Gavin Rossdale: He Cooks, He Sings, And Has Life Changing Advice.

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Speaker 1: Hey, that folks. It is Sunday, May twenty fourth, and we shit you not.

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Speaker 2: This is our favorite guest we have ever had on the Amy and TJ podcast and he is back now for another run. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Robes. We got to set up the background noise here and make sure we let people know where we are.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we are backstage at Bottle Rock here in Napa Valley. And this has been an incredible couple of days here listening to amazing artists and watching this is cool.

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Speaker 4: It's not just about the music, it's about the food. So you've got some culinary.

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Speaker 3: Geniuses as well taking to the stage and this has just been a blast. But to know that one of our favorite, no i'm sorry, our absolute favorite guests we're blowing here.

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Speaker 4: It's going to be here as well.

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Speaker 3: And we're not because you know what, Gavin Rossdale, and we're talking about him like he's not sitting right across from us.

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Speaker 1: He's listening.

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Speaker 4: He's probably feeling a little operat right now. It's getting as we're describing him. No, he's right there.

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Speaker 3: Stop it some more, right, Please don't stop on my behalf. But no, I think you just make us feel cooler to be in your presence.

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Speaker 4: Among many other things.

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Speaker 5: You guys are very cool.

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Speaker 3: Oh see just that that was a cool thing. But no, we are huge fans. Since we talked about two years ago. When you first came on the podcast, we had an instant connection with you, just.

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Speaker 4: Immediately kind of fell in love with you.

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Speaker 3: And then we got to see you perform and TJ looked at me when we went to go see you perform.

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Speaker 4: With Bush and he was like, damn, he really is a rock star.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, rockstar ever met?

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Speaker 2: Do you still enjoy, appreciate, embrace that label you are a rock star?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Well, thank you so much.

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Speaker 6: First off, thank you for the intro, and I love you guys too, and I was very excited to come and talk to you.

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Speaker 5: So the feeling is MITCHO, I like to.

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Speaker 6: Think of myself as a like I couldn't refer to myself as that like. I don't know if you know I had a cooking show. I have a cooking show Dinner with Avam Rossto and one when we first had it that the original idea of order to get money was they had rock star in the title rock Star in the kitchen. Terrible title, right, And I was like, I was like, the thing is is that you can be referred to as a rock star, but you cannot refer to yourself. That's a weird one, that's super weird. I feel like I'm a working musician, that's my title. So that but so it's a wonderful compliment. But so no, I don't see myself as that. But I do like the idea of being a rock star because it just brings joy to people.

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Speaker 5: List people up. You know.

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Speaker 6: We played here yesterday, had a wonderful show, and I walked over one of the guys who runs the event. I said, you know, it's been so great to have rock bands back. And I said, well, this isn't isn't in the title, you know, bottle rock, you know. So he had us and Papa roach, he goes in your set was fantastic because we've never seen such movement between the stages when we played.

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Speaker 5: We played on the other stage.

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Speaker 6: And when I first went over there, I've gotta be honest, I saw and I looked a bit sparse to the one side, and I fans feel slightly sad for myself inside.

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Speaker 5: I was like, damn. Why we always going to work so hot?

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Speaker 6: And then before we went on the search of people, and when we went out, there was.

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Speaker 5: No space and I went out in the crowd. I was out.

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Speaker 6: I went up onto the stands, I was everywhere, and it was packed and an incredible atmosphere.

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Speaker 5: It was really fun. You know.

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Speaker 3: It's it's cool because there are so many stages here, and I know exactly what you're saying. All of a sudden, it looks like there are many people, and then people start hearing the music, they hear you singing, and they start rushing to that stage because maybe they were at another stage.

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Speaker 4: So it's cool to see all the movement. But what's even more.

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Speaker 3: Impressive is you were on stage, rocking it out, bringing joy to folks, and now today you're on stage cooking like that is kind of I don't know. I don't think it gets cooler than that, to be able to perform and be a chef so to speak, on stage for everyone to enjoy.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I have such a kinship with cooking.

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Speaker 6: I know that you're a great cook as well, but it's just such a you know, elemental sauce that we need food right, and it's just the best time to break bread.

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Speaker 5: And it's such a wonderful thing.

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Speaker 6: You seduce people with food and flavor and the way it looks, and and so I did it first. Last year was Chef Simmon. He had a dungeoness crab. I made crabbling Guini on stage and bless you. And today I'm cooking with Chef Anthony, handsome Chef Anthony as I called him because I saw his picture and he's he's a very good looking chef and we're gonna have a really good time. And it's just it's it's good fun. I cooked last week at Stagecoach. I cooked with Guy Fieri or for Guy Fieri and had a wonderful time cooking there. And yeah, it's a funny thing. People are surprised that I can cook. Feels are surprised. I like being surprising.

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Speaker 3: Because most rock stars have people cook for them, right, I would imagine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what else would somebody be surprised about you? Your I don't know, some character trait, some hobby you have that they don't think goes with a rock star.

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Speaker 1: You like to cook?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well, the cooking is one thing I'm like, like you with a running I am the same with tennis.

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Speaker 1: Tennis.

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Speaker 5: Did you know this?

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Speaker 1: I did not?

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Speaker 5: Tennis.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I play like when I'm well on the road, I play like maybe three times a week at home, like four times a week proper training.

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Speaker 5: Serious. Yeah, And I'm at the point in my life now where giving up. I don't. It's not about winning for me anymore. I just try.

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Speaker 6: Much like my skiing, I just want to look stylish because if you get the if you get the technique right, if your form is good, generally you're pretty good. So all I care about is really look good playing And it sounds a bit vain, but it still mean that you get the better. Like when you run with great technique, you gotta run properly. So it's all about a technique.

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Speaker 3: That that's an honest answer and a real answer. It's the look good, feel good method, and then to do good like I do.

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Speaker 1: Agree.

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Speaker 3: For instance, before we run a race, we usually go and get a brand new running outfit. We have the shoes, like I was making sure my top match my shoes pulled together with my shorts, and then I felt better at the race because I knew I looked the party.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to admit to that but I'm the same way.

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Speaker 6: There is a chance that I actually I hook up the Nike's so good that I actually look better.

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Speaker 5: Than I am. I'm in danger that they'll go to rocket bag and with a damn. I'll tell you. I'll tell you good story.

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Speaker 6: When I was in Sweden and I you know, when I'm on tour, I play wherever I go. I ring up local clubs in advance, and I asked to play with their pro.

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Speaker 5: So I play with pros and every club or colleges.

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Speaker 6: I played with lots of D one players across America.

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Speaker 5: That's what I like to do. But we were in Sweden.

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Speaker 6: It was fantastic because I stayed at the same hotel where the Swedish Open was happening, right, so when I went to breakfast, it was all the top.

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Speaker 5: Players in the world, so I was giddy.

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Speaker 6: But what was a little embarrassing is that I had my racket back because I was going to go play at a different club. So I'm having breakfast there's literally top ten players in the world, so I'm like, jeez, I feel a bit of a dog. But sitting having a quiet breakfast and a couple of eggs before I going to go play. And when I walked out of the hotel, they have the cars for the tournament.

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Speaker 5: So I got an uber to go to my club. So my uber's on the you.

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Speaker 6: Know, to fifty feet away parked, but the tournament car the boot pop dunk when I come through the door, because he thinks I'm going to go play.

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Speaker 5: Like not today, I'm going to go train secretly somewhere else.

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Speaker 1: Say that is what a compliment you want? Yeah? Looking serious enough?

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Speaker 6: Oh no, I mean I love I look legit like I'm a look I legit looked like I'm a really good coach.

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Speaker 4: That's amazing.

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Speaker 3: We actually ran a half marathon in Stockholm this past year, so we fell in love with Sweden.

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Speaker 4: That's so cool.

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Speaker 3: It was an amazing way to see Stockholm and so we got to go thirteen point one miles all around the city, got really immersed into.

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Speaker 4: We were the only Americans. When we went to go get our bibs.

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Speaker 3: They were like, whoa what you came all the way from America around this.

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Speaker 1: We're like, yep, we sure did.

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Speaker 4: And it was fantastic. We fell in love with the Swedish culture.

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Speaker 2: We loved and you know what I should say is why that we ran that when I wasn't It wasn't the best physically for me. But this is we said at the top that you are our favorite guest and we were not just kidding there, and there's a reason for that.

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Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 2: When we talked to you was in twenty twenty four. We weren't too far removed from a lot of shit we went through public and for whatever reason, man, you've been through plenty of shit when it comes to tabloids publicly, there was just immediately we all relaxed in that room for some and we that she said that so many times.

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Speaker 1: He relaxed because we were relaxing.

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Speaker 2: All he knew were not after him. And that meant so much to us at the time to have you in some way as a friend in some way. And I'm telling you, man, that is really why we say that, and we mean it, and we talk about the running. After I was injured in Chicago, one of the first people I heard from was Gavin Rossdale saying to me, hey, man, I see you got hurt. Hope you're okay. And so I want to just say to people here are listening. We're not just saying that to blow smoke because you're in front of us. It meant something to us that first, that first interaction we had, so we.

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Speaker 6: Mean and I was inquiring about your your achilles today. Yeah, first thing is all going well.

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Speaker 5: I mean why nowadays? Are you just going back too soon?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Sorry, I jumped in.

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Speaker 2: I can't stop running long enough for it to completely heal because I want to keep running.

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Speaker 1: And that's my problem right now.

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Speaker 6: You know what I'm obsessed with. And do you use them to use ice baths?

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Speaker 1: I don't do ice baths.

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Speaker 5: How can you tell me your runners you don't do ice baths? Wow? I mean you lost your minds.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 6: We got to get you an ice bath. I have an ice bath after every show. I have an ice bath every day. I have a little one backstage. I sitting with all the in the backstage is really beautiful setup. But where our wardrobe case was and my bath isn't it?

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Speaker 5: Well I'll show you.

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Speaker 6: Joanna's here, my girlfriend, and she has pictures me in the ice bath after the show. Saved my life and especially my achilles. I used to have a lot of problems with my achilles between tennis and bouncing around the stage. You know, I'd have that sort of victory walk, that victory hobble. You know you had a good show and he's doing the hobble. This ice baths changed my life.

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Speaker 1: How long do you sit in it?

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Speaker 5: Three minutes? And at the home it's a forty two.

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Speaker 6: Degrees, which is brutal. But I still can do it. But it's brutal. I mean, it's not enjoyable, but it will change your life. That's be the greatest gift I could give you.

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Speaker 4: Wow, I've done now, do you know?

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Speaker 6: I mean, I'm my mind is and if it was today, it was yesterday, I would make you come back and get in my ice bath. I'd be like, dude, suck it up. I actually do singing scales because it's so hard. I do singing scales in the bath, in the in the ice bath. It's so hard if you sit there trying to tough it out. When I first did it, I was like, good for ten seconds. It's such a mind game that fuck you up.

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Speaker 5: Okay, but you got to get that. I mean you're in New York.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yes, we obviously are getting a nice You've got to get you have to.

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Speaker 4: The same as cryo therapy, basically way.

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Speaker 6: Better I don't wait better, way better, way better. Because I did cry therapy when I was on tour in Germany, and it's interesting and stuff like that.

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Speaker 5: You stand up right and you know.

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Speaker 6: But but no, the ice bath for running as I cannot, You're gonna be so grateful, you're gonna do you feel like twenty years younger, it was like you haven't run. It'd be like you have not run. If you put that ice bath every day game, do you put.

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Speaker 4: Your entire body in?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I go up to here, Yeah, I kind of. I don't. I try and keep the calluses on my fingers and it's really hard.

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Speaker 4: For the guitar playing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and so I keep my hands out, but I go to here. It's brutal. I hate it. I hate it until I get out. It's absolutely every I finished tennis. After tennis, I do ice bath, after doing performances.

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Speaker 5: Ice bath. I do ice bath every day, just when I'm home.

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Speaker 4: That's remarkable.

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Speaker 3: Look, I've done a couple of polar plunges in my life, and so I know what you mean in terms of when you get out. You're like, I cannot believe how invigorated and a live I feel. But I never imagine doing it on a daily basis.

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Speaker 5: It will change your life. Okay, I know where do you live? In an apartment or in a house parm in it's only where you could put it.

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Speaker 4: You know, we have so you actually have a mobile ice.

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Speaker 6: So I've got an im mobile one and it's a bougie one. It's like it's a bath and it's just as sits there permanently, which is not convenient. But you can get them on the road. I traveled completely inexpensive. They just fill it with ice. It's like ten bags of ice, so that you know, you should try it in your bath. You know, get ice delivered from door, dash or something.

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Speaker 1: We're doing this, oh this, I swear doing this.

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Speaker 6: You want you really below fifty. Between forty five and fifty is best. Thirty is, twenty eight is where it's freeze.

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Speaker 5: It's just too much.

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Speaker 6: Forty two is brutal, but forty five not over fifty.

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Speaker 5: Don't go for it.

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Speaker 1: I did.

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Speaker 3: I did a polar plunge in Antarctica where the water was below freezing, which makes no sense, but it's so salinated that but my lungs felt like they flat, like I couldn't breathe and so that that's the last one I've done because it shared me so much.

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Speaker 4: Actually couldn't catch my breath.

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Speaker 3: So forty degrees forty two, forty two degrees, okay, I mean.

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Speaker 6: That's that's that's hardcore forty five or fifty even.

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Speaker 5: But in fact you haven't done them at all. It's already. I'm so excited for you. It's so so excited.

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Speaker 4: So funny because we were like, what are we going to talk to Gavin about?

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Speaker 3: He was like, you know what, let's just catch up, but no idea, We're going to go to ice.

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Speaker 5: Baths, catch up in the ice box.

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Speaker 4: I like changing conversation. Apparently for us Runner, you're gonna be a year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, So what we know, You're on the road, you're traveling, you're doing festivals.

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Speaker 4: What's netch, What what's this year look like for you?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 6: I finished my festivals, I do a festival and that I'm going to Australia, New Zealand and Australia, which is fun, like a couple of weeks there when it's just it comes into the summer. Truffles are good there now because I did an interview with a chef over here from and chef ken from a restaurant up here. Anyway, That's what I'm doing, and then I'm going to shoot my TV show, second season of Dinner with Gavin Rossdale.

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Speaker 4: Where do you shoot that?

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Speaker 5: In la?

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Speaker 4: That's so fun? Do you plan?

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Speaker 3: Like, how do you come up with the dinners? You come up with the menus and you come up.

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Speaker 6: With Yeah, I got them. I actually they I was going to do on my own. I did the pilots, I did them on my own. But when I got the sixth series thing, I was persuaded that to get a chef was really helpful. So I got a chef, this guy, Chef Francis, and he was it was really fun to learn from him because I'm self taught, you know, I'm just I'm self taught. So working with a really good chef and just like nicking techniques and chronology of way to do things was amazing. But so we did the menus together and I learned to through the recording of the six shows. Because what happened was at first it was a bit ambitious, and I was doing four courses because he was a bit fancier, so he's like tasting many so I was like and then I realized it made the dinners like four hours long, and I'm interviewing some of four hours. I was like, hell, I don't want to interview my girlfriend for four hours. So I was like, I was like, this is too long, and so like when I cook for Serena, I did these. Serena Williams was one of my guests, and there were four courses, and she was eating the fish tacos, a deconstructed fish tackle for her because I knew I was giving a chicken with French fries afterwards. So she's like, oh my god, there's more food. So I just was like, people are not expecting four courses. Because my dude was like he'd come from a fancy background tasting menus. I was like, this is you know, it's got to be elegant. But I think like a star or a main and a dessert is all good for most people.

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Speaker 2: I hear how you talk so passionately about food. I know you love your music. Is there any because we talked to Phil Rosenthal in here yesterday.

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Speaker 5: I did a show I love watching Somebody Feed Phil.

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Speaker 1: I love.

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Speaker 2: So Phil was a Hollywood guy who is now completely transitioned to a whole new thing. Is there any way you would stop, like completely stop doing music and all of a sudden you're.

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Speaker 5: Doing and eat my way around the world, teach your.

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Speaker 1: Way around the world, or doing cooking. Is there any way we would ever talk to you and you're not continuing to be a musician.

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Speaker 6: I don't think so, because it's a really good escape hatch or whatever or reliever pressure, you know. It just it gives too much of somewhere to put all my trash or my feelings.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's just somewhere to put it all.

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Speaker 6: And and I think that I would get too backed up. I could try and force my feelings into food or eating of food, but I'd waddle around and I would be a guest built for radio at that.

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Speaker 3: Point, podcasting is always a possibility.

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Speaker 2: To that point, we saw that I don't know who the band was. When we were sitting here and there's a young lady said she was talking to the audience.

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Speaker 1: She said, I wrote this song sitting on the toilet crying. Is that what she said?

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Speaker 4: Yes, she said, I was crying on the toilet when I wrote the song.

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Speaker 1: Where's the craziest place you've written a song?

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Speaker 5: Not the toilet that would lose i'd but she is probably great.

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Speaker 2: It was the craziest place you remember, or even a weird circumstance anything.

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Speaker 6: To I'm a little a little boring with that because I come from the school of my best friend's dad ruined it for me when I first began music, ruined it for us when we were kids. You know, seventeen eighteen years old, we're going to be musicians.

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Speaker 5: Year you'll can go work. We don't know. We're never gonna have to work ever in our lives. We're gonna be musicians.

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Speaker 6: And he said, that's all very well and good, and you guys are really impressive, and I really respect you kind of but don't forget Tim Panelli. They're going to work five days a week, nine to five. They're writing songs, so if you're serious about it. And it really screwed us up because like, man, he took all the Jim Morrison out of it. Yeah, And I was like, where's the girls and the drugs? You know, And and it was a real lesson in application. And so the way that I write. Of course, I can get inspired and write write things. Words will come to me, phrases, but really the meat of it all is just going in that studio, shutting the door, sitting in a chair and commissing. Writing a song is I find it quite challenging and it's annoying.

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Speaker 5: It's hard.

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Speaker 6: You gotta like it's like finishing the marathon. You can talk about it all you like, you can train the nap, but the day and you show up in damn.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you got to finish it.

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Speaker 6: And writing a song is always a sort of a fistfight. I'm like, I have a really weird process. I'm like full of self doubt, self recrimination, Like I torture myself and I think the last song I wrote was the best song, and the last song, how would I do that again? And I get it and then I don't get it and I get it and then I'm really happy and I'm like this is and it makes me the happiest person to write songs, especially when they're really dark, because it's almost like I get rid of that yeah and you know that source, that black cloud that I had, and I put it somewhere and then I've I've kind of I've win the bout without feeling I win that depression doesn't beat me. I beat that depression, you know, because I wrote the song I'd be loneliness because I love that idea. I was like, when I thought of that phrase, I was like, because music and writing is so magical, because it's not like I could write I beat loneless all day long, all day long, I'm not going to think of that phrase. But I thought of that phrase and I was like, Yeah, that's it, and I love it because it's like clearly impossible to beat the loanerle's So you can be in the most loving relationship ever, but you're gonna have your moments where you have your own h diving down the well, and that's really there's too much of an outlet. But I do love the idea. I think the people that make my TV show, they helped me. They really fantasize that. Ultimately, I'm gonna be Anthony Bourdain's kind of like anointed cousin and be traveling off around the world telling people what I think of their food.

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Speaker 3: You know, I mean, my goodness, music and food, those are the two things that fill our souls and our right bodies at the same time.

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Speaker 4: And that's pretty cool that you get to do both and you're great at both. It's nothing. You just get to do it. You are excelling at both that's pretty awesome.

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Speaker 5: Terrible at everything else.

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Speaker 4: That doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: You know, there are other people for that, but no, we're just we're so lucky to have you in the world and you and our lives and it's just been it's been awesome to watch your life just expand, so to speak, and happy to see you and your girlfriend.

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Speaker 4: It's so funny. Is Joanna were? I don't know how to pronounce her name.

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Speaker 3: We were looking up Johanna john x X.

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Speaker 5: He said, just literally Joanna.

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Speaker 2: Man, you should have heard us putting all kinds of spins on it over here.

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Speaker 6: I got a name wrong for the first seven months, I was going Joanna, it's Joanna, na na.

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Speaker 5: If you said Johanna, she's so Johanna.

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Speaker 1: We got to get that right. And how are the boys incredible?

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Speaker 5: It's so much fun. They're they they're they're the greatest.

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Speaker 6: They're the only being a father is so wonderful because you have boys, you know, I don't, and I just want them.

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Speaker 5: To be better at everything than I am.

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Speaker 6: It's such a nice context because sometimes i'm a bitbably a bit Taipei and I kind of want to be as good as everyone else or but with them, and so I love it. They I have distinct three relationships with three boys, and they called.

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Speaker 5: Me all the time.

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Speaker 6: I was talking to one boy, Zoomer, who's an incredible guitar player. So I went to the coffee shop this morning to get a macha for Johanna, and I was going to steal like half an hour on my own because Arsenal my team was playing side my phone. So I was gonna hit coffee and at nine o'clock this morning, so I was gonna hit coffee, sit there, watch the game, sneak away, then get the mutchers. But my son wanted to show me or play the guitar he's playing and let me watch him the entire like the whole last twenty minutes.

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Speaker 5: But I didn't want to break it off, but I was just dive.

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Speaker 6: I was hoping he was going to wrap up, because sometimes he wraps up quick. But he was not wrapping up, and he was playing. He was playing the Hotel California guitar solo and showing me how he's always going to use this lick down. I think this lick can go everywhere. And I was like, it's shortcan I was thinking, what's the score?

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Speaker 4: Because Hotel California you can.

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Speaker 5: Play there, he can play.

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Speaker 6: I'm not even the best guitar player in my house anymore, but I don't mind. I embraced that he's seventeen, going to be eighteen in August.

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Speaker 1: No, you're saying that legit, not just as a proud papa.

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Speaker 6: He's well, I can't play the Hotel California solo. I was gonna say me sometime, I'll be out in a minute, I'll be.

00:24:22
Speaker 5: In a room.

00:24:24
Speaker 6: No, it's not it's not my you know, because you know the way that I came up. I came up through the world of feelings. So I did music as this sort of Jim Morrison esque Alan Ginsburg.

00:24:37
Speaker 5: Put your heart on your sleeve, eat it, you know, spit it out.

00:24:40
Speaker 6: I love everyone. Everyone hates it, this crazy stuff. He came up through studying the Blues, Steve Ray Vaughn, you know, then all the old blues players. And I could see. I was like, this is why I'm not that good at guitar, because I didn't have the foundation. This kid is forming for himself. I just did it from words and then I just sort of had some terrible you know, I played busking chords just to put the ideas on and then I've learned since then, I tried to catch up. And then my other my older son, is all into very mathematical music, sort of fast, sort of emo playing. So then it's just it's just wild. My house like a guitar store. Because they're both playing. I'm like, can you play in the same key?

00:25:30
Speaker 5: You guys are killing me.

00:25:32
Speaker 6: Somebody decide their key, because as a musician, it's really hard to have two keys concurrently in the house when you're trying to cook in the middle, you know, And there's guitars everywhere, no guitars and storage anymore. The hotel, the house down the bottom is filled with guitars.

00:25:50
Speaker 5: Upstairs.

00:25:53
Speaker 1: It's still travel with you all the time.

00:25:54
Speaker 5: You who's here?

00:25:55
Speaker 1: What do you want to do?

00:25:56
Speaker 6: My twelve year old is with me, because the other one is that a seventell nineteen year old lives with me full time.

00:26:02
Speaker 5: He has for two three years, lives with me full.

00:26:04
Speaker 6: Time, and the other two travel between their mom and so the old one he's been you know, his mom is doing incredible stuff at the sphere which is phenomenal.

00:26:14
Speaker 5: She's so much respect for her and her.

00:26:16
Speaker 6: Band, and so they kind of burned out. They were the stage coach with me. Then they're going to the sphere. So he goes, Dad, I just want to play golf this weekend. I said, I totally get it. If I could play tennis, if I could play tennis all weekend, trust me, i'd have After I think about it, your children.

00:26:35
Speaker 3: Are surrounded by like music legends. I mean, you know, it's a lot. It's a lot, but it's a lot.

00:26:40
Speaker 6: But my little boy yesterday, he's so sweet. He says to me, like he hugged me. He said, I'm so proud of you. Your shows are so incredible. I love watching you. I love you so much. You're the greatest dad. Like he says stuff like that to me. I'm just like said, I'm not the greatest dad, I'm your dad. Like we we're so funny because we're at dinner the other night and they brought this caviar, a moose boush, and they gave it to Joanna and my manager, and then I had my moose boush and I put my plate over.

00:27:11
Speaker 5: To him and uh, he puts his cannape on mine put the way and Johanna goes. I thought, we're gonna give me your cavia.

00:27:23
Speaker 6: I said, I'm not that good a dad.

00:27:29
Speaker 4: Boundaries.

00:27:30
Speaker 5: It should not be Yeah, no one's that good.

00:27:33
Speaker 1: We're gonna let you go enjoy and keep enjoying. We can't thank you enough for taking the time. Man, this is family time. You got family.

00:27:41
Speaker 6: I don't want to put you on the spot. But I've had a great idea. I normally do my show for one person because I think.

00:27:50
Speaker 5: That's really good. But maybe we could work it out. You should come and do it.

00:27:53
Speaker 1: We love to you know what I mean.

00:27:55
Speaker 5: I'll just cook for you and we hang. We do this, but with cameras.

00:27:59
Speaker 4: That would be so fun.

00:28:00
Speaker 1: Really, that's not putting us on the spot.

00:28:04
Speaker 5: You couldn't You could end up. You could explod this out. So you're not committed.

00:28:09
Speaker 6: It's so much money to ask you.

00:28:14
Speaker 3: There's no hesitation. That's an absolutely wonderful love it.

00:28:20
Speaker 5: Okay, I would not do any other pair.

00:28:22
Speaker 4: Okay, we like that.

00:28:23
Speaker 5: I'm not choosing. I'm not choosing. I'm a good friend. I don't choose that.

00:28:28
Speaker 3: We can't spend more than five minutes apart anyway, so that works for us.

00:28:32
Speaker 4: That's okay, Vin, thank you so much. We are you.

00:28:36
Speaker 5: Could just sign here. We need sponsorship money, you know what I mean.

00:28:43
Speaker 2: Thank you, brother, and we will the next time we see you, I guess we'll be great. You're cooking, okay, all right