July 27, 2026
Influencer Murdered By Estranged Husband She Called A Pedophile Weeks Earlier
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RSS Feed A horrific story out of Oklahoma has left two children without their mother. 43-year-old Sara Gilson joined in on a TikTok trend pretending to sit down for a Netflix documentary, that she said would be about her “soon to be ex-husband who I just found out is a pedophile.” Two weeks later, her young son called 9-1-1 to say his stepdad shot his mom. Police found Gilson dead, shot in the head next to her 48-year-old estranged husband who had a self inflicted gunshot wound. We go into the backstory of this tragic outcome, beginning with the allegations against her ex, that ultimately led to both of their deaths.
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00:00:02
Speaker 1: Hey there, folks.
00:00:02
Speaker 2: It is Monday, July twenty seventh, and a social media influencer went on social media and accused her a strange husband, of being a child molested. Two weeks later, she was dead. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. She's dead and an investigation is underway trying to figure out exactly what happened to her robes. But the timing of all of this is pretty ominous, and you could argue almost pretty clear.
00:00:31
Speaker 3: Yes, And it's very chilling. And look, this is another unfortunate cautionary tale. You know, you hear about someone being murdered, Oftentimes people look to the boyfriend, the husband, especially an estranged husband as soon to be ex husband.
00:00:50
Speaker 1: But I do think that somehow we.
00:00:52
Speaker 3: Feel like, I don't know, maybe because she went on social media, that she was putting it all out there, that somehow that gave her some sort of safety net.
00:01:00
Speaker 1: She clearly went out and felt unsafe.
00:01:01
Speaker 3: She had a protective order against him, She had multiple protective orders against him over a several year period, and still nothing protected her when he came over to their once shared home and shot her.
00:01:15
Speaker 2: This is a we see these It feels like certainly more than one a week that we have a headline influencer dead, influencer dead. There have been cases of murder, there have been cases of suicide, there have been cases of accidents because they were trying something romes. We see this a lot, it seems, And no, I guess this is somewhat unique roles because we are talking about a murder here, but still it goes in line with what seems to be pretty dangerous stuff these days, being online and putting stuff out there. Yeah, and this is a case, this is this is a really really tough one. Sarah Gilson is her name nowes you describe her more so as a mommy influencer.
00:01:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was into fashion and I'm looking at her TikTok page right now and she definitely had some brands that she was repping and some jewelry, but a lot of it was also when you look at her social media, she.
00:02:10
Speaker 1: Had two kids. She was very proud of that.
00:02:13
Speaker 3: She just talked about mom life and what she wore, what she did and look, other moms are always looking for inspiration from on what to wear and when you're dropping off the kids, when you're going to pilates, and that was just the kind of woman she was. She was a dedicated, devoted mom who was in the middle of a messy divorce.
00:02:33
Speaker 2: Messy ugly robes because of allegations. So if we go back here first of all robes before, which do you want to take first the crime he was accused of, or you want to go through the crime here that actually took places, because it's two different sets of happenings. Two weeks ago, another was a month ago, and then we had the crime itself that days ago. Yeah, which order we want to go?
00:03:01
Speaker 3: I say, I say we let's start from the beginning. I think that's always the best way to tell a story. And it all began on June ninth, when an underage girl, she was fifteen years old, I believe, and her parent went to police and they said that Sarah Gilson's soon to be ex husband, his name is Jeremiah Duffy, but he went by Sean. So they said that Sean Duffy inappropriately kissed and touched her.
00:03:27
Speaker 1: And here's the deal. He was her youth basketball coach.
00:03:33
Speaker 3: So Sarah Gilson's ex husband was a girl's basketball coach. And now you got a young girl on his team, saying that not just once, but several times was inappropriate with her.
00:03:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it wasn't just the girl, and it wasn't just the mom rose. Apparently other folks actually witnessed another coach. Yeah, so this was pretty tough stuff here, So that case was going to move forward. From what I understood, he hadn't faced chares yet.
00:04:01
Speaker 3: No, it was a little So this is a little bit of a detail and insider detail, But Duffy is actually a member of a Native American tribe. This happened on tribal land, so there was some discrepancy as to who had jurisdiction over investigating this. But police did have a police report out charges were pending, but apparently he was on the run. So the police report reads like this, just in terms of his behavior. Similar conduct by this coach towards this particular juvenile player was reported to have occurred over an extended period of time in multiple law enforcement jurisdictions across multiple states prior to this incident, So I really think there was a a they were trying to figure out which jurisdiction had the legal way forward to press charges because he was a traveling basketball coach. So some of these alleged incidents happened off of tribal lands.
00:05:00
Speaker 1: They were just trying to figure out who a jurisdiction.
00:05:01
Speaker 2: So against the fifteen year old girl Robes. And if we haven't said yet, he's forty eight.
00:05:08
Speaker 1: He's forty eight years old.
00:05:09
Speaker 2: And it doesn't matter if he was a younger coach or whatever. But just as of note, he was forty eight.
00:05:14
Speaker 3: Yes, And the girl told her mother that, and I think she showed these to police because this is all in the police report. He was sending her messages, he was inviting her to his hotel room during their basketball tournament trips. Then he offered her money to keep her quiet. So there was an extensive amount of evidence against him, and he was going to be facing some serious charges, no doubt.
00:05:38
Speaker 2: So even though he hadn't been charged, police took it upon themselves to go to his wife. Now help me here, babe. Was he estranged before? Were they estranged before the possible charges came up?
00:05:54
Speaker 3: I do believe that was the case because according to and there have been a lot of reports that even years before, as far back as twenty twenty one, she had filed two separate protective orders against him. They did end up getting dismissed because she didn't appear at the hearing. But they had had a tumultuous relationship and he's only been described as her estranged husband, so I believe before these accusations they were already in the process.
00:06:22
Speaker 1: They were not living together.
00:06:24
Speaker 2: So the accusations come, police go right to her and essentially Robes give her a heads up and said you might want to take some action.
00:06:31
Speaker 1: Yes, and so she actually did.
00:06:32
Speaker 3: She went straight to court and asked for Interestingly, she asked for a protective order on June tenth, and that was the same day this fifteen year old girl and her mother both asked for a protective order against them. So they both on the same day, separately, went out got a court to file a protective order for both of them. And she says that she in her report, she said he had a firearm, that he threatened.
00:06:56
Speaker 1: Suicide, and that he was on the run.
00:06:58
Speaker 3: So she made all of those things very clear in her report that he had he was armed, dangerous, and nowhere to be found. And so he was ordered to stay one hundred yards away from her and her home. But if they don't know where the guy is. I don't even know was he given this order? Did he even was he even aware of it? That's a good question, because he was on the run, like they didn't know where he was.
00:07:23
Speaker 2: That's a very good question, Robes. So this was all happening Robes, Like you just said in June, most of us here in the world had no idea this is happening because it's a private matter happening to a woman than we are, we weren't at least familiar with. But then Robes, she makes.
00:07:42
Speaker 3: It public and this is where things turned. So on July eleventh, Sarah Gilson went on her TikTok and she did something that I didn't even know is a thing. But this is a trend on TikTok where you mimic being a part of a Netflix document Memory and you pretend to sit down and you're preparing to give your tell all interview, your little confessional interview, and people will go on to TikTok doing this. They can range from something silly like an inside joke, or to maybe making a traumatic revelation. And that's what she chose to do. So she does this whole thing, and she goes and sits down on a chair against a wall and looks like she's a little nervous, in fidgety, and underneath her the caption says, preparing for when Netflix drops a documentary about my soon to be ex husband who I just found out is a pedophile.
00:08:37
Speaker 2: That's a direct, very public accusation in Robes. That is, as like you can be accused of a lot of stuff in public, you can not go to overcome that one. That's something went by putting that out publicly, Robes. I'm sure she was mad and frustrated or whatever else, but oh, she did it in a way almost being dismissive of or she's clearly done with she but she put it out there, Robes. That's and apparently that corney police set him off.
00:09:05
Speaker 3: Yes, she flat out outed him. And her caption was I wish I was joking. Hashtag plot twist, hashtag Netflix, hashtag documentary. So it goes wild. And by the way, now that she's been murdered, I don't know how many views it had, and obviously it wouldn't have had to have had too many for him to be upset. But the video, by the way I just looked, has twenty one point two million views now because of news of her death. But it was that video, yes, that police believe was the catalyst for him to come over to her home less than two weeks after she posts that video.
00:09:49
Speaker 1: She's dead.
00:09:50
Speaker 3: He's dead, and obviously that seems to be what set him off.
00:09:56
Speaker 2: And the circumstances here to your point, Robes, how can they track down how can they enforce a restraining order if you don't know where the guy is to tell him to stay away and he shows up, Robes, at the absolute worst time. He shows up, uninvited, breaks into her home and here we are. So it was to have correct me in the day. Was it Friday?
00:10:19
Speaker 3: It was late Thursday night at eleven sixteen pm when the nine to one to one call came in. When we come back, we are going to tell you about the gruesome murder and what police say how they found out what had happened to this mom of two. Welcome back everyone, as we talk about this chilling social media influencer murder that happened late last week. And it all happened, police believe, because of something she ended up putting on online about her soon to be ex husband.
00:11:02
Speaker 1: She put out to the world that he.
00:11:04
Speaker 3: Was not just being accused of being a pedophile, but that he in fact was a pedophile, and within two weeks of her posting this video to her TikTok page, she is dead. Yes, we said, it happened just before midnight. She actually placed the first nine one one call, and it's described as you can hear a woman screaming followed by what sounded to be a gunshot. The nine to one to one call actually recorded. They believe the fatal gunshot to her head. But it was moments later when another nine one one call came, and this time from a neighbor's house.
00:11:42
Speaker 1: It was her young son.
00:11:45
Speaker 3: Do we get an age eleven, eleven years old.
00:11:49
Speaker 2: He's calling to report the crime. He's calling to report that his stepdad has shot his momb That was the call, and we've done so many stories where kids have been that young in the this trauma. So he's the one that reports that. They show up and find the both of them with gunshot wound to the head, and they are investigating it as a murder suicide robes. They don't have any reason to believe there's any other person out there or a threat to the public. They are not looking for a suspect.
00:12:17
Speaker 1: No, they are not.
00:12:18
Speaker 3: They believe they have the man who is responsible. And of course it was her estranged husband. And yes, it is incredibly sad that her eleven year old son who was immediately placed into protective custody. But I actually was following up on it because I wanted to know what happened to him. He is now with his other parent, so I would presume that is his biological father. He is now with him now. I wasn't able to find out too much information about her daughter.
00:12:43
Speaker 1: She has a daughter as well.
00:12:45
Speaker 3: Not sure what has happened to her, but they were both described as you know, young children, and that they were her life and that everything she did she did for them. She was trying to create a better life for them. She was making pretty good money as a social media influencer there in Oklahoma, and it's actually there's something just so sad about looking through her her TikTok page and seeing all the things she was selling and promoting and some of the brands. We love Airy that was her favorite brand, she said, all things airy with a big heart. But she's got two million likes and she's got all of these views now posthumously. You know, I just think about your social media influencer. You're looking for likes, you're looking for clicks. That's your lifeblood, that's how you make money.
00:13:31
Speaker 1: And now that.
00:13:31
Speaker 3: She's dyed, her entire TikTok page has literally blown up. And that last video, the video that almost certainly got her killed, now has more likes than she probably could have ever imagined. There's just something really eerie and chilling about that, more than twenty two million likes.
00:13:48
Speaker 2: You know, it's always a right. You can't go viral by putting something positive out into the world. It seems right. People will show up with the mortgage, they'll show up when something terrible has happened to you. If there's a scandal, it's chaos, controversy, conflict, they'll show up and yeah, that's too bad. And from what you were saying, by what she was putting out into the world is all positive.
00:14:08
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely, talking about her favorite things to wear, what she you know, like what she does in pilates, like just basic stuff that forty something year old moms are all going to gravitate towards and how do you do it? And how do you wear it? And how do you look good doing all the crazy mom stuff we're all doing. Yeah, she was out there as a just a positive ray of light and it's just incredibly sad. Yes, she made a mistake calling out her ex husband. It is It is a cautionary tale, you know. I did read one article about this, just as a reminder to women. We always say it's more dangerous when you leave. It's most dangerous when you're in the middle of a breakup. But just remember, according to the CDC, of women who are murdered, more than half a large majority of those women are killed by the men they are in a relationship with or were once in a relationship with.
00:14:59
Speaker 1: Period. It is dangerous. And I can understand.
00:15:03
Speaker 3: Maybe why it felt good to put that that cheeky video out about her soon to be x But my god, people's reputations.
00:15:12
Speaker 1: He that that was the final straw for him.
00:15:14
Speaker 2: It appears nobody h he is solely responsible robes for what happened to her. Absolutely, but where is the caution Where is the warning that we would give to someone else about Hey, don't it's not worth putting that out just for the sake of I mean, maybe she never thought this guy would do hard well. No, actually she.
00:15:34
Speaker 3: Went out and got a restraining order. She said he had a firearm. She said he was armed and dangerous.
00:15:39
Speaker 2: So what is where do we learn here? Babe? No, she should be able to put whatever she wants out without ending up dead. But in doing so, Robes, I mean, what is the lesson? What do we take away here in telling people? What, Hey, it's not worth it to just rile people up like that publicly. It's not worth it to make those accusations. It's not worth it to start that type of fight. It's not worth it. And I guess we've seen too much Roves that, Yes, people react, people get hurt based on social media posts, and we just I don't know. She had every right to do what she wanted to do. But what do we advise and what do we learn from this moving forward?
00:16:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that's a really good way to put it. She had a right to put out whatever she wanted. She should be able to say whatever she thinks. However, look, I know, hindsight is twenty twenty, but this is a moment where obviously the post was not worth the outcome at all, and it's just something to consider when you're dealing with someone who you know can be violent, who has threatened violence, who you have feared. Believe people when they tell you who they are, Believe people when they show you who they are, because unfortunately, while this is rare, it does happen, and it is something worth noting, and we certainly feel for her kids and all those who loved her. It is such a sad, unfortunate and unnecessary tragic death.
00:17:00
Speaker 1: And with that.
00:17:00
Speaker 3: Everyone, we always appreciate you listening to us. I made roboch alongside TJ.
00:17:04
Speaker 1: Holmes. We will talk to you soon
Speaker 1: Hey there, folks.
00:00:02
Speaker 2: It is Monday, July twenty seventh, and a social media influencer went on social media and accused her a strange husband, of being a child molested. Two weeks later, she was dead. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. She's dead and an investigation is underway trying to figure out exactly what happened to her robes. But the timing of all of this is pretty ominous, and you could argue almost pretty clear.
00:00:31
Speaker 3: Yes, And it's very chilling. And look, this is another unfortunate cautionary tale. You know, you hear about someone being murdered, Oftentimes people look to the boyfriend, the husband, especially an estranged husband as soon to be ex husband.
00:00:50
Speaker 1: But I do think that somehow we.
00:00:52
Speaker 3: Feel like, I don't know, maybe because she went on social media, that she was putting it all out there, that somehow that gave her some sort of safety net.
00:01:00
Speaker 1: She clearly went out and felt unsafe.
00:01:01
Speaker 3: She had a protective order against him, She had multiple protective orders against him over a several year period, and still nothing protected her when he came over to their once shared home and shot her.
00:01:15
Speaker 2: This is a we see these It feels like certainly more than one a week that we have a headline influencer dead, influencer dead. There have been cases of murder, there have been cases of suicide, there have been cases of accidents because they were trying something romes. We see this a lot, it seems, And no, I guess this is somewhat unique roles because we are talking about a murder here, but still it goes in line with what seems to be pretty dangerous stuff these days, being online and putting stuff out there. Yeah, and this is a case, this is this is a really really tough one. Sarah Gilson is her name nowes you describe her more so as a mommy influencer.
00:01:58
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was into fashion and I'm looking at her TikTok page right now and she definitely had some brands that she was repping and some jewelry, but a lot of it was also when you look at her social media, she.
00:02:10
Speaker 1: Had two kids. She was very proud of that.
00:02:13
Speaker 3: She just talked about mom life and what she wore, what she did and look, other moms are always looking for inspiration from on what to wear and when you're dropping off the kids, when you're going to pilates, and that was just the kind of woman she was. She was a dedicated, devoted mom who was in the middle of a messy divorce.
00:02:33
Speaker 2: Messy ugly robes because of allegations. So if we go back here first of all robes before, which do you want to take first the crime he was accused of, or you want to go through the crime here that actually took places, because it's two different sets of happenings. Two weeks ago, another was a month ago, and then we had the crime itself that days ago. Yeah, which order we want to go?
00:03:01
Speaker 3: I say, I say we let's start from the beginning. I think that's always the best way to tell a story. And it all began on June ninth, when an underage girl, she was fifteen years old, I believe, and her parent went to police and they said that Sarah Gilson's soon to be ex husband, his name is Jeremiah Duffy, but he went by Sean. So they said that Sean Duffy inappropriately kissed and touched her.
00:03:27
Speaker 1: And here's the deal. He was her youth basketball coach.
00:03:33
Speaker 3: So Sarah Gilson's ex husband was a girl's basketball coach. And now you got a young girl on his team, saying that not just once, but several times was inappropriate with her.
00:03:44
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it wasn't just the girl, and it wasn't just the mom rose. Apparently other folks actually witnessed another coach. Yeah, so this was pretty tough stuff here, So that case was going to move forward. From what I understood, he hadn't faced chares yet.
00:04:01
Speaker 3: No, it was a little So this is a little bit of a detail and insider detail, But Duffy is actually a member of a Native American tribe. This happened on tribal land, so there was some discrepancy as to who had jurisdiction over investigating this. But police did have a police report out charges were pending, but apparently he was on the run. So the police report reads like this, just in terms of his behavior. Similar conduct by this coach towards this particular juvenile player was reported to have occurred over an extended period of time in multiple law enforcement jurisdictions across multiple states prior to this incident, So I really think there was a a they were trying to figure out which jurisdiction had the legal way forward to press charges because he was a traveling basketball coach. So some of these alleged incidents happened off of tribal lands.
00:05:00
Speaker 1: They were just trying to figure out who a jurisdiction.
00:05:01
Speaker 2: So against the fifteen year old girl Robes. And if we haven't said yet, he's forty eight.
00:05:08
Speaker 1: He's forty eight years old.
00:05:09
Speaker 2: And it doesn't matter if he was a younger coach or whatever. But just as of note, he was forty eight.
00:05:14
Speaker 3: Yes, And the girl told her mother that, and I think she showed these to police because this is all in the police report. He was sending her messages, he was inviting her to his hotel room during their basketball tournament trips. Then he offered her money to keep her quiet. So there was an extensive amount of evidence against him, and he was going to be facing some serious charges, no doubt.
00:05:38
Speaker 2: So even though he hadn't been charged, police took it upon themselves to go to his wife. Now help me here, babe. Was he estranged before? Were they estranged before the possible charges came up?
00:05:54
Speaker 3: I do believe that was the case because according to and there have been a lot of reports that even years before, as far back as twenty twenty one, she had filed two separate protective orders against him. They did end up getting dismissed because she didn't appear at the hearing. But they had had a tumultuous relationship and he's only been described as her estranged husband, so I believe before these accusations they were already in the process.
00:06:22
Speaker 1: They were not living together.
00:06:24
Speaker 2: So the accusations come, police go right to her and essentially Robes give her a heads up and said you might want to take some action.
00:06:31
Speaker 1: Yes, and so she actually did.
00:06:32
Speaker 3: She went straight to court and asked for Interestingly, she asked for a protective order on June tenth, and that was the same day this fifteen year old girl and her mother both asked for a protective order against them. So they both on the same day, separately, went out got a court to file a protective order for both of them. And she says that she in her report, she said he had a firearm, that he threatened.
00:06:56
Speaker 1: Suicide, and that he was on the run.
00:06:58
Speaker 3: So she made all of those things very clear in her report that he had he was armed, dangerous, and nowhere to be found. And so he was ordered to stay one hundred yards away from her and her home. But if they don't know where the guy is. I don't even know was he given this order? Did he even was he even aware of it? That's a good question, because he was on the run, like they didn't know where he was.
00:07:23
Speaker 2: That's a very good question, Robes. So this was all happening Robes, Like you just said in June, most of us here in the world had no idea this is happening because it's a private matter happening to a woman than we are, we weren't at least familiar with. But then Robes, she makes.
00:07:42
Speaker 3: It public and this is where things turned. So on July eleventh, Sarah Gilson went on her TikTok and she did something that I didn't even know is a thing. But this is a trend on TikTok where you mimic being a part of a Netflix document Memory and you pretend to sit down and you're preparing to give your tell all interview, your little confessional interview, and people will go on to TikTok doing this. They can range from something silly like an inside joke, or to maybe making a traumatic revelation. And that's what she chose to do. So she does this whole thing, and she goes and sits down on a chair against a wall and looks like she's a little nervous, in fidgety, and underneath her the caption says, preparing for when Netflix drops a documentary about my soon to be ex husband who I just found out is a pedophile.
00:08:37
Speaker 2: That's a direct, very public accusation in Robes. That is, as like you can be accused of a lot of stuff in public, you can not go to overcome that one. That's something went by putting that out publicly, Robes. I'm sure she was mad and frustrated or whatever else, but oh, she did it in a way almost being dismissive of or she's clearly done with she but she put it out there, Robes. That's and apparently that corney police set him off.
00:09:05
Speaker 3: Yes, she flat out outed him. And her caption was I wish I was joking. Hashtag plot twist, hashtag Netflix, hashtag documentary. So it goes wild. And by the way, now that she's been murdered, I don't know how many views it had, and obviously it wouldn't have had to have had too many for him to be upset. But the video, by the way I just looked, has twenty one point two million views now because of news of her death. But it was that video, yes, that police believe was the catalyst for him to come over to her home less than two weeks after she posts that video.
00:09:49
Speaker 1: She's dead.
00:09:50
Speaker 3: He's dead, and obviously that seems to be what set him off.
00:09:56
Speaker 2: And the circumstances here to your point, Robes, how can they track down how can they enforce a restraining order if you don't know where the guy is to tell him to stay away and he shows up, Robes, at the absolute worst time. He shows up, uninvited, breaks into her home and here we are. So it was to have correct me in the day. Was it Friday?
00:10:19
Speaker 3: It was late Thursday night at eleven sixteen pm when the nine to one to one call came in. When we come back, we are going to tell you about the gruesome murder and what police say how they found out what had happened to this mom of two. Welcome back everyone, as we talk about this chilling social media influencer murder that happened late last week. And it all happened, police believe, because of something she ended up putting on online about her soon to be ex husband.
00:11:02
Speaker 1: She put out to the world that he.
00:11:04
Speaker 3: Was not just being accused of being a pedophile, but that he in fact was a pedophile, and within two weeks of her posting this video to her TikTok page, she is dead. Yes, we said, it happened just before midnight. She actually placed the first nine one one call, and it's described as you can hear a woman screaming followed by what sounded to be a gunshot. The nine to one to one call actually recorded. They believe the fatal gunshot to her head. But it was moments later when another nine one one call came, and this time from a neighbor's house.
00:11:42
Speaker 1: It was her young son.
00:11:45
Speaker 3: Do we get an age eleven, eleven years old.
00:11:49
Speaker 2: He's calling to report the crime. He's calling to report that his stepdad has shot his momb That was the call, and we've done so many stories where kids have been that young in the this trauma. So he's the one that reports that. They show up and find the both of them with gunshot wound to the head, and they are investigating it as a murder suicide robes. They don't have any reason to believe there's any other person out there or a threat to the public. They are not looking for a suspect.
00:12:17
Speaker 1: No, they are not.
00:12:18
Speaker 3: They believe they have the man who is responsible. And of course it was her estranged husband. And yes, it is incredibly sad that her eleven year old son who was immediately placed into protective custody. But I actually was following up on it because I wanted to know what happened to him. He is now with his other parent, so I would presume that is his biological father. He is now with him now. I wasn't able to find out too much information about her daughter.
00:12:43
Speaker 1: She has a daughter as well.
00:12:45
Speaker 3: Not sure what has happened to her, but they were both described as you know, young children, and that they were her life and that everything she did she did for them. She was trying to create a better life for them. She was making pretty good money as a social media influencer there in Oklahoma, and it's actually there's something just so sad about looking through her her TikTok page and seeing all the things she was selling and promoting and some of the brands. We love Airy that was her favorite brand, she said, all things airy with a big heart. But she's got two million likes and she's got all of these views now posthumously. You know, I just think about your social media influencer. You're looking for likes, you're looking for clicks. That's your lifeblood, that's how you make money.
00:13:31
Speaker 1: And now that.
00:13:31
Speaker 3: She's dyed, her entire TikTok page has literally blown up. And that last video, the video that almost certainly got her killed, now has more likes than she probably could have ever imagined. There's just something really eerie and chilling about that, more than twenty two million likes.
00:13:48
Speaker 2: You know, it's always a right. You can't go viral by putting something positive out into the world. It seems right. People will show up with the mortgage, they'll show up when something terrible has happened to you. If there's a scandal, it's chaos, controversy, conflict, they'll show up and yeah, that's too bad. And from what you were saying, by what she was putting out into the world is all positive.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, absolutely, talking about her favorite things to wear, what she you know, like what she does in pilates, like just basic stuff that forty something year old moms are all going to gravitate towards and how do you do it? And how do you wear it? And how do you look good doing all the crazy mom stuff we're all doing. Yeah, she was out there as a just a positive ray of light and it's just incredibly sad. Yes, she made a mistake calling out her ex husband. It is It is a cautionary tale, you know. I did read one article about this, just as a reminder to women. We always say it's more dangerous when you leave. It's most dangerous when you're in the middle of a breakup. But just remember, according to the CDC, of women who are murdered, more than half a large majority of those women are killed by the men they are in a relationship with or were once in a relationship with.
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Speaker 1: Period. It is dangerous. And I can understand.
00:15:03
Speaker 3: Maybe why it felt good to put that that cheeky video out about her soon to be x But my god, people's reputations.
00:15:12
Speaker 1: He that that was the final straw for him.
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Speaker 2: It appears nobody h he is solely responsible robes for what happened to her. Absolutely, but where is the caution Where is the warning that we would give to someone else about Hey, don't it's not worth putting that out just for the sake of I mean, maybe she never thought this guy would do hard well. No, actually she.
00:15:34
Speaker 3: Went out and got a restraining order. She said he had a firearm. She said he was armed and dangerous.
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Speaker 2: So what is where do we learn here? Babe? No, she should be able to put whatever she wants out without ending up dead. But in doing so, Robes, I mean, what is the lesson? What do we take away here in telling people? What, Hey, it's not worth it to just rile people up like that publicly. It's not worth it to make those accusations. It's not worth it to start that type of fight. It's not worth it. And I guess we've seen too much Roves that, Yes, people react, people get hurt based on social media posts, and we just I don't know. She had every right to do what she wanted to do. But what do we advise and what do we learn from this moving forward?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that's a really good way to put it. She had a right to put out whatever she wanted. She should be able to say whatever she thinks. However, look, I know, hindsight is twenty twenty, but this is a moment where obviously the post was not worth the outcome at all, and it's just something to consider when you're dealing with someone who you know can be violent, who has threatened violence, who you have feared. Believe people when they tell you who they are, Believe people when they show you who they are, because unfortunately, while this is rare, it does happen, and it is something worth noting, and we certainly feel for her kids and all those who loved her. It is such a sad, unfortunate and unnecessary tragic death.
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Speaker 1: And with that.
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Speaker 3: Everyone, we always appreciate you listening to us. I made roboch alongside TJ.
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Speaker 1: Holmes. We will talk to you soon