Arrests Made As White House Insists “Vandals” Are To Blame For Reflecting Pool Woes

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Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Sunday, June twenty first, Yes, Father's Day, and on this Father's Day, our long national nightmare is just beginning. Can you believe the reflecting pool in DC is now the biggest story going in the country. With that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. A little being a little silly there in what I'm saying, but roped it is being talked about. It seems like more than Dan War.

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Speaker 2: I feel like this is maybe even a father's gift to you personally. You have had a blast laughing about this story because it keeps getting stranger and weirder, and yes, at a certain point laughable. I mean, it's not funny, but you kind of have to laugh because it's so insane.

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Speaker 1: It's insane that a pool that the president bragged about fixing gets fixed. Days later, it's coming back with the exact same problems, some of them even worse, and now the President is blame vandals, leftists, and Olympians for causing the problems, and reporters this story is amazing, Robes, it's amazing.

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Speaker 2: You know what's also bizarre, like when you're describing and this is a crime story according to officials and President Trump, because yes, we know of one specific arrest, which we will get into. He's a three time Olympian and I'm not even making that up. When you said that to me, I thought, can't be true. Started reading about it, and my jaw just dropped. In addition to he says multiple other arrests, which I say, he says, because we don't really have any proof of who those other people were who apparently were cutting up and pouring corrosive chemicals all to destroy his beautiful reflecting pool leading up to the days of the fourth of July and the big two hundred and fiftieth celebration of our country. Yeah, this is a crime story, babe. Here you got the crime piece.

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Speaker 1: This is not a crime. Oh, it's not a crime.

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Speaker 2: This these this is the result of vandals. This is a politics.

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Speaker 1: This is still a political story. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Criminal political story often go hand in hand.

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Speaker 1: Well it has lately, hasn't it with a lot of politicians. But absolutely this time what we're talking about. Let's get you caught up. Yes, the reflecting pool, you know about it, You've been hearing about it forever. The president last at the end of last year, really took an interest in it, wanted to clean it up, and then he came back this year say we're gonna we're gonna drain it, We're gonna paint the bottom with this American flag blue. We're gonna fill it back up. We're gonna get the algae, get the trash out of there, like Biden and Obama couldn't do. And this thing is gonna be beautiful and reflect and it's gonna be in ready in time for the fourth of July. That got us up to what we saw the last several days. Robes. If folks don't know, if anybody's been to DC, have you ever seen the National Reflecting Pool, a shiny, clear, pristine blue that reflects anything. No, Okay, we understand. It's what it is.

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Speaker 2: It's a pond, and it's a pool. It's a pond. It's it's shallow, it's hot in DC. If you aren't treating it like a pool that people swim in, yeah that stuff. Look at any pond that's stagnant, it gets algae, it gets green. But I think the biggest issue is he kept acting as if presidents before him, certainly democratic presidents before him, were so derelict in their duties, that they allowed our beautiful national reflecting pool to fall into disrepair, and he would put up on social media it looked like arm again, like Obama's reflecting pool versus Trump's reflecting pool. So the fact that he he started this like basically throwing shade on other administrations for not doing what he could do. And now that his reflecting pool, despite the millions and millions of dollars he's poured into it, now looks exactly the same, if not worse. Oh, he has to blame someone, and it's not his problem. It's vandals, it's Jonathan carl It's an Olympian.

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Speaker 1: What you know that, Robes, you hit it. This is what we're talking about. This is the setup that was necessary, Robes. The reason this is a story not because some of the Democrats wanted to give him a hard time of people who opposed him want to give him a hard time. He made this such a big deal about how he could do it like nobody else could, and that he could do it cheaper than anybody else could. And I'll remind you as well, Robes of those AI generated images of him and Rubio and other members of his cabinet swimming in the pool, the reflecting pool. Robes. He has put this out there, and he's done press conferences with the war going on, and he pulls out images and stuff, wants to talk about the reflection.

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Speaker 2: He's been obsessed with it, and he created the expectation. Yes, this was going to be this glimmering kind of physical manifestation of what President Trump could do and the and the legacy he could leave behind.

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Speaker 1: So days was it three? Maybe robes But days after the work was complete. The pool looked great for a matter of hours. But what happens robes when you have standing water with no proper filtration and it's one hundred degrees and the sun is beating down on said shallow water all day.

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Speaker 2: You get algae. Yes, I had ay pond before, and algae is a is a come. It's so common and it's so difficult to manage. So yes, algae took over very quickly. But on top of that, pieces from this brand new American flag blue bottom that were painted to make it look bluer and prettier started peeling up from the bottom and floating to the service. You now you've got peeled blue paint alongside green algae. It looks terrible.

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Speaker 1: So those are two big problems. Robes. The president can say the algae natural, we're working on that, but as far as the blue plant paint, you can't. You have to blame somebody for that because that was his idea that he bragged about, and it can't be a suggestion that the job he promoted and the job he pushed for is failing. So this is where we are now with where Robes, He's got to blame somebody. Now, I'm trying to leave space here, Robes, trying to leave space. Is it possible that vandals have been jumping into that water, taking knives and cutting up the bottom of that surface?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I you know what I I because is it possible? I guess do we have I don't know the answer to this. Are there surveillance cameras?

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Speaker 1: Not one suggestion of that? No?

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Speaker 2: Okay, So I guess it's possible.

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Speaker 1: So what the suggestion is, and we have seen at least one arrest, and we've seen some other stuff online videos that people being detained or getting citations, is that people are sticking their hand in the water and pulling up a piece that's floating or a piece they see because now they want to take it home as a.

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Speaker 2: Souvenir, right, because it's like, oh my gosh, this is the peeling paint from the reflecting pool. So yes, people, I do believe that absolutely is occurring. But the bigger question is how did it start peeling in the first place. And so the President seems to suggest, well he doesn't seem to. He suggests in his truth social posts, and he had several of them, that there are folks vandals who are pouring corrosive chemicals into the pool to basically disrupt the paint or the ceilant, and that is what's caused it to peel off and float up.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's what he's going with. We're going to read you three statements that he made, and we're going to read them in order of when the work was first done and some green started showing back up. Look, the green is there, The algae is there. That pool is not blue, it is green. Algae has taken over completely. I don't know, robes if it's possible to clean that stuff out without doing a different type of renovation for this pool. It's green, it's going to make.

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Speaker 2: There it sounds like right now they're discussing and talking about they're going to have to completely take all the water out again.

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Speaker 1: The thing. Even if they do that, the argument from the experts is that you have to replace all of the piping, and there are I mean miles and miles of piping with this thing. The problem with the system, as you know, I did a deep dive the ropes. You've got pipes that are supposed to pump out and enter feel like filtrated water, like fresh right, cleaned water. Those pipes have leaks. Those pipes are broken, so you're not getting that full flow of fresh water, so you're not it's not working. That makes sense unless you change that. They haven't. With all the work you've seen, they haven't addressed the exact port.

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Speaker 2: You know what's crazy. We should ask the Romans the Italians, right, Oh, that's a whole other problem. But the Italians, like we're talking thousands of years ago, figured out how to do this. We watched there in Italy people walk up to all the public fountains and what and literally put their water bottles and drink from it and it's absolutely purified. The Romans figured out something how to have some filtration system with I don't know what or how they did it, but we should ask.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know if they have a How how long is this pool? Again, it's how many football fields. It's taller than the.

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Speaker 2: Empire State Building.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how do you get ropes? It's shallow water. You can stand in it. This is stuff they tell you to get out of your back water. So you don't have mostados, right, get this out of your yard. It is an enormous stretch. How are you supposed to get all the algae out? You can't? Okay, So the president this is the initial and they are kind of long, but we were going to get through and let you hear exactly what he said. But this was his first statement when algae first started coming back, and he's putting all these statements on true social All right, Ed.

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Speaker 2: Free talked about how many things they've cleaned and renovated and beautified. He begins with this. However, we've had some real problems with vandalism at the beautiful Reflecting Pool, which sits between the Washington Monument and the Lincoln Memorial. Just like three days ago, they destroyed the grass outside of the pool. They've also done everything possible to hurt the inside surface that was just installed. No different than the chemicals that were used on the National Mall. They use something similar in the reflecting pool to try and destroy and demean our beautiful work. Lightweight ABC reporter Jonathan Carl was seen sticking his hand into the pool and trying to rip the rubber off of the surface. The algae is seventy five percent gone and the condition will soon be completely remedied and the area that was vandalized, fortunately is just a small area of damage and will be fixed early next time week. It's a shame that the radical left lunatics, mostly the Democrats, who have spent their lives trying to ruin our country are free to do so. Law enforcement is actively investigating the situation and will hopefully have it resolved soon. So he's claiming that, yes, like that round up or whatever someone used on the grass to destroy the grass, they use that same chemical in the pool. And look, we watched the Jonathan Carl video. You can watch it yourself. He just touches to show what's happening. He's not pulling the rubber off.

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Speaker 1: Clearly does not and that's verifiable. This is not taking issues that is verified. He did not do with the President's And we.

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Speaker 2: Know Jonathan Carl. Jonathan Carl is not vandalizing the reflecting bull obviously, and there's video of him not.

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Speaker 1: Don't take our word, yes.

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Speaker 2: But like, let's just let's have some common sense prevail here.

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Speaker 1: Well, I hate this he is now, No, it's somebody's being blamed. Now, there's a whole group of a faction of folks that follow him and maybe listen to this and thinks that folks on the other side of doing something up to something that they do. This is starting a war over that doesn't need to be starting. This is all It wasn't maloney the Prime Minister of Italypes. You have to world leaders, I guess. But somebody, babe, has got to stop this. This has got to He's just paranoid, decides to make up whatever and put it out Robes that's a lie about Jonathan Carl.

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Speaker 2: It's a lie. It's an absolute, absolute lie. So he puts out a second statement President Trump and says the United States Park Police have arrested multiple individuals for vandalizing our nation's magnificent reflecting pool. Who would do such a thing? These are very serious crimes having to do with the destruction of national monuments. Years in jail. Work will begin immediately on its repair, President d DJT. And then he goes on for his third statement, saying, many additional people have been arrested having to do with the disgraceful vandalism of our beautiful reflecting pool. It hasn't looked or worked like this since nineteen twenty two. He's talking about how great it worked, how perfect it was. Then he says, what these terrible vandals have done is a true affront to both Presidents George Washington and Abraham Lincoln, and should be dealt with accordingly. We met with contractors today, will probably be forced to release and drain much of the water in order to do the necessary repairs, but will have them done as quickly as possible. He does go on to say that, yes, he talks about the chemicals. Then he said, they took some form of knife or blade and put a two hundred and fifty foot long gash into the beautiful facade of what took so much work, competence, and money to build and complete. They also poured corrosive and destructive chemicals into the pool, so.

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Speaker 1: It's a two hundred and fifty foot long gash. He that's what he says, that's a long gash.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it is. I don't know. Look, the question is he keeps saying and talking about these multiple people who've been arrested. The only name that I could find of the person who was arrested was the three time Olympian and a cyclist. His name is David Carter Hearn. He's sixty seven years old. He was he represented the United States as a canoeist, and he actually had just finished a fifty mile bike ride, so he was in full cycling gear. You can see the arrest for yourself.

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Speaker 1: Looks great, by the way, Yes.

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Speaker 2: He looks amazing. And look. So he goes by the reflecting pool and he said he was interested because he has a company that basically makes canoes and waterproofing things. So he was just curious, like, oh, what was the surface that now is floating up to the top. So he said he dipped his hand. He was curious, and he said, yes, I was feeling one of the peeled off strips of paint because I was just curious from my business standpoint of what is it that they used that now has it floating to the top, and he literally was arrested and charged and is facing up to ten years in prison. He said he was detained for four hours, wasn't allowed to make a phone call in his cycling gear with.

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Speaker 1: His bike destroying a national monument or vandalism correct, a national monument. If they are going to start charging people just for putting their hands in the water, Rose, that's a shame. That's some police state shit there that is insane. Put their hand in the water. Even if somebody does rip up a piece that's already loose. Vandalism, No, that's Rose. He's now been able to turn this into look at the beautiful thing. I did, look at what they're trying to destroy.

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Speaker 2: But so far, the only person we know that he's arrested is an Olympian who was on a fifty mile bike ride.

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Speaker 1: Was his line. It's been several arrests, multiple arrests.

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Speaker 2: We haven't heard of anyone else specifically. No other names that I have seen have been released as of this recording. It is of note though mister Hearn did say that he is getting a lot of support from his community and he's been given a lot of offers of pro bono representation because he's going to have some major legal battles ahead of that.

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Speaker 1: And there's a lot of people lining up waiting to take on the White House and administration. That's how you make you, basically what he said, how you get famous. A but stay whether this isn't the only controversy surrounding this particular pool. You know, you never like to hear no bid contracts about stuff like this.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back everyone to this reflecting pool episode of Amy and TJ, where there's a lot of work going on, some round the clock work going on. We've seen the videos and the images of workers pouring hydrogen peroxide into the water. That didn't work, So now they're pumping it out and you can actually see the water coming out of the reflecting pool and it's solid.

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Speaker 1: Green green right now. And it's fine. The pool is always green. We're used to pool being green. But when you told us it's gonna be crystal blue and then three days later it's back to green. Okay, I'll raise my hand and ask a couple of questions. That's not crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's kind of crazy because now you're looking at like the National Park Service, they've got teams out there vacuuming up dead algae. I mean it, just wait, this is a crazy statement.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I love it.

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Speaker 2: We need to read this. The Interior Department actually went on to X because this one made me laugh out loud. This was this was their statement. Is it the whole thing or just the reflecting pool water?

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Speaker 1: Yes, both of them, go get it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'll do it all at once. The advanced nano bubbler technology very effectively killed the algae that has plagued every Lincoln Reflecting Pool reopening, most infamously Obama's reopening since nineteen twenty two. The reflecting pool water is crystal clear, and our National Park Service team is now vacuuming up the algae resting on the bottom of some parts of the reflecting pool, just like the destroyed Iranian navy resting on the bottom of the Persian Gulf.

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Speaker 1: What is wrong with us?

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Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: Right now? What's wrong with us?

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Speaker 2: Why?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Fine? I mean some people rally around that and they think it's cute and fun, and it's.

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Speaker 2: Not cute fun to talk about war and making an analogy to your the Iranian navy resting on the bottom of the persian.

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Speaker 1: Okay, say that somebody thought they were being cute and saying that perhaps and maybe that's a plaut it. Look, Robes, isn't that in line with much of what we see the president put on social media and how And that's that's light work if you compared to some of the President's stuff. So, yes, they are following in line here, but yes, this pool has had the same problem forever. One other problem here, Robes, is that New York Times reporting that the company that was hired to do the contract work to do the purification system and install a water purification system was given the contract without bidding, and they report that the bidding went to a company that is owned by a guy who is a Trump ally and donor. His name is JJ Kafero, JJ Caferro Trust is where this no bid contract went. So Robes, that's another problem. You didn't ask around. This was taxpayer money. Told us originally there's going to cost a million to two million, but when it done so quickly, costs US fourteen And now we got to do some more work and now this is adding up, and now that just adds to Robes. Everything is just chaos. This Ministry.

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Speaker 2: There are a lot of questions, and the President is incredibly adept at deflecting, and so he's now pointing the finger at everyone else. And I dare anyone to ask him about this, this one on top of all the other issues. But look, this reflecting pool controversy is his own making, his own doing, his own comparing. And now he realizes, oh wow, maybe it wasn't the fact that everyone else just didn't know what to do. It may be that this is just hard to do, hard or impossible to do.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps this is not one rose. But people have given him a hard time and coming after him, and he can do no right or ease. He made this the biggest deal in the world.

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Speaker 2: He did, absolutely did.

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Speaker 1: So we sit here on the twenty first, we're how far from two weeks from the fourth of July? Yes, so what that? What is that pool going to look like? This is now becoming a two hundred and fiftieth embarrassment circus. The artists now it's a Trump rally. Milli Vanilli doesn't even want to show up. Now this reflecting pool is going to beat Robes. This is going to be the story, the rally, the pool on the two hundred and fiftieth, which we should be talking about so much other stuff.

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Speaker 2: It's sad, it really is. Can we just before we leave. I love that you found this out.

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Speaker 1: I put that in there for you, baby, because I wanted to end on a happy note. You would like it.

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Speaker 2: This is my favorite part of the whole story. So this contract or this no bid contract that President Trump gave to his ally and his friend Jjcafaro, Well, the name of J. J. Kafaro's company, green Water.

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Speaker 1: Services, can't this is the best story ever.

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Speaker 2: You cannot make that up.

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Speaker 1: Can't make the story.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that should have been a red flag that the name of the company that was supposed to make the reflecting pool American Flag blue had green in its name.

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Speaker 1: That's a written water.

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Speaker 2: In its name. They lived up to their names.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, red flag that a company called Greenwater can't give you crystal blue water. We learned our lessons on that. This is this story is amazing and look, I'm laughing a lot of people take other issues with it, but roll this is one of the lighter ones, I suppose. But if people start getting arrested just for looking at the pool wrong, then that's gonna be a problem. What are they going to do next? They're going to block it off and you can't even get close to it. Won't that be the next I.

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Speaker 2: Was wondering if surveillance cameras could get put up twenty four to seven. I mean, that would be.

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Speaker 1: The national mall. Don't they have eyes?

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Speaker 2: Right? That's what I would think that. How could there not be So if they really did have people in the middle of the night coming out with whatever, box cutters and pocket knives, then let's let's see that video and let's arrest those people. That absolutely is every American would support that.

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Speaker 1: I would love for that pool to be crystal blue. Absolutely, I would support that.

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Speaker 2: I would love to see it.

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Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Gray, this story is just it won't go away. But folks will keep an eye on this one. It will be. They are they're going to have to drain it. I suppose they are.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that is what the course of action is. Now to drain the pool, then you have to what then they have to repair it? Then they have to They can't tear it. I think they have to. Did you see how awesome it's bad? It looks terrible.

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Speaker 1: What if you have to leave it empty for the two hundred and fifteen.

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Speaker 2: No, that will not happen.

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Speaker 1: So algae instead of empty.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think the whole idea is I you know what, I don't know, but this is going to be his number one priority. You know it is. He's been obsessed with it all right. We will, of course keep our eye on it, as you pointed out, so any updates you'll find them here. In the meantime, though, thank you everyone for listening to us. I made me roback alongside t. J.

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Speaker 1: Holmes.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to you soon.