Ambassador To Greece, Kimberly Guilfoyle Exposed Trying To Peddle Trump Administration Access For Money

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Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Thursday, October 8th. And if I told you that members of President Trump's inner circle were trading favors for cash, you probably wouldn't necessarily be surprised.

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Speaker 2: But Jesus, Ambassador Guilfoyle. And with that, welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ Robes. Is it surprising? This report that our ambassador to Greece... was at one point promising to give people access to the president and resources in trade for cash. That's not surprising, is it?

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Speaker 3: It's not surprising, but it's massively disappointing and, frankly, disgusting. Yes, we know.

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Speaker 1: We know this happens.

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Speaker 3: We know the real currency in D.C. is leverage money. And access and power. And yes, the exchange for that usually comes with a price tag. But isn't it illegal to leverage your position and your access to government officials to win favor for things like, I don't know, tax issues, legal issues, in exchange for massive amounts of money? And especially when you've literally got a paper trail detailing... said transactions or would be transactions.

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Speaker 1: I don't know this is it's still maybe jaw-dropping to read it you know this happens you know it happens every single day who know on much bigger levels you could even argue this is some embarrassing stuff if it happened if you haven't read this yet it's coming to us from the washington post and kimberly guilfoyle's name is everywhere she of course wrote as the I didn't know the right way to say it. She's the former daughter-in-law-to-be of President Trump, right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, she was the former fiancé to Donald Trump Jr. She's also the ex-wife, this is fascinating, of Governor Gavin Newsom.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she was married when I was living in the Bay Area, NBC. He was the mayor of San Francisco. She was the first lady of San Francisco.

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Speaker 3: All right. And so, yes, those are two pretty interesting political connections that she has.

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Speaker 1: The Democrat and Republican.

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Speaker 3: Well, she could be the bridge between President Trump and wannabe President Newsom.

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Speaker 1: She is burning some bridges. He already sent her to Greece.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if all it takes is me burning a bridge to get an ambassadorship to Greece, give me the lighter and tell me which bridge. I mean, that's not a bad punishment.

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Speaker 1: But it felt like she was being exiled to Siberia almost when she broke up with Donald Trump Jr. All of a sudden she's out of the inner circle and he sends her off to Greece. She gets an ambassadorship.

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Speaker 3: Right at about the same time we see Donald Trump Jr. 's new... gorgeous, younger, blonder, now wife. Yeah, that's funny how the timing all worked out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so she goes off. Okay, she's been doing her thing. We haven't seen her much, to be frank.

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Speaker 3: I think that was the point, to not see her very much, to keep her happy, and to not have her talking. So I think they thought they solved a problem, or a potential problem, if she was upset about being broken up with by Donald Trump Jr.

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Speaker 1: That's true, and there were also, reporting by the Washington Post, and this was out there at the time, but the president was getting fed up with her. She was kind of using her position in the inner circle. For her own benefit. President didn't necessarily like that, including plucking off people from his club down in Florida. He didn't like that.

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Speaker 3: Apparently, she was turning what he thought was maybe just a dinner and maybe even a fundraiser for him into her own personal investment building dinner, where she was actually trying to raise funds for her own. She had a vodka business or some other. She had some entrepreneurial... Ventures that she wanted to get funded. And so he the claim was the report was that she was using her access to his folks, his deep pocketed folks to fund her own business ventures. And he just wanted her gone.

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Speaker 1: That plus the breakup. Get her out of here. Send her over to Greece. OK, fine. This Washington Post story now details her relationship with a man named Eric Dieters. We'll explain who he is in a moment. But Robes in particular, the headline is about her not just asking, maybe not just even pleading, but almost begging for $ 100, 000 to pay off of all things her credit card. And she had reason to need it done immediately.

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Speaker 3: She needed her Amex paid off. By the way, have you ever known anyone to have a $ 100, 000 Amex bill?

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Speaker 1: Hey, they roll different. They roll, they roll. They're not like us. They're not like us.

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Speaker 3: That is jaw-dropping. Well, apparently she is like us, or like a lot of people, she charges things that she doesn't have the money to pay for. So, yes, this is how she was so desperate to have... some way to pay off this massive bill that apparently she charged more than she had. And so I believe the line was, honey, please, I need you to get this done for me today. That's the line or the headline that seems to be just about everywhere where, yeah, she seems to be begging this man for $ 100, 000.

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Speaker 1: And who is this man? This man is a political donor. He's a lawyer out of Kentucky, was also a businessman, but he's an influential guy and a politician. He did run for Office there a couple times in Kentucky, lost both times with a big-time Republican donor. Now, through his business dealings or whatever, Robes, he ran into some tax issues and some legal issues. So, he knows Kimberly Guilfoyle, so he's going to try to, and she offers, Robes, offers her influence on his issues. He offers her a million dollars if she can get him results on his issues.

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Speaker 3: That seems wildly illegal. And this was before, before her confirmation hearing, correct? All of this took place allegedly before she officially took on the role as U.S. Ambassador to Greece.

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Speaker 1: 100% and 100K we're talking about. She needed that immediately because she needed it paid off before her confirmation hearings for whatever reason.

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Speaker 3: I'm curious. So as long as you are exchanging money for access, as long as you are not yet an official employee of the government, is it illegal?

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Speaker 1: That's a good point. That's a good point. Yeah, she did this all, of course, before. She wouldn't have been doing it after. Obviously, that would have been wildly illegal. But can you do this? Do me this favor, I'll do you this favor. If that favor involves money... Fine. But yes, she seemed to be in their robes, according to some of these text messages we're going to let you hear. She seemed to be really selling herself and selling her access to that inner circle.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. One of the weird ones was like, I kind of understand him wanting her to put him in touch with the new head of the IRS. Okay. Or the DOJ. All of those things make a lot of sense. but apparently he offered her a million dollars to get him on Tucker Carlson's podcast. Wow, that's a hell of a podcast.

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Speaker 1: We beg people. We offer people money to come on and they still won't.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's a wild, wild concept. So much so that Tucker Carlson himself even weighed in on it when he found out that this actually apparently occurred. I believe his quote is, a million dollars for a podcast appearance? Isn't she the ambassador to Greece? This is completely nuts. And he wanted it to be known. He made it very clear, Tucker Carlson, that Kimberly Goldfoyle has no sway whatsoever No influence whatsoever on who he decides is a guest on his podcast. And by the way, Dieter was never a guest on his podcast.

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Speaker 1: And look, Washington Post has screen graphs of text messages that show all this going on. And yes, Kimberly Guilfoyle apparently reached out to somebody in Tucker Carlson's orbit or works for him or whatever, and it went absolutely nowhere. So that's another thing she's promising to this guy. I'll say his name again. Eric Dieters. And he gets nothing. Now, more things, and you're already over there giggling, Robes. I don't know who this guy... I don't know what his thing, his deal is, but.

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Speaker 3: He's a gentleman lawyer who has some side hobbies.

00:09:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, is it bass guitar or just guitar? He's a guitarist, right? Yeah, he's a.

00:09:04
Speaker 3: Guitarist, apparently. And he wanted Kimberly Guilfoyle to get his song lyrics to Kid Rock.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean.

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Speaker 1: That never happened either, I don't think. She also promised that she would lobby Kash Patel himself and Pam Bondi, the Attorney General of the United States. She is promising some guy in Kentucky that none of us know to get him in, and she's going to pocket possibly a million dollars for some of this stuff?

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Speaker 3: You know, this story... Look, I understand why it's not shocking in a sense that we all understand, generally speaking, that this kind of stuff goes on. But to actually get specifics and details about what is actually going on, it's disturbing because I guess maybe we can kind of distance ourselves from it and just understand generally there's an idea that this crap goes on. I think to actually see it happening, in real time or at least recently and recognize who the players are, what was being offered, the money that was being offered, it's still hard to believe, actually. I know I feel naive saying that out loud. I intellectually understand all of this, But to see it all laid out like this, it is still shocking, frankly.

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Speaker 1: It's shocking that she would entertain something like this.

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Speaker 3: Why would she risk her entire reputation and any... And she even talks, we'll get into the text messages, about being concerned about losing her ambassadorship. She understands that this is a huge honor. And this is a woman who claimed that she needed money. I mean, she has expensive taste, we can see by the MX bill. But look, I was reading she got millions and millions of dollars where Donald Trump Jr. bought her out of this home they owned. So how much money does she need? How much money is she spending?

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Speaker 1: Look, the reports, again, the Washington Post reporting that she told plenty of people around her that she needed money. She needed to make some money before she left for Greece. Who knows what her situation is?

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Speaker 3: That is a dangerous thing to understand or to just get your head around the fact that a government official or someone who is employed by the United States of America, paid for by the tax dollars and representing our country in a foreign country, is telling people that she's desperate for money. That is the recipe for corruption and disaster.

00:11:30
Speaker 1: Okay, when you put it that way. when you put it that way.

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Speaker 3: And what does she have to peddle?

00:11:35
Speaker 1: Power.

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Speaker 3: That is absolutely terrifying.

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing, babe. She dangled it out there, but she never delivered with this guy, Dieter, and he seemed to feel like he was being punked. We'll share some of these text messages. You already mentioned here the big one that's in a lot of the headlines, where she says to him, Honey, please, I need you to get this done for me today. You could just send it here. It included a PDF. with instructions for how you can wire money to amex and she said this was the way to do it the way it couldn't be traced if you do.

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Speaker 3: It that way i mean if you have to send a message to say this is how you can send me money and it won't be traced you should probably not send that message and maybe rethink everything you're doing it is kind.

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Speaker 1: Of remarkable so they text some of this stuff it's wild.

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Speaker 3: And she even said, it won't show up anywhere if you wire money to American Express. Please. That's the begging part. She went dot, dot, dot, please. Like she is begging this man to send a wire to American Express to pay her $ 100, 000 credit card bill. I wonder at the time if she could have even imagined that these text messages were going to be splashed all over worldwide headlines. This isn't just America. She's in Greece. You know these headlines are all over Greece. They're everywhere. Obviously, Marco Rubio was just there with her. So the spotlight was even on her more so than ever this week. She's got to be under a rock right now. And frankly, she should be.

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Speaker 1: And we will share her response, her attorney's response to some of this. And they actually do, Rose, will share as well. They have an explanation for the hundred thousand that you need to hear. We continue with some of the text messages. Here's a doozy. She says to him, every secretary of, you know, defense, transportation, treasury, commerce, IRS commissioner, everyone gets right back to me. Oh yeah, I'm forgetting Kash Patel. She's She's actually putting herself in a position to make it sound like she has more power maybe than she does.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is humiliating. This is humiliating. Yeah, I know people. I got you. And then she doesn't actually get anything for him. She also texted Eric. I really wish you would stop papering all these things. It's really dangerous and not helpful to you or me. That's one of the most damning texts of them all because it shows that she knows what she's doing is wrong and potentially illegal. I still wonder and question if criminal charges could be brought against her.

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Speaker 1: I wonder. Money didn't exchange, apparently, well, at least at the $ 100K.

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Speaker 3: Didn't he give her $ 300, 000, though? He did.

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Speaker 1: He absolutely did. That was prior to this for various things. Yeah.

00:14:25
Speaker 3: Consulting. I believe something like that. That's legit. That's one of my favorites. Consulting. Okay. What is that exactly?

00:14:32
Speaker 1: Continue with the text messages. Eric, I really... The papering things. Oops.

00:14:36
Speaker 3: Next.

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Speaker 1: What a nightmare. You'll literally cost me my ambassadorship. Stop writing.

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Speaker 3: Another damning text.

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Speaker 1: That's a guilty person talking.

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Speaker 3: Yes. What a nightmare. You'll literally cost me my ambassadorship.

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Speaker 1: And this next one's from... Oh, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: I was going to say, is it going to cost her her ambassadorship?

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Speaker 1: Robes, the president, wouldn't you say, has shown a fairly short patience, or maybe he did have longer patience, but he finally ran out with her. Robes, this is embarrassing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would think he's going to have to do something. Yes, this last text.

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Speaker 1: From him.

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Speaker 3: You're needing 100,000 urgent, unfortunately, is not going to work. I can't do this without getting a divorce. So yeah, he told her, no, my wife will kill me if I give you $ 100, 000.

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Speaker 1: Now he did, Robes, he did send her another message. And you talked about the $ 300, 000, a memo that he had written out and sent her. And Robes, this sounds like he's finally fed up. And in all the exchanges and everything we see in the Washington Post report, I don't think they report anything that he actually got out of the relationship and got out of what appears to be six figures that he at some point gave.

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Speaker 3: Yes. So his memo to her, I have paid you $ 300, 000 over the years. As of this memo, I have not received one favor. I am not naive or a sucker. I need results. And look, this is dangerous. When you have somebody who is representing the United States actually being threatened right there, I need results. I've given you this money. What have I gotten out of it? That sounds like a threat. Now you've got a U.S. government employee being threatened by somebody who she's put herself in a position to be threatened by because she has offered something that she apparently couldn't deliver. I don't know if it saves her from any criminal charges because right there, clear as day, he points out that she hasn't given or done a favor for him. So maybe that actually helps her case from a criminal standpoint. But I also think there's some, there's a major issue here with someone putting themselves in this type of position who represents our country.

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Speaker 1: And Robes, this even is, whatever, it's more humiliating that she seems like a swindler. Like, it's one thing if you made the trade and you were delivering and collecting cash. It's like she's peddling it and not even paying it through. It seems like she's some charlatan out there selling what she doesn't even have to offer. That is just tough. But she did have a response through her attorney. We'll share that with you. We'll also tell you what the U.S. Embassy had to say and stay here. We'll also tell you why some Democrats have already before this wanted her investigated.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, everyone, to Amy and TJ. This has got to be, I would think, the most difficult day of Kimberly Guilfoyle's life to have all of these headlines, all of these text messages and memos and details for everyone to see and read. Apparently, yeah, she was peddling power she didn't have to a Trump donor who seemed to be pretty upset with the fact that he had already given her six figures, $ 300, 000, and for absolutely nothing. Yeah, this is tough, but it's interesting because Marco Rubio, Secretary of State Marco Rubio, was literally at the Acropolis on Wednesday, correct? And she was standing there by his side right as the story is breaking. And so, of course, he's being asked about this. And I thought his remark to the press was interesting. He said, you guys walk around thinking that because some source told you something and you reported it, it's the gospel. It's not the gospel. It's not the gospel for me. That's not the way we do things. And then he went on and said, suffice it to say, our embassy here is doing a great job. Our ambassador has been a strong ambassador here. And she was right there. looking on as he said those things. Now, did he see the screen grabs? Did he see the text messages? I'm thinking he did not. Someone should have prepped him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think they came out Wednesday night. When did they come out?

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Speaker 3: It came out just around the time where reporters were able.

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Speaker 1: To ask him about it. When the event, he was leaving?

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Speaker 3: Yes, he was leaving Greece when he was peppered with these questions. And, you know, maybe he didn't fully know.

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Speaker 1: I do wonder. The president's going to have to be asked about this. And I do wonder what his response is going to be.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we did hear from the U.S. embassy. They put out a statement. And again, they seem to be supporting her right now. They said Guilfoyle's career in and out of public service is guided by deep and abiding values. She was fully vetted by the bipartisan Senate Foreign Relations Committee and confirmed by the U.S. Senate. The ambassador remains committed to representing the American people with dedication and integrity. That's a tough thing for, I think, many of us to hear and read given what we've seen directly. from her.

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Speaker 1: What do you not see in that statement?

00:19:55
Speaker 3: A denial.

00:19:56
Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

00:20:01
Speaker 1: That's it for me. I'm done. I get it. That's fine. Ropes, what are they talking about here?

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Speaker 3: But don't talk about integrity. if you've got text messages like this, that there is no integrity in those messages. Come on. And also just honestly underlining the fact that she's representing our country. I think a lot of us should take issue with that. Certainly Democrats are taking issue with that.

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Speaker 1: Uh, yes, because a couple on the foreign, uh, foreign affairs committee, I believe it is. They've been asking for an investigation into her anyway. I think in particular one, it was a lobbyist. She was given some pretty good access to, um, And it raised questions. Robes, a lot of questions have been around her using her office or allowing access in some kind of way to benefit herself, benefit things that she has investments in or interest in, her businesses. This has been kind of a cloud around her for a while. She hasn't been found guilty of anything, Robes, but people have been... sniffing around this for a while.

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Speaker 3: The Washington Post article is not the first one. The Wall Street Journal is the one, is the outlet that reported, I believe it was last month, that Guilfoyle at a reception there in Greece told guests that the U.S. could undermine the Greek government if it chose to and was also promoting business interests of some Greek businessman who was a construction and energy company. And so, look, there are all sorts of accusations of her. Once again, it would be on point with these text messages. It would be on brand, I should say, that she is using her power in ways that she shouldn't, period.

00:21:43
Speaker 1: You buy her logic or her reasoning for why that $ 100, 000 was on her credit card?

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Speaker 3: Look, no is the answer, is the short answer, but we can give you her exact response through her attorney. This is what the response was. Kimberly Guilfoyle did speaking engagements and was owed a balance for traveling to and supporting these patriotic events. I guess they were private planes each way.

00:22:13
Speaker 1: For the $ 300, 000? Perhaps.

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Speaker 3: Dieter.

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Speaker 1: Chimed in. They talked to him for this article, by the way, this man, Eric Dieters. He said, that's total BS. Obviously, he didn't owe her any balance for any traveling to and supporting any patriotic event. Whatever this 100K was on her credit card, he didn't know what it was. It had nothing to do with it. She just wanted it paid off. This is one of those weird, both of those statements didn't have to say anything. Rose, that statement, the first thing, these aren't the same type of cases, but the first thing I thought about was the first Statement that came out from Jim Thornton from Wheel of Fortune with allegations that he was in some pedophile website. You remember that first statement that they say, well, he sent him a link. He usually does some stuff with a suicide link. And then he clicked on the wrong thing and it sent him to that thing. And you remember how stupid that sounds?

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Speaker 3: He accidentally stayed on a pedophile chat room for 54 minutes. Yes.

00:23:09
Speaker 1: Yes. Click the wrong link. This is all this was. How stupid that was.

00:23:15
Speaker 3: And how stupid do they think we are?

00:23:16
Speaker 1: It was that thing. This, you didn't have to say this. Oh, yeah, that was a balance she was owed back. 100K because she put it on her own card. And she was owed that money back. Okay, maybe that's the truth.

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Speaker 3: If she's owed that money back, she should certainly take him to court then. Because if this was money due, a balance due, oh, how about when she had him write the reasons why he was paying her the 300K? Like she was instructing him. Forgot about that. She was instructing Dieter to explain why he was paying her. And she gave him the reasons why. Look, this is not above board. Period. Is it illegal? I think it should be, but I don't know. I don't know what the rules are. It's certainly unseemly, and it's certainly unethical.

00:24:06
Speaker 1: And as of right now, they are saying she did nothing wrong. Her side is saying this was for travel, and she was owed this money back as reimbursement for putting something on her own card and being at these events. So that's her story. She's sticking to it. I think we're going to hear more, and I can't wait to hear the president's response to this. How much is he going to defend her?

00:24:31
Speaker 3: We shall see. It depends on how much she knows. I really do think that. She was a close part of the Trump family. And I do think for him, look, normally if your son breaks up with his fiancée, you're not giving her parting gifts, right? I mean, maybe he really did like her and they had a really good relationship and that's all possible. But there is also the possibility that he just wanted to keep her happy and keep her quiet. We shall see.

00:24:59
Speaker 1: All right, folks. We appreciate you as always. I'm TJ. That's Rogues. We'll talk to y'all soon.