June 25, 2026
Bank Executive Caught Dumping Garbage To Steal Knicks Trash Can, Out Of Job
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RSS Feed A viral video of a woman dumping trash on a NYC sidewalk to steal a Knicks themed trash can, is no longer employed with JP Morgan Chase. 40-year-old Angie Baez has been identified and is now being viciously mocked online after the video went viral on TikTok following the Knicks victory parade. Baez has since returned the trash can to the city, but should she have lost her job and her reputation over this incredibly poor and stupid decision to take home a souvenir?
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00:00:02
Speaker 1: Hey the folks, it is Thursday, June twenty fifth, and it was a shocking and now viral video of a woman is simply stealing a trash bin off the streets of Manhattan. First of all, why would anybody do that? Well, she had a really good reason and now she is out of a job with that. Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Rob don't know how to feel about this one, but this is one of those cases of people making a split second decision, behaving badly, too excited, and here we are.
00:00:35
Speaker 2: Yes, this one is a tough one because, yes, if you haven't seen the video, it's very easy to find a woman decked out in Nick's gear. Basically she's got a full mix outfit. But I think the worst part was just watching her dump a full bin that was painted orange and blue Nicks colors along the Knick's Parade. She dumps the entire higher contents of this trash out on the city street without even considering anything and just walks away with the bin.
00:01:08
Speaker 1: Okay, now they are folks, cool bins. What I'm going to say is they really did a good number and a good job here in New York. It was last Thursday, the parade champions. Look, the Knicks had won this thing in fifty three years. This city was ready to explode. It was a very fun day. And the way they decorated, they changed street signs and one of the things they did, Robes. They had these decorative these special edition trash Bians that were blue and orange. I don't it sounds minor, but it added to the festivities cool.
00:01:41
Speaker 3: I actually was so impressed.
00:01:43
Speaker 2: We weren't here, we were traveling abroad, but we watched and looked at all the videos and it did look wel We even see some remnants left behind. We were down Broadway just a few days ago. They still had lights that were orange and blue lighting up the buildings in Nick's colors. So yeah, the pride of the Knicks was on full display along the parade route.
00:02:05
Speaker 3: And can you blame and I.
00:02:06
Speaker 2: Asked this, actually with all sincerity, can you blame someone for wanting to take a little piece of history with you?
00:02:16
Speaker 1: And there it is. And we'll give our take on this later. And we don't not exactly sure how to feel about this, but it is Robes. The city was caught up in such a way that, I mean, the likes of which we haven't seen in our lifetimes, because nothing like this has happened in our lifetimes. And Robes, Yes, there were out there. There were arrests. Afterwards, there were a little like we say, what was the title of our episode? After that we won the championship. Now let's break shit. It's just yes, everybody was just excited. So this video was taken, and if you haven't seen, let's describe and Robes. This is a woman, you say, decked out. This is more than just wearing a Knick's T shirt and jersey. She was head to toe in a to the point she even had a hat on that had like fake braids that make it look like she was Jalen Brunson. I'm saying the woman was. She is hard core, a real true Knicks fan, no doubt about it. So the video picks up and roes. You can if she was being being in court and she this was the evidence against her. You can't argue against it. This is the perfectly framed video and it shows everything she's doing.
00:03:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a woman who just happened to be taking a video and she basically looks right at the woman clearly recording her and just continues about her business. It takes all of five seconds, dumps just casually all the contents, like she's done this before.
00:03:46
Speaker 3: I mean, it really didn't seem like that.
00:03:47
Speaker 2: It wasn't looking around or trying to do something sneakily. Nah, she was just on the middle of the street broad daylight says, I want this trash can, looks at the straight at the camera, and dumps out the contents and walks away with her.
00:04:02
Speaker 1: Not a fan of people even throwing a napkin onto a city street, a cigarette butt, a cup, just littering is one of those things, right, it's a pet peeve. It's rude, it's just it's I don't know, it says something about you if you can do that. So that's just a separate thing. So the idea trash of seeing a New York City trash bin, which are some of the nastiest things. You don't know what's in that thing, so it's full and to see somebody robes and again it's made with kind of that was it mesh or netting? Its metal, but you can see what's in the content. She knew it was disgusting.
00:04:39
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And when she dumped it out I couldn't even believe, like just all the look she lives here, I would assume she's a New Yorker. I think that's what disturbs me more than anything. Look, we see people throw things, and usually it's young, stupid kids, or it's people who don't live here. Because you don't do that to your street. You don't do that to your neighborhood. You don't leave behind just disgusting trash for someone else to pick up so you can take what you want. That is entitlement. That is really, frankly like that type of behavior. It's for me, it's less about the trash can, and it's more about what she left behind.
00:05:19
Speaker 1: It's you know what, I think that part, the dumping of the trash ones of the street, I guess is the more offensive thing. It maybe says more about her than her taking the trash ban. If the bin was there and empty, I've got a bunch of people would have picked that thing up and try to take off with it. That's bad enough. It is shocking to see somebody do that.
00:05:38
Speaker 2: I also feel like, go buy your own mesh trash can. Get inspo from what the New York Knicks did to their trash cans and make your own trash can, have a little dy projects for your soul.
00:05:50
Speaker 1: This one's a part of the parade. I want this one.
00:05:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, where she putting that massive trash can, Like, she must have a lot of garbage that she wants to proudly display.
00:05:59
Speaker 1: Maybe she had the room in the basement a whole Nick's base.
00:06:01
Speaker 2: People have been very mean online about what they say she could have done with that trash.
00:06:06
Speaker 1: It's mean, it's part of it. And the many people are making a point of how she looks they're making fun of. It's clear the woman is overweight. There's no other way to say about it. But yes, folks have attacked her. It has been incredibly ugly. Ugly is a better word than mean.
00:06:25
Speaker 2: Ugly, And this thing right now I'm looking what has twelve million views. I mean, so everyone is looking at this video and a lot thousands of people are commenting, and most of them are really they're cruel, They're ugly, they are. But I also understand that a lot of people are pointing out to the fact that she just littered all this trash onto the street. I actually see more people upset about that, which I totally get yep, than they are about her taking this trash can.
00:06:54
Speaker 1: If she had taken I had stoked, if we had a video of her stealing a trash can, some of the response it was empty. Some of the responses would have been damn hate, I wasn't there right, like, man, I would have grabbed it too. It is something about that that is so mean, and so to see her dump the trap that's almost unconscionable. Agreed feels like agreed kind of person that I'm not making a judgment on this woman. We don't know her, but the video robes when you see it, it's that thing like who would do it? I saw it later time. I should bring it up because I don't know if it's Ai. The one of her looks like she's on a train. I didn't go through and see if it was in confirm it's what it was. But it was her sitting on a New York City.
00:07:36
Speaker 3: Subway with the trash can.
00:07:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, like leaning over it comfortable and.
00:07:41
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she was not embarrassed. She wasn't shy. She was she wasn't running. She didn't look as if she knew she was doing something wrong. She looked as if she was entitled to do exactly what she was doing, and this was just normal. Now you kept saying, who would do this kind of thing? What kind of a person would do this type of thing? That is what makes this story all the more shocking, because this is a woman who was an executive with a very prestigious banking institution here in the city.
00:08:12
Speaker 1: I don't know if it should make a difference. It does, though, I don't know if it does well. It makes a difference to them.
00:08:17
Speaker 2: Apparently it does because I think it speaks to what our expectations. We expect a certain type of person to be capable of that. Someone who doesn't care about the world, someone who doesn't care about their surroundings, someone who doesn't give a damn about other people. When you talk about an executive with JP Morgan Chase, that is shocking.
00:08:39
Speaker 3: She should know better. She's forty years old.
00:08:43
Speaker 1: There are sixth graders that our children middle school that know not to do what this woman did. So it's she was identified fairly soon afterwards, and I wasn't sure, like really they maybe they got way When I heard, I said, no way, But Angie Biez is the name. She's forty years old and her official title with the company used to be executive director of Community and Industry Engagement, and JP Morgan Chase does confirm that she is no longer with the company now. A lot of headlines saying she was fired. We don't know that for sure, maybe just personnel reasons, but she's not there anymore to JP Morgan Chain.
00:09:28
Speaker 2: That's correct, And people have done some dives onto her employment history. Know that she's held positions with other esteemed organizations. She's worked in the DEI area of some positions, and so there are Fox News I will just say in New York posts, some of them are going off on the fact that she had a position where she's supposed to be promoting tolerance and equity and just.
00:09:56
Speaker 3: Dealing with people and acknowledging how people live and exist around one another.
00:10:00
Speaker 2: And to be able to then have that kind of of a position, that kind of a role, and then to do what she did on the city streets, it's hard to reconcile those two things.
00:10:10
Speaker 1: Ohs, you could have told me she was anything. You could have told me she was a teacher. You could have told me she worked a food truck in Central Park. You could have told me she did anything, and I would have been shocked by this behavior. It's just it just is. Now I know a name like JP Morgan Jay's what is she supposed to be. She's not above being a super fan. She's not above making a mistake. She's not above this moment. I'm try and I know people do and they jump to conclusions because the first time y'all met Angie Bias was when you saw her dumping trash onto a city street. Correct, this is not all this woman is, obviously, I'm sure she's what. I hope she has made some positive contributions out there. I just you can't help it rolls when these things get going like this, and I just can't imagine what that woman is going through. I hate it for but I don't think the punishment she's getting right now fits the crime. I don't think the level of hatred that's coming towards her. I don't feel that maybe whatever struggle finding another job, whatever struggle losing a job, it doesn't fit the crime. The crime is awful as hell. I think she's been fined for it, and you can't steal city property. Sure, Ah, this is just this is one I hate that it's happened to it, but she brought it on herself.
00:11:23
Speaker 3: That is very true. And the fact that it's all on video.
00:11:26
Speaker 2: You know, if this was a still, if this was maybe obscured slightly, but the fact that you see her, you see what she is doing and how she's doing it, and unfortunately for her, what.
00:11:38
Speaker 3: She looks like doing it.
00:11:39
Speaker 2: People are just she is basically just become a target of hatred, and I agree she doesn't deserve that.
00:11:49
Speaker 3: She's in the thick of it. Now.
00:11:51
Speaker 2: The Sanitation Department did put out a pretty funny statement concerning what happened and what we all saw, and.
00:11:59
Speaker 1: Look, I'm glad they added a little levity to this situation. But the Santa Station Department, we don't usually get a chance to interact with them and hear their sense of humor. But they made a good point in their statement saying, first, we would reiterate previous comments that dumping trash into the street and stealing public property for your own personal use are both illegal, anti social behaviors and not what New Yorkers do. On top of all that, doing both on camera is incredibly stupid. It is somebody's filming you doing that. You don't stop.
00:12:33
Speaker 3: You don't like, you don't think, oh yikes, I'm getting caught.
00:12:36
Speaker 1: Dumped it. You look at the camera and go, yeah, you got me. Let me pick all this stuff up and put it back and going would have been a different situation, might have kept a job. But rope to react that way, like, I don't give bud who sees me was It's strange.
00:12:50
Speaker 2: If I threw a which, by the way, like I said, littering to me is one of the worst offenses. But I can't even imagine throwing like whatever, I don't know, a gum wrapper, or napping on the city street and someone's videoing me you're gonna run and.
00:13:05
Speaker 3: Pick it up and go, I'm so sorry that fell out of my hands.
00:13:07
Speaker 1: Whatever.
00:13:08
Speaker 2: But the dump an entire trash can in front of a camera. Now, I did appreciate the fact that she returned the bin, and then the sanitation department went back onto X and said welcome back, we missed you, and put a picture of the trash can.
00:13:22
Speaker 3: I thought that was cute.
00:13:23
Speaker 1: That was cute. It was really well done by our sanitation department, who are daily heroes in this damn city. And I have no idea how they handle all the trash in the city.
00:13:33
Speaker 3: They're awesome.
00:13:33
Speaker 2: By the way, if you ever watched New Year's Eve, and you've ever watched the aftermath of New Year's Eve, after that ball drops and you see them all dancing to New York, New York with kicking up their legs like the rockets with their brooms, and there they are. They keep this city running. Our hats are continually.
00:13:49
Speaker 3: Yes to those men and women.
00:13:52
Speaker 2: Who do a difficult job, but a very one of the most important jobs in this city, you know.
00:13:57
Speaker 1: And I have to robes over the I've had interactions with a lot of city workers of some kind with different departments robes. I have had great interactions with guys who worked those trucks. How is that possible? They have traffic cops. I've had issues with them regular cops. Some of those interactions then goes so great, all kinds of stuff, robes, MTA workers.
00:14:23
Speaker 3: It could go either way, but.
00:14:26
Speaker 1: We don't get enough opportunity to give our hats off to the sanitation department. So really really well done. But with all this and the debate and the back and forth, it seems pretty clear, at least online, how people feel about this woman, what she did and what should have happened to her? But stay here, we'll share our thoughts. Should Angie Bias have lost a job over this?
00:14:55
Speaker 2: Welcome back everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ. We are talking about a woman who was caught red handed or orange handed, whatever you want to say. Forty year old Andrew Biaz caught on camera didn't seem to bother her. She clearly knew she was being recorded dumping all the trash out of a Nicks themed trash cancer she could take it home with her as a souvenir from the historic parade of the Knicks NBA Championship. Problem is, yes, she was easily and quickly identified, and she it appears she was quickly and swiftly terminated from her position as an executive at JP Morgan Chase.
00:15:34
Speaker 3: She is no longer employed.
00:15:35
Speaker 2: That is the official word from the bank, But a lot of folks are reporting that, yes, that video is the reason why she no longer has a job.
00:15:43
Speaker 1: Then, sure she might have resigned after all the thing. Maybe sure was pressured to do so, But the bottom line isn't of it all? I assume right. We can argue all day long, ropes that that we had an amicable split with ABC, but at the end of the day, a kind of a thing.
00:16:03
Speaker 2: It's one of those they can say we came to a mutual decision, but the truth is, yeah, we didn't want to.
00:16:09
Speaker 1: We didn't want to be there.
00:16:09
Speaker 2: And excuse me, they like we wanted to be there, they didn't want us say they could.
00:16:15
Speaker 1: Have been one of those situations. But these are these are those stories.
00:16:21
Speaker 2: Right.
00:16:21
Speaker 1: She did she did wrong. She was very wrong in what she did, and there's a punishment for doing that, and there are consequences to our actions. It's that when things get online, there is video that obviously ropes that's the big deal here. But this is now taken off in such a way that's going to change this woman's life. And I just I said it earlier. The punishment she's getting right now doesn't fit the crime. She's become a joke, she's become fodder and people are throwing things her way that some will say she did it. She deserves the criticism.
00:16:54
Speaker 2: She's suffering the consequences in the sense that she lost her job. And look, we know when when you lose your reputation and your name is out there, that is a very difficult, very steep.
00:17:05
Speaker 3: Mountain to climb and to get over and through.
00:17:07
Speaker 2: People are already writing articles about how she'll never be employed again. And look, this is incredibly difficult for her to overcome. And I don't know how you explained it, how you justify it. She hasn't publicly spoken as far as I've seen after this all, but I imagine she's in hiding. I bet you there are paparazzi outside her house right now.
00:17:26
Speaker 3: And we know all too well how awful that feels.
00:17:28
Speaker 2: And look, the woman who took the story, who took the video in the first place, who posted it to TikTok, I believe is where she posted the original video that eventually went viral. She actually said that. This is her quote to NBC News. I genuinely feel so bad for her. I never expected the response to be so negative when I posted that video.
00:17:49
Speaker 3: This is what our parents warned us about.
00:17:51
Speaker 1: I hate this story. I just I hate what she did. Hate what she did. She did wrong, But we got to find a way robes to give to not do this group like a full on hate army attack on a woman we don't know, and we just don't know and robes. She's never gonna work again. She should never work again. She made an awful mistake in the exuberance and the built up hype of fifty something years in this city. It doesn't excuse what she did, but it does explain a little better. A lot of people got caught up. There were people hanging from lights and whatnot, robes, A lot of people did stupid stuff. She was caught on camera doing it. And here we are.
00:18:41
Speaker 3: People through punches at police officers.
00:18:43
Speaker 1: Yes, and we didn't and yes, that's a different type of crime. They're going to be punishing what. I just this punishment for this woman is a constant berating an attack on her that I just the punishment doesn't fit the crime.
00:18:59
Speaker 2: Baby, I agree with you, I do what she did was disgusting. She should absolutely pay fines. I think she should have to spend, however many weeks picking up trash along New York City. I think those types of things are effective and important, and she should have those types of consequences. But to lose your job and to basically be mocked and ridiculed now probably for I don't even want to say months and years to come, But I don't know when you have her name, if she's always going to be under that umbrella of shame, can she ever get out of that umbrella of shame because she made a bad decision? Was it one bad moment? Has she ever done anything like that before? All of that should be taken into consideration and should we all be judged by our worst moment?
00:19:50
Speaker 3: And that's what's happening.
00:19:51
Speaker 1: That's what's happening because it's the only moment we've been introduced to her. It's all we know. And I just I hope, I don't know you. All these things broke. The thing we're not giving her is just grace. I just asked for that. Yeah, before you type that message, before you put up that joke you think is gonna get you more attention and more followers and more interests, before you use the hashtag about the trash pen, just stop and give this lady a little grace.
00:20:18
Speaker 3: She's a human being, little grace.
00:20:20
Speaker 1: She didn't kill anybody, right, she's not accused of some worse crime that even has jail time. Well, just a little grace for somebody who did something incredibly stupid and just because rods you dump out trash on the City Street. I don't think you should lose your job. I just I my heart hurts for this woman. I saw the video. I was shocked by it. I was offended by it. As a New Yorker, I couldn't believe she did what she did, and I thought to myself, what a moron. But morons need to pay the bills, and morons are momentary morons.
00:20:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, maybe she's actually a highly intelligent human being who just like you, Like you say, lost yourself in the moment, wanted that trash can so badly and said, effet, everybody else is doing stuff.
00:21:08
Speaker 3: I don't know what she saw around her.
00:21:09
Speaker 2: I don't know if she was motivated by other people doing the same thing and.
00:21:12
Speaker 3: She just got caught bolded.
00:21:14
Speaker 1: I bet she did.
00:21:14
Speaker 2: But that would make sense because if you've ever taken a sociology class, the whole like a group think, is a real thing. When you see other people doing things, when you see other people stealing things, when you see other people grabbing what they want, people tend to do the same, and they follow.
00:21:30
Speaker 1: How about this. I wonder if any other trash bins were taken, just the only one.
00:21:35
Speaker 2: So I actually saw something online where people were saying, as predicted, because look, you put out these adorable NIX themed anything, even if they're trash bins, if they're useful and you can take them home, street signs, whatever. People love to put stuff like that in their garages.
00:21:53
Speaker 1: Immediate when they put them out.
00:21:55
Speaker 2: Yes, so it was almost like this temptation just sitting there. And like you said, if it didn't have trash and it would anybody really be complaining.
00:22:05
Speaker 1: But again, folks, that's a reminder, not just to Angie Bias, but anybody around you and just give them a little grace sometimes, even when they do stupid stuff, stuff that offends you, stuff that hurts you, and stuff that's wrong that we all see clearly is wrong. Sometimes just a little thought, a little grace that we all screw up.
00:22:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really good reminder. We always appreciate you all listening to us as always.
00:22:28
Speaker 3: Thank you. I'm Amy Robach alongside TJ. Holmes. We will talk to you soon.
Speaker 1: Hey the folks, it is Thursday, June twenty fifth, and it was a shocking and now viral video of a woman is simply stealing a trash bin off the streets of Manhattan. First of all, why would anybody do that? Well, she had a really good reason and now she is out of a job with that. Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Rob don't know how to feel about this one, but this is one of those cases of people making a split second decision, behaving badly, too excited, and here we are.
00:00:35
Speaker 2: Yes, this one is a tough one because, yes, if you haven't seen the video, it's very easy to find a woman decked out in Nick's gear. Basically she's got a full mix outfit. But I think the worst part was just watching her dump a full bin that was painted orange and blue Nicks colors along the Knick's Parade. She dumps the entire higher contents of this trash out on the city street without even considering anything and just walks away with the bin.
00:01:08
Speaker 1: Okay, now they are folks, cool bins. What I'm going to say is they really did a good number and a good job here in New York. It was last Thursday, the parade champions. Look, the Knicks had won this thing in fifty three years. This city was ready to explode. It was a very fun day. And the way they decorated, they changed street signs and one of the things they did, Robes. They had these decorative these special edition trash Bians that were blue and orange. I don't it sounds minor, but it added to the festivities cool.
00:01:41
Speaker 3: I actually was so impressed.
00:01:43
Speaker 2: We weren't here, we were traveling abroad, but we watched and looked at all the videos and it did look wel We even see some remnants left behind. We were down Broadway just a few days ago. They still had lights that were orange and blue lighting up the buildings in Nick's colors. So yeah, the pride of the Knicks was on full display along the parade route.
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Speaker 3: And can you blame and I.
00:02:06
Speaker 2: Asked this, actually with all sincerity, can you blame someone for wanting to take a little piece of history with you?
00:02:16
Speaker 1: And there it is. And we'll give our take on this later. And we don't not exactly sure how to feel about this, but it is Robes. The city was caught up in such a way that, I mean, the likes of which we haven't seen in our lifetimes, because nothing like this has happened in our lifetimes. And Robes, Yes, there were out there. There were arrests. Afterwards, there were a little like we say, what was the title of our episode? After that we won the championship. Now let's break shit. It's just yes, everybody was just excited. So this video was taken, and if you haven't seen, let's describe and Robes. This is a woman, you say, decked out. This is more than just wearing a Knick's T shirt and jersey. She was head to toe in a to the point she even had a hat on that had like fake braids that make it look like she was Jalen Brunson. I'm saying the woman was. She is hard core, a real true Knicks fan, no doubt about it. So the video picks up and roes. You can if she was being being in court and she this was the evidence against her. You can't argue against it. This is the perfectly framed video and it shows everything she's doing.
00:03:28
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a woman who just happened to be taking a video and she basically looks right at the woman clearly recording her and just continues about her business. It takes all of five seconds, dumps just casually all the contents, like she's done this before.
00:03:46
Speaker 3: I mean, it really didn't seem like that.
00:03:47
Speaker 2: It wasn't looking around or trying to do something sneakily. Nah, she was just on the middle of the street broad daylight says, I want this trash can, looks at the straight at the camera, and dumps out the contents and walks away with her.
00:04:02
Speaker 1: Not a fan of people even throwing a napkin onto a city street, a cigarette butt, a cup, just littering is one of those things, right, it's a pet peeve. It's rude, it's just it's I don't know, it says something about you if you can do that. So that's just a separate thing. So the idea trash of seeing a New York City trash bin, which are some of the nastiest things. You don't know what's in that thing, so it's full and to see somebody robes and again it's made with kind of that was it mesh or netting? Its metal, but you can see what's in the content. She knew it was disgusting.
00:04:39
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And when she dumped it out I couldn't even believe, like just all the look she lives here, I would assume she's a New Yorker. I think that's what disturbs me more than anything. Look, we see people throw things, and usually it's young, stupid kids, or it's people who don't live here. Because you don't do that to your street. You don't do that to your neighborhood. You don't leave behind just disgusting trash for someone else to pick up so you can take what you want. That is entitlement. That is really, frankly like that type of behavior. It's for me, it's less about the trash can, and it's more about what she left behind.
00:05:19
Speaker 1: It's you know what, I think that part, the dumping of the trash ones of the street, I guess is the more offensive thing. It maybe says more about her than her taking the trash ban. If the bin was there and empty, I've got a bunch of people would have picked that thing up and try to take off with it. That's bad enough. It is shocking to see somebody do that.
00:05:38
Speaker 2: I also feel like, go buy your own mesh trash can. Get inspo from what the New York Knicks did to their trash cans and make your own trash can, have a little dy projects for your soul.
00:05:50
Speaker 1: This one's a part of the parade. I want this one.
00:05:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, where she putting that massive trash can, Like, she must have a lot of garbage that she wants to proudly display.
00:05:59
Speaker 1: Maybe she had the room in the basement a whole Nick's base.
00:06:01
Speaker 2: People have been very mean online about what they say she could have done with that trash.
00:06:06
Speaker 1: It's mean, it's part of it. And the many people are making a point of how she looks they're making fun of. It's clear the woman is overweight. There's no other way to say about it. But yes, folks have attacked her. It has been incredibly ugly. Ugly is a better word than mean.
00:06:25
Speaker 2: Ugly, And this thing right now I'm looking what has twelve million views. I mean, so everyone is looking at this video and a lot thousands of people are commenting, and most of them are really they're cruel, They're ugly, they are. But I also understand that a lot of people are pointing out to the fact that she just littered all this trash onto the street. I actually see more people upset about that, which I totally get yep, than they are about her taking this trash can.
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Speaker 1: If she had taken I had stoked, if we had a video of her stealing a trash can, some of the response it was empty. Some of the responses would have been damn hate, I wasn't there right, like, man, I would have grabbed it too. It is something about that that is so mean, and so to see her dump the trap that's almost unconscionable. Agreed feels like agreed kind of person that I'm not making a judgment on this woman. We don't know her, but the video robes when you see it, it's that thing like who would do it? I saw it later time. I should bring it up because I don't know if it's Ai. The one of her looks like she's on a train. I didn't go through and see if it was in confirm it's what it was. But it was her sitting on a New York City.
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Speaker 3: Subway with the trash can.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like leaning over it comfortable and.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she was not embarrassed. She wasn't shy. She was she wasn't running. She didn't look as if she knew she was doing something wrong. She looked as if she was entitled to do exactly what she was doing, and this was just normal. Now you kept saying, who would do this kind of thing? What kind of a person would do this type of thing? That is what makes this story all the more shocking, because this is a woman who was an executive with a very prestigious banking institution here in the city.
00:08:12
Speaker 1: I don't know if it should make a difference. It does, though, I don't know if it does well. It makes a difference to them.
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Speaker 2: Apparently it does because I think it speaks to what our expectations. We expect a certain type of person to be capable of that. Someone who doesn't care about the world, someone who doesn't care about their surroundings, someone who doesn't give a damn about other people. When you talk about an executive with JP Morgan Chase, that is shocking.
00:08:39
Speaker 3: She should know better. She's forty years old.
00:08:43
Speaker 1: There are sixth graders that our children middle school that know not to do what this woman did. So it's she was identified fairly soon afterwards, and I wasn't sure, like really they maybe they got way When I heard, I said, no way, But Angie Biez is the name. She's forty years old and her official title with the company used to be executive director of Community and Industry Engagement, and JP Morgan Chase does confirm that she is no longer with the company now. A lot of headlines saying she was fired. We don't know that for sure, maybe just personnel reasons, but she's not there anymore to JP Morgan Chain.
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Speaker 2: That's correct, And people have done some dives onto her employment history. Know that she's held positions with other esteemed organizations. She's worked in the DEI area of some positions, and so there are Fox News I will just say in New York posts, some of them are going off on the fact that she had a position where she's supposed to be promoting tolerance and equity and just.
00:09:56
Speaker 3: Dealing with people and acknowledging how people live and exist around one another.
00:10:00
Speaker 2: And to be able to then have that kind of of a position, that kind of a role, and then to do what she did on the city streets, it's hard to reconcile those two things.
00:10:10
Speaker 1: Ohs, you could have told me she was anything. You could have told me she was a teacher. You could have told me she worked a food truck in Central Park. You could have told me she did anything, and I would have been shocked by this behavior. It's just it just is. Now I know a name like JP Morgan Jay's what is she supposed to be. She's not above being a super fan. She's not above making a mistake. She's not above this moment. I'm try and I know people do and they jump to conclusions because the first time y'all met Angie Bias was when you saw her dumping trash onto a city street. Correct, this is not all this woman is, obviously, I'm sure she's what. I hope she has made some positive contributions out there. I just you can't help it rolls when these things get going like this, and I just can't imagine what that woman is going through. I hate it for but I don't think the punishment she's getting right now fits the crime. I don't think the level of hatred that's coming towards her. I don't feel that maybe whatever struggle finding another job, whatever struggle losing a job, it doesn't fit the crime. The crime is awful as hell. I think she's been fined for it, and you can't steal city property. Sure, Ah, this is just this is one I hate that it's happened to it, but she brought it on herself.
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Speaker 3: That is very true. And the fact that it's all on video.
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Speaker 2: You know, if this was a still, if this was maybe obscured slightly, but the fact that you see her, you see what she is doing and how she's doing it, and unfortunately for her, what.
00:11:38
Speaker 3: She looks like doing it.
00:11:39
Speaker 2: People are just she is basically just become a target of hatred, and I agree she doesn't deserve that.
00:11:49
Speaker 3: She's in the thick of it. Now.
00:11:51
Speaker 2: The Sanitation Department did put out a pretty funny statement concerning what happened and what we all saw, and.
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Speaker 1: Look, I'm glad they added a little levity to this situation. But the Santa Station Department, we don't usually get a chance to interact with them and hear their sense of humor. But they made a good point in their statement saying, first, we would reiterate previous comments that dumping trash into the street and stealing public property for your own personal use are both illegal, anti social behaviors and not what New Yorkers do. On top of all that, doing both on camera is incredibly stupid. It is somebody's filming you doing that. You don't stop.
00:12:33
Speaker 3: You don't like, you don't think, oh yikes, I'm getting caught.
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Speaker 1: Dumped it. You look at the camera and go, yeah, you got me. Let me pick all this stuff up and put it back and going would have been a different situation, might have kept a job. But rope to react that way, like, I don't give bud who sees me was It's strange.
00:12:50
Speaker 2: If I threw a which, by the way, like I said, littering to me is one of the worst offenses. But I can't even imagine throwing like whatever, I don't know, a gum wrapper, or napping on the city street and someone's videoing me you're gonna run and.
00:13:05
Speaker 3: Pick it up and go, I'm so sorry that fell out of my hands.
00:13:07
Speaker 1: Whatever.
00:13:08
Speaker 2: But the dump an entire trash can in front of a camera. Now, I did appreciate the fact that she returned the bin, and then the sanitation department went back onto X and said welcome back, we missed you, and put a picture of the trash can.
00:13:22
Speaker 3: I thought that was cute.
00:13:23
Speaker 1: That was cute. It was really well done by our sanitation department, who are daily heroes in this damn city. And I have no idea how they handle all the trash in the city.
00:13:33
Speaker 3: They're awesome.
00:13:33
Speaker 2: By the way, if you ever watched New Year's Eve, and you've ever watched the aftermath of New Year's Eve, after that ball drops and you see them all dancing to New York, New York with kicking up their legs like the rockets with their brooms, and there they are. They keep this city running. Our hats are continually.
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Speaker 3: Yes to those men and women.
00:13:52
Speaker 2: Who do a difficult job, but a very one of the most important jobs in this city, you know.
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Speaker 1: And I have to robes over the I've had interactions with a lot of city workers of some kind with different departments robes. I have had great interactions with guys who worked those trucks. How is that possible? They have traffic cops. I've had issues with them regular cops. Some of those interactions then goes so great, all kinds of stuff, robes, MTA workers.
00:14:23
Speaker 3: It could go either way, but.
00:14:26
Speaker 1: We don't get enough opportunity to give our hats off to the sanitation department. So really really well done. But with all this and the debate and the back and forth, it seems pretty clear, at least online, how people feel about this woman, what she did and what should have happened to her? But stay here, we'll share our thoughts. Should Angie Bias have lost a job over this?
00:14:55
Speaker 2: Welcome back everyone to this episode of Amy and TJ. We are talking about a woman who was caught red handed or orange handed, whatever you want to say. Forty year old Andrew Biaz caught on camera didn't seem to bother her. She clearly knew she was being recorded dumping all the trash out of a Nicks themed trash cancer she could take it home with her as a souvenir from the historic parade of the Knicks NBA Championship. Problem is, yes, she was easily and quickly identified, and she it appears she was quickly and swiftly terminated from her position as an executive at JP Morgan Chase.
00:15:34
Speaker 3: She is no longer employed.
00:15:35
Speaker 2: That is the official word from the bank, But a lot of folks are reporting that, yes, that video is the reason why she no longer has a job.
00:15:43
Speaker 1: Then, sure she might have resigned after all the thing. Maybe sure was pressured to do so, But the bottom line isn't of it all? I assume right. We can argue all day long, ropes that that we had an amicable split with ABC, but at the end of the day, a kind of a thing.
00:16:03
Speaker 2: It's one of those they can say we came to a mutual decision, but the truth is, yeah, we didn't want to.
00:16:09
Speaker 1: We didn't want to be there.
00:16:09
Speaker 2: And excuse me, they like we wanted to be there, they didn't want us say they could.
00:16:15
Speaker 1: Have been one of those situations. But these are these are those stories.
00:16:21
Speaker 2: Right.
00:16:21
Speaker 1: She did she did wrong. She was very wrong in what she did, and there's a punishment for doing that, and there are consequences to our actions. It's that when things get online, there is video that obviously ropes that's the big deal here. But this is now taken off in such a way that's going to change this woman's life. And I just I said it earlier. The punishment she's getting right now doesn't fit the crime. She's become a joke, she's become fodder and people are throwing things her way that some will say she did it. She deserves the criticism.
00:16:54
Speaker 2: She's suffering the consequences in the sense that she lost her job. And look, we know when when you lose your reputation and your name is out there, that is a very difficult, very steep.
00:17:05
Speaker 3: Mountain to climb and to get over and through.
00:17:07
Speaker 2: People are already writing articles about how she'll never be employed again. And look, this is incredibly difficult for her to overcome. And I don't know how you explained it, how you justify it. She hasn't publicly spoken as far as I've seen after this all, but I imagine she's in hiding. I bet you there are paparazzi outside her house right now.
00:17:26
Speaker 3: And we know all too well how awful that feels.
00:17:28
Speaker 2: And look, the woman who took the story, who took the video in the first place, who posted it to TikTok, I believe is where she posted the original video that eventually went viral. She actually said that. This is her quote to NBC News. I genuinely feel so bad for her. I never expected the response to be so negative when I posted that video.
00:17:49
Speaker 3: This is what our parents warned us about.
00:17:51
Speaker 1: I hate this story. I just I hate what she did. Hate what she did. She did wrong, But we got to find a way robes to give to not do this group like a full on hate army attack on a woman we don't know, and we just don't know and robes. She's never gonna work again. She should never work again. She made an awful mistake in the exuberance and the built up hype of fifty something years in this city. It doesn't excuse what she did, but it does explain a little better. A lot of people got caught up. There were people hanging from lights and whatnot, robes, A lot of people did stupid stuff. She was caught on camera doing it. And here we are.
00:18:41
Speaker 3: People through punches at police officers.
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Speaker 1: Yes, and we didn't and yes, that's a different type of crime. They're going to be punishing what. I just this punishment for this woman is a constant berating an attack on her that I just the punishment doesn't fit the crime.
00:18:59
Speaker 2: Baby, I agree with you, I do what she did was disgusting. She should absolutely pay fines. I think she should have to spend, however many weeks picking up trash along New York City. I think those types of things are effective and important, and she should have those types of consequences. But to lose your job and to basically be mocked and ridiculed now probably for I don't even want to say months and years to come, But I don't know when you have her name, if she's always going to be under that umbrella of shame, can she ever get out of that umbrella of shame because she made a bad decision? Was it one bad moment? Has she ever done anything like that before? All of that should be taken into consideration and should we all be judged by our worst moment?
00:19:50
Speaker 3: And that's what's happening.
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Speaker 1: That's what's happening because it's the only moment we've been introduced to her. It's all we know. And I just I hope, I don't know you. All these things broke. The thing we're not giving her is just grace. I just asked for that. Yeah, before you type that message, before you put up that joke you think is gonna get you more attention and more followers and more interests, before you use the hashtag about the trash pen, just stop and give this lady a little grace.
00:20:18
Speaker 3: She's a human being, little grace.
00:20:20
Speaker 1: She didn't kill anybody, right, she's not accused of some worse crime that even has jail time. Well, just a little grace for somebody who did something incredibly stupid and just because rods you dump out trash on the City Street. I don't think you should lose your job. I just I my heart hurts for this woman. I saw the video. I was shocked by it. I was offended by it. As a New Yorker, I couldn't believe she did what she did, and I thought to myself, what a moron. But morons need to pay the bills, and morons are momentary morons.
00:20:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, maybe she's actually a highly intelligent human being who just like you, Like you say, lost yourself in the moment, wanted that trash can so badly and said, effet, everybody else is doing stuff.
00:21:08
Speaker 3: I don't know what she saw around her.
00:21:09
Speaker 2: I don't know if she was motivated by other people doing the same thing and.
00:21:12
Speaker 3: She just got caught bolded.
00:21:14
Speaker 1: I bet she did.
00:21:14
Speaker 2: But that would make sense because if you've ever taken a sociology class, the whole like a group think, is a real thing. When you see other people doing things, when you see other people stealing things, when you see other people grabbing what they want, people tend to do the same, and they follow.
00:21:30
Speaker 1: How about this. I wonder if any other trash bins were taken, just the only one.
00:21:35
Speaker 2: So I actually saw something online where people were saying, as predicted, because look, you put out these adorable NIX themed anything, even if they're trash bins, if they're useful and you can take them home, street signs, whatever. People love to put stuff like that in their garages.
00:21:53
Speaker 1: Immediate when they put them out.
00:21:55
Speaker 2: Yes, so it was almost like this temptation just sitting there. And like you said, if it didn't have trash and it would anybody really be complaining.
00:22:05
Speaker 1: But again, folks, that's a reminder, not just to Angie Bias, but anybody around you and just give them a little grace sometimes, even when they do stupid stuff, stuff that offends you, stuff that hurts you, and stuff that's wrong that we all see clearly is wrong. Sometimes just a little thought, a little grace that we all screw up.
00:22:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a really good reminder. We always appreciate you all listening to us as always.
00:22:28
Speaker 3: Thank you. I'm Amy Robach alongside TJ. Holmes. We will talk to you soon.