June 14, 2026
Celebrity Parenting Is Hard, Just Ask Brad Pitt and David Beckham
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RSS Feed There have been numerous headlines over the past few days of Brad Pitt’s children dropping Pitt from their last names. So far, 3 of his 6 children have legally pursued their name changes, with his twins dropping Pitt’s name from their diplomas and playbills. We go over the only public statement one of his children has made as to the status of their relationship, and it’s brutal. Much like the situation with David Beckham and his eldest son, Brooklyn, who was a no show at Beckham’s big moment in LA this week, getting his star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Beckham had the perfect response to reporters who asked about Brooklyn’s absence following that eviscerating instagram post he made about his parents earlier this year.
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Speaker 1: Hey, that folks. It is Sunday, June fourteenth, and Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt have six kids together. But why is it that five out of the six don't seem to want anything to do with their dad, at least when it comes to his name. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Rohaps I got my numbers right. They have six kids together, and I keep seeing a headline up the headline after headline, kid after kid after kid is dropping Pitt from their name.
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Speaker 2: That's true.
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Speaker 3: And you mentioned six kids, all six of them seem to be estranged from their father. And it's interesting the one who hasn't seemed to make a move to change his last name is the one who has been the most outspoken against Brad Pitt. So look, right now, this is it. It's we're getting a little public insight into privately what has had to be an exceptionally difficult time for these kids. Because that's a big step to make, to decide when you turn eighteen to drop your father's last name.
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Speaker 2: That's a choice that.
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Speaker 3: I believe Angelina Jolie herself made and now interestingly, it's happening with her children.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I guess I should start for it was my first because I want to be careful here. This is a I want to make sure we're going to talk about just what is public and not just speculate and do rumors and do tabloid headline kind of a thing. But the facts are what they are, and these facts keep coming out, and the latest has been a few of the latest. So who was the latest to come out and say they're dropping their names?
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Speaker 2: So Knox.
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Speaker 3: So this is Brad Pitt's biological son, his only biological son, Knox. He is seventeen. He will be eighteen next month, in July July twelfth. Actually both Knox and Vivian, they're the twins. They're going to turn eighteen on July twelfth. What made headlines recently A couple of things. First of all, Knox on his high school diploma, he just graduated from high school and it was noted he only went by Knox Jolie, and before then he had been Knocks Jolie Pitt. Now his twin sister, Vivian just a little while ago, I guess two years ago when she was on in The Outsiders, the Broadway show The Outsiders back in twenty twenty four, she in her playbill listed her name as Vivian Jolie.
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Speaker 1: Okay, and that made headlines at the time. I re read with that one. So these two are about to graduate high school. The headline is because he has now dropped the pit on the diploma and it's already hers would have already been dr I was already dropped already.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 3: The first person to legally do this, this is interesting was their first born biological child, Shiloh in May of twenty twenty four. She had just turned eighteen, so literally like within days of her turning eighteen, she went to go legally remove Pitt from her last name. So she was the first in May of twenty twenty four, so she would be twenty now she is twenty eight now, she was eighteen. Then she did it immediately. She did it immediately, So she did that then. I believe next was Vivian who appeared in that playbill. She dropped Pitt from her name, and then we heard from just in the last two months May of this year, Maddix filed paperwork to drop Pitt.
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Speaker 2: From his last name, citing personal reasons.
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Speaker 3: He's going to court actually for it in September, and then just this month, a few days ago, June ninth, Zahara filed paperwork to request a new name minus Pitt.
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Speaker 1: Okay, help me with Maddis and Zahara the names, and well, excuse me the ages yep, And again I was struggling to keep them straight. How many adopted? How many?
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Speaker 3: So Maddix is twenty four, Pax is twenty two, Zahara is twenty one. Those are the three legally adopted children, Brad, Pitt and Angelina, both of them were legal parents for Maddix, Packs and Zahara. Then comes their biological children. Shiloh is twenty knocks about to turn eighteen, Vivian about to turn eighteen. So everyone by next month is a full blown adult.
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Speaker 1: Has any have they come out and explained the dropping of the name officially, everybody has their speculation this and that, But what have they actually said about it?
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Speaker 2: They have not said anything.
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Speaker 3: Now. The only person who said anything was Pax, and I believe, and like I said, I searched everywhere to see if Pax had dropped the Jolie Pitt name. And there's no one who is saying that. But if you recall when Brad Pitt won his Oscar in twenty twenty, he actually in his acceptance speech said, this is all for my kids. My kids are everything right. So Pas on Father's Day, just a short while later, had the screen grab of Brad Pitt with his oscar in his hand, and this.
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Speaker 2: Is what he put out. This is the only known.
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Speaker 3: Response or st by any of the kids about this state of their relationship with their father. So Pax wrote, Happy Father's Day to this world class ahole, except for he used the actual word. You time and time again proved to be a terrible and despicable person. You have no consideration or empathy toward your four youngest children, who tremble in fear, when in your presence you have made the lives of those closest to me a constant hell. You may tell yourself in the world whatever you want, but the truth will come to light some day. So Happy Father's Day, you effing awful human being. He put that out on his Instagram stories.
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Speaker 1: That's tough.
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Speaker 2: It's horrific.
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Speaker 1: Ah We sure that authentic.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Jesus, Absolutely, it's horrific. And so now you're seeing that was six years ago. He put that out and now you're seeing one by one by one, and it was almost like Shiloh started the movement, and now one by one, all of them, as they graduate from high school, as they start to enter their lives into adulthood, they are dropping Pitt from their name. And that you know, we don't know, We have no idea what goes on behind closed doors, but we know that this divorce was contentious. It was more than eight years of legal proceedings. And it's just sad because we know we've been through divorces and you can divorce a woman or a man, but you never want to divorce your children.
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Speaker 2: That's never. They have nothing to do with the divorce.
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Speaker 1: And I have right you you said, Maddox is the only one that hasn't no Packs?
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Speaker 2: The pas? Who just who's old.
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Speaker 1: Enough to change the name? It hasn't who? Which one is that?
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Speaker 3: Pax who just the statement I just read that was so eviscerating. He is the only one who I have not seen anywhere has made a legal move.
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Speaker 1: To change this last what Pax is the only one who said something correct publicly. Bro this is what the hell? Who is Packs? Now? Tell me as much as we can about Packs and how old is Pax.
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Speaker 2: Pax is twenty two.
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Speaker 1: This is wow. You don't want anybody to think that about you, but your own child, and to feel it strongly enough to put it out publicly. Knowing who you're father is, knowing who your mother is and what that means robes that is um, that.
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Speaker 3: Is alarming, and that's a choice he made, yes, and it's disturbing because look, when Angelina was with Billy Bob, she was twenty six. I believe when she actually went and adopted Maddox on her own. Then she went and adopted Zahara on her own. Then they had Shiloh. But I believe it was either while she was pregnant with Shiloh or right she and Brad went and adopted packs together, so he adopted all of the other the other two as well, but he like went with Angelina to go get packs and packs in Shilo, everyone's really close in age. I mean they range from twenty four to eighteen, but it's twenty four to twenty two, twenty one, twenty and then almost eighteen.
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Speaker 2: So these kids are a close pack.
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Speaker 3: And every time you see Angelina, she's got one or some or all of them. But they all do seem like this bruce that sticks together.
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Speaker 1: I remember them younger, I've remember with them. It was adorable. They had their little United Nations yelling around with them and.
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Speaker 3: We had usually had one of them on his shoulders holding one of their hands.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's.
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Speaker 3: So sad to see just we don't again, we don't know.
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Speaker 2: We know the allegations.
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Speaker 3: There was allegations about something something happening on a private plane to the point where I know child services were called. There were allegations that Brad was physical with I believe it was Maddox on the plane. And look, they did the investigation, and just want to make sure that it's very much said here. While he was accused of physically abusing Maddox, who was fifteen at the time, child welfare officials investigated. Obviously, Brad denied all the allegations and he was cleared of any wrongdoing. So they couldn't prove anything or have any sort of evidence against him, and so they dropped any investigation against him, and he was clear again cleared of all wrongdoing.
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Speaker 2: But obviously some things have occurred. Something went on.
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Speaker 3: That these kids feel like they don't want a relationship with their father, which is incredibly sad.
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Speaker 1: That is I mean, it's just sad on any human level. We have no idea. But this is a guy we look at and we celebrate, absolutely, we adore and we champion and we applaud and we go to his movies and he was just a recent Noscar nominee. I mean, Rome just going and he continues to be at the top of his game. It's sixty whatever it is. But I don't Romes. You never know what's going on behind the scenes. People are entitled to their private matters, but this is one. This is one of the biggest stars in our lifetime movie stars who was in a relationship that was one of the biggest Hollywood marriages we've ever seen.
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Speaker 3: It was, and it's interesting to think. Obviously their relationship started with the big controversy of him being married with Jennifer Aniston. The two of them in the movie Mister and Missus Smith, which one of your favorite movies. But they reportedly fell in love during that movie and you can see it, Oh my god, you can see it in the movie. Their chemistry is off the charts. So yeah, and then people were either team Angelina or team Jen for the longest time. But yeah, this was just this is such a part of our lives and watching this man who yes, we adore.
00:10:14
Speaker 1: But he recovered from that scandal. He did because people do you what's her name on the show of Friends?
00:10:21
Speaker 2: Oh, Jennifer Aniston, Well, no, I'm friends.
00:10:23
Speaker 1: What was the name of her character? I'm Friends?
00:10:26
Speaker 2: Oh, now you're putting in with Rachel Rachel.
00:10:30
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, everybody loved Rachel. Yeah, you're going to do Rachel wrong.
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Speaker 2: Exactly. People still love.
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Speaker 3: Rachel, love some Rachel all her haircut everywhere, and as much as.
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Speaker 1: People loved Brad Pitt, they loved her so much more that they turned their back on him. You are not going to do her wrong. People loved Angelina Joel at the time, but he was the one that took the worst hit and it took him a while robes, but he did get back into the good graces of the public and with movies and going to he he's a phenomenal actor and well he's made great movies, but ropes through all that he had come back. Don't get me wrong, he was his career was never in the dumps, because.
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Speaker 3: No, I don't I don't remember a time when he was not ever not ostracized or canceled.
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Speaker 1: But no, yeah, but if you had a moment to where his popularity went down a little bit, his likability because of that holes, Absolutely he came back into being lovable to us again. It was okay to put it your arms around him. This more so than anything, man this time becomes the kids and all of them, all of.
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Speaker 3: Them, all of them. It appears now because there were always there. It was very private, but people had always said that it appeared as though he still was visiting with the twins, like that was still that relationship, that door was still open. But it looks like That's why I think this made such big headlines. The fact that Knocks now dropped Pitt from his name as well, that made huge, huge headlines. And so there is this expectation that come July, when the twins turn eighteen, they will follow in their siblings footsteps and drop his last name as well. And look, this is a guy who went to rehab. He's clean and sober, he's he's turned his life around. So we don't know what what his evolution has been like. And look, we can only hope because we know this we've lived this in anybody.
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Speaker 2: Who has who as a parent or who has a child.
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Speaker 3: Understands that it's always better if you can find a way back, if you can find a way to a relationship. It's so sad to see estrangement like that because it no one is served well by it. It's it's sad to see and you know what, you see this publicly played out and they're just I mean, I hate to say it, but they're just like us. I mean, celebrities are not immune from all of these issues and familial problems and divorce, and maybe even more so because they're under the microscope and everyone's watching.
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Speaker 1: Mean, I just that just makes me sad. I don't know what's going on, but it makes me say and maybe it's I don't know, maybe it sounds better to just have was it Pit Pitch?
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Speaker 3: It was because part of some of their Instagram accounts, the kids were JP was the end.
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Speaker 2: So that's how they kind of like they had their name and then JP.
00:13:07
Speaker 1: Maddox pit jo versus Maddix Jolie Pitt. What sounds better Maddix.
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Speaker 2: I think Maddox.
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Speaker 3: Jolie Pitt is what they ended up doing because that's more traditional with the man's name at the ending, which, oh yeah, it is a pretty name. And you know what, think about it, Angelina dropped to Voight. She never had Voight. John Vodes her father, and man Knox looks just like him. It's so you mentioned that. You look at him and you're thinking, oh, my goodness, that's John Voight.
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Speaker 1: Wow, in that family, you hate I just as a dad, you know it. Just that's the thing. Man. When it comes to the kids, and especially the girls, an the idea of a rejection of dad. And he's got six kids who are publicly saying we don't want to be affiliated with him.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't want your name attached two hours.
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Speaker 2: It is crazy.
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Speaker 3: Now. This all, by the way, just played out with this high school graduation this week, but something else was playing out in Los Angeles with another celebrity family. When we come back, we'll tell you about David Beckham getting his star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and why it was bittersweet and welcome back everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ. We are talking about two major, larger than life celebrities with public disputes with their kids playing out for the world to see. We told you what's happening with Brad Pitt, and it looks like pretty much all of his six kids are now walking down that legal path of removing his last name from theirs. And then you've got the Beckhams. David Beckham probably one of the biggest moments of his life, and his son Brooklyn, their oldest has If you remember, in January again, the Instagram stories just put out a series of eviscerating messages for the world to read that his parents were liars, manipulators, saboteurs who were trying to break him and his wife apart. I mean, just horrific things that nobody wants to hear, but certainly no one wants anyone else to read about. And so yes, he's there in La on Friday, surrounded by three of his four kids and his wife of nearly thirty years, minus Brooklyn getting his Hollywood star on the Walk of Fame.
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Speaker 1: That's to be expected. They they are essentially have no relationship now.
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Speaker 3: Right According to Brooklyn, he not only has no relationship with his parents, he said he never wants one.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's what he said.
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Speaker 1: What did he blame this all originally because he had some skating stuff.
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Speaker 3: He talked about if you recall saying his parents were controlling him, that they were doing a levying, a pr campaign against his bride to beat. They talked about the wedding dress debacle, the wedding dance debacle. He went after Victoria. They, I mean, the whole thing about David's fiftieth birthday party. It was they Brooklyn aired all of their dirty laundry.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so what is this we're seeing? Are we seeing? Are these two guys, these two families, right, let's just go a Brad Pitt and David Beckham the guys themselves, are we supposed to believe and suggests that they are bad guys, that they are something so negative behind the scenes. They're so controlling, so manipulative and so I don't know, even violent to some degree. The accusation that was.
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Speaker 2: The bad accusation.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like he's just so explosive and mean behind the scenes. These guys who are adored by millions around the world. Are we supposed to read anything other than maybe one of the options is robes. Growing up in the shadow of an intern national star is difficult.
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Speaker 3: It is, and in both of those families you have two international stars like you are never, as a child of theirs, going to be normal or have a normal experience. And certainly, like you said, living in this shadow of will you ever rise to the level of your parents? Certainly, how could you surpass their fame, their fortune? And maybe that just feels hopeless, and maybe there's anger and resentment.
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Speaker 2: Ironically, most people.
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Speaker 3: Would think, what a dream to be raised with money to spare and VIP treatment everywhere you go. But obviously it has another darker side, obviously, And look this is and I felt for David Beckham because obviously he's doing interviews about getting this big, amazing honor, and I actually wanted to read for you what he said in his speech, because he he was very humbled and very grateful, but of course he's asked questions about why Brooklyn isn't there. First his speech, he said, my parents and my sisters who always supported my dreams, Victoria, my amazing wife for thirty years, without whom none of this would be possible or as enjoyable. And my beautiful children, who are the reason that I get out of bed in the morning. Kids, I'm going to get emotional now. I hope you bring my grandchildren here one day and tell them about a boy who dreamed big. To make you all proud is my greatest achievement. I'm so grateful for you all. So he's literally dedicating this to his kids. And of course people are going to ask about Brooklyn. Where's Brooklyn? And so he just said that matter is private. He just shut down the questions asked about Brooklyn. And then the headlines. Just this is what I hate all said David Beckham refuses to answer where Brooklyn is or why Brooklyn was absent, and that becomes the headline instead of the fact that he was being honored for his achievement.
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Speaker 2: And so that is what you know.
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Speaker 3: And I don't know if Brooklyn thinks, yes, I got them, But that's just it's sad because that is always going to be hanging over his head. And that's the last thing I think David Beckham or Brad Pitt care about, Like the headlines. I'm only assuming that they would want nothing more than a relationship with their children, like that would be the human most obvious thing that they would want. Forget about the headlines, but those headlines have to sting and knowing everywhere you go in every interview you take, you're gonna get asked and it's just tough.
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Speaker 1: That was a great answer by mister Beckham. However, that private, that matter is.
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Speaker 2: Private, matter is private.
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Speaker 1: Forwards, that was what you know, what I'm saying. That is remarkable, That matter is private. Next question, That is well done. But again that's just like you said, their dads.
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Speaker 2: I have sympathy for both of them, and but we don't know.
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Speaker 1: But you tell them, we're sitting from afar looking. We have no idea. All six of those kids might have horror stories. Yeah we have. I have no idea. Might You're right, and that all of us would never go to another brandfit movie. Who knows. But again, it's behind closed doors. It's family and family is tough. Family is ugly, and when what happened in that house sometimes becomes public or these kids have been headlines since before they were born.
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Speaker 3: Yes, and they have very public personas, whether they want to have them or not.
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Speaker 2: And now we've got.
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Speaker 3: Kids who have access to social media where they can say anything, do anything, repeat anything, and maybe even make up whatever they want to justify how they feel. But yeah, this is one of the negative sides of social media when kids use it to air their grievances, I don't think if they were any older, if they had a little time lived, a little more life, would they be willing, even if they're angry at their father, to air it the way they did.
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Speaker 2: Both on both sides, it's.
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Speaker 3: Tough and I can only hope that they'll regret that eventually and perhaps that could be a way forward to reconciliation.
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Speaker 2: But we always appreciate you listening to us. Everyone. I'm Amy Robot alongside TJ. Holmes. We will talk to you soon.
Speaker 1: Hey, that folks. It is Sunday, June fourteenth, and Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt have six kids together. But why is it that five out of the six don't seem to want anything to do with their dad, at least when it comes to his name. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Rohaps I got my numbers right. They have six kids together, and I keep seeing a headline up the headline after headline, kid after kid after kid is dropping Pitt from their name.
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Speaker 2: That's true.
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Speaker 3: And you mentioned six kids, all six of them seem to be estranged from their father. And it's interesting the one who hasn't seemed to make a move to change his last name is the one who has been the most outspoken against Brad Pitt. So look, right now, this is it. It's we're getting a little public insight into privately what has had to be an exceptionally difficult time for these kids. Because that's a big step to make, to decide when you turn eighteen to drop your father's last name.
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Speaker 2: That's a choice that.
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Speaker 3: I believe Angelina Jolie herself made and now interestingly, it's happening with her children.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I guess I should start for it was my first because I want to be careful here. This is a I want to make sure we're going to talk about just what is public and not just speculate and do rumors and do tabloid headline kind of a thing. But the facts are what they are, and these facts keep coming out, and the latest has been a few of the latest. So who was the latest to come out and say they're dropping their names?
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Speaker 2: So Knox.
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Speaker 3: So this is Brad Pitt's biological son, his only biological son, Knox. He is seventeen. He will be eighteen next month, in July July twelfth. Actually both Knox and Vivian, they're the twins. They're going to turn eighteen on July twelfth. What made headlines recently A couple of things. First of all, Knox on his high school diploma, he just graduated from high school and it was noted he only went by Knox Jolie, and before then he had been Knocks Jolie Pitt. Now his twin sister, Vivian just a little while ago, I guess two years ago when she was on in The Outsiders, the Broadway show The Outsiders back in twenty twenty four, she in her playbill listed her name as Vivian Jolie.
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Speaker 1: Okay, and that made headlines at the time. I re read with that one. So these two are about to graduate high school. The headline is because he has now dropped the pit on the diploma and it's already hers would have already been dr I was already dropped already.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 3: The first person to legally do this, this is interesting was their first born biological child, Shiloh in May of twenty twenty four. She had just turned eighteen, so literally like within days of her turning eighteen, she went to go legally remove Pitt from her last name. So she was the first in May of twenty twenty four, so she would be twenty now she is twenty eight now, she was eighteen. Then she did it immediately. She did it immediately, So she did that then. I believe next was Vivian who appeared in that playbill. She dropped Pitt from her name, and then we heard from just in the last two months May of this year, Maddix filed paperwork to drop Pitt.
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Speaker 2: From his last name, citing personal reasons.
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Speaker 3: He's going to court actually for it in September, and then just this month, a few days ago, June ninth, Zahara filed paperwork to request a new name minus Pitt.
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Speaker 1: Okay, help me with Maddis and Zahara the names, and well, excuse me the ages yep, And again I was struggling to keep them straight. How many adopted? How many?
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Speaker 3: So Maddix is twenty four, Pax is twenty two, Zahara is twenty one. Those are the three legally adopted children, Brad, Pitt and Angelina, both of them were legal parents for Maddix, Packs and Zahara. Then comes their biological children. Shiloh is twenty knocks about to turn eighteen, Vivian about to turn eighteen. So everyone by next month is a full blown adult.
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Speaker 1: Has any have they come out and explained the dropping of the name officially, everybody has their speculation this and that, But what have they actually said about it?
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Speaker 2: They have not said anything.
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Speaker 3: Now. The only person who said anything was Pax, and I believe, and like I said, I searched everywhere to see if Pax had dropped the Jolie Pitt name. And there's no one who is saying that. But if you recall when Brad Pitt won his Oscar in twenty twenty, he actually in his acceptance speech said, this is all for my kids. My kids are everything right. So Pas on Father's Day, just a short while later, had the screen grab of Brad Pitt with his oscar in his hand, and this.
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Speaker 2: Is what he put out. This is the only known.
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Speaker 3: Response or st by any of the kids about this state of their relationship with their father. So Pax wrote, Happy Father's Day to this world class ahole, except for he used the actual word. You time and time again proved to be a terrible and despicable person. You have no consideration or empathy toward your four youngest children, who tremble in fear, when in your presence you have made the lives of those closest to me a constant hell. You may tell yourself in the world whatever you want, but the truth will come to light some day. So Happy Father's Day, you effing awful human being. He put that out on his Instagram stories.
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Speaker 1: That's tough.
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Speaker 2: It's horrific.
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Speaker 1: Ah We sure that authentic.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Jesus, Absolutely, it's horrific. And so now you're seeing that was six years ago. He put that out and now you're seeing one by one by one, and it was almost like Shiloh started the movement, and now one by one, all of them, as they graduate from high school, as they start to enter their lives into adulthood, they are dropping Pitt from their name. And that you know, we don't know, We have no idea what goes on behind closed doors, but we know that this divorce was contentious. It was more than eight years of legal proceedings. And it's just sad because we know we've been through divorces and you can divorce a woman or a man, but you never want to divorce your children.
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Speaker 2: That's never. They have nothing to do with the divorce.
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Speaker 1: And I have right you you said, Maddox is the only one that hasn't no Packs?
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Speaker 2: The pas? Who just who's old.
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Speaker 1: Enough to change the name? It hasn't who? Which one is that?
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Speaker 3: Pax who just the statement I just read that was so eviscerating. He is the only one who I have not seen anywhere has made a legal move.
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Speaker 1: To change this last what Pax is the only one who said something correct publicly. Bro this is what the hell? Who is Packs? Now? Tell me as much as we can about Packs and how old is Pax.
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Speaker 2: Pax is twenty two.
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Speaker 1: This is wow. You don't want anybody to think that about you, but your own child, and to feel it strongly enough to put it out publicly. Knowing who you're father is, knowing who your mother is and what that means robes that is um, that.
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Speaker 3: Is alarming, and that's a choice he made, yes, and it's disturbing because look, when Angelina was with Billy Bob, she was twenty six. I believe when she actually went and adopted Maddox on her own. Then she went and adopted Zahara on her own. Then they had Shiloh. But I believe it was either while she was pregnant with Shiloh or right she and Brad went and adopted packs together, so he adopted all of the other the other two as well, but he like went with Angelina to go get packs and packs in Shilo, everyone's really close in age. I mean they range from twenty four to eighteen, but it's twenty four to twenty two, twenty one, twenty and then almost eighteen.
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Speaker 2: So these kids are a close pack.
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Speaker 3: And every time you see Angelina, she's got one or some or all of them. But they all do seem like this bruce that sticks together.
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Speaker 1: I remember them younger, I've remember with them. It was adorable. They had their little United Nations yelling around with them and.
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Speaker 3: We had usually had one of them on his shoulders holding one of their hands.
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's.
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Speaker 3: So sad to see just we don't again, we don't know.
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Speaker 2: We know the allegations.
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Speaker 3: There was allegations about something something happening on a private plane to the point where I know child services were called. There were allegations that Brad was physical with I believe it was Maddox on the plane. And look, they did the investigation, and just want to make sure that it's very much said here. While he was accused of physically abusing Maddox, who was fifteen at the time, child welfare officials investigated. Obviously, Brad denied all the allegations and he was cleared of any wrongdoing. So they couldn't prove anything or have any sort of evidence against him, and so they dropped any investigation against him, and he was clear again cleared of all wrongdoing.
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Speaker 2: But obviously some things have occurred. Something went on.
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Speaker 3: That these kids feel like they don't want a relationship with their father, which is incredibly sad.
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Speaker 1: That is I mean, it's just sad on any human level. We have no idea. But this is a guy we look at and we celebrate, absolutely, we adore and we champion and we applaud and we go to his movies and he was just a recent Noscar nominee. I mean, Rome just going and he continues to be at the top of his game. It's sixty whatever it is. But I don't Romes. You never know what's going on behind the scenes. People are entitled to their private matters, but this is one. This is one of the biggest stars in our lifetime movie stars who was in a relationship that was one of the biggest Hollywood marriages we've ever seen.
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Speaker 3: It was, and it's interesting to think. Obviously their relationship started with the big controversy of him being married with Jennifer Aniston. The two of them in the movie Mister and Missus Smith, which one of your favorite movies. But they reportedly fell in love during that movie and you can see it, Oh my god, you can see it in the movie. Their chemistry is off the charts. So yeah, and then people were either team Angelina or team Jen for the longest time. But yeah, this was just this is such a part of our lives and watching this man who yes, we adore.
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Speaker 1: But he recovered from that scandal. He did because people do you what's her name on the show of Friends?
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Speaker 2: Oh, Jennifer Aniston, Well, no, I'm friends.
00:10:23
Speaker 1: What was the name of her character? I'm Friends?
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Speaker 2: Oh, now you're putting in with Rachel Rachel.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, everybody loved Rachel. Yeah, you're going to do Rachel wrong.
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Speaker 2: Exactly. People still love.
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Speaker 3: Rachel, love some Rachel all her haircut everywhere, and as much as.
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Speaker 1: People loved Brad Pitt, they loved her so much more that they turned their back on him. You are not going to do her wrong. People loved Angelina Joel at the time, but he was the one that took the worst hit and it took him a while robes, but he did get back into the good graces of the public and with movies and going to he he's a phenomenal actor and well he's made great movies, but ropes through all that he had come back. Don't get me wrong, he was his career was never in the dumps, because.
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Speaker 3: No, I don't I don't remember a time when he was not ever not ostracized or canceled.
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Speaker 1: But no, yeah, but if you had a moment to where his popularity went down a little bit, his likability because of that holes, Absolutely he came back into being lovable to us again. It was okay to put it your arms around him. This more so than anything, man this time becomes the kids and all of them, all of.
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Speaker 3: Them, all of them. It appears now because there were always there. It was very private, but people had always said that it appeared as though he still was visiting with the twins, like that was still that relationship, that door was still open. But it looks like That's why I think this made such big headlines. The fact that Knocks now dropped Pitt from his name as well, that made huge, huge headlines. And so there is this expectation that come July, when the twins turn eighteen, they will follow in their siblings footsteps and drop his last name as well. And look, this is a guy who went to rehab. He's clean and sober, he's he's turned his life around. So we don't know what what his evolution has been like. And look, we can only hope because we know this we've lived this in anybody.
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Speaker 2: Who has who as a parent or who has a child.
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Speaker 3: Understands that it's always better if you can find a way back, if you can find a way to a relationship. It's so sad to see estrangement like that because it no one is served well by it. It's it's sad to see and you know what, you see this publicly played out and they're just I mean, I hate to say it, but they're just like us. I mean, celebrities are not immune from all of these issues and familial problems and divorce, and maybe even more so because they're under the microscope and everyone's watching.
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Speaker 1: Mean, I just that just makes me sad. I don't know what's going on, but it makes me say and maybe it's I don't know, maybe it sounds better to just have was it Pit Pitch?
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Speaker 3: It was because part of some of their Instagram accounts, the kids were JP was the end.
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Speaker 2: So that's how they kind of like they had their name and then JP.
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Speaker 1: Maddox pit jo versus Maddix Jolie Pitt. What sounds better Maddix.
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Speaker 2: I think Maddox.
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Speaker 3: Jolie Pitt is what they ended up doing because that's more traditional with the man's name at the ending, which, oh yeah, it is a pretty name. And you know what, think about it, Angelina dropped to Voight. She never had Voight. John Vodes her father, and man Knox looks just like him. It's so you mentioned that. You look at him and you're thinking, oh, my goodness, that's John Voight.
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Speaker 1: Wow, in that family, you hate I just as a dad, you know it. Just that's the thing. Man. When it comes to the kids, and especially the girls, an the idea of a rejection of dad. And he's got six kids who are publicly saying we don't want to be affiliated with him.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't want your name attached two hours.
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Speaker 2: It is crazy.
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Speaker 3: Now. This all, by the way, just played out with this high school graduation this week, but something else was playing out in Los Angeles with another celebrity family. When we come back, we'll tell you about David Beckham getting his star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and why it was bittersweet and welcome back everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ. We are talking about two major, larger than life celebrities with public disputes with their kids playing out for the world to see. We told you what's happening with Brad Pitt, and it looks like pretty much all of his six kids are now walking down that legal path of removing his last name from theirs. And then you've got the Beckhams. David Beckham probably one of the biggest moments of his life, and his son Brooklyn, their oldest has If you remember, in January again, the Instagram stories just put out a series of eviscerating messages for the world to read that his parents were liars, manipulators, saboteurs who were trying to break him and his wife apart. I mean, just horrific things that nobody wants to hear, but certainly no one wants anyone else to read about. And so yes, he's there in La on Friday, surrounded by three of his four kids and his wife of nearly thirty years, minus Brooklyn getting his Hollywood star on the Walk of Fame.
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Speaker 1: That's to be expected. They they are essentially have no relationship now.
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Speaker 3: Right According to Brooklyn, he not only has no relationship with his parents, he said he never wants one.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's what he said.
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Speaker 1: What did he blame this all originally because he had some skating stuff.
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Speaker 3: He talked about if you recall saying his parents were controlling him, that they were doing a levying, a pr campaign against his bride to beat. They talked about the wedding dress debacle, the wedding dance debacle. He went after Victoria. They, I mean, the whole thing about David's fiftieth birthday party. It was they Brooklyn aired all of their dirty laundry.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so what is this we're seeing? Are we seeing? Are these two guys, these two families, right, let's just go a Brad Pitt and David Beckham the guys themselves, are we supposed to believe and suggests that they are bad guys, that they are something so negative behind the scenes. They're so controlling, so manipulative and so I don't know, even violent to some degree. The accusation that was.
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Speaker 2: The bad accusation.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like he's just so explosive and mean behind the scenes. These guys who are adored by millions around the world. Are we supposed to read anything other than maybe one of the options is robes. Growing up in the shadow of an intern national star is difficult.
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Speaker 3: It is, and in both of those families you have two international stars like you are never, as a child of theirs, going to be normal or have a normal experience. And certainly, like you said, living in this shadow of will you ever rise to the level of your parents? Certainly, how could you surpass their fame, their fortune? And maybe that just feels hopeless, and maybe there's anger and resentment.
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Speaker 2: Ironically, most people.
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Speaker 3: Would think, what a dream to be raised with money to spare and VIP treatment everywhere you go. But obviously it has another darker side, obviously, And look this is and I felt for David Beckham because obviously he's doing interviews about getting this big, amazing honor, and I actually wanted to read for you what he said in his speech, because he he was very humbled and very grateful, but of course he's asked questions about why Brooklyn isn't there. First his speech, he said, my parents and my sisters who always supported my dreams, Victoria, my amazing wife for thirty years, without whom none of this would be possible or as enjoyable. And my beautiful children, who are the reason that I get out of bed in the morning. Kids, I'm going to get emotional now. I hope you bring my grandchildren here one day and tell them about a boy who dreamed big. To make you all proud is my greatest achievement. I'm so grateful for you all. So he's literally dedicating this to his kids. And of course people are going to ask about Brooklyn. Where's Brooklyn? And so he just said that matter is private. He just shut down the questions asked about Brooklyn. And then the headlines. Just this is what I hate all said David Beckham refuses to answer where Brooklyn is or why Brooklyn was absent, and that becomes the headline instead of the fact that he was being honored for his achievement.
00:19:00
Speaker 2: And so that is what you know.
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Speaker 3: And I don't know if Brooklyn thinks, yes, I got them, But that's just it's sad because that is always going to be hanging over his head. And that's the last thing I think David Beckham or Brad Pitt care about, Like the headlines. I'm only assuming that they would want nothing more than a relationship with their children, like that would be the human most obvious thing that they would want. Forget about the headlines, but those headlines have to sting and knowing everywhere you go in every interview you take, you're gonna get asked and it's just tough.
00:19:33
Speaker 1: That was a great answer by mister Beckham. However, that private, that matter is.
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Speaker 2: Private, matter is private.
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Speaker 1: Forwards, that was what you know, what I'm saying. That is remarkable, That matter is private. Next question, That is well done. But again that's just like you said, their dads.
00:19:55
Speaker 2: I have sympathy for both of them, and but we don't know.
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Speaker 1: But you tell them, we're sitting from afar looking. We have no idea. All six of those kids might have horror stories. Yeah we have. I have no idea. Might You're right, and that all of us would never go to another brandfit movie. Who knows. But again, it's behind closed doors. It's family and family is tough. Family is ugly, and when what happened in that house sometimes becomes public or these kids have been headlines since before they were born.
00:20:25
Speaker 3: Yes, and they have very public personas, whether they want to have them or not.
00:20:31
Speaker 2: And now we've got.
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Speaker 3: Kids who have access to social media where they can say anything, do anything, repeat anything, and maybe even make up whatever they want to justify how they feel. But yeah, this is one of the negative sides of social media when kids use it to air their grievances, I don't think if they were any older, if they had a little time lived, a little more life, would they be willing, even if they're angry at their father, to air it the way they did.
00:21:02
Speaker 2: Both on both sides, it's.
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Speaker 3: Tough and I can only hope that they'll regret that eventually and perhaps that could be a way forward to reconciliation.
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Speaker 2: But we always appreciate you listening to us. Everyone. I'm Amy Robot alongside TJ. Holmes. We will talk to you soon.