does that even mean to be silly? Goofy?
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Speaker 2: Goofball?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, who's a goofball that we know? Even on TV? Who's a goof Who's silly? Like a silly game?
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Speaker 2: Carry Like, That's what I'm thinking. He makes a lot of money off of it.
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Speaker 1: But the first thing I think of is how serious of an individual and smart he is. He's writing books, he's right doing commentary. Now, No silly? Am I silly?
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Speaker 2: No?
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Speaker 1: Goofy?
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Speaker 3: No?
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Speaker 1: When am I silly or goofy?
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Speaker 2: Rarely you're funny. It's different silly.
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Speaker 3: You don't do like physical comedy where you're like's goofy? Okay, the idea of you doing that is very funny.
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Speaker 2: Yes.
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Speaker 3: Not answering This is you not answering text right away unless it's an emergency. Just because I don't answer right away doesn't mean I'm dead. It just means I'm busy or not in the mood for human interaction at that moment.
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Speaker 1: For me, that's a bad I have a bad habit of not responding. But if somebody wants to take that approach and take that stand on texting, all right.
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Speaker 3: So when we come back, we've got some serious ones and we've got some other silly ones. But among them, I know at least one of them is gonna make you sit up and listen, babe. And this has to do with clothing and how it's worn. Welcome back everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ, where we are discussing what people are saying they are no longer going to do.
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Speaker 2: It's twenty twenty six.
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Speaker 3: They're ditching these societal norms because they've had enough of society telling.
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Speaker 2: Them what to do.
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Speaker 3: And so here is our next societal norm that's being ditched by a lot of folks wearing makeup. I never wore a full face. I always did it to make me look more awake. For the first week of this change, I had multiple people asked me if I was okay. I had multiple people tell me I looked sick or tired, and I almost caved, but I held out. And now I've saved a surprising amount of time, sleep, and money. I'm never going back what do.
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Speaker 1: You think about going without makeup?
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Speaker 2: I think it's to each their own. Pamela Anderson has done it. There are a couple others, yes, who has done and I get it.
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Speaker 3: It does take some work, and I understand the idea, especially people like Alicia Keys or Pamela Anderson who have always been and look Alicia Keys has a tremendous amount of singing talent, but she has been noticed a lot for her beauty, and I think that's kind of a way to say I'm more than just what I look like. And I appreciate that, but I actually love me. I like putting it on, and I don't take too much time. I think I take ten minutes. I try to really keep it to a minimum, but I enjoy it. I like the way I feel in it, and I try not to do it to excess. But I probably would never take a no makeup stance like I wear makeup almost every day, even if it's just you and me. I put a little something on. You make fun of me because I'm like, it's just tinted moisturizer.
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Speaker 1: And that's yes, because it's makeup. I am to each his his or her own. I guess I should, but no, I'm not a I can't imagine most women taking that stance, but I will you hear me say it. I prefer you without makeup. Yeah, and I'm not a makeup fan.
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Speaker 3: I don't think most men are, actually, But but other women might be like, oh, you look so tired?
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Speaker 2: Is everything okay? Like you would get.
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Speaker 1: That because it's drastic. If I saw you one day with all that on, and the next.
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Speaker 3: Day, excuse me, okay, right, imagine every like anchor you see on TV, every woman you see on TV with no makeup on.
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Speaker 2: It would be a very different. It would take a while to get used to.
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Speaker 1: I would watch that. I would watch that. What could you ever organize a no makeup day?
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Speaker 2: I think I've seen them do it for Kathy Lee and no industry wide, no, that would never.
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Speaker 1: One day, everybody on every morning show, all women got together and we're not gonna wear makeup today.
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Speaker 3: Someone would put something on, you know, and then you'd be like, I'm not doing it because I know she's gonna put on concealer.
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Speaker 2: I know she's putting on lashes.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, all right.
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Speaker 3: Number twelve. I don't fold or iron any of my clothing. I put my shirts on hangers and that's enough. F the ironing blank.
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Speaker 1: Okay, knock yourself out. You want to go out in public looking that way, fine.
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Speaker 3: You check before we get into an airbnb whether or not they have an iron.
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Speaker 2: I got you a travel iron for Christmas one year.
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Speaker 1: These things are serious, but for others. So the suggestion there is I don't care what I look like when I walk out. I don't care what my clothes look like if I pressed, if I'm together, Not yourself. That's a personal choice, a societal norm to to care about what you look like. Okay, ditchit.
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Speaker 3: The problem is, I used to tell the kids, is that I do believe it. You can ditch it all you want, but you are You are absolutely judged by the people you work for and with in terms of your ability to do it, to be an organized hard worker, based on how you present yourself. You can prove everybody wrong, but you're gonna have a bigger mountain to climb.
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Speaker 1: But why do Why? And that's fine to each his and our own. It's just why would we want to embrace presenting yourself in a way that is not your best self? And we suggest that yes, your appearance is a part of it. And when I walk into your room and I see how you keep it, it will say something about you. Why would you present yourself in such a slovenly way?
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Speaker 2: I would, I agree, and.
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Speaker 1: You, I guess this attitude is I could just be free, I could be what I want. I don't have to. No, you don't have to. But we call them societal norms. Why is it not just decent? Why is it not well? I mean, yes, things that are just seemingly or should be inherent. I care about what I look like when I present myself to you because I care about you. I care about this relationship. I care you're going to go to the White House for the Christmas party. Fuck it, let me just grab something off the I don't care what I look like in the picture next to the press. Is that the attitude?
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Speaker 2: It kind of? Yeah? Look, And I also would just say.
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Speaker 3: There's downy wrinkle release, which I totally love and use in a pinch and it's a lot quicker than an iron, not as effective. It works so well though, and it smells great.
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Speaker 1: Yes, fragrant water. If you want to buy this for twelve ninety nine, it's available for you.
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Speaker 2: I spray it on the sheets every day. I love it.
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Speaker 1: I have to get into a wet bed before I even get in it as well.
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Speaker 3: We try to do it in the morning so that it is nice and smells good afternoon. Having kids and I didn't even think about this, but I thought it was interesting. I finally gave myself permission to embrace and acknowledge the fact that I never really felt compelled to have them, and that I was feeling the pressure as a woman to have them because I was supposed to, not because I wanted to.
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Speaker 1: Okay, don't have kids.
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Speaker 3: It's yeah, no, oh yeah, women feel pressure. People are constantly are you gonna have kids? Or And then if you don't have kids, did you never want kids?
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Speaker 1: Once you're married or single, it doesn't matter your way.
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Speaker 3: People start to ask and they won't stop, and then they question why you didn't. And so it is a pressure that women feel to have children and to want to have children. It's like a bad thing if you don't want to have children. So I totally get that. Number fourteen. I stopped shaving my legs. A woman said this, yeah, and we have seen a lot of women stop shaving their arms too. We've seen that often to each his own. But that is a societal norm that people. I can see your reaction, so she wouldn't be dating you is no let me.
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Speaker 2: Advice that I was going to stop shaving my legs.
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Speaker 1: I had to have a hell of a personality to go with harry legs, So you better be special to his say to eat his or her own. And that's fine. Well, we could do with her body whatever she wants to do with it. And I don't know a norm. What does that make if that makes you wouldn't do you would feel so uncomfortable having.
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Speaker 3: Hairy right, My girls make fun of me because I honestly shave my legs. Maybe and you'll even go ooh, it's rare, but I'll have a little stubble for one day. I like having silky smooth legs. I don't like having stubble on my legs.
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Speaker 1: So that's your choice, and I prefer them that way. And if you're ever gonna think about the armpits, sure we have that conversation now too.
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Speaker 3: No, no, we're good. Actually, that was one of the good benefits of chemo. It never really came back very much.
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Speaker 2: So it's I actually don't have that much hair on my body because of it. Who knew?
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Speaker 1: Wow, we're not going to do that episode upsides too.
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Speaker 2: It is one of them, all right. Number fifteen.
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Speaker 3: I don't laugh at jokes that aren't funny, and I call people out if they're being rude to me. That's you in a nutshell. I'm not gonna laugh at someone show if it's not funny.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and call them out for being rude to you.
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Speaker 2: Well, you would do that too, if someone's rude to you.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I mean both of those things.
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Speaker 1: But I don't never see me. I do like this trick. You've seen me do it plenty. You just point out and highlight the ridiculousness of what somebody just did and have them fumble through it. Yeah, you don't have to get me. Oh I don't ever clap back. Oh no, not at all.
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Speaker 2: Jefferson Fisher, you know I love him.
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Speaker 3: He's he's by the way, booming online and his he had wrote a book and his a big social media presence. But he said, if someone says something rude to you, the best thing you can do is say, can you repeat that for me? And make them say it again? And they'll realize how awful it was. I thought that was a really good tactic, all right. This one's funny. Number sixteen, This sentiment that family is everything, not if they're toxic and judgmental.
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Speaker 2: I'm protecting my piece at all costs.
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Speaker 3: People tell you family is everything and that no matter what, you should always makea and.
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Speaker 2: For some people that's that's okay to say no, not mine.
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Speaker 3: And it's a societal norm that probably is hard to explain to people when they ask you why you aren't with your family, maybe in certain moments.
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Speaker 1: But then there are plenty of others out there who can understand family might be the toxic thing that's causing your pain.
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Speaker 3: So yeah, I get that, I do too, Okay. Number seventeen, This is the last one. I thought this was something that we're all working on. And maybe, Babe, I think we've had this conversation. Okay, Finally, I just don't care about everyone liking me anymore.
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Speaker 2: I'm a nice person.
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Speaker 3: I try my best to be kind, but I'm done feeling bad about people not liking me.
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Speaker 2: I no longer care. And it's so freeing.
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Speaker 1: Man, we could get that in the kids' heads at five years old, we would have a whole different generation. Yeah, it's we spend a lot and we see people. It impacts your decisions you make, It impacts behavior, It impacts who you date. Sometimes it impacts the job you take. It impacts everything because wow, what will somebody think about me if I do blank? It is freeing to get rid of that.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're better at it than me. I'm working on it, but I do. And you say, I care what people think of me, but you don't care enough to change behavior there.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's in us all. Oh yeah, so we all of course want to be liked in the doors. Oh yeah, that's in us all. But how much effort do you put into and then putting in that effort, how much are you actually taking away from your own enjoyment in life by trying to make somebody else happy who ain't even thinking about your ass?
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Speaker 2: Probably so true, it's so true. And I have gotten better.
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Speaker 3: But that's that That is one of the biggest That's something that's a societal norm that I think everyone could do good with a little less of.
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Speaker 2: Is there one that inspired you to make any changes?
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Speaker 1: Maybe the sitting down to p I'm gonna give you that a shot, and uh.
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Speaker 3: If you do that, I won't shave my legs and we'll call it even because I think I'm not.
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Speaker 2: That doesn't sound very attress.
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Speaker 1: Both of us will be disturbed by the other. What are you doing?
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Speaker 2: I walk in? Can you imagine I'd be like, what is happening?
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Speaker 1: I was like, no, man, I'm not doing number two. You can come on in.
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Speaker 3: It's fine, Oh my god, all right without everyone, Hope you had a little laugh, maybe you had a little inspiration. But this is where we are, apparently in twenty twenty six. And with that everyone, thank you for listening to us. I'm Amy Roboch alongside TJ.
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Speaker 2: Holmes. We will talk to you soon.