Oct. 2, 2026
Judge Grants Temporary Restraining Order Against Halle Berry After Ex Accuses Her Of Child Abuse
Apple Podcasts 
Spotify 
Castro 
RSS Feed Halle Berry is being accused of abusing her 12-year-old son Maceo by her ex-husband, actor Olivier Martinez. Martinez was granted a temporary restraining order against the Oscar winning actress and a judge has restricted Berry’s visitation with Maceo. Martinez alleges last week Berry “physically abused our son Maceo, by jumping on him, putting her hands around his neck and choking him.” Martinez is asking for sole custody, while Berry’s attorney fired back with a statement, saying her ex-husband’s claims are “entirely meritless and deliberately misleading.”
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
00:00:02
Speaker 1: Hey there folks, it is Friday, October 2nd, and Oscar winner Halle Berry is being accused of abusing her own son. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Robes. We are, before you even get into who's right, who's wrong, the dynamics and whatnot of the relationships. Robes, before you even get into that, first and foremost, Robes, these headlines are horrible.
00:00:31
Speaker 2: I was just going to say, this is horrific. And I just, it's awful in every way possible. Because if it did happen, clearly that would be.
00:00:46
Speaker 3: Unforgivable. But even if it didn't happen, it's just messy and awful.
00:00:51
Speaker 2: And I just think about this poor 12-year-old boy who's caught in the middle. At the very least, obviously we don't know what did or did not happen. But we do know that this young man boy is in the middle of two warring parents, and it's been that way for almost his entire life.
00:01:07
Speaker 1: Warring publicly. Warring in court. Warring in tabloids. Robes, there's just been nastiness between them for many, many years. A lot of people will remember her ex-husband, Oliver Martinez. Yes, he's an actor as well. Met him on a set of a movie, but Robes, a lot of folks will remember this was a two-year marriage and an eight-year divorce. That's how nasty it was. We were shocked. Wait, she's still married?
00:01:34
Speaker 2: Right?
00:01:35
Speaker 3: Because they split in 2016. Well, it was a long time ago.
00:01:38
Speaker 1: They just settled it, what, two years ago maybe?
00:01:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, their divorce was made final, I believe, in 2024.
00:01:45
Speaker 3: And that's how long they had been fighting. And the fighting continues clearly.
00:01:49
Speaker 1: So the headlines will say that her ex, Oliver Martinez, has asked for, and now, as of this morning's reporting, has been granted... a temporary restraining order after alleging a physical altercation, a physical assault is the way he describes it, of Halle Berry against their 12-year-old son. And this, Robes, just happened. So he was on, I mean, you can argue he was on top of this, alleging this incident happened just last weekend, so September 26th.
00:02:25
Speaker 2: Yes, he says he received a frantic call from his son saying, asking to be picked up from Halle Berry's home, and he claims that his son told him he was physically abused by Halle Berry.
00:02:41
Speaker 3: These are serious allegations.
00:02:44
Speaker 2: He's claiming that Halle jumped on Maceo, put her hands around his neck, and choked him.
00:02:51
Speaker 1: And yes, this is stuff we are getting directly from this restraining order application that was put in that's been reviewed by several outlets now. So we are not paraphrasing what we're giving you now. This is directly from, reportedly directly from, this restraining order. So yes, Rose, that's the main allegation. Now, I don't, what could possibly be happening? Been around her, don't know how physically big, strong a 12-year-old boy is or can be, but still, that's your mama. You're not supposed to choke a kid. But Rose, they describe in here, like, Like he would like a fight almost. Yes. Like there's a physical confrontation and altercation between these two. Rose jumping on top. Rose headlines are one thing. Now you get into the details. Oh, this is Halle Berry. They are saying jumped on top of her child and choked him.
00:03:43
Speaker 2: That is what her ex-husband, Oliver Martinez, is saying in court documents. He went on, this is what the court documents read, that Hallie grabbed, this is a quote, grabbed Maceo by the neck and started choking him while shouting, who's dominant now?
00:03:59
Speaker 1: We continue in this restraining order, the allegations again, quote, there are instances of abuse over the course of the last few years, additional physical attacks against our son, as well as verbal and emotional abuse from petitioner To me. So he was also including himself in some of this, Robes.
00:04:16
Speaker 2: Yes, he claims that Halle Berry, quote, told our son that I'm a white bitch trying to rob a black woman due to child support issues. Ms. Berry then asked our son, how do you feel about that as a black man?
00:04:29
Speaker 1: Okay, so where does that come from, that last one there in particular, Robes? This is a woman, again, it took them eight years to settle this divorce, and a lot of it had to do with money, clearly, but... but came out of that divorce two years ago, $ 8, 000 a month. She is paying to her ex in child support, and they set up some deal, Robes, in which she has to pay him a certain percentage of her salary that she makes over $ 2 million in a year.
00:04:54
Speaker 3: It's like 4-point-something percent.
00:04:56
Speaker 2: It's some strange number that she owes him every time she makes any money over $ 2 million.
00:05:02
Speaker 3: For a two-year marriage. A two-year marriage.
00:05:06
Speaker 1: Eight grand a month. and child support to a kid that spends half of his time with her.
00:05:11
Speaker 2: Right now it's a 50-50 custody arrangement. So, yes, I know that oftentimes some courts, some judges want to create basically an even living situation so that one parent, one residence isn't far superior to the others.
00:05:28
Speaker 3: So they try to even out their living situation. situations.
00:05:32
Speaker 1: So, Rose, you talk about how contentious, and we know how contentious a divorce can get, and your favorite saying, right? You don't know somebody.
00:05:39
Speaker 3: Until you divorce them.
00:05:40
Speaker 1: Yes.
00:05:41
Speaker 3: It's so true.
00:05:51
Speaker 1: So, this back and forth, and that kind of sets up, I guess, Robes, the nastiness, that line there about the child support. Like, Rob, she has spoken about this, and Robes, it's out there. This is a woman, you said a two-year marriage, who is, yes, it's Hollywood. We think she's on top of the world. She's got money all day long. It doesn't matter. Robes, this is a woman who is 60 years old. She's working. She's still working, knowing that she is working to pay him. She's working. So, wow, I'm having a big year this year. I'm making $ 15 million, $ 13 million of.
00:06:23
Speaker 2: That.
00:06:25
Speaker 1: Take 4.3% out, and directly has to just go to your ex that you were married to for two years.
00:06:31
Speaker 3: That's tough.
00:06:32
Speaker 1: Robes, you can only imagine what that feels like in the back and forth, and you can imagine as well. Halle Berry's lawyer came out, Robes, strongly against this stuff that's in this restraining order.
00:06:45
Speaker 2: Yes, so Halle's lawyer put out a statement saying, to say this filing is entirely meritless and deliberately misleading.
00:06:53
Speaker 3: would be an understatement.
00:06:54
Speaker 2: There is voluminous evidence, including numerous judicial rulings, that Oliver Martinez repeatedly violated court orders and interfered with necessary therapeutic and educational interventions to the detriment of his and Halle Berry's minor son, Maceo, misconduct for which Mr.
00:07:14
Speaker 3: Martinez has already been legally sanctioned.
00:07:17
Speaker 1: Now, in that moment... Well, I'll finish because I didn't remember his violent past. And then I was looking, I was like, oh, I forgot about this thing. And so let the statement continue and then we can hit on that. Sorry.
00:07:30
Speaker 3: Sure. The statement continues.
00:07:32
Speaker 2: In a way, today's filing is not entirely unexpected from an individual with a well-documented history of erratic, possessive, and violent behavior. Fortunately, Hallie is used to this kind of outrageous conduct from Mr.
00:07:46
Speaker 3: Martinez.
00:07:47
Speaker 2: And while she is deeply saddened, She will not allow it to deter her from fighting for Maceo's best interest and providing him with the love and support he needs.
00:07:59
Speaker 1: There was a fight between Oliver Martinez and her other ex. The model, what was his name? I have it in here. Aubrey was his last name. That was his last name.
00:08:11
Speaker 3: Gabriel Aubrey.
00:08:13
Speaker 1: There was a fight in which Oliver Martinez went off on Gabriel, and it was a physical fight. And there are pictures of Gabriel's injuries. And I believe he got a restraining order against Oliver Martinez at the time. So that's likely what they are referencing there, that he has had a violent past. But Ropes, what do you do with this? This is a difficult story. These are accusations. This is family. This is divorce. These are kids, a kid that has a birthday coming up in two days from, three days from this recording, October 5th, 13th birthday. The headlines are that your Oscar-winning mama choked you. The headlines are, Robes, and the headlines are what thing? I don't know what the experience is in the house. I don't know what happens and what the dynamics are and what the back and forth is. But this is now, Robes, what do we do with these when they're rolled out in public like this and an accusation of abuse of any kind? How do you combat that or get away from that if it's not true?
00:09:14
Speaker 2: It's almost impossible because there are certain headlines and certain accusations that stain your reputation regardless of their merit. And we don't know what this entailed. And look, they said it was misleading. So obviously something happened. We just don't know what happened. And a judge did order... temporary modified visitation rights for Halle Berry. She has to have, I guess, she gets Mondays and Tuesdays and Saturdays and Sundays for certain hours.
00:09:48
Speaker 1: All day on those days. So if she got four out of seven days, these kids are still with her, or him in particular, eight plus hours out of the day. But again, we talked about this, Robes, a temporary restraint order, there was a pretty decent bar. The judge said, there's enough here that I'm going to just say okay, and then we'll go talk about it later, and they do have a later hearing set up. Robes, and this is a difficult one, and I don't know if we were in a network newsroom, if we would have we might have recused ourself from this story. And it is hard, Robes, and you try to be fair to everybody and all sides in covering this stuff, but we've talked about plenty of times before that Halle Berry is somebody that is personally special to us because she showed up and reached out and was supportive of us at our ugliest and most difficult times when public stuff like this was coming out. And so we've talked about here, Robes. We have a personal connection adoration and appreciation for Halle Berry that goes beyond just appreciating what she has done as an actress.
00:10:51
Speaker 2: Yes, because she went above and beyond and reached out to you and checked in on you because there are just certain people who understand what it's like. And this is another example of having anything going on in your personal life smeared and put out there and anyone can say whatever they want. And the headlines stick, they stay around. That's what people think of whether they're true or not. And she more so than most, knew what that felt like. And so she reached out to you in kindness and support to say, what can I do?
00:11:21
Speaker 1: And Robes, at that time when you and I were in our darkest moments, when headlines were being written about us that we knew were not true, Robes, it meant everything. And I think there was a credibility component to it that, oh, okay, if Halle Berry's actually, she's been through this, been there, done that. She knows exactly what the hell we're going through. And it's just, so we put that in there just as a, well, just full disclosure. This is somebody we, we personally adore and appreciate. And to see whatever this is and how it's going about, we don't know what's right, what's wrong, what's true, what's not, but we just know this sucks.
00:12:04
Speaker 3: It sucks for everyone involved. And most importantly, and I, you know, Hallie knows this. It's It's so awful for her son, Maceo.
00:12:12
Speaker 2: And even for her other daughter. You know, she has a daughter with Gabriel Aubrey, correct?
00:12:18
Speaker 1: We keep wanting to call him Aubrey.
00:12:20
Speaker 2: I do.
00:12:20
Speaker 3: Gabriel Aubrey. But yes, Nala. And she just went to college, I believe we saw.
00:12:25
Speaker 2: And look, I have to say, Hallie has been very respectful of her children's privacy. If you try to find her kids... photos and faces anywhere, you really won't find any. The few that she's posted were from the back of their head. Like she's just been, I think she's even said when they get old enough and they want to decide what they want to do and how they want to put themselves out there, that's for them to decide, not for me. And so I know she had just been posting about her daughter leaving for college and how it's a difficult time. I know I've been going through it. So she's already had that part of her life. Basically, that's a big milestone now to be dealing with your 12 year old.
00:13:04
Speaker 3: Now custody of him is up in the air. All these headlines are going on.
00:13:08
Speaker 2: It's just, it's, there's never a good time for something like this, but this is an especially tough time for her as a parent.
00:13:13
Speaker 1: And anytime Rose, I've, you know, caught up with him. Didn't talk a whole lot, but anytime I would speak to, it was always something with the kids. Yeah. I'm heading to the store, heading to the school. It was, they were such a part of her life all the time in the limited time that, you know, that I had a chance to speak to her, but Rob, she shot me down. She, That was almost the first question I asked her in one of the last interviews I did over at ABC. I was talking about, yes, you hear you, this iconically beautiful woman and da-da-da. She stopped me. She said, why is that? Why is that the first thing you or anybody else on the street? You know what? I'm a great mom. Why am I not known for that? And she started. I get the point she was making. It wasn't a complete beat down. But the point being, I'm known for this other stuff, this Oscar and everything else. And she wanted to be known as a mom.
00:14:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, I take pride in this.
00:14:04
Speaker 1: Yes. And it made sense. But now here we are with all of this. We did hear from her ex, Oliver Martinez, as well, in a statement from his lawyer. We'll let you hear that. We'll also, Robes, I threw it in there. My goodness. Things do change, don't they? These two put out a joint statement when they divorced, Robes, back in 2015. Man, you are not going to believe when you hear it now. It did not age well. Stay here.
00:14:41
Speaker 3: Welcome back, everyone, to Amy and TJ.
00:14:44
Speaker 2: Halle Berry, unfortunately, in the headlines.
00:14:46
Speaker 3: I'm sure you've woken up to see them. She is being accused.
00:14:50
Speaker 2: By her ex-husband, Oliver Martinez, of child abuse, specifically abusing and choking, he claims, their 12-year-old son, Maceo. Halle's lawyer came out swinging, saying this is misleading and certainly meritless, at least this restraining order he's been granted. And it's created temporary restrictions on when and how Halle Berry can be with her son, but his own lawyer released a statement, Oliver Martinez's lawyer, and this is what they had to say. His paramount concern is the health, welfare, and safety of the minor child, hence the action that he took in court by filing the request for domestic violence restraining order.
00:15:34
Speaker 3: The second concern would be for the.
00:15:36
Speaker 2: Mother to get the appropriate help that she needs to address her issues so she can better herself, which would in turn help the minor child moving forward.
00:15:47
Speaker 3: Ouch.
00:15:49
Speaker 1: What are they trying to say there? They're saying she's disturbed, and she's doing something or going through something that makes her a bad mom.
00:15:54
Speaker 2: Yes, and there were allegations they wanted her actually to be monitored for her drinking. The judge did not grant that, but there were some implications there surrounding her alcohol intake.
00:16:06
Speaker 1: Gross, this is... It takes you eight years to get divorced, and it's still not over. Robes, they're still going at it in court.
00:16:14
Speaker 2: I mean, that 12-year-old Maceo, his entire life, what he has known has been his parents fighting. Fighting over money, fighting over him, but just constant and total, just constant.
00:16:29
Speaker 3: Anger and angst. It's tough to be around that.
00:16:32
Speaker 1: I have it right. They had the baby before they got married, or she announced the pregnancy before they got married, right?
00:16:37
Speaker 3: I can't remember the details of that.
00:16:40
Speaker 1: But to your point, Rose, his entire life has just been his parents not together. He's not known a loving home with these two folks. He's only known them to be fighting.
00:16:48
Speaker 2: I was going to say, a lot of kids, like my Annalise, who's 20, she's never known anything. She's never remembered a family with her mother and father together.
00:16:59
Speaker 3: And that's one thing. And a lot of kids have dealt with that.
00:17:01
Speaker 2: But this is just a public, brutal battle that seems to be never ending.
00:17:07
Speaker 3: And he is caught in the middle.
00:17:10
Speaker 1: But Robes, there was something you and I always say. This would have changed everything in our lives if we followed the Hollywood script. Yeah, because there is a script. Yes. For when celebrity folks get divorced. And it just needs to be one of them a celebrity. It doesn't have to be both of them, but especially if both of them are. And there's the standard statement they always put out. Everybody in their mind right now can write it. So-and-so and I, after much prayer, counseling, and conversation, have decided to make the difficult decision to move forward as with a divorce, right?
00:17:50
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:17:51
Speaker 3: With love and respect.
00:17:52
Speaker 1: With love and respect for each other. What's the line? We ask for privacy at this time as we make the adjustment and take care of our children. We won't be making any further decisions.
00:18:01
Speaker 3: We'll be focusing on our co-parenting.
00:18:03
Speaker 2: It all sounds like this wonderful conversation happened where two rational adults just decided they'd be better living separately and everybody's good and there's no problems.
00:18:13
Speaker 1: They all sound good.
00:18:14
Speaker 3: Everything's wonderful.
00:18:15
Speaker 1: And they make you think, wow, this is possible. A non-contentious divorce is possible. It's not.
00:18:21
Speaker 3: It's very rare.
00:18:22
Speaker 1: It's very rare, we should say. But Robes, there's a reason you do that, because you don't want to mess up your money. Because you don't want to have some issue if you end up dating somewhere else or get spotted with someone. You have to make sure that this is an amicable split, and that's what the public thinks, because if they think you were the problem in the relationship that's going to hurt you getting your next movie, it's that thing. I always think, man, if I were to just put that statement out, When I first decided to get divorced in August of 2022, my life would be different. My life, because when somebody found out I was dating Amy Robach, I was like, oh, yeah, he told us a few months ago he was getting divorced. Like, ooh, I wonder if that had anything to do with the divorce. But, oh, well, and you would have moved on. There is no scandal. Whatever thought you had in your head.
00:19:09
Speaker 2: Right. Yep.
00:19:09
Speaker 1: That thing. And this is exactly where I was when I saw their statement from 2015 when they decided to get divorced and to think 2026. Here we are. Like, wow.
00:19:18
Speaker 2: Well, unfortunately, this statement didn't protect them for future problems and future headlines.
00:19:23
Speaker 1: But so it's just where they were at the time. So it's just every line of this is almost. laughable.
00:19:29
Speaker 2: All right. So you actually found the original statement from Oliver and Hallie. It is with a heavy heart that we have come to the decision to divorce. We move forward with love and respect for one another and the shared focus of what is best for our son. We wish each other nothing but happiness and life. And we hope that you respect our, and most importantly, our children's privacy as we go through this difficult period.
00:19:57
Speaker 1: Wow. That's all you have to say. That's well done. Let's go behind the scenes and we can fight to the... Cows come home. But you keep all this stuff out of the public robes. And now I'm sure at that time, that was what they were hoping for. But that was 2015, babe. And it took them until 20 what to.
00:20:16
Speaker 3: Get the 24. That's tough. And we wish each other nothing but happiness in life.
00:20:22
Speaker 1: Tough line. That's a tough line. I just I don't know. We have no idea what's going on behind closed doors. We'd have no idea of their relationship, their past. We don't have any idea of her relationship with her kids. We just don't. We just know our experience with her. And we know that no matter what happened or didn't happen, we have a love and an affection for Halle Berry. And we know she's hurting right now. And we can say it from a personal standpoint, no matter what happened, we are hurting for her. For what is happening in the headlines. And that just sucks.
00:20:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.
00:20:57
Speaker 2: And it's just a reminder that we don't know what goes on. And yes, this is a salacious headline, but there's always more to the story than what you see written in the headline.
00:21:08
Speaker 1: Try to be kind. I know you've seen some stuff already this morning that people are writing. It's just, it's awful. Try to be kind. Everybody's going through something, folks. So I just want to put this one on your radar. As always, we appreciate you spending a little time with us. I'm TJ on behalf of my dear Amy Robach. We'll talk soon.
Speaker 1: Hey there folks, it is Friday, October 2nd, and Oscar winner Halle Berry is being accused of abusing her own son. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Robes. We are, before you even get into who's right, who's wrong, the dynamics and whatnot of the relationships. Robes, before you even get into that, first and foremost, Robes, these headlines are horrible.
00:00:31
Speaker 2: I was just going to say, this is horrific. And I just, it's awful in every way possible. Because if it did happen, clearly that would be.
00:00:46
Speaker 3: Unforgivable. But even if it didn't happen, it's just messy and awful.
00:00:51
Speaker 2: And I just think about this poor 12-year-old boy who's caught in the middle. At the very least, obviously we don't know what did or did not happen. But we do know that this young man boy is in the middle of two warring parents, and it's been that way for almost his entire life.
00:01:07
Speaker 1: Warring publicly. Warring in court. Warring in tabloids. Robes, there's just been nastiness between them for many, many years. A lot of people will remember her ex-husband, Oliver Martinez. Yes, he's an actor as well. Met him on a set of a movie, but Robes, a lot of folks will remember this was a two-year marriage and an eight-year divorce. That's how nasty it was. We were shocked. Wait, she's still married?
00:01:34
Speaker 2: Right?
00:01:35
Speaker 3: Because they split in 2016. Well, it was a long time ago.
00:01:38
Speaker 1: They just settled it, what, two years ago maybe?
00:01:41
Speaker 2: Yeah, their divorce was made final, I believe, in 2024.
00:01:45
Speaker 3: And that's how long they had been fighting. And the fighting continues clearly.
00:01:49
Speaker 1: So the headlines will say that her ex, Oliver Martinez, has asked for, and now, as of this morning's reporting, has been granted... a temporary restraining order after alleging a physical altercation, a physical assault is the way he describes it, of Halle Berry against their 12-year-old son. And this, Robes, just happened. So he was on, I mean, you can argue he was on top of this, alleging this incident happened just last weekend, so September 26th.
00:02:25
Speaker 2: Yes, he says he received a frantic call from his son saying, asking to be picked up from Halle Berry's home, and he claims that his son told him he was physically abused by Halle Berry.
00:02:41
Speaker 3: These are serious allegations.
00:02:44
Speaker 2: He's claiming that Halle jumped on Maceo, put her hands around his neck, and choked him.
00:02:51
Speaker 1: And yes, this is stuff we are getting directly from this restraining order application that was put in that's been reviewed by several outlets now. So we are not paraphrasing what we're giving you now. This is directly from, reportedly directly from, this restraining order. So yes, Rose, that's the main allegation. Now, I don't, what could possibly be happening? Been around her, don't know how physically big, strong a 12-year-old boy is or can be, but still, that's your mama. You're not supposed to choke a kid. But Rose, they describe in here, like, Like he would like a fight almost. Yes. Like there's a physical confrontation and altercation between these two. Rose jumping on top. Rose headlines are one thing. Now you get into the details. Oh, this is Halle Berry. They are saying jumped on top of her child and choked him.
00:03:43
Speaker 2: That is what her ex-husband, Oliver Martinez, is saying in court documents. He went on, this is what the court documents read, that Hallie grabbed, this is a quote, grabbed Maceo by the neck and started choking him while shouting, who's dominant now?
00:03:59
Speaker 1: We continue in this restraining order, the allegations again, quote, there are instances of abuse over the course of the last few years, additional physical attacks against our son, as well as verbal and emotional abuse from petitioner To me. So he was also including himself in some of this, Robes.
00:04:16
Speaker 2: Yes, he claims that Halle Berry, quote, told our son that I'm a white bitch trying to rob a black woman due to child support issues. Ms. Berry then asked our son, how do you feel about that as a black man?
00:04:29
Speaker 1: Okay, so where does that come from, that last one there in particular, Robes? This is a woman, again, it took them eight years to settle this divorce, and a lot of it had to do with money, clearly, but... but came out of that divorce two years ago, $ 8, 000 a month. She is paying to her ex in child support, and they set up some deal, Robes, in which she has to pay him a certain percentage of her salary that she makes over $ 2 million in a year.
00:04:54
Speaker 3: It's like 4-point-something percent.
00:04:56
Speaker 2: It's some strange number that she owes him every time she makes any money over $ 2 million.
00:05:02
Speaker 3: For a two-year marriage. A two-year marriage.
00:05:06
Speaker 1: Eight grand a month. and child support to a kid that spends half of his time with her.
00:05:11
Speaker 2: Right now it's a 50-50 custody arrangement. So, yes, I know that oftentimes some courts, some judges want to create basically an even living situation so that one parent, one residence isn't far superior to the others.
00:05:28
Speaker 3: So they try to even out their living situation. situations.
00:05:32
Speaker 1: So, Rose, you talk about how contentious, and we know how contentious a divorce can get, and your favorite saying, right? You don't know somebody.
00:05:39
Speaker 3: Until you divorce them.
00:05:40
Speaker 1: Yes.
00:05:41
Speaker 3: It's so true.
00:05:51
Speaker 1: So, this back and forth, and that kind of sets up, I guess, Robes, the nastiness, that line there about the child support. Like, Rob, she has spoken about this, and Robes, it's out there. This is a woman, you said a two-year marriage, who is, yes, it's Hollywood. We think she's on top of the world. She's got money all day long. It doesn't matter. Robes, this is a woman who is 60 years old. She's working. She's still working, knowing that she is working to pay him. She's working. So, wow, I'm having a big year this year. I'm making $ 15 million, $ 13 million of.
00:06:23
Speaker 2: That.
00:06:25
Speaker 1: Take 4.3% out, and directly has to just go to your ex that you were married to for two years.
00:06:31
Speaker 3: That's tough.
00:06:32
Speaker 1: Robes, you can only imagine what that feels like in the back and forth, and you can imagine as well. Halle Berry's lawyer came out, Robes, strongly against this stuff that's in this restraining order.
00:06:45
Speaker 2: Yes, so Halle's lawyer put out a statement saying, to say this filing is entirely meritless and deliberately misleading.
00:06:53
Speaker 3: would be an understatement.
00:06:54
Speaker 2: There is voluminous evidence, including numerous judicial rulings, that Oliver Martinez repeatedly violated court orders and interfered with necessary therapeutic and educational interventions to the detriment of his and Halle Berry's minor son, Maceo, misconduct for which Mr.
00:07:14
Speaker 3: Martinez has already been legally sanctioned.
00:07:17
Speaker 1: Now, in that moment... Well, I'll finish because I didn't remember his violent past. And then I was looking, I was like, oh, I forgot about this thing. And so let the statement continue and then we can hit on that. Sorry.
00:07:30
Speaker 3: Sure. The statement continues.
00:07:32
Speaker 2: In a way, today's filing is not entirely unexpected from an individual with a well-documented history of erratic, possessive, and violent behavior. Fortunately, Hallie is used to this kind of outrageous conduct from Mr.
00:07:46
Speaker 3: Martinez.
00:07:47
Speaker 2: And while she is deeply saddened, She will not allow it to deter her from fighting for Maceo's best interest and providing him with the love and support he needs.
00:07:59
Speaker 1: There was a fight between Oliver Martinez and her other ex. The model, what was his name? I have it in here. Aubrey was his last name. That was his last name.
00:08:11
Speaker 3: Gabriel Aubrey.
00:08:13
Speaker 1: There was a fight in which Oliver Martinez went off on Gabriel, and it was a physical fight. And there are pictures of Gabriel's injuries. And I believe he got a restraining order against Oliver Martinez at the time. So that's likely what they are referencing there, that he has had a violent past. But Ropes, what do you do with this? This is a difficult story. These are accusations. This is family. This is divorce. These are kids, a kid that has a birthday coming up in two days from, three days from this recording, October 5th, 13th birthday. The headlines are that your Oscar-winning mama choked you. The headlines are, Robes, and the headlines are what thing? I don't know what the experience is in the house. I don't know what happens and what the dynamics are and what the back and forth is. But this is now, Robes, what do we do with these when they're rolled out in public like this and an accusation of abuse of any kind? How do you combat that or get away from that if it's not true?
00:09:14
Speaker 2: It's almost impossible because there are certain headlines and certain accusations that stain your reputation regardless of their merit. And we don't know what this entailed. And look, they said it was misleading. So obviously something happened. We just don't know what happened. And a judge did order... temporary modified visitation rights for Halle Berry. She has to have, I guess, she gets Mondays and Tuesdays and Saturdays and Sundays for certain hours.
00:09:48
Speaker 1: All day on those days. So if she got four out of seven days, these kids are still with her, or him in particular, eight plus hours out of the day. But again, we talked about this, Robes, a temporary restraint order, there was a pretty decent bar. The judge said, there's enough here that I'm going to just say okay, and then we'll go talk about it later, and they do have a later hearing set up. Robes, and this is a difficult one, and I don't know if we were in a network newsroom, if we would have we might have recused ourself from this story. And it is hard, Robes, and you try to be fair to everybody and all sides in covering this stuff, but we've talked about plenty of times before that Halle Berry is somebody that is personally special to us because she showed up and reached out and was supportive of us at our ugliest and most difficult times when public stuff like this was coming out. And so we've talked about here, Robes. We have a personal connection adoration and appreciation for Halle Berry that goes beyond just appreciating what she has done as an actress.
00:10:51
Speaker 2: Yes, because she went above and beyond and reached out to you and checked in on you because there are just certain people who understand what it's like. And this is another example of having anything going on in your personal life smeared and put out there and anyone can say whatever they want. And the headlines stick, they stay around. That's what people think of whether they're true or not. And she more so than most, knew what that felt like. And so she reached out to you in kindness and support to say, what can I do?
00:11:21
Speaker 1: And Robes, at that time when you and I were in our darkest moments, when headlines were being written about us that we knew were not true, Robes, it meant everything. And I think there was a credibility component to it that, oh, okay, if Halle Berry's actually, she's been through this, been there, done that. She knows exactly what the hell we're going through. And it's just, so we put that in there just as a, well, just full disclosure. This is somebody we, we personally adore and appreciate. And to see whatever this is and how it's going about, we don't know what's right, what's wrong, what's true, what's not, but we just know this sucks.
00:12:04
Speaker 3: It sucks for everyone involved. And most importantly, and I, you know, Hallie knows this. It's It's so awful for her son, Maceo.
00:12:12
Speaker 2: And even for her other daughter. You know, she has a daughter with Gabriel Aubrey, correct?
00:12:18
Speaker 1: We keep wanting to call him Aubrey.
00:12:20
Speaker 2: I do.
00:12:20
Speaker 3: Gabriel Aubrey. But yes, Nala. And she just went to college, I believe we saw.
00:12:25
Speaker 2: And look, I have to say, Hallie has been very respectful of her children's privacy. If you try to find her kids... photos and faces anywhere, you really won't find any. The few that she's posted were from the back of their head. Like she's just been, I think she's even said when they get old enough and they want to decide what they want to do and how they want to put themselves out there, that's for them to decide, not for me. And so I know she had just been posting about her daughter leaving for college and how it's a difficult time. I know I've been going through it. So she's already had that part of her life. Basically, that's a big milestone now to be dealing with your 12 year old.
00:13:04
Speaker 3: Now custody of him is up in the air. All these headlines are going on.
00:13:08
Speaker 2: It's just, it's, there's never a good time for something like this, but this is an especially tough time for her as a parent.
00:13:13
Speaker 1: And anytime Rose, I've, you know, caught up with him. Didn't talk a whole lot, but anytime I would speak to, it was always something with the kids. Yeah. I'm heading to the store, heading to the school. It was, they were such a part of her life all the time in the limited time that, you know, that I had a chance to speak to her, but Rob, she shot me down. She, That was almost the first question I asked her in one of the last interviews I did over at ABC. I was talking about, yes, you hear you, this iconically beautiful woman and da-da-da. She stopped me. She said, why is that? Why is that the first thing you or anybody else on the street? You know what? I'm a great mom. Why am I not known for that? And she started. I get the point she was making. It wasn't a complete beat down. But the point being, I'm known for this other stuff, this Oscar and everything else. And she wanted to be known as a mom.
00:14:02
Speaker 3: Yeah, I take pride in this.
00:14:04
Speaker 1: Yes. And it made sense. But now here we are with all of this. We did hear from her ex, Oliver Martinez, as well, in a statement from his lawyer. We'll let you hear that. We'll also, Robes, I threw it in there. My goodness. Things do change, don't they? These two put out a joint statement when they divorced, Robes, back in 2015. Man, you are not going to believe when you hear it now. It did not age well. Stay here.
00:14:41
Speaker 3: Welcome back, everyone, to Amy and TJ.
00:14:44
Speaker 2: Halle Berry, unfortunately, in the headlines.
00:14:46
Speaker 3: I'm sure you've woken up to see them. She is being accused.
00:14:50
Speaker 2: By her ex-husband, Oliver Martinez, of child abuse, specifically abusing and choking, he claims, their 12-year-old son, Maceo. Halle's lawyer came out swinging, saying this is misleading and certainly meritless, at least this restraining order he's been granted. And it's created temporary restrictions on when and how Halle Berry can be with her son, but his own lawyer released a statement, Oliver Martinez's lawyer, and this is what they had to say. His paramount concern is the health, welfare, and safety of the minor child, hence the action that he took in court by filing the request for domestic violence restraining order.
00:15:34
Speaker 3: The second concern would be for the.
00:15:36
Speaker 2: Mother to get the appropriate help that she needs to address her issues so she can better herself, which would in turn help the minor child moving forward.
00:15:47
Speaker 3: Ouch.
00:15:49
Speaker 1: What are they trying to say there? They're saying she's disturbed, and she's doing something or going through something that makes her a bad mom.
00:15:54
Speaker 2: Yes, and there were allegations they wanted her actually to be monitored for her drinking. The judge did not grant that, but there were some implications there surrounding her alcohol intake.
00:16:06
Speaker 1: Gross, this is... It takes you eight years to get divorced, and it's still not over. Robes, they're still going at it in court.
00:16:14
Speaker 2: I mean, that 12-year-old Maceo, his entire life, what he has known has been his parents fighting. Fighting over money, fighting over him, but just constant and total, just constant.
00:16:29
Speaker 3: Anger and angst. It's tough to be around that.
00:16:32
Speaker 1: I have it right. They had the baby before they got married, or she announced the pregnancy before they got married, right?
00:16:37
Speaker 3: I can't remember the details of that.
00:16:40
Speaker 1: But to your point, Rose, his entire life has just been his parents not together. He's not known a loving home with these two folks. He's only known them to be fighting.
00:16:48
Speaker 2: I was going to say, a lot of kids, like my Annalise, who's 20, she's never known anything. She's never remembered a family with her mother and father together.
00:16:59
Speaker 3: And that's one thing. And a lot of kids have dealt with that.
00:17:01
Speaker 2: But this is just a public, brutal battle that seems to be never ending.
00:17:07
Speaker 3: And he is caught in the middle.
00:17:10
Speaker 1: But Robes, there was something you and I always say. This would have changed everything in our lives if we followed the Hollywood script. Yeah, because there is a script. Yes. For when celebrity folks get divorced. And it just needs to be one of them a celebrity. It doesn't have to be both of them, but especially if both of them are. And there's the standard statement they always put out. Everybody in their mind right now can write it. So-and-so and I, after much prayer, counseling, and conversation, have decided to make the difficult decision to move forward as with a divorce, right?
00:17:50
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:17:51
Speaker 3: With love and respect.
00:17:52
Speaker 1: With love and respect for each other. What's the line? We ask for privacy at this time as we make the adjustment and take care of our children. We won't be making any further decisions.
00:18:01
Speaker 3: We'll be focusing on our co-parenting.
00:18:03
Speaker 2: It all sounds like this wonderful conversation happened where two rational adults just decided they'd be better living separately and everybody's good and there's no problems.
00:18:13
Speaker 1: They all sound good.
00:18:14
Speaker 3: Everything's wonderful.
00:18:15
Speaker 1: And they make you think, wow, this is possible. A non-contentious divorce is possible. It's not.
00:18:21
Speaker 3: It's very rare.
00:18:22
Speaker 1: It's very rare, we should say. But Robes, there's a reason you do that, because you don't want to mess up your money. Because you don't want to have some issue if you end up dating somewhere else or get spotted with someone. You have to make sure that this is an amicable split, and that's what the public thinks, because if they think you were the problem in the relationship that's going to hurt you getting your next movie, it's that thing. I always think, man, if I were to just put that statement out, When I first decided to get divorced in August of 2022, my life would be different. My life, because when somebody found out I was dating Amy Robach, I was like, oh, yeah, he told us a few months ago he was getting divorced. Like, ooh, I wonder if that had anything to do with the divorce. But, oh, well, and you would have moved on. There is no scandal. Whatever thought you had in your head.
00:19:09
Speaker 2: Right. Yep.
00:19:09
Speaker 1: That thing. And this is exactly where I was when I saw their statement from 2015 when they decided to get divorced and to think 2026. Here we are. Like, wow.
00:19:18
Speaker 2: Well, unfortunately, this statement didn't protect them for future problems and future headlines.
00:19:23
Speaker 1: But so it's just where they were at the time. So it's just every line of this is almost. laughable.
00:19:29
Speaker 2: All right. So you actually found the original statement from Oliver and Hallie. It is with a heavy heart that we have come to the decision to divorce. We move forward with love and respect for one another and the shared focus of what is best for our son. We wish each other nothing but happiness and life. And we hope that you respect our, and most importantly, our children's privacy as we go through this difficult period.
00:19:57
Speaker 1: Wow. That's all you have to say. That's well done. Let's go behind the scenes and we can fight to the... Cows come home. But you keep all this stuff out of the public robes. And now I'm sure at that time, that was what they were hoping for. But that was 2015, babe. And it took them until 20 what to.
00:20:16
Speaker 3: Get the 24. That's tough. And we wish each other nothing but happiness in life.
00:20:22
Speaker 1: Tough line. That's a tough line. I just I don't know. We have no idea what's going on behind closed doors. We'd have no idea of their relationship, their past. We don't have any idea of her relationship with her kids. We just don't. We just know our experience with her. And we know that no matter what happened or didn't happen, we have a love and an affection for Halle Berry. And we know she's hurting right now. And we can say it from a personal standpoint, no matter what happened, we are hurting for her. For what is happening in the headlines. And that just sucks.
00:20:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is.
00:20:57
Speaker 2: And it's just a reminder that we don't know what goes on. And yes, this is a salacious headline, but there's always more to the story than what you see written in the headline.
00:21:08
Speaker 1: Try to be kind. I know you've seen some stuff already this morning that people are writing. It's just, it's awful. Try to be kind. Everybody's going through something, folks. So I just want to put this one on your radar. As always, we appreciate you spending a little time with us. I'm TJ on behalf of my dear Amy Robach. We'll talk soon.