July 16, 2026
Blue Angels Low Flyover Stirs Up More Than Beach Umbrellas, Ignites Political War Of Words
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RSS Feed The U.S. Navy Blue Angels stunned a Pensacola Beach crowd with a lower than expected pass that sent beach umbrellas and tents flying, but gave beachgoers a show they won’t soon forget. The extra low flyover initially triggered a safety review, but Pete Hegseth, Eric Trump and the White House all chimed in, calling any outrage, manufactured, saying the flyovers would continue “until morale improves.” Moments before this recording, the navy announced there were “no reprimands” and “no problem” with the maneuver.
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00:00:02
Speaker 1: Hey, folks, it is Thursday, July sixteenth, and it sure looked cool. Turns out it was pretty unsafe. Also, turns out the administration doesn't seem to give a damn about how close that Blue Angel came to that crowd over Pensacola, Florida's beach. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. We're fighting over this. We're fighting. I mean, this has turned into a political back and forth over a flyover.
00:00:30
Speaker 2: It's kind of remarkable.
00:00:31
Speaker 3: So when we see the pictures and we see the videos and look, the people who were there on the beach all said, whoa. I mean, it was a little too close for comfort. We should mention. If you haven't seen the video, you should check it out. Beach umbrellas went flying, beach tents went flying, people's hats flew off. No one was injured, no one was heard, but it felt like a little bit of a close call, a little too low for comfort. Yes, and some folks even had some comments like, wow, I thought the Blue Angels were gonna take me out, But it was awesome.
00:01:02
Speaker 1: It was thrilling, babe, It was absolutely thrilling.
00:01:04
Speaker 3: Nobody was complaining, but it was a little alarming, and I think that's a fair way to describe it.
00:01:10
Speaker 1: And nobody's complaining because nobody got hurt. Everybody was okay, and those people have a story for the rest of their life. You get to see the Blue Angels and you can almost jump up and touch the wing. He got so damn close. That's a cool story, Robes. I would have loved it. We talked about it this morning. Damn that was awesome.
00:01:23
Speaker 3: However, however, was it safe, was it appropriate? And should it be investigated? Well, initially we were told they were looking into it. There was an investigation there. They were looking to see whether or not this was too low.
00:01:41
Speaker 1: The incident was yesterday, right, yes, okay, the investigations over already here on Thursday. This has become a hell of a story. I'm sure you all seen this video by now Pensacola, Florida. Robes, I didn't know about this event down there, but it sounds really cool. It's called Breakfast with the Blues. The Blue Angels are based down in that area, so they do some practice there and for this week that they kick off a whole big air show this weekend. They practice in the morning and they invite the public out to the beach breakfast with the Blues. We should do this next.
00:02:11
Speaker 3: Year, Yeah, and they've yes, we should, and they've been doing it for years and years. One of the women who was there on the beach said she'd been coming for ten years to see this event every single year because it's just that cool. So, yes, this is something that's supposed to bring us together as Americans, and yet somehow it's now divided us.
00:02:29
Speaker 2: And now if.
00:02:30
Speaker 3: You think that there should be an inquiry, or you think maybe the pilot was flying too low.
00:02:35
Speaker 2: You're not patriotic. You're not an American.
00:02:38
Speaker 3: You don't love our troops, you don't love the Navy. It's bizarre. It's as if we have to say, no, no officer who represents this country, no one in the military could possibly make a mistake. And if you say they can, or that they did, you're not patriotic.
00:02:56
Speaker 1: That is exactly what has happened. Robes. It's okay. I'm looking at it, and I'm telling you I think it was awesome. A lot of people think it was awesome. I also say, holy hell, that is unsafe, and it is and I don't I see it with my own eyes, and I think it's unsafe robes. But they are saying it as well, the experts, the pilots, and even yes, the damn Blue Angels have said it. But the administration at least members are saying robes. Something completely different. But the initial response, this was the first response from the Navy after this happened. I don't think there should have been much of a debate. I don't need to know the hard deck.
00:03:35
Speaker 3: Okay, it flew too low, it buried people too closely.
00:03:38
Speaker 2: Honestly, look, luckily no one got hurt.
00:03:41
Speaker 3: But we have heard, and we have seen recently beach umbrellas that go airborne can impale someone. It could have killed someone. There's no question that someone could have been seriously injured or been killed based on what we saw on that beach. It's just thankfully they got lucky that no one got hurt, that no one was in the path.
00:04:03
Speaker 2: Of some of those flying umbrellas.
00:04:04
Speaker 1: Intense that the problem with the conversation now is because nobody got hurt, than therefore there is no problem.
00:04:09
Speaker 2: I guess.
00:04:10
Speaker 3: But I have a problem with the fact that we can't be critical, that we can't investigate, that we can't look and see what someone has done and say, hey, you made a mistake or you didn't do that correctly, and then not to chastise them, to shame them, but to make sure it doesn't happen again, to make sure that any mistakes are corrected, to make sure we do better next time.
00:04:32
Speaker 2: We have to be able to.
00:04:35
Speaker 3: Look critically at these types of events, because yes, a small margin of error could be the difference between life and death. And we've seen that happen with this particular group anyway. So I think it's awful that if you're just asking questions or you're looking into how we could do it better, that somehow you are.
00:04:56
Speaker 1: A low test aeron unpatriotic nothing. That is what we are getting right now from everybody, you name it. Everybody in the administration has come out and said something completely different. Let's give you the initial response though, we got from the Navy. The Navy put this out immediately after the incident happened on Wednesday, and it was Wednesday morning. The video went absolutely viral. There are accounts of angles of it. If you have not seen it, well you probably have. But this blue angel flies one solo fly so closely, so the folks on the beach there are gathered. They got you know, they got the beach tiles out, they got the koulas, they got the cameras out, and yes, they have a lot of those umbrellas. So they're watching the show. Everybody's enjoying it. One plane flies kind of low over the water and then another one. Looking at a lot of these people's videos, it looks like they didn't see it coming because it was coming from another anger. Nobody would have expected it to fly over them in the first place, and certainly not fly over them that closely. So the video you see and Robers, I think you'll agree a lot of the videos, it seems like some of the people they weren't ready for it because it came out of nowhere to the left, and a lot of the camera angles just went over whoa.
00:06:07
Speaker 3: Yes, actually, because of the how low it was, they couldn't even get a shot of it when it was flying over them because it came over so fast and so low that the camera the phone cameras actually missed the plane.
00:06:22
Speaker 2: That you could see it coming and you could see it going. But that's how close it was.
00:06:26
Speaker 1: It is, so I'll say it it's awesome. I mean, it's awesome to see. It's thrilling as hell, it's impressive as hell, and it is dangerous as hell. And they know this. They put this initial statement out quote, the US Navy Flight Demonstration Squadron, the Blue Angels is aware of social media footage showing a low altitude passed by a team aircraft over Pensacola Beach earlier today during an arrival maneuver, an aircraft flew lower than standard profiles, resulting in a disturbance on the beach that affected civilian chairs and umbrellas ropes. That's the state. Who do I need to tell?
00:07:00
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a fair statement. That's an accurate assessment of what happened. And I think it's okay. Obviously it needs to be okay. We need to be open to be able to say that was too low. We've got to reevaluate our safety protocols.
00:07:14
Speaker 1: And the Navy statement yes, and then.
00:07:17
Speaker 3: They said the safety of our hometown community, spectators and our pilots is our highest priority.
00:07:23
Speaker 2: Ding ding, ding ding ding. Why can that not be the focus?
00:07:26
Speaker 3: This is about safety, This is about getting it right, and in times we have to say we didn't get it right to make sure we correct mistakes. They said, Team leadership is reviewing the circumstances surrounding the maneuver and conducting a thorough safety review to ensure all operations adhere to strict Navy and FAA safety standards. They said they are conducting a thorough safety reviews. It could not have been thorough. They have already come out and made the statement now based on a White House social media post, an Eric Trump social media post, and a Pete Hegseth social media post. So those three entities put something out and all of a sudden, we're hearing a very different story from the Navy, and that is alarming. Babe, that is alarming.
00:08:17
Speaker 1: Do what you want, Rob, This is almost a recklessness with a sixty seven million dollar plane. Rose. There are hundreds thousands of people on that. You all, it's hard. We're not trying to be doomsday folks.
00:08:29
Speaker 2: Broth.
00:08:29
Speaker 1: We talked about this this morning, and we talked about, Wow, that was awesome. That was too low. I would have been thrilled just like them and scared to death. Was a quote you said the woman. I thought they were going to say that.
00:08:40
Speaker 3: I thought I thought the blue angels were going to take me out, but it was awesome.
00:08:44
Speaker 2: I get that. I shared that sentiment. We all do.
00:08:47
Speaker 3: But the thing is, I also share the belief that you have to acknowledge that it was too low and you have to make adjustments. You have to have a review, and you have to try and make sure something like that doesn't happen the next time, where one of those umbrellas or one of those tents, or something very dangerous happens, or the safety of that pilot is at risk. Why wouldn't we actually conducted through out investigation. We're afraid to now because now you're not patriotic, because now you're betraying your country if you question anything that a pilot does, if they're in a naval uniform, that's scary.
00:09:24
Speaker 1: The response to what you just said, Robes from the administration is nobody got hurt. Carry on, patriots. That is the response. And I I saw some odd I can't remember who this expert was said it on Twitter on NEXS. Robes is said this was a fatal mistake and just nobody got killed exactly, and you have to consider it that way.
00:09:50
Speaker 3: But the White House response is after they show a picture of that plane buzzing the beach.
00:09:56
Speaker 2: Where it was very close to its an ai kind of thing. Yes, yeah, and with the.
00:09:59
Speaker 3: P people right there and the plane very close to their heads. It's okay to love America.
00:10:05
Speaker 2: Guess what.
00:10:06
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I take issue with that. I love America, but that still was an unsafe maneuver. Those two things can both be true.
00:10:14
Speaker 1: That is the problem, Robes. It's not that if nobody got in trouble, they didn't suspend a pilot, nobody got reprimanded. I'm okay, Well, that's okay. It's the idea that any question that is posed to the administration that is critical of anything having to do with anything they're doing.
00:10:35
Speaker 2: Robes, you don't have balls. You're labeled, you have low testosterone. There it is, you're weak. There it is, you're unpatriotic.
00:10:43
Speaker 1: That's the thing.
00:10:44
Speaker 2: You're a woos So it's.
00:10:46
Speaker 1: Right, and throw in liberal and left leaning and mainstream and all those words are being thrown about Robes, and it's not. We didn't jump to an immediate conclusion, Oh my god, this is the worst thing in the world. This God needs to be No, what happened that was a lot low. Make sure they get it right next time. Thank god nobody got hurt.
00:11:05
Speaker 2: Period.
00:11:05
Speaker 1: That's it. But no, it's okay to love America from the White House. Pete Hegsas responds, I still don't quite understand. I've been looking around and for online to see if anybody can explained it has a I don't know what this means.
00:11:18
Speaker 2: He put this on X.
00:11:19
Speaker 3: He said, the flyovers will continue until morale improves. We're gonna keep buzzing you until you all are okay with it.
00:11:27
Speaker 2: I don't understand. Look, I know that this is a week long event.
00:11:30
Speaker 3: So part of me was thinking, well, is he just saying they're not gonna be grounded. The planes are gonna still be flying. But I don't know why. It felt like a threat. And I don't really understand.
00:11:40
Speaker 1: But who's morale ours or the military? Is they always talk about morale in the military.
00:11:44
Speaker 3: I believe they're talking about the morale among the people who were questioning whether or not that was a safe maneuver.
00:11:50
Speaker 1: Okay, then Eric Trump wants to chime in and this was a doozy.
00:11:53
Speaker 3: Yes, he said, can't stand the manufactured outrage by the low t mainstream media. This was undoubtedly the highlight of these people's day because they didn't die.
00:12:05
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say the same thing. You literally took the words out of my mouth. I'm sorry.
00:12:10
Speaker 3: So now you're calling members of the media who reported on what happened, and I didn't see. I don't know, did you see it. I didn't see anybody outraged. I saw people talking to folks on the beach who were saying, Wow, that was scary, but wow, that was cool.
00:12:26
Speaker 2: And then we reported on this is all I have.
00:12:28
Speaker 3: Seen from the mainstream media, reported on the fact that the Navy was conducting a review period. I didn't see anyone being outraged. So I feel like that's manufactured. I actually believe that some people are manufacturing a division or some sort of he said she said, or US versus them, because it gives them clout, it rallies the base, because I think that they're manufacturing this controversy.
00:12:58
Speaker 1: This is a perfect one of a Navy jet did something that we've only seen Tom Cruise doing. Top gun. Wow, How cool is that? How big are these balls? How awesome are we? Testosterone? Right? Low teeth people, but just talk about testosterone testing. Now, your levels in the military. All of this robes.
00:13:23
Speaker 2: Is this uber toxic masculinity toxic. I don't even know what that is. It is toxic, but it's uber.
00:13:30
Speaker 1: Masculinity that you gotta be this dude, that you can't be responsible, you need you can be reckless.
00:13:37
Speaker 2: All in the name of being a man in.
00:13:39
Speaker 1: Red, white and blue. It's just it's this is not the the The incident is not the problem. Now. Everything we're doing after it is once again highlighting where we are in this country. This is it's a flyby, a mistake was made. The Navy admit it. It's okay.
00:13:57
Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be like this.
00:13:59
Speaker 1: The acting let's go down here. The Acting Secretary of the Navy. Oh yeah, we were saying, the review is over. This came just a short time ago. The Acting Secretary of the Navy put out a statement and short, sweet and to the point and essentially saying I don't want to hear about this anymore.
00:14:12
Speaker 3: Yeah, this just came out before we began this episode. So this is almost breaking news, so to speak. As of this recording. The Acting Secretary of the Navy says, flight debrief complete, no reprimands, no firings, no problem. That's the sound of freedom.
00:14:31
Speaker 1: What okay, man, I don't know. Robes, I don't know. I don't know what that's supposed to mean. This is the sound of freedom. This is what it sounds like. It's loud, and it's very close to your head.
00:14:42
Speaker 2: And we can do whatever we want because we're America.
00:14:46
Speaker 1: That's that's I don't know what to say. I just this is stunning that we end up here. It's okay, it was a little flight. I love the Blue Angels, we love the Blue Robes. I want to know that the next show I go to, I am not gonna get my wig split because somebody decides.
00:15:05
Speaker 2: To freaking fly over my head on our beach.
00:15:09
Speaker 1: There are kids out there. We've seen accidents with the Blue Angels. They've had issues before, they've had deaths before. Plenty of air shows people have been killed. There's a reason you're not supposed to fly this low because.
00:15:23
Speaker 2: There's no margin of error there. It is none zero.
00:15:26
Speaker 1: If any little thing goes wrong, people are going to die. And that's why you don't do this. This is also why the FAA has flight procedures and minimums for the Blue Angels specifically. This is a quote from them about air shows for the US Navy Blue Angels. Approved maneuvers include level or climbing, non aerobatic flight over any spectator no less than five hundred feet five hundred feet. That sounds a little complicated way say it, but they're saying the approved maneuvers they have to be above five hundred feet ropes. How close were it? What's the estimates? We're seeing one hundred feet at yes, but much lower.
00:16:10
Speaker 3: I think there's significantly less than five hundred feet.
00:16:13
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think they're saying under one hundred feet maybe, Oh my god, that's a what is that a ten story building? And but they're saying, what if it's fifty sixty feet? It's it's okay. Everybody's saying it was too low. Let's figure out what happened, make sure it doesn't happen again. That's it.
00:16:27
Speaker 2: That's it.
00:16:28
Speaker 1: But asking the question, I am now being deemed unpatriotic and with low testosterone. I'm not a man and I'm not an American because I see a flight, a plane go over ropes. I was cheering this morning.
00:16:40
Speaker 3: Yeah, we actually had fun with it in morning run because yes, we acknowledged that it was scary and thrilling. At the same time, though, and it can be dangerous at the same time, and it might need to be not my need, I would say, almost assuredly needed to be evaluated and not repeated.
00:16:59
Speaker 1: Okay, well it kind of got repeated here because it's happened again with the Blue Angels. It happened not too terribly long ago, and the commander ended up out of a job. Stay here, we'll explain that and also tell you just how many Blue Angels members have died since their inceptions.
00:17:17
Speaker 3: Stay here, Welcome back everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ, where Look, it wasn't just umbrellas and hats and tents that were flying after the low pass by the Blue Angels on the Pensacola Beach yesterday. Words are flying. There's a war of words going on. There's a political firestorm now that's fully erupted over this, and unnecessarily so, because really the cruxt of this is safety. This isn't about if you were a Democrat or a Republican, if you're a man or a woman, if you have low tea or high, if.
00:18:01
Speaker 2: You're a member of the media or not. Look, we can all agree it was thrilling. It was scary.
00:18:07
Speaker 3: It should be looked into and look, lives are on the line, and not just the lives of the spectators.
00:18:13
Speaker 2: It's also the lives of those pilots.
00:18:15
Speaker 3: And certainly anyone who flies those fighter jets knows that it is a life or debt situation every time they get into that cockpit.
00:18:25
Speaker 2: And some of.
00:18:26
Speaker 3: Those amazing, brave, courageous, remarkable pilots have given their lives to the cause.
00:18:34
Speaker 1: I've always said there is nothing sexier than a damn fighter pilot. What they do is unfathomable. Robes, more than an Olympic athlete, more than anything I've ever seen a race car driver. You are flying this sixty million dollar jet seven hundred miles an hour, eighteen inches from the other jet also flying seven hundred miles an hour. Robes, I can't walk down the street with you and keep a proper distance. Oh, I've bump into you all the time.
00:19:04
Speaker 2: I'd be the worst. This is unbelievable, remarkable what they do.
00:19:10
Speaker 1: But they do make mistakes and in their history, robes they have had several What was the last deadly one was not twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, but they had an issue in twenty eleven where robes once again it helped me. Was it Lynchburg? Where was this incident where they had an incident where they flew several of them flew too low because they were following their commander essentially, and they admitted afterwards they flew too low. Five days after that in twenty eleven, that commander stepped down. Robes. They pay attention to this. Safety is paramount, it is utmost and they have paid attention to this, Robes, and there have been consequences for low flights. Was it Blinchberg, Yes.
00:19:50
Speaker 2: You are spot on.
00:19:52
Speaker 3: It was in May of twenty eleven the Blue Angels commander and the flight leader, David Koss, voluntarily stepped down from his position because of that unsafe low altitude maneuver being performed at an air show. And yes, Spabe, it was in Lynchburg, Virginia. Good memory, but.
00:20:09
Speaker 1: ROMs, it's there have been consequences in the past that the consequences was somebody losing a job. If the consequence of somebody losing a life were You're still gonna put out a tweet and say keep going, Patriots.
00:20:18
Speaker 3: It's just interesting to think. In twenty eleven the pilot or excuse me, the leader felt this.
00:20:24
Speaker 2: I just think this is patriotic.
00:20:26
Speaker 3: He felt responsible, and he felt like that dangerous stunt was not meeting his squadron's standards. And that's why he stepped down, because he wanted to protect the integrity of his team. That is patriotism. That is courage, that is accountability, and that is an acknowledgment of a mistake being made. To me, that is the most courageous thing you can do is admit that you've made a mistake and do the right thing, not like start pointing the finger at other people and start masking any issue you under this veil of we can do no wrong because.
00:21:04
Speaker 1: We're we can do no wrong because nobody is cubris was what was the one Hexas stepped in on the kid Rock thing? Right, Yes, where you do a flyby at a celebrity's house and the mountains unauthorized.
00:21:17
Speaker 3: I assume yes, And so an investigation went on. I believe that it might have been.
00:21:23
Speaker 1: Shorter because he put out a tweet saying carry.
00:21:25
Speaker 2: Carry on patriots. That's his new favorite theme to say.
00:21:28
Speaker 3: Basically, if you're a member of the military and Pete hexs and you're a man and you've got high tea.
00:21:35
Speaker 2: You can do no wrong. Apparently shave that beard and be white.
00:21:39
Speaker 1: Of course, again that's his thing. I'm not Christy. I think he is very much into anti DEI and minority this and so hey, fine rolls. They're speaking to their audience. I don't know how much is this is politics and just how much of this is just who they are.
00:21:53
Speaker 2: But did we mention though? Twenty seven?
00:21:57
Speaker 3: Twenty seven is the number that is how many lou angel pilots fighter pilots have died since their inception. That is no small number. I was actually surprised it was that high. I mean, I know, given what they do and how dangerous it is, I still was surprised. We're talking more than two dozen deaths, and so yes, that's what this is about.
00:22:19
Speaker 2: This is about safety anything else.
00:22:22
Speaker 1: I haven't had one in ten years.
00:22:23
Speaker 2: And that's phenomenal, and we want to keep it that way.
00:22:26
Speaker 1: Yes, by paying attention to things like this. This is our tone and our voices and our feeling about this story has completely changed since this morning. Because it was we could all just acknowledge. Wow, that was awesome. I bet that was a thrill for them. Nobody got hurt, thank god, But man, what happened? I'd like to have some answers. There are none. There won't be any because what he did was okay, and we don't know if this is a rogue pilot just wanted to do a cool fly by, or there was a mistake and there was an accident he misjudged what. We don't know and we're not We'll never know. They're not going to tell us. So what does that tell you? You want to take your kid to a Blue Angel show and sit on the beach. I would not until I hear an answer. I'm serious, Robes. The likelihood of this is low, but you just can't do this. You cannot do this, and that's okay. I'm not upset at all at this pilot or anything. Let's just find out. I just cannot believe anybody who looks at that and go looh, that's scary. I wonder what happened. You are unpatriotic.
00:23:26
Speaker 3: When you start silencing people who are asking questions. And this is I'm sorry, this is a theme with this administration and Pete Hegseth specifically with the Pentagon. He doesn't like your questions, your banned from the briefing room. You won't make sure that he's okay with every story you report, your banned from the Pentagon. If you ask questions, if you go against or say anything contrary to what they think, you are labeled something awful, that is scary, that is not democracy, that is not transparency. And this is just another unfortunate, glaring example.
00:24:04
Speaker 1: I guess there's plenty of people out there just shaking their heads and hearing this and go ah, guys taking it too far. Where the people are being cused of outrage.
00:24:13
Speaker 3: And manufactured outrage. I wasn't outraged. I'm only outraged by the response, you know.
00:24:18
Speaker 1: I'm not outraged by the actual manuver. I'm not either, not in the least bit. But where we.
00:24:24
Speaker 2: Are now, that's tough.
00:24:25
Speaker 1: I guess we should have seen a gumon rooms.
00:24:27
Speaker 2: I guess we should have.
00:24:28
Speaker 3: Well, I'd say that we'll stay on top of the story, but by all accounts, the story is over. So we hope you enjoyed the videos and will continue to ask questions despite what we've been told not to do. And with that, everyone, we always appreciate you listening to us. I'm any roboch alongside TJ.
00:24:46
Speaker 2: Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 1: Hey, folks, it is Thursday, July sixteenth, and it sure looked cool. Turns out it was pretty unsafe. Also, turns out the administration doesn't seem to give a damn about how close that Blue Angel came to that crowd over Pensacola, Florida's beach. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. We're fighting over this. We're fighting. I mean, this has turned into a political back and forth over a flyover.
00:00:30
Speaker 2: It's kind of remarkable.
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Speaker 3: So when we see the pictures and we see the videos and look, the people who were there on the beach all said, whoa. I mean, it was a little too close for comfort. We should mention. If you haven't seen the video, you should check it out. Beach umbrellas went flying, beach tents went flying, people's hats flew off. No one was injured, no one was heard, but it felt like a little bit of a close call, a little too low for comfort. Yes, and some folks even had some comments like, wow, I thought the Blue Angels were gonna take me out, But it was awesome.
00:01:02
Speaker 1: It was thrilling, babe, It was absolutely thrilling.
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Speaker 3: Nobody was complaining, but it was a little alarming, and I think that's a fair way to describe it.
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Speaker 1: And nobody's complaining because nobody got hurt. Everybody was okay, and those people have a story for the rest of their life. You get to see the Blue Angels and you can almost jump up and touch the wing. He got so damn close. That's a cool story, Robes. I would have loved it. We talked about it this morning. Damn that was awesome.
00:01:23
Speaker 3: However, however, was it safe, was it appropriate? And should it be investigated? Well, initially we were told they were looking into it. There was an investigation there. They were looking to see whether or not this was too low.
00:01:41
Speaker 1: The incident was yesterday, right, yes, okay, the investigations over already here on Thursday. This has become a hell of a story. I'm sure you all seen this video by now Pensacola, Florida. Robes, I didn't know about this event down there, but it sounds really cool. It's called Breakfast with the Blues. The Blue Angels are based down in that area, so they do some practice there and for this week that they kick off a whole big air show this weekend. They practice in the morning and they invite the public out to the beach breakfast with the Blues. We should do this next.
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Speaker 3: Year, Yeah, and they've yes, we should, and they've been doing it for years and years. One of the women who was there on the beach said she'd been coming for ten years to see this event every single year because it's just that cool. So, yes, this is something that's supposed to bring us together as Americans, and yet somehow it's now divided us.
00:02:29
Speaker 2: And now if.
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Speaker 3: You think that there should be an inquiry, or you think maybe the pilot was flying too low.
00:02:35
Speaker 2: You're not patriotic. You're not an American.
00:02:38
Speaker 3: You don't love our troops, you don't love the Navy. It's bizarre. It's as if we have to say, no, no officer who represents this country, no one in the military could possibly make a mistake. And if you say they can, or that they did, you're not patriotic.
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Speaker 1: That is exactly what has happened. Robes. It's okay. I'm looking at it, and I'm telling you I think it was awesome. A lot of people think it was awesome. I also say, holy hell, that is unsafe, and it is and I don't I see it with my own eyes, and I think it's unsafe robes. But they are saying it as well, the experts, the pilots, and even yes, the damn Blue Angels have said it. But the administration at least members are saying robes. Something completely different. But the initial response, this was the first response from the Navy after this happened. I don't think there should have been much of a debate. I don't need to know the hard deck.
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Speaker 3: Okay, it flew too low, it buried people too closely.
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Speaker 2: Honestly, look, luckily no one got hurt.
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Speaker 3: But we have heard, and we have seen recently beach umbrellas that go airborne can impale someone. It could have killed someone. There's no question that someone could have been seriously injured or been killed based on what we saw on that beach. It's just thankfully they got lucky that no one got hurt, that no one was in the path.
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Speaker 2: Of some of those flying umbrellas.
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Speaker 1: Intense that the problem with the conversation now is because nobody got hurt, than therefore there is no problem.
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Speaker 2: I guess.
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Speaker 3: But I have a problem with the fact that we can't be critical, that we can't investigate, that we can't look and see what someone has done and say, hey, you made a mistake or you didn't do that correctly, and then not to chastise them, to shame them, but to make sure it doesn't happen again, to make sure that any mistakes are corrected, to make sure we do better next time.
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Speaker 2: We have to be able to.
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Speaker 3: Look critically at these types of events, because yes, a small margin of error could be the difference between life and death. And we've seen that happen with this particular group anyway. So I think it's awful that if you're just asking questions or you're looking into how we could do it better, that somehow you are.
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Speaker 1: A low test aeron unpatriotic nothing. That is what we are getting right now from everybody, you name it. Everybody in the administration has come out and said something completely different. Let's give you the initial response though, we got from the Navy. The Navy put this out immediately after the incident happened on Wednesday, and it was Wednesday morning. The video went absolutely viral. There are accounts of angles of it. If you have not seen it, well you probably have. But this blue angel flies one solo fly so closely, so the folks on the beach there are gathered. They got you know, they got the beach tiles out, they got the koulas, they got the cameras out, and yes, they have a lot of those umbrellas. So they're watching the show. Everybody's enjoying it. One plane flies kind of low over the water and then another one. Looking at a lot of these people's videos, it looks like they didn't see it coming because it was coming from another anger. Nobody would have expected it to fly over them in the first place, and certainly not fly over them that closely. So the video you see and Robers, I think you'll agree a lot of the videos, it seems like some of the people they weren't ready for it because it came out of nowhere to the left, and a lot of the camera angles just went over whoa.
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Speaker 3: Yes, actually, because of the how low it was, they couldn't even get a shot of it when it was flying over them because it came over so fast and so low that the camera the phone cameras actually missed the plane.
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Speaker 2: That you could see it coming and you could see it going. But that's how close it was.
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Speaker 1: It is, so I'll say it it's awesome. I mean, it's awesome to see. It's thrilling as hell, it's impressive as hell, and it is dangerous as hell. And they know this. They put this initial statement out quote, the US Navy Flight Demonstration Squadron, the Blue Angels is aware of social media footage showing a low altitude passed by a team aircraft over Pensacola Beach earlier today during an arrival maneuver, an aircraft flew lower than standard profiles, resulting in a disturbance on the beach that affected civilian chairs and umbrellas ropes. That's the state. Who do I need to tell?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a fair statement. That's an accurate assessment of what happened. And I think it's okay. Obviously it needs to be okay. We need to be open to be able to say that was too low. We've got to reevaluate our safety protocols.
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Speaker 1: And the Navy statement yes, and then.
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Speaker 3: They said the safety of our hometown community, spectators and our pilots is our highest priority.
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Speaker 2: Ding ding, ding ding ding. Why can that not be the focus?
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Speaker 3: This is about safety, This is about getting it right, and in times we have to say we didn't get it right to make sure we correct mistakes. They said, Team leadership is reviewing the circumstances surrounding the maneuver and conducting a thorough safety review to ensure all operations adhere to strict Navy and FAA safety standards. They said they are conducting a thorough safety reviews. It could not have been thorough. They have already come out and made the statement now based on a White House social media post, an Eric Trump social media post, and a Pete Hegseth social media post. So those three entities put something out and all of a sudden, we're hearing a very different story from the Navy, and that is alarming. Babe, that is alarming.
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Speaker 1: Do what you want, Rob, This is almost a recklessness with a sixty seven million dollar plane. Rose. There are hundreds thousands of people on that. You all, it's hard. We're not trying to be doomsday folks.
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Speaker 2: Broth.
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Speaker 1: We talked about this this morning, and we talked about, Wow, that was awesome. That was too low. I would have been thrilled just like them and scared to death. Was a quote you said the woman. I thought they were going to say that.
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Speaker 3: I thought I thought the blue angels were going to take me out, but it was awesome.
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Speaker 2: I get that. I shared that sentiment. We all do.
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Speaker 3: But the thing is, I also share the belief that you have to acknowledge that it was too low and you have to make adjustments. You have to have a review, and you have to try and make sure something like that doesn't happen the next time, where one of those umbrellas or one of those tents, or something very dangerous happens, or the safety of that pilot is at risk. Why wouldn't we actually conducted through out investigation. We're afraid to now because now you're not patriotic, because now you're betraying your country if you question anything that a pilot does, if they're in a naval uniform, that's scary.
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Speaker 1: The response to what you just said, Robes from the administration is nobody got hurt. Carry on, patriots. That is the response. And I I saw some odd I can't remember who this expert was said it on Twitter on NEXS. Robes is said this was a fatal mistake and just nobody got killed exactly, and you have to consider it that way.
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Speaker 3: But the White House response is after they show a picture of that plane buzzing the beach.
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Speaker 2: Where it was very close to its an ai kind of thing. Yes, yeah, and with the.
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Speaker 3: P people right there and the plane very close to their heads. It's okay to love America.
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Speaker 2: Guess what.
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Speaker 3: I'm sorry, I take issue with that. I love America, but that still was an unsafe maneuver. Those two things can both be true.
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Speaker 1: That is the problem, Robes. It's not that if nobody got in trouble, they didn't suspend a pilot, nobody got reprimanded. I'm okay, Well, that's okay. It's the idea that any question that is posed to the administration that is critical of anything having to do with anything they're doing.
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Speaker 2: Robes, you don't have balls. You're labeled, you have low testosterone. There it is, you're weak. There it is, you're unpatriotic.
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Speaker 1: That's the thing.
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Speaker 2: You're a woos So it's.
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Speaker 1: Right, and throw in liberal and left leaning and mainstream and all those words are being thrown about Robes, and it's not. We didn't jump to an immediate conclusion, Oh my god, this is the worst thing in the world. This God needs to be No, what happened that was a lot low. Make sure they get it right next time. Thank god nobody got hurt.
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Speaker 2: Period.
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Speaker 1: That's it. But no, it's okay to love America from the White House. Pete Hegsas responds, I still don't quite understand. I've been looking around and for online to see if anybody can explained it has a I don't know what this means.
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Speaker 2: He put this on X.
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Speaker 3: He said, the flyovers will continue until morale improves. We're gonna keep buzzing you until you all are okay with it.
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Speaker 2: I don't understand. Look, I know that this is a week long event.
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Speaker 3: So part of me was thinking, well, is he just saying they're not gonna be grounded. The planes are gonna still be flying. But I don't know why. It felt like a threat. And I don't really understand.
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Speaker 1: But who's morale ours or the military? Is they always talk about morale in the military.
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Speaker 3: I believe they're talking about the morale among the people who were questioning whether or not that was a safe maneuver.
00:11:50
Speaker 1: Okay, then Eric Trump wants to chime in and this was a doozy.
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Speaker 3: Yes, he said, can't stand the manufactured outrage by the low t mainstream media. This was undoubtedly the highlight of these people's day because they didn't die.
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Speaker 2: I was just gonna say the same thing. You literally took the words out of my mouth. I'm sorry.
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Speaker 3: So now you're calling members of the media who reported on what happened, and I didn't see. I don't know, did you see it. I didn't see anybody outraged. I saw people talking to folks on the beach who were saying, Wow, that was scary, but wow, that was cool.
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Speaker 2: And then we reported on this is all I have.
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Speaker 3: Seen from the mainstream media, reported on the fact that the Navy was conducting a review period. I didn't see anyone being outraged. So I feel like that's manufactured. I actually believe that some people are manufacturing a division or some sort of he said she said, or US versus them, because it gives them clout, it rallies the base, because I think that they're manufacturing this controversy.
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Speaker 1: This is a perfect one of a Navy jet did something that we've only seen Tom Cruise doing. Top gun. Wow, How cool is that? How big are these balls? How awesome are we? Testosterone? Right? Low teeth people, but just talk about testosterone testing. Now, your levels in the military. All of this robes.
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Speaker 2: Is this uber toxic masculinity toxic. I don't even know what that is. It is toxic, but it's uber.
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Speaker 1: Masculinity that you gotta be this dude, that you can't be responsible, you need you can be reckless.
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Speaker 2: All in the name of being a man in.
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Speaker 1: Red, white and blue. It's just it's this is not the the The incident is not the problem. Now. Everything we're doing after it is once again highlighting where we are in this country. This is it's a flyby, a mistake was made. The Navy admit it. It's okay.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be like this.
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Speaker 1: The acting let's go down here. The Acting Secretary of the Navy. Oh yeah, we were saying, the review is over. This came just a short time ago. The Acting Secretary of the Navy put out a statement and short, sweet and to the point and essentially saying I don't want to hear about this anymore.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, this just came out before we began this episode. So this is almost breaking news, so to speak. As of this recording. The Acting Secretary of the Navy says, flight debrief complete, no reprimands, no firings, no problem. That's the sound of freedom.
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Speaker 1: What okay, man, I don't know. Robes, I don't know. I don't know what that's supposed to mean. This is the sound of freedom. This is what it sounds like. It's loud, and it's very close to your head.
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Speaker 2: And we can do whatever we want because we're America.
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Speaker 1: That's that's I don't know what to say. I just this is stunning that we end up here. It's okay, it was a little flight. I love the Blue Angels, we love the Blue Robes. I want to know that the next show I go to, I am not gonna get my wig split because somebody decides.
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Speaker 2: To freaking fly over my head on our beach.
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Speaker 1: There are kids out there. We've seen accidents with the Blue Angels. They've had issues before, they've had deaths before. Plenty of air shows people have been killed. There's a reason you're not supposed to fly this low because.
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Speaker 2: There's no margin of error there. It is none zero.
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Speaker 1: If any little thing goes wrong, people are going to die. And that's why you don't do this. This is also why the FAA has flight procedures and minimums for the Blue Angels specifically. This is a quote from them about air shows for the US Navy Blue Angels. Approved maneuvers include level or climbing, non aerobatic flight over any spectator no less than five hundred feet five hundred feet. That sounds a little complicated way say it, but they're saying the approved maneuvers they have to be above five hundred feet ropes. How close were it? What's the estimates? We're seeing one hundred feet at yes, but much lower.
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Speaker 3: I think there's significantly less than five hundred feet.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think they're saying under one hundred feet maybe, Oh my god, that's a what is that a ten story building? And but they're saying, what if it's fifty sixty feet? It's it's okay. Everybody's saying it was too low. Let's figure out what happened, make sure it doesn't happen again. That's it.
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Speaker 2: That's it.
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Speaker 1: But asking the question, I am now being deemed unpatriotic and with low testosterone. I'm not a man and I'm not an American because I see a flight, a plane go over ropes. I was cheering this morning.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, we actually had fun with it in morning run because yes, we acknowledged that it was scary and thrilling. At the same time, though, and it can be dangerous at the same time, and it might need to be not my need, I would say, almost assuredly needed to be evaluated and not repeated.
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Speaker 1: Okay, well it kind of got repeated here because it's happened again with the Blue Angels. It happened not too terribly long ago, and the commander ended up out of a job. Stay here, we'll explain that and also tell you just how many Blue Angels members have died since their inceptions.
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Speaker 3: Stay here, Welcome back everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ, where Look, it wasn't just umbrellas and hats and tents that were flying after the low pass by the Blue Angels on the Pensacola Beach yesterday. Words are flying. There's a war of words going on. There's a political firestorm now that's fully erupted over this, and unnecessarily so, because really the cruxt of this is safety. This isn't about if you were a Democrat or a Republican, if you're a man or a woman, if you have low tea or high, if.
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Speaker 2: You're a member of the media or not. Look, we can all agree it was thrilling. It was scary.
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Speaker 3: It should be looked into and look, lives are on the line, and not just the lives of the spectators.
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Speaker 2: It's also the lives of those pilots.
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Speaker 3: And certainly anyone who flies those fighter jets knows that it is a life or debt situation every time they get into that cockpit.
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Speaker 2: And some of.
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Speaker 3: Those amazing, brave, courageous, remarkable pilots have given their lives to the cause.
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Speaker 1: I've always said there is nothing sexier than a damn fighter pilot. What they do is unfathomable. Robes, more than an Olympic athlete, more than anything I've ever seen a race car driver. You are flying this sixty million dollar jet seven hundred miles an hour, eighteen inches from the other jet also flying seven hundred miles an hour. Robes, I can't walk down the street with you and keep a proper distance. Oh, I've bump into you all the time.
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Speaker 2: I'd be the worst. This is unbelievable, remarkable what they do.
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Speaker 1: But they do make mistakes and in their history, robes they have had several What was the last deadly one was not twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, but they had an issue in twenty eleven where robes once again it helped me. Was it Lynchburg? Where was this incident where they had an incident where they flew several of them flew too low because they were following their commander essentially, and they admitted afterwards they flew too low. Five days after that in twenty eleven, that commander stepped down. Robes. They pay attention to this. Safety is paramount, it is utmost and they have paid attention to this, Robes, and there have been consequences for low flights. Was it Blinchberg, Yes.
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Speaker 2: You are spot on.
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Speaker 3: It was in May of twenty eleven the Blue Angels commander and the flight leader, David Koss, voluntarily stepped down from his position because of that unsafe low altitude maneuver being performed at an air show. And yes, Spabe, it was in Lynchburg, Virginia. Good memory, but.
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Speaker 1: ROMs, it's there have been consequences in the past that the consequences was somebody losing a job. If the consequence of somebody losing a life were You're still gonna put out a tweet and say keep going, Patriots.
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Speaker 3: It's just interesting to think. In twenty eleven the pilot or excuse me, the leader felt this.
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Speaker 2: I just think this is patriotic.
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Speaker 3: He felt responsible, and he felt like that dangerous stunt was not meeting his squadron's standards. And that's why he stepped down, because he wanted to protect the integrity of his team. That is patriotism. That is courage, that is accountability, and that is an acknowledgment of a mistake being made. To me, that is the most courageous thing you can do is admit that you've made a mistake and do the right thing, not like start pointing the finger at other people and start masking any issue you under this veil of we can do no wrong because.
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Speaker 1: We're we can do no wrong because nobody is cubris was what was the one Hexas stepped in on the kid Rock thing? Right, Yes, where you do a flyby at a celebrity's house and the mountains unauthorized.
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Speaker 3: I assume yes, And so an investigation went on. I believe that it might have been.
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Speaker 1: Shorter because he put out a tweet saying carry.
00:21:25
Speaker 2: Carry on patriots. That's his new favorite theme to say.
00:21:28
Speaker 3: Basically, if you're a member of the military and Pete hexs and you're a man and you've got high tea.
00:21:35
Speaker 2: You can do no wrong. Apparently shave that beard and be white.
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Speaker 1: Of course, again that's his thing. I'm not Christy. I think he is very much into anti DEI and minority this and so hey, fine rolls. They're speaking to their audience. I don't know how much is this is politics and just how much of this is just who they are.
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Speaker 2: But did we mention though? Twenty seven?
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Speaker 3: Twenty seven is the number that is how many lou angel pilots fighter pilots have died since their inception. That is no small number. I was actually surprised it was that high. I mean, I know, given what they do and how dangerous it is, I still was surprised. We're talking more than two dozen deaths, and so yes, that's what this is about.
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Speaker 2: This is about safety anything else.
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Speaker 1: I haven't had one in ten years.
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Speaker 2: And that's phenomenal, and we want to keep it that way.
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Speaker 1: Yes, by paying attention to things like this. This is our tone and our voices and our feeling about this story has completely changed since this morning. Because it was we could all just acknowledge. Wow, that was awesome. I bet that was a thrill for them. Nobody got hurt, thank god, But man, what happened? I'd like to have some answers. There are none. There won't be any because what he did was okay, and we don't know if this is a rogue pilot just wanted to do a cool fly by, or there was a mistake and there was an accident he misjudged what. We don't know and we're not We'll never know. They're not going to tell us. So what does that tell you? You want to take your kid to a Blue Angel show and sit on the beach. I would not until I hear an answer. I'm serious, Robes. The likelihood of this is low, but you just can't do this. You cannot do this, and that's okay. I'm not upset at all at this pilot or anything. Let's just find out. I just cannot believe anybody who looks at that and go looh, that's scary. I wonder what happened. You are unpatriotic.
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Speaker 3: When you start silencing people who are asking questions. And this is I'm sorry, this is a theme with this administration and Pete Hegseth specifically with the Pentagon. He doesn't like your questions, your banned from the briefing room. You won't make sure that he's okay with every story you report, your banned from the Pentagon. If you ask questions, if you go against or say anything contrary to what they think, you are labeled something awful, that is scary, that is not democracy, that is not transparency. And this is just another unfortunate, glaring example.
00:24:04
Speaker 1: I guess there's plenty of people out there just shaking their heads and hearing this and go ah, guys taking it too far. Where the people are being cused of outrage.
00:24:13
Speaker 3: And manufactured outrage. I wasn't outraged. I'm only outraged by the response, you know.
00:24:18
Speaker 1: I'm not outraged by the actual manuver. I'm not either, not in the least bit. But where we.
00:24:24
Speaker 2: Are now, that's tough.
00:24:25
Speaker 1: I guess we should have seen a gumon rooms.
00:24:27
Speaker 2: I guess we should have.
00:24:28
Speaker 3: Well, I'd say that we'll stay on top of the story, but by all accounts, the story is over. So we hope you enjoyed the videos and will continue to ask questions despite what we've been told not to do. And with that, everyone, we always appreciate you listening to us. I'm any roboch alongside TJ.
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Speaker 2: Holmes. We'll talk to you soon.