June 7, 2026
"I Didn’t Conspire To Cause Mr. Epstein’s Death”: Epstein Prison Guard Testimony Released
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RSS Feed One of the prison guards responsible for inmates on the night of Jeffrey Epstein’s death, and the last person known to see him alive, testified before Congress, and the transcripts have just been released. Tova Noel told lawmakers what she knows about that night, including why she falsified records during her shift, what she was searching for on the internet and where those deposits of money came from leading up to Epstein’s death. Noel also talks about the mysterious orange blob seen in surveillance video near Epstein’s cell that is creating even more mystery around the footage. Finally, Noel has a plea to the public as she describes constant harassment, conspiracy theories and even death threats for her role that night.
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Speaker 1: Hey, the folks. It is Sunday, June seventh, and we are now for the first time, getting to hear directly from the controversial guard who was one of the last to see Jeffrey Epstein alive. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Roapes. This is maybe even a name people would recognize because it's a unique name, But this is the one people kept talking about and talking about and talking about, saying, wait a minute, you were just googling some other stuff, where'd all that money come from? Really, this was the one people had questions about. We're hearing from.
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Speaker 2: Her, yes, and so this was incredibly fascinating. We're talking about Tova Noel. She was one of the two prison guards who was on duty the night Jeffrey Epstein died by suicide. And she has been at the center of conspiracy theories. And I say, I'm seeing it in past tens, as are you. But according to her, it happens daily weekly where there's another new conspiracy theory, where there's another article or speculation that involves her role in Jeffrey Epstein's death, and she feels like she can never ever get away from it.
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Speaker 3: She can never clear her name.
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Speaker 1: I'll say, bless our heart. However, Robes, I'm sorry. If she was better at her job that night, she wouldn't be at the center of it. I'm not meaning to be offensive here, but Robes, I understand she doesn't know the full context in the backstory of Epstein and what it would eventually become. But Robes, go just remind people of why it's such a conspiracy theory. Yes, where's all this money coming from? Right? Nobody can explain that. Wait a minute, you were you don't know anything about him? So why are your internet searchers.
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Speaker 3: About Jeffrey Epstein?
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Speaker 1: Yes? Why? And Robes, there were too many Wait a minutes, and oh I was looking somewhere else, and I was googling this and I.
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Speaker 2: Wasn't And she falsified documents and she fully admits shit.
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Speaker 1: So Robes, she will never ever be away from being a part of a conspiracy theory.
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Speaker 3: Sorry, probably not.
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Speaker 2: Everyone who believes that Jeffrey Epstein did not die by suicide will actually have to then believe that she, along with the other guard, had some role in not doing the rounds like they were supposed to, not checking on him like they were supposed to and we'll get to this at the end. But I have always found and anyone who's deeply immersed in this story knows what I'm talking about when I say the orange blob. But her response to what this orange blob was? There was this quick orange blob on the surveillance camera outside of Jeffrey Epstein's cell the night before the night he died, excuse me, And it was really like the last movement basically before he was ultimately found dead. So whoever is responsible for that orange blob? Was it a person? Was it inmate clothing that was being brought up? But something made a movement through the camera and no one can explain it.
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Speaker 3: So people have pointed.
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Speaker 2: To her because she technically was the last person known to have seen Jeffrey Epstein alive.
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Speaker 1: This will never ever go away.
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Speaker 2: Her answer on the orange blob was not satisfying for you, for anybody.
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Speaker 1: I'll take it because I've heard that. Excuse plentyn't me.
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 2: So but here's the deal. We finally got the transcript. We are hearing directly from her in a way we haven't before, where she had to testify under oath to a House committee investigating the investigation of Epstein's death, and we're hearing directly from her. I thought it was fascinating to hear her own words defend her actions and explain what we have seen and trying to put to bed some of the questions surrounding her role in all of it.
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Speaker 1: She answered them. It's just a matter of anybody willing to accept her answers or not. And no one Robes who had an opinion going on into her testimony left that testimony with a change of opinion. It did not sway anyone. It didn't convince anyone. I should say, one way or another.
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Speaker 2: You're probably correct, yes, so first off, and she's obviously said this before, but she under oath denied having any role in Epstein's death. She talked about her life being upended by the threads and conspiracy theories.
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Speaker 3: But let's start with falsifying documents.
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Speaker 2: Why in God's name did she falsify documents saying she had made rounds checking on the inmates when she absolutely did not.
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Speaker 1: Doesn't that make sense? Why she wouldn't lie about something like that. Don't get her wrong. You shouldn't. You should have been doing your job. It's a very important job. Quite frankly, you're surrounded by and so those are be looking after some pretty tough people.
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Speaker 2: Yes, she blames understaffing, she blames lack of training, She blames a lot of things, but I'll give you her exact words. She said, my responsibility to conduct counts and rounds was improperly executed because of severe understaffing, a lack of adequate training and adequate communication between management and frontline correctional officers, and other systemic failures. So basically it was not her fault me.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I mean.
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Speaker 3: That was amazing.
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Speaker 2: She literally took zero responsibility for falsifying documents, wasn't me?
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Speaker 3: I thought that was pretty remarkable.
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Speaker 2: So if it was understaffing, they were so overwhelmed, how then did she have time to spend the majority of the night browsing the internet. That would be my follow up, but not sure that she answered that. She did say that she falsified the records at the beginning of her shift, which I thought was interesting. So she knew she was not going to do her job. She and her partner decided, Hey, we just got on the job, let's go ahead and just write all the rounds that we supposedly made throughout the night, so she claims they falsified it at the beginning, which she says is is a defense to say it had nothing to do with Epstein.
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Speaker 3: It was not a cover up.
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Speaker 2: It wasn't after the fact, it was before anything happened. When she falsified those documents. She says Epstein was alive.
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Speaker 1: Okay, So I love this answer. It's my favorite thing in the entire transcript, because her defense is that I was a bad employee earlier in the evening. It was premeditated to be a crappy employee. It's not so it's not a cover up, Rob. This is an amazing answer. She she literally went to work that night, saying I didn't come here to work.
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Speaker 3: And it wasn't my fault because I wasn't trained.
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Speaker 1: Br This is an incredible read. But that answer, in particular her defense, this is how you know I had nothing to do with the cover up is because I pre planned to not work, being a crappy ass employee.
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Speaker 3: That is absolutely what her defense.
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Speaker 1: This is so good old.
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Speaker 2: Now, so no one checked on any inmates Epstein included for eight full hours.
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Speaker 1: It could have been multiple suicides.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that is pretty remarkable. Okay, So internet searches. She claims she was shopping for furniture online, that's what she was doing. And she said she doesn't remember actually putting in a Google search that said something about Epstein. Prosecutors have said otherwise, But she claims when she was on a homepage or she was while she was googled, like browsing for furniture, she'd see it an Epstein article and she'd click on.
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Speaker 3: It because she was like, oh, yeah, that dude's upstairs.
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Speaker 1: That yeah.
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Speaker 2: So she said, all I did was click on Epstein articles because it was just it would catch my eye while I was shopping for furniture.
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Speaker 1: But can they not tell what you typed into a search versus just what you correct?
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Speaker 2: And she claims her defense is she doesn't recall performing a search on him.
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Speaker 1: She's a that's all she said. He's a good witness.
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Speaker 3: She doesn't recall.
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Speaker 1: She's a good witness.
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Speaker 2: The bank deposits leading up to Epstein's death, let's talk about those.
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Speaker 1: No, that's nothing to talk about. This is going to wrap up quickly.
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Speaker 2: There were several large deposits in the days and weeks leading up to Epstein's death. The most recent one before his death, I believe was ten days before his death.
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Speaker 3: She claims that this is actually I can give you a quote.
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Speaker 2: The source of money has quote nothing to do with Epstein, anyone related to Epstein, involved with Epstein.
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Speaker 3: No one has ever approached, offered, asked.
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Speaker 2: Anything that's concerning my money has nothing to do with Epstein at all. It's solely me and my personal savings. That is a direct quote from her from the transcripts. That sounds so lawyered and so rehearsed.
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Speaker 1: The previous answer one of the first two gave him without a doubt, not missing a beat, hitting very particular words. Yeah, and I'm sure robes. After she gave that answer, there was a to follow up then, to really nail down then if it wasn't related to this, how is a woman of your means depositing these checks? If you don't mind.
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Speaker 3: Us asking, She's just working on her savings.
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Speaker 2: So she said, she personally deposited all the money herself, and this was her savings, and how she does her savings and how she moves money around is her business. She I never saw her reveal the source her savings.
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Speaker 1: But part of this with people were scratching their heads. There were several large deposits that didn't make sense, that didn't go in line with someone on herself.
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Speaker 2: Just like the irs can go through your bank accounts. If you've ever been audited, man, that's a fun experience.
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Speaker 3: Happened to me once. Hope it never happens again.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, they'll literally see, well, this is an anomaly. How did you Where did this money come from? Where is the source of this We need to know where, how and when and why you placed it in this account and what state did it come from. So yeah, they can see things that don't look like the rest of you or financial patterns.
00:10:02
Speaker 1: This was not a part of any pattern she has ever had. Again, all this stuff adds to the conspiracy theories that this is the most talked about conspiracy we have going now. Probably is a conspiracy and it will never go away.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, But maybe when she explains the flash of.
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Speaker 3: Orange, maybe maybe maybe.
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Speaker 2: That could put the conspiracy theorists to uh, well, what they think may have happened, Maybe we can put that to bed.
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Speaker 3: Okay, when we come back, we're gonna tell you what Miss Noel.
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Speaker 2: Said about that flash of orange on that surveillance video that had a lot of people pointing the finger directly at her.
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Speaker 1: All right, we continue here flashes of orange or what we've read. What this is where we are in the Epstein investigations.
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Speaker 2: The prisoners wear orange jumpsuits there at least they did. And so there is an unexplained flash of orange on surveillance video from the camera that was near Epstein's cell that it led to his cell, and it was really the last movement that you could see on that surveillance camera before the guards eventually did their jobs and.
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Speaker 3: Found him unresponsive.
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Speaker 2: So she testified that that flash on the video of orange, I guess they saw it.
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Speaker 3: They can have an exact time. Stant excuse me.
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Speaker 2: Timestamp does not align with the timing of when she did her inmate count, which was much earlier in the evening. As she testified, she falsified that she went and did other rounds when she never did so she said, hey, when that flash of orange is on the camera, I had already done my rounds and I made no rounds after that.
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Speaker 3: So this is what she said.
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Speaker 2: Here was her exact quote about the flash of orange. To be very honest, I don't know what it is, who it is because I never went back to the tier, and I was never carrying anything orange at all, and I never issued anything orange to anyone.
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Speaker 3: In the SAHU.
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Speaker 2: I guess that's the unit, not only not just only Epstein, just anyone. So she's like, wasn't me and I never carried orange clothing anywhere that night?
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Speaker 1: Me, Hey, that's a that's a good line of defense usually.
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Speaker 2: Because yes, now prove otherwise it's impossible to me.
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Speaker 1: And she doesn't have to explain it. She didn't think she's not being held responsible for that, and we call it a blah. We don't know what that thing was, who that was? If it? Are we confirming and everybody is an agreement that is something moving that is a person.
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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people thought that it was because if it was a person, then you would think it would have to be an inmate, because they're the only ones who wear orange. You know, having gone in and done jailhouse interviews, would hoever the color the inmates are wearing, they will tell you as a reporter not.
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Speaker 3: To wear that color to work.
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Speaker 2: I believe that's just so it's never even confusing as to who's walking by or what's being called so I would imagine if there's an orange blob on a person, it would have been a prisoner, which that doesn't make sense because all the prisoners were supposedly locked in their cells at that point. So the only other option would be is if somebody was carrying prison linens.
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Speaker 1: But again, we are all on the same page that we're definitely do we see the making. Is everybody in agreement that that is a human being moving.
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Speaker 3: No, it's just a flash of orange.
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Speaker 2: It could be just someone carry It could be someone carrying inmate uniforms or jumpsuits from the laundry, but you wouldn't be doing it at that time of night. So again, yes, this conspiracy will remain in the ether flash because an orange flash belies what everyone else is saying they did and when they did it.
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Speaker 3: So that's one of the problems.
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Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting she made a very big point to talk about how she's basically been shocked at her continued role in these theories. Right, So she said once she reached deals with a deal with prosecutors, which she and the other guard did to not be prosecuted for falsifying their records, I think they all determined that there was nothing connected to Epstein's death with those records being falsified, so they dropped the charges. She testified, I thought that I would be able to privately rebuild my life and career. Instead, I have consistently been the subject of threats to my life, conspiracy theories, and outrageous rumors impacting my mental and physical health. I have received threats from strangers. I have witnessed strangers pontificate about whether I'm a murderer or that I'll end up dead. I am consistently harassed at my residence, place of employment.
00:14:48
Speaker 3: In emails and on the phone.
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Speaker 2: Every few weeks there is a new article based on a new theory with little to no factual basis. I did think that was it interesting to hear that this is not It seems like, according to her ever gotten better.
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Speaker 3: That she is just constantly harassed.
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Speaker 1: I can believe that because every time things quiet down, then something else comes up. Everything time where it was Glaine Maxwell getting moved and the interviews and that quieted down for a little bit, and then Malania Trump puts it back in the headlines start together. Oh, I forgot about that. So if everything it quiets down a little bit one way or another. It gets thrown back with the suicide note was just in the headlines a short time ago. So yes, every time a new headline, I'm sure there's a new round for her.
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Speaker 2: Uh. Yes, So she had a in her I guess she knew these transcripts were going to get out, so in the as she wrapped up her testimony, she actually made a final plea to the public where she said, I would like to ask the world to allow me to heal and move on with my life. I'm not a criminal. I didn't conspire to cause mister Epstein's death. It is my desire to be left alone. After all of today's interview.
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Speaker 1: Well, I could believe that and understand that that means, I mean, you have to hate it for I don't wish anything, yell upon her, or even want to say why she deserved it, because she didn't do it. No, none of that was her. Yes, she made some missteps that night, I don't think any of those rise to the level of harassment she's going through. Right, if she had done the exact same thing that night and no harm came to anybody, I guess.
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Speaker 3: It wouldn't have mattered.
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Speaker 1: She'd be a bad employee, but it had bigger consequences. Yeah, her being a bad employee had the worst consequences she could possibly She couldn't even come up with that. That somebody died, not just that, and the person that died is at the center of what is an international, high level conspiracy that keeps bringing people down. A guy lost his title of prints over this guy, and she was watching him that night being a bad employee, and here we are, my goodness.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, other than maybe her changing her name and leaving the country.
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Speaker 3: But even still, I mean, like she didn't.
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Speaker 2: Say, she said, I would like to ask the world to allow me to heal. She might feel like there's nowhere she can go where people don't know her name, people who are very tied to this story, and a lot of people feel, I mean very deeply connected to it.
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Speaker 1: She should probably change her name to Tino Rogers instead of Tova Noel, which stands out a little more.
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Speaker 3: It certainly does well.
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Speaker 2: It was fascinating to hear what she had to say under oath, not that it cleared a lot up, but I did feel a big level of sympathy for her that I hadn't before that. It must be tough to be Tova Noel, but she did testify. And I don't know where this House Committee is going with this investigation, if we'll get some sort of analysis or synopsis or what comes of it. But I guess they're trying to be transparent in a story that feels like it's lacking constantly. But we'll continue to keep our eye on any new develop mons, because certainly there will be. I made me Roebock alongside TJ.
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Speaker 3: Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 1: Hey, the folks. It is Sunday, June seventh, and we are now for the first time, getting to hear directly from the controversial guard who was one of the last to see Jeffrey Epstein alive. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Roapes. This is maybe even a name people would recognize because it's a unique name, But this is the one people kept talking about and talking about and talking about, saying, wait a minute, you were just googling some other stuff, where'd all that money come from? Really, this was the one people had questions about. We're hearing from.
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Speaker 2: Her, yes, and so this was incredibly fascinating. We're talking about Tova Noel. She was one of the two prison guards who was on duty the night Jeffrey Epstein died by suicide. And she has been at the center of conspiracy theories. And I say, I'm seeing it in past tens, as are you. But according to her, it happens daily weekly where there's another new conspiracy theory, where there's another article or speculation that involves her role in Jeffrey Epstein's death, and she feels like she can never ever get away from it.
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Speaker 3: She can never clear her name.
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Speaker 1: I'll say, bless our heart. However, Robes, I'm sorry. If she was better at her job that night, she wouldn't be at the center of it. I'm not meaning to be offensive here, but Robes, I understand she doesn't know the full context in the backstory of Epstein and what it would eventually become. But Robes, go just remind people of why it's such a conspiracy theory. Yes, where's all this money coming from? Right? Nobody can explain that. Wait a minute, you were you don't know anything about him? So why are your internet searchers.
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Speaker 3: About Jeffrey Epstein?
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Speaker 1: Yes? Why? And Robes, there were too many Wait a minutes, and oh I was looking somewhere else, and I was googling this and I.
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Speaker 2: Wasn't And she falsified documents and she fully admits shit.
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Speaker 1: So Robes, she will never ever be away from being a part of a conspiracy theory.
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Speaker 3: Sorry, probably not.
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Speaker 2: Everyone who believes that Jeffrey Epstein did not die by suicide will actually have to then believe that she, along with the other guard, had some role in not doing the rounds like they were supposed to, not checking on him like they were supposed to and we'll get to this at the end. But I have always found and anyone who's deeply immersed in this story knows what I'm talking about when I say the orange blob. But her response to what this orange blob was? There was this quick orange blob on the surveillance camera outside of Jeffrey Epstein's cell the night before the night he died, excuse me, And it was really like the last movement basically before he was ultimately found dead. So whoever is responsible for that orange blob? Was it a person? Was it inmate clothing that was being brought up? But something made a movement through the camera and no one can explain it.
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Speaker 3: So people have pointed.
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Speaker 2: To her because she technically was the last person known to have seen Jeffrey Epstein alive.
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Speaker 1: This will never ever go away.
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Speaker 2: Her answer on the orange blob was not satisfying for you, for anybody.
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Speaker 1: I'll take it because I've heard that. Excuse plentyn't me.
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 2: So but here's the deal. We finally got the transcript. We are hearing directly from her in a way we haven't before, where she had to testify under oath to a House committee investigating the investigation of Epstein's death, and we're hearing directly from her. I thought it was fascinating to hear her own words defend her actions and explain what we have seen and trying to put to bed some of the questions surrounding her role in all of it.
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Speaker 1: She answered them. It's just a matter of anybody willing to accept her answers or not. And no one Robes who had an opinion going on into her testimony left that testimony with a change of opinion. It did not sway anyone. It didn't convince anyone. I should say, one way or another.
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Speaker 2: You're probably correct, yes, so first off, and she's obviously said this before, but she under oath denied having any role in Epstein's death. She talked about her life being upended by the threads and conspiracy theories.
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Speaker 3: But let's start with falsifying documents.
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Speaker 2: Why in God's name did she falsify documents saying she had made rounds checking on the inmates when she absolutely did not.
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Speaker 1: Doesn't that make sense? Why she wouldn't lie about something like that. Don't get her wrong. You shouldn't. You should have been doing your job. It's a very important job. Quite frankly, you're surrounded by and so those are be looking after some pretty tough people.
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Speaker 2: Yes, she blames understaffing, she blames lack of training, She blames a lot of things, but I'll give you her exact words. She said, my responsibility to conduct counts and rounds was improperly executed because of severe understaffing, a lack of adequate training and adequate communication between management and frontline correctional officers, and other systemic failures. So basically it was not her fault me.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I mean.
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Speaker 3: That was amazing.
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Speaker 2: She literally took zero responsibility for falsifying documents, wasn't me?
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Speaker 3: I thought that was pretty remarkable.
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Speaker 2: So if it was understaffing, they were so overwhelmed, how then did she have time to spend the majority of the night browsing the internet. That would be my follow up, but not sure that she answered that. She did say that she falsified the records at the beginning of her shift, which I thought was interesting. So she knew she was not going to do her job. She and her partner decided, Hey, we just got on the job, let's go ahead and just write all the rounds that we supposedly made throughout the night, so she claims they falsified it at the beginning, which she says is is a defense to say it had nothing to do with Epstein.
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Speaker 3: It was not a cover up.
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Speaker 2: It wasn't after the fact, it was before anything happened. When she falsified those documents. She says Epstein was alive.
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Speaker 1: Okay, So I love this answer. It's my favorite thing in the entire transcript, because her defense is that I was a bad employee earlier in the evening. It was premeditated to be a crappy employee. It's not so it's not a cover up, Rob. This is an amazing answer. She she literally went to work that night, saying I didn't come here to work.
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Speaker 3: And it wasn't my fault because I wasn't trained.
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Speaker 1: Br This is an incredible read. But that answer, in particular her defense, this is how you know I had nothing to do with the cover up is because I pre planned to not work, being a crappy ass employee.
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Speaker 3: That is absolutely what her defense.
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Speaker 1: This is so good old.
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Speaker 2: Now, so no one checked on any inmates Epstein included for eight full hours.
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Speaker 1: It could have been multiple suicides.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that is pretty remarkable. Okay, So internet searches. She claims she was shopping for furniture online, that's what she was doing. And she said she doesn't remember actually putting in a Google search that said something about Epstein. Prosecutors have said otherwise, But she claims when she was on a homepage or she was while she was googled, like browsing for furniture, she'd see it an Epstein article and she'd click on.
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Speaker 3: It because she was like, oh, yeah, that dude's upstairs.
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Speaker 1: That yeah.
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Speaker 2: So she said, all I did was click on Epstein articles because it was just it would catch my eye while I was shopping for furniture.
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Speaker 1: But can they not tell what you typed into a search versus just what you correct?
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Speaker 2: And she claims her defense is she doesn't recall performing a search on him.
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Speaker 1: She's a that's all she said. He's a good witness.
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Speaker 3: She doesn't recall.
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Speaker 1: She's a good witness.
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Speaker 2: The bank deposits leading up to Epstein's death, let's talk about those.
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Speaker 1: No, that's nothing to talk about. This is going to wrap up quickly.
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Speaker 2: There were several large deposits in the days and weeks leading up to Epstein's death. The most recent one before his death, I believe was ten days before his death.
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Speaker 3: She claims that this is actually I can give you a quote.
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Speaker 2: The source of money has quote nothing to do with Epstein, anyone related to Epstein, involved with Epstein.
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Speaker 3: No one has ever approached, offered, asked.
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Speaker 2: Anything that's concerning my money has nothing to do with Epstein at all. It's solely me and my personal savings. That is a direct quote from her from the transcripts. That sounds so lawyered and so rehearsed.
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Speaker 1: The previous answer one of the first two gave him without a doubt, not missing a beat, hitting very particular words. Yeah, and I'm sure robes. After she gave that answer, there was a to follow up then, to really nail down then if it wasn't related to this, how is a woman of your means depositing these checks? If you don't mind.
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Speaker 3: Us asking, She's just working on her savings.
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Speaker 2: So she said, she personally deposited all the money herself, and this was her savings, and how she does her savings and how she moves money around is her business. She I never saw her reveal the source her savings.
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Speaker 1: But part of this with people were scratching their heads. There were several large deposits that didn't make sense, that didn't go in line with someone on herself.
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Speaker 2: Just like the irs can go through your bank accounts. If you've ever been audited, man, that's a fun experience.
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Speaker 3: Happened to me once. Hope it never happens again.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, they'll literally see, well, this is an anomaly. How did you Where did this money come from? Where is the source of this We need to know where, how and when and why you placed it in this account and what state did it come from. So yeah, they can see things that don't look like the rest of you or financial patterns.
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Speaker 1: This was not a part of any pattern she has ever had. Again, all this stuff adds to the conspiracy theories that this is the most talked about conspiracy we have going now. Probably is a conspiracy and it will never go away.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, But maybe when she explains the flash of.
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Speaker 3: Orange, maybe maybe maybe.
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Speaker 2: That could put the conspiracy theorists to uh, well, what they think may have happened, Maybe we can put that to bed.
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Speaker 3: Okay, when we come back, we're gonna tell you what Miss Noel.
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Speaker 2: Said about that flash of orange on that surveillance video that had a lot of people pointing the finger directly at her.
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Speaker 1: All right, we continue here flashes of orange or what we've read. What this is where we are in the Epstein investigations.
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Speaker 2: The prisoners wear orange jumpsuits there at least they did. And so there is an unexplained flash of orange on surveillance video from the camera that was near Epstein's cell that it led to his cell, and it was really the last movement that you could see on that surveillance camera before the guards eventually did their jobs and.
00:11:23
Speaker 3: Found him unresponsive.
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Speaker 2: So she testified that that flash on the video of orange, I guess they saw it.
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Speaker 3: They can have an exact time. Stant excuse me.
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Speaker 2: Timestamp does not align with the timing of when she did her inmate count, which was much earlier in the evening. As she testified, she falsified that she went and did other rounds when she never did so she said, hey, when that flash of orange is on the camera, I had already done my rounds and I made no rounds after that.
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Speaker 3: So this is what she said.
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Speaker 2: Here was her exact quote about the flash of orange. To be very honest, I don't know what it is, who it is because I never went back to the tier, and I was never carrying anything orange at all, and I never issued anything orange to anyone.
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Speaker 3: In the SAHU.
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Speaker 2: I guess that's the unit, not only not just only Epstein, just anyone. So she's like, wasn't me and I never carried orange clothing anywhere that night?
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Speaker 1: Me, Hey, that's a that's a good line of defense usually.
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Speaker 2: Because yes, now prove otherwise it's impossible to me.
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Speaker 1: And she doesn't have to explain it. She didn't think she's not being held responsible for that, and we call it a blah. We don't know what that thing was, who that was? If it? Are we confirming and everybody is an agreement that is something moving that is a person.
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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people thought that it was because if it was a person, then you would think it would have to be an inmate, because they're the only ones who wear orange. You know, having gone in and done jailhouse interviews, would hoever the color the inmates are wearing, they will tell you as a reporter not.
00:13:04
Speaker 3: To wear that color to work.
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Speaker 2: I believe that's just so it's never even confusing as to who's walking by or what's being called so I would imagine if there's an orange blob on a person, it would have been a prisoner, which that doesn't make sense because all the prisoners were supposedly locked in their cells at that point. So the only other option would be is if somebody was carrying prison linens.
00:13:23
Speaker 1: But again, we are all on the same page that we're definitely do we see the making. Is everybody in agreement that that is a human being moving.
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Speaker 3: No, it's just a flash of orange.
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Speaker 2: It could be just someone carry It could be someone carrying inmate uniforms or jumpsuits from the laundry, but you wouldn't be doing it at that time of night. So again, yes, this conspiracy will remain in the ether flash because an orange flash belies what everyone else is saying they did and when they did it.
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Speaker 3: So that's one of the problems.
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Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting she made a very big point to talk about how she's basically been shocked at her continued role in these theories. Right, So she said once she reached deals with a deal with prosecutors, which she and the other guard did to not be prosecuted for falsifying their records, I think they all determined that there was nothing connected to Epstein's death with those records being falsified, so they dropped the charges. She testified, I thought that I would be able to privately rebuild my life and career. Instead, I have consistently been the subject of threats to my life, conspiracy theories, and outrageous rumors impacting my mental and physical health. I have received threats from strangers. I have witnessed strangers pontificate about whether I'm a murderer or that I'll end up dead. I am consistently harassed at my residence, place of employment.
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Speaker 3: In emails and on the phone.
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Speaker 2: Every few weeks there is a new article based on a new theory with little to no factual basis. I did think that was it interesting to hear that this is not It seems like, according to her ever gotten better.
00:15:08
Speaker 3: That she is just constantly harassed.
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Speaker 1: I can believe that because every time things quiet down, then something else comes up. Everything time where it was Glaine Maxwell getting moved and the interviews and that quieted down for a little bit, and then Malania Trump puts it back in the headlines start together. Oh, I forgot about that. So if everything it quiets down a little bit one way or another. It gets thrown back with the suicide note was just in the headlines a short time ago. So yes, every time a new headline, I'm sure there's a new round for her.
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Speaker 2: Uh. Yes, So she had a in her I guess she knew these transcripts were going to get out, so in the as she wrapped up her testimony, she actually made a final plea to the public where she said, I would like to ask the world to allow me to heal and move on with my life. I'm not a criminal. I didn't conspire to cause mister Epstein's death. It is my desire to be left alone. After all of today's interview.
00:16:02
Speaker 1: Well, I could believe that and understand that that means, I mean, you have to hate it for I don't wish anything, yell upon her, or even want to say why she deserved it, because she didn't do it. No, none of that was her. Yes, she made some missteps that night, I don't think any of those rise to the level of harassment she's going through. Right, if she had done the exact same thing that night and no harm came to anybody, I guess.
00:16:26
Speaker 3: It wouldn't have mattered.
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Speaker 1: She'd be a bad employee, but it had bigger consequences. Yeah, her being a bad employee had the worst consequences she could possibly She couldn't even come up with that. That somebody died, not just that, and the person that died is at the center of what is an international, high level conspiracy that keeps bringing people down. A guy lost his title of prints over this guy, and she was watching him that night being a bad employee, and here we are, my goodness.
00:16:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, other than maybe her changing her name and leaving the country.
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Speaker 3: But even still, I mean, like she didn't.
00:17:03
Speaker 2: Say, she said, I would like to ask the world to allow me to heal. She might feel like there's nowhere she can go where people don't know her name, people who are very tied to this story, and a lot of people feel, I mean very deeply connected to it.
00:17:19
Speaker 1: She should probably change her name to Tino Rogers instead of Tova Noel, which stands out a little more.
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Speaker 3: It certainly does well.
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Speaker 2: It was fascinating to hear what she had to say under oath, not that it cleared a lot up, but I did feel a big level of sympathy for her that I hadn't before that. It must be tough to be Tova Noel, but she did testify. And I don't know where this House Committee is going with this investigation, if we'll get some sort of analysis or synopsis or what comes of it. But I guess they're trying to be transparent in a story that feels like it's lacking constantly. But we'll continue to keep our eye on any new develop mons, because certainly there will be. I made me Roebock alongside TJ.
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Speaker 3: Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.