Sept. 12, 2026
Brutal Instagram Divorce Announcement From Reality Star; How NOT To Mix Social Media And Breakups
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RSS Feed 90 Day Fiancé Star Ashley Michelle publicly asked for a divorce from her husband Manuel, one day before their 4 year wedding anniversary. In an instagram post, Michelle put up a picture from their wedding, demanded a divorce, told him not to come back to the house and tagged him. Michelle isn’t the only celebrity who has taken to social media to post about a break up, the most recent, Meghan Thee Stallion; but experts have some sage advice to anyone who is tempted to air their dirty laundry. Simply put, put that phone down immediately after a fight or breakup because two wrongs never make a right.
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Speaker 1: Hey there, folks.
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Speaker 2: It is Saturday, September 12th, and obviously there's no easy way to get the news from your spouse that they want a divorce. But you sure as hell don't want to see it on Instagram. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Did somebody really announce that they want a divorce on social media?
00:00:29
Speaker 3: Yes, this just happened, and it's a couple that we actually have been following and watching. Many of you may know that we are big fans of 90 Day Fiancé. We love us a 90 Day Fiancé.
00:00:43
Speaker 1: All versions. Before the 90 Day, after the 90 Day, the Tell All, the Beach Resort, whatever. We're all about it.
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Speaker 3: Yes, and so one of the couples that we followed for years are Ashley and Manuel. So if you all know the show, it's Ashley Michelle- and Manuel Velez. And Ashley, she stands out to us because she's from Minnesota. And so she is fluent, amazing in Spanish. Her fiance now, husband Manuel, is from Ecuador. but she would always be like, yo, Kiero. She said it in the most hilarious American Midwestern accent speaking Spanish. She didn't even try to have a Spanish accent.
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Speaker 2: I've never quite heard someone do that because she was so fluent. She was so good at her Spanish, but not an ounce of anything other than Midwest.
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Speaker 3: Yo me llamo Ashley. It was very funny, but she nailed it every time. Anyway, this week on Instagram, Just ahead of their fourth wedding anniversary, and we're always rooting for these couples, she put up a beautiful picture of their wedding, which we watched on television, a beautiful beach wedding, with this caption. What a shame. Tomorrow is our four-year anniversary, and I'm officially asking for a divorce. I have felt unsupported by you for years, and now when I am in my most vulnerable state, you have done nothing to support me. I am done. Do not come back to this house at Jesus Negrita Velez Rojas. Literally put his Instagram handle on the announcement. And people went wild in the comments, like, is this for real? She did. We don't know if she's officially filed divorce. No one has seen that yet. But she actually asked for the divorce and told him not to come back home on an Instagram post that now is at about 20,000 likes.
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Speaker 1: Is that for real?
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Speaker 2: I mean, do we really, are we supposed to feel that the first time he got a heads up about a divorce is in that post?
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Speaker 3: It does appear that way, or at least she wants us to all think that. And so then Manuel, on his Instagram to respond, uploaded a picture of him hiking, actually in a nature area I've hiked at. I was like, oh, wow, that's in Ithaca, New York. He's going through a very famous hike. He just shows the hike. He shows a little bit of himself. And then on his Instagram story, he shows another nature photo of that same hike and says on his story, while others want to make statements, I just want peace and quiet. people kind of said that was an awesome way to respond i.
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Speaker 2: Mean this is this sounds like every man woman fight i've ever heard.
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Speaker 3: Of i mean it's funny but it's crazy and it's sad and look for those of you who don't know ashley and manuel they're from season 10 and they met over a decade ago she studied abroad in ecuador she met manuel at a new year's eve party and They broke up after she moved back to the States, but they stayed pen pals. They still kept in touch. And eventually they kind of fell in love over their pen pal state, decided to try again, went through the 90 day fiance process and they married in 2022. We certainly saw them have their fights. I think that's the cool thing about the show. You get to see. All the problems in everyone's relationship. And it does make you feel a little bit better. Literally every single relationship has problems. And they get even harder right before people get married, typically, because there's so much stress. There's so much pressure. And they're doing it in front of the cameras. But I really rooted for these two. They were funny together.
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Speaker 1: I didn't realize they had made it four years.
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Speaker 3: Four years they made it together. And so, look, what led to the split? Everyone's trying to piece it together because if you go on Ashley's.
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Speaker 1: Wait, we'll get to reactions too, right?
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Speaker 3: Oh, yes.
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Speaker 1: I will pull up the Instagram. We'll have that.
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Speaker 3: All right, go ahead. Yes, but two weeks before their split, she posted. Look, her whole Instagram page is her weight loss journey. She was not happy with her weight, and so she had gone through a massive transformation. And it's cute because you can go on her Instagram and see Manuel in the gym with her, trying to work out with her, trying to keep up with her. She lost a ton of weight. She looks like a baddie. She's got muscles. She's fit. She's fierce. And oftentimes when you lose a bunch of weight, you have a lot of loose skin and all of that. So she went in two weeks ago, got a tummy tuck and a breast lift. And you even can see Manuel helping her in her hospital gown getting into the surgery. So he was with her all along. But when she refers to, you have done nothing to support me in my most vulnerable state, she obviously is talking about this surgery and the recovery from this surgery, which is really difficult. So that is what people are believing she's referring to, but we don't know exactly what he did or what he didn't do. But she is reeling. Look, anyone who's had a massive surgery knows this is really, really hard. My mom just had a tough surgery. We're actually here with her right now. And yes, you do need extra support from your spouse. And she's claiming he gave her none. And that was it. So she told the world on Instagram that she is divorcing Manuel.
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Speaker 2: Was there anything leading up? I mean, she's posting so much stuff. Were there signs of trouble on Instagram, on social media before this?
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Speaker 1: This came out of the blue.
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Speaker 3: I don't know because people are shocked. And if you go look up articles, people are trying to figure out what led to it. And they can't really figure it out. But some people wrote on her thing. I have seen it from the beginning of the show. You need a partner, not someone you have to mother constantly. Your evolution in the past couple of years has greatly surpassed his growth since he came to America. Someone said, I know you're getting a lot of congratulation comments. I mean, women are cheering her on, saying, way to go. Drop him. Drop the man. Get rid of him. But this one, this woman wrote, but I also know even if this is for the best, your heart is still hurting. I could tell you really loved that man and gave him your whole heart. I just wanted to be the one in the comments saying it's okay to be sad about it, even if it's what needs to happen. And Ashley wrote back. I appreciate that. So look, people are, people are honestly, it's kind of surprising or maybe it isn't surprising to you, but they are all, it seems fully in support of her. I mean, Her other comments on her post, a couple thousand, she has 20,000 likes. You have worked way too hard on yourself to accept the bare minimum from any human being. let alone someone who's supposed to be your biggest support system. You deserve someone who praises you the way you praise others. This is the whole deserve things. And you've said this often. Women will support other women in these types of moments when women are down and they're upset about their man. And you say almost to their own detriment. You've felt like you've seen it happen plenty of times.
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Speaker 2: Well, it could go both ways, right? A woman could be very into a guy that might be bad for her. And all the women around will Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's OK.
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Speaker 2: We can make the same excuses. And then I've seen it on the other side where it's not going well. Yeah, to hell with him. And there's not there's sometimes not a fair and impartial.
00:08:08
Speaker 1: I guess, voice in the room sometimes.
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Speaker 3: Right, because they're just there to comfort the woman, comfort our girlfriend, and say men are horrible, men are bad. And that is honestly what I'm seeing on here, basically saying I know what it's like not to be supported. A lot of people, a lot of breakups happen during cosmetic surgery recovery. Is that true?
00:08:28
Speaker 2: My question, are people, they're supporting her, right, and what she wants to do moving forward.
00:08:35
Speaker 1: Is there much talk about doing it this way?
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Speaker 3: So a couple of people have written in. I was just about to get to that. This is so cringe to post to Instagram and tag him. She wrote back to that person, I said what I said. And then someone else wrote, not as cringe as being a bad husband. So then other women went to go stand up for her when someone called her out. Someone else called her out and said, to be honest, good for you, but I'm sorry, this isn't something you post on social media with, like, question marks. And someone said, it's even crazier going down the comments and seeing literally everyone say, congrats, you deserve better. That's no one's place to say. So now, you know, people are going back and forth about that. But I have to say, I was shocked at how little shade she got for doing this. I would have thought more people would have said, girl, I get it. Things happen, but why do you have to put it out like that and tag him?
00:09:29
Speaker 2: She obviously, she can do whatever she wants to do and doesn't necessarily need to be criticized for it. Even if someone else might do it differently. And, but the thing is we have no idea what happened behind the scenes and what has been happening behind the scenes. This is not a matter of taking up for him. Just when things happen like this, she's completely like he's done. I mean, he's, He's completely demonized, cannot defend himself, and that's fine. But I just hate when these things, when it happens like this, and everybody just a mob mentality. I have no idea what he did, but she said it.
00:10:02
Speaker 1: He's a monster. And that's the end of the story.
00:10:04
Speaker 3: And that is probably what she wanted to happen. And she wanted the public support. And that's why she chose to do it this way. But there are real life consequences for throwing someone under the bus publicly like that, shaming them publicly. tagging them so that people then go on his page. And by the way, people have gone on his page and started trolling him and saying, you're a horrible husband. Why didn't you support your wife? So yes, if that's what she wanted, that's what happened. It is tough.
00:10:35
Speaker 2: Everybody do their own thing. It's just, we don't know. And everything she said might be true. This, the damage that does, she loved him enough to do all this with him. and to stay married to him for four years, and now I want to make sure I hurt you at the end. A lot of people might say, well, you don't know what he did to her.
00:10:58
Speaker 1: Yes, I don't, and that's the point.
00:11:01
Speaker 3: And I will also say you and I both have been through breakups and public ones at that. But we always say this, and this is the one truth that comes from all of this. You don't know someone is until you divorce them. And so even if they're the most loving, wonderful people while you're in a relationship with them, when people get hurt, people do things to hurt back. And that is what we see happen oftentimes. And by the way, Ashley Michelle, just the latest. When we come back, remember Megan Thee Stallion? She broke up with Klay Thompson in a very public and damaging way. Megan Fox, Selena Gomez, Justin Bieber. There are a bunch of celebrities who have done this exact same thing. Welcome back, everyone. Yes, Ashley may have asked for a divorce from Manuel, our 90-day fiancé couple that we followed for so long on Instagram this week. But not that long ago, Megan Thee Stallion, we did a whole thing on this. Remember accusing Klay Thompson of all sorts of stuff? He never clapped back.
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Speaker 1: Not once.
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Speaker 2: And I appreciate that, but it leaves that void for everybody to fill in the blanks to.
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Speaker 1: Call him whatever. He can't defend himself. And he hasn't.
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Speaker 3: And she got specific. Her post was cheating, had me around your whole family playing house, got cold feet, holding you down through all your horrible mood swings and treatment towards me during your basketball season. Now you don't know if you can be monogamous. Bitch, I need a real break after this one. Bye, y'all. And that is how she broke up with him. In front of Everybody. Megan Fox did the same thing. She started she split from Machine Gun Kelly after she shared a cryptic Instagram post and then deleted her account and let everyone know that something was up. But she did it on Instagram first. Selena Gomez and Justin Bieber. I didn't realize this. They had a very public Instagram beef. Justin threatened to make his Instagram private if the hate didn't stop after they broke up. Right. So Selena goes on to that post and says, if you can't handle the hate, then stop posting pictures of your girlfriend. It should be special between you two only. Don't be mad at your fans. And then Justin gets on to reply to her saying, it's funny to see people that used me for attention and still try to point the finger this way. So sad. So they were literally publicly beefing on each other's Instagram pages on comments.
00:13:33
Speaker 2: I'm going to be honest with you, baby. I forgot they dated. And there's a reason I forgot. I was trying to forget. Everybody's moved on. Why'd you have to bring this back?
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Speaker 3: Right? Well, how about Rihanna? I forgot about this one. She took a shot at all her exes in one post. And this was 10 years ago. Obviously, she's very happy now with Aesop Rocky. But she wrote in a post, none of my exes are married or in happy relationships. So it's safe to say that I wasn't a problem. LOL.
00:14:05
Speaker 1: We love her too much to criticize. That's kind of hilarious.
00:14:09
Speaker 3: Yes, but obviously the experts out there, relationship experts, say there are clear do's and don'ts when it comes to breaking up and social media. Look, and this is what they say. It's obvious. It is tempting. It is tempting to just put it out there, to get the support that you want, the public support. And a lot of celebrities know they have platforms and know they have fans. And so if they're hurt and they're feeling sad... to go out there and throw their ex under the bus or break up online or say they know they're going to get support. And that's why they do it because it's tempting. But they say the best thing you can possibly do if you are in the middle of a messy breakup is to go cold turkey. Do not even go on your social media because you might be tempted. So turn your phone off for at least a week. Keep it to yourself. They say it is never a good idea to post publicly about your breakup or to badmouth your ex. It doesn't ever end well. I think we know this intellectually, but maybe we have to be reminded.
00:15:12
Speaker 2: Do what everybody else does. Just call the tabloid. That works too.
00:15:17
Speaker 3: Right. I mean, this is what people do. But they say and this is this is about just being a good human being. However badly your ex may have treated you or however badly you think they treated you. Two wrongs do not make a right. And that is the golden rule when it comes to breakups and social media. Two wrongs do not make a right.
00:15:40
Speaker 2: And you would be sitting here with some group of girlfriends around you or some people might even be listening to it. whatever, if he blah, blah, blah, then he deserves that mindset. I just, I just wrote, just like you said, some folks know they have a platform. You, I'm going to sick my 5 million followers on you, babe. That is, it's not okay. And no matter what, baby, you cannot justify. That's an intentional move to do harm, baby.
00:16:10
Speaker 1: That stuff.
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Speaker 2: Every celebrity knows that. What those comments feel like, you've gone into depression over those comments. You avoid reading things because you can't handle it. And you're going to do that to somebody. Whatever she's going through, I don't know. So I don't know. And I shouldn't side with her or him. That's not what we're talking about. I just, I wish she hadn't.
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Speaker 3: It's tough, right? And I've been checking because she posted this midweek and I've checked every day to see if maybe she'd take it down. Maybe a cooler head would prevail. Nope. It's still up. And she is commenting on the comments. Like she is reacting to people who either support her or tell her. And I would tell you it's overwhelmingly in support of her because that's what women do. And I think that she knows and a lot of women know that they will get their team of girls around her to make her feel lifted up. But there is actually a real consequence to that. And whatever Manuel did or what he didn't do that was wrong, I still feel for the guy because there really isn't a good next move for him, for Klay Thompson, for any of the other men who get called out publicly for doing something that they really, like, how do you defend yourself in that situation?
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Speaker 2: Because at least in robes, we, know in some of these circumstances through our connections to people that some of these stories are absolutely not true. These guys, some of them are getting called out by big celebrities and big breakups and we know it's false. We actually know. Please say something. We were in the same position. We didn't know the game.
00:17:49
Speaker 3: We didn't say anything and we should have.
00:17:52
Speaker 2: Anybody who says I'm left-handed, I will defend it. I will hop on immediately and correct that record.
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Speaker 1: Nope, I'm a righty. It's that kind of thing. I mean, you don't know, babe.
00:18:04
Speaker 2: This stuff just gets going and Clay and Manuel will forever be stamped.
00:18:09
Speaker 1: You can't get it back.
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Speaker 3: It's really hard to get back. So just remember to be kind and that two wrongs don't make a right. However tempting it may feel in the moment, put down the phone, everybody. All right. And with that, we always appreciate you listening to us. I'm Amy Robach alongside TJ Holmes. We'll talk soon.
Speaker 1: Hey there, folks.
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Speaker 2: It is Saturday, September 12th, and obviously there's no easy way to get the news from your spouse that they want a divorce. But you sure as hell don't want to see it on Instagram. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Did somebody really announce that they want a divorce on social media?
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Speaker 3: Yes, this just happened, and it's a couple that we actually have been following and watching. Many of you may know that we are big fans of 90 Day Fiancé. We love us a 90 Day Fiancé.
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Speaker 1: All versions. Before the 90 Day, after the 90 Day, the Tell All, the Beach Resort, whatever. We're all about it.
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Speaker 3: Yes, and so one of the couples that we followed for years are Ashley and Manuel. So if you all know the show, it's Ashley Michelle- and Manuel Velez. And Ashley, she stands out to us because she's from Minnesota. And so she is fluent, amazing in Spanish. Her fiance now, husband Manuel, is from Ecuador. but she would always be like, yo, Kiero. She said it in the most hilarious American Midwestern accent speaking Spanish. She didn't even try to have a Spanish accent.
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Speaker 2: I've never quite heard someone do that because she was so fluent. She was so good at her Spanish, but not an ounce of anything other than Midwest.
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Speaker 3: Yo me llamo Ashley. It was very funny, but she nailed it every time. Anyway, this week on Instagram, Just ahead of their fourth wedding anniversary, and we're always rooting for these couples, she put up a beautiful picture of their wedding, which we watched on television, a beautiful beach wedding, with this caption. What a shame. Tomorrow is our four-year anniversary, and I'm officially asking for a divorce. I have felt unsupported by you for years, and now when I am in my most vulnerable state, you have done nothing to support me. I am done. Do not come back to this house at Jesus Negrita Velez Rojas. Literally put his Instagram handle on the announcement. And people went wild in the comments, like, is this for real? She did. We don't know if she's officially filed divorce. No one has seen that yet. But she actually asked for the divorce and told him not to come back home on an Instagram post that now is at about 20,000 likes.
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Speaker 1: Is that for real?
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Speaker 2: I mean, do we really, are we supposed to feel that the first time he got a heads up about a divorce is in that post?
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Speaker 3: It does appear that way, or at least she wants us to all think that. And so then Manuel, on his Instagram to respond, uploaded a picture of him hiking, actually in a nature area I've hiked at. I was like, oh, wow, that's in Ithaca, New York. He's going through a very famous hike. He just shows the hike. He shows a little bit of himself. And then on his Instagram story, he shows another nature photo of that same hike and says on his story, while others want to make statements, I just want peace and quiet. people kind of said that was an awesome way to respond i.
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Speaker 2: Mean this is this sounds like every man woman fight i've ever heard.
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Speaker 3: Of i mean it's funny but it's crazy and it's sad and look for those of you who don't know ashley and manuel they're from season 10 and they met over a decade ago she studied abroad in ecuador she met manuel at a new year's eve party and They broke up after she moved back to the States, but they stayed pen pals. They still kept in touch. And eventually they kind of fell in love over their pen pal state, decided to try again, went through the 90 day fiance process and they married in 2022. We certainly saw them have their fights. I think that's the cool thing about the show. You get to see. All the problems in everyone's relationship. And it does make you feel a little bit better. Literally every single relationship has problems. And they get even harder right before people get married, typically, because there's so much stress. There's so much pressure. And they're doing it in front of the cameras. But I really rooted for these two. They were funny together.
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Speaker 1: I didn't realize they had made it four years.
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Speaker 3: Four years they made it together. And so, look, what led to the split? Everyone's trying to piece it together because if you go on Ashley's.
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Speaker 1: Wait, we'll get to reactions too, right?
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Speaker 3: Oh, yes.
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Speaker 1: I will pull up the Instagram. We'll have that.
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Speaker 3: All right, go ahead. Yes, but two weeks before their split, she posted. Look, her whole Instagram page is her weight loss journey. She was not happy with her weight, and so she had gone through a massive transformation. And it's cute because you can go on her Instagram and see Manuel in the gym with her, trying to work out with her, trying to keep up with her. She lost a ton of weight. She looks like a baddie. She's got muscles. She's fit. She's fierce. And oftentimes when you lose a bunch of weight, you have a lot of loose skin and all of that. So she went in two weeks ago, got a tummy tuck and a breast lift. And you even can see Manuel helping her in her hospital gown getting into the surgery. So he was with her all along. But when she refers to, you have done nothing to support me in my most vulnerable state, she obviously is talking about this surgery and the recovery from this surgery, which is really difficult. So that is what people are believing she's referring to, but we don't know exactly what he did or what he didn't do. But she is reeling. Look, anyone who's had a massive surgery knows this is really, really hard. My mom just had a tough surgery. We're actually here with her right now. And yes, you do need extra support from your spouse. And she's claiming he gave her none. And that was it. So she told the world on Instagram that she is divorcing Manuel.
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Speaker 2: Was there anything leading up? I mean, she's posting so much stuff. Were there signs of trouble on Instagram, on social media before this?
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Speaker 1: This came out of the blue.
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Speaker 3: I don't know because people are shocked. And if you go look up articles, people are trying to figure out what led to it. And they can't really figure it out. But some people wrote on her thing. I have seen it from the beginning of the show. You need a partner, not someone you have to mother constantly. Your evolution in the past couple of years has greatly surpassed his growth since he came to America. Someone said, I know you're getting a lot of congratulation comments. I mean, women are cheering her on, saying, way to go. Drop him. Drop the man. Get rid of him. But this one, this woman wrote, but I also know even if this is for the best, your heart is still hurting. I could tell you really loved that man and gave him your whole heart. I just wanted to be the one in the comments saying it's okay to be sad about it, even if it's what needs to happen. And Ashley wrote back. I appreciate that. So look, people are, people are honestly, it's kind of surprising or maybe it isn't surprising to you, but they are all, it seems fully in support of her. I mean, Her other comments on her post, a couple thousand, she has 20,000 likes. You have worked way too hard on yourself to accept the bare minimum from any human being. let alone someone who's supposed to be your biggest support system. You deserve someone who praises you the way you praise others. This is the whole deserve things. And you've said this often. Women will support other women in these types of moments when women are down and they're upset about their man. And you say almost to their own detriment. You've felt like you've seen it happen plenty of times.
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Speaker 2: Well, it could go both ways, right? A woman could be very into a guy that might be bad for her. And all the women around will Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's OK.
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Speaker 2: We can make the same excuses. And then I've seen it on the other side where it's not going well. Yeah, to hell with him. And there's not there's sometimes not a fair and impartial.
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Speaker 1: I guess, voice in the room sometimes.
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Speaker 3: Right, because they're just there to comfort the woman, comfort our girlfriend, and say men are horrible, men are bad. And that is honestly what I'm seeing on here, basically saying I know what it's like not to be supported. A lot of people, a lot of breakups happen during cosmetic surgery recovery. Is that true?
00:08:28
Speaker 2: My question, are people, they're supporting her, right, and what she wants to do moving forward.
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Speaker 1: Is there much talk about doing it this way?
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Speaker 3: So a couple of people have written in. I was just about to get to that. This is so cringe to post to Instagram and tag him. She wrote back to that person, I said what I said. And then someone else wrote, not as cringe as being a bad husband. So then other women went to go stand up for her when someone called her out. Someone else called her out and said, to be honest, good for you, but I'm sorry, this isn't something you post on social media with, like, question marks. And someone said, it's even crazier going down the comments and seeing literally everyone say, congrats, you deserve better. That's no one's place to say. So now, you know, people are going back and forth about that. But I have to say, I was shocked at how little shade she got for doing this. I would have thought more people would have said, girl, I get it. Things happen, but why do you have to put it out like that and tag him?
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Speaker 2: She obviously, she can do whatever she wants to do and doesn't necessarily need to be criticized for it. Even if someone else might do it differently. And, but the thing is we have no idea what happened behind the scenes and what has been happening behind the scenes. This is not a matter of taking up for him. Just when things happen like this, she's completely like he's done. I mean, he's, He's completely demonized, cannot defend himself, and that's fine. But I just hate when these things, when it happens like this, and everybody just a mob mentality. I have no idea what he did, but she said it.
00:10:02
Speaker 1: He's a monster. And that's the end of the story.
00:10:04
Speaker 3: And that is probably what she wanted to happen. And she wanted the public support. And that's why she chose to do it this way. But there are real life consequences for throwing someone under the bus publicly like that, shaming them publicly. tagging them so that people then go on his page. And by the way, people have gone on his page and started trolling him and saying, you're a horrible husband. Why didn't you support your wife? So yes, if that's what she wanted, that's what happened. It is tough.
00:10:35
Speaker 2: Everybody do their own thing. It's just, we don't know. And everything she said might be true. This, the damage that does, she loved him enough to do all this with him. and to stay married to him for four years, and now I want to make sure I hurt you at the end. A lot of people might say, well, you don't know what he did to her.
00:10:58
Speaker 1: Yes, I don't, and that's the point.
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Speaker 3: And I will also say you and I both have been through breakups and public ones at that. But we always say this, and this is the one truth that comes from all of this. You don't know someone is until you divorce them. And so even if they're the most loving, wonderful people while you're in a relationship with them, when people get hurt, people do things to hurt back. And that is what we see happen oftentimes. And by the way, Ashley Michelle, just the latest. When we come back, remember Megan Thee Stallion? She broke up with Klay Thompson in a very public and damaging way. Megan Fox, Selena Gomez, Justin Bieber. There are a bunch of celebrities who have done this exact same thing. Welcome back, everyone. Yes, Ashley may have asked for a divorce from Manuel, our 90-day fiancé couple that we followed for so long on Instagram this week. But not that long ago, Megan Thee Stallion, we did a whole thing on this. Remember accusing Klay Thompson of all sorts of stuff? He never clapped back.
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Speaker 1: Not once.
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Speaker 2: And I appreciate that, but it leaves that void for everybody to fill in the blanks to.
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Speaker 1: Call him whatever. He can't defend himself. And he hasn't.
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Speaker 3: And she got specific. Her post was cheating, had me around your whole family playing house, got cold feet, holding you down through all your horrible mood swings and treatment towards me during your basketball season. Now you don't know if you can be monogamous. Bitch, I need a real break after this one. Bye, y'all. And that is how she broke up with him. In front of Everybody. Megan Fox did the same thing. She started she split from Machine Gun Kelly after she shared a cryptic Instagram post and then deleted her account and let everyone know that something was up. But she did it on Instagram first. Selena Gomez and Justin Bieber. I didn't realize this. They had a very public Instagram beef. Justin threatened to make his Instagram private if the hate didn't stop after they broke up. Right. So Selena goes on to that post and says, if you can't handle the hate, then stop posting pictures of your girlfriend. It should be special between you two only. Don't be mad at your fans. And then Justin gets on to reply to her saying, it's funny to see people that used me for attention and still try to point the finger this way. So sad. So they were literally publicly beefing on each other's Instagram pages on comments.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to be honest with you, baby. I forgot they dated. And there's a reason I forgot. I was trying to forget. Everybody's moved on. Why'd you have to bring this back?
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Speaker 3: Right? Well, how about Rihanna? I forgot about this one. She took a shot at all her exes in one post. And this was 10 years ago. Obviously, she's very happy now with Aesop Rocky. But she wrote in a post, none of my exes are married or in happy relationships. So it's safe to say that I wasn't a problem. LOL.
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Speaker 1: We love her too much to criticize. That's kind of hilarious.
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Speaker 3: Yes, but obviously the experts out there, relationship experts, say there are clear do's and don'ts when it comes to breaking up and social media. Look, and this is what they say. It's obvious. It is tempting. It is tempting to just put it out there, to get the support that you want, the public support. And a lot of celebrities know they have platforms and know they have fans. And so if they're hurt and they're feeling sad... to go out there and throw their ex under the bus or break up online or say they know they're going to get support. And that's why they do it because it's tempting. But they say the best thing you can possibly do if you are in the middle of a messy breakup is to go cold turkey. Do not even go on your social media because you might be tempted. So turn your phone off for at least a week. Keep it to yourself. They say it is never a good idea to post publicly about your breakup or to badmouth your ex. It doesn't ever end well. I think we know this intellectually, but maybe we have to be reminded.
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Speaker 2: Do what everybody else does. Just call the tabloid. That works too.
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Speaker 3: Right. I mean, this is what people do. But they say and this is this is about just being a good human being. However badly your ex may have treated you or however badly you think they treated you. Two wrongs do not make a right. And that is the golden rule when it comes to breakups and social media. Two wrongs do not make a right.
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Speaker 2: And you would be sitting here with some group of girlfriends around you or some people might even be listening to it. whatever, if he blah, blah, blah, then he deserves that mindset. I just, I just wrote, just like you said, some folks know they have a platform. You, I'm going to sick my 5 million followers on you, babe. That is, it's not okay. And no matter what, baby, you cannot justify. That's an intentional move to do harm, baby.
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Speaker 1: That stuff.
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Speaker 2: Every celebrity knows that. What those comments feel like, you've gone into depression over those comments. You avoid reading things because you can't handle it. And you're going to do that to somebody. Whatever she's going through, I don't know. So I don't know. And I shouldn't side with her or him. That's not what we're talking about. I just, I wish she hadn't.
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Speaker 3: It's tough, right? And I've been checking because she posted this midweek and I've checked every day to see if maybe she'd take it down. Maybe a cooler head would prevail. Nope. It's still up. And she is commenting on the comments. Like she is reacting to people who either support her or tell her. And I would tell you it's overwhelmingly in support of her because that's what women do. And I think that she knows and a lot of women know that they will get their team of girls around her to make her feel lifted up. But there is actually a real consequence to that. And whatever Manuel did or what he didn't do that was wrong, I still feel for the guy because there really isn't a good next move for him, for Klay Thompson, for any of the other men who get called out publicly for doing something that they really, like, how do you defend yourself in that situation?
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Speaker 2: Because at least in robes, we, know in some of these circumstances through our connections to people that some of these stories are absolutely not true. These guys, some of them are getting called out by big celebrities and big breakups and we know it's false. We actually know. Please say something. We were in the same position. We didn't know the game.
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Speaker 3: We didn't say anything and we should have.
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Speaker 2: Anybody who says I'm left-handed, I will defend it. I will hop on immediately and correct that record.
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Speaker 1: Nope, I'm a righty. It's that kind of thing. I mean, you don't know, babe.
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Speaker 2: This stuff just gets going and Clay and Manuel will forever be stamped.
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Speaker 1: You can't get it back.
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Speaker 3: It's really hard to get back. So just remember to be kind and that two wrongs don't make a right. However tempting it may feel in the moment, put down the phone, everybody. All right. And with that, we always appreciate you listening to us. I'm Amy Robach alongside TJ Holmes. We'll talk soon.