Sept. 18, 2025
Is ABC’s “The View” Next? Trump Escalates His War On Network Television Following Kimmel Suspension
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RSS Feed It’s been a fast moving day of headlines following ABC’s decision to suspend Jimmy Kimmel Live indefinitely after remarks Kimmel made this week in the wake of the Charlie Kirk assassination. The FCC Chair suggested ABC’s “The View” should be scrutinized next as President Trump says he thinks broadcast networks are 97 percent against him, so he thinks “maybe their license should be taken away.”
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Speaker 1: Hey, there are folks. It is Thursday, September eighteenth, and will the view even make it to the morning. Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. What are your odds now? The FCC chairman spoke one day about going after Kimmel. The next day Kimmel was off the air. Today, Carr is talking about the View.
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Speaker 2: How long you give them?
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Speaker 3: Well, he's talking about whether or not they are a bona fide news program and whether or not that allows them this exemption of not giving equal time to political candidates.
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Speaker 1: What do you give them? What do you give them?
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Speaker 3: Well?
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Speaker 1: The odds you is going to have a problem in the next few days. What would you think based on what we have?
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Speaker 3: Honestly fifty fifty at this point, fifty to fifty. I think there's a chance that.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: It's hard to say, you know what, We're an uncharted territory. I've in my lifetime, and I know we talked earlier today about how there is history for what we're seeing, and it wasn't in my lifetime. It wasn't anything I experienced. I think Nixon might have been the last were that era, But we have been in an era where, yes, the press has been free. We haven't feared repercussions, we haven't been under the microscope. And so now we are, and now we are at odds, and some might even say at war with this administration.
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Speaker 2: So I don't know, all bets are off, all right.
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Speaker 1: So this has been another fast moving day and early evening of development. We didn't necessarily plan on hopping on again and talking about this, but a lot has happened, including yes that Brendan Carr, the FCC chairman, the one who spoke about Kimmel maybe needing to be held accountable, and then the next day Kimmel was taken off the air. While he is speaking now about the view, he spoke today on another podcast his words, he doesn't believe that Kimmel is the last shoe to drop, and then he suggested that they might be going after or should look into the view. We'll give you his exact quote in here in a second. Also an update the latest Kimmel ABC reportedly meeting tonight. Bloomberg is reporting that they are going to be meeting tonight to discuss the future of Kimmel at ABC and of his program, and also CNN is reporting tonight's sources telling them that yes, ABC wants him back. Robes we were there a long time. He is highly regarded at that.
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Speaker 3: Network, without a doubt, and he is, I would say, their biggest star. We talked about this earlier because he's not just his late night comedy show. He is the host of the Oscars. He's their go to when it comes to anything big entertainment. He's the name, he's the draw. He's an incredible host, he's an incredible talent and there's no one quite like him. He can do it all. He can talk politics, he can talk funny, he can lead.
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Speaker 2: He is their go to guy.
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Speaker 1: And he's great. He does it with a he has a charm to him and every man, but he's self deprecating. He just has a char always liked the guy. We don't always like to television, but obviously he's a talented guy. He's off the air right now. We will see what happens, and a lot of folks immediately started thinking about, Okay, what's next. Who are they going to go after next. Brendan Carr on a podcast today and we will give you his quotes now, but he is making a point that maybe maybe maybe they should take a look at the View. Now, everybody at this point knows what this show is. Daytime talk show founded by Barbara Walters. Daytime Talk still considered a news program. But yes, they give their takes, their hot takes, and they have plenty of guests that run the gamut. Well, Brendan Carr said this today, he's about the View.
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Speaker 3: Yes, Carr said, when you look at these other TV shows, What's interesting is the FCC does have rule called the equal Opportunity rule, but there's an exception to that rule called the bonafide news exception, which means if you're a bonafide news program, you don't have to abide by the equal opportunity rule. And over the years, the FCC has developed a body of case law on that and has suggested that most of these late night shows other than SNL are bonafide news programs, And potentially, I would assume you can make the argument that The View is a bonafide news show, but I'm not so sure about that, and I think it's worthwhile to have the FCC look into whether The View and some of the programs that you have still qualified as bonafide news programs and therefore exempt from the equal opportunity regime that Congress has put in place.
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Speaker 1: He's put it out there, just like he did with Kimmel. He kind of just it was a subtle, not a subtle threat. It was a threat, but it wasn't a it wasn't fire and fury in your face. Just you know, make a suggestion, Well, maybe this is what they should do.
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Speaker 3: If you think about it. When he talked about Kimmel, he said, you know.
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Speaker 2: They can make it easy for us, or they can make it hard for us.
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Speaker 3: So he was kind of casual about that as well, casual confidence, which was a little frightening because it was almost as if in that moment he did know the power of his words, and he knew he didn't have to throw a lot of weight to them, He didn't have to throw a lot of fury or fire to them, because he knew that what he was saying was being listened to.
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Speaker 1: Okay, and now, but the bigger I guess the most terrifying thing you could hear if you are in broadcast television is someone saying they might take your broadcast license away. This is the ultimate nuclear option. And so robes, there are a lot of different and difficult pathways to actually take a license that would be caught up in courts for years, and the whole process is just complicated. But to even hear the threat of it. I think many people think that nobody's willing to call Donald Trump's bluff when it comes to something that serious.
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Speaker 2: But why would they?
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Speaker 3: Because Donald Trump has followed through on every threat he's made, whether it be to Harvard or to China, regarding tariffs.
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Speaker 1: To New York Times, the New York.
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Speaker 3: Times, to the Wall Street Journal, his old pal Roger Ayles. I mean, this is someone who follows through. So when he threatened something, you better believe he's going to do it. So, yes, Trump has threatened taking licenses from network television broadcast companies. In fact, it will go ahead and give you his quote.
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Speaker 1: And why the why why would he do so? He said this aboard Air Force one, and I quote, I have read someplace that the networks were ninety seven against me again, ninety seven percent negative, and yet I won and easily all seven swing states. They give me only bad publicity. I mean, they're getting a license. I would think maybe their license should be taken away. Now again that was That's another one. Of those very casual in conversation dropping a bomb. The idea he just said out loud. They're saying negative stuff about me. I'm getting bad press. Maybe their license should be taken away. That's the most terrifying thing I have heard a public official say in all the time I have been in this business.
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Speaker 3: I've never heard anything like that in my life and certainly not in my career.
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Speaker 2: And I must say it is incredibly alarming.
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Speaker 3: And it wasn't just Trump who said it, because Carr actually or mentioned what Trump said earlier, because the President said the decision would ultimately be up to Brendan Carr.
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Speaker 2: That's what he said at the.
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Speaker 3: End of that, right, So he's putting it in the FCC chairman's hands. So when you have Car regarding that or talking about that, he says, when you have a network and you have evening shows and all they do is hit Trump, that's all they do. If you go back, I guess they haven't had a conservative on in years.
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Speaker 2: Or something somebody said.
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Speaker 3: So they are seemingly tag teaming each other with these public statements talking about potentially taking away licenses from networks. Yeah, that is incredibly scary. That is unprecedented in our lifetime, again.
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Speaker 1: Being they are actually saying out loud that the reason is because you're saying bad stuff about me. I don't like your coverage, I don't like you, I don't like what you're saying. I am going to take your license away. That obviously is not legal, but they're making a determination of what qualifies as behavior or speech that violates FCC rules. They are determining for themselves what it is. So, yes, this is a get called up forever in courts. But the point right now is it seems that a lot of networks and a lot of folks in our industry are bowing to the pressure.
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Speaker 3: Correct And so when he's now calling out these late night talk shows, calling out the view and saying they're not potentially bonafide news networks, and so they have violated basically the equal opportunity law by having the content they've had. He went on to say this specifically Trump did He said, if you go back, I guess they haven't had a conservative on in years. Right, So when you go back to that statement that he said, that is in that is exactly in the line of thinking of hey, we can take away their license because they violated this law because they're not actually bonifid.
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Speaker 2: We're seeing them actually lay out.
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Speaker 3: Their legal plan if they so choose to go after the licenses.
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Speaker 1: And something we want to share with you when we come back. Stay here, because there is one particular quote, of course, that's been out there that Jimmy Kimmel said that got him in all of this trouble. But it wasn't just what he said that night. It wasn't just that quote. He did something also the next night that really got the ball rolling. All right, we continue now here on Amy and TJ with Jimmy Kimmel. You know what's gone down some new developments. President Trump is threatened to take licenses away from other networks who don't give him favorable coverage. The FCC chair is calling on them to possibly take a look at the view. So a lot of fast moving developments today. I did want to get at what Jimmy Kimmel actually said Robes his original comment. That's getting a lot of attention. And you know what before I give that, let's be fair the day of or was it the day after Jimmy Kimmel's comments about Charlie Kirk. He did it on Instagram after the shooting, and this was not I haven't seen it, actually reported a whole lot. But still it should be noted that he did have kind words for the Kirk family at that time.
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Speaker 3: That's right, and we referenced it, but we actually have the verbatim now, so I think it's important for you all to listen to what he said after the shooting on Instagram publicly and in writing, Kimmel wrote this, Instead of the angry finger pointing, can we just for one day agree that it is horrible and monstrous to shoot another human on behalf of my family. We send love to the Kirks and to all the children, parents and innocence who fall victim to senseless gun violence.
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Speaker 1: That was correct, That was well done, well said, and appropriate. Completely agree, right, So we does that after the shooting. Now we go back to Monday. This was the night that got him, for the most part, in trouble, and the quote that got him in trouble was this one. We hit some new lows over the weekend with the Maga gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Cook as anything other than one of them, and doing everything they can to score political points from it. Now, that's the one that's getting a lot of attention. And okay, maybe from a political standpoint, but there is more to what he said that night that robes I felt just from a human standpoint, even if it was a joke. I know he's a comedian, but it made me a little more uncomfortable.
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Speaker 3: It was interesting because at this point on Tuesday night, he knew he was facing some heat. He knew he was getting criticism, he knew he was getting backlash from the comments that he made on Monday. So instead of backing off a little or even apologizing, he doubled down and went for it.
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Speaker 2: Truly. So this is what he said on Tuesday.
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Speaker 1: No, this was continuation of Monday. This was Monday. It just didn't get a lot of attention, got it. So he said something right after that I found to be more insensitive.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I found it to be.
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Speaker 1: As a human being. That was that's tough. I don't know. They're comedians and they make all kinds of fun. But this was the rest of what he said immediately after that initial quote that got him. That's trouble. He said this, and I thought this part really did stink.
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Speaker 3: There was a clip that rolled of Trump being asked how he's doing after the murder of his friend, and Trump replies, I think very good. And by the way, and there's noise behind him when he's talking, right there where you see all the trucks. They just started construction of the new ballroom for the White House. So Jimmy Kimmel comes back after hearing that clip and says he's at the fourth stage of grief construction. And he went on to say, this is not how an adult grieves the murder of someone he called a friend. This is how a four year old warns a goldfish.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I thought that was tough.
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Speaker 2: That was tough. That was harsh, harsh for sure.
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Speaker 1: As I know, comedians do their thing, and the.
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Speaker 3: Timing is important, not just comedic timing, but actually waiting a beat for someone to actually put someone in the ground, and like he hasn't even had his funeral yet, and you know.
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Speaker 1: And when I actually saw the President respond that way, my first thought was he wanted to avoid the question, avoid the emotion. He wanted to change the subject immediately.
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Speaker 2: And that's understandable.
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Speaker 1: Yes, these folks are now this is something I give him credit. I think genuinely they are hurting, and they were very close to this young man. I can imagine having somebody gunned down like that. That's you're that close to.
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Speaker 2: So I do like it's interesting.
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Speaker 3: I'm looking right where we are at Kimmel's Instagram post that we just read aloud, and what he said just a matter of days later flies in the face of his Instagram post. It negates it. It doesn't feel heartfelt now because I'm looking what he joked about it.
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Speaker 2: I understand it. I understand it's comedy.
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Speaker 3: I get it, and they go places that most people would never dare. But it makes his Instagram post feel insincere. I'm not saying it isn't, but it just it's hard to have both of those things be true.
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Speaker 2: I know they can be, but I get it.
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Speaker 1: It's uncomfortable. That's that's difficult to give everybody that, I mean, the guy that he goes after pretty harshly every single night. To give him a break like that would have been a nice moment for Kimmel. Just gift President Trump a break, say he actually lost somebody. I'm going to take a beat on being that kind of critical.
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Speaker 3: That comes to him grieving Charlie Kirk. You can, you know, make fun of him on whatever else. But that seems tough.
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Speaker 1: Like we say, they're comedians, they do a different thing. But you know, in normal human interaction that would never be.
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Speaker 2: Okay, that's true, and I actually when you put it like that, I get it all right.
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Speaker 1: So a couple of other notes here for you. It looks like Kimmel's contract is on the same trajectory or timeline as Colbert.
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Speaker 2: I was surprised by that too. He's up in May, same as Colbert.
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Speaker 1: So this is his last season, last season of his contracts right now. Also, of course you've been hearing a lot going on in DC. Democrats are now introduced a bill defending free speech. So there's been a lot of talk about this on Capitol Hill. No chance of that going anywhere.
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Speaker 2: I was just going to say, good luck.
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Speaker 1: Just wanted to throw that in there as well. There seemed to be I was watching a short time ago where they think they were growing protests as we speak of this recording on the East coast, on the West coast out in Burbank at the studio. So Jimmy Kimmel that these seem to be growing protests as we speak. All peaceful and whatnot, but people letting their voices be heard out there.
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Speaker 3: Yes, so yes, in Burbank, they say at least two hundred people started gathering around noon Pacific time, that's three pm here on the East Coast, and they have been growing.
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Speaker 2: They say.
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Speaker 3: The crowds are peaceful but noisy, that's how they've been described.
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Speaker 2: And they also were outside here.
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Speaker 3: In New York ABC's offices in Hudson Yards and outside the theater on Hollywood Boulevard where Kimmel would have been taping his late night show. So several different protest areas. But thankfully noisy but peaceful.
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Speaker 2: We'll take that.
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Speaker 1: But again, as we speak, the meeting supposed to be happening tonight, Bloomberg reporting that Kimmel is meeting with Disney executives to discuss the future of his show on ABC. Wonder if he's going alone.
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Speaker 3: I'm almost certain he's flanked with the finest lawyer's money can be an All right, We just.
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Speaker 1: Want to hop in and give it the update. But it's a lot happening on this story. We didn't even get to a lot of robes. The implications, the fear about what's happening, the direction things are going. Right now, we just updated what's happening with Kimmel because there is a lot of concern, robes and shock about what's happening in the industry. We know there are changes, right, how about this television? But we didn't see this.
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Speaker 3: Oh God, no one could have seen I don't think this coming, maybe except for that incredible reporter from earlier who said it's gonna get bad before it's gonna get worse, right, we.
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Speaker 2: Got to get him on.
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Speaker 3: But yes, there is more to come, and we will stay on top of it. Thank you for listening to us for now. I'm Ami Robot alongside TJ.
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Speaker 2: Holmes. Have a great night, everybody.
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Speaker 1: Thank TN
Speaker 1: Hey, there are folks. It is Thursday, September eighteenth, and will the view even make it to the morning. Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. What are your odds now? The FCC chairman spoke one day about going after Kimmel. The next day Kimmel was off the air. Today, Carr is talking about the View.
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Speaker 2: How long you give them?
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Speaker 3: Well, he's talking about whether or not they are a bona fide news program and whether or not that allows them this exemption of not giving equal time to political candidates.
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Speaker 1: What do you give them? What do you give them?
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Speaker 3: Well?
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Speaker 1: The odds you is going to have a problem in the next few days. What would you think based on what we have?
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Speaker 3: Honestly fifty fifty at this point, fifty to fifty. I think there's a chance that.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: It's hard to say, you know what, We're an uncharted territory. I've in my lifetime, and I know we talked earlier today about how there is history for what we're seeing, and it wasn't in my lifetime. It wasn't anything I experienced. I think Nixon might have been the last were that era, But we have been in an era where, yes, the press has been free. We haven't feared repercussions, we haven't been under the microscope. And so now we are, and now we are at odds, and some might even say at war with this administration.
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Speaker 2: So I don't know, all bets are off, all right.
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Speaker 1: So this has been another fast moving day and early evening of development. We didn't necessarily plan on hopping on again and talking about this, but a lot has happened, including yes that Brendan Carr, the FCC chairman, the one who spoke about Kimmel maybe needing to be held accountable, and then the next day Kimmel was taken off the air. While he is speaking now about the view, he spoke today on another podcast his words, he doesn't believe that Kimmel is the last shoe to drop, and then he suggested that they might be going after or should look into the view. We'll give you his exact quote in here in a second. Also an update the latest Kimmel ABC reportedly meeting tonight. Bloomberg is reporting that they are going to be meeting tonight to discuss the future of Kimmel at ABC and of his program, and also CNN is reporting tonight's sources telling them that yes, ABC wants him back. Robes we were there a long time. He is highly regarded at that.
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Speaker 3: Network, without a doubt, and he is, I would say, their biggest star. We talked about this earlier because he's not just his late night comedy show. He is the host of the Oscars. He's their go to when it comes to anything big entertainment. He's the name, he's the draw. He's an incredible host, he's an incredible talent and there's no one quite like him. He can do it all. He can talk politics, he can talk funny, he can lead.
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Speaker 2: He is their go to guy.
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Speaker 1: And he's great. He does it with a he has a charm to him and every man, but he's self deprecating. He just has a char always liked the guy. We don't always like to television, but obviously he's a talented guy. He's off the air right now. We will see what happens, and a lot of folks immediately started thinking about, Okay, what's next. Who are they going to go after next. Brendan Carr on a podcast today and we will give you his quotes now, but he is making a point that maybe maybe maybe they should take a look at the View. Now, everybody at this point knows what this show is. Daytime talk show founded by Barbara Walters. Daytime Talk still considered a news program. But yes, they give their takes, their hot takes, and they have plenty of guests that run the gamut. Well, Brendan Carr said this today, he's about the View.
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Speaker 3: Yes, Carr said, when you look at these other TV shows, What's interesting is the FCC does have rule called the equal Opportunity rule, but there's an exception to that rule called the bonafide news exception, which means if you're a bonafide news program, you don't have to abide by the equal opportunity rule. And over the years, the FCC has developed a body of case law on that and has suggested that most of these late night shows other than SNL are bonafide news programs, And potentially, I would assume you can make the argument that The View is a bonafide news show, but I'm not so sure about that, and I think it's worthwhile to have the FCC look into whether The View and some of the programs that you have still qualified as bonafide news programs and therefore exempt from the equal opportunity regime that Congress has put in place.
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Speaker 1: He's put it out there, just like he did with Kimmel. He kind of just it was a subtle, not a subtle threat. It was a threat, but it wasn't a it wasn't fire and fury in your face. Just you know, make a suggestion, Well, maybe this is what they should do.
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Speaker 3: If you think about it. When he talked about Kimmel, he said, you know.
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Speaker 2: They can make it easy for us, or they can make it hard for us.
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Speaker 3: So he was kind of casual about that as well, casual confidence, which was a little frightening because it was almost as if in that moment he did know the power of his words, and he knew he didn't have to throw a lot of weight to them, He didn't have to throw a lot of fury or fire to them, because he knew that what he was saying was being listened to.
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Speaker 1: Okay, and now, but the bigger I guess the most terrifying thing you could hear if you are in broadcast television is someone saying they might take your broadcast license away. This is the ultimate nuclear option. And so robes, there are a lot of different and difficult pathways to actually take a license that would be caught up in courts for years, and the whole process is just complicated. But to even hear the threat of it. I think many people think that nobody's willing to call Donald Trump's bluff when it comes to something that serious.
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Speaker 2: But why would they?
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Speaker 3: Because Donald Trump has followed through on every threat he's made, whether it be to Harvard or to China, regarding tariffs.
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Speaker 1: To New York Times, the New York.
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Speaker 3: Times, to the Wall Street Journal, his old pal Roger Ayles. I mean, this is someone who follows through. So when he threatened something, you better believe he's going to do it. So, yes, Trump has threatened taking licenses from network television broadcast companies. In fact, it will go ahead and give you his quote.
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Speaker 1: And why the why why would he do so? He said this aboard Air Force one, and I quote, I have read someplace that the networks were ninety seven against me again, ninety seven percent negative, and yet I won and easily all seven swing states. They give me only bad publicity. I mean, they're getting a license. I would think maybe their license should be taken away. Now again that was That's another one. Of those very casual in conversation dropping a bomb. The idea he just said out loud. They're saying negative stuff about me. I'm getting bad press. Maybe their license should be taken away. That's the most terrifying thing I have heard a public official say in all the time I have been in this business.
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Speaker 3: I've never heard anything like that in my life and certainly not in my career.
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Speaker 2: And I must say it is incredibly alarming.
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Speaker 3: And it wasn't just Trump who said it, because Carr actually or mentioned what Trump said earlier, because the President said the decision would ultimately be up to Brendan Carr.
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Speaker 2: That's what he said at the.
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Speaker 3: End of that, right, So he's putting it in the FCC chairman's hands. So when you have Car regarding that or talking about that, he says, when you have a network and you have evening shows and all they do is hit Trump, that's all they do. If you go back, I guess they haven't had a conservative on in years.
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Speaker 2: Or something somebody said.
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Speaker 3: So they are seemingly tag teaming each other with these public statements talking about potentially taking away licenses from networks. Yeah, that is incredibly scary. That is unprecedented in our lifetime, again.
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Speaker 1: Being they are actually saying out loud that the reason is because you're saying bad stuff about me. I don't like your coverage, I don't like you, I don't like what you're saying. I am going to take your license away. That obviously is not legal, but they're making a determination of what qualifies as behavior or speech that violates FCC rules. They are determining for themselves what it is. So, yes, this is a get called up forever in courts. But the point right now is it seems that a lot of networks and a lot of folks in our industry are bowing to the pressure.
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Speaker 3: Correct And so when he's now calling out these late night talk shows, calling out the view and saying they're not potentially bonafide news networks, and so they have violated basically the equal opportunity law by having the content they've had. He went on to say this specifically Trump did He said, if you go back, I guess they haven't had a conservative on in years. Right, So when you go back to that statement that he said, that is in that is exactly in the line of thinking of hey, we can take away their license because they violated this law because they're not actually bonifid.
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Speaker 2: We're seeing them actually lay out.
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Speaker 3: Their legal plan if they so choose to go after the licenses.
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Speaker 1: And something we want to share with you when we come back. Stay here, because there is one particular quote, of course, that's been out there that Jimmy Kimmel said that got him in all of this trouble. But it wasn't just what he said that night. It wasn't just that quote. He did something also the next night that really got the ball rolling. All right, we continue now here on Amy and TJ with Jimmy Kimmel. You know what's gone down some new developments. President Trump is threatened to take licenses away from other networks who don't give him favorable coverage. The FCC chair is calling on them to possibly take a look at the view. So a lot of fast moving developments today. I did want to get at what Jimmy Kimmel actually said Robes his original comment. That's getting a lot of attention. And you know what before I give that, let's be fair the day of or was it the day after Jimmy Kimmel's comments about Charlie Kirk. He did it on Instagram after the shooting, and this was not I haven't seen it, actually reported a whole lot. But still it should be noted that he did have kind words for the Kirk family at that time.
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Speaker 3: That's right, and we referenced it, but we actually have the verbatim now, so I think it's important for you all to listen to what he said after the shooting on Instagram publicly and in writing, Kimmel wrote this, Instead of the angry finger pointing, can we just for one day agree that it is horrible and monstrous to shoot another human on behalf of my family. We send love to the Kirks and to all the children, parents and innocence who fall victim to senseless gun violence.
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Speaker 1: That was correct, That was well done, well said, and appropriate. Completely agree, right, So we does that after the shooting. Now we go back to Monday. This was the night that got him, for the most part, in trouble, and the quote that got him in trouble was this one. We hit some new lows over the weekend with the Maga gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Cook as anything other than one of them, and doing everything they can to score political points from it. Now, that's the one that's getting a lot of attention. And okay, maybe from a political standpoint, but there is more to what he said that night that robes I felt just from a human standpoint, even if it was a joke. I know he's a comedian, but it made me a little more uncomfortable.
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Speaker 3: It was interesting because at this point on Tuesday night, he knew he was facing some heat. He knew he was getting criticism, he knew he was getting backlash from the comments that he made on Monday. So instead of backing off a little or even apologizing, he doubled down and went for it.
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Speaker 2: Truly. So this is what he said on Tuesday.
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Speaker 1: No, this was continuation of Monday. This was Monday. It just didn't get a lot of attention, got it. So he said something right after that I found to be more insensitive.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I found it to be.
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Speaker 1: As a human being. That was that's tough. I don't know. They're comedians and they make all kinds of fun. But this was the rest of what he said immediately after that initial quote that got him. That's trouble. He said this, and I thought this part really did stink.
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Speaker 3: There was a clip that rolled of Trump being asked how he's doing after the murder of his friend, and Trump replies, I think very good. And by the way, and there's noise behind him when he's talking, right there where you see all the trucks. They just started construction of the new ballroom for the White House. So Jimmy Kimmel comes back after hearing that clip and says he's at the fourth stage of grief construction. And he went on to say, this is not how an adult grieves the murder of someone he called a friend. This is how a four year old warns a goldfish.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I thought that was tough.
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Speaker 2: That was tough. That was harsh, harsh for sure.
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Speaker 1: As I know, comedians do their thing, and the.
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Speaker 3: Timing is important, not just comedic timing, but actually waiting a beat for someone to actually put someone in the ground, and like he hasn't even had his funeral yet, and you know.
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Speaker 1: And when I actually saw the President respond that way, my first thought was he wanted to avoid the question, avoid the emotion. He wanted to change the subject immediately.
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Speaker 2: And that's understandable.
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Speaker 1: Yes, these folks are now this is something I give him credit. I think genuinely they are hurting, and they were very close to this young man. I can imagine having somebody gunned down like that. That's you're that close to.
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Speaker 2: So I do like it's interesting.
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Speaker 3: I'm looking right where we are at Kimmel's Instagram post that we just read aloud, and what he said just a matter of days later flies in the face of his Instagram post. It negates it. It doesn't feel heartfelt now because I'm looking what he joked about it.
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Speaker 2: I understand it. I understand it's comedy.
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Speaker 3: I get it, and they go places that most people would never dare. But it makes his Instagram post feel insincere. I'm not saying it isn't, but it just it's hard to have both of those things be true.
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Speaker 2: I know they can be, but I get it.
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Speaker 1: It's uncomfortable. That's that's difficult to give everybody that, I mean, the guy that he goes after pretty harshly every single night. To give him a break like that would have been a nice moment for Kimmel. Just gift President Trump a break, say he actually lost somebody. I'm going to take a beat on being that kind of critical.
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Speaker 3: That comes to him grieving Charlie Kirk. You can, you know, make fun of him on whatever else. But that seems tough.
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Speaker 1: Like we say, they're comedians, they do a different thing. But you know, in normal human interaction that would never be.
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Speaker 2: Okay, that's true, and I actually when you put it like that, I get it all right.
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Speaker 1: So a couple of other notes here for you. It looks like Kimmel's contract is on the same trajectory or timeline as Colbert.
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Speaker 2: I was surprised by that too. He's up in May, same as Colbert.
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Speaker 1: So this is his last season, last season of his contracts right now. Also, of course you've been hearing a lot going on in DC. Democrats are now introduced a bill defending free speech. So there's been a lot of talk about this on Capitol Hill. No chance of that going anywhere.
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Speaker 2: I was just going to say, good luck.
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Speaker 1: Just wanted to throw that in there as well. There seemed to be I was watching a short time ago where they think they were growing protests as we speak of this recording on the East coast, on the West coast out in Burbank at the studio. So Jimmy Kimmel that these seem to be growing protests as we speak. All peaceful and whatnot, but people letting their voices be heard out there.
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Speaker 3: Yes, so yes, in Burbank, they say at least two hundred people started gathering around noon Pacific time, that's three pm here on the East Coast, and they have been growing.
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Speaker 2: They say.
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Speaker 3: The crowds are peaceful but noisy, that's how they've been described.
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Speaker 2: And they also were outside here.
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Speaker 3: In New York ABC's offices in Hudson Yards and outside the theater on Hollywood Boulevard where Kimmel would have been taping his late night show. So several different protest areas. But thankfully noisy but peaceful.
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Speaker 2: We'll take that.
00:17:51
Speaker 1: But again, as we speak, the meeting supposed to be happening tonight, Bloomberg reporting that Kimmel is meeting with Disney executives to discuss the future of his show on ABC. Wonder if he's going alone.
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Speaker 3: I'm almost certain he's flanked with the finest lawyer's money can be an All right, We just.
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Speaker 1: Want to hop in and give it the update. But it's a lot happening on this story. We didn't even get to a lot of robes. The implications, the fear about what's happening, the direction things are going. Right now, we just updated what's happening with Kimmel because there is a lot of concern, robes and shock about what's happening in the industry. We know there are changes, right, how about this television? But we didn't see this.
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Speaker 3: Oh God, no one could have seen I don't think this coming, maybe except for that incredible reporter from earlier who said it's gonna get bad before it's gonna get worse, right, we.
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Speaker 2: Got to get him on.
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Speaker 3: But yes, there is more to come, and we will stay on top of it. Thank you for listening to us for now. I'm Ami Robot alongside TJ.
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Speaker 2: Holmes. Have a great night, everybody.
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Speaker 1: Thank TN