Jan. 31, 2026
Epstein Files UPDATE: Bill Gates AND Epstein Victims Wish Latest Files Weren’t Released
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RSS Feed The DOJ has just released 3 million files in the final document drop of the Epstein Files. Among the 180 thousand images and 2 thousand videos, there are 2 lengthy and damning email drafts from Jeffrey Epstein regarding Bill Gates. The content is so outrageous, Bill Gates has put out a public statement denying the claims calling them absurd and false. Meantime, many victims are outraged by this latest release, demanding it be taken down immediately.
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Speaker 1: Hey, the folks, it is Saturday, January thirty first, and that's it. That's all you're gonna get. We are being told that all of the Epstein files are now out after a three and a half million document dump by the DOJ yesterday. Bill Gates has having a bad morning and with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ.
00:00:33
Speaker 2: Robes. Is anybody going to say, okay, we believe you. That's it.
00:00:37
Speaker 3: Well, and look there's a caveat to that. That's all that they're going to release. So that's yes, three million plus dump on Friday night, and they say the rest of them, and there are millions more apparently, are not fit for release.
00:00:53
Speaker 4: They either have explicit.
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Speaker 3: Content, they detail too much about the victims, they were deemed not releasable. So, as you might imagine, democrats are already saying fifty percent of the files haven't been released, so no one's going to be satisfied. But the Justice Department did say this is it, folks.
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Speaker 2: So just like we start off, that's all you're gonna get.
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Speaker 1: So what was the point of this exercise if you put out so much stuff? But then you're telling us there's some stuff we're not gonna put out what then, then that's the stuff everybody wants.
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Speaker 2: That's what you're gonna Yes.
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Speaker 3: That's where the conspiracy lies somewhere in those files. Yes it will. It will never go to bed, and it will never be put to rest.
00:01:39
Speaker 1: All right, So here we go. Yes, this was the latest dump. They said this is going to be it. But this three and a half million documents included one hundred and eighty thousand images, two thousand videos. Trump's name is in there, yes, thousands of times, but quite frankly, in innocuous ways. You can go put his name in see how many times it comes up. But at this point, yes, we still do have journalists all over the country pouring through these files. At this point, no one there would have been the headline. So no one has seen anything at any point in any Epstein file that implicates Donald Trump in anything also headline attached to this. The victims, many of them, want the files that just were made public to be taken away from the public. We will explain that. And I just said, Bill Gates having a bad morning, he had to issue a statement. We're going to get immediately into that now robes again. Epstein files Transparency Act is why we're here. President signed it in November. They had thirty days to get everything out. They missed that deadline. We've got drips and drafts and trickles, and this was the last trickle. This Bill Gates thing today. Where did this come from?
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Speaker 4: This is fairly jaw dropping.
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Speaker 3: Look, there have been rumors and news articles and things implied that Bill Gates engaged in some way, in some not so respectable manner with women and Epstein and a lot of There have been rumors circulating that, yes, Linda Gates entered her relationship upon finding out some of this information. So this has been in the zeitgeist. This has been in the air, and it's been hanging over in a low cloud, but nothing specific, nothing that would be direct evidence of any kind of bad behavior until now.
00:03:19
Speaker 1: Remind me, though, has Gates always acknowledged the relationship. So it's been public and known that they were working together in some way or friends for years, but he always denied any wrongdoing or being aware correct and.
00:03:32
Speaker 3: He has since said he regretted having that relationship, that friendship.
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Speaker 4: But it is of note. I believe their friendship started. Most people will put.
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Speaker 3: It around the twenty eleven period of time, and if you recall, Epstein was admonished but not really that badly, yes, in two thousand and seven for his behavior. So he was a known pedophile at that point, basically for several years when Bill Gates decided to engage in some sort of relationship with him, a friendship, a business endeavor, knowing full well that he had been convicted.
00:04:10
Speaker 1: All right, so that now brings us get good. Us all caught up here that what did they divorce? Seven twenty one? Okay, So this is right on the heels of all of this stuff and Bill Gates's name being attached to Epstein in a not so nice way. This dump includes two emails in particular, and to explain here Robes. They're emails that Epstein seems to have written or drafted for Bill Gates and the Bill Gates Foundation, but he sent them to himself, as if many people have done this. You write an email you drafted, and you save it in your draft file, you send it to yourself. That is what happened here. But is a long couple of emails where it sound Robes, this is a guy who was writing this thinking nobody would say he wasn't up to something in a whole scheme. Yeah, I'm gonna die and one day people are gonna find this, and then I mean, that's impossible, So you gotta take it for you kind of gotta take it for phase value.
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Speaker 3: Look, this is, by all accounts, what Jeffrey Epstein thinks happened. This is his version of what happened between him and Bill Gates. And yes, most people are describing these emails as draft emails. We don't know if he sent a version of these emails ultimately to Bill Gates, or if he sent them to the Gates Foundation, or if he included some of this in his resignation letter. But clearly it's almost like we're seeing diary entries or just a journal of sorts from Epstein telling himself, reminding himself of what he wanted to say to Bill Gates when he did eventually put together an email or at least a resign nation letter from his board of the Gates Foundation. But these are eye opening, jaw dropping and confirming for a lot of people who have always had suspicions about Bill gates alleged activity in and around the Jeffrey Epstein circle.
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Speaker 1: Okay, we do want you to know Bill Gates did respond. We will include that here in a moment, but to tell you what we're talking about one of the emails, I'm just going to go through it line by line.
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Speaker 2: Here.
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Speaker 1: Quote again from this is Jeffrey Epstein's words writing what appears to be an email he wanted to send to Bill Gates. I have decided to resign my position, effective immediately with BG three and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. I have not come to this decision quickly or without a great deal of thought. During the past few weeks, I have been caught up in a severe marital dispute between Melinda and Bill. I have the greatest respect for my friend of seven years and wish them both well. In my role as his right hand I have been asked and wrongly acquiesced into participating in things that I have ranged from the morally inappropriate to the ethically unsound, and have been repeatedly asked to do things that get near and potentially over the line into the illegal. I'll stop right there, Aerobes. That is a lot, and it's being dismissed by Bill Gates as a disgruntled guy. So you could take this. Maybe he's mad, Maybe he's trying to do damage. Maybe this is something he's considering sending to the Foundation to make Bill look bad. That has to be a consider a possibility.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely.
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Speaker 3: And this was written by the way, in twenty thirteen, just for a point of reference in the timeline of these events, but just the idea of Jeffrey Epstein, the man we now know as one of probably the most prolific pedophiles in US history, is saying that Bill Gates repeatedly asked him to do things that were unethical, morally inappropriate, and potentially illegal. That is a shocking statement to make.
00:08:02
Speaker 1: And it said again, no one can. This is his version, as we say robes and this is something he was planning to send to the Foundation. It sounds like, so maybe that's one possibility he was trying to do damage. It goes on at least in this email, wraps up by saying, though it was kindly suggested that I make a transition to a new position after my six years of servitude, and that Bill would, in his words, give me two years severance pay I feel it would be dishonest to myself and my future from helping Bill to get drugs in order to deal with consequences of sex with Russian girls, to facilitating his illicit trysts with married women, to being asked to provide adderall for bridge tournaments as I am a medical doctor but have no prescription writing ability. I die damn. So okay, Yes, the only defense for Bill would be this guy was mad and he was trying to bring me down by me up these lies.
00:09:00
Speaker 2: That's the only defense.
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Speaker 4: That's his only defense.
00:09:02
Speaker 3: That these were threats of putting out lies about Bill Gates because he was angry. But I have to say these certainly read with a lot of the rumors that have been floating around.
00:09:14
Speaker 4: For years and years and years.
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Speaker 3: So it's not as if this comes out of nowhere, out of some void. This is for a lot of people confirming what they already thought was true. But this is a difficult position because Bill Gates can only say nahh. I mean, at this point, he really doesn't have any way to defend himself with any sort of proof. But to your point, these letters, these email drafts were written without his belief that you can I think I think you can assume that Jeffrey Epstein didn't think these emails or these drafts were ever going to be read or made public. Of course, that gives credibility, or it would, you would think potentially lend some credibility to what they're saying.
00:09:58
Speaker 4: But look, this is this some.
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Speaker 3: Damning, damning talking.
00:10:05
Speaker 1: And the Melinda has come out, I mean, since they're divorced, she's been open about it. Yes, his relationship with Epstein, she didn't get specific about what it was was a part did play a role in her ending that marriage. Man what she knows, She says she only met Epstein once, I believe, and was so turned off by him never sewing again.
00:10:26
Speaker 4: And you hear are you here? Yes, a dead man talking.
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Speaker 3: You hear Jeffrey Epstein reference Melinda and her dislike of him when he in this second email, which we took. This was a long email. We took out some of the part where he basically told Bill Gates what he thinks Bill Gates should have done instead of what he did do. But this is the meat of it that really has been flying in terms of headlines. He starts the second email with, Dear Bill, I cannot believe that you have chosen to disregard our friendship developed over the last six years.
00:11:01
Speaker 4: I am aware that accidents happen.
00:11:03
Speaker 3: It is how each of us has chosen to deal with this unfortunate event that has me dismayed beyond comprehension. You have decided to discharge me from my job. Had Larry, your PR person, tell me I engaged in morally inappropriate behavior, asked me to be the major actor in a cover up so that you can maintain the reputation that you have worked so hard to achieve. Asked me to recommit to a confidentiality agreement, and have categorically told me that we cannot have any direct, ongoing business relationship in total regard for its impact on the public perception of my reputation. And then he said, you have told me that Melinda insists on me not communicating with you unless Larry is copied or present. That was the first indication that he was very aware of the fact that Melinda Gates did not like him.
00:11:53
Speaker 1: And keep this one in mind as you continue here to our listeners. At least this is Epstein writing to Bill now. So now this is a little different from if he's trying to hurt Gates's reputation by sending some lies to somebody else. This is him talking directly to him.
00:12:09
Speaker 4: That's a very good point.
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Speaker 3: H Stamp and just wait until this last little bit, Epstein writes to Bill to add insult to the injury.
00:12:21
Speaker 4: You then implore me to please.
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Speaker 3: Delete the emails regarding your STD, your request that I provide you antibiotics that you can surreptitiously give to Melinda, and the description of your penis. You also made it clear to me that I am not to refer to X redacted, as that is another topic that must remain between the two of us. In return for all of these requests, which I have done without a second thought, I am not to attend meetings with Melinda. I should continue to provide you the same level of service and dedication that I've done so diligently until you are ready to discard me and our friendship.
00:13:05
Speaker 1: Well, look, he deserves what the benefit of the down. He hasn't been accused of a crime, not under investigation. It's just that this is like we deal with a lot of trials robes, and when you don't have clear cut video evidence, DNA proof, smoking gun, circumstantial evidence can also get you convicted. And the circumstances all collected together paint a difficult picture for him to just say, huh, it's it's a liar and he was disgruntled. Let's all go back to our business.
00:13:36
Speaker 4: This is tough.
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Speaker 3: This is tough for Bill Gates to overcome, especially given all the rumors that have been around for so long. And yes, you point out especially considering the divorce again that happened May of twenty twenty one, twenty seven years of marriage.
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Speaker 1: Wasn't this the thing? I how long after? I don't remember the Epstein stuff at the time. It was just he had caught with an email of something a staffer, somebody he was having an affair with, right, Yes, that, and then she divorced immediately. It was of this like a really quick boom, that divorce is done.
00:14:05
Speaker 4: Yes, it was very fast. She was ready to go.
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Speaker 3: And look, I think she has talked about specifically.
00:14:11
Speaker 4: There were absolutely.
00:14:12
Speaker 3: Infidelities, and the Epstein part of their divorce was she had acknowledged it. To your point, she said that was absolutely one of the reasons for the divorce. When she was asked, she confirmed.
00:14:26
Speaker 1: Well, we have heard from Epstein. Yes, years now after his death, we are still hearing from him. But we are also hearing from Bill Gates. Stay here will share his statement and his explanation for what we're seeing in these Epstein files. Also will tell you what the victims now want done, when and why. All right, folks, we'll go back through Aby and TJ on this Saturday, January thirty first, a whole new stack of millions of documents for folks to go through. The latest batch of Epstein files have been released. The DJ says, this is all you're gonna get, that this is the last batch of documents to come out, and a big story coming out of it having to do with Bill Gates ropes we were just talking about. He had to come out and he had to make a statement. There wasn't even waiting for an interview request. He had to put something out.
00:15:25
Speaker 3: And you know, I'm imagining if he even knew that Epstein, maybe Epstein sent versions of these emails to him, if he knew that there was a draft, if he thought perhaps maybe the investigators might find some of this type of back and forth between the two of them.
00:15:43
Speaker 4: I wonder how concerned he's.
00:15:45
Speaker 3: Been throughout these last months, very about what was going to get out, And if he was concerned, well, there was good reason, because yes, these draft emails that were found in the Epstein files sure paint an ugly picture of what Epstein claims Bill Gates did while in his presence and required help from him to cover up some of what Epstein says Gates did, including having trysts with Russian girls contracting STDs. Potentially, the suggestion is that he gave Melinda Gates an STD needed to slip some antibiotics in her food or drink or whatever to try and make sure she got better without her even knowing she had an STD.
00:16:29
Speaker 4: I mean, this is disgusting and horrific.
00:16:32
Speaker 3: Uh.
00:16:33
Speaker 1: And yes, and he knows how bad this looks put out a statement saying, quote, these claims from a proven disgruntled liar are absolutely absurd and completely false. The only thing these documents demonstrate is Epstein's frustration that he did not have an ongoing relationship with Gates and the lengths he would go to and trap and defame. Yes, he's a convicted pedophile dead, Yes, let's continue to dump on them. And that's a strategy. What else could he say? What else could he do?
00:17:04
Speaker 3: No?
00:17:04
Speaker 4: That is all he can say.
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Speaker 3: But the point being that part of Epstein's power, a lot of people pointed to, and this is why they wanted these documents released, is that he had the goods on a lot of powerful men because they engaged in inappropriate behavior with some of the girls that he had around him, many of them underage. And so that was the whole point, that he did hold the fate of powerful men in his hands with the knowledge he had and maybe even some of the proof he had. And so yes, seeing this right now, people I think are saying, yeah, exactly, that's what we thought.
00:17:41
Speaker 1: Swear he's dead and still has the fate of powerful men in his hands. How far will this go? Who else will speak up? This is an indictment, this thing, it is hard if this isn't a court of law. Circumstantial evidence here tells you something. Again, Bill Gazes has not been convicted of a damn thing or accused of a damn thing by an investigator or anybody in a court of the court of law. Public opinion here is going to be tough on this one. I don't know what else he can say. The victims, meanwhile, we don't want to let you know. The Epstein victims some have come forward now wrote and said, we've never come forward. Yeah, and their names are in these things.
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Speaker 3: Yes, So here's this is just so awful. So you have a group of Epstein victims, we saw them on the Capitol saying release the files, release the files. But you have a whole other group of victims who say, look, no one even knew my name was associated with this because I was protected as a sexual assault victim. But they claim the lawyer who has been representing many of these women, Brad Edwards, came out and now is demanding after all of this, that the Department of Justice take down these three million files that they just released, including photos and documents and everything. They want them now to take them down and as Brad Edwards say, put in the names of the victims and put hit redact as they asked. So the whole frustrating part of this for the victims is, yes, they wanted this information released. The reason why the information was delayed in being released, according to the Department of Justice, is that it was having to redact all sorts of victims' names and identifiable situations. Clearly they didn't do that, because now you have a number of victims who are extremely upset and actually say they're being victimized now all over again.
00:19:32
Speaker 2: This is a mess.
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Speaker 1: The Epstein Files Transparency Act.
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Speaker 2: This is a mess. So they're not going to take it down. I assume.
00:19:41
Speaker 1: I don't know how that can they redact while it's still public and I don't.
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Speaker 3: Know ask The ask from their attorneys is that they take it down, correct it, and put it back up. The actual quote was, and this is kind of significant. We are getting this is the law firm representing these women. We are getting constant calls for victims because they're names, despite them never coming forward, being completely unknown to the public, have all just been released for public consumption. It's literally thousands of mistakes.
00:20:12
Speaker 2: Did you see a DOJ response?
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Speaker 3: No?
00:20:14
Speaker 2: Okay, I did not. Okay, folks, we wanted to hop on.
00:20:18
Speaker 1: This was this is not the Saturday we planned, but a couple of big stories jumped out today. So we want to hop on and give you an update as we always do here, certainly when there was a breaking news story, but by all means top right corner of the Apple Podcast app, where you see that button that says follow click that on our show page you can always get our updates coming to you. And again they've just been so many lately, so we always appreciate you spending some time here with us. For my dear Amy Robok, I am TJ.
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Speaker 2: Holmes. Obviously, we'll be talking to you all soon
Speaker 1: Hey, the folks, it is Saturday, January thirty first, and that's it. That's all you're gonna get. We are being told that all of the Epstein files are now out after a three and a half million document dump by the DOJ yesterday. Bill Gates has having a bad morning and with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ.
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Speaker 2: Robes. Is anybody going to say, okay, we believe you. That's it.
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Speaker 3: Well, and look there's a caveat to that. That's all that they're going to release. So that's yes, three million plus dump on Friday night, and they say the rest of them, and there are millions more apparently, are not fit for release.
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Speaker 4: They either have explicit.
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Speaker 3: Content, they detail too much about the victims, they were deemed not releasable. So, as you might imagine, democrats are already saying fifty percent of the files haven't been released, so no one's going to be satisfied. But the Justice Department did say this is it, folks.
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Speaker 2: So just like we start off, that's all you're gonna get.
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Speaker 1: So what was the point of this exercise if you put out so much stuff? But then you're telling us there's some stuff we're not gonna put out what then, then that's the stuff everybody wants.
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Speaker 2: That's what you're gonna Yes.
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Speaker 3: That's where the conspiracy lies somewhere in those files. Yes it will. It will never go to bed, and it will never be put to rest.
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Speaker 1: All right, So here we go. Yes, this was the latest dump. They said this is going to be it. But this three and a half million documents included one hundred and eighty thousand images, two thousand videos. Trump's name is in there, yes, thousands of times, but quite frankly, in innocuous ways. You can go put his name in see how many times it comes up. But at this point, yes, we still do have journalists all over the country pouring through these files. At this point, no one there would have been the headline. So no one has seen anything at any point in any Epstein file that implicates Donald Trump in anything also headline attached to this. The victims, many of them, want the files that just were made public to be taken away from the public. We will explain that. And I just said, Bill Gates having a bad morning, he had to issue a statement. We're going to get immediately into that now robes again. Epstein files Transparency Act is why we're here. President signed it in November. They had thirty days to get everything out. They missed that deadline. We've got drips and drafts and trickles, and this was the last trickle. This Bill Gates thing today. Where did this come from?
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Speaker 4: This is fairly jaw dropping.
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Speaker 3: Look, there have been rumors and news articles and things implied that Bill Gates engaged in some way, in some not so respectable manner with women and Epstein and a lot of There have been rumors circulating that, yes, Linda Gates entered her relationship upon finding out some of this information. So this has been in the zeitgeist. This has been in the air, and it's been hanging over in a low cloud, but nothing specific, nothing that would be direct evidence of any kind of bad behavior until now.
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Speaker 1: Remind me, though, has Gates always acknowledged the relationship. So it's been public and known that they were working together in some way or friends for years, but he always denied any wrongdoing or being aware correct and.
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Speaker 3: He has since said he regretted having that relationship, that friendship.
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Speaker 4: But it is of note. I believe their friendship started. Most people will put.
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Speaker 3: It around the twenty eleven period of time, and if you recall, Epstein was admonished but not really that badly, yes, in two thousand and seven for his behavior. So he was a known pedophile at that point, basically for several years when Bill Gates decided to engage in some sort of relationship with him, a friendship, a business endeavor, knowing full well that he had been convicted.
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Speaker 1: All right, so that now brings us get good. Us all caught up here that what did they divorce? Seven twenty one? Okay, So this is right on the heels of all of this stuff and Bill Gates's name being attached to Epstein in a not so nice way. This dump includes two emails in particular, and to explain here Robes. They're emails that Epstein seems to have written or drafted for Bill Gates and the Bill Gates Foundation, but he sent them to himself, as if many people have done this. You write an email you drafted, and you save it in your draft file, you send it to yourself. That is what happened here. But is a long couple of emails where it sound Robes, this is a guy who was writing this thinking nobody would say he wasn't up to something in a whole scheme. Yeah, I'm gonna die and one day people are gonna find this, and then I mean, that's impossible, So you gotta take it for you kind of gotta take it for phase value.
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Speaker 3: Look, this is, by all accounts, what Jeffrey Epstein thinks happened. This is his version of what happened between him and Bill Gates. And yes, most people are describing these emails as draft emails. We don't know if he sent a version of these emails ultimately to Bill Gates, or if he sent them to the Gates Foundation, or if he included some of this in his resignation letter. But clearly it's almost like we're seeing diary entries or just a journal of sorts from Epstein telling himself, reminding himself of what he wanted to say to Bill Gates when he did eventually put together an email or at least a resign nation letter from his board of the Gates Foundation. But these are eye opening, jaw dropping and confirming for a lot of people who have always had suspicions about Bill gates alleged activity in and around the Jeffrey Epstein circle.
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Speaker 1: Okay, we do want you to know Bill Gates did respond. We will include that here in a moment, but to tell you what we're talking about one of the emails, I'm just going to go through it line by line.
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Speaker 2: Here.
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Speaker 1: Quote again from this is Jeffrey Epstein's words writing what appears to be an email he wanted to send to Bill Gates. I have decided to resign my position, effective immediately with BG three and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. I have not come to this decision quickly or without a great deal of thought. During the past few weeks, I have been caught up in a severe marital dispute between Melinda and Bill. I have the greatest respect for my friend of seven years and wish them both well. In my role as his right hand I have been asked and wrongly acquiesced into participating in things that I have ranged from the morally inappropriate to the ethically unsound, and have been repeatedly asked to do things that get near and potentially over the line into the illegal. I'll stop right there, Aerobes. That is a lot, and it's being dismissed by Bill Gates as a disgruntled guy. So you could take this. Maybe he's mad, Maybe he's trying to do damage. Maybe this is something he's considering sending to the Foundation to make Bill look bad. That has to be a consider a possibility.
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Speaker 4: Absolutely.
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Speaker 3: And this was written by the way, in twenty thirteen, just for a point of reference in the timeline of these events, but just the idea of Jeffrey Epstein, the man we now know as one of probably the most prolific pedophiles in US history, is saying that Bill Gates repeatedly asked him to do things that were unethical, morally inappropriate, and potentially illegal. That is a shocking statement to make.
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Speaker 1: And it said again, no one can. This is his version, as we say robes and this is something he was planning to send to the Foundation. It sounds like, so maybe that's one possibility he was trying to do damage. It goes on at least in this email, wraps up by saying, though it was kindly suggested that I make a transition to a new position after my six years of servitude, and that Bill would, in his words, give me two years severance pay I feel it would be dishonest to myself and my future from helping Bill to get drugs in order to deal with consequences of sex with Russian girls, to facilitating his illicit trysts with married women, to being asked to provide adderall for bridge tournaments as I am a medical doctor but have no prescription writing ability. I die damn. So okay, Yes, the only defense for Bill would be this guy was mad and he was trying to bring me down by me up these lies.
00:09:00
Speaker 2: That's the only defense.
00:09:01
Speaker 4: That's his only defense.
00:09:02
Speaker 3: That these were threats of putting out lies about Bill Gates because he was angry. But I have to say these certainly read with a lot of the rumors that have been floating around.
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Speaker 4: For years and years and years.
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Speaker 3: So it's not as if this comes out of nowhere, out of some void. This is for a lot of people confirming what they already thought was true. But this is a difficult position because Bill Gates can only say nahh. I mean, at this point, he really doesn't have any way to defend himself with any sort of proof. But to your point, these letters, these email drafts were written without his belief that you can I think I think you can assume that Jeffrey Epstein didn't think these emails or these drafts were ever going to be read or made public. Of course, that gives credibility, or it would, you would think potentially lend some credibility to what they're saying.
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Speaker 4: But look, this is this some.
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Speaker 3: Damning, damning talking.
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Speaker 1: And the Melinda has come out, I mean, since they're divorced, she's been open about it. Yes, his relationship with Epstein, she didn't get specific about what it was was a part did play a role in her ending that marriage. Man what she knows, She says she only met Epstein once, I believe, and was so turned off by him never sewing again.
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Speaker 4: And you hear are you here? Yes, a dead man talking.
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Speaker 3: You hear Jeffrey Epstein reference Melinda and her dislike of him when he in this second email, which we took. This was a long email. We took out some of the part where he basically told Bill Gates what he thinks Bill Gates should have done instead of what he did do. But this is the meat of it that really has been flying in terms of headlines. He starts the second email with, Dear Bill, I cannot believe that you have chosen to disregard our friendship developed over the last six years.
00:11:01
Speaker 4: I am aware that accidents happen.
00:11:03
Speaker 3: It is how each of us has chosen to deal with this unfortunate event that has me dismayed beyond comprehension. You have decided to discharge me from my job. Had Larry, your PR person, tell me I engaged in morally inappropriate behavior, asked me to be the major actor in a cover up so that you can maintain the reputation that you have worked so hard to achieve. Asked me to recommit to a confidentiality agreement, and have categorically told me that we cannot have any direct, ongoing business relationship in total regard for its impact on the public perception of my reputation. And then he said, you have told me that Melinda insists on me not communicating with you unless Larry is copied or present. That was the first indication that he was very aware of the fact that Melinda Gates did not like him.
00:11:53
Speaker 1: And keep this one in mind as you continue here to our listeners. At least this is Epstein writing to Bill now. So now this is a little different from if he's trying to hurt Gates's reputation by sending some lies to somebody else. This is him talking directly to him.
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Speaker 4: That's a very good point.
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Speaker 3: H Stamp and just wait until this last little bit, Epstein writes to Bill to add insult to the injury.
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Speaker 4: You then implore me to please.
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Speaker 3: Delete the emails regarding your STD, your request that I provide you antibiotics that you can surreptitiously give to Melinda, and the description of your penis. You also made it clear to me that I am not to refer to X redacted, as that is another topic that must remain between the two of us. In return for all of these requests, which I have done without a second thought, I am not to attend meetings with Melinda. I should continue to provide you the same level of service and dedication that I've done so diligently until you are ready to discard me and our friendship.
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Speaker 1: Well, look, he deserves what the benefit of the down. He hasn't been accused of a crime, not under investigation. It's just that this is like we deal with a lot of trials robes, and when you don't have clear cut video evidence, DNA proof, smoking gun, circumstantial evidence can also get you convicted. And the circumstances all collected together paint a difficult picture for him to just say, huh, it's it's a liar and he was disgruntled. Let's all go back to our business.
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Speaker 4: This is tough.
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Speaker 3: This is tough for Bill Gates to overcome, especially given all the rumors that have been around for so long. And yes, you point out especially considering the divorce again that happened May of twenty twenty one, twenty seven years of marriage.
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Speaker 1: Wasn't this the thing? I how long after? I don't remember the Epstein stuff at the time. It was just he had caught with an email of something a staffer, somebody he was having an affair with, right, Yes, that, and then she divorced immediately. It was of this like a really quick boom, that divorce is done.
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Speaker 4: Yes, it was very fast. She was ready to go.
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Speaker 3: And look, I think she has talked about specifically.
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Speaker 4: There were absolutely.
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Speaker 3: Infidelities, and the Epstein part of their divorce was she had acknowledged it. To your point, she said that was absolutely one of the reasons for the divorce. When she was asked, she confirmed.
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Speaker 1: Well, we have heard from Epstein. Yes, years now after his death, we are still hearing from him. But we are also hearing from Bill Gates. Stay here will share his statement and his explanation for what we're seeing in these Epstein files. Also will tell you what the victims now want done, when and why. All right, folks, we'll go back through Aby and TJ on this Saturday, January thirty first, a whole new stack of millions of documents for folks to go through. The latest batch of Epstein files have been released. The DJ says, this is all you're gonna get, that this is the last batch of documents to come out, and a big story coming out of it having to do with Bill Gates ropes we were just talking about. He had to come out and he had to make a statement. There wasn't even waiting for an interview request. He had to put something out.
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Speaker 3: And you know, I'm imagining if he even knew that Epstein, maybe Epstein sent versions of these emails to him, if he knew that there was a draft, if he thought perhaps maybe the investigators might find some of this type of back and forth between the two of them.
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Speaker 4: I wonder how concerned he's.
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Speaker 3: Been throughout these last months, very about what was going to get out, And if he was concerned, well, there was good reason, because yes, these draft emails that were found in the Epstein files sure paint an ugly picture of what Epstein claims Bill Gates did while in his presence and required help from him to cover up some of what Epstein says Gates did, including having trysts with Russian girls contracting STDs. Potentially, the suggestion is that he gave Melinda Gates an STD needed to slip some antibiotics in her food or drink or whatever to try and make sure she got better without her even knowing she had an STD.
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Speaker 4: I mean, this is disgusting and horrific.
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Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 1: And yes, and he knows how bad this looks put out a statement saying, quote, these claims from a proven disgruntled liar are absolutely absurd and completely false. The only thing these documents demonstrate is Epstein's frustration that he did not have an ongoing relationship with Gates and the lengths he would go to and trap and defame. Yes, he's a convicted pedophile dead, Yes, let's continue to dump on them. And that's a strategy. What else could he say? What else could he do?
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Speaker 3: No?
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Speaker 4: That is all he can say.
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Speaker 3: But the point being that part of Epstein's power, a lot of people pointed to, and this is why they wanted these documents released, is that he had the goods on a lot of powerful men because they engaged in inappropriate behavior with some of the girls that he had around him, many of them underage. And so that was the whole point, that he did hold the fate of powerful men in his hands with the knowledge he had and maybe even some of the proof he had. And so yes, seeing this right now, people I think are saying, yeah, exactly, that's what we thought.
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Speaker 1: Swear he's dead and still has the fate of powerful men in his hands. How far will this go? Who else will speak up? This is an indictment, this thing, it is hard if this isn't a court of law. Circumstantial evidence here tells you something. Again, Bill Gazes has not been convicted of a damn thing or accused of a damn thing by an investigator or anybody in a court of the court of law. Public opinion here is going to be tough on this one. I don't know what else he can say. The victims, meanwhile, we don't want to let you know. The Epstein victims some have come forward now wrote and said, we've never come forward. Yeah, and their names are in these things.
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Speaker 3: Yes, So here's this is just so awful. So you have a group of Epstein victims, we saw them on the Capitol saying release the files, release the files. But you have a whole other group of victims who say, look, no one even knew my name was associated with this because I was protected as a sexual assault victim. But they claim the lawyer who has been representing many of these women, Brad Edwards, came out and now is demanding after all of this, that the Department of Justice take down these three million files that they just released, including photos and documents and everything. They want them now to take them down and as Brad Edwards say, put in the names of the victims and put hit redact as they asked. So the whole frustrating part of this for the victims is, yes, they wanted this information released. The reason why the information was delayed in being released, according to the Department of Justice, is that it was having to redact all sorts of victims' names and identifiable situations. Clearly they didn't do that, because now you have a number of victims who are extremely upset and actually say they're being victimized now all over again.
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Speaker 2: This is a mess.
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Speaker 1: The Epstein Files Transparency Act.
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Speaker 2: This is a mess. So they're not going to take it down. I assume.
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Speaker 1: I don't know how that can they redact while it's still public and I don't.
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Speaker 3: Know ask The ask from their attorneys is that they take it down, correct it, and put it back up. The actual quote was, and this is kind of significant. We are getting this is the law firm representing these women. We are getting constant calls for victims because they're names, despite them never coming forward, being completely unknown to the public, have all just been released for public consumption. It's literally thousands of mistakes.
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Speaker 2: Did you see a DOJ response?
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Speaker 3: No?
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Speaker 2: Okay, I did not. Okay, folks, we wanted to hop on.
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Speaker 1: This was this is not the Saturday we planned, but a couple of big stories jumped out today. So we want to hop on and give you an update as we always do here, certainly when there was a breaking news story, but by all means top right corner of the Apple Podcast app, where you see that button that says follow click that on our show page you can always get our updates coming to you. And again they've just been so many lately, so we always appreciate you spending some time here with us. For my dear Amy Robok, I am TJ.
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Speaker 2: Holmes. Obviously, we'll be talking to you all soon