Nov. 17, 2025

Jail Time For Man Who Rushed Ariana Grande, But Is 9 Days Enough?

Jail Time For Man Who Rushed Ariana Grande, But Is 9 Days Enough?

A Singapore judge threw 26-year-old Johnson Wen behind bars for rushing Ariana Grande in a social media stunt while she was promoting her new “Wicked” movie. Her co-star Cynthia Erivo heroically rushed to her aid, as Grande looked terrified watching Wen approach her and put his arm around her. This is a woman who knows all too well what terror looks and feels like after her concert was bombed in 2017, killing 22 people. Does Wen’s punishment fit his crime, and is it enough to deter him from doing it again? This was not his first stunt and many believe this will just lead to more.

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00:00:02
Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Monday, November the seventeenth, and the man who jumped the barricade and rushed Ariana Grande and her movie star co stars, well, he has now been sentenced to nine days in jail. Question is is that enough? With that? Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Robes. This was a scary scene. Nobody got hurt, and by all accounts, he didn't mean anybody harm, but this video went everywhere and this was terrifying.

00:00:34
Speaker 2: It was especially in this day and age. You don't know what somebody has in their hands. You don't know if it's meant to just be a prank on social media or if someone means you harm. And clearly, when you watch this video, Ariana Grande's face tells you everything you need to know. She is scared to death and she has reason to be scared. She has lived through one of the worst terror attacks I think any artist can imagine, having lived through at her concert in Manchester stuff for years ago. Twenty seventeen, twenty two people died with the terror attack at her concert.

00:01:08
Speaker 1: She lives with that.

00:01:10
Speaker 2: She probably, I mean, she's spoken about her PTSD from that, so can you imagine now already being afraid of being out in public and having this happened to you on the red carpet.

00:01:20
Speaker 1: So always, so this was not a consideration of this young man. And I say young man, he is twenty six years old. He did go to and he did have a mini trial, if you will. She showed up in court and he did plead guilty to being a public nuisance essentially, and he was sent us to nine days in jail. Now, the young man did tell the judge, according to reports there, that he wouldn't do this again. Judging on his history, it doesn't seem like Robes that would be the case, because he has as terrifying as this moment we described might have been for Ariana Grande. What we're talking about here is a young man who thinks this is fun, funny, and has made a sport and a social media following from quite literally rushing celebrities in unsuspecting moments they're expecting to be safe on stage on a red carpet. And he's rushed the stage or the red carpet on several occasions.

00:02:17
Speaker 2: And then gleefully posts it online. In fact, you can see him at the end of this video clapping and celebrating that he was able to get actually to touch Ariana Grande. He is celebrating what he just did and clearly then posted online to then hopefully get hearts and likes and comments. But actually the comments I was reading several people are extremely upset with him after this one.

00:02:42
Speaker 1: This is moronic and it's I don't know how to be supportive, right, I'm always you know me Rove. I want to hear both sides. I want to hear from someone else. I just don't imagine where this could ever be something anyone could explain or anyone in the wider population could endorse what he's doing. His name, I'll give his name. I won't give his Instagram handles, but his name is Johnson. Excuse me Johnson when he's a twenty six year old Australian and he does operate this Instagram handle and where we have seen at least Katy Perry, he has posted the weekend chain smokers he has gotten on their stages robes during these concerts. I am a little surprised at some of the reactions of security. I wonder what they are legally able to do. But in the case of the red carpet. This one was in Singapore. This was last Thursday premiere of Wicket for Good, the second installment of the Wicked movies that are coming out. I was shocked at how kid glovey they were with him.

00:03:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's almost because he wasn't some big, imposing, scary person that they almost treated it like a silly child like prank.

00:03:55
Speaker 1: A fan kid.

00:03:56
Speaker 2: Okay, he doesn't appear to be menacing, doesn't have he's not large in stature, and so yes, it might they might have reacted in a way to his physical presence, which isn't that intimidating.

00:04:11
Speaker 1: And you and I talked about this once we saw the video from what he did in Singapore with Ariana Grande and her co stars. When I go back and we saw the videos of him jumping on stage with Katy Perry or the weekend. The weekend, especially the security there was the same. I was surprised. Look, we've seen like football games and whatnot, there is a streak or somebody runs out. We've seen security dump the hell like give those guys a good jolt. This guy gets none of that.

00:04:40
Speaker 2: It's bizarre to me. Look, the only thing that maybe we can even imagine what it is like, or what it perhaps should be like with security. When you and I were at Good Morning America, we would often go out in the commercial breaks and greet the crowd. Our security guys were right next to us, and we're always helpful in making sure nobody got too close or jumped over the barricade.

00:05:03
Speaker 1: In fact, I never had.

00:05:05
Speaker 2: A scary moment once, and we were out there quite a bit. And you're in the middle of Times Square, so anything can happen any and there are plenty of people out there who have been up all night and on whatever, who knows what. So maybe our guys were laser focused and not just guys gals. We had Annie as well, Yes, but they I was always so impressed. I always felt safe going out there, knowing anything could happen.

00:05:28
Speaker 1: You make it okay now that I didn't think about what you're saying, But now it seems even more egregious what I'm saying, and I'm desperate not to criticized security. I don't know what they go through and what their rules are. I mean, for the most part of Ariana Grande and Cast Wicked IWO is coming out, you assume most are teenagers, young adults, or you don't assume anybody's there to do harm. Is that in the back of their minds when this happens. I don't know, but Cynthia Arrivo should not be the primary defender of Ariana Grande. Absolutely, this guy ran from a distance. You had time to see him coming, yes, did you not without a doubt. And it still took a beat. It took a moment before Cynthia or Revo was no longer the primary defender of Ariana Grande. We applaud Cynthia without criticizing her. I've just it feels so bizarre and uncomfortable with My question here is so what level of response is okay from a security guard in this situation if you would have seen I mean deadly force, how can you bloody him? Can you just restrain him? What are they allowed to do? Because I argue it was not.

00:06:44
Speaker 2: Enough exactly, So I would first of all, I would say the job of security is to anticipate this sort of thing and stop it before there's contact. Period. That clearly did not happen, and thank god it was a prank. Thank god it was a joke and for fun. If he had had had any weapon in his hand, this would be a very different podcast that we'd be having.

00:07:04
Speaker 1: Right, it was a successful attack. If he wanted to do harm to any star of that movie, if he had, God forbid, if he had a gun, he had a knife, he would have one.

00:07:15
Speaker 2: Hund And like you said, there was a runway like he had to run. There was time for them. They were not looking in that direction. There was three or four of them in the background and they were all looking to the side. Nobody was looking ahead. Obviously, that's a clear problem that they're going to have to fix up. And my god, I hope they're having a mortem Monday morning quarterbacking session where if I'm Ariana Grande, I'm having serious talks. Because also someone who's also been involved in one of the largest terror attacks ever, you'd think there'd even be more sensitivity to the fact that she is does have a fear of public spaces, she does suffer from PTSD, with what she's been through, that there'd be an extra eye or an extra level of concern or care. But in terms did you asked what I think? I don't know what the legal response is or what you can or cannot do, but I would imagine if somebody is touching my client, who I am being paid to protect from being touched and harmed or in any way impeded, I think you could take that dude down to the ground period. You don't know what his intentions are.

00:08:22
Speaker 1: You know, I'm getting it mixed up now because this guy, you know what, I think I got it right. He rushed this premiere twice. I think he was only caught, right, He was only caught after the second incident, the one not involving Ariana Grande. So after he did this, he some kind of way ended up still free running around and was only then detained after the second incident.

00:08:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I have the question, if you don't look menacing, if you look harmless, if you look innocent, if you look childlike, if you don't, do you then get a different level of once overs. And probably he wasn't considered or didn't appear to be a threat, and so therefore he wasn't regarded as one.

00:09:04
Speaker 1: I am. Look, we saw this and it went viral when we talk about this, and I think a lot of folks if you don't remember, and I think it's easy to possibly sometime be dismissive if you're not, if you don't immediately remember what happened to this young lady and what happened to Ariana Grande was I say what happened to her in that there are plenty of people at that concert in Manchester who were traumatized by what happened. There were families that were forever changed, twenty two people dead there. But she was the one that brought those people together, like there was a responsibility, you know, she felt for that, and she yes talked about all the therapy, all the things she's had to deal with, all the posts. I mean, she credits some people with saving her life and getting her in therapy. That young lady just suffered at the hands of somebody who want on it nothing but an Instagram post. That is disgusting, that part of it. And I know maybe he doesn't even realize what he did to her, but he did something to her that is egregious already, but given her history, it's especially unkind.

00:10:16
Speaker 2: Yeah. Poor And look, we've had the pleasure of meeting her, and we love her brother, Frankie, who's been amazing and just a huge friend of ours. But this is a sweet young woman. She really is She's a sweet young woman. She doesn't deserve this. And I actually hated the caption he put on his video. It just was so tone deaf. Dear Ariana Grande, thank you for letting me jump on the yellow carpet with you. She did not let him, and that's patronizing to thank her for something she would never have condoned.

00:10:51
Speaker 1: Obviously she she did and didn't know who this guy was at all. But for whatever reason, he thinks that is cheeky. It's cheeking us the way he's gone about in his posts, and maybe he's giving the impression or trying to give the impression to follow potential followers that these artists did welcome him and did allow him to come up. But that's not the case. But he, for whatever reason, likes to say thank you Katie Perry for allowing me. Thank you changed smokers for a long and he thinks that's funny.

00:11:21
Speaker 2: Do I have this right? Is this the first time he's actually been arrested? Is this the first time he's actually been held accountable? Is this the first time he's actually suffered any consequence for what he did?

00:11:34
Speaker 1: Only one we've seen reported so far? Yes, what should that punishment be Stay here, folks, we're going to try to answer that question. Nine days okay, fine, sure, but maybe you could argue nobody got hurt, it was a prank, it should be less. Or you could argue he just traumatized Ariana Grande all over again. Nine days ain't gonna cut it. Stay here, all right, folks, We continue now, nine days is enough? Is that enough? Nine days robes for a quote unquote harmless prank? I say harmless in that no harm was done, in that nobody was hurt, nobody was injured there with, nobody died, there was no attack, somebody just doing something silly. This guy jumps the barricade, excitedly, going towards the stars, movie stars, what's the big deal? Rope? So he gets nine days, and a lot of people would look at that, and we're pressured that he needs to get something. So nine days. How's that sit with you?

00:12:46
Speaker 2: So here's what I think, given all that we know about him, his past and certainly Ariana Grande's past, I think it should have been more. But I do appreciate the fact that at least he got something. I do think that if he suffers no consequences as he has up until this. Now he's just gonna up until now. He's going to just keep on doing this. He's not going to acknowledge, he's not going to be forced to acknowledge that there is harm in what he's doing. And there is the potential for actual danger and violence to ensue because of what he's doing, because you can catch somebody off guard, you can scare a star or a security guard or a star's co star into doing something violent. There is no place for this, there's no space for this. This isn't funny. And I do appreciate the judge what the judge said to this young man. Judge Go said that he wanted to send a signal not just to him, not just to when, but to like minded individuals that we will not condone any act that undermines the reputation of Singapore as a safe country. I appreciate the fact that that was top of his mind, and he said, you should be mindful that there are always consequences for one's actions.

00:13:57
Speaker 1: He traumatizes girl, I mean, when you stop, take us longer, obviously remember. But maybe he didn't remember, and maybe he wouldn't have cared. But that's horrific what he did to the young lady, and we could see it on her face what happened. And again Cynthia or Revo made this story. I guess this is another you know, always looking for a silver lining, and we've said for the past few days, man, everybody should get you a friend. Make sure you got a friend like Cynthia or Rivo, who did not hesitate to just react, to respond and quite frankly, not knowing what was there. She was putting herself in danger, not knowing what was happening. So we do applaud that, and look applaud Singapore for what they did make an example. There's already reports out there. This kid has already said he plans to keep doing this no matter what does happen. I probably would believe that. We'll see if he gets charged with anything down the road, But I don't know the benefit the upside. What it is. He doesn't have that many followers. He doesn't so it's not like this is a huge money making adventure.

00:14:53
Speaker 2: I was surprised I did, and actually I was impressed. I loved this about Ariana Grande fans. I'm assuming people I'm sure have checked out his Instagram page. It doesn't take that long, it's not that hard to find it. But I was surprised and how few followers he had, given the attention this has gotten, how few likes he's gotten on the post, given the attention this has received, And that just speaks volumes to the fact that I get it. Her followers, her fans, people who love her and don't like what he did. They know their best way of impacting him, or having an impact in general is to ignore him, to not follow him, to not like And even the people who had did put comments, they were basically things like, shame on you, how dare you this poor girl? Leave people alone? And if it's true that he is already acknowledged, because he's in jail right now as we're recording this, still nine days, he's in the middle of his nine day sentence. But he sat there on this video conference call with this judge and said, I will not do this again. You know your honor, and this will be the last time. If he goes and does it again, I certainly hope. I certainly hope wherever he does it, wherever, whatever country he's in, I hope they throw the book at him like and I hope he never does again. I hope he's learned his lesson.

00:16:03
Speaker 1: What can you do? I think how big of a new Whatever the charge is in the US, what would it be right harassment?

00:16:10
Speaker 2: You could say attempted assault or assault even I'm not sure exactly, but I'm sure there are ways there could be. There could be some sort of charge that would keep him behind bars longer.

00:16:20
Speaker 1: I would have been.

00:16:21
Speaker 2: It would have been so nice had we heard from him in that hearing saying I'm sorry, I deeply apologize for what I did.

00:16:27
Speaker 1: I get it is what nat I would like to know that he gets what he did. I know who knows how this guy is built, and even negative attention. Some people appreciate as long as they're getting attention. I don't know who he is, how he's built, and why he does this, But this is what he did to somebody. It went beyond a prank, a joke or even scaring someone. This is traumatizing for this particular individual. That's tough. But applaud Singapore for what they did. We'll keep an eye on this and see, uh, I guess you got what eight days left? We'll check my in a week and a half and see where he's shown up. But folks, as always appreciate you spending some time here with us. TJ. Holmes On behalf of my dear and me Robock. We'll talk to you ell soon