June 4, 2026
Brian Austin Green Has Dating Advice For Amanda Kloots AND You!
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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, welcome back to I Do Part two. This is part two of my sit down and interview with Amanda Klutz, who has been incredible and incredibly insightful and I hope helpful for all of you.
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Speaker 2: So let's jump back into it.
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Speaker 3: What was it like for Sharna coming into that, not like being not having kids and being like now the not stepmom right.
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Speaker 4: Away, but like, what was your intro with that with her? And how did she It was.
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Speaker 2: Really interesting with Sharna.
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Speaker 1: She she had one of those vision boards.
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Speaker 2: You know what those are?
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Speaker 4: I have so many. I have like five in mouse.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so there you go.
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Speaker 1: So she had a vision board and she literally so she when I met her, she owned a home up Beechwood. She had two dogs, this like tiny little two bedroom.
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Speaker 2: House, yeah, great view, and it was her and her dogs.
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Speaker 1: And she would every day she'd go work out and she'd jog in the hills, like she had this very simple routine.
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Speaker 2: But her vision board told a very different story.
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Speaker 1: Interesting her vision board, she had silhouettes of like a family of like a mother and father and a bunch of kids, all holding hands and looking at things like she had all of these things that she really wanted, but she started getting to that age in her life where she was like, how am I going to have a big, a big family coming up on forty years old?
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Speaker 2: Like this is this is out of reach for me.
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Speaker 1: So when we ended up starting to date, it was this very cool experience for her because the puzzle pieces started fitting and she was like, oh my god, this is the big family that was on my vision board. And then I early on we talked about that she really wanted to have a child of her own at some point, and I said to her, I was like, I'm not ready yet, but I don't want you to think that you're wasting your time dating me, Like I understand the value of that, and that is never that is not something that I would deny you having in this relationship. It's not again, it's not something I want right now. Yeah, but I you know, because she was in that.
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Speaker 4: Place yeah yeah, okay.
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Speaker 2: And I slid a baby and she.
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Speaker 1: You know, she was just in this place of like she was like this, I really like spending time with you and being around you, but I don't want to commit any more of myself to this if this, if you don't want this experience again and I said, no, I don't want you to think that way. I would absolutely do that because I think if I'm in a relationship and I care about the person that I'm with, which I obviously cared about her pretty early on, I was like, this is there's nothing cooler than this experience than being a parent, having your own child and like holding a baby and it being a part of you. And there's something too that I have friends that are like that have step kids and they're like, oh, this parenting thing is really hard, and I'm like, dude, stop, you have no idea. You don't and then they'll have kids and all of a sudden they're like, oh, you were absolutely right. I had no idea. And it's like, yeah, you can't. Until you have a child. You can't explain to somebody what that experience is like. It opens up a part of you that you didn't know existed, and you see the world in a completely different way.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, beautiful.
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Speaker 3: Did your for your old have any or any of your children have any like weirdness about you dating again? No? Surprisingly, I Elvis is like really, oh he's like the policeman at the front door.
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Speaker 2: Is he really? Oh?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Really? Yeah?
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Speaker 4: So you had no no problems there.
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Speaker 1: They were like yay, how yeah they were they were yay. But so I was really fortunate though, I think in that my ex was already dating somebody. Oh so it was kind of like you can't just be the poor person that's like alone, you know, come on, dad.
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Speaker 2: And then Sharna was great.
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Speaker 1: Sharna like we were very we were very protective in the way that we did it. We were really fortunate that she had two small dogs.
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, because.
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Speaker 1: There's nothing that kids want more than to have little dogs around them. So I remember at one point when they were like, hey, so and the dog sleep over at our house, and I was like, well, you know, if they do, Sharna does. But it was a great inn. It was perfect, and she was fantastic with them, Like she would get down on the floor and play with them and color with them, and she always had things so when they would come and visit at her place, there was stuff to do. Like she was just very kid friendly and she was She's an incredibly friendly person.
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Speaker 4: Anyway, yours did she grow up with family?
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Speaker 1: So she has an older brother from her dad's previous relationship. She's an only.
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Speaker 2: Child with her mom. Okay, okay, which is the same as me.
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Speaker 1: I have an older brother and an older sister, but they're from my mom's previous marriage.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm an only child with my dad.
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Speaker 4: You're an only child with your dad. When did your parents get divorced? How old were you?
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Speaker 2: My parents are still together?
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Speaker 4: They're still together.
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Speaker 3: Oh, your parents are still together, but your mom was married before got it?
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Speaker 2: Okay?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 4: And how long have your parents been together?
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Speaker 3: Ben?
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Speaker 1: Now?
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Speaker 2: Fifty three years?
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Speaker 3: She do you feel like because I in hearing you talk and like, I've always thought this about you, but like you are a very like evolved good like you have a lot of good moral like like compass.
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Speaker 4: I do you think that's because of your mom and dad?
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Speaker 1: I it, Well, for sure it is, But I mean I think I also just innately have that's been a part of me, Like you know, having Elvis, Elvis is who he is, Like you can motivate him of like, oh, I really love dancing.
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Speaker 2: Hey, you want to try a dance?
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Speaker 1: Like you try and find these things that you might have in common, these passions.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's going to have his own pet.
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Speaker 1: I with the five kids, they could not be more different. And I raised them pretty much the same. Yeah, I mean they're I've had the same moral compass through all of it. Yeah, they are completely different individuals. So now I've really realized that, like, my job as a parent is to raise them morally, make.
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Speaker 2: Sure that they're good people. I don't care what you do to be a good person, what you're doing.
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Speaker 1: If you're a painter, just be a good painters.
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Speaker 2: While you're painting a picture for somebody.
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Speaker 4: Else, Isn't that funny?
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Speaker 3: My big thing with Elvis right now is just be a kind person, a nice guy.
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Speaker 4: I always say, like, just be a nice guy. Nobody likes a mean guy. Be a nice guy.
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Speaker 1: Do you because you have such a strong moral compass, do you feel like that has been something that has gotten in the way a little bit in dating since Nick? Do you feel like there is a bit of a like a bit of a responsibility or a thing in your head of like, oh.
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Speaker 2: My god, he's he's watching.
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Speaker 1: Right now and Elvis is here, and like, I, you know, am I doing the wrong thing?
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Speaker 2: In the like?
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Speaker 1: Do you feel like you're a little more critical of yourself because of that?
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Speaker 3: Okay, so in a weird way, and I know this is going to sound a little crazy, but I feel like Nick and I are closer now than we ever were when he was on earth. I feel like our spiritual connection is insane, and I feel like he is around us and helping us all the time, and it's like really kind of beautiful, and I can reach out to him and ask for his help and advice and it happens.
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Speaker 4: It's it's very cool and crazy.
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Speaker 2: That's not like, that's not crazy.
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Speaker 3: I don't Yeah, I say crazy, but I don't think it's crazy. But I'm sure other people are like, how is that possible? But it has been possible for us, and I I would say the only moral compass in dating with me has been like in this city, it's like you start dating somebody and then you realize that guy is also dating for other women at the same time, and so then you're like, that's been my moral compass of like wait when you find that out and you're like, what, like how like can you not just like put effort into just me, like really like you know, And that took me a minute to like, you know, it's like short circuits because it's just not how I think.
00:09:27
Speaker 1: Or dated before. Though you know what you're describing is a normal part of dating. Like dating, unfortunately, there are the pitfalls in it, there are the stumbles.
00:09:39
Speaker 2: They are the things that you learn from.
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Speaker 1: Like it is, it's a process, and you you.
00:09:45
Speaker 2: Were lucky enough to just skip that process.
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Speaker 3: I mean, but I don't know if I was, to be honest, like, although in a weird way, I do love that at you know, forty went well, not then, because I do I didn't know who I was.
00:10:01
Speaker 4: I know who I am now.
00:10:02
Speaker 3: I know what I need now, and I'm very proud of that, and that's been the journey that I've taken with therapy and dating and learning. But like I didn't, I didn't know what I needed, and I can't imagine that at twenty or thirty I knew what I needed either, you know what I mean. And also what I need now is completely different being a mother and doing, you know, saying all the things that I told you in the beginning. So it is funny how like as you grow you do need different things. And I'm sure dating at my twenties probably would have been a whole different thing and would have been very fun. But it's I think right now for me, it's like if I go on a date, first of all, I'm paying to be there.
00:10:46
Speaker 4: I'm paying.
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Speaker 3: I went on a date recently and it was going so bad that I said to him, I was like, you realize I'm paying to be here right now. And he looked at me like a confused and I go, I don't have somebody that takes my kid and I have five days off my kids with me all the time. I'm paying one hundred dollars to sit with you and have this glass of wine right now. And you saw, I saw his whole face like completely changed. I was like, yeah, so wear a nicer outfit, act like you can care and talk to me about fun things, because otherwise, why am I wasting my time? And it is like it is a waste of my time. And you know how hard it is for a woman. I have to do my hair, put my makeup on, I find a cute outfit.
00:11:35
Speaker 4: I usually get a new outfit.
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Speaker 3: I get it and I say, you know, because you know, I know Sharna takes a lot of you know, pride and how she looks and what she how she dresses, and it's the same like we put a lot of effort even just to go get a cup of coffee with a.
00:11:54
Speaker 4: Guy takes me.
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Speaker 3: You know, I'm thinking about it and then I'm paying for it. So now I go on, I really wigh going on a date. Now, I'm like, is it gonna be worth my time?
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Speaker 2: Are you?
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Speaker 4: Are you seeing for other ways?
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Speaker 2: Do you feel like it makes you almost too critical?
00:12:11
Speaker 3: Though?
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Speaker 4: Possibly?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, one hundred percent. Yeah, it's it's this is where the balance is so hard. So a lot of times then I'll be like, first date is during the day when I have Elvis at school or with his manny, so that I don't have to pay extra for sure, if you make it well and that makes that makes.
00:12:30
Speaker 1: Perfect sense, Like I don't. I completely agree when again, Sharna and I we had coffee.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we had breakfast, breakfast, we had lunch at a restaurant.
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Speaker 1: Like we didn't do a nighttime date until we were actually dating. Yeah, it's like, yeah, we should probably go to a restaurant. Like once the sun goes down, this would be nice because I forgot what it looked like with lights on outside. I was I was so used to falling asleep when the sun's going down, when the kids are falling asleep because we have school the next day. Yeah, so there's you know, I think putting things on it that way, figuring out ways where it doesn't cost you so you can maybe date a little.
00:13:12
Speaker 4: Free more casually, Yeah, and not put.
00:13:15
Speaker 1: So much pressure on it and not be like, look at all the work that I had to do because this is a nighttime kind of thing, and I got dressed up and I did the thing instead.
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Speaker 3: And this is where I get selfish. And I'm going to say I get selfish, but like, my days are precious. It's the hours that I have to myself. I'm doing I'm definitely doing a workout, you know, I love to do a workout. I'm doing stuff for all the crazy businesses that I haven't do. So like again, even a day date is like, okay, we'll all fit it in in this hour, and then it just feels like you're fitting it in. But then it's like if you don't try, obviously, it's you're never then I am going to be sitting on the couch alone at night for the rest of my life.
00:13:58
Speaker 4: So like, you have to try.
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Speaker 3: So it is this hard tight rope that you have to walk and learn. And you know, listen, I hate saying things are hard. I I don't even say that word anymore because I just think it's like such a negative, you know, connotation. It's just it's a balance and it's very nuanced. And you know what I have to tell you. My brother he comes to visit me a lot. He lives in San Francisco, and the last time.
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Speaker 1: He's the one you were saying, Elvis is really close to really special relationship.
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Speaker 3: Yes, And in fact, we called up Uncle Todd last weekend.
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Speaker 2: Because adult Todd. I remember that name.
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Speaker 3: Uncle todis before called uncle Todd because we were talking. Elvis and I were having like a really good conversation about mom and dating and like letting somebody into our lives because I told you he's the policeman at the door. And I was like, let's call up uncle Todd to see like how Uncle Todd can help us with this conversation.
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Speaker 4: And he did.
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Speaker 3: He was such a good, like voice of reason. But because my brother comes down a lot and he's been married now for almost fifteen years, I think to his wife he left and he's like, man's because that's what he calls me.
00:15:16
Speaker 4: He was like, he's like, I feel for you.
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Speaker 3: He was like this is what you have to do is so nuanced, it's so layered.
00:15:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, how is dating with Elvis? Like, how how does he feel about it?
00:15:40
Speaker 4: It's very tough.
00:15:42
Speaker 3: What I see the pattern is typically if I decide to bring somebody I'm dating into Elvis and I's world, At first, he's like obsessed with the guy.
00:15:53
Speaker 4: And he and he, and I'm like, oh my god, this is.
00:15:58
Speaker 2: This is green, it's working. Can't get so cute.
00:16:01
Speaker 3: And then the second he clocks that the guy is not there for him, that the guy is there because he likes Mom, he does this turn and he starts to say how he doesn't like the guy anymore. And what I've now deduced from because now Elvis is in therapy and I'm in therapy, and what I've figured out is that he turns it in my What I think he's doing is that he turns it because in his little brain. And then this is you know, it's so sad to think about. If he tells Mom, I really liked that guy, then that means that guy is going to be around more. Then he's going to have to share the time that he normally.
00:16:45
Speaker 2: Has with Mom.
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Speaker 1: Me.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then his biggest for me, and then he told me his biggest fear, and this he recently confessed, is that I'll love somebody more than him.
00:16:57
Speaker 4: So that's what I'm dealing with.
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Speaker 3: And it doesn't matter how many times I tell Elvis, Elvis, you, I will never love anyone.
00:17:06
Speaker 4: The way I love you.
00:17:07
Speaker 3: It is a completely different love, like buddy, Like, there's no like nobody, Like I can't even walk down the street and be like, oh my gosh, what a cute little girl. He slaps me and he's like, I'm cute, Like, oh my god.
00:17:22
Speaker 2: So any advice on that one?
00:17:24
Speaker 4: How do I deal with that?
00:17:27
Speaker 1: The thing that's hard with kids and I so I had to deal with this with the divorce. I think people, first of all, don't be so hard on yourself in it all, Like, yes, Elvis can absolutely be going through those things. This is the experience that Elvis is supposed to be having in his life. And this is, like you said, all those stumbles and those things that you went through you look back on and you go, oh my god, such a catalyst for change. That's what these are for him. Also, you don't want to rob him of this experience and what it's supposed to be. I always say to people, you know, when they have this thing of oh, well, we don't want our divorce to affect our kids. It's like it's going to affect your kids. There's literally no way around it. The only choice you have is how.
00:18:24
Speaker 4: It affects your kids.
00:18:26
Speaker 1: It's either a positive experience. You guys are respectful of each other, you're kind to each other, you co parent well, and you make the things about the kids, or you make it this really crazy experience to be around where it's just toxic and it's you feel it in the air, and then that negative like that negatively affects your kids. But you don't have a choice of whether it affects your kids or not. Ever, you don't have a choice over whether dating and finding somebody new affects Elvis. You only choice you have is how it affects all this the person you are through it, all the conversations you have with him, the therapy that he's dealing with, the conversations, and the love and the support that he feels through it all. Because he will grow up and understand it better.
00:19:21
Speaker 2: He will.
00:19:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's right now, he's got a young brain. He's not always going to have a young brain, right, and like I know him being a parent that parenting is can be really thankless.
00:19:33
Speaker 2: For years, you're like god.
00:19:36
Speaker 1: I like what, Yeah, I literally give you all of myself and you just don't appreciate any of it.
00:19:42
Speaker 3: Totally.
00:19:43
Speaker 4: That's how I felt the other day. I was just like, you don't know how hard I'm trying.
00:19:49
Speaker 1: There was so Cassius, my twenty four year old, is an actor, totally on his own.
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Speaker 2: I didn't push it on him. His mom didn't push it on him. He found such a great name, Cassius, such a cool name.
00:20:02
Speaker 1: He found theater in school and found a passion for and a love for it, and it's literally his entire life. We were talking one time and he was talking about being on set and something came up and he said, I remember being on set with you and the way you would deal with situations.
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Speaker 2: And watching you talking to other people and doing stuff.
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Speaker 1: And I realized, it's not the things that I said to him, it's the it's the person that I was when he was around. I truly led by example, and that's what you are doing with Elvis. You're leading by example. You're showing him that there can be confusing times. There can be times where you feel like this isn't what you want, this isn't right. But if you are kind through it all and compassionate, and you speak about it all and you share the way you feel and all those things, you'll you'll get out of it, Like you'll find a way out of it and you'll be okay.
00:21:10
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that advice, Brian.
00:21:12
Speaker 2: Thank you, Like you'll he'll be okay.
00:21:15
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's had a hard life too up until this point.
00:21:19
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's okay.
00:21:20
Speaker 1: That's the that's what builds the resilience that is going to make him the man that you are so incredibly proud of. Yeah, when he's older and you are hopefully with somebody new and you get to share that like, oh my god, look at I remember when you were little, and look at the man you too, Which he's a man in life way longer.
00:21:43
Speaker 2: Than he's a kid. Yeah, Like people lose sight of that. It like you childhood is you have a.
00:21:51
Speaker 1: Good like fourteen years the most before they are completely settled in who they are.
00:21:56
Speaker 3: You know, I thank you for bringing this up. It is a huge thing I'm like really focused on right now. I think we make our kids grow up too fast. And one of my good friends has a twelve year old and I'm constantly reminding him he is a baby.
00:22:18
Speaker 4: He's twelve. He's twelve. He's a baby.
00:22:23
Speaker 3: He has his whole life to be treated like an adult and face trials and tribulations and stress and anxiety.
00:22:30
Speaker 4: And guess what he will.
00:22:32
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's twelve right now, he gets to be a kid.
00:22:35
Speaker 4: Let him be a kid.
00:22:38
Speaker 1: That's tough though, for I gotta say, like for a dad. For a relationship between a dad and a son compared to a mom and a son, they're very different relationships. I always heard when a boy, when a man has a boy, he's a father, and when he has a girl, he's a daddy, and they're two different relationships.
00:22:58
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, totally.
00:23:00
Speaker 1: When you have a boy, you want to raise them to be a good man. Yeah, And what does that entail? That entails like I want to teach you how to be self sufficient, how to take care of people around you, how to do those things and be able to step up and you know, order what you want and take control of the room and do the things.
00:23:20
Speaker 3: Where did that click in for you? Do you remember? Was it young? Was it when he was young.
00:23:26
Speaker 1: I honestly feel like it was innately there, but it was a process that I was learning along the way. Yeah, there's a lot of the parenting with Cassius that is different from the parenting now with Zane. Yeah, being it's like I've learned so much and I look at it in a different way. You know, when Cassius was born, you have that thing of like, oh my.
00:23:57
Speaker 2: God, I have a kid. I'm going to have a kid for the rest of my life. It's like, no, you're not.
00:24:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, you are raising a kid now, and then you're going to have a child the rest you know, a friend the rest of your life, a family member the rest of your life, like you're raising It's a different thing. One of the best things I ever I ever read that I read constantly or these people.
00:24:17
Speaker 2: People will do these.
00:24:18
Speaker 1: Breakdowns sometimes of like how many summer vacations you really have?
00:24:22
Speaker 2: How many Christmases you have?
00:24:24
Speaker 4: Toasts?
00:24:25
Speaker 2: But they're the truth.
00:24:26
Speaker 1: And I think if people stopped stepping back and going, oh my god, summer break is coming, I've got three months of what am I going to do?
00:24:34
Speaker 2: And it's like you only have thirteen of.
00:24:38
Speaker 4: These thirteen summers I just thought, and then that's it.
00:24:40
Speaker 5: I know, I know, and then never again is your kid gonna want to hang out with you during summer. To make the best of it, do like raging waters and the vacations and stay in a hotel, go to the zoo, do the fun things that you can.
00:24:54
Speaker 3: Because Elvis will never go to camp. I'm sorry, You're.
00:24:58
Speaker 4: Never going to You're never going to sleep away camp. Its sleep away camp. It's at our house.
00:25:03
Speaker 3: But like I mean, we I I had my siblings, so it's a slightly different. Obviously Elvis is an only child, but like I had my siblings, So yeah, we never got We never got shipped to summer camp. It wasn't even an option because it was like, no, you have your siblings play in the backyard, right it's summer. But now that I am so, you know, hold dearly Elvis, and I'm I'm the same way, Brian.
00:25:26
Speaker 4: I'm like, you're not even going to nine to two.
00:25:28
Speaker 1: Megan's the same way. No one wanted to do a sleep away thing, and Megan was like, Nope, not going to happen. So Noah was like, Okay, fine, I guess I'll do drama camp again. You know things have changed. I know you have to get somewhere. You have to be a mother.
00:25:46
Speaker 2: You have to pick up.
00:25:47
Speaker 4: So can I ask you one more question?
00:25:48
Speaker 2: Yes you can.
00:25:49
Speaker 3: When I started, I was I was talking to you about like like how you know I feel so independent in a relationship and then like but needing to like let the man come in, like as a man, and the different relationships in your life, but maybe especially with Sharna, just because like it's been your last one, in your final one and whatever, Like do you feel like does that relate to you as a man, Like do you feel like as a man, I do need to be needed. I like when I'm desired. I like when I can be the man of the house.
00:26:29
Speaker 1: Of course, of course. But I think for you that you're going to find that naturally. I think you're gonna find a situation where your guard comes down naturally. You don't you feel safe in it, so you just then start living into it and sinking into it, and you feel that relief of like I don't have.
00:26:54
Speaker 2: To do all that stuff anymore.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I don't have to be the one that is the soul provider and the soul like you know, firm place to land all the time, Like I can sit back a little bit. If I were you, I wouldn't put pressure on myself for that though. Stay in therapy, be doing what you're doing, continue to like really look at yourself and figure out the things that you do and the things you don't want to do anymore in relation to yourself. But as far as a relationship goes, trust that if you're going to go into something, you're gonna need to put your guard down. You're gonna have to and it's going to be scary as shit, but you're gonna have if that's what you want. If you want that kind of a relationship, that's something you're gonna have to do. If you don't, again, nothing wrong with that. If you said to me, I'm I'm good, Like if I find a partner, cool, Like maybe things will change, but right now I'm fine.
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Speaker 2: That's it's fine.
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Speaker 1: There is no pressure. I don't let any outside pressures make you feel like you need to be in something. Now do it because you truly want it, and you have met somebody and you're spending time with someone that you love sharing all of it with and you feel safe to and then you these are conversations that.
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Speaker 2: You have with them.
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Speaker 1: Of like, I have always done these things, and this is scary at for me with you because I'm putting down these guards that I've had h but you make that a like a rock within the conversation. You make that an anchor thing. You know, you share those things. That's that's the important. You want to find somebody that you can truly share that with. And if you're with the right person, they're not only going to understand those things, they're going to love you because you are entrusting them with helping you through those things.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I love you. I'm so glad that we got to sit down and do this.
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Speaker 4: And I know I could talk to for six hours.
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Speaker 1: I know we could, and like, I know, but this show is I do part two and I think your part two has been so invaluable for people to hear and we can talk about it forever.
00:29:15
Speaker 2: I have a million more questions. Like you said, we could talk about this for another six hours. But thank you so much.
00:29:21
Speaker 1: For coming here and doing this. It's been amazing.
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Speaker 2: I love you too.
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Speaker 1: It's been amazing being here and you are we have had just an instant like bond and connection. And I've got your back anytime you ever need anything. And I and I've always felt the same.
00:29:39
Speaker 2: I love you bye.
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Speaker 1: So have you found success in life but not when it comes to dating? Do you need help on how to navigate the world of romance?
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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, welcome back to I Do Part two. This is part two of my sit down and interview with Amanda Klutz, who has been incredible and incredibly insightful and I hope helpful for all of you.
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Speaker 2: So let's jump back into it.
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Speaker 3: What was it like for Sharna coming into that, not like being not having kids and being like now the not stepmom right.
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Speaker 4: Away, but like, what was your intro with that with her? And how did she It was.
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Speaker 2: Really interesting with Sharna.
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Speaker 1: She she had one of those vision boards.
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Speaker 2: You know what those are?
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Speaker 4: I have so many. I have like five in mouse.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so there you go.
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Speaker 1: So she had a vision board and she literally so she when I met her, she owned a home up Beechwood. She had two dogs, this like tiny little two bedroom.
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Speaker 2: House, yeah, great view, and it was her and her dogs.
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Speaker 1: And she would every day she'd go work out and she'd jog in the hills, like she had this very simple routine.
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Speaker 2: But her vision board told a very different story.
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Speaker 1: Interesting her vision board, she had silhouettes of like a family of like a mother and father and a bunch of kids, all holding hands and looking at things like she had all of these things that she really wanted, but she started getting to that age in her life where she was like, how am I going to have a big, a big family coming up on forty years old?
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Speaker 2: Like this is this is out of reach for me.
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Speaker 1: So when we ended up starting to date, it was this very cool experience for her because the puzzle pieces started fitting and she was like, oh my god, this is the big family that was on my vision board. And then I early on we talked about that she really wanted to have a child of her own at some point, and I said to her, I was like, I'm not ready yet, but I don't want you to think that you're wasting your time dating me, Like I understand the value of that, and that is never that is not something that I would deny you having in this relationship. It's not again, it's not something I want right now. Yeah, but I you know, because she was in that.
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Speaker 4: Place yeah yeah, okay.
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Speaker 2: And I slid a baby and she.
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Speaker 1: You know, she was just in this place of like she was like this, I really like spending time with you and being around you, but I don't want to commit any more of myself to this if this, if you don't want this experience again and I said, no, I don't want you to think that way. I would absolutely do that because I think if I'm in a relationship and I care about the person that I'm with, which I obviously cared about her pretty early on, I was like, this is there's nothing cooler than this experience than being a parent, having your own child and like holding a baby and it being a part of you. And there's something too that I have friends that are like that have step kids and they're like, oh, this parenting thing is really hard, and I'm like, dude, stop, you have no idea. You don't and then they'll have kids and all of a sudden they're like, oh, you were absolutely right. I had no idea. And it's like, yeah, you can't. Until you have a child. You can't explain to somebody what that experience is like. It opens up a part of you that you didn't know existed, and you see the world in a completely different way.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, beautiful.
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Speaker 3: Did your for your old have any or any of your children have any like weirdness about you dating again? No? Surprisingly, I Elvis is like really, oh he's like the policeman at the front door.
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Speaker 2: Is he really? Oh?
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Speaker 4: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: Really? Yeah?
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Speaker 4: So you had no no problems there.
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Speaker 1: They were like yay, how yeah they were they were yay. But so I was really fortunate though, I think in that my ex was already dating somebody. Oh so it was kind of like you can't just be the poor person that's like alone, you know, come on, dad.
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Speaker 2: And then Sharna was great.
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Speaker 1: Sharna like we were very we were very protective in the way that we did it. We were really fortunate that she had two small dogs.
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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, because.
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Speaker 1: There's nothing that kids want more than to have little dogs around them. So I remember at one point when they were like, hey, so and the dog sleep over at our house, and I was like, well, you know, if they do, Sharna does. But it was a great inn. It was perfect, and she was fantastic with them, Like she would get down on the floor and play with them and color with them, and she always had things so when they would come and visit at her place, there was stuff to do. Like she was just very kid friendly and she was She's an incredibly friendly person.
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Speaker 4: Anyway, yours did she grow up with family?
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Speaker 1: So she has an older brother from her dad's previous relationship. She's an only.
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Speaker 2: Child with her mom. Okay, okay, which is the same as me.
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Speaker 1: I have an older brother and an older sister, but they're from my mom's previous marriage.
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Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm an only child with my dad.
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Speaker 4: You're an only child with your dad. When did your parents get divorced? How old were you?
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Speaker 2: My parents are still together?
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Speaker 4: They're still together.
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Speaker 3: Oh, your parents are still together, but your mom was married before got it?
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Speaker 2: Okay?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 4: And how long have your parents been together?
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Speaker 3: Ben?
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Speaker 1: Now?
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Speaker 2: Fifty three years?
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Speaker 3: She do you feel like because I in hearing you talk and like, I've always thought this about you, but like you are a very like evolved good like you have a lot of good moral like like compass.
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Speaker 4: I do you think that's because of your mom and dad?
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Speaker 1: I it, Well, for sure it is, But I mean I think I also just innately have that's been a part of me, Like you know, having Elvis, Elvis is who he is, Like you can motivate him of like, oh, I really love dancing.
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Speaker 2: Hey, you want to try a dance?
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Speaker 1: Like you try and find these things that you might have in common, these passions.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's going to have his own pet.
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Speaker 1: I with the five kids, they could not be more different. And I raised them pretty much the same. Yeah, I mean they're I've had the same moral compass through all of it. Yeah, they are completely different individuals. So now I've really realized that, like, my job as a parent is to raise them morally, make.
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Speaker 2: Sure that they're good people. I don't care what you do to be a good person, what you're doing.
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Speaker 1: If you're a painter, just be a good painters.
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Speaker 2: While you're painting a picture for somebody.
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Speaker 4: Else, Isn't that funny?
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Speaker 3: My big thing with Elvis right now is just be a kind person, a nice guy.
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Speaker 4: I always say, like, just be a nice guy. Nobody likes a mean guy. Be a nice guy.
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Speaker 1: Do you because you have such a strong moral compass, do you feel like that has been something that has gotten in the way a little bit in dating since Nick? Do you feel like there is a bit of a like a bit of a responsibility or a thing in your head of like, oh.
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Speaker 2: My god, he's he's watching.
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Speaker 1: Right now and Elvis is here, and like, I, you know, am I doing the wrong thing?
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Speaker 2: In the like?
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Speaker 1: Do you feel like you're a little more critical of yourself because of that?
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Speaker 3: Okay, so in a weird way, and I know this is going to sound a little crazy, but I feel like Nick and I are closer now than we ever were when he was on earth. I feel like our spiritual connection is insane, and I feel like he is around us and helping us all the time, and it's like really kind of beautiful, and I can reach out to him and ask for his help and advice and it happens.
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Speaker 4: It's it's very cool and crazy.
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Speaker 2: That's not like, that's not crazy.
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Speaker 3: I don't Yeah, I say crazy, but I don't think it's crazy. But I'm sure other people are like, how is that possible? But it has been possible for us, and I I would say the only moral compass in dating with me has been like in this city, it's like you start dating somebody and then you realize that guy is also dating for other women at the same time, and so then you're like, that's been my moral compass of like wait when you find that out and you're like, what, like how like can you not just like put effort into just me, like really like you know, And that took me a minute to like, you know, it's like short circuits because it's just not how I think.
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Speaker 1: Or dated before. Though you know what you're describing is a normal part of dating. Like dating, unfortunately, there are the pitfalls in it, there are the stumbles.
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Speaker 2: They are the things that you learn from.
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Speaker 1: Like it is, it's a process, and you you.
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Speaker 2: Were lucky enough to just skip that process.
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Speaker 3: I mean, but I don't know if I was, to be honest, like, although in a weird way, I do love that at you know, forty went well, not then, because I do I didn't know who I was.
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Speaker 4: I know who I am now.
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Speaker 3: I know what I need now, and I'm very proud of that, and that's been the journey that I've taken with therapy and dating and learning. But like I didn't, I didn't know what I needed, and I can't imagine that at twenty or thirty I knew what I needed either, you know what I mean. And also what I need now is completely different being a mother and doing, you know, saying all the things that I told you in the beginning. So it is funny how like as you grow you do need different things. And I'm sure dating at my twenties probably would have been a whole different thing and would have been very fun. But it's I think right now for me, it's like if I go on a date, first of all, I'm paying to be there.
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Speaker 4: I'm paying.
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Speaker 3: I went on a date recently and it was going so bad that I said to him, I was like, you realize I'm paying to be here right now. And he looked at me like a confused and I go, I don't have somebody that takes my kid and I have five days off my kids with me all the time. I'm paying one hundred dollars to sit with you and have this glass of wine right now. And you saw, I saw his whole face like completely changed. I was like, yeah, so wear a nicer outfit, act like you can care and talk to me about fun things, because otherwise, why am I wasting my time? And it is like it is a waste of my time. And you know how hard it is for a woman. I have to do my hair, put my makeup on, I find a cute outfit.
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Speaker 4: I usually get a new outfit.
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Speaker 3: I get it and I say, you know, because you know, I know Sharna takes a lot of you know, pride and how she looks and what she how she dresses, and it's the same like we put a lot of effort even just to go get a cup of coffee with a.
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Speaker 4: Guy takes me.
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Speaker 3: You know, I'm thinking about it and then I'm paying for it. So now I go on, I really wigh going on a date. Now, I'm like, is it gonna be worth my time?
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Speaker 2: Are you?
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Speaker 4: Are you seeing for other ways?
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Speaker 2: Do you feel like it makes you almost too critical?
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Speaker 3: Though?
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Speaker 4: Possibly?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, one hundred percent. Yeah, it's it's this is where the balance is so hard. So a lot of times then I'll be like, first date is during the day when I have Elvis at school or with his manny, so that I don't have to pay extra for sure, if you make it well and that makes that makes.
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Speaker 1: Perfect sense, Like I don't. I completely agree when again, Sharna and I we had coffee.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we had breakfast, breakfast, we had lunch at a restaurant.
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Speaker 1: Like we didn't do a nighttime date until we were actually dating. Yeah, it's like, yeah, we should probably go to a restaurant. Like once the sun goes down, this would be nice because I forgot what it looked like with lights on outside. I was I was so used to falling asleep when the sun's going down, when the kids are falling asleep because we have school the next day. Yeah, so there's you know, I think putting things on it that way, figuring out ways where it doesn't cost you so you can maybe date a little.
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Speaker 4: Free more casually, Yeah, and not put.
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Speaker 1: So much pressure on it and not be like, look at all the work that I had to do because this is a nighttime kind of thing, and I got dressed up and I did the thing instead.
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Speaker 3: And this is where I get selfish. And I'm going to say I get selfish, but like, my days are precious. It's the hours that I have to myself. I'm doing I'm definitely doing a workout, you know, I love to do a workout. I'm doing stuff for all the crazy businesses that I haven't do. So like again, even a day date is like, okay, we'll all fit it in in this hour, and then it just feels like you're fitting it in. But then it's like if you don't try, obviously, it's you're never then I am going to be sitting on the couch alone at night for the rest of my life.
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Speaker 4: So like, you have to try.
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Speaker 3: So it is this hard tight rope that you have to walk and learn. And you know, listen, I hate saying things are hard. I I don't even say that word anymore because I just think it's like such a negative, you know, connotation. It's just it's a balance and it's very nuanced. And you know what I have to tell you. My brother he comes to visit me a lot. He lives in San Francisco, and the last time.
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Speaker 1: He's the one you were saying, Elvis is really close to really special relationship.
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Speaker 3: Yes, And in fact, we called up Uncle Todd last weekend.
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Speaker 2: Because adult Todd. I remember that name.
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Speaker 3: Uncle todis before called uncle Todd because we were talking. Elvis and I were having like a really good conversation about mom and dating and like letting somebody into our lives because I told you he's the policeman at the door. And I was like, let's call up uncle Todd to see like how Uncle Todd can help us with this conversation.
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Speaker 4: And he did.
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Speaker 3: He was such a good, like voice of reason. But because my brother comes down a lot and he's been married now for almost fifteen years, I think to his wife he left and he's like, man's because that's what he calls me.
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Speaker 4: He was like, he's like, I feel for you.
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Speaker 3: He was like this is what you have to do is so nuanced, it's so layered.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, how is dating with Elvis? Like, how how does he feel about it?
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Speaker 4: It's very tough.
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Speaker 3: What I see the pattern is typically if I decide to bring somebody I'm dating into Elvis and I's world, At first, he's like obsessed with the guy.
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Speaker 4: And he and he, and I'm like, oh my god, this is.
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Speaker 2: This is green, it's working. Can't get so cute.
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Speaker 3: And then the second he clocks that the guy is not there for him, that the guy is there because he likes Mom, he does this turn and he starts to say how he doesn't like the guy anymore. And what I've now deduced from because now Elvis is in therapy and I'm in therapy, and what I've figured out is that he turns it in my What I think he's doing is that he turns it because in his little brain. And then this is you know, it's so sad to think about. If he tells Mom, I really liked that guy, then that means that guy is going to be around more. Then he's going to have to share the time that he normally.
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Speaker 2: Has with Mom.
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Speaker 1: Me.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then his biggest for me, and then he told me his biggest fear, and this he recently confessed, is that I'll love somebody more than him.
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Speaker 4: So that's what I'm dealing with.
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Speaker 3: And it doesn't matter how many times I tell Elvis, Elvis, you, I will never love anyone.
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Speaker 4: The way I love you.
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Speaker 3: It is a completely different love, like buddy, Like, there's no like nobody, Like I can't even walk down the street and be like, oh my gosh, what a cute little girl. He slaps me and he's like, I'm cute, Like, oh my god.
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Speaker 2: So any advice on that one?
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Speaker 4: How do I deal with that?
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Speaker 1: The thing that's hard with kids and I so I had to deal with this with the divorce. I think people, first of all, don't be so hard on yourself in it all, Like, yes, Elvis can absolutely be going through those things. This is the experience that Elvis is supposed to be having in his life. And this is, like you said, all those stumbles and those things that you went through you look back on and you go, oh my god, such a catalyst for change. That's what these are for him. Also, you don't want to rob him of this experience and what it's supposed to be. I always say to people, you know, when they have this thing of oh, well, we don't want our divorce to affect our kids. It's like it's going to affect your kids. There's literally no way around it. The only choice you have is how.
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Speaker 4: It affects your kids.
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Speaker 1: It's either a positive experience. You guys are respectful of each other, you're kind to each other, you co parent well, and you make the things about the kids, or you make it this really crazy experience to be around where it's just toxic and it's you feel it in the air, and then that negative like that negatively affects your kids. But you don't have a choice of whether it affects your kids or not. Ever, you don't have a choice over whether dating and finding somebody new affects Elvis. You only choice you have is how it affects all this the person you are through it, all the conversations you have with him, the therapy that he's dealing with, the conversations, and the love and the support that he feels through it all. Because he will grow up and understand it better.
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Speaker 2: He will.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's right now, he's got a young brain. He's not always going to have a young brain, right, and like I know him being a parent that parenting is can be really thankless.
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Speaker 2: For years, you're like god.
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Speaker 1: I like what, Yeah, I literally give you all of myself and you just don't appreciate any of it.
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Speaker 3: Totally.
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Speaker 4: That's how I felt the other day. I was just like, you don't know how hard I'm trying.
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Speaker 1: There was so Cassius, my twenty four year old, is an actor, totally on his own.
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Speaker 2: I didn't push it on him. His mom didn't push it on him. He found such a great name, Cassius, such a cool name.
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Speaker 1: He found theater in school and found a passion for and a love for it, and it's literally his entire life. We were talking one time and he was talking about being on set and something came up and he said, I remember being on set with you and the way you would deal with situations.
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Speaker 2: And watching you talking to other people and doing stuff.
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Speaker 1: And I realized, it's not the things that I said to him, it's the it's the person that I was when he was around. I truly led by example, and that's what you are doing with Elvis. You're leading by example. You're showing him that there can be confusing times. There can be times where you feel like this isn't what you want, this isn't right. But if you are kind through it all and compassionate, and you speak about it all and you share the way you feel and all those things, you'll you'll get out of it, Like you'll find a way out of it and you'll be okay.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that advice, Brian.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, Like you'll he'll be okay.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's had a hard life too up until this point.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's okay.
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Speaker 1: That's the that's what builds the resilience that is going to make him the man that you are so incredibly proud of. Yeah, when he's older and you are hopefully with somebody new and you get to share that like, oh my god, look at I remember when you were little, and look at the man you too, Which he's a man in life way longer.
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Speaker 2: Than he's a kid. Yeah, Like people lose sight of that. It like you childhood is you have a.
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Speaker 1: Good like fourteen years the most before they are completely settled in who they are.
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Speaker 3: You know, I thank you for bringing this up. It is a huge thing I'm like really focused on right now. I think we make our kids grow up too fast. And one of my good friends has a twelve year old and I'm constantly reminding him he is a baby.
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Speaker 4: He's twelve. He's twelve. He's a baby.
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Speaker 3: He has his whole life to be treated like an adult and face trials and tribulations and stress and anxiety.
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Speaker 4: And guess what he will.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's twelve right now, he gets to be a kid.
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Speaker 4: Let him be a kid.
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Speaker 1: That's tough though, for I gotta say, like for a dad. For a relationship between a dad and a son compared to a mom and a son, they're very different relationships. I always heard when a boy, when a man has a boy, he's a father, and when he has a girl, he's a daddy, and they're two different relationships.
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Speaker 4: Oh gosh, totally.
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Speaker 1: When you have a boy, you want to raise them to be a good man. Yeah, And what does that entail? That entails like I want to teach you how to be self sufficient, how to take care of people around you, how to do those things and be able to step up and you know, order what you want and take control of the room and do the things.
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Speaker 3: Where did that click in for you? Do you remember? Was it young? Was it when he was young.
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Speaker 1: I honestly feel like it was innately there, but it was a process that I was learning along the way. Yeah, there's a lot of the parenting with Cassius that is different from the parenting now with Zane. Yeah, being it's like I've learned so much and I look at it in a different way. You know, when Cassius was born, you have that thing of like, oh my.
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Speaker 2: God, I have a kid. I'm going to have a kid for the rest of my life. It's like, no, you're not.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you are raising a kid now, and then you're going to have a child the rest you know, a friend the rest of your life, a family member the rest of your life, like you're raising It's a different thing. One of the best things I ever I ever read that I read constantly or these people.
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Speaker 2: People will do these.
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Speaker 1: Breakdowns sometimes of like how many summer vacations you really have?
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Speaker 2: How many Christmases you have?
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Speaker 4: Toasts?
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Speaker 2: But they're the truth.
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Speaker 1: And I think if people stopped stepping back and going, oh my god, summer break is coming, I've got three months of what am I going to do?
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Speaker 2: And it's like you only have thirteen of.
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Speaker 4: These thirteen summers I just thought, and then that's it.
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Speaker 5: I know, I know, and then never again is your kid gonna want to hang out with you during summer. To make the best of it, do like raging waters and the vacations and stay in a hotel, go to the zoo, do the fun things that you can.
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Speaker 3: Because Elvis will never go to camp. I'm sorry, You're.
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Speaker 4: Never going to You're never going to sleep away camp. Its sleep away camp. It's at our house.
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Speaker 3: But like I mean, we I I had my siblings, so it's a slightly different. Obviously Elvis is an only child, but like I had my siblings, So yeah, we never got We never got shipped to summer camp. It wasn't even an option because it was like, no, you have your siblings play in the backyard, right it's summer. But now that I am so, you know, hold dearly Elvis, and I'm I'm the same way, Brian.
00:25:26
Speaker 4: I'm like, you're not even going to nine to two.
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Speaker 1: Megan's the same way. No one wanted to do a sleep away thing, and Megan was like, Nope, not going to happen. So Noah was like, Okay, fine, I guess I'll do drama camp again. You know things have changed. I know you have to get somewhere. You have to be a mother.
00:25:46
Speaker 2: You have to pick up.
00:25:47
Speaker 4: So can I ask you one more question?
00:25:48
Speaker 2: Yes you can.
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Speaker 3: When I started, I was I was talking to you about like like how you know I feel so independent in a relationship and then like but needing to like let the man come in, like as a man, and the different relationships in your life, but maybe especially with Sharna, just because like it's been your last one, in your final one and whatever, Like do you feel like does that relate to you as a man, Like do you feel like as a man, I do need to be needed. I like when I'm desired. I like when I can be the man of the house.
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Speaker 1: Of course, of course. But I think for you that you're going to find that naturally. I think you're gonna find a situation where your guard comes down naturally. You don't you feel safe in it, so you just then start living into it and sinking into it, and you feel that relief of like I don't have.
00:26:54
Speaker 2: To do all that stuff anymore.
00:26:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I don't have to be the one that is the soul provider and the soul like you know, firm place to land all the time, Like I can sit back a little bit. If I were you, I wouldn't put pressure on myself for that though. Stay in therapy, be doing what you're doing, continue to like really look at yourself and figure out the things that you do and the things you don't want to do anymore in relation to yourself. But as far as a relationship goes, trust that if you're going to go into something, you're gonna need to put your guard down. You're gonna have to and it's going to be scary as shit, but you're gonna have if that's what you want. If you want that kind of a relationship, that's something you're gonna have to do. If you don't, again, nothing wrong with that. If you said to me, I'm I'm good, Like if I find a partner, cool, Like maybe things will change, but right now I'm fine.
00:27:56
Speaker 2: That's it's fine.
00:27:58
Speaker 1: There is no pressure. I don't let any outside pressures make you feel like you need to be in something. Now do it because you truly want it, and you have met somebody and you're spending time with someone that you love sharing all of it with and you feel safe to and then you these are conversations that.
00:28:19
Speaker 2: You have with them.
00:28:20
Speaker 1: Of like, I have always done these things, and this is scary at for me with you because I'm putting down these guards that I've had h but you make that a like a rock within the conversation. You make that an anchor thing. You know, you share those things. That's that's the important. You want to find somebody that you can truly share that with. And if you're with the right person, they're not only going to understand those things, they're going to love you because you are entrusting them with helping you through those things.
00:28:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I love you. I'm so glad that we got to sit down and do this.
00:29:00
Speaker 4: And I know I could talk to for six hours.
00:29:02
Speaker 1: I know we could, and like, I know, but this show is I do part two and I think your part two has been so invaluable for people to hear and we can talk about it forever.
00:29:15
Speaker 2: I have a million more questions. Like you said, we could talk about this for another six hours. But thank you so much.
00:29:21
Speaker 1: For coming here and doing this. It's been amazing.
00:29:24
Speaker 2: I love you too.
00:29:25
Speaker 1: It's been amazing being here and you are we have had just an instant like bond and connection. And I've got your back anytime you ever need anything. And I and I've always felt the same.
00:29:39
Speaker 2: I love you bye.
00:29:41
Speaker 1: So have you found success in life but not when it comes to dating? Do you need help on how to navigate the world of romance?
00:29:49
Speaker 2: Were We're here to help.
00:29:51
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