Nov. 4, 2025
“Juicy” Congresswoman Halloween Costume: Sounds Sexy, but It’s Actually Racist
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RSS Feed 3 term Colorado Congresswoman Lauren Boebert is facing backlash for her choice of Halloween Costumes this year. Pictures have surfaced of her wearing a sombrero, in a Mexican dress, holding a racially charged sign. Boebert’s date showed up alongside her dressed as an ICE agent. This isn’t Representative Boebert’s first controversy, in fact, there’s a whole string of them.
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Speaker 1: Hey, the folks. Sit is Tuesday, November fourth, And to be honest with you, Roback and I have actually been fighting about whether or not to do this episode because I don't even believe the story is real. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Robes. It cannot be real because nobody can, as it's impossible that anybody would do what they're suggesting, even with photographic evidence this lady has done.
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Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, this isn't a suggestion, this is actual facts. Okay, doctor, we're talking about Colorado Representative Lauren Bobert.
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Speaker 3: And I brought this to your attention because I saw.
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Speaker 2: People writing articles about what she wore for her Halloween costume and I mentioned it to you, and you're like, that's not real.
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Speaker 1: Now this started this morning, did it not? So we're recording now in the afternoon of November four, But weren't we talking about this pre five am?
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Speaker 2: But what you didn't know, and maybe what I didn't tell you, was that her boyfriend showed up and the two of them together is what made the Halloween.
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Speaker 3: Costume choice extra offensive.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean it would have been offensive on its own, but it was an added layer with the boyfriend.
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Speaker 3: And so when you saw the whole thing, you said, this isn't real.
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Speaker 1: No, No, I actually skip I'll be honest. I skipped over the story when I initially saw it because I saw her standing there and whatever she was in. I just saw the headline and I kept moving on. Whatever like it, don't like it, feel like it's the most racist thing ever, or Okay, it's just what some people do now and let's move on. I just kept rolling, didn't even skip a beat. And you seem surprised when I said.
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Speaker 2: Nah, yeah, because this seems like a story right up your alley. It's interesting, it's it's provocative, and it's also head scratching. Because should we tell the listeners what the cosme was, okay first, so that they can get a whole feel of this.
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Speaker 1: But I want you to go through. Let's start with this Beaubert Lauren Bobert, who has done Bolbert, excuse me, Bobert, who has done some things and been caught up in some scandals and whatever, who has stepped in it before I see her controversy in the headline, wearing some I think they called it racially charged Halloween costume. I glanced by the photo. She's wearing a sombrero and a Mexican dress. I move on, and a short time ago you stopped me and explained the rest. See.
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Speaker 2: So, yes, she did have a sombrero. She did have a Mexican dress on. She also had a sign with her that said Mexican word of the day, juicy, Tell me if juicy ice coming.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't see that part.
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Speaker 3: I tried not to do.
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Speaker 2: That with any sort of Hispanic accent because that would have seemed very, very very importaste. But if you do it with it, you can see it actually is saying tell me if you see ice coming, right, but with a very offensive Hispanic accent. Now, on top of that, her boyfriend, her date to this Halloween party, was an ice agent.
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Speaker 3: So a complete mockery of a.
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Speaker 2: Very serious and frankly devastating situation in our country.
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Speaker 1: Right now, I missed. I missed the detail about the date being dressed as a as an ice agent and a sigh.
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Speaker 3: Again, this was a party in Littleton, Colorado.
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Speaker 1: Okay, you saw some other photos. Did it seem like anyone else was uncomfortable? Did she seem to be mingling taking pictures with people. The whole shit.
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Speaker 2: She seemed to be mingling. She seemed to be taking pictures with people. There are they they are with one other person smiling. But reportedly the pictures surfaced or came out because someone at the party reportedly was so offended by what they saw that they took the pictures and then gave them to I believe the Denver Post, the local newspaper, and that is the outlet that first published these photos.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you still, as we sit here, I'm having some doubt, Like I've seen the pictures, wondering if they could have been doctored where they came from. Who would have done something like this if it's possible. I am being straight with you, doll. When I as I'm sitting here, I am like, ugh, maybe maybe we should hold off, because I have a hard time believing that somebody would walk out.
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Speaker 3: Of the house in that not just somebody.
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Speaker 1: Member of Congress. I'm still struggling with that. Look. We've seen a of offensive outfits and Halloween costumes here and there this, and some people go, oh, I made a mistake or I didn't consider or would have done it differently.
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Speaker 2: She is a third term congress woman from Colorado's fourth district. She knows what she's doing, and she knows the attention she's getting. And how about this if you want to be convinced that this was a choice.
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Speaker 3: She has an official response.
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Speaker 2: At least her office has responded to media requests. ABC News reported this the Denver Post. It's a Halloween costume. Tell our senators to vote for the cr and open the government. They are choosing to let millions of American families suffer end quote.
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Speaker 1: That can't be real.
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Speaker 2: That is her official statement. We sure in response to the Halloween costume controversy, We.
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Speaker 1: Sure that really came from her.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think you still were thinking that for quite some time, until we googled her name and realize that this is just the latest in a string of controversies that has followed her or she, I don't know is created and it's quite remarkable.
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Speaker 1: But given some of the ones we've we've known about in the past, this still I'm having a difficult I know you were. I was for the longest I was not convinced. I kept I was being dismissive of you. Almost you were.
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Speaker 3: I was like babe, this isn't made up.
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Speaker 1: The baby being aied, somebody's fooling you.
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Speaker 2: You actually had me zoom in on the picture to see if you could see if it was photoshopped.
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Speaker 3: That's how much you did not believe that this was real.
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Speaker 1: I just, even given what we have seen in some of the controversies and scandals that even that some of her own party she has rubbed the wrong way with some of these things. Even given all that, I just wrote, that's what's the sign. The sign she had well.
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Speaker 2: Has Mexican word of the day, juicy. Tell me if Juicy Ice coming, that's terrible. I don't one the person who took the pictures reportedly is the one who said it was disgusting, disgusting behavior and people were not laughing. They didn't think it was funny. Obviously it's not. But it is remarkable that a member of Congress would choose that outfit and know she was going to be photographed and pose for photographs, knowing that she represents a district that is fourteen percent Hispanic.
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Speaker 1: It's I don't know how you apologize for that one.
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Speaker 3: She hasn't.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how. It's a costume it's a Halloween costume. There's something. There's got to be a humanity in it all. There's gotta be an ounce of I mean, empathy for your for a human being, no matter what. And I can't imagine that kind of intentional slight to a culture.
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Speaker 3: It is hard to get your head around.
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Speaker 1: But I don't think she thought it was just funny. There's gotta be a reason. There's got to be a constituency. There's got to be something. There's got to be somethingting in somebody she's playing to think this is okay.
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Speaker 2: Well, there were some responses just to get an idea about how people in that community, in the Latino community felt about what she did. The president of the Latino Coalition in Colorado told this to the Denver Post. She should be ashamed of herself. Though I believe she is incapable of any emotion that generates human decency. Her bigotry and ignorance are clearly evident in her chosen apparel this day, and then State Senator Julie Gonzalez, who was also the co chair of the Colorado Democratic Latino Caucus, said she well, she asked Bobert to apologize and said she should know that our culture is not a costume and being bilingual is an.
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Speaker 3: Asset, not a joke. I thought that was really well well put.
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Speaker 1: They have to be fuming, and I would like to, you know, maybe she'll say nothing. I don't know what to explain. I don't know what I need to hear to relax a little bit about what you feel when you see something like this, and you know, I'm always this way and even in this one like to hear something from her. I would like to. I just I don't understand.
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Speaker 2: What's so interesting though, because we actually did a bit of a deep dive on her and to consider where she came from, and she's talked about this publicly, about her story, how she was uprooted from Florida to the state of Colorado, how her family was on welfare, how she did not live an opulent life. She had a tough life, and she talked about going through that. So it's just interesting someone who's had that kind of a upbringing. She actually dropped out of high school because she got pregnant, and she got her ged I believe, just a few years ago before she was elected into office, so she knows what it's like to struggle. She knows what it's like to feel marginalized in some ways. So it's so interesting to me that she can't acknowledge or understand how what she's choosing to do to laugh fat or to make a joke or mockery of is actually incredibly painful.
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Speaker 1: Imagining the difficulty she must have had in her life. I think you almost want to stand up and applaud when you hear that. And to think that woman made it to Congress, raised four boys, made it to Congress and is in a third term. That should be celebrated. Her background that should be highlighted and focused and talked about and looked at. And but why the opportunity she's had to be that? Look, I'm sure, I mean, she's getting elected. They must like her, somebody does, and she's doing her thing, and whatever she's doing is working out there. So who the hell are we to talk or criticize a Halloween costume? But we just mentioned a moment ago. This was not the first of her controversy. She had said some pretty controversial things in the past, and she has directed a lot of her comments toward her own her own fellow members of Congress, including accusing one of carrying a pimp cane and the other one of carrying a suicide bomb. Stay with us, we continue now. I'm starting ropes to get a little convinced that maybe this thing about Lauren Berbert Bobert, Congresswoman Lauren Bobert is is real.
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Speaker 3: That's good to hear.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm coming around. Maybe by the end of this episode I will be on board. But yeah, the outfit she wore dress and Mexican garb, wearing a sombrero. Her date is dressed as an ice agent and a really offensive message hanging around her neck. Rose you look is we haven't necessarily laughed in the first part of this episode. We're gonna be honest. We were looking up some of the stuff she has said and been accused of in the past and her response to it. It's almost just it's jaw dropping, but it makes your giggle, like are you kidding?
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Speaker 2: It's well, you're laughing because you're laughing in absolute horror and you just can't believe what you're reading. And so you were reading article and I was reading an article, and you'd be like what, and it's just it's that it's it's so offensive. Then you realize she has a history of doing this, and sometimes she apologizes and sometimes she doubles down, and it looks like this time she's laughing it off. But she doesn't have any real accountability for some pretty horrific things.
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Speaker 3: She said.
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Speaker 1: Did she ever a bucket? Does she I don't have it up? Does she apologize with the pimp kne She did not.
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Speaker 2: She doubled down. Okay, so we'll start with a double down. This is Representative Al Green.
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Speaker 1: He was.
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Speaker 3: He gave that fiery speech in the halls of Congress, and he had that cane.
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Speaker 1: Oh no, this is what he was interrupting Trump.
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Speaker 2: Oh, this is when President Trump was addressing Congress. He stood up, started yelling at Trump, and eventually he had to be escorted out correc So, Texas.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: Yes, So she was giving an interview shortly thereafter, and she spoke of Green. She said, she said for him to go and shake his pimp cane at President Trump was absolutely imbhorrent.
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Speaker 1: Don't hear that a lot in Congress? She said, They remember of Congress said a pimpkin.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and it was a black member of Congress to be very specific.
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Speaker 3: Are, by the way, yes, Al Green.
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Speaker 1: Pretty black name. I say that because you think about Al Green. There's one guy you think of when you hear Al Green.
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Speaker 3: The singer.
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Speaker 1: Yes, the singer and very smooth.
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Speaker 2: But in fact, when we when we were talking about this and you said his name, I was like, wait, is that the right name?
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Speaker 3: Isn't that the singer? I got really confused. It's funny you point that out.
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Speaker 1: And shaking a Pimpcine? Now she had an opportunity? Did she not to correct? To apologize about this?
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Speaker 3: Correct? So the first time she was asked, she said, I stand by what I said.
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Speaker 1: The first time. There's more than one yes.
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Speaker 2: And then she was she was she was on another show and they asked specifically about what she said, and she said, look, if that gold plated Kane isn't a Pimpcaine, I don't know what is Okay, So that is doubling down.
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Speaker 3: For sure.
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Speaker 1: She tripled. She had two opportunities down.
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Speaker 3: Yes, I stand by what I said.
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Speaker 1: Okay, when you said the last one, that's.
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Speaker 3: Just so well, then you start laughing. It's comical because it's so offensive. You actually don't know what else to do.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the words, should we be that offended? That upset about it. I don't know. No, you don't want your members of Congress hurling insults like that, yes.
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Speaker 2: And generalizations and offensive stereotypical.
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Speaker 1: Comments and that imagery. We know what that conjures up when you say something like that.
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Speaker 2: Yes, So that was in March of this past year. But before that, there was her beef with ilhan.
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Speaker 1: Omar to say gold plated pimp.
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Speaker 3: She said, gold plated Kane isn't a Pimpcane. I don't know what is.
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Speaker 2: Sorry, Yes, she said that, all right.
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Speaker 3: So with ilhan Omar, she was giving a speech, correct.
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Speaker 1: Bobert, No, she was recalling a story.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, So she was giving a speech and she had a crowd full of folks and she told this story about her time in Congress. She said, I'm quoting her. So the other night on the House floor was not my first jihad squad moment. I was getting into an elevator with one of my staffers, and he and I were leaving the Capitol. We're going back to my office and we get in the elevator and I see a Capitol police officer running hurriedly.
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Speaker 3: To the elevator.
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Speaker 2: I see fred all over his face and he's reaching the door shutting.
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Speaker 3: I can't open it. What's happening.
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Speaker 2: I looked to my left and there she is Ilhan Omar and I said, well, she doesn't have a backpack.
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Speaker 3: We should be fine. And the crowd laughed.
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Speaker 1: Oh.
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Speaker 2: Yes, she was telling it to a fundraising crowd. It was some group of friendly faces. So yes, she was being comedic. She was holding court, so to speak, telling a story and the folks were laughing.
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Speaker 1: And that got support from the crowd. Yes, okay, I didn't know that detail.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and so yeah and then yeah, so she just said and she just went on to then belittle her and say, so we only had one floor to go. And I say, do I say it or do I not? And I look over and I say, look, the Jihad squad decided to show up for work today. She actually said that to her face.
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Speaker 3: And then she.
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Speaker 2: Told the group she was speaking to, don't worry. It's just her staffers on Twitter that talk for her. She's not tough in person.
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Speaker 1: And Representative Omar I actually refuted at that door. She said, we never ever got on an elevator together, and this never happened, you know what. A represent of Omar had a good line I'm gonna mess it up a little bit, but this is almost verbatim. She said, it's a shame that Congresswoman Bobert thinks that biggest street, big tree will get you clapped.
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Speaker 3: Yes, I did see that. Yes I did.
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Speaker 2: Yes, And we've actually had Representative Omar, we've actually interviewed her. She's been very you know, you can agree with her or disagree with her. Been very level headed. She's not one to continue a fight. Certainly, even if it was pushed on her or put upon her, she handled it very.
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Speaker 3: She's a lot of classes.
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Speaker 1: She said. They got on the phone after this whole incident, said it went terribly and she said she had to get off the phone because it wasn't productive. She said, you didn't give it an apology. That was her statement, at least represent of Omar. But I know these are tough she had. This is somebody keeps getting elected. And look, some people look at this like people were making too big of a deal out of it. Eh, maybe you can certainly feel that way. I just I felt a certain way and just struggled. I did. It was so great there that I truly.
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Speaker 3: Did not believe you this day and age in fact.
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Speaker 2: I remember the Monday after Halloween, I was thinking to myself, Oh, I didn't read about any Halloween costume mishaps.
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Speaker 3: Over the years.
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Speaker 2: Too many people have made too many bad choices appropriating other people's cultures whatever, They offend people in some way, and I hadn't heard of one, and I was like, oh wow. And I remember thinking, this is one of those rare Halloweens where no one put on a stupid Halloween costume that got them in trouble.
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Speaker 1: But haven't we seen some ignorance, some oops, some genuine miscalculations and outfits before, and people have had to apologize, And like, I didn't know, we've seen some stuff around Halloween or elsewhere. This was you can't. I can't that you had to put out a chalkboard and write it out there that yeah.
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Speaker 2: And there have been enough of the other more subtle problems that people have run into where it feels like this was a choice.
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Speaker 1: Again that plenty of people may be listening that go, guys, that's a big deal.
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Speaker 3: Costume.
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Speaker 1: It's a Halloween costume. What's the big deal? Get over it. We got to shut down. We got bigger problems, sure.
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Speaker 2: I mean, look, I think that that's fine if you're a private citizen, but when you represent a district and you're elected and you're there to represent everybody, that is highly offensive and certainly not inclusive, and that's a kind way of putting her choice.
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Speaker 1: There is no way to argue with that, and with that, folks always appreciate you spend some time with us. I'm TJ. Holmes, behalf fingy robot will talk to y'lson.
Speaker 1: Hey, the folks. Sit is Tuesday, November fourth, And to be honest with you, Roback and I have actually been fighting about whether or not to do this episode because I don't even believe the story is real. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Robes. It cannot be real because nobody can, as it's impossible that anybody would do what they're suggesting, even with photographic evidence this lady has done.
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Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, this isn't a suggestion, this is actual facts. Okay, doctor, we're talking about Colorado Representative Lauren Bobert.
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Speaker 3: And I brought this to your attention because I saw.
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Speaker 2: People writing articles about what she wore for her Halloween costume and I mentioned it to you, and you're like, that's not real.
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Speaker 1: Now this started this morning, did it not? So we're recording now in the afternoon of November four, But weren't we talking about this pre five am?
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Speaker 2: But what you didn't know, and maybe what I didn't tell you, was that her boyfriend showed up and the two of them together is what made the Halloween.
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Speaker 3: Costume choice extra offensive.
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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean it would have been offensive on its own, but it was an added layer with the boyfriend.
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Speaker 3: And so when you saw the whole thing, you said, this isn't real.
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Speaker 1: No, No, I actually skip I'll be honest. I skipped over the story when I initially saw it because I saw her standing there and whatever she was in. I just saw the headline and I kept moving on. Whatever like it, don't like it, feel like it's the most racist thing ever, or Okay, it's just what some people do now and let's move on. I just kept rolling, didn't even skip a beat. And you seem surprised when I said.
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Speaker 2: Nah, yeah, because this seems like a story right up your alley. It's interesting, it's it's provocative, and it's also head scratching. Because should we tell the listeners what the cosme was, okay first, so that they can get a whole feel of this.
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Speaker 1: But I want you to go through. Let's start with this Beaubert Lauren Bobert, who has done Bolbert, excuse me, Bobert, who has done some things and been caught up in some scandals and whatever, who has stepped in it before I see her controversy in the headline, wearing some I think they called it racially charged Halloween costume. I glanced by the photo. She's wearing a sombrero and a Mexican dress. I move on, and a short time ago you stopped me and explained the rest. See.
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Speaker 2: So, yes, she did have a sombrero. She did have a Mexican dress on. She also had a sign with her that said Mexican word of the day, juicy, Tell me if juicy ice coming.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't see that part.
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Speaker 3: I tried not to do.
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Speaker 2: That with any sort of Hispanic accent because that would have seemed very, very very importaste. But if you do it with it, you can see it actually is saying tell me if you see ice coming, right, but with a very offensive Hispanic accent. Now, on top of that, her boyfriend, her date to this Halloween party, was an ice agent.
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Speaker 3: So a complete mockery of a.
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Speaker 2: Very serious and frankly devastating situation in our country.
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Speaker 1: Right now, I missed. I missed the detail about the date being dressed as a as an ice agent and a sigh.
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Speaker 3: Again, this was a party in Littleton, Colorado.
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Speaker 1: Okay, you saw some other photos. Did it seem like anyone else was uncomfortable? Did she seem to be mingling taking pictures with people. The whole shit.
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Speaker 2: She seemed to be mingling. She seemed to be taking pictures with people. There are they they are with one other person smiling. But reportedly the pictures surfaced or came out because someone at the party reportedly was so offended by what they saw that they took the pictures and then gave them to I believe the Denver Post, the local newspaper, and that is the outlet that first published these photos.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you still, as we sit here, I'm having some doubt, Like I've seen the pictures, wondering if they could have been doctored where they came from. Who would have done something like this if it's possible. I am being straight with you, doll. When I as I'm sitting here, I am like, ugh, maybe maybe we should hold off, because I have a hard time believing that somebody would walk out.
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Speaker 3: Of the house in that not just somebody.
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Speaker 1: Member of Congress. I'm still struggling with that. Look. We've seen a of offensive outfits and Halloween costumes here and there this, and some people go, oh, I made a mistake or I didn't consider or would have done it differently.
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Speaker 2: She is a third term congress woman from Colorado's fourth district. She knows what she's doing, and she knows the attention she's getting. And how about this if you want to be convinced that this was a choice.
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Speaker 3: She has an official response.
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Speaker 2: At least her office has responded to media requests. ABC News reported this the Denver Post. It's a Halloween costume. Tell our senators to vote for the cr and open the government. They are choosing to let millions of American families suffer end quote.
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Speaker 1: That can't be real.
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Speaker 2: That is her official statement. We sure in response to the Halloween costume controversy, We.
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Speaker 1: Sure that really came from her.
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Speaker 2: Well, I think you still were thinking that for quite some time, until we googled her name and realize that this is just the latest in a string of controversies that has followed her or she, I don't know is created and it's quite remarkable.
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Speaker 1: But given some of the ones we've we've known about in the past, this still I'm having a difficult I know you were. I was for the longest I was not convinced. I kept I was being dismissive of you. Almost you were.
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Speaker 3: I was like babe, this isn't made up.
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Speaker 1: The baby being aied, somebody's fooling you.
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Speaker 2: You actually had me zoom in on the picture to see if you could see if it was photoshopped.
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Speaker 3: That's how much you did not believe that this was real.
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Speaker 1: I just, even given what we have seen in some of the controversies and scandals that even that some of her own party she has rubbed the wrong way with some of these things. Even given all that, I just wrote, that's what's the sign. The sign she had well.
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Speaker 2: Has Mexican word of the day, juicy. Tell me if Juicy Ice coming, that's terrible. I don't one the person who took the pictures reportedly is the one who said it was disgusting, disgusting behavior and people were not laughing. They didn't think it was funny. Obviously it's not. But it is remarkable that a member of Congress would choose that outfit and know she was going to be photographed and pose for photographs, knowing that she represents a district that is fourteen percent Hispanic.
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Speaker 1: It's I don't know how you apologize for that one.
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Speaker 3: She hasn't.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how. It's a costume it's a Halloween costume. There's something. There's got to be a humanity in it all. There's gotta be an ounce of I mean, empathy for your for a human being, no matter what. And I can't imagine that kind of intentional slight to a culture.
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Speaker 3: It is hard to get your head around.
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Speaker 1: But I don't think she thought it was just funny. There's gotta be a reason. There's got to be a constituency. There's got to be something. There's got to be somethingting in somebody she's playing to think this is okay.
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Speaker 2: Well, there were some responses just to get an idea about how people in that community, in the Latino community felt about what she did. The president of the Latino Coalition in Colorado told this to the Denver Post. She should be ashamed of herself. Though I believe she is incapable of any emotion that generates human decency. Her bigotry and ignorance are clearly evident in her chosen apparel this day, and then State Senator Julie Gonzalez, who was also the co chair of the Colorado Democratic Latino Caucus, said she well, she asked Bobert to apologize and said she should know that our culture is not a costume and being bilingual is an.
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Speaker 3: Asset, not a joke. I thought that was really well well put.
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Speaker 1: They have to be fuming, and I would like to, you know, maybe she'll say nothing. I don't know what to explain. I don't know what I need to hear to relax a little bit about what you feel when you see something like this, and you know, I'm always this way and even in this one like to hear something from her. I would like to. I just I don't understand.
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Speaker 2: What's so interesting though, because we actually did a bit of a deep dive on her and to consider where she came from, and she's talked about this publicly, about her story, how she was uprooted from Florida to the state of Colorado, how her family was on welfare, how she did not live an opulent life. She had a tough life, and she talked about going through that. So it's just interesting someone who's had that kind of a upbringing. She actually dropped out of high school because she got pregnant, and she got her ged I believe, just a few years ago before she was elected into office, so she knows what it's like to struggle. She knows what it's like to feel marginalized in some ways. So it's so interesting to me that she can't acknowledge or understand how what she's choosing to do to laugh fat or to make a joke or mockery of is actually incredibly painful.
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Speaker 1: Imagining the difficulty she must have had in her life. I think you almost want to stand up and applaud when you hear that. And to think that woman made it to Congress, raised four boys, made it to Congress and is in a third term. That should be celebrated. Her background that should be highlighted and focused and talked about and looked at. And but why the opportunity she's had to be that? Look, I'm sure, I mean, she's getting elected. They must like her, somebody does, and she's doing her thing, and whatever she's doing is working out there. So who the hell are we to talk or criticize a Halloween costume? But we just mentioned a moment ago. This was not the first of her controversy. She had said some pretty controversial things in the past, and she has directed a lot of her comments toward her own her own fellow members of Congress, including accusing one of carrying a pimp cane and the other one of carrying a suicide bomb. Stay with us, we continue now. I'm starting ropes to get a little convinced that maybe this thing about Lauren Berbert Bobert, Congresswoman Lauren Bobert is is real.
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Speaker 3: That's good to hear.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm coming around. Maybe by the end of this episode I will be on board. But yeah, the outfit she wore dress and Mexican garb, wearing a sombrero. Her date is dressed as an ice agent and a really offensive message hanging around her neck. Rose you look is we haven't necessarily laughed in the first part of this episode. We're gonna be honest. We were looking up some of the stuff she has said and been accused of in the past and her response to it. It's almost just it's jaw dropping, but it makes your giggle, like are you kidding?
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Speaker 2: It's well, you're laughing because you're laughing in absolute horror and you just can't believe what you're reading. And so you were reading article and I was reading an article, and you'd be like what, and it's just it's that it's it's so offensive. Then you realize she has a history of doing this, and sometimes she apologizes and sometimes she doubles down, and it looks like this time she's laughing it off. But she doesn't have any real accountability for some pretty horrific things.
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Speaker 3: She said.
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Speaker 1: Did she ever a bucket? Does she I don't have it up? Does she apologize with the pimp kne She did not.
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Speaker 2: She doubled down. Okay, so we'll start with a double down. This is Representative Al Green.
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Speaker 1: He was.
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Speaker 3: He gave that fiery speech in the halls of Congress, and he had that cane.
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Speaker 1: Oh no, this is what he was interrupting Trump.
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Speaker 2: Oh, this is when President Trump was addressing Congress. He stood up, started yelling at Trump, and eventually he had to be escorted out correc So, Texas.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: Yes, So she was giving an interview shortly thereafter, and she spoke of Green. She said, she said for him to go and shake his pimp cane at President Trump was absolutely imbhorrent.
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Speaker 1: Don't hear that a lot in Congress? She said, They remember of Congress said a pimpkin.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and it was a black member of Congress to be very specific.
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Speaker 3: Are, by the way, yes, Al Green.
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Speaker 1: Pretty black name. I say that because you think about Al Green. There's one guy you think of when you hear Al Green.
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Speaker 3: The singer.
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Speaker 1: Yes, the singer and very smooth.
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Speaker 2: But in fact, when we when we were talking about this and you said his name, I was like, wait, is that the right name?
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Speaker 3: Isn't that the singer? I got really confused. It's funny you point that out.
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Speaker 1: And shaking a Pimpcine? Now she had an opportunity? Did she not to correct? To apologize about this?
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Speaker 3: Correct? So the first time she was asked, she said, I stand by what I said.
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Speaker 1: The first time. There's more than one yes.
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Speaker 2: And then she was she was she was on another show and they asked specifically about what she said, and she said, look, if that gold plated Kane isn't a Pimpcaine, I don't know what is Okay, So that is doubling down.
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Speaker 3: For sure.
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Speaker 1: She tripled. She had two opportunities down.
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Speaker 3: Yes, I stand by what I said.
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Speaker 1: Okay, when you said the last one, that's.
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Speaker 3: Just so well, then you start laughing. It's comical because it's so offensive. You actually don't know what else to do.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the words, should we be that offended? That upset about it. I don't know. No, you don't want your members of Congress hurling insults like that, yes.
00:14:37
Speaker 2: And generalizations and offensive stereotypical.
00:14:41
Speaker 1: Comments and that imagery. We know what that conjures up when you say something like that.
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Speaker 2: Yes, So that was in March of this past year. But before that, there was her beef with ilhan.
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Speaker 1: Omar to say gold plated pimp.
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Speaker 3: She said, gold plated Kane isn't a Pimpcane. I don't know what is.
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Speaker 2: Sorry, Yes, she said that, all right.
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Speaker 3: So with ilhan Omar, she was giving a speech, correct.
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Speaker 1: Bobert, No, she was recalling a story.
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, So she was giving a speech and she had a crowd full of folks and she told this story about her time in Congress. She said, I'm quoting her. So the other night on the House floor was not my first jihad squad moment. I was getting into an elevator with one of my staffers, and he and I were leaving the Capitol. We're going back to my office and we get in the elevator and I see a Capitol police officer running hurriedly.
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Speaker 3: To the elevator.
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Speaker 2: I see fred all over his face and he's reaching the door shutting.
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Speaker 3: I can't open it. What's happening.
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Speaker 2: I looked to my left and there she is Ilhan Omar and I said, well, she doesn't have a backpack.
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Speaker 3: We should be fine. And the crowd laughed.
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Speaker 1: Oh.
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Speaker 2: Yes, she was telling it to a fundraising crowd. It was some group of friendly faces. So yes, she was being comedic. She was holding court, so to speak, telling a story and the folks were laughing.
00:16:10
Speaker 1: And that got support from the crowd. Yes, okay, I didn't know that detail.
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Speaker 2: Yes, and so yeah and then yeah, so she just said and she just went on to then belittle her and say, so we only had one floor to go. And I say, do I say it or do I not? And I look over and I say, look, the Jihad squad decided to show up for work today. She actually said that to her face.
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Speaker 3: And then she.
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Speaker 2: Told the group she was speaking to, don't worry. It's just her staffers on Twitter that talk for her. She's not tough in person.
00:16:40
Speaker 1: And Representative Omar I actually refuted at that door. She said, we never ever got on an elevator together, and this never happened, you know what. A represent of Omar had a good line I'm gonna mess it up a little bit, but this is almost verbatim. She said, it's a shame that Congresswoman Bobert thinks that biggest street, big tree will get you clapped.
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Speaker 3: Yes, I did see that. Yes I did.
00:17:04
Speaker 2: Yes, And we've actually had Representative Omar, we've actually interviewed her. She's been very you know, you can agree with her or disagree with her. Been very level headed. She's not one to continue a fight. Certainly, even if it was pushed on her or put upon her, she handled it very.
00:17:20
Speaker 3: She's a lot of classes.
00:17:21
Speaker 1: She said. They got on the phone after this whole incident, said it went terribly and she said she had to get off the phone because it wasn't productive. She said, you didn't give it an apology. That was her statement, at least represent of Omar. But I know these are tough she had. This is somebody keeps getting elected. And look, some people look at this like people were making too big of a deal out of it. Eh, maybe you can certainly feel that way. I just I felt a certain way and just struggled. I did. It was so great there that I truly.
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Speaker 3: Did not believe you this day and age in fact.
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Speaker 2: I remember the Monday after Halloween, I was thinking to myself, Oh, I didn't read about any Halloween costume mishaps.
00:18:06
Speaker 3: Over the years.
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Speaker 2: Too many people have made too many bad choices appropriating other people's cultures whatever, They offend people in some way, and I hadn't heard of one, and I was like, oh wow. And I remember thinking, this is one of those rare Halloweens where no one put on a stupid Halloween costume that got them in trouble.
00:18:26
Speaker 1: But haven't we seen some ignorance, some oops, some genuine miscalculations and outfits before, and people have had to apologize, And like, I didn't know, we've seen some stuff around Halloween or elsewhere. This was you can't. I can't that you had to put out a chalkboard and write it out there that yeah.
00:18:50
Speaker 2: And there have been enough of the other more subtle problems that people have run into where it feels like this was a choice.
00:18:58
Speaker 1: Again that plenty of people may be listening that go, guys, that's a big deal.
00:19:02
Speaker 3: Costume.
00:19:03
Speaker 1: It's a Halloween costume. What's the big deal? Get over it. We got to shut down. We got bigger problems, sure.
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Speaker 2: I mean, look, I think that that's fine if you're a private citizen, but when you represent a district and you're elected and you're there to represent everybody, that is highly offensive and certainly not inclusive, and that's a kind way of putting her choice.
00:19:26
Speaker 1: There is no way to argue with that, and with that, folks always appreciate you spend some time with us. I'm TJ. Holmes, behalf fingy robot will talk to y'lson.