April 12, 2026
Husband “Likely” To Face Murder Charges After Wife Went Overboard In Bahamas
We are hearing directly from 58-year-old Brian Hooker’s attorney, who says his client was interrogated for more than 3 hours “in relation to causing harm which resulted in his wife’s death.” Police must charge Hooker in connection with the disappearance of Lynette Hooker by Monday evening, or he will be released. Despite a week of searching, Lynette’s body has not been found after her husband said she fell overboard in rough seas. His friends posted purported audio of Brian describing what happened to Lynette and how a “cascade of failures” led to his inability to rescue her.
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Speaker 1: Hey there, everybody.
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Speaker 2: It is Sunday, April twelfth, and fifty eight year old Brian Hooker, the man who has been arrested in connection with the disappearance of his wife, Lynette in the Bahamas, will be helped by Bahamian officials until seven twenty pm tomorrow on Monday.
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Speaker 1: He must be charged.
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Speaker 2: By then or he will be released and without everyone, welcome to this edition of Amy and TJ. We have learned from his attorney that Brian Hooker was interrogated for more than three hours on Friday, and his attorney believes at this point it is very likely that police will ultimately charge him with murder or something close to that effect, something in connection with his wife's disappearance before that deadline.
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Speaker 3: Is he using the word likely?
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Speaker 2: Yes, this attorney's using the word likely likely facing murder charges.
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Speaker 3: Any what else we knew? This is what was happening. We'll wait and I guess the clock is ticking. We'll find out this woman's been missing for a week now, So I guess we're going to find out tomorrow which way they're going to go. I guess it doesn't preclude them from bringing charges later. Even if he's let go so, but still it's an important date.
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Speaker 2: It is a huge date, and certainly all eyes have been on this investigation, and it's different. They obviously do things differently in the Bahamas because you wouldn't typically see or hear someone's defense attorney talk to press the way this guy's doing it. Like he gave us a lot of information about what the police were asking his client, how his client answered those questions. It's a little bit of a head scratcher. I can't imagine that would happen here in the United States.
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Speaker 3: Well, it's a matter of me. He's defending this the only way he know how because his client right now is losing in the one place that it matters for the rest of the world, which is in the press because it all looks bad. So that is where he is I guess right now, holding trial is in the trial of public opinion.
00:02:03
Speaker 1: And that's a good point.
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Speaker 2: He is trying to work the press in that sense, because yes, public opinion, as we know, has a huge impact in a lot of ways, and sometimes it's even influences what a DA decides to do, what a police department decides to do. And so here's what we learned from Hooker's attorney, he said that his client was asked specifically about the couple's relationship and their personal life. And we know there is a lot of history between Brian Hooker and Lynette Hooker when you look at court documents and when you listen to Lynette Hooker's own daughter, she has said very often and repeatedly to many news outlets that this couple had a history of well basically a toxic relationship.
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Speaker 3: It does not they murder or make Still, that's just a part of what's the public opinion. That's a part of the trial this guy's going through right now, before he's ever charged with anything. The entire everybody has an opinion about what they think and what looks bad right now, no matter what their relationship was in the past, and we should note he is denying any involvement in her disappearance, But no matter what their relationship was in the past, it's no evidence of him doing something wrong here. But yes, it will be a part of any investigation.
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Speaker 2: And we heard yes from his attorney that policeius asked about the personal life, asked about the history of the couple, but specifically asked him questions. And this is a quote from the attorney in relation to causing harm which resulted in her death, and yes, he pointed out that his client denied it. And this is so interesting. I'll give you some of the quotes from the attorney about how.
00:03:41
Speaker 1: His client answered those questions.
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Speaker 2: He kept reiterating that I need to know what's happening.
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Speaker 1: What is happening with the search of his wife.
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Speaker 2: He was uncertain as to why they were questioning him about causing harm or possible murder when they had not given him any information where she is and if they had recovered her.
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Speaker 1: But they have not recovered her body.
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Speaker 2: And so is this the possible police ploy to kind of break him down, Because if he doesn't admit to causing her harm, what could the possible proof be. What could possibly be evidence for them to actually formally charge him with murder or something close to murder?
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Speaker 3: Circumstantial as Helle, I've seen it a lot lately, But there can be enough circumstantial evidence. What are there witnesses who saw him and his behavior in some way when he got back. The whole issue with the key, where was the key, Why they don't have a phone, why they didn't take phones with him? It doesn't make sense, and its story that she is swimming off in another direction away from him. They're trying to piece this together, and who knows. Does the boat contain some evidence of a struggle of any kind, Is there any blood in that so? But other than that, who knows.
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Speaker 2: And police have not given any indication that they have any specific evidence that points to direct to some sort of active murder or something something that led to her death, led to her falling out of that boat. But his attorney said, when it comes to Behaming in law, and this is much like the United States, that authorities have to establish intent and the active murder to justify any charge. That's where it seems like obviously if they had that available to them, they would have charged him immediately. They arrested him on Wednesday, I believe according to Behaming in Law, they had forty eight hours to charge him, but if they wanted more time, they could add another ninety six hours to that clock that was ticking. And it seems like they have maximized they have been pushing this timeline as far as they possibly can to try and get that evidence they need to charge him. Forget about even going to court. They just needed to actually charge him.
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Speaker 3: Oh, I might not get there both. This is a no matter what this is, still this is an innocent guy who ooh. No matter how many true crime shows we have seen, none of those mean that this story didn't happen exactly the way the guy said it happened. The reason there's a question is because hmmm, that sounds suspicious. But then the woman's own daughter is talking about she is the one who is suspicious. The guy's friend is talking about he is the one who's suspicious, So they will make you listen. It doesn't mean they're right. It doesn't mean he's guilty of anything. But this is one of those media fascinations robes.
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Speaker 2: It's a media fascination and there's a legal fascination as well, I think on the other side of this, because yes, you point this out if it seems like obviously he would be a likely suspect. His story doesn't make a lot of sense to folks who know the weather and the water and boating and how his version of events doesn't really make a lot of sense. So there's like the in sense aspect of it. But then his friend, his stepdaughter. I haven't heard one person come out and say, Brian Hooker would never do this to his wife.
00:07:11
Speaker 1: He loved his wife.
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Speaker 2: Yes they might have fought, Yes they might have had some issues in the past, but this.
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Speaker 1: Was a couple who deeply loved each other. He would never do that.
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Speaker 2: Have you heard anyone come to Brian Hooker's defense, or at least just in defense of his character at this point.
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Speaker 3: His attorney hasn't even done that, to be honest with you, so and again he could be. It doesn't soften at least as we're learning about this couple. Nothing that has been said has softened your impression that you have gotten based on the facts that we have so far, And none of those facts condemned this man or prove any crime. But ropes, they just add up to things that don't make sense. I think his friend was the one who was best at listing all of these things. And I even thought, wait, I didn't think about that. That doesn't make sense since, oh wait, I didn't think about the key that he said his wife had in her pocket when she went overboard. The key always stays in the ignition of every boat I've ever been on.
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Speaker 2: And so to hear his friend say what he felt was the most likely situation in which she would have ended up with the key in the water is a desperate attempt to try and either stay on the boat or to stop him from leaving her by grabbing the key. This is a woman who knew boats, who knew how to swim, who knew how to.
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Speaker 1: Survive in aquatic location.
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Speaker 2: So she might have had the sense in that moment where she is fighting for her life if that is what ended up happening, if there was a scuffle on the boat to grab that key, she might have thought that was a way for her to prevent him from leaving and perhaps from her to actually be able to survive this thing in the water.
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Speaker 3: I didn't think about that. Oh yeah, by the way, you hear somebody off and off on the water, you're like, wow, I know it gets dark out there. Actually it wasn't dark yet. They still it was not pitch black in the middle of the night when this took place. This woman also they had a boat, another one they were trying to get to. If she falls immediately out of an eight foot dinghy that's right there next to her, why is she swimming off in another direction? Which is what he told his friend, she did she went swim wait, she went swimming or way boat away from the dinghy. She just fell out where there's our husband who could help her back into it.
00:09:33
Speaker 2: And so the only way that makes sense is if she was afraid of her husband. If she was afraid of what would happen to her if she got back into that dinghy.
00:09:41
Speaker 1: So if it is.
00:09:42
Speaker 2: True what he told his friend in the hours after that initial when she disappeared, if she really was swimming towards the boat, that would mean she was swimming away from him. That would not make sense unless you wanted to get away from him.
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Speaker 3: None of these things a guilty man makes. But they just don't make sense. And when you have friends, when you have family raising questions, when you have them telling stories about an explosive or even sometimes in the past has been a documented violent relationship at times between these two, then you pay attention, You listen, and I guess tomorrow seven o'clock in all the important time to see where this case goes.
00:10:23
Speaker 1: That's right.
00:10:24
Speaker 2: But when we come back, we're going to tell you we mentioned that we haven't heard someone come out and vehemently stand by Brian Hooker or say this is a guy who would never do this. But what we do have if you've been following this case closely, some of his friends posted recordings of a phone call they said they had with him the day after his wife went missing. We'll tell you what they claim Brian Hooker said about what happened that night. Welcome back, everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ, where we continue to follow the latest developments on the investigation into fifty eight year old Brian Hooker. He is being held in connection with his wife's disappearance, fifty five year old Lynnette. She, according to him, fell off a dinghy near sunset as they were making their way back to a sailboat.
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Speaker 1: They are both.
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Speaker 2: Skilled on the waters, skilled in boating, and she was apparently an excellent swimmer. She has not been found and police are now and have just interrogated Brian Hooker for more than three hours, according to his attorney, but they must charge him by seven twenty pm tomorrow Monday evening, or he will be let go.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: Friends of Brian posted to YouTube a phone call they say they had with him, And in that phone call you hear the man who they say is Brian Hooker talk about his wife and say, this is a quote. She basically just bounce off the dinghy amid winds around twenty miles per hour.
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Speaker 1: He said, we weren't wearing life jackets. It was sundown.
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Speaker 2: The sun set basically ten minutes after she fell over, and that's questionable because if it was still light, it's there are so many questions. If he could paddle to shore, why couldn't he paddle towards her.
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Speaker 3: Hey that the argument is that they got separated, right the current carried her off some direction. That is his story, and he is so far sticking to it.
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Speaker 2: So he said, the winds blew us apart so fast. I think she tried to swim back to the sailboat. So he did also say that same story to his friends back to our sailboat, which was probably a thousand yards away. I had no idea they were that close to their boat, because the description was that they were leaving a port that they had obviously gone to for the day, and we're taking the dinghy back to their sailboat.
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Speaker 1: I didn't realize they were so close to their sailboat.
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Speaker 2: But again, why would she swim towards the sailboat versus towards the dingy.
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Speaker 3: Wait, he's saying.
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Speaker 2: What In the voicemail, he says, I think she tried to swim back to the sailboat.
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Speaker 1: I think, which.
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Speaker 2: Was probably I don't know, one thousand yards away or something.
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Speaker 1: But the waves were three foot.
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Speaker 3: I think he said, yep, I think. So that's what he thought. Where did he go? Didn't he go back to shore? In the dingy?
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Speaker 1: He did? Why would he not have gone back to it?
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Speaker 3: If you're thinking she isn't that the closer place to the shore than the shore, maybe I would? This makes zero, say this is why it's No, This doesn't make it.
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Speaker 2: He said that there was a cascade of failures and it's something I'm never going to forgive myself for.
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Speaker 1: He said.
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Speaker 2: One of the failures was that one of his oars broke. He had anchoring issues and had no flares, So he's saying he didn't have any of the tools that would have helped him get to his wife. He said that he yelled for her, that he threw out a flotation cushion, but he couldn't tell if he if she was able to grab it or not. Again, if the sun had not set yet, the sun hadn't set for ten minutes. In those ten minutes, you couldn't see whether or not your wife got the flotation device.
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Speaker 1: Nothing, he says, makes sense.
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Speaker 3: Three foot Waight, now a three foot wave. I'm trying to understand. You can't see something right next to you. If a wave he said three feet, he didn't say thirty.
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Speaker 1: He's three three foot waves.
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Speaker 3: Okay, Look, this is making less and less sense, and a cascade of failures ropes. All those things just happened to go wrong, and when this other thing that likely didn't happen happened, there's a cascade of like there's too many coincidences.
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Speaker 2: It's like everything had to go wrong, and we're talking multiple, multiple things had to be wrong for his story to add.
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Speaker 3: Up one hundred one thousand feet distance. Then we'll meet back at the boat. A thousand feet is hard to swim, no matter what. I'm not taking that away, but Rodes, what we're talking about doesn't make any sense.
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Speaker 2: He claims he had an anchor failure. Why is he focused on anchoring his boat? He said, by the time he got the anchor set, he ended up about a quarter to a half mile away from her with a dingy, and then and then the tide carried him out.
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Speaker 3: What okay, look, I don't pretend and to understand all this, but rose is just yes, okay, fine, we are not all master boaters, seamen. Fine, but common sense. We've been on a boat before. We won't excuse me. Let's call it what it is. This was a small raft type situation. She didn't fall overboard from some big yacht. You're right next to me in this little dingy. I watch you go right overboard in this little dingy. I have a moment to get I have a moment to react before You're so far away I can't even see you, is what he is arguing. He's not saying he took his back, was turned and he didn't realize she'd going overboard. That makes less in let you're telling me in a split second, you couldn't see her.
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Speaker 2: And this is why he was interrogated for more than three hours.
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Speaker 1: It is the reason why he is under arrest.
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Speaker 2: And we shall see if police can put enough things together to make enough sense to get a murder charge, which again his lawyer is saying is likely to happen tomorrow. This is a fascinating story. Apparently, according to his attorney, he was crying, he was emotional, he was distressed during the entire interrogation. But we'll see what his demeanor is if and when police do end up charging him with murder.
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Speaker 3: I want to leave room robes, Yes, I want to leave for this being a completely innocent guy and this is an awful, awful thing that happened to him. But it's okay. At the same time, Look, he's he's in custody. It's not us questioning his story, it's authorities doing so.
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Speaker 2: That is correct, and we will continue to follow any new developments, but there were several over the past couple of days we wanted to catch you up on before this deadline approaches tomorrow Monday, seven twenty pm Eastern time. And with that, everyone, thank you so much for listening to us. We always appreciate you. I'm Amy Roebuck alongside TJ. Holmes.
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Speaker 1: We will talk to you soon.
Speaker 1: Hey there, everybody.
00:00:03
Speaker 2: It is Sunday, April twelfth, and fifty eight year old Brian Hooker, the man who has been arrested in connection with the disappearance of his wife, Lynette in the Bahamas, will be helped by Bahamian officials until seven twenty pm tomorrow on Monday.
00:00:22
Speaker 1: He must be charged.
00:00:23
Speaker 2: By then or he will be released and without everyone, welcome to this edition of Amy and TJ. We have learned from his attorney that Brian Hooker was interrogated for more than three hours on Friday, and his attorney believes at this point it is very likely that police will ultimately charge him with murder or something close to that effect, something in connection with his wife's disappearance before that deadline.
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Speaker 3: Is he using the word likely?
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Speaker 2: Yes, this attorney's using the word likely likely facing murder charges.
00:00:56
Speaker 3: Any what else we knew? This is what was happening. We'll wait and I guess the clock is ticking. We'll find out this woman's been missing for a week now, So I guess we're going to find out tomorrow which way they're going to go. I guess it doesn't preclude them from bringing charges later. Even if he's let go so, but still it's an important date.
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Speaker 2: It is a huge date, and certainly all eyes have been on this investigation, and it's different. They obviously do things differently in the Bahamas because you wouldn't typically see or hear someone's defense attorney talk to press the way this guy's doing it. Like he gave us a lot of information about what the police were asking his client, how his client answered those questions. It's a little bit of a head scratcher. I can't imagine that would happen here in the United States.
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Speaker 3: Well, it's a matter of me. He's defending this the only way he know how because his client right now is losing in the one place that it matters for the rest of the world, which is in the press because it all looks bad. So that is where he is I guess right now, holding trial is in the trial of public opinion.
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Speaker 1: And that's a good point.
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Speaker 2: He is trying to work the press in that sense, because yes, public opinion, as we know, has a huge impact in a lot of ways, and sometimes it's even influences what a DA decides to do, what a police department decides to do. And so here's what we learned from Hooker's attorney, he said that his client was asked specifically about the couple's relationship and their personal life. And we know there is a lot of history between Brian Hooker and Lynette Hooker when you look at court documents and when you listen to Lynette Hooker's own daughter, she has said very often and repeatedly to many news outlets that this couple had a history of well basically a toxic relationship.
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Speaker 3: It does not they murder or make Still, that's just a part of what's the public opinion. That's a part of the trial this guy's going through right now, before he's ever charged with anything. The entire everybody has an opinion about what they think and what looks bad right now, no matter what their relationship was in the past, and we should note he is denying any involvement in her disappearance, But no matter what their relationship was in the past, it's no evidence of him doing something wrong here. But yes, it will be a part of any investigation.
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Speaker 2: And we heard yes from his attorney that policeius asked about the personal life, asked about the history of the couple, but specifically asked him questions. And this is a quote from the attorney in relation to causing harm which resulted in her death, and yes, he pointed out that his client denied it. And this is so interesting. I'll give you some of the quotes from the attorney about how.
00:03:41
Speaker 1: His client answered those questions.
00:03:44
Speaker 2: He kept reiterating that I need to know what's happening.
00:03:48
Speaker 1: What is happening with the search of his wife.
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Speaker 2: He was uncertain as to why they were questioning him about causing harm or possible murder when they had not given him any information where she is and if they had recovered her.
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Speaker 1: But they have not recovered her body.
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Speaker 2: And so is this the possible police ploy to kind of break him down, Because if he doesn't admit to causing her harm, what could the possible proof be. What could possibly be evidence for them to actually formally charge him with murder or something close to murder?
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Speaker 3: Circumstantial as Helle, I've seen it a lot lately, But there can be enough circumstantial evidence. What are there witnesses who saw him and his behavior in some way when he got back. The whole issue with the key, where was the key, Why they don't have a phone, why they didn't take phones with him? It doesn't make sense, and its story that she is swimming off in another direction away from him. They're trying to piece this together, and who knows. Does the boat contain some evidence of a struggle of any kind, Is there any blood in that so? But other than that, who knows.
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Speaker 2: And police have not given any indication that they have any specific evidence that points to direct to some sort of active murder or something something that led to her death, led to her falling out of that boat. But his attorney said, when it comes to Behaming in law, and this is much like the United States, that authorities have to establish intent and the active murder to justify any charge. That's where it seems like obviously if they had that available to them, they would have charged him immediately. They arrested him on Wednesday, I believe according to Behaming in Law, they had forty eight hours to charge him, but if they wanted more time, they could add another ninety six hours to that clock that was ticking. And it seems like they have maximized they have been pushing this timeline as far as they possibly can to try and get that evidence they need to charge him. Forget about even going to court. They just needed to actually charge him.
00:05:52
Speaker 3: Oh, I might not get there both. This is a no matter what this is, still this is an innocent guy who ooh. No matter how many true crime shows we have seen, none of those mean that this story didn't happen exactly the way the guy said it happened. The reason there's a question is because hmmm, that sounds suspicious. But then the woman's own daughter is talking about she is the one who is suspicious. The guy's friend is talking about he is the one who's suspicious, So they will make you listen. It doesn't mean they're right. It doesn't mean he's guilty of anything. But this is one of those media fascinations robes.
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Speaker 2: It's a media fascination and there's a legal fascination as well, I think on the other side of this, because yes, you point this out if it seems like obviously he would be a likely suspect. His story doesn't make a lot of sense to folks who know the weather and the water and boating and how his version of events doesn't really make a lot of sense. So there's like the in sense aspect of it. But then his friend, his stepdaughter. I haven't heard one person come out and say, Brian Hooker would never do this to his wife.
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Speaker 1: He loved his wife.
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Speaker 2: Yes they might have fought, Yes they might have had some issues in the past, but this.
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Speaker 1: Was a couple who deeply loved each other. He would never do that.
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Speaker 2: Have you heard anyone come to Brian Hooker's defense, or at least just in defense of his character at this point.
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Speaker 3: His attorney hasn't even done that, to be honest with you, so and again he could be. It doesn't soften at least as we're learning about this couple. Nothing that has been said has softened your impression that you have gotten based on the facts that we have so far, And none of those facts condemned this man or prove any crime. But ropes, they just add up to things that don't make sense. I think his friend was the one who was best at listing all of these things. And I even thought, wait, I didn't think about that. That doesn't make sense since, oh wait, I didn't think about the key that he said his wife had in her pocket when she went overboard. The key always stays in the ignition of every boat I've ever been on.
00:08:10
Speaker 2: And so to hear his friend say what he felt was the most likely situation in which she would have ended up with the key in the water is a desperate attempt to try and either stay on the boat or to stop him from leaving her by grabbing the key. This is a woman who knew boats, who knew how to swim, who knew how to.
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Speaker 1: Survive in aquatic location.
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Speaker 2: So she might have had the sense in that moment where she is fighting for her life if that is what ended up happening, if there was a scuffle on the boat to grab that key, she might have thought that was a way for her to prevent him from leaving and perhaps from her to actually be able to survive this thing in the water.
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Speaker 3: I didn't think about that. Oh yeah, by the way, you hear somebody off and off on the water, you're like, wow, I know it gets dark out there. Actually it wasn't dark yet. They still it was not pitch black in the middle of the night when this took place. This woman also they had a boat, another one they were trying to get to. If she falls immediately out of an eight foot dinghy that's right there next to her, why is she swimming off in another direction? Which is what he told his friend, she did she went swim wait, she went swimming or way boat away from the dinghy. She just fell out where there's our husband who could help her back into it.
00:09:33
Speaker 2: And so the only way that makes sense is if she was afraid of her husband. If she was afraid of what would happen to her if she got back into that dinghy.
00:09:41
Speaker 1: So if it is.
00:09:42
Speaker 2: True what he told his friend in the hours after that initial when she disappeared, if she really was swimming towards the boat, that would mean she was swimming away from him. That would not make sense unless you wanted to get away from him.
00:09:57
Speaker 3: None of these things a guilty man makes. But they just don't make sense. And when you have friends, when you have family raising questions, when you have them telling stories about an explosive or even sometimes in the past has been a documented violent relationship at times between these two, then you pay attention, You listen, and I guess tomorrow seven o'clock in all the important time to see where this case goes.
00:10:23
Speaker 1: That's right.
00:10:24
Speaker 2: But when we come back, we're going to tell you we mentioned that we haven't heard someone come out and vehemently stand by Brian Hooker or say this is a guy who would never do this. But what we do have if you've been following this case closely, some of his friends posted recordings of a phone call they said they had with him the day after his wife went missing. We'll tell you what they claim Brian Hooker said about what happened that night. Welcome back, everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ, where we continue to follow the latest developments on the investigation into fifty eight year old Brian Hooker. He is being held in connection with his wife's disappearance, fifty five year old Lynnette. She, according to him, fell off a dinghy near sunset as they were making their way back to a sailboat.
00:11:23
Speaker 1: They are both.
00:11:24
Speaker 2: Skilled on the waters, skilled in boating, and she was apparently an excellent swimmer. She has not been found and police are now and have just interrogated Brian Hooker for more than three hours, according to his attorney, but they must charge him by seven twenty pm tomorrow Monday evening, or he will be let go.
00:11:46
Speaker 1: Now.
00:11:46
Speaker 2: Friends of Brian posted to YouTube a phone call they say they had with him, And in that phone call you hear the man who they say is Brian Hooker talk about his wife and say, this is a quote. She basically just bounce off the dinghy amid winds around twenty miles per hour.
00:12:07
Speaker 1: He said, we weren't wearing life jackets. It was sundown.
00:12:11
Speaker 2: The sun set basically ten minutes after she fell over, and that's questionable because if it was still light, it's there are so many questions. If he could paddle to shore, why couldn't he paddle towards her.
00:12:24
Speaker 3: Hey that the argument is that they got separated, right the current carried her off some direction. That is his story, and he is so far sticking to it.
00:12:33
Speaker 2: So he said, the winds blew us apart so fast. I think she tried to swim back to the sailboat. So he did also say that same story to his friends back to our sailboat, which was probably a thousand yards away. I had no idea they were that close to their boat, because the description was that they were leaving a port that they had obviously gone to for the day, and we're taking the dinghy back to their sailboat.
00:12:58
Speaker 1: I didn't realize they were so close to their sailboat.
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Speaker 2: But again, why would she swim towards the sailboat versus towards the dingy.
00:13:05
Speaker 3: Wait, he's saying.
00:13:06
Speaker 2: What In the voicemail, he says, I think she tried to swim back to the sailboat.
00:13:11
Speaker 1: I think, which.
00:13:12
Speaker 2: Was probably I don't know, one thousand yards away or something.
00:13:16
Speaker 1: But the waves were three foot.
00:13:17
Speaker 3: I think he said, yep, I think. So that's what he thought. Where did he go? Didn't he go back to shore? In the dingy?
00:13:25
Speaker 1: He did? Why would he not have gone back to it?
00:13:27
Speaker 3: If you're thinking she isn't that the closer place to the shore than the shore, maybe I would? This makes zero, say this is why it's No, This doesn't make it.
00:13:37
Speaker 2: He said that there was a cascade of failures and it's something I'm never going to forgive myself for.
00:13:44
Speaker 1: He said.
00:13:44
Speaker 2: One of the failures was that one of his oars broke. He had anchoring issues and had no flares, So he's saying he didn't have any of the tools that would have helped him get to his wife. He said that he yelled for her, that he threw out a flotation cushion, but he couldn't tell if he if she was able to grab it or not. Again, if the sun had not set yet, the sun hadn't set for ten minutes. In those ten minutes, you couldn't see whether or not your wife got the flotation device.
00:14:17
Speaker 1: Nothing, he says, makes sense.
00:14:18
Speaker 3: Three foot Waight, now a three foot wave. I'm trying to understand. You can't see something right next to you. If a wave he said three feet, he didn't say thirty.
00:14:27
Speaker 1: He's three three foot waves.
00:14:30
Speaker 3: Okay, Look, this is making less and less sense, and a cascade of failures ropes. All those things just happened to go wrong, and when this other thing that likely didn't happen happened, there's a cascade of like there's too many coincidences.
00:14:43
Speaker 2: It's like everything had to go wrong, and we're talking multiple, multiple things had to be wrong for his story to add.
00:14:49
Speaker 3: Up one hundred one thousand feet distance. Then we'll meet back at the boat. A thousand feet is hard to swim, no matter what. I'm not taking that away, but Rodes, what we're talking about doesn't make any sense.
00:14:59
Speaker 2: He claims he had an anchor failure. Why is he focused on anchoring his boat? He said, by the time he got the anchor set, he ended up about a quarter to a half mile away from her with a dingy, and then and then the tide carried him out.
00:15:13
Speaker 3: What okay, look, I don't pretend and to understand all this, but rose is just yes, okay, fine, we are not all master boaters, seamen. Fine, but common sense. We've been on a boat before. We won't excuse me. Let's call it what it is. This was a small raft type situation. She didn't fall overboard from some big yacht. You're right next to me in this little dingy. I watch you go right overboard in this little dingy. I have a moment to get I have a moment to react before You're so far away I can't even see you, is what he is arguing. He's not saying he took his back, was turned and he didn't realize she'd going overboard. That makes less in let you're telling me in a split second, you couldn't see her.
00:16:07
Speaker 2: And this is why he was interrogated for more than three hours.
00:16:10
Speaker 1: It is the reason why he is under arrest.
00:16:13
Speaker 2: And we shall see if police can put enough things together to make enough sense to get a murder charge, which again his lawyer is saying is likely to happen tomorrow. This is a fascinating story. Apparently, according to his attorney, he was crying, he was emotional, he was distressed during the entire interrogation. But we'll see what his demeanor is if and when police do end up charging him with murder.
00:16:39
Speaker 3: I want to leave room robes, Yes, I want to leave for this being a completely innocent guy and this is an awful, awful thing that happened to him. But it's okay. At the same time, Look, he's he's in custody. It's not us questioning his story, it's authorities doing so.
00:16:53
Speaker 2: That is correct, and we will continue to follow any new developments, but there were several over the past couple of days we wanted to catch you up on before this deadline approaches tomorrow Monday, seven twenty pm Eastern time. And with that, everyone, thank you so much for listening to us. We always appreciate you. I'm Amy Roebuck alongside TJ. Holmes.
00:17:12
Speaker 1: We will talk to you soon.
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