Nov. 26, 2025
Just In Time For Your Thanksgiving Casserole: What’s Really In Your Campbell’s Soup Can?
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RSS Feed One of the more disturbing stories of the week came out of a secret recording purportedly of a Campbell’s Soup executive. Former employee Robert Garza says he recorded his boss, Campbell’s Vice President and Chief Information Security Officer going on a tirade against the company, its products and some of its Indian Employees. Among the allegations, the man on the recording is heard saying that Campbell’s soup has bioengineered meat, saying he doesn’t wanna eat a piece of chicken that came from a 3D printer. Campbell’s Soup denies those claims and has put the exec on administrative leave while it investigates. Meantime the state of Florida is also investigating those claims and has threatened to shut down Campbell’s in its state if it finds any truth to the allegations.
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Speaker 1: Hey, they're folks. It is Wednesday, November twenty six, the day before Thanksgiving. It and before you use any campbell soup and your Thanksgiving meal preparation, you need to hear this. The CEO has a message for you.
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Speaker 2: Not quite CEO, he's the vice president. He is a vice president. Yeah, he's an executive.
00:00:23
Speaker 1: He's a hierarchy executive who want He has a message robes for people who are wanting to use their products. He wants you to know that it is ultra processed and it's unhealthy.
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Speaker 2: It's like bio engineered meat.
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Speaker 1: Yes, with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Robes. First, you're using you said you're using Campbell's products.
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Speaker 2: It is not going to deter me. I actually have two cast roles that require One of them requires cream of mushroom soup. Campbell's in the pantry right now. The other one requires Campbell's cream of chicken soup.
00:00:58
Speaker 1: Yumy, they're so good.
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Speaker 2: What kind of guess green bean cast role is the cream of mushroom soup. It's just an old staple from way back when that I just love. And nothing says Thanksgiving like fried onions on top of canned green beans and canned cream mushroom soup. It's so good.
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Speaker 1: Wow. So the Campbell soup is probably the least of your problems in that particular dish, okay, if anybody's eating it.
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Speaker 2: And then we have my annual specialty that came to me from my mom, which came to her from her mom, which is a potato bakes and.
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Speaker 1: It has what Campbell's product.
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Speaker 2: Is called Country Potato bake. It has cream of chicken soup. We're little chicken chunks in the cream of chicken soup.
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Speaker 1: So that's what did he say about the chicken.
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Speaker 2: He said it was came from a three D printer.
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Speaker 1: Yes, that was the other thing this executive said. So, yes, it was not the CEO. Make sure we'll get that out there. But this was the vice president for it for the company, King executive Robes, who actually has nothing to do with food production at all.
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Speaker 2: But you would think he would know how the sausage is made though, being that he is at the level he's at and the things he's seen, if he is the VP of it, that means he's seen lots of communications lying around about the general memos and I don't know you'd think he'd be privy to things that the rest of us are not.
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Speaker 1: Well. Martin Bally is his name, but he was named in a lawsuit from an employee who says he was fired improperly. So this is why this is coming out. We'll get into the details, but it's coming out now because of that lawsuit, and a part of that lawsuit, Robes is a at the center of it. At least right now, there is a recording that this man has made when he was an employee there and had a meeting with this vice president in which he said all kinds of racist remarks and made several comments disparaging the product itself in Robes went on for a while.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Robert Garza actually said he was going to meet his boss, Martin Bally, the VP and Chief Information Security Officer is his title as well. So he was there to talk about his raise at a diner, and he said, true to form, his boss Martin Bally started going off on rants, and so he decided to record the conversation. He ended up with an hour and fifteen minutes of a recorded conversation. And by the way, where he recorded it, his lawyers wanted to point out it is perfectly legal. All you need is one party consent. The other person doesn't have to know. One of the people involved in the conversation has to know it's being recorded, and then it's legal. But my god, this audio recording is damning. And he said it was so disturbing that he didn't say he had the recording. He just went to his supervisor and told him what happened. He said he was not given any to go to HR, He was not giving any advice on how to handle it. But all he knows is twenty days later he was fired and he had no idea why. He said he wasn't given a reason, He wasn't given a follow up. And he said in the meeting with Bally, Balu actually was praising him at how well he was doing his job. So it seemed as though it were it was retribution for basically whistleblowing. And now he's got the audio recording, and man, is it damning?
00:04:31
Speaker 1: Which is this now? Right? It's a legal I don't know how much of a big deal of a legal matter this would be. Big companies get sued all the time by employees to scruntle. It happens all the time, and we never hear about it. If this recording did not exist, we wouldn't have heard about this one. My question to you, does he have a case without this recording?
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Speaker 2: I don't think so, he said, he said, then right at that point.
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Speaker 1: But is he basing all of his issues on this? Yeah, the focus is the recording and this made him want to go to HR and then he got fired. Yes, correct, he's saying, yes, this was my Oh well yeah, damn.
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Speaker 2: It's his proof. And he actually ended up so yes, they filed the lawsuit, and then he actually let a Detroit News reporter, because this all happened in Michigan, listen to the recording. I have to say, when I first saw the story, I was skeptical because you hear disgruntled employee god fired, is angry files a lawsuit? I thought, uh huh okay, And then I heard the recording and it is powerful and there is a reason why this story is now making international headlines. We even right now have a state, the state of Florida, threatening to ban Campbell's soup products from the entire state of Florida. That's how far this has gotten.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: If they had just listened to Robert Garza when he told them what Martin Bally said to him. This could have all been avoided.
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Speaker 1: Isn't that something if you just do the right thing in the moment, you could avoid a bigger problem down the road.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, just investigate what he says. Don't fire him for saying something you didn't want to hear, because he was. It seems as though he was telling the truth.
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Speaker 1: And the devastating part of this recording is not I'm not thinking, oh this Mortn Valley is such a bad guy, or even it's devastating for Campbell's. It's devastating what he's saying about their products. Look, an insult to the customers is one thing, but he, in a moment, an honest moment, said their product is crap, and it's so crappy he doesn't even use it. Wow.
00:06:45
Speaker 2: All right, so we have some of the excerpts. Can we say what he said without causing any problem.
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Speaker 1: I've been doing it for two days. Want to clean it up?
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Speaker 2: That's okay? No, no, no, he says, among many things. This is from the Rook recording, and Robert Garza says, this is Martin Bally again, Campbell's soup vice president and chief Information Security officer, saying, we have shit for fucking poor people who buys our shit. I don't buy Campbell's products barely anymore. It's not healthy. Now that I know what the fuck's in it?
00:07:19
Speaker 1: That is just awful. Who's the competitor? Who is Campbell's soup competitor? Is there?
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Speaker 2: I was just thinking, chunky, that's so funny. You can't really think I can't come up with in this moment. Amy's has some there's an Amy's organic brand I've seen on the store shelf.
00:07:40
Speaker 1: This was politics. They would take that recording and play it over and over again and say, yep, that's where they are telling you about their products. Come over here and try ours.
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Speaker 2: This is crazy, Yes, it gets He also goes on to say bio engineered. I don't want to eat a piece of chicken that came from a three D printer. And that is part of what is causing Florida's Attorney general to say, hey, we actually funny enough this year put a ban in place on bioengineered meat being sold in our state. So now they have ordered an investigation to say or to find out if any of what this executive said is in fact true. Now, he also admitted to Garza on this recording that he goes to work high on THHC marijuana edibles. He just told him that. I mean, that would be a fireable offense in and of itself. But then he goes on to make incredibly derogatory comments about the Indian employees. I actually feel uncomfortable saying what he said. But he just basically said that the Indian employees at Campbell's Soup don't know a effing thing, they couldn't think for their effing selves, and called them idiots.
00:09:07
Speaker 1: Damn, that is.
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Speaker 2: Harsh and hard to explain away, like, oh my words were taking out of context now, I mean he has the recording an hour and fifteen minutes and it goes on and on and on.
00:09:21
Speaker 1: So yeah, and look, he's not going back to work there. He's on leave now, he has been placed on leave. I mean, obviously he's not going back to work. How much work do they have to do now to make up for this? You said it, didn't you did chicken line? You just use there. Yeah, one of your cans is cream of chicken.
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Speaker 2: Yes, it has little chicken chunks in it.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so you hear this, you think anything, you don't stop for a second at all, You just go right about. You think most people would just keep it rolling and keep getting their Campbell's Tomato soup.
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Speaker 2: And I think some people will, and I think other people will make a choice to change. Yes, I mean, look, I have This is one I would like to talk to my dad about because my dad was is a microbiologist, but he worked for a very long time in the meat industry, and specifically in the chicken industry, and he used to always take issue with people making comments about McDonald's. You know, they're like, oh, McDonald's chicken nuggets aren't really chicken, and my dad would get very upset and say, they are absolutely one hundred percent chicken. I can show you do not believe that BS. That is all rumors, It is not true. So I kind of have that line of thinking when it comes to what someone might say flippantly about their company's products. But it's hard not to at least consider what this guy is saying and investigate perhaps what might be going on. But we did get some very specific and strong language from Campbell's soup company. As you might imagine, they really felt the need to respond to this, and we'll tell you what they have to say about what their employee, their executive said on a secret recording, and we'll let you be the judge. Continuing our conversation about what is in your Campbell's soup? Can do you feel comfortable consuming Campbell's soup? You're not a big soup guy anyway.
00:11:25
Speaker 1: I can't remember the last time I had soup of any kind, even when I'm sick. I won't even eat chicken noodle. So when did I have soup last? I never liked the tomato soup with the cheese, the cheese. Oh, the grilled cheese, grilled cheese sandwich with the tomato.
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Speaker 2: Best comfort food ever, grilled cheese tomato soup. So it's funny. I haven't had a lot of soup since you and I have been together because you don't like it. And I will get French onion souper around you, but it's not like I make it in the house. I used to make potato soup. I used I love, love, love love butternut squash soup. I love all of it. And I will tell you Campbell's growing up. I can whittle. I can just say exactly the soups I loved because this was a big product in our house. And I will say we we were definitely cutting coupons and all of that. So to what he was saying perhaps could be true. But chicken noodle, bean with bacon, that was my absolute favorite. Bean with bacon, soup, French onion soup, cream of mushroom. Oh, I love.
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Speaker 1: Wait, cream of mushroom. You just eat it? Yes, I thought it was only using dishes. Oh God, no, I ate that cream of mushroom.
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Speaker 2: I loved it, delicious, salty. What do you mean? I'm I sure, yes, I ate cream mushroom soup.
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Speaker 1: It's just a soup.
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Speaker 2: Yes. Then there's cream of broccoli. There's like broccoli and cheddar. I used to eat those soups. I mean it was something that we probably ate in my house growing up at least twice a week. Wow, I mean that is how much we ate campbell soup. So anyway, Campbell's has had a lot of work this week. Their PR department has been on overtime on a holiday week. I'm sure they're really excited. Really did them in? Look? I have seen my dad deal with recalls and other food safety issues while We're on vacation, and when these kinds of stories break, it is all about like managing managing the headlines. Obviously, making sure your product safe is the most important thing. But this is a huge pr disaster on a holiday week for Campbell Soup.
00:13:21
Speaker 1: This isn't a product issue. This isn't a safety of your product issue at all. This is just somebody who's put into the minds of America that your product is no good, it's healthier. You're hiding something about.
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Speaker 2: It during a week where people are using your products, probably more than ever. That's the thing I'm telling you. Campbell's soup cans are staples and cast roles. Cast Roles are staples on Thanksgiving tables period across it. So this is huge. So Campbell Soup said this, if accurate, the comments in the recording are unacceptable. They do not reflect our values and the culture of our company. We are actively instigating this matter. So that was probably about the Indian slurs that were said. Then this about the food. The comments heard on the recording about our food are not only inaccurate, they are patently absurd. We use one hundred percent real chicken in our soups. The chicken meat comes from long trusted USDA approved us suppliers and meets our high quality standards. All of our soups are made with no antibiotics ever chicken meat. Any claims to the contrary are completely false. And they did add this one last bit. The person alleged to be speaking on the recording works in it and has nothing to do with how we make our food y.
00:14:43
Speaker 1: I like that last note. This guy don't know what he's talking about. We don't even let him in a lab.
00:14:50
Speaker 2: But he is the chief information security officer. So if your chief information security officer doesn't know anything about your food, that's another problem in and of itself.
00:15:00
Speaker 1: Consider it this way, how much do you think the it guy at networks we worked at are up on how the sausage of the news is made and decisions are in the newsroom. That's a total separation. Isn't it possible that he is totally out of the loop without a doubt? Then why is he? What is he think?
00:15:25
Speaker 2: Because he's trying to sound like a funny, cool guy. You know, you can kind of see it. Who knows, maybe he had popped an edible right.
00:15:32
Speaker 1: What you listened to it? How did he sound. I mean, he just.
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Speaker 2: Sounded like he was trying to be too cool for school, and he was a little angry. Maybe he was a little bitter about something. Who knows, someone rubbed him the wrong way. He popped an edible. He got this like, I know, it's not liquid courage, it's gummy courage whatever, And he just thought he was going to show off and spout out all this stuff and be the big man on campus. I don't know.
00:15:53
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a scenario.
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Speaker 2: That's a scenario. Well, but this has real life implications. Florida's Attorney general said he and he said, I will shut down well, I will shut down Campbell's soup any violator of the state's law on lab grown meat. So they have officially launched an investigation into Campbell's in the state of Florida.
00:16:13
Speaker 1: Damn.
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Speaker 2: And he said this was his He put this out on x This is Florida Attorney General, James uf Meyer. He said, we don't do the fake lab grown meat here in Florida. We'll enforce the law and shut it down. So that is where things stand in Florida. So their state's Consumer Protection Division is launching an investigation. I mean that is that's very I don't know that the Garza had any idea. He just probably wants to win his lawsuit. He said it took him ten months to get his job another job. He said, this really was a significant hardship for him to be fired without cause. And man, the implications are far reached.
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Speaker 1: O Florida is telling Campbell's you don't you don't have access to the third fourth most populous state in the nation. Yeah, taking that that's money. This is huge. Now they're going to be able to prove I would guess I.
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Speaker 2: Would think they would too. But I just think like that legitimizes the seriousness potentially of these allegations, or at least what this man is saying for folks who are again reaching in the grocery store aisles to pick what they want to put in their food for Thanksgiving. I think this could give a lot of folks pause.
00:17:31
Speaker 1: It lends credibility for doing this, lends credibility to his words that we have to at least look into it. Wow, this was Yeah, you were you were on one about this story for the past couple of days.
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Speaker 2: Because I love Campbell's soup and have since I was as young as I can remember. So this is a big deal. This is not over. Clearly, this story is going to continue and we will follow it for you. But you know what, y'all, enjoy your Campbell's soup infused cast rules like I will be doing on this Thanksgiving Bess.
00:18:04
Speaker 1: Not a castlerole guy, you know, I'm not a castlele guy.
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Speaker 2: But it's good. The country potato bake with corn flakes.
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Speaker 1: On top, corn flakes on a casserole.
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Speaker 2: It's delicious.
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Speaker 1: Raisins in there too.
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Speaker 2: No, I don't, actually I don't like raisins in my casseroles.
00:18:21
Speaker 1: But people do that.
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Speaker 2: Some people do all right without everyone. Thank you for listening to us. I may be Robock alongside my castle role love and fiance DJ Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 1: Hey, they're folks. It is Wednesday, November twenty six, the day before Thanksgiving. It and before you use any campbell soup and your Thanksgiving meal preparation, you need to hear this. The CEO has a message for you.
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Speaker 2: Not quite CEO, he's the vice president. He is a vice president. Yeah, he's an executive.
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Speaker 1: He's a hierarchy executive who want He has a message robes for people who are wanting to use their products. He wants you to know that it is ultra processed and it's unhealthy.
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Speaker 2: It's like bio engineered meat.
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Speaker 1: Yes, with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Robes. First, you're using you said you're using Campbell's products.
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Speaker 2: It is not going to deter me. I actually have two cast roles that require One of them requires cream of mushroom soup. Campbell's in the pantry right now. The other one requires Campbell's cream of chicken soup.
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Speaker 1: Yumy, they're so good.
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Speaker 2: What kind of guess green bean cast role is the cream of mushroom soup. It's just an old staple from way back when that I just love. And nothing says Thanksgiving like fried onions on top of canned green beans and canned cream mushroom soup. It's so good.
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Speaker 1: Wow. So the Campbell soup is probably the least of your problems in that particular dish, okay, if anybody's eating it.
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Speaker 2: And then we have my annual specialty that came to me from my mom, which came to her from her mom, which is a potato bakes and.
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Speaker 1: It has what Campbell's product.
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Speaker 2: Is called Country Potato bake. It has cream of chicken soup. We're little chicken chunks in the cream of chicken soup.
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Speaker 1: So that's what did he say about the chicken.
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Speaker 2: He said it was came from a three D printer.
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Speaker 1: Yes, that was the other thing this executive said. So, yes, it was not the CEO. Make sure we'll get that out there. But this was the vice president for it for the company, King executive Robes, who actually has nothing to do with food production at all.
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Speaker 2: But you would think he would know how the sausage is made though, being that he is at the level he's at and the things he's seen, if he is the VP of it, that means he's seen lots of communications lying around about the general memos and I don't know you'd think he'd be privy to things that the rest of us are not.
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Speaker 1: Well. Martin Bally is his name, but he was named in a lawsuit from an employee who says he was fired improperly. So this is why this is coming out. We'll get into the details, but it's coming out now because of that lawsuit, and a part of that lawsuit, Robes is a at the center of it. At least right now, there is a recording that this man has made when he was an employee there and had a meeting with this vice president in which he said all kinds of racist remarks and made several comments disparaging the product itself in Robes went on for a while.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Robert Garza actually said he was going to meet his boss, Martin Bally, the VP and Chief Information Security Officer is his title as well. So he was there to talk about his raise at a diner, and he said, true to form, his boss Martin Bally started going off on rants, and so he decided to record the conversation. He ended up with an hour and fifteen minutes of a recorded conversation. And by the way, where he recorded it, his lawyers wanted to point out it is perfectly legal. All you need is one party consent. The other person doesn't have to know. One of the people involved in the conversation has to know it's being recorded, and then it's legal. But my god, this audio recording is damning. And he said it was so disturbing that he didn't say he had the recording. He just went to his supervisor and told him what happened. He said he was not given any to go to HR, He was not giving any advice on how to handle it. But all he knows is twenty days later he was fired and he had no idea why. He said he wasn't given a reason, He wasn't given a follow up. And he said in the meeting with Bally, Balu actually was praising him at how well he was doing his job. So it seemed as though it were it was retribution for basically whistleblowing. And now he's got the audio recording, and man, is it damning?
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Speaker 1: Which is this now? Right? It's a legal I don't know how much of a big deal of a legal matter this would be. Big companies get sued all the time by employees to scruntle. It happens all the time, and we never hear about it. If this recording did not exist, we wouldn't have heard about this one. My question to you, does he have a case without this recording?
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Speaker 2: I don't think so, he said, he said, then right at that point.
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Speaker 1: But is he basing all of his issues on this? Yeah, the focus is the recording and this made him want to go to HR and then he got fired. Yes, correct, he's saying, yes, this was my Oh well yeah, damn.
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Speaker 2: It's his proof. And he actually ended up so yes, they filed the lawsuit, and then he actually let a Detroit News reporter, because this all happened in Michigan, listen to the recording. I have to say, when I first saw the story, I was skeptical because you hear disgruntled employee god fired, is angry files a lawsuit? I thought, uh huh okay, And then I heard the recording and it is powerful and there is a reason why this story is now making international headlines. We even right now have a state, the state of Florida, threatening to ban Campbell's soup products from the entire state of Florida. That's how far this has gotten.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: If they had just listened to Robert Garza when he told them what Martin Bally said to him. This could have all been avoided.
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Speaker 1: Isn't that something if you just do the right thing in the moment, you could avoid a bigger problem down the road.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, just investigate what he says. Don't fire him for saying something you didn't want to hear, because he was. It seems as though he was telling the truth.
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Speaker 1: And the devastating part of this recording is not I'm not thinking, oh this Mortn Valley is such a bad guy, or even it's devastating for Campbell's. It's devastating what he's saying about their products. Look, an insult to the customers is one thing, but he, in a moment, an honest moment, said their product is crap, and it's so crappy he doesn't even use it. Wow.
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Speaker 2: All right, so we have some of the excerpts. Can we say what he said without causing any problem.
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Speaker 1: I've been doing it for two days. Want to clean it up?
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Speaker 2: That's okay? No, no, no, he says, among many things. This is from the Rook recording, and Robert Garza says, this is Martin Bally again, Campbell's soup vice president and chief Information Security officer, saying, we have shit for fucking poor people who buys our shit. I don't buy Campbell's products barely anymore. It's not healthy. Now that I know what the fuck's in it?
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Speaker 1: That is just awful. Who's the competitor? Who is Campbell's soup competitor? Is there?
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Speaker 2: I was just thinking, chunky, that's so funny. You can't really think I can't come up with in this moment. Amy's has some there's an Amy's organic brand I've seen on the store shelf.
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Speaker 1: This was politics. They would take that recording and play it over and over again and say, yep, that's where they are telling you about their products. Come over here and try ours.
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Speaker 2: This is crazy, Yes, it gets He also goes on to say bio engineered. I don't want to eat a piece of chicken that came from a three D printer. And that is part of what is causing Florida's Attorney general to say, hey, we actually funny enough this year put a ban in place on bioengineered meat being sold in our state. So now they have ordered an investigation to say or to find out if any of what this executive said is in fact true. Now, he also admitted to Garza on this recording that he goes to work high on THHC marijuana edibles. He just told him that. I mean, that would be a fireable offense in and of itself. But then he goes on to make incredibly derogatory comments about the Indian employees. I actually feel uncomfortable saying what he said. But he just basically said that the Indian employees at Campbell's Soup don't know a effing thing, they couldn't think for their effing selves, and called them idiots.
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Speaker 1: Damn, that is.
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Speaker 2: Harsh and hard to explain away, like, oh my words were taking out of context now, I mean he has the recording an hour and fifteen minutes and it goes on and on and on.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, and look, he's not going back to work there. He's on leave now, he has been placed on leave. I mean, obviously he's not going back to work. How much work do they have to do now to make up for this? You said it, didn't you did chicken line? You just use there. Yeah, one of your cans is cream of chicken.
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Speaker 2: Yes, it has little chicken chunks in it.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so you hear this, you think anything, you don't stop for a second at all, You just go right about. You think most people would just keep it rolling and keep getting their Campbell's Tomato soup.
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Speaker 2: And I think some people will, and I think other people will make a choice to change. Yes, I mean, look, I have This is one I would like to talk to my dad about because my dad was is a microbiologist, but he worked for a very long time in the meat industry, and specifically in the chicken industry, and he used to always take issue with people making comments about McDonald's. You know, they're like, oh, McDonald's chicken nuggets aren't really chicken, and my dad would get very upset and say, they are absolutely one hundred percent chicken. I can show you do not believe that BS. That is all rumors, It is not true. So I kind of have that line of thinking when it comes to what someone might say flippantly about their company's products. But it's hard not to at least consider what this guy is saying and investigate perhaps what might be going on. But we did get some very specific and strong language from Campbell's soup company. As you might imagine, they really felt the need to respond to this, and we'll tell you what they have to say about what their employee, their executive said on a secret recording, and we'll let you be the judge. Continuing our conversation about what is in your Campbell's soup? Can do you feel comfortable consuming Campbell's soup? You're not a big soup guy anyway.
00:11:25
Speaker 1: I can't remember the last time I had soup of any kind, even when I'm sick. I won't even eat chicken noodle. So when did I have soup last? I never liked the tomato soup with the cheese, the cheese. Oh, the grilled cheese, grilled cheese sandwich with the tomato.
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Speaker 2: Best comfort food ever, grilled cheese tomato soup. So it's funny. I haven't had a lot of soup since you and I have been together because you don't like it. And I will get French onion souper around you, but it's not like I make it in the house. I used to make potato soup. I used I love, love, love love butternut squash soup. I love all of it. And I will tell you Campbell's growing up. I can whittle. I can just say exactly the soups I loved because this was a big product in our house. And I will say we we were definitely cutting coupons and all of that. So to what he was saying perhaps could be true. But chicken noodle, bean with bacon, that was my absolute favorite. Bean with bacon, soup, French onion soup, cream of mushroom. Oh, I love.
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Speaker 1: Wait, cream of mushroom. You just eat it? Yes, I thought it was only using dishes. Oh God, no, I ate that cream of mushroom.
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Speaker 2: I loved it, delicious, salty. What do you mean? I'm I sure, yes, I ate cream mushroom soup.
00:12:36
Speaker 1: It's just a soup.
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Speaker 2: Yes. Then there's cream of broccoli. There's like broccoli and cheddar. I used to eat those soups. I mean it was something that we probably ate in my house growing up at least twice a week. Wow, I mean that is how much we ate campbell soup. So anyway, Campbell's has had a lot of work this week. Their PR department has been on overtime on a holiday week. I'm sure they're really excited. Really did them in? Look? I have seen my dad deal with recalls and other food safety issues while We're on vacation, and when these kinds of stories break, it is all about like managing managing the headlines. Obviously, making sure your product safe is the most important thing. But this is a huge pr disaster on a holiday week for Campbell Soup.
00:13:21
Speaker 1: This isn't a product issue. This isn't a safety of your product issue at all. This is just somebody who's put into the minds of America that your product is no good, it's healthier. You're hiding something about.
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Speaker 2: It during a week where people are using your products, probably more than ever. That's the thing I'm telling you. Campbell's soup cans are staples and cast roles. Cast Roles are staples on Thanksgiving tables period across it. So this is huge. So Campbell Soup said this, if accurate, the comments in the recording are unacceptable. They do not reflect our values and the culture of our company. We are actively instigating this matter. So that was probably about the Indian slurs that were said. Then this about the food. The comments heard on the recording about our food are not only inaccurate, they are patently absurd. We use one hundred percent real chicken in our soups. The chicken meat comes from long trusted USDA approved us suppliers and meets our high quality standards. All of our soups are made with no antibiotics ever chicken meat. Any claims to the contrary are completely false. And they did add this one last bit. The person alleged to be speaking on the recording works in it and has nothing to do with how we make our food y.
00:14:43
Speaker 1: I like that last note. This guy don't know what he's talking about. We don't even let him in a lab.
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Speaker 2: But he is the chief information security officer. So if your chief information security officer doesn't know anything about your food, that's another problem in and of itself.
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Speaker 1: Consider it this way, how much do you think the it guy at networks we worked at are up on how the sausage of the news is made and decisions are in the newsroom. That's a total separation. Isn't it possible that he is totally out of the loop without a doubt? Then why is he? What is he think?
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Speaker 2: Because he's trying to sound like a funny, cool guy. You know, you can kind of see it. Who knows, maybe he had popped an edible right.
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Speaker 1: What you listened to it? How did he sound. I mean, he just.
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Speaker 2: Sounded like he was trying to be too cool for school, and he was a little angry. Maybe he was a little bitter about something. Who knows, someone rubbed him the wrong way. He popped an edible. He got this like, I know, it's not liquid courage, it's gummy courage whatever, And he just thought he was going to show off and spout out all this stuff and be the big man on campus. I don't know.
00:15:53
Speaker 1: Okay, that's a scenario.
00:15:55
Speaker 2: That's a scenario. Well, but this has real life implications. Florida's Attorney general said he and he said, I will shut down well, I will shut down Campbell's soup any violator of the state's law on lab grown meat. So they have officially launched an investigation into Campbell's in the state of Florida.
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Speaker 1: Damn.
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Speaker 2: And he said this was his He put this out on x This is Florida Attorney General, James uf Meyer. He said, we don't do the fake lab grown meat here in Florida. We'll enforce the law and shut it down. So that is where things stand in Florida. So their state's Consumer Protection Division is launching an investigation. I mean that is that's very I don't know that the Garza had any idea. He just probably wants to win his lawsuit. He said it took him ten months to get his job another job. He said, this really was a significant hardship for him to be fired without cause. And man, the implications are far reached.
00:16:56
Speaker 1: O Florida is telling Campbell's you don't you don't have access to the third fourth most populous state in the nation. Yeah, taking that that's money. This is huge. Now they're going to be able to prove I would guess I.
00:17:12
Speaker 2: Would think they would too. But I just think like that legitimizes the seriousness potentially of these allegations, or at least what this man is saying for folks who are again reaching in the grocery store aisles to pick what they want to put in their food for Thanksgiving. I think this could give a lot of folks pause.
00:17:31
Speaker 1: It lends credibility for doing this, lends credibility to his words that we have to at least look into it. Wow, this was Yeah, you were you were on one about this story for the past couple of days.
00:17:43
Speaker 2: Because I love Campbell's soup and have since I was as young as I can remember. So this is a big deal. This is not over. Clearly, this story is going to continue and we will follow it for you. But you know what, y'all, enjoy your Campbell's soup infused cast rules like I will be doing on this Thanksgiving Bess.
00:18:04
Speaker 1: Not a castlerole guy, you know, I'm not a castlele guy.
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Speaker 2: But it's good. The country potato bake with corn flakes.
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Speaker 1: On top, corn flakes on a casserole.
00:18:16
Speaker 2: It's delicious.
00:18:17
Speaker 1: Raisins in there too.
00:18:18
Speaker 2: No, I don't, actually I don't like raisins in my casseroles.
00:18:21
Speaker 1: But people do that.
00:18:23
Speaker 2: Some people do all right without everyone. Thank you for listening to us. I may be Robock alongside my castle role love and fiance DJ Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.