Oct. 19, 2026
DEVELOPING: Soccer Mom Who Killed 2 And Injured 10, Released With No Charges
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RSS Feed A shocking story out of Wichita, Kansas: A 34-year-old mom with two of her kids in the backseat, drove through a soccer field killing a 6-year-old boy and a 34-year-old man. Five kids between the ages of 5 and 9 were also injured, along with 5 other adults. While the woman is said to be cooperating with police, there is outrage growing that she’s been released without being charged as the investigation continues. Police say they are awaiting toxicology results from the driver and are conducting a mechanical investigation of her pickup truck before deciding on any potential charges.
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00:00:02
Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Monday, October 19th, and a tragedy. At a youth soccer game, a driver plows into kids and spectators during a youth soccer game, killing one man and one six-year-old boy. But here's the thing this morning. People are wondering why the driver has yet to be charged. And with that, welcome to this episode of Yes, it was horrific. There are lots of videos circulating about what happened, but people and police still don't understand why it happened. This is horrific.
00:00:50
Speaker 2: A very disturbing story that doesn't have a lot of answers right now. A 34-year-old mom who had two of her kids in the back of the pickup truck with her. How? Why? Would she plow into a field that was filled with little kids playing soccer and their parents watching on the sidelines? It really is something that demands answers in addition to people being outraged. That this woman has not been charged. She woke up at home.
00:01:20
Speaker 1: This is a 34-year-old woman. So, Robe, sometimes we've seen this countless times over the years. Elderly person hits the gas instead of the brake. Absolutely. We hear those things, those mistakes happen. Robe, so often, sometimes here, if you're not that adept at driving a stick shift, something can go wrong. But, Robe, the technology in a lot of cars these days, I don't know what might have happened, what they're looking into. To think this vehicle malfunctioned. You better believe. What did you say? It was a Chevy?
00:01:49
Speaker 2: It's a, sorry, it's a Chevy pickup truck.
00:01:51
Speaker 1: Okay.
00:01:52
Speaker 2: Yep.
00:01:52
Speaker 1: I don't know what the age, but you better believe Chevrolet is involved right now.
00:01:56
Speaker 2: Yes.
00:01:56
Speaker 1: Because if they're looking into possibly a fault in one of their vehicles, they're looking into it. But roads, this makes no sense.
00:02:02
Speaker 2: It doesn't. I've actually seen the video, some of the videos, and I don't know that much about cars. You know a lot more than I do. It looks pretty new. It's a big black Chevy pickup truck. I thought it was interesting the way police in their report described it. They say that it was parked in a parking space. near one of the soccer fields before it drove onto the field, striking multiple children and adults. And it's as if there was an acceleration. This is just a bizarre situation. And reportedly, this came out at the press conference. One of the reporters said that bystanders were describing her shouting, oh my God, oh my God, what have I done? So it doesn't appear that this was an intentional act. Police have said that she is cooperating. And just the idea that a mom, and by the way, one of her other kids was playing in at the sports complex, but on a different field. There are 11 turf outdoor fields in the sports complex. So there are a lot of different games going on. So how is it possible that she was in a parked parking space with two of her kids in the back seat, another kid playing, and all of a sudden she accelerates onto a soccer field?
00:03:16
Speaker 1: Excuse me. And can't stop.
00:03:19
Speaker 2: And can't stop and doesn't stop. And look, obviously, they took some blood work. So they're waiting on results from toxicology testing. And yes, this mechanical investigation on the vehicle. There were other reports that she was saying, it wasn't me. It wasn't me. Implying somehow that the car just.
00:03:39
Speaker 1: Took off on its own.
00:03:40
Speaker 2: But that's really hard to imagine what scenario that would involve. We've been told she has a valid driver's license. She has no outstanding warrants. This isn't a woman that police have any real background on that would indicate that this was anything short of a horrific accident. But obviously, we have to wait on the toxicology testing. We know the police have interviewed more than 30 witnesses. And right now, this will be a big part of it. They are trying to get all of those people who weren't just around that field, but in neighboring fields, to please send in their videos because, you know, you soccer game, lots of parents, people have their phones out. They're recording what may be happening. So they are probably going to get a lot more insight into exactly what happened when she plowed into the field and certainly surrounding what happened there as well. And yes, there's some pretty significant outrage that she hasn't been charged yet. in this case. And that has been a lot of the perplexing part of this. And we should point out the victims, a six-year-old Cole Adrian and a 35-year-old Nicholas Schaefer. They're not related, but just the idea that two people died in this, 10 others transported to the hospital, some of them with traumatic injuries, but the trauma for everyone at that soccer field who witnessed this, I cannot even begin to imagine.
00:05:03
Speaker 1: This is a second. We were talking about another story today, right? The airman at the game in San Antonio. A lot of people have seen that story, but a pregame ceremony. A member of the military rappelling down from the rafters. Never slowed down. Don't know what happened, but fell right there to his death in front of thousands. Brobes, this kind of trauma that people are witnessing when you're supposed to be having, really, it's one of the escapes, is it not? Every weekend. We go to a football game. We take our kids to soccer matches. No matter where you are, I don't know if your kids play soccer or not, this is like a weekend tradition. There is nothing more family than soccer games. Babes, talk about this place, this complex. There are fields everywhere. Everybody listening knows this place because we've been to these places and we've seen them. Robes, the idea of this taking place in front of kids, kids who are on the field, literally 20 of them out there on the field, running up and down, parents clicking pictures and taking, and a pickup truck plows down kids on a field in front of everybody. Robes, yes, there are some physical harm and injuries. Robes, these folks are going to, It's going to be a while to recover from something like this.
00:06:39
Speaker 2: I have chills from head to toe thinking about that, thinking about this PTSD. This is real. Any I just have chills from from the kids to the parents returning to a soccer field. Returning to a soccer game? Could you ever? I mean, just the idea of that happening again and just knowing that you lived through it once, that will never leave these children's minds. It will never leave those parents. You now suddenly feel like you're not safe anywhere. You're not safe anywhere. At a soccer field. And it's not as if a gun was involved or there was some terror attack or some targeted incident. This is just such an unlikely, unthinkable scenario. It would never have crossed anyone's mind to even be concerned. And this is really kind of frightening, babe. You mentioned the rappelling incident at the college football game, that that was just so horrific for that to happen in front of all of those people. And then I keep thinking about what happened in Ecuador to that priest on a live stream in the middle of mass, a crucifix crushing him in the middle of his homily. And for not just that congregation to witness, but for the world to see, there were three pretty horrific deaths that were all witnessed by thousands of people.
00:07:56
Speaker 1: 24-hour period.
00:07:58
Speaker 2: In a 24-hour period.
00:07:59
Speaker 1: This is all Saturday, baby. Yes. All this was Saturday.
00:08:01
Speaker 2: I have never seen a string of events like that that displayed public deaths that were freak accidents in front of so many people.
00:08:14
Speaker 1: You know, I guess some of this goes to Roams, right? Cameras are everywhere. We have a view of everything that's going on in the world these days. So that's part of it. But Roams, we... with the soccer match, at least. And you just mentioned the other two. And we talk about this with school, with shootings and school shootings, about all of our safe places have been taken away. The mall, the church, the movie theater, right? The school. Rose, you're talking about, we work all week to get to these things. The church, the school, the games for your kids, to a football game. Rose, these are very innocent things. places and as innocent as they get and the places we go for relief and for family and for love and for friends and they've just turned into horror shows this weekend baby we're talking about horror shows in front of in one case at least thousands to witness but the innocence of this one is not just the innocence of the life lost but the innocence lost i guess with these kids who had to witness this yeah all those kids want they got soccer dreams they watch tv they want to go play soccer the rest They're going to practice next week? They're going to go to a game next weekend?
00:09:29
Speaker 2: How are they going to feel about that? You make a good point because, yes, this was a horrific incident. And yes, two people died. And yes, one of them a small child. But you've also got 10 other people who were, some of them, severely injured in this aftermath. And the police chief, when they were talking to folks afterwards, just spoke to, yes, obviously the tragedy of those who died, but so many others that are now recovering, five of them children between the ages of five and nine, who some of them are waking up in the hospital still this morning. And this is a small community in Wichita, Kansas. And everyone who's in that soccer community is impacted by this. And it wasn't just what they saw, but it's also what they heard. When we come back, we're going to talk about some of these witness accounts that to what folks actually experienced there on Saturday, and yes, what the plan is going forward at this sports complex. Welcome back, everyone, to Amy and TJ. We are talking about the horror on a soccer field in Wichita, Kansas. This happened around 3.30 Saturday afternoon at the Stryker Sports Complex in Wichita. If you were a parent in the area... And he had a kid who played soccer. I mean, this was the place to be on Saturday afternoon. And just to have this experience, to have a woman, a mom of at least three kids with two of them in her vehicle at the time in a pickup truck barreling down where all the spectators and kids were playing on the soccer field. And I thought this was interesting because obviously you're not expecting this. So parents are talking to reporters afterwards and said it sounded like gunshots. And then they said, this is a horrific soundbite from somebody, but the moment that she recognized that it wasn't gunshots, and then she realized that what she was hearing were bodies. She's like, I lost it because it wasn't just adults, it was children. Another witness actually heard an engine revving. Explain that, because we don't know what happened. But to think that the engine was revving and that this truck was barreling onto this field at full speed is how it's been described.
00:11:50
Speaker 1: What mistake could could have been made obviously something went wrong um or this was an intentional act which is at least sounds like the police are leaning away from but what happened like what happened to where you're i mean you got to put a lot of You got to press on that gas to gun it like that.
00:12:10
Speaker 2: Could it have gotten stuck? I mean, have you ever heard of a situation where you push down on a gas, somehow it gets stuck? Was there something?
00:12:20
Speaker 1: From a parking lot, from a parking spot, babe, to go from zero to soccer field? Why are you gunning? Nobody takes off from a parking spot like that. That doesn't make any sense.
00:12:30
Speaker 2: That doesn't make any sense because it's not as if this was a car coming in. and it just like lost control. No, it was in a parked space, in a parking space, and it was in a parked position. This was another interesting nugget from a kid who was speaking and said that his father was one of the bystanders who rushed to remove the driver from the vehicle. And here was his quote, my dad went to the truck and took the person out of the truck so that they didn't hit any more people. I'm shocked. Because if he didn't do that, maybe the car wouldn't have stopped and more people could have gotten hit. He's describing, this kid is describing his kid as his father is going after the truck and pulling the driver out.
00:13:12
Speaker 1: See, that didn't make sense. I was wondering. I saw that and I was like, what is this kid describing? What did this kid see?
00:13:17
Speaker 2: Right.
00:13:17
Speaker 1: And two, I took it as that is exactly what happened because kids are quite literal. They don't give a lot of nuance and context or anything. This is what I saw. The other way is a kid describing something that's a little... That maybe didn't see it exactly right and that description isn't correct because it doesn't make sense. How was a car going that fast and somebody able to catch up with it in time to pull the driver out?
00:13:38
Speaker 2: Right.
00:13:38
Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense either.
00:13:41
Speaker 2: That is strange. But look, in terms of people reacting and the police chief gave kudos to so many of the bystanders because I believe it took 10 minutes forâ police and EMTs to reach the scene in the chaos that was described. But they say so many people sprang into action. They were giving CPR. They were putting pressure on wounds. And they gave, quote, life-saving assistance to the people who were wounded until those first responders were able to respond to the scene itself. And those are always the silver linings. You just see, obviously, the worst of the worst. But you see regular, everyday civilian heroes rush into action to try and help.
00:14:23
Speaker 1: I mean, again, we were, unfortunately, we were talking about this with that school shooting recently, the way the dad, the bystander, right? I'm sure you had parents all around. I'm sure they all jumped into action to take care of kids, all those parents out there. But, Rose, that's just a horrible scene. All those kids on the field, they're playing. They're in the middle of playing a game, and they get mowed down. Look, Rose, there's... Not all people who don't know what happened here. But this doesn't sound like a brake versus hit the gas instead of brake situation. I don't know. I mean, there's just how many mechanical scenarios can you go through with a late model vehicle? They just don't do this. Could be a freak thing. could be.
00:15:08
Speaker 2: I think, I mean, obviously everyone in that community and certainly now the rest of the world who is watching is demanding an answer as to what happened and whether or not this woman will be facing charges. Some people are already saying, oh, she's a white woman. So of course they let her go. If she had, if she had any color in her skin, if she was looked any different than she does, she would be in or he or whoever would be in prison right now. And people are screaming, saying this is preferential treatment. This is unfair. I don't know what's.
00:15:39
Speaker 1: Right here, baby. This is tough. I don't know what is the right thing here, but the fact of the matter remains. There is a kid dead, and there is a man dead who's, if he was out there, probably a parent, right?
00:15:52
Speaker 2: A young parent, 34, 35 years old.
00:15:55
Speaker 1: So it was an accident, and there's no criminal responsibility, right? That's the thing, baby. We've seen these stories before, and they've even changed laws having to do with people with gas and brake because they wanted to make sure they were able to address this. I don't know, babe. Sometimes, yes, elderly folks get charged with this when they hit the gas instead of brake. They didn't mean to.
00:16:18
Speaker 2: Still, there's a thing called involuntary manslaughter. And look, I would think she would have to face some sort of charge. They're just trying to figure out what that is.
00:16:28
Speaker 1: It's just tough for people to hear that someone behind the wheel of a car mowed down a six-year-old and that person went home without charges. Police, we're figuring it out. That's a tough one to stomach right now.
00:16:39
Speaker 2: You're giving the benefit of the doubt to someone who you're perhaps considering other, you're given a consideration that other people wouldn't have been given.
00:16:50
Speaker 1: Is this the right consideration in the first place? The argument is just that you don't give everybody the same treatment. We're not arguing that this treatment necessarily is wrong, I suppose. Yes. But it doesn't seem like equal justice. But I don't also do not make sense of this baby, how she's home, how there are no charges. Go home and we'll get back to you kind of a thing. It did help. She didn't leave the scene. That's not. someone who is trying to get away necessarily, but it's also not someone who's trying to get away who takes their two kids with them on their crime spree. Right. None of this makes sense.
00:17:20
Speaker 2: None of it makes sense.
00:17:21
Speaker 1: But as much as we've been talking about women and postpartum issues, Robes, this is mental health. It's going to be something at least you stop and think about for a second.
00:17:33
Speaker 2: And you just hit the nail on the head. So many people online are absolutely drawing the comparisons and to women killing their kids and getting away with it. And they have brought up Lindsay Clancy. It's so interesting. That has been a huge theme. If you go on any social media, you will see multiple comments saying, wow, another situation where a woman who kills kids gets away with it. So yes, people are already making those comparisons. The police are obviously going to have to speak up pretty soon about what conclusions they've drawn and explain what, if any, charges are going to be filed on this. So we will continue to keep our eye on this developing story, but we always appreciate you listening to us, everyone. I'm Amy Robach, alongside TJ Holmes. We'll talk soon.
Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Monday, October 19th, and a tragedy. At a youth soccer game, a driver plows into kids and spectators during a youth soccer game, killing one man and one six-year-old boy. But here's the thing this morning. People are wondering why the driver has yet to be charged. And with that, welcome to this episode of Yes, it was horrific. There are lots of videos circulating about what happened, but people and police still don't understand why it happened. This is horrific.
00:00:50
Speaker 2: A very disturbing story that doesn't have a lot of answers right now. A 34-year-old mom who had two of her kids in the back of the pickup truck with her. How? Why? Would she plow into a field that was filled with little kids playing soccer and their parents watching on the sidelines? It really is something that demands answers in addition to people being outraged. That this woman has not been charged. She woke up at home.
00:01:20
Speaker 1: This is a 34-year-old woman. So, Robe, sometimes we've seen this countless times over the years. Elderly person hits the gas instead of the brake. Absolutely. We hear those things, those mistakes happen. Robe, so often, sometimes here, if you're not that adept at driving a stick shift, something can go wrong. But, Robe, the technology in a lot of cars these days, I don't know what might have happened, what they're looking into. To think this vehicle malfunctioned. You better believe. What did you say? It was a Chevy?
00:01:49
Speaker 2: It's a, sorry, it's a Chevy pickup truck.
00:01:51
Speaker 1: Okay.
00:01:52
Speaker 2: Yep.
00:01:52
Speaker 1: I don't know what the age, but you better believe Chevrolet is involved right now.
00:01:56
Speaker 2: Yes.
00:01:56
Speaker 1: Because if they're looking into possibly a fault in one of their vehicles, they're looking into it. But roads, this makes no sense.
00:02:02
Speaker 2: It doesn't. I've actually seen the video, some of the videos, and I don't know that much about cars. You know a lot more than I do. It looks pretty new. It's a big black Chevy pickup truck. I thought it was interesting the way police in their report described it. They say that it was parked in a parking space. near one of the soccer fields before it drove onto the field, striking multiple children and adults. And it's as if there was an acceleration. This is just a bizarre situation. And reportedly, this came out at the press conference. One of the reporters said that bystanders were describing her shouting, oh my God, oh my God, what have I done? So it doesn't appear that this was an intentional act. Police have said that she is cooperating. And just the idea that a mom, and by the way, one of her other kids was playing in at the sports complex, but on a different field. There are 11 turf outdoor fields in the sports complex. So there are a lot of different games going on. So how is it possible that she was in a parked parking space with two of her kids in the back seat, another kid playing, and all of a sudden she accelerates onto a soccer field?
00:03:16
Speaker 1: Excuse me. And can't stop.
00:03:19
Speaker 2: And can't stop and doesn't stop. And look, obviously, they took some blood work. So they're waiting on results from toxicology testing. And yes, this mechanical investigation on the vehicle. There were other reports that she was saying, it wasn't me. It wasn't me. Implying somehow that the car just.
00:03:39
Speaker 1: Took off on its own.
00:03:40
Speaker 2: But that's really hard to imagine what scenario that would involve. We've been told she has a valid driver's license. She has no outstanding warrants. This isn't a woman that police have any real background on that would indicate that this was anything short of a horrific accident. But obviously, we have to wait on the toxicology testing. We know the police have interviewed more than 30 witnesses. And right now, this will be a big part of it. They are trying to get all of those people who weren't just around that field, but in neighboring fields, to please send in their videos because, you know, you soccer game, lots of parents, people have their phones out. They're recording what may be happening. So they are probably going to get a lot more insight into exactly what happened when she plowed into the field and certainly surrounding what happened there as well. And yes, there's some pretty significant outrage that she hasn't been charged yet. in this case. And that has been a lot of the perplexing part of this. And we should point out the victims, a six-year-old Cole Adrian and a 35-year-old Nicholas Schaefer. They're not related, but just the idea that two people died in this, 10 others transported to the hospital, some of them with traumatic injuries, but the trauma for everyone at that soccer field who witnessed this, I cannot even begin to imagine.
00:05:03
Speaker 1: This is a second. We were talking about another story today, right? The airman at the game in San Antonio. A lot of people have seen that story, but a pregame ceremony. A member of the military rappelling down from the rafters. Never slowed down. Don't know what happened, but fell right there to his death in front of thousands. Brobes, this kind of trauma that people are witnessing when you're supposed to be having, really, it's one of the escapes, is it not? Every weekend. We go to a football game. We take our kids to soccer matches. No matter where you are, I don't know if your kids play soccer or not, this is like a weekend tradition. There is nothing more family than soccer games. Babes, talk about this place, this complex. There are fields everywhere. Everybody listening knows this place because we've been to these places and we've seen them. Robes, the idea of this taking place in front of kids, kids who are on the field, literally 20 of them out there on the field, running up and down, parents clicking pictures and taking, and a pickup truck plows down kids on a field in front of everybody. Robes, yes, there are some physical harm and injuries. Robes, these folks are going to, It's going to be a while to recover from something like this.
00:06:39
Speaker 2: I have chills from head to toe thinking about that, thinking about this PTSD. This is real. Any I just have chills from from the kids to the parents returning to a soccer field. Returning to a soccer game? Could you ever? I mean, just the idea of that happening again and just knowing that you lived through it once, that will never leave these children's minds. It will never leave those parents. You now suddenly feel like you're not safe anywhere. You're not safe anywhere. At a soccer field. And it's not as if a gun was involved or there was some terror attack or some targeted incident. This is just such an unlikely, unthinkable scenario. It would never have crossed anyone's mind to even be concerned. And this is really kind of frightening, babe. You mentioned the rappelling incident at the college football game, that that was just so horrific for that to happen in front of all of those people. And then I keep thinking about what happened in Ecuador to that priest on a live stream in the middle of mass, a crucifix crushing him in the middle of his homily. And for not just that congregation to witness, but for the world to see, there were three pretty horrific deaths that were all witnessed by thousands of people.
00:07:56
Speaker 1: 24-hour period.
00:07:58
Speaker 2: In a 24-hour period.
00:07:59
Speaker 1: This is all Saturday, baby. Yes. All this was Saturday.
00:08:01
Speaker 2: I have never seen a string of events like that that displayed public deaths that were freak accidents in front of so many people.
00:08:14
Speaker 1: You know, I guess some of this goes to Roams, right? Cameras are everywhere. We have a view of everything that's going on in the world these days. So that's part of it. But Roams, we... with the soccer match, at least. And you just mentioned the other two. And we talk about this with school, with shootings and school shootings, about all of our safe places have been taken away. The mall, the church, the movie theater, right? The school. Rose, you're talking about, we work all week to get to these things. The church, the school, the games for your kids, to a football game. Rose, these are very innocent things. places and as innocent as they get and the places we go for relief and for family and for love and for friends and they've just turned into horror shows this weekend baby we're talking about horror shows in front of in one case at least thousands to witness but the innocence of this one is not just the innocence of the life lost but the innocence lost i guess with these kids who had to witness this yeah all those kids want they got soccer dreams they watch tv they want to go play soccer the rest They're going to practice next week? They're going to go to a game next weekend?
00:09:29
Speaker 2: How are they going to feel about that? You make a good point because, yes, this was a horrific incident. And yes, two people died. And yes, one of them a small child. But you've also got 10 other people who were, some of them, severely injured in this aftermath. And the police chief, when they were talking to folks afterwards, just spoke to, yes, obviously the tragedy of those who died, but so many others that are now recovering, five of them children between the ages of five and nine, who some of them are waking up in the hospital still this morning. And this is a small community in Wichita, Kansas. And everyone who's in that soccer community is impacted by this. And it wasn't just what they saw, but it's also what they heard. When we come back, we're going to talk about some of these witness accounts that to what folks actually experienced there on Saturday, and yes, what the plan is going forward at this sports complex. Welcome back, everyone, to Amy and TJ. We are talking about the horror on a soccer field in Wichita, Kansas. This happened around 3.30 Saturday afternoon at the Stryker Sports Complex in Wichita. If you were a parent in the area... And he had a kid who played soccer. I mean, this was the place to be on Saturday afternoon. And just to have this experience, to have a woman, a mom of at least three kids with two of them in her vehicle at the time in a pickup truck barreling down where all the spectators and kids were playing on the soccer field. And I thought this was interesting because obviously you're not expecting this. So parents are talking to reporters afterwards and said it sounded like gunshots. And then they said, this is a horrific soundbite from somebody, but the moment that she recognized that it wasn't gunshots, and then she realized that what she was hearing were bodies. She's like, I lost it because it wasn't just adults, it was children. Another witness actually heard an engine revving. Explain that, because we don't know what happened. But to think that the engine was revving and that this truck was barreling onto this field at full speed is how it's been described.
00:11:50
Speaker 1: What mistake could could have been made obviously something went wrong um or this was an intentional act which is at least sounds like the police are leaning away from but what happened like what happened to where you're i mean you got to put a lot of You got to press on that gas to gun it like that.
00:12:10
Speaker 2: Could it have gotten stuck? I mean, have you ever heard of a situation where you push down on a gas, somehow it gets stuck? Was there something?
00:12:20
Speaker 1: From a parking lot, from a parking spot, babe, to go from zero to soccer field? Why are you gunning? Nobody takes off from a parking spot like that. That doesn't make any sense.
00:12:30
Speaker 2: That doesn't make any sense because it's not as if this was a car coming in. and it just like lost control. No, it was in a parked space, in a parking space, and it was in a parked position. This was another interesting nugget from a kid who was speaking and said that his father was one of the bystanders who rushed to remove the driver from the vehicle. And here was his quote, my dad went to the truck and took the person out of the truck so that they didn't hit any more people. I'm shocked. Because if he didn't do that, maybe the car wouldn't have stopped and more people could have gotten hit. He's describing, this kid is describing his kid as his father is going after the truck and pulling the driver out.
00:13:12
Speaker 1: See, that didn't make sense. I was wondering. I saw that and I was like, what is this kid describing? What did this kid see?
00:13:17
Speaker 2: Right.
00:13:17
Speaker 1: And two, I took it as that is exactly what happened because kids are quite literal. They don't give a lot of nuance and context or anything. This is what I saw. The other way is a kid describing something that's a little... That maybe didn't see it exactly right and that description isn't correct because it doesn't make sense. How was a car going that fast and somebody able to catch up with it in time to pull the driver out?
00:13:38
Speaker 2: Right.
00:13:38
Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense either.
00:13:41
Speaker 2: That is strange. But look, in terms of people reacting and the police chief gave kudos to so many of the bystanders because I believe it took 10 minutes forâ police and EMTs to reach the scene in the chaos that was described. But they say so many people sprang into action. They were giving CPR. They were putting pressure on wounds. And they gave, quote, life-saving assistance to the people who were wounded until those first responders were able to respond to the scene itself. And those are always the silver linings. You just see, obviously, the worst of the worst. But you see regular, everyday civilian heroes rush into action to try and help.
00:14:23
Speaker 1: I mean, again, we were, unfortunately, we were talking about this with that school shooting recently, the way the dad, the bystander, right? I'm sure you had parents all around. I'm sure they all jumped into action to take care of kids, all those parents out there. But, Rose, that's just a horrible scene. All those kids on the field, they're playing. They're in the middle of playing a game, and they get mowed down. Look, Rose, there's... Not all people who don't know what happened here. But this doesn't sound like a brake versus hit the gas instead of brake situation. I don't know. I mean, there's just how many mechanical scenarios can you go through with a late model vehicle? They just don't do this. Could be a freak thing. could be.
00:15:08
Speaker 2: I think, I mean, obviously everyone in that community and certainly now the rest of the world who is watching is demanding an answer as to what happened and whether or not this woman will be facing charges. Some people are already saying, oh, she's a white woman. So of course they let her go. If she had, if she had any color in her skin, if she was looked any different than she does, she would be in or he or whoever would be in prison right now. And people are screaming, saying this is preferential treatment. This is unfair. I don't know what's.
00:15:39
Speaker 1: Right here, baby. This is tough. I don't know what is the right thing here, but the fact of the matter remains. There is a kid dead, and there is a man dead who's, if he was out there, probably a parent, right?
00:15:52
Speaker 2: A young parent, 34, 35 years old.
00:15:55
Speaker 1: So it was an accident, and there's no criminal responsibility, right? That's the thing, baby. We've seen these stories before, and they've even changed laws having to do with people with gas and brake because they wanted to make sure they were able to address this. I don't know, babe. Sometimes, yes, elderly folks get charged with this when they hit the gas instead of brake. They didn't mean to.
00:16:18
Speaker 2: Still, there's a thing called involuntary manslaughter. And look, I would think she would have to face some sort of charge. They're just trying to figure out what that is.
00:16:28
Speaker 1: It's just tough for people to hear that someone behind the wheel of a car mowed down a six-year-old and that person went home without charges. Police, we're figuring it out. That's a tough one to stomach right now.
00:16:39
Speaker 2: You're giving the benefit of the doubt to someone who you're perhaps considering other, you're given a consideration that other people wouldn't have been given.
00:16:50
Speaker 1: Is this the right consideration in the first place? The argument is just that you don't give everybody the same treatment. We're not arguing that this treatment necessarily is wrong, I suppose. Yes. But it doesn't seem like equal justice. But I don't also do not make sense of this baby, how she's home, how there are no charges. Go home and we'll get back to you kind of a thing. It did help. She didn't leave the scene. That's not. someone who is trying to get away necessarily, but it's also not someone who's trying to get away who takes their two kids with them on their crime spree. Right. None of this makes sense.
00:17:20
Speaker 2: None of it makes sense.
00:17:21
Speaker 1: But as much as we've been talking about women and postpartum issues, Robes, this is mental health. It's going to be something at least you stop and think about for a second.
00:17:33
Speaker 2: And you just hit the nail on the head. So many people online are absolutely drawing the comparisons and to women killing their kids and getting away with it. And they have brought up Lindsay Clancy. It's so interesting. That has been a huge theme. If you go on any social media, you will see multiple comments saying, wow, another situation where a woman who kills kids gets away with it. So yes, people are already making those comparisons. The police are obviously going to have to speak up pretty soon about what conclusions they've drawn and explain what, if any, charges are going to be filed on this. So we will continue to keep our eye on this developing story, but we always appreciate you listening to us, everyone. I'm Amy Robach, alongside TJ Holmes. We'll talk soon.