Sept. 21, 2025
DeAnna In The Wild: Get Your Flirt On
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RSS Feed Ben has sent DeAnna off to a concert to test out her flirting skills! It's time to get back into the swing of things! Did she meet anyone or strike out horribly?
Ben is getting into the nitty-gritty of what turns DeAnna on, and off! What kind of man is she attracted to, and what gives her the ick? We’re searching for her perfect man after she gives us the details!
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Speaker 1: iHeart Podcasts bring you the ultimate Summer of Love Tree. This is famously available. Welcome back the on it to the podcast. Now. Recently we sent you to Wingo Tango. It's an amazing concert. I've been many times. That was back in May, and you got to hang out at the beach and start to see what you like, what you're interested in. Again, today we're here as we get this whole thing kicked off to kind of figure out what your type is, or for our listeners to just understand more what your type is. So let's start with just the overview of everything. How was Wingo Tango.
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Speaker 2: Oh, it was a lot of fun. I haven't been to a concert in a really long time, and it was so fun. I really, all I care about is squin Stephanie, and I was just hoping she would play some of her old school No Doubt stuff. So it was actually really funny because Rachel and Genevieve, who are significantly younger than I am, were there and we had I mean we were right next to the stage. We were like just having the best time ever. And some of her newer stuff the girls knew, but when she started playing some of that No Doubt stuff. The girls were like, yeah, no, I have no clue what this song is. Said here I am living my best almost forty four year old life and she's playing like all of my high school favorites and we knew every single word and we're jumping up and down, and poor Genevieve she was like, yeah, I don't know this song at all, Like she had no clue any of the songs that Gwyn was playing.
00:01:28
Speaker 1: So Genevieve is one of my favorite people, by the way, that I've ever hung out with in Vacherination. She is hilarious, and then you got to see Rachel as well. The two of them together is a power team. Did they know? Do they know your current situation that you are mingling and looking to potentially find a nice little dating partner.
00:01:51
Speaker 2: Genevieve was a little confused. So that was the first time that I met Genevieve, And yes, she's delightful, and she also was on the prowl, so you know, we were like working beside each other to try and find anything remotely attractive. And Rachel I adore and she's also super great. But Rachel knows about the podcast and was super stoked Genevieve. I kind of had to explain a little bit what was going on, and she was like, okay, cool, yeah, let's find you a husband. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no, I'm in it for different reasons this time around. So but Rachel, yeah, she was on the prow for me because it has been so long been since I have been in the dating scene that I kind of didn't know what to do. Like, I'm pretty good on my own, I'm pretty fun I'm funny, I like to have a good time, but like, I don't know how to interact with the opposite sex anymore, I'm realizing because I haven't dated in so long, and Rachel was like on the lookout, trying to find me anyone to flirt with, any cute guy to talk to, and I just like it was like I clammed up and I frozen. I didn't know what to do.
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Speaker 1: Okay, that's where we're going to start then, because I think this is a very relatable and interesting topic. I didn't love dating. I didn't I wasn't great at it. It made me a lot more anxious than what I think was healthy. I would have good sometimes really good times on dates, but leading up to those dates, it's all I can think about, Like I just couldn't like roll in, relax and have a good time. So this is a skill set. I think it is a muscle that needs to be practiced and worked on to get back out there again. You haven't done it. Let's just call it what it is. You're not great at dating right now because you haven't done it in so long. How are you going to get okay at dating again? How are you going to get this muscle flexed and worked out?
00:03:47
Speaker 2: I don't know, Ben, and I believe that our listeners are going to be quite surprised to hear this because you're talking to two people here who went on national television to date and find they're forever lasting love. So I always think that, and I'm I'm relatively an outgoing human being. I'm very extroverted. I thrive on being with friends and being able to do social events and stuff with other people. But I am with you. I didn't love dating even when I was single, and I actually didn't love it when I was a bachelorette because I found it very hard to focus on multiple people at a time. I'm not a very good serial dater at that, like I don't. I can't focus really on more than one person at a time, and I most of that is just myself because I'm incredibly loyal and I need to just have one one thing, one man, one person to kind of put my time in energy in. I'm not very good at like disassociating when it comes to one person to another, to another and all of that. And I also don't like dating in the sense of going and sitting down at dinner and having to get to know someone you know like, which is weird for me because I truly can get to know a wall. Ben, like you could sit here for the next forty five minutes and not say a word and I'll believe this and be like, Ben is so great. We just had the most wonderful conversation ever.
00:05:06
Speaker 1: Please do job very easy.
00:05:08
Speaker 2: See see, So I can get to know someone and I can do a date. And I guess that's why I'm drawn to this Ben doing the podcast where someone else will do the betting for me, hopefully some good betting, and send me on dates with some really great people that a connection might be there. Because I'm also not I'm one of those women that I believe that chivalry is not dead. I'm not necessarily the girl in the grocery store who walks up to the handsome guy and is like, oh my god, hello, I'm divorce and single, are you Like? I don't do that. I wait to be approached, and I like for the man to be a man and to take the lead. I very much want that. I think that I am. I have so many parts of my life that I have to be really organized and I have to be in charge of and I have to lead all of those places and those pieces in my career and with the kids and paying bills and things like. I have to be an adult. And I think that the one thing that I have always desired in a relationship is for a man to do that part. I would love to be. And I'm going to use the word submissive, which I hate because I am not a submissive human being. Like I'm very much I'm a very strong, independent woman. But I think there is a place in a relationship that I've always crazed, craved, I'm sorry for a man to take the lead. That's the one place I don't really want to have to be in charge. And maybe that's why I'm still here, although you know, I haven't been able to find that. But and maybe that's ultimately why I went on the Bachelor and became the bachelorette. It was a unique space to meet someone to hopefully have a long lasting relationship, and so that's why I jumped on this opportunity too, because you know, when I'm at home, I have my kids, and when I'm at work, I'm traveling the world. And I love both of those pieces of my life and I'm in charge of those pieces, and those pieces I can control, but I don't necessarily go out and meet guys to date to have that kind of part of my life. And so maybe that's why I jumped on this being able to do the podcast, because I like being able to give that control to you or anyone else that set me up on a date and hopefully it's somebody really great and it turns into something and I don't have to do the legwork to get there. Does that make sense?
00:07:23
Speaker 1: It makes a lot of sense. There's a lot of questions I want to ask from what you just said, but I think through this process, you know, you and I are just getting familiar with each other. And how this is going to work. I've always believed with any of my girlfriends who are still single or have been single and have been a part of my life, my job is to not spew advice. One I don't have like the ultimate advice to give everybody. But I can ask questions that sometimes ruffle feathers, that sometimes bring to light maybe something you said or something you're doing to make us all think about it, and maybe you can convince me you know this is the right way to do it. I think the first part of this is you have just laid out your life currently and on the last time we sat down, you laid that same life out and you said, I have these kind of structures, these parts of my life where I have my kids and I'm focused on my kids and I love my kids. I have my job and I'm focused on my career and I love my career, and I get to travel the world. And then I have this really fun time where like maybe those two things aren't happening at you know, neither of them are existing for a couple of days, and you really love your alone time. Where are you going to find the space or let's ask you the question that I think so many want to know, do you actually want to find the space again?
00:08:39
Speaker 2: I do. I do, Actually, I really do. Something that I've said from the moment that I decided I was ready to start it to date again, because I think I shared with you before, I wasn't in that capacity for a really long time. I really chose and I have done this throughout every relationship that I've had. I really sit in a space of myself and find my again, and I really grieve that stuff. I am not one to go back to relationships like once they are done, they're done for me. I'm not someone who lives in the past. I heard this recently that when you the past is depression, right to past his depression, future is anxiety that we all have to live in the present, right And I don't go back. I don't when relationships come to an end, I don't go back. And I really utilize that space to sit with myself and to grieve and to find myself again and learn how to be, you know, and myself a woman alone, you know what I mean. And I'm really okay with that. So I didn't date for a really long time. I didn't have any interest in it. I was with Stephen for fifteen years. I was really at a loss when that marriage came to an end, and I think that that's okay. I had no desire to jump into another relationship, to focus on another human being, to pour into them, to make them feel loved and cared for, because I needed to do that for myself. I needed to do that for my children. They had been through a lot. And so I am just now in a space where I feel like I am personally ready to open that up. And for me, that's really great, and I feel really, you know, powerful in saying that, because I would have been doing not just myself a disservice, but another human being before a disservice, to just utilize them for a period of time. Because now I can say that I'm ready to do that now, I understand your question about clarity with my career, right. I'm not opposed to having someone that I genuinely care about in my children's life. It just had to be the right person. So, and what I mean by that is that I don't want a revolving door for my children. In no way, shape or form. I need to date someone for a significant period of time before I have them even around my children at all, you know, And that's something that I can control, and that something that I will do for myself and for them, and I believe that that is really important to them. I do not want them to see every person that I date. I don't want them to see a revolving door of men come in and out of my house. They don't need a stepdaddy, right they have a dad. So I am going to be really picky about that person that I choose to invest my time in, let alone have around my children. So I think once that groundwork is there, then it will be easier for me to make those spaces in my life combined right with my children, someone to live in my daily life, and I really want that. In the meantime, I might have to get creative, you know, and the times that I am home and I'm not working and I don't have my children, that's a great time for me to date. Or I have always really wanted a partner that would like to travel the world with me. I love my job, Ben, and I love to travel the world. I love to see different cultures, different parts of the world. For parts of the United States. I live for that and I have always genuinely wanted someone who would enjoy doing that with me, and I've never had that. I've never ever had that, not even in my marriage. And so I also think that if that's a place for creativity, if I'm able to find someone that I really like, why not meet me when I'm in Cabo and date in Mexico. Why not meet me when I'm across the world in South Africa and let's go on a safari. I would really like to meet someone that has the ability to do that. The financial stability to do that would also be really cool. I'm not looking to be someone's sugar Mama Ben. I realized that might come as a shock. Yeah, you know, and that's a big ask.
00:12:45
Speaker 3: I realized that's a big ask for someone.
00:12:58
Speaker 1: Before we start the rapid fire here and kind of diving into what you're most attracted to, I want to remind you of something. It has been fifteen sixteen years since you were in the dating pool, and as you were talking, I reminded myself of this. And in fact, about six months ago, I had a friend who's thirty one. She was wanting to find relationships so bad. She's always struggled with it, and she called me and said, I've met somebody and I think this is the right person for me. And here's why they think it's the right person for them. And I actually think this is simple and brilliant all at the same time. And it's something we forget because you know, we'll talk about red flags in a bit. We'll talk about, as the kids say today, the ick. What gives you the ick? Like those things that throw you off. Here's how she knew. And they're gonna get married. They're engaged now. She wanted to be around that person you just said it. Like the space. There'll be people you date where you're like, I really have no desire to see them tomorrow on my off day, But then all of a sudden, there might be somebody that comes through You're like, oh my gosh, I cannot wait to see that person. Like this isn't a responsibility, this isn't a burden, this isn't a struggle. And I want to remind you of that because it's been a bit. But that feeling does exist, and I think it really is a big factor on is this the right person or not? Do I want to see them tomorrow or the next.
00:14:19
Speaker 2: Day, I a thousand percent agree with you, because I only barely dipped my toe into dating in the last year. I tried the dating apps for a hot minute that was it's just worse than anything else in the whole world. Ben But I remember saying that to myself. You know, my girlfriends were super excited for me, because thankfully, my friends think I'm pretty great, and they would like for me to find someone really great. And when I would go on a date, they'd be like, oh, you know, what do you think, Or like when I would come home from a trip, you know, a guy would be like, let's go get dinner. And I would say that to myself. If I really liked someone, I would want to hang out with them. I would want to use my spare time to be with them. And I have not experienced that. When I come home from a trip, I have not found anyone. Not that I've dated a lot, Okay, only a few people, but none of those few people have I come home from a trip and thought I'd love to go out and see that person and grab dinner. No, I couldn't wait to take my shoes off and lie on my own couch and make myself dinner and eat alone and watch what I wanted on television, like I knew in my heart of hearts that should tell me something.
00:15:17
Speaker 1: I agree, No, I think that's a good marker. We are going to work our hardest to find you some incredible people to date, and you will date them, and they might be incredible and you might have something with them or you might not. That is not the pressure that you need to feel or should feel. That's part of dating. And I think that's what's so fun about this show is going to give people an insight. And as you said, you're great at describing and explaining your feelings and your emotions and your thoughts on what you were into and what you weren't. And I think a lot of people are going to relate with it when they listen and say, wait, I felt that same way. Now she's putting words to what I felt in a way I could never do it. And that's what I'm excited about. But I want to dive in here, uh to find out kind of what we're looking for when we go out here on our search. It's not going to be a hard search. I have a feeling there's going to be many men going hey, I would like to date her. But let's start with an easy softball question. When I ask you, who is your celebrity crush, first person that comes to mind.
00:16:18
Speaker 2: I hate this question. Then I don't have one.
00:16:20
Speaker 1: I truly, yes, you do. Who do you find attractive? Then? Are you a George Clooney? Are you a brad person?
00:16:27
Speaker 2: Are you no?
00:16:30
Speaker 1: Who was I looking at the other day that I was like, goodness, that dude is handsome.
00:16:33
Speaker 2: I mean, they're handsome. I think this is Okay, let me. This is a bad question for me because in my career I have flown a lot of celebrities and I am not I'm the least fangirl kind of person. I never had that. You know, everybody has that like list that that that list that even if you were with someone, you could sleep with those people your crush. I just, yeah, I don't have any of that. I really don't. Like. I can appreciate handsome, but like, yeah, I've never thought I want to haul pass to be able to sleep with bread.
00:17:01
Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair. Okay, Then let's start with this you mentioned on the last episode, and it's clear to your friends and your followers and your fans that your faith is really important to you, and it is not just a faith of words, but this is a not only a lifestyle. This has your relationship with your faith has changed your life from the inside out. So as a result, is faith a massive I don't want to say issue that makes face sound like an issue. Is faith important to you and your next partner?
00:17:33
Speaker 2: It's very important for me if I am going to date someone long term and have a long term relationship, partnership, companionship with someone. Yeah, I ideally would like to date someone who believes in God and believes in Jesus. That's what I do. I want. I envision myself to holding a man's hand at church on Sundays like I would really love that. So ultimately, long term for me, those things have to coincide.
00:18:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it's it adds a depth to the relationship. How in the world are you supposed to confront any type of difficult conversation if the two of you aren't coming from a similar place. And this is what we believe about humans, and this is what we believe about the world around us. So I do think it adds a depth for long standing relationships.
00:18:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, I start my day in prayer, and I end it in prayer, and I would love to do that with someone.
00:18:24
Speaker 1: I think that's fair. Okay, that's good. That's a really good marker. As we begin this, and you know, in the same breath we've seen it. You know more and more where you know there's single dads out there, they're they're wanting to date, and they're they're speaking the same kind of language you're speaking, where it's like, I don't I want to date, but I don't know if I have the time or the space, the abilities. When you think about a single dad with kids, still raising children, is that something that's attractive to you. Is that something that's just the Hey, that's cool, or is this a no, a non starter like I can't also add in those kids.
00:19:01
Speaker 2: No, it's super attractive to me, been for many reasons. For starters. They will understand what I'm going through. They will understand my lifestyle. They will understand that some days, a date does not mean dinner at six o'clock. It means let's grab coffee after we drop our children off at school. Let's get lunch on Wednesday, because our children don't get out until two thirty in the afternoon. So for me, that's really attractive for that like scheduling piece, but also for someone who doesn't have children, they'll, I mean, and I say this in the kindest way possible, They're never going to be able to understand when I say, no, you know what, my children need me tonight, I can't meet you this evening. They might be kind about it, but for me, I think that there will come a point where that will become a point of resentment because I'm always going to choose my kids over someone else. I'm just going to I'm their mom and those are my kids. So there's also that emotional piece that for me, a single dad is going to understand that that first and foremost, I'm a single mom and my children are really important to me, and a single dad we'll also get that. So there's a scheduling piece, there's the emotional piece, and then I would like to think at some point, if it gets to that, then there's the piece of combining families, you know what I mean. Like that, ultimately, if I'm looking really far down the road and I don't have anyone, you know what I mean. But in my mind, when I'm looking at the long term and down the road of things. That's what I would like to have. Someone who understands parenthood because again I've shared with you, I don't want more children. I will be forty four this year. I have no desire to be pregnant again and breastfeeding for another year year and the lack of sleep and up every few hours. You know it very well, Ben, I don't have a desire to do that again. But I think I can be a really incredible stepmom. I think I can.
00:20:43
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's always so beautiful no matter what life has brought. You know, these people together to see, you know, you go to the zoo and you see you can tell two families having fun. Usually the kids are very similar in age, which doesn't like always get to exist when you know, because you wait a year or two years to have your next kid. So sometimes there's like similar age groups that can play together and have fun together. I think it's a beautiful thing. And I get what you're saying too. When it talk when you talk about space and when you talk about obligations, and when you talk about the things that are important to you, somebody with kids will get that. They'll understand it. It won't have to be explained to them. They'll be like, I get it. Yeah, that's fine. Actually, tonight I wanted to sit at home too, because I haven't been without the kids for the last two weeks. I'm exhausted. So yeah, I'm going to sit on the couch and maybe I'll text you let's.
00:21:31
Speaker 2: Order take out of watch a movie and I have to get dressed. Like that sounds ideal. The other thing that I didn't hit on is what I don't want is someone who doesn't have children. They either haven't had the opportunity to have children so they still want children, or they just genuinely don't want children. Right. I can't live in either one of those spaces been because I don't want any more children. And the other piece is I don't know that I could date someone who has never had a desire to have children, because then to incorporate them in my life because I love my children a whole lot and expect them to love them too, as prob not gonna happen, and either way of the spectrum, ben it will ultimately lead to resentment. And I'm not saying that in a negative way. I'm just pretty rational when it comes to that.
00:22:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've thought this through, You're gonna be a tough one because you've thought like, we can't trick you here, Like there's not like a no give him a shot? Maybe you know what?
00:22:19
Speaker 2: A lot of people are always like, oh my god, would you do the Bachelorette again? I'm like no, because when I was twenty six I was very naive. I am no longer very naive. I would stand up for myself and I have an opinion and I feel really strongly about that.
00:22:41
Speaker 1: What are some red flags that stand out to you? If there's any that you've kind of figured out in a human that right away is like Nope, not going to work.
00:22:51
Speaker 2: A grown man who lives at home with his mom and dad. That's wild, pretty tough at this age. Someone who you know. I don't know that I was ever taught to have a conversation, but I believe there is a point in conversation where you you ask genuine questions if you want to get to know someone. And so someone who you sit down to talk to and doesn't ask you a single question about yourself, that to me is a red flag, like that they don't try to get to know me. And again, I try to be really graceful, because I could get to know the wall in this room Ben really well and walk out of here and think that was a great conversation. But someone that you sit down with and speak to for thirty minutes or an hour and they don't ask you one thing about yourself, to me, that's a red flag.
00:23:37
Speaker 1: You're the easiest date in the world, by the way. I mean, all I would have to do is show up and ask you one question and then I would Yeah, I'd be like awesome, Like all the stress is gone. So anybody listening that will be maybe added to this show. Just think of like four or five good questions for the first date when you're super nervous and let things fly, like just sit back and relax.
00:24:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, she's I got Smiths shoes. Another one is eye contact. That's really important to me. I have always thought from her young age is someone who cannot hold or make eye contact is a huge red flag to me because if you're looking at it scientifically, it usually means that they're a liar. And the other piece is it also tells confidence level. So I personally and again these are my things. So just stating that Ben, I don't I'm not saying this is everyone, and maybe this is a little judgmental on my part. I find it unattractive to be sitting with a man who cannot hold eye contact because that immediately tells me he's either not mature or he's not confident enough. And I don't care what you look like physically. Confidence is truly really attractive.
00:24:52
Speaker 1: Okay, that's my next question, and we're getting close to the end here because we're kind of getting an idea of what we're looking for. You just mentioned you said the words you don't care what they look like physically. Do you mean that statement or is that just you speaking out?
00:25:08
Speaker 2: Like?
00:25:08
Speaker 1: Is there physical attributes that you are at least attractive?
00:25:12
Speaker 2: Superficial humans that like I right, we're all self centered, we're all centers. There's a little bit in all of us. Okay, I say that meaning for me, confidence and personality is really important to me. It truly is. You could be the hottest guy and six foot three tall, dark and handsome, and have the complete worst personality possible, and that immediately turns me off. Okay, but I am also an adult woman and understand that physical attraction is important. I can usually usually again, I haven't dated in a long time. No, right off the bat, if I am physically attracted to someone, I can usually determine if I believe in the first fifteen to twenty minutes if it is worth a second date. And that would mean if I am physically attracted to someone and if the personality is there. I love a funny guy, love a funny guy. When I first came on to The Bachelor and and people were like, oh, Bob Guiney was our best Bachelor ever, and I was like, I don't get it. I don't get it. You know Bob really well. Two seconds into talking to Bob, I was like, oh, I bet you those girls were all up in his bed because he has the best personality and he's so funny.
00:26:26
Speaker 1: Rumors are they were the rumor.
00:26:28
Speaker 2: Hey listen, I have heard the rumors too. He is one of the naughtiest bachelors in the history of the show.
00:26:34
Speaker 1: But I get it.
00:26:36
Speaker 2: I get it. He's funny, he's charismatic, he's confident, you know, he's just all around a great guy. And yeah, that's important to me, Like I want that. I want that, and so but I also there has to be physical attraction and someone needs to listen.
00:26:51
Speaker 1: I get it.
00:26:51
Speaker 2: I'm on here. You're trying to find me a date, but someone also needs to be physically attracted to me. I'm not everyone's cup of tea, and that's okay.
00:26:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to Bob Guiney real quick. Bob guinea is down twenty five pounds currently, so this guy is not only getting more attractive with age, he's also still funny and confident. Goodness gracious, he's the man. He's the man. I love that guy. Okay, well, we're going to close up here with this. Now we've talked about the physical attributes, confidence, personality, caring, a conversation, a good listener. I mean, I think our options here are fairly expansive, which I'm excited about because I think there's a lot of really maybe uniquely interesting people who are great, who you maybe wouldn't have gone on a date with unless it was set up. And that's what I'm excited about when it comes to this experience is we get to kind of look and support you from behind the scenes.
00:27:46
Speaker 2: Okay, well, when you find me one Ben, make sure that he understands that chivalry is not dead. Okay, I'm from the South. I would love for someone to open up my car door for me.
00:27:55
Speaker 1: You know, my wife's dad opens up the car door for or mom at every stop we make when I'm there in the South.
00:28:04
Speaker 2: It's a big deal, wonderful. My high school boyfriend, I dated him for five years and there was not a door that I went through. He had lots of other issues, don't get me wrong, but there wasn't a door that I walked through that he didn't open it up for me. And I remember thinking like that, I just I just really appreciated that a man who puts a woman first, Right, that's I just to me, that's important. I would like that.
00:28:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's beautiful. Okay. So the big question, the one you probably have him and asked in a long time, what are your physical boundaries on a first day? And I'll make it easier for you to answer. If you're having a great time, let's start with the kiss. And somebody tries to kiss you on a first day at this point in your life, do you lean in or do you lean back?
00:28:50
Speaker 2: No, if I'm feeling it, I would kiss on a first date. I mean I've been I believe that it is well known at this point in my life that I am not a virgin. I've had at least two children.
00:29:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a headline. Yeah.
00:29:03
Speaker 2: No, if I'm feeling it and I'm attracted to someone and it's a great date, I'm down for a first kiss.
00:29:08
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:29:09
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little flirting, little touching right small of your back. You know, you want to feel like someone's attracted to you.
00:29:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially a concert. You said you didn't really know how to do it at a concert, like how to flirt and stuff.
00:29:21
Speaker 2: Listen. I tried to flirt in it did not go well. Listen. We saw these cute I don't know what it is about women with men in uniform, Like we're really into firefighters and police officers and military men. Just put us in a uniform. I did four tours to Iraq in Afghanistan when I was single, and it was like a kid in a candy land. Yeah, we try to flirt with these firefighters. They were not paying us any attention whatsoever. We're all dressed cute and around the beach and we're just feeling ourselves and we're listening to Gwenn, having our best times, and we purposely go and stand in front of these four firefighters and they're so cute. They don't pay us any attention whatsoever. So we turn around some there's all these kids smoking pod these days. I don't understand it, but just you know, it's freaks whatever. We kind of turn around and we look at them. We're like, not you guys smoking, is it? And they're like, no, we're on the job. Jokes on us then, you know, and that was it, Like they didn't pay us any more attention. We were kind of like, wh as we better go, you know.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this is gonna be fun. I can't wait for the audio at this thing when we hear what kind of pickup lines you're throwing.
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Speaker 2: Man, it's time to go.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is getting weird. Pull pull me. Uh. Thank you for being so open here about what you're attracted to, what you're into, what you're not into, what the future could look like. We are opening up the applications, We are sifting through all the prospects, and I am so excited to follow and kind of walk alongside this journey with you. But until the next time, thanks for joining today.
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Speaker 2: Thanks Jan you never know it
Speaker 1: iHeart Podcasts bring you the ultimate Summer of Love Tree. This is famously available. Welcome back the on it to the podcast. Now. Recently we sent you to Wingo Tango. It's an amazing concert. I've been many times. That was back in May, and you got to hang out at the beach and start to see what you like, what you're interested in. Again, today we're here as we get this whole thing kicked off to kind of figure out what your type is, or for our listeners to just understand more what your type is. So let's start with just the overview of everything. How was Wingo Tango.
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Speaker 2: Oh, it was a lot of fun. I haven't been to a concert in a really long time, and it was so fun. I really, all I care about is squin Stephanie, and I was just hoping she would play some of her old school No Doubt stuff. So it was actually really funny because Rachel and Genevieve, who are significantly younger than I am, were there and we had I mean we were right next to the stage. We were like just having the best time ever. And some of her newer stuff the girls knew, but when she started playing some of that No Doubt stuff. The girls were like, yeah, no, I have no clue what this song is. Said here I am living my best almost forty four year old life and she's playing like all of my high school favorites and we knew every single word and we're jumping up and down, and poor Genevieve she was like, yeah, I don't know this song at all, Like she had no clue any of the songs that Gwyn was playing.
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Speaker 1: So Genevieve is one of my favorite people, by the way, that I've ever hung out with in Vacherination. She is hilarious, and then you got to see Rachel as well. The two of them together is a power team. Did they know? Do they know your current situation that you are mingling and looking to potentially find a nice little dating partner.
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Speaker 2: Genevieve was a little confused. So that was the first time that I met Genevieve, And yes, she's delightful, and she also was on the prowl, so you know, we were like working beside each other to try and find anything remotely attractive. And Rachel I adore and she's also super great. But Rachel knows about the podcast and was super stoked Genevieve. I kind of had to explain a little bit what was going on, and she was like, okay, cool, yeah, let's find you a husband. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no no, I'm in it for different reasons this time around. So but Rachel, yeah, she was on the prow for me because it has been so long been since I have been in the dating scene that I kind of didn't know what to do. Like, I'm pretty good on my own, I'm pretty fun I'm funny, I like to have a good time, but like, I don't know how to interact with the opposite sex anymore, I'm realizing because I haven't dated in so long, and Rachel was like on the lookout, trying to find me anyone to flirt with, any cute guy to talk to, and I just like it was like I clammed up and I frozen. I didn't know what to do.
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Speaker 1: Okay, that's where we're going to start then, because I think this is a very relatable and interesting topic. I didn't love dating. I didn't I wasn't great at it. It made me a lot more anxious than what I think was healthy. I would have good sometimes really good times on dates, but leading up to those dates, it's all I can think about, Like I just couldn't like roll in, relax and have a good time. So this is a skill set. I think it is a muscle that needs to be practiced and worked on to get back out there again. You haven't done it. Let's just call it what it is. You're not great at dating right now because you haven't done it in so long. How are you going to get okay at dating again? How are you going to get this muscle flexed and worked out?
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Speaker 2: I don't know, Ben, and I believe that our listeners are going to be quite surprised to hear this because you're talking to two people here who went on national television to date and find they're forever lasting love. So I always think that, and I'm I'm relatively an outgoing human being. I'm very extroverted. I thrive on being with friends and being able to do social events and stuff with other people. But I am with you. I didn't love dating even when I was single, and I actually didn't love it when I was a bachelorette because I found it very hard to focus on multiple people at a time. I'm not a very good serial dater at that, like I don't. I can't focus really on more than one person at a time, and I most of that is just myself because I'm incredibly loyal and I need to just have one one thing, one man, one person to kind of put my time in energy in. I'm not very good at like disassociating when it comes to one person to another, to another and all of that. And I also don't like dating in the sense of going and sitting down at dinner and having to get to know someone you know like, which is weird for me because I truly can get to know a wall. Ben, like you could sit here for the next forty five minutes and not say a word and I'll believe this and be like, Ben is so great. We just had the most wonderful conversation ever.
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Speaker 1: Please do job very easy.
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Speaker 2: See see, So I can get to know someone and I can do a date. And I guess that's why I'm drawn to this Ben doing the podcast where someone else will do the betting for me, hopefully some good betting, and send me on dates with some really great people that a connection might be there. Because I'm also not I'm one of those women that I believe that chivalry is not dead. I'm not necessarily the girl in the grocery store who walks up to the handsome guy and is like, oh my god, hello, I'm divorce and single, are you Like? I don't do that. I wait to be approached, and I like for the man to be a man and to take the lead. I very much want that. I think that I am. I have so many parts of my life that I have to be really organized and I have to be in charge of and I have to lead all of those places and those pieces in my career and with the kids and paying bills and things like. I have to be an adult. And I think that the one thing that I have always desired in a relationship is for a man to do that part. I would love to be. And I'm going to use the word submissive, which I hate because I am not a submissive human being. Like I'm very much I'm a very strong, independent woman. But I think there is a place in a relationship that I've always crazed, craved, I'm sorry for a man to take the lead. That's the one place I don't really want to have to be in charge. And maybe that's why I'm still here, although you know, I haven't been able to find that. But and maybe that's ultimately why I went on the Bachelor and became the bachelorette. It was a unique space to meet someone to hopefully have a long lasting relationship, and so that's why I jumped on this opportunity too, because you know, when I'm at home, I have my kids, and when I'm at work, I'm traveling the world. And I love both of those pieces of my life and I'm in charge of those pieces, and those pieces I can control, but I don't necessarily go out and meet guys to date to have that kind of part of my life. And so maybe that's why I jumped on this being able to do the podcast, because I like being able to give that control to you or anyone else that set me up on a date and hopefully it's somebody really great and it turns into something and I don't have to do the legwork to get there. Does that make sense?
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Speaker 1: It makes a lot of sense. There's a lot of questions I want to ask from what you just said, but I think through this process, you know, you and I are just getting familiar with each other. And how this is going to work. I've always believed with any of my girlfriends who are still single or have been single and have been a part of my life, my job is to not spew advice. One I don't have like the ultimate advice to give everybody. But I can ask questions that sometimes ruffle feathers, that sometimes bring to light maybe something you said or something you're doing to make us all think about it, and maybe you can convince me you know this is the right way to do it. I think the first part of this is you have just laid out your life currently and on the last time we sat down, you laid that same life out and you said, I have these kind of structures, these parts of my life where I have my kids and I'm focused on my kids and I love my kids. I have my job and I'm focused on my career and I love my career, and I get to travel the world. And then I have this really fun time where like maybe those two things aren't happening at you know, neither of them are existing for a couple of days, and you really love your alone time. Where are you going to find the space or let's ask you the question that I think so many want to know, do you actually want to find the space again?
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Speaker 2: I do. I do, Actually, I really do. Something that I've said from the moment that I decided I was ready to start it to date again, because I think I shared with you before, I wasn't in that capacity for a really long time. I really chose and I have done this throughout every relationship that I've had. I really sit in a space of myself and find my again, and I really grieve that stuff. I am not one to go back to relationships like once they are done, they're done for me. I'm not someone who lives in the past. I heard this recently that when you the past is depression, right to past his depression, future is anxiety that we all have to live in the present, right And I don't go back. I don't when relationships come to an end, I don't go back. And I really utilize that space to sit with myself and to grieve and to find myself again and learn how to be, you know, and myself a woman alone, you know what I mean. And I'm really okay with that. So I didn't date for a really long time. I didn't have any interest in it. I was with Stephen for fifteen years. I was really at a loss when that marriage came to an end, and I think that that's okay. I had no desire to jump into another relationship, to focus on another human being, to pour into them, to make them feel loved and cared for, because I needed to do that for myself. I needed to do that for my children. They had been through a lot. And so I am just now in a space where I feel like I am personally ready to open that up. And for me, that's really great, and I feel really, you know, powerful in saying that, because I would have been doing not just myself a disservice, but another human being before a disservice, to just utilize them for a period of time. Because now I can say that I'm ready to do that now, I understand your question about clarity with my career, right. I'm not opposed to having someone that I genuinely care about in my children's life. It just had to be the right person. So, and what I mean by that is that I don't want a revolving door for my children. In no way, shape or form. I need to date someone for a significant period of time before I have them even around my children at all, you know, And that's something that I can control, and that something that I will do for myself and for them, and I believe that that is really important to them. I do not want them to see every person that I date. I don't want them to see a revolving door of men come in and out of my house. They don't need a stepdaddy, right they have a dad. So I am going to be really picky about that person that I choose to invest my time in, let alone have around my children. So I think once that groundwork is there, then it will be easier for me to make those spaces in my life combined right with my children, someone to live in my daily life, and I really want that. In the meantime, I might have to get creative, you know, and the times that I am home and I'm not working and I don't have my children, that's a great time for me to date. Or I have always really wanted a partner that would like to travel the world with me. I love my job, Ben, and I love to travel the world. I love to see different cultures, different parts of the world. For parts of the United States. I live for that and I have always genuinely wanted someone who would enjoy doing that with me, and I've never had that. I've never ever had that, not even in my marriage. And so I also think that if that's a place for creativity, if I'm able to find someone that I really like, why not meet me when I'm in Cabo and date in Mexico. Why not meet me when I'm across the world in South Africa and let's go on a safari. I would really like to meet someone that has the ability to do that. The financial stability to do that would also be really cool. I'm not looking to be someone's sugar Mama Ben. I realized that might come as a shock. Yeah, you know, and that's a big ask.
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Speaker 3: I realized that's a big ask for someone.
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Speaker 1: Before we start the rapid fire here and kind of diving into what you're most attracted to, I want to remind you of something. It has been fifteen sixteen years since you were in the dating pool, and as you were talking, I reminded myself of this. And in fact, about six months ago, I had a friend who's thirty one. She was wanting to find relationships so bad. She's always struggled with it, and she called me and said, I've met somebody and I think this is the right person for me. And here's why they think it's the right person for them. And I actually think this is simple and brilliant all at the same time. And it's something we forget because you know, we'll talk about red flags in a bit. We'll talk about, as the kids say today, the ick. What gives you the ick? Like those things that throw you off. Here's how she knew. And they're gonna get married. They're engaged now. She wanted to be around that person you just said it. Like the space. There'll be people you date where you're like, I really have no desire to see them tomorrow on my off day, But then all of a sudden, there might be somebody that comes through You're like, oh my gosh, I cannot wait to see that person. Like this isn't a responsibility, this isn't a burden, this isn't a struggle. And I want to remind you of that because it's been a bit. But that feeling does exist, and I think it really is a big factor on is this the right person or not? Do I want to see them tomorrow or the next.
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Speaker 2: Day, I a thousand percent agree with you, because I only barely dipped my toe into dating in the last year. I tried the dating apps for a hot minute that was it's just worse than anything else in the whole world. Ben But I remember saying that to myself. You know, my girlfriends were super excited for me, because thankfully, my friends think I'm pretty great, and they would like for me to find someone really great. And when I would go on a date, they'd be like, oh, you know, what do you think, Or like when I would come home from a trip, you know, a guy would be like, let's go get dinner. And I would say that to myself. If I really liked someone, I would want to hang out with them. I would want to use my spare time to be with them. And I have not experienced that. When I come home from a trip, I have not found anyone. Not that I've dated a lot, Okay, only a few people, but none of those few people have I come home from a trip and thought I'd love to go out and see that person and grab dinner. No, I couldn't wait to take my shoes off and lie on my own couch and make myself dinner and eat alone and watch what I wanted on television, like I knew in my heart of hearts that should tell me something.
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Speaker 1: I agree, No, I think that's a good marker. We are going to work our hardest to find you some incredible people to date, and you will date them, and they might be incredible and you might have something with them or you might not. That is not the pressure that you need to feel or should feel. That's part of dating. And I think that's what's so fun about this show is going to give people an insight. And as you said, you're great at describing and explaining your feelings and your emotions and your thoughts on what you were into and what you weren't. And I think a lot of people are going to relate with it when they listen and say, wait, I felt that same way. Now she's putting words to what I felt in a way I could never do it. And that's what I'm excited about. But I want to dive in here, uh to find out kind of what we're looking for when we go out here on our search. It's not going to be a hard search. I have a feeling there's going to be many men going hey, I would like to date her. But let's start with an easy softball question. When I ask you, who is your celebrity crush, first person that comes to mind.
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Speaker 2: I hate this question. Then I don't have one.
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Speaker 1: I truly, yes, you do. Who do you find attractive? Then? Are you a George Clooney? Are you a brad person?
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Speaker 2: Are you no?
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Speaker 1: Who was I looking at the other day that I was like, goodness, that dude is handsome.
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Speaker 2: I mean, they're handsome. I think this is Okay, let me. This is a bad question for me because in my career I have flown a lot of celebrities and I am not I'm the least fangirl kind of person. I never had that. You know, everybody has that like list that that that list that even if you were with someone, you could sleep with those people your crush. I just, yeah, I don't have any of that. I really don't. Like. I can appreciate handsome, but like, yeah, I've never thought I want to haul pass to be able to sleep with bread.
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Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair. Okay, Then let's start with this you mentioned on the last episode, and it's clear to your friends and your followers and your fans that your faith is really important to you, and it is not just a faith of words, but this is a not only a lifestyle. This has your relationship with your faith has changed your life from the inside out. So as a result, is faith a massive I don't want to say issue that makes face sound like an issue. Is faith important to you and your next partner?
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Speaker 2: It's very important for me if I am going to date someone long term and have a long term relationship, partnership, companionship with someone. Yeah, I ideally would like to date someone who believes in God and believes in Jesus. That's what I do. I want. I envision myself to holding a man's hand at church on Sundays like I would really love that. So ultimately, long term for me, those things have to coincide.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think it's it adds a depth to the relationship. How in the world are you supposed to confront any type of difficult conversation if the two of you aren't coming from a similar place. And this is what we believe about humans, and this is what we believe about the world around us. So I do think it adds a depth for long standing relationships.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I start my day in prayer, and I end it in prayer, and I would love to do that with someone.
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Speaker 1: I think that's fair. Okay, that's good. That's a really good marker. As we begin this, and you know, in the same breath we've seen it. You know more and more where you know there's single dads out there, they're they're wanting to date, and they're they're speaking the same kind of language you're speaking, where it's like, I don't I want to date, but I don't know if I have the time or the space, the abilities. When you think about a single dad with kids, still raising children, is that something that's attractive to you. Is that something that's just the Hey, that's cool, or is this a no, a non starter like I can't also add in those kids.
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Speaker 2: No, it's super attractive to me, been for many reasons. For starters. They will understand what I'm going through. They will understand my lifestyle. They will understand that some days, a date does not mean dinner at six o'clock. It means let's grab coffee after we drop our children off at school. Let's get lunch on Wednesday, because our children don't get out until two thirty in the afternoon. So for me, that's really attractive for that like scheduling piece, but also for someone who doesn't have children, they'll, I mean, and I say this in the kindest way possible, They're never going to be able to understand when I say, no, you know what, my children need me tonight, I can't meet you this evening. They might be kind about it, but for me, I think that there will come a point where that will become a point of resentment because I'm always going to choose my kids over someone else. I'm just going to I'm their mom and those are my kids. So there's also that emotional piece that for me, a single dad is going to understand that that first and foremost, I'm a single mom and my children are really important to me, and a single dad we'll also get that. So there's a scheduling piece, there's the emotional piece, and then I would like to think at some point, if it gets to that, then there's the piece of combining families, you know what I mean. Like that, ultimately, if I'm looking really far down the road and I don't have anyone, you know what I mean. But in my mind, when I'm looking at the long term and down the road of things. That's what I would like to have. Someone who understands parenthood because again I've shared with you, I don't want more children. I will be forty four this year. I have no desire to be pregnant again and breastfeeding for another year year and the lack of sleep and up every few hours. You know it very well, Ben, I don't have a desire to do that again. But I think I can be a really incredible stepmom. I think I can.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's always so beautiful no matter what life has brought. You know, these people together to see, you know, you go to the zoo and you see you can tell two families having fun. Usually the kids are very similar in age, which doesn't like always get to exist when you know, because you wait a year or two years to have your next kid. So sometimes there's like similar age groups that can play together and have fun together. I think it's a beautiful thing. And I get what you're saying too. When it talk when you talk about space and when you talk about obligations, and when you talk about the things that are important to you, somebody with kids will get that. They'll understand it. It won't have to be explained to them. They'll be like, I get it. Yeah, that's fine. Actually, tonight I wanted to sit at home too, because I haven't been without the kids for the last two weeks. I'm exhausted. So yeah, I'm going to sit on the couch and maybe I'll text you let's.
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Speaker 2: Order take out of watch a movie and I have to get dressed. Like that sounds ideal. The other thing that I didn't hit on is what I don't want is someone who doesn't have children. They either haven't had the opportunity to have children so they still want children, or they just genuinely don't want children. Right. I can't live in either one of those spaces been because I don't want any more children. And the other piece is I don't know that I could date someone who has never had a desire to have children, because then to incorporate them in my life because I love my children a whole lot and expect them to love them too, as prob not gonna happen, and either way of the spectrum, ben it will ultimately lead to resentment. And I'm not saying that in a negative way. I'm just pretty rational when it comes to that.
00:22:10
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've thought this through, You're gonna be a tough one because you've thought like, we can't trick you here, Like there's not like a no give him a shot? Maybe you know what?
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Speaker 2: A lot of people are always like, oh my god, would you do the Bachelorette again? I'm like no, because when I was twenty six I was very naive. I am no longer very naive. I would stand up for myself and I have an opinion and I feel really strongly about that.
00:22:41
Speaker 1: What are some red flags that stand out to you? If there's any that you've kind of figured out in a human that right away is like Nope, not going to work.
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Speaker 2: A grown man who lives at home with his mom and dad. That's wild, pretty tough at this age. Someone who you know. I don't know that I was ever taught to have a conversation, but I believe there is a point in conversation where you you ask genuine questions if you want to get to know someone. And so someone who you sit down to talk to and doesn't ask you a single question about yourself, that to me is a red flag, like that they don't try to get to know me. And again, I try to be really graceful, because I could get to know the wall in this room Ben really well and walk out of here and think that was a great conversation. But someone that you sit down with and speak to for thirty minutes or an hour and they don't ask you one thing about yourself, to me, that's a red flag.
00:23:37
Speaker 1: You're the easiest date in the world, by the way. I mean, all I would have to do is show up and ask you one question and then I would Yeah, I'd be like awesome, Like all the stress is gone. So anybody listening that will be maybe added to this show. Just think of like four or five good questions for the first date when you're super nervous and let things fly, like just sit back and relax.
00:24:00
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, she's I got Smiths shoes. Another one is eye contact. That's really important to me. I have always thought from her young age is someone who cannot hold or make eye contact is a huge red flag to me because if you're looking at it scientifically, it usually means that they're a liar. And the other piece is it also tells confidence level. So I personally and again these are my things. So just stating that Ben, I don't I'm not saying this is everyone, and maybe this is a little judgmental on my part. I find it unattractive to be sitting with a man who cannot hold eye contact because that immediately tells me he's either not mature or he's not confident enough. And I don't care what you look like physically. Confidence is truly really attractive.
00:24:52
Speaker 1: Okay, that's my next question, and we're getting close to the end here because we're kind of getting an idea of what we're looking for. You just mentioned you said the words you don't care what they look like physically. Do you mean that statement or is that just you speaking out?
00:25:08
Speaker 2: Like?
00:25:08
Speaker 1: Is there physical attributes that you are at least attractive?
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Speaker 2: Superficial humans that like I right, we're all self centered, we're all centers. There's a little bit in all of us. Okay, I say that meaning for me, confidence and personality is really important to me. It truly is. You could be the hottest guy and six foot three tall, dark and handsome, and have the complete worst personality possible, and that immediately turns me off. Okay, but I am also an adult woman and understand that physical attraction is important. I can usually usually again, I haven't dated in a long time. No, right off the bat, if I am physically attracted to someone, I can usually determine if I believe in the first fifteen to twenty minutes if it is worth a second date. And that would mean if I am physically attracted to someone and if the personality is there. I love a funny guy, love a funny guy. When I first came on to The Bachelor and and people were like, oh, Bob Guiney was our best Bachelor ever, and I was like, I don't get it. I don't get it. You know Bob really well. Two seconds into talking to Bob, I was like, oh, I bet you those girls were all up in his bed because he has the best personality and he's so funny.
00:26:26
Speaker 1: Rumors are they were the rumor.
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Speaker 2: Hey listen, I have heard the rumors too. He is one of the naughtiest bachelors in the history of the show.
00:26:34
Speaker 1: But I get it.
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Speaker 2: I get it. He's funny, he's charismatic, he's confident, you know, he's just all around a great guy. And yeah, that's important to me, Like I want that. I want that, and so but I also there has to be physical attraction and someone needs to listen.
00:26:51
Speaker 1: I get it.
00:26:51
Speaker 2: I'm on here. You're trying to find me a date, but someone also needs to be physically attracted to me. I'm not everyone's cup of tea, and that's okay.
00:26:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to Bob Guiney real quick. Bob guinea is down twenty five pounds currently, so this guy is not only getting more attractive with age, he's also still funny and confident. Goodness gracious, he's the man. He's the man. I love that guy. Okay, well, we're going to close up here with this. Now we've talked about the physical attributes, confidence, personality, caring, a conversation, a good listener. I mean, I think our options here are fairly expansive, which I'm excited about because I think there's a lot of really maybe uniquely interesting people who are great, who you maybe wouldn't have gone on a date with unless it was set up. And that's what I'm excited about when it comes to this experience is we get to kind of look and support you from behind the scenes.
00:27:46
Speaker 2: Okay, well, when you find me one Ben, make sure that he understands that chivalry is not dead. Okay, I'm from the South. I would love for someone to open up my car door for me.
00:27:55
Speaker 1: You know, my wife's dad opens up the car door for or mom at every stop we make when I'm there in the South.
00:28:04
Speaker 2: It's a big deal, wonderful. My high school boyfriend, I dated him for five years and there was not a door that I went through. He had lots of other issues, don't get me wrong, but there wasn't a door that I walked through that he didn't open it up for me. And I remember thinking like that, I just I just really appreciated that a man who puts a woman first, Right, that's I just to me, that's important. I would like that.
00:28:26
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's beautiful. Okay. So the big question, the one you probably have him and asked in a long time, what are your physical boundaries on a first day? And I'll make it easier for you to answer. If you're having a great time, let's start with the kiss. And somebody tries to kiss you on a first day at this point in your life, do you lean in or do you lean back?
00:28:50
Speaker 2: No, if I'm feeling it, I would kiss on a first date. I mean I've been I believe that it is well known at this point in my life that I am not a virgin. I've had at least two children.
00:29:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a headline. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: No, if I'm feeling it and I'm attracted to someone and it's a great date, I'm down for a first kiss.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, a little flirting, little touching right small of your back. You know, you want to feel like someone's attracted to you.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, especially a concert. You said you didn't really know how to do it at a concert, like how to flirt and stuff.
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Speaker 2: Listen. I tried to flirt in it did not go well. Listen. We saw these cute I don't know what it is about women with men in uniform, Like we're really into firefighters and police officers and military men. Just put us in a uniform. I did four tours to Iraq in Afghanistan when I was single, and it was like a kid in a candy land. Yeah, we try to flirt with these firefighters. They were not paying us any attention whatsoever. We're all dressed cute and around the beach and we're just feeling ourselves and we're listening to Gwenn, having our best times, and we purposely go and stand in front of these four firefighters and they're so cute. They don't pay us any attention whatsoever. So we turn around some there's all these kids smoking pod these days. I don't understand it, but just you know, it's freaks whatever. We kind of turn around and we look at them. We're like, not you guys smoking, is it? And they're like, no, we're on the job. Jokes on us then, you know, and that was it, Like they didn't pay us any more attention. We were kind of like, wh as we better go, you know.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, this is gonna be fun. I can't wait for the audio at this thing when we hear what kind of pickup lines you're throwing.
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Speaker 2: Man, it's time to go.
00:30:31
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is getting weird. Pull pull me. Uh. Thank you for being so open here about what you're attracted to, what you're into, what you're not into, what the future could look like. We are opening up the applications, We are sifting through all the prospects, and I am so excited to follow and kind of walk alongside this journey with you. But until the next time, thanks for joining today.
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Speaker 2: Thanks Jan you never know it