Aug. 7, 2026
Amanda Knox’s Upcoming One Woman Comedy Show, Outrages Murder Victim’s Family, Calling For Its Cancellation
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RSS Feed The woman who spent 4 years in an Italian prison before her murder conviction was overturned, is now about to star in a one woman comedy show at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival. Amanda Knox describes “Cartwheel” as a show about “juggling motherhood and finally getting around to being furious about the whole wrongful-imprisonment thing.” Friends and family of murder victim and former roommate of Knox, Meredith Kercher, say the comedy show trivializes violence against women and mocks the horrific events surrounding Kercher’s murder. They are asking for it to be canceled, but Knox has a pointed response to her detractors.
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Speaker 1: Hey, that folks, it is Friday, August seventh. Then did you know that Amanda Knox has her own one woman show and it's a comedy with that Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. It's a comedy. And if you're a little confused, the family of the woman who was murdered in that whole saga ain't laughing at all. Rops, this is a little bizarre. She's free to do what she wants, but this was interesting to hear that this is what Amanda Knox has been up to.
00:00:44
Speaker 2: Look Bizarre is a good word to use, because anyone who has followed this story from its inception, which is back when she was falsely imprisoned for the murder of her roommate, Meredith Kircher back in two thousand and seven. But the name of the comedy show reflects some of the bizarre behavior she was accused of initially, which led to a lot of people believe her arrest doing that cartwheel in the hours after her murder. Her friend was.
00:01:14
Speaker 1: Murdered, her roommate was murdered. Actually, oh, absolutely, we talked about it.
00:01:17
Speaker 2: Had nauseum on the on at least where I think I was at the Today Show at the time, and it was a big deal because how strange you've got your roommate has been viciously murdered in your home and police are there, and it's shocking and it's scary, and what do you do? You you do a cartwheel while you're while the police are It was just, well, you're being you're being questioned, your boyfriend's being questioned, and it just seemed like a strange thing to do. She described it later. I believe is just a release basically, but still it was something that actually a lot of folks pointed to as part of her behavior that led to her arrest and ultimately her conviction, because she wasn't behaved being the way people expected someone to behave when their roommate's just been murdered.
00:02:05
Speaker 1: Well, the show is called Cartwells, she says, a play or a reference to that story, which was just a reported story, a rumor, something came out of the Italian police station at the time.
00:02:16
Speaker 2: Heart Wheel.
00:02:17
Speaker 1: That's what the claim is, and that's why she's able to make a play on that infamous story. But yes, it's called Cartwheel's and she is performing this one woman comedy show in Scotland. There's a festival going on there. But the family of the victim robes, and I guess I can understand that to a certain degree. I don't even I don't know if you're doing a one woman show about your ordeal. It's her story. She can tell her story. She has a right to it. I don't know. I haven't seen the show. I don't know if it's im poor taste or not. But initially it sounds a little uncomfortable to be making light of what she went through. But what she went through was something that came about because of the murder of somebody, and so it's I don't know, this is I don't know. We're gonn let you hear what the family is actually saying. But and there's a petition out there this morning to get the show shut down. But just the initial reaction to it robes. It seems like an odd choice. I don't want to condemn her for it, but it just seems odd, you know what.
00:03:16
Speaker 2: I can't imagine what and how she has processed everything. Look she went through, and not to minimize what Meredith Kircher's family has gone through and will continue to live with for the rest of their life, the loss and the vicious murder of their loved one. But I do think that Amanda Knox has had her own version of trauma and this is how she is trying to deal with it express it. And while I totally understand why Meredith's family is upset and outraged, I also understand maybe why Amanda Knox needs a creative outlet for what she's been through, and both sides can have a point. And you know, I don't even know how I feel about it because we haven't it, and that was part of what Amanda Knox and we'll get into her reaction to Meredith's family's reaction, but her bigger point is you haven't seen it. You don't know what it is. You don't know what I'm saying, you don't know what I'm doing. And she's insisting that she is actually honoring Meredith. So I just think before everybody gets up in arms and tries to cancel folks and say you can't put this on look, I do think that Amanda Knox has a story to tell, and I know she's written a book and she's there have been plenty of made for TV movies and all sorts of entertainment that has arisen from this horrific real life tragedy. But don't we see that in most cases as well, where look, a lot of crimes, given enough time even become a source of entertainment for a lot of people.
00:04:44
Speaker 1: And I could see at this point, I guess it's yes, it's been a while, bro, but I'm sure it's still for I mean, well, it never goes to was twenty nineteen twenty at the time, so she still would have been a pretty young woman at this point. But the show is described kark Will is described this way. Amanda Knox is approaching forty, juggling motherhood and finally getting around to being furious about the whole wrongful imprisonment thing, especially when half the world is telling her to get over it while the other half still thinks she's guilty. How on earth will she explain it all to her daughter, who is now asking to hear the story. Mama goes to Italy and she can protect her from well everything during her own mother couldn't protect her no matter how hard she tried. That's the description that they do lay out, And it's just her up there, and that's supposed to be it. She's telling this story of what happened to her trip to Italy to her daughter, and she goes about telling it in some comedic way. That's the pitch how to I mean, I frankly sounds kind of clever way to go about it.
00:05:50
Speaker 2: Yes, And I do think, look, oftentimes we deal with tragedy, we deal with really hard topics through humor. I mean, it does help in the healing process for some, but I can understand how it's a rub to others that it makes perfect sense that Amanda Knox would take this approach, I think in a lot of ways, because it's so awful what happened to her and the time in years she lost of her life, and as she points out in that description, part of the rest of her life has been taken from her in a lot of ways, because there are still so many people out there who believe she did commit that murder, that she is guilty of viciously violently stabbing her roommate for some bizarre sn m. I think that was the Italian prosecutor's narrative, that she was what was it, foxy Noxy, that she was into some deviant sexual behavior. There were drugs and things got out of hand.
00:06:49
Speaker 1: That's tough.
00:06:50
Speaker 2: You don't ever fully shake that. And so she's trying to take back a narrative and making at least giving at least a comedic through line to us.
00:07:00
Speaker 1: All of that. And again that was her and her reminder. Her and her boyfriend were convicted. They did spend time in prison. I believe she ended up with four years. They were Eventually those were thrown out and somebody else was convicted of those murders has served his time. The case is closed, the case is done. However, this still wrote she was the only one for a long time, she was the only person that we were associating with the murder. She was the only suspect they were talking about. And yes, young white girl doesn't look like she's some vicious murderer. Yes, this was an international phenomenon of a story. So here she is, all these years later. If you don't know, and you probably do, she has been out there. She's been an advocate for people wrongly convicted. She's told her story. She's told it, and what Network had her story as one of the streamers. It was a big whoopie do. Monica Lewinsky helped produce that thing. Right, She's been out there, she's been active, So this isn't necessarily a surprise that she would choose, like you said, a creative outlet to do something, but had no idea she was doing this. So what does the sister say. She did a sit down interview with BBC. I do believe, and this is how she put it. It very much normalizes and trivializes violenced against women, and Meredith in particular. That wasn't my first thought, but she is making a point there. We will let you hear more of what she said, but I guess the point there were OBEs is you're you're making light of something. It was a man who killed, who was convicted of killing. You're making light trivializing as a is the word.
00:08:35
Speaker 2: She used, trivializing violence against women. I look, and I just I understand where she's coming from. I understand her anger and her pain and being very frustrated and outraged by this one woman comedic act. But again, none of us know what's what the script is, what a man an Ox is going to do or say when she takes that stage. And look, look there was a petition going around and I say, you've just updated the signatures because this morning earlier I think, or the last article I saw it was six thousand signatures. It's now up to eighty two o seven.
00:09:11
Speaker 1: Look at it right now as of this recording.
00:09:14
Speaker 2: And the petition is on change dot org and anyone can read it, but we can read part of it for you, because this is exactly basically this is coming a friend from a friend who created this petition. So she writes, I met Meredith Kircher years ago when she worked with me saving money for her gap year trip to Perusia. During that time, I became friends with her sister, Steph. Meredith was bright, full of dreams, and had a life filled with promise ahead of her. Tragically, in two thousand and seven, her life was brutally cut short. The rape and murder of Meredith devastated her family left a scar that will never fully hear A heel excuse me. Sadly, their pain was compounded when their mother's succumb to co nineteen and their father was killed in a tragic hit and run accident. I had no idea that those two events occurred. Recently, I learned about a stage performance titled Cartwheel, said to be showcased at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival. The show mocks the horrific events surrounding Meredith's murder and aims to somehow turn this tragedy into entertainment. Meredith's surviving siblings have bravely spoken out against this production, labeling it as absurd and a gross trivialization of their sister's death. The show not only disrespects Meredith's memory, but it also risks normalizing violence against women by making light of such a harrowing event. And then they go on to talk about the Edinburgh Fringehip Festival. How yes it freedom comes with responsibility. So they say, yes, we understand artistic expression, but they also need to value empathy and respect. They want Cartwheel to be canceled. They say the performance cart Will must be canceled not only out of respect for Meredith's family, but as a stand against the normalization of violence against women in popular culture.
00:11:11
Speaker 1: I don't know what we do or robes. I'm this is one of those that maybe I say that from my seat. I've never been wrongfully convicted of murder in a foreign country and then been exonerated. So she went through a hell and continues to a certain degree to go through some kind of hell in public. So I don't know how to it's even before seeing it, even if it's a hilarious show from start to finish, I don't know how to go about necessarily criticizing or condemning because I haven't walked in her shoes, Robes. And yes, there was a horrific murder, but that was also could argue this horrific injustice. She experienced something too, and she has a story to tell and she's telling it in that respect, Robes. I can't imagine her mocking in some way the death.
00:12:05
Speaker 2: No, I can't imagine that either. And if she did, then of course yes something should be said. But look, when you hear Amanda Knox's Instagram response to this petition, I do think it puts it into perspective because she does defend the show and talks about the petition to cancel, and she says Cartwheel is a show about motherhood, raising a daughter in a world that is unfair and dangerous for women, and what it costs to be the kind of mother who tells her the truth about that. Neither the author of this petition, nor anyone who signed it has seen Cartwheel. The petition contains many false assumptions and completely mischaracterizes the show. Cartwheel honors Meredith Kircher's memory and calls out the violence that was done to her and to me. A petition to cancel the show no one has seen on the grounds of false accusation intended to shame and vilify a wronged woman into silence is not an argument against Cartwheel. It's a fairly precise description of what Cartwheel is about and why it deserves to exist. And she says the Edinburgh Fringe is the perfect place for a show like this, and she talks about how that particular film festival uses comedy as a way to explore difficult subjects like grief, trauma, mental health, addiction, illness, identity politics. So she's saying, this is the perfect place for a show like this, and everyone, hold up, hold off your judgments and hold off your accusations until you see what I'm going to put on the stage.
00:13:40
Speaker 1: I don't know what to judge. I mean, I really don't. I mean nothing you do in a comedy show about your experience. I don't have a next thing some people. And it's fair if you say it's in poor taste. It shouldn't be done, or you shouldn't be seen to even profit. But it's her story. She's been profiting from it, she's written books about it and whatnot.
00:13:58
Speaker 2: It's and she paid dearly for And.
00:14:00
Speaker 1: So I don't know, Robes, I'm and it is and I am not at all going to get close to criticizing anyone for that. Loved Meredith to hear about this and not immediately react and be pissed by no judgment in that. But it's a healthy enough debate, Robes, And I think it's getting attention for the show. Maybe it will change. I mean, we are talking right now, as she put it, and that was the best line in there. You actually are talking about silence and a woman from telling her story. That lends this the problem.
00:14:37
Speaker 2: And she was another victim in this horrific tragedy.
00:14:40
Speaker 1: Yes, in this No, we don't need to do any comparative suffering. Someone died. We know that was the worst suffering, but there is a there's still a living victim of that whole situation. I don't know. I'm curious to see the show. I don't know how much bigger it's going to get. This could just be a one off. This festival has been around for fifty or something years. I didn't know about it, but it is and artsy type and this is they invite folks like this who are up and coming. I have story to tells. And it goes for a couple of three weeks.
00:15:07
Speaker 2: Three weeks, I would imagine they're going to have sold out shows, especially after this back and forth.
00:15:13
Speaker 1: I looked for them. There's no tickets available. I did I there are non available. It's not like a huge venue. It's not selling out a ten thousand seed stadium, but still there are no tickets available. But stay here. We do want you to hear precisely what Stephanie Mercher said the sister of the victim, and you know what both sides robes. I think you'll agree in how they're talking about it. They come off sincerely, they should be listened to, and they don't sound like they're attacking each other. So we'll let you hear from the sister of the victim and see if that changes your mind one way or another.
00:15:51
Speaker 2: Stare Welcome back everyone to Amy and TJ. We are talking about Cartwheel. It is a new one woman comedic show Amanda Knox has written, produced and is storing in it and it's going to be taking place at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival a three week and we just learned a sold out show. And look, she's exploring what she went through, her difficulties, explaining it as a mother to her daughter, and she's doing it through a comedic telling of her experience and that has obviously I mean, I say obviously, but it's understandably upset the victim in this case, Meredith Kircher, or at least the murder victim in this case, and her sister is speaking out about her feelings on Amanda Knox's decision to put this show together.
00:16:54
Speaker 1: And even in doing sol robe she pointed out if the presenter it was a British now saying that the prisoner, what the hell? The journalist, oh yeah. It was actually pointing out to the sister, you don't talk, you haven't been talking, and was asking like why on this one? And she did. She come through and kind of explained this is different, this was worth speaking up and speaking out about. She said it calmly, she was an emotional and whatnot, and was very sweet lady in what she was describing, but this is where she's coming from, she said, quote Amanda is naturally free to continue with her life as she wishes. But I think the problem with this particular project is that it is comedy. While I appreciate comedy is here to push the boundary, it very much normalizes trivializes violence against women, and Meredith in particular. I think in this case, it's a position where it's not a generic topic. It's targeting an individual trauma and an individual person and family. I feel very strongly that Meredith would agree with that. She I don't think anything unreasonable is in there.
00:17:54
Speaker 2: No, not at all, and she went on to say it's not about whether people think she's guilty or innocent. If someone else was doing the show specifically against Meredith, I would still feel the same. It is obviously an added wound that it's coming from her at the same time, but I do feel very strongly that it should be something that's not given a platform in the past. Rightfully, so we've maintained silence and we wanted to preserve Meredith's memory. Amanda has put herself back in the public eye. This particular project is around comedy and when you're broaching that subject in a comedy, there needs to be an essence of responsibility there, and she says, this is giving a platform to something that affects more than just my family and Meredith. It affects a lot of people out there, and it shouldn't be given a platform that specific topic. Look, Amanda, she's arguing, is put herself back in the public eye. And yes, I understand where she's coming from creating a show around this, but I would imagine being Amanda Knox. It's hard not to always be a public spectacle with her name, her likeness, everyone not like it's kind of like it's funny you mentioned Monica Lewinsky. I feel like in a similar way, those are names that are always and forever going to be associated with something incredibly painful and negative, and it's hard to escape it. So if you embrace it, if you acknowledge it, if you find a way to turn it into something good, make your mess, your message, et cetera. I can understand she's it's not as if she just can go live a private life and no one would be whispering and talking. It's I'm sure a very difficult balance to strike.
00:19:27
Speaker 1: However, she wants to strike it. I have no problem with whatever however she wants to go about it. And she should be commended to a certain degree for not going away and hiding, for being an advocate for folks who are wrongly convicted. But me, yes, she's making a choice to go do a public show. Absolutely knock yourself out.
00:19:45
Speaker 2: It might be part of her healing, part of her therapy. And look, no one has to go see this if they don't want to. It's being done on a stage. It's not being broadcast for millions to watch. But I will be interested in hearing the reviews, hearing what it is that she does put on on that stage.
00:20:03
Speaker 1: I would watch and if it comes to Broadway, sign me up.
00:20:09
Speaker 2: Alright. And with that, everyone, we always appreciate listening to us. I'm made me Roeboch alongside TJ. Holmes.
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Speaker 1: We'll talk sim
Speaker 1: Hey, that folks, it is Friday, August seventh. Then did you know that Amanda Knox has her own one woman show and it's a comedy with that Welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. It's a comedy. And if you're a little confused, the family of the woman who was murdered in that whole saga ain't laughing at all. Rops, this is a little bizarre. She's free to do what she wants, but this was interesting to hear that this is what Amanda Knox has been up to.
00:00:44
Speaker 2: Look Bizarre is a good word to use, because anyone who has followed this story from its inception, which is back when she was falsely imprisoned for the murder of her roommate, Meredith Kircher back in two thousand and seven. But the name of the comedy show reflects some of the bizarre behavior she was accused of initially, which led to a lot of people believe her arrest doing that cartwheel in the hours after her murder. Her friend was.
00:01:14
Speaker 1: Murdered, her roommate was murdered. Actually, oh, absolutely, we talked about it.
00:01:17
Speaker 2: Had nauseum on the on at least where I think I was at the Today Show at the time, and it was a big deal because how strange you've got your roommate has been viciously murdered in your home and police are there, and it's shocking and it's scary, and what do you do? You you do a cartwheel while you're while the police are It was just, well, you're being you're being questioned, your boyfriend's being questioned, and it just seemed like a strange thing to do. She described it later. I believe is just a release basically, but still it was something that actually a lot of folks pointed to as part of her behavior that led to her arrest and ultimately her conviction, because she wasn't behaved being the way people expected someone to behave when their roommate's just been murdered.
00:02:05
Speaker 1: Well, the show is called Cartwells, she says, a play or a reference to that story, which was just a reported story, a rumor, something came out of the Italian police station at the time.
00:02:16
Speaker 2: Heart Wheel.
00:02:17
Speaker 1: That's what the claim is, and that's why she's able to make a play on that infamous story. But yes, it's called Cartwheel's and she is performing this one woman comedy show in Scotland. There's a festival going on there. But the family of the victim robes, and I guess I can understand that to a certain degree. I don't even I don't know if you're doing a one woman show about your ordeal. It's her story. She can tell her story. She has a right to it. I don't know. I haven't seen the show. I don't know if it's im poor taste or not. But initially it sounds a little uncomfortable to be making light of what she went through. But what she went through was something that came about because of the murder of somebody, and so it's I don't know, this is I don't know. We're gonn let you hear what the family is actually saying. But and there's a petition out there this morning to get the show shut down. But just the initial reaction to it robes. It seems like an odd choice. I don't want to condemn her for it, but it just seems odd, you know what.
00:03:16
Speaker 2: I can't imagine what and how she has processed everything. Look she went through, and not to minimize what Meredith Kircher's family has gone through and will continue to live with for the rest of their life, the loss and the vicious murder of their loved one. But I do think that Amanda Knox has had her own version of trauma and this is how she is trying to deal with it express it. And while I totally understand why Meredith's family is upset and outraged, I also understand maybe why Amanda Knox needs a creative outlet for what she's been through, and both sides can have a point. And you know, I don't even know how I feel about it because we haven't it, and that was part of what Amanda Knox and we'll get into her reaction to Meredith's family's reaction, but her bigger point is you haven't seen it. You don't know what it is. You don't know what I'm saying, you don't know what I'm doing. And she's insisting that she is actually honoring Meredith. So I just think before everybody gets up in arms and tries to cancel folks and say you can't put this on look, I do think that Amanda Knox has a story to tell, and I know she's written a book and she's there have been plenty of made for TV movies and all sorts of entertainment that has arisen from this horrific real life tragedy. But don't we see that in most cases as well, where look, a lot of crimes, given enough time even become a source of entertainment for a lot of people.
00:04:44
Speaker 1: And I could see at this point, I guess it's yes, it's been a while, bro, but I'm sure it's still for I mean, well, it never goes to was twenty nineteen twenty at the time, so she still would have been a pretty young woman at this point. But the show is described kark Will is described this way. Amanda Knox is approaching forty, juggling motherhood and finally getting around to being furious about the whole wrongful imprisonment thing, especially when half the world is telling her to get over it while the other half still thinks she's guilty. How on earth will she explain it all to her daughter, who is now asking to hear the story. Mama goes to Italy and she can protect her from well everything during her own mother couldn't protect her no matter how hard she tried. That's the description that they do lay out, And it's just her up there, and that's supposed to be it. She's telling this story of what happened to her trip to Italy to her daughter, and she goes about telling it in some comedic way. That's the pitch how to I mean, I frankly sounds kind of clever way to go about it.
00:05:50
Speaker 2: Yes, And I do think, look, oftentimes we deal with tragedy, we deal with really hard topics through humor. I mean, it does help in the healing process for some, but I can understand how it's a rub to others that it makes perfect sense that Amanda Knox would take this approach, I think in a lot of ways, because it's so awful what happened to her and the time in years she lost of her life, and as she points out in that description, part of the rest of her life has been taken from her in a lot of ways, because there are still so many people out there who believe she did commit that murder, that she is guilty of viciously violently stabbing her roommate for some bizarre sn m. I think that was the Italian prosecutor's narrative, that she was what was it, foxy Noxy, that she was into some deviant sexual behavior. There were drugs and things got out of hand.
00:06:49
Speaker 1: That's tough.
00:06:50
Speaker 2: You don't ever fully shake that. And so she's trying to take back a narrative and making at least giving at least a comedic through line to us.
00:07:00
Speaker 1: All of that. And again that was her and her reminder. Her and her boyfriend were convicted. They did spend time in prison. I believe she ended up with four years. They were Eventually those were thrown out and somebody else was convicted of those murders has served his time. The case is closed, the case is done. However, this still wrote she was the only one for a long time, she was the only person that we were associating with the murder. She was the only suspect they were talking about. And yes, young white girl doesn't look like she's some vicious murderer. Yes, this was an international phenomenon of a story. So here she is, all these years later. If you don't know, and you probably do, she has been out there. She's been an advocate for people wrongly convicted. She's told her story. She's told it, and what Network had her story as one of the streamers. It was a big whoopie do. Monica Lewinsky helped produce that thing. Right, She's been out there, she's been active, So this isn't necessarily a surprise that she would choose, like you said, a creative outlet to do something, but had no idea she was doing this. So what does the sister say. She did a sit down interview with BBC. I do believe, and this is how she put it. It very much normalizes and trivializes violenced against women, and Meredith in particular. That wasn't my first thought, but she is making a point there. We will let you hear more of what she said, but I guess the point there were OBEs is you're you're making light of something. It was a man who killed, who was convicted of killing. You're making light trivializing as a is the word.
00:08:35
Speaker 2: She used, trivializing violence against women. I look, and I just I understand where she's coming from. I understand her anger and her pain and being very frustrated and outraged by this one woman comedic act. But again, none of us know what's what the script is, what a man an Ox is going to do or say when she takes that stage. And look, look there was a petition going around and I say, you've just updated the signatures because this morning earlier I think, or the last article I saw it was six thousand signatures. It's now up to eighty two o seven.
00:09:11
Speaker 1: Look at it right now as of this recording.
00:09:14
Speaker 2: And the petition is on change dot org and anyone can read it, but we can read part of it for you, because this is exactly basically this is coming a friend from a friend who created this petition. So she writes, I met Meredith Kircher years ago when she worked with me saving money for her gap year trip to Perusia. During that time, I became friends with her sister, Steph. Meredith was bright, full of dreams, and had a life filled with promise ahead of her. Tragically, in two thousand and seven, her life was brutally cut short. The rape and murder of Meredith devastated her family left a scar that will never fully hear A heel excuse me. Sadly, their pain was compounded when their mother's succumb to co nineteen and their father was killed in a tragic hit and run accident. I had no idea that those two events occurred. Recently, I learned about a stage performance titled Cartwheel, said to be showcased at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival. The show mocks the horrific events surrounding Meredith's murder and aims to somehow turn this tragedy into entertainment. Meredith's surviving siblings have bravely spoken out against this production, labeling it as absurd and a gross trivialization of their sister's death. The show not only disrespects Meredith's memory, but it also risks normalizing violence against women by making light of such a harrowing event. And then they go on to talk about the Edinburgh Fringehip Festival. How yes it freedom comes with responsibility. So they say, yes, we understand artistic expression, but they also need to value empathy and respect. They want Cartwheel to be canceled. They say the performance cart Will must be canceled not only out of respect for Meredith's family, but as a stand against the normalization of violence against women in popular culture.
00:11:11
Speaker 1: I don't know what we do or robes. I'm this is one of those that maybe I say that from my seat. I've never been wrongfully convicted of murder in a foreign country and then been exonerated. So she went through a hell and continues to a certain degree to go through some kind of hell in public. So I don't know how to it's even before seeing it, even if it's a hilarious show from start to finish, I don't know how to go about necessarily criticizing or condemning because I haven't walked in her shoes, Robes. And yes, there was a horrific murder, but that was also could argue this horrific injustice. She experienced something too, and she has a story to tell and she's telling it in that respect, Robes. I can't imagine her mocking in some way the death.
00:12:05
Speaker 2: No, I can't imagine that either. And if she did, then of course yes something should be said. But look, when you hear Amanda Knox's Instagram response to this petition, I do think it puts it into perspective because she does defend the show and talks about the petition to cancel, and she says Cartwheel is a show about motherhood, raising a daughter in a world that is unfair and dangerous for women, and what it costs to be the kind of mother who tells her the truth about that. Neither the author of this petition, nor anyone who signed it has seen Cartwheel. The petition contains many false assumptions and completely mischaracterizes the show. Cartwheel honors Meredith Kircher's memory and calls out the violence that was done to her and to me. A petition to cancel the show no one has seen on the grounds of false accusation intended to shame and vilify a wronged woman into silence is not an argument against Cartwheel. It's a fairly precise description of what Cartwheel is about and why it deserves to exist. And she says the Edinburgh Fringe is the perfect place for a show like this, and she talks about how that particular film festival uses comedy as a way to explore difficult subjects like grief, trauma, mental health, addiction, illness, identity politics. So she's saying, this is the perfect place for a show like this, and everyone, hold up, hold off your judgments and hold off your accusations until you see what I'm going to put on the stage.
00:13:40
Speaker 1: I don't know what to judge. I mean, I really don't. I mean nothing you do in a comedy show about your experience. I don't have a next thing some people. And it's fair if you say it's in poor taste. It shouldn't be done, or you shouldn't be seen to even profit. But it's her story. She's been profiting from it, she's written books about it and whatnot.
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Speaker 2: It's and she paid dearly for And.
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Speaker 1: So I don't know, Robes, I'm and it is and I am not at all going to get close to criticizing anyone for that. Loved Meredith to hear about this and not immediately react and be pissed by no judgment in that. But it's a healthy enough debate, Robes, And I think it's getting attention for the show. Maybe it will change. I mean, we are talking right now, as she put it, and that was the best line in there. You actually are talking about silence and a woman from telling her story. That lends this the problem.
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Speaker 2: And she was another victim in this horrific tragedy.
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Speaker 1: Yes, in this No, we don't need to do any comparative suffering. Someone died. We know that was the worst suffering, but there is a there's still a living victim of that whole situation. I don't know. I'm curious to see the show. I don't know how much bigger it's going to get. This could just be a one off. This festival has been around for fifty or something years. I didn't know about it, but it is and artsy type and this is they invite folks like this who are up and coming. I have story to tells. And it goes for a couple of three weeks.
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Speaker 2: Three weeks, I would imagine they're going to have sold out shows, especially after this back and forth.
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Speaker 1: I looked for them. There's no tickets available. I did I there are non available. It's not like a huge venue. It's not selling out a ten thousand seed stadium, but still there are no tickets available. But stay here. We do want you to hear precisely what Stephanie Mercher said the sister of the victim, and you know what both sides robes. I think you'll agree in how they're talking about it. They come off sincerely, they should be listened to, and they don't sound like they're attacking each other. So we'll let you hear from the sister of the victim and see if that changes your mind one way or another.
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Speaker 2: Stare Welcome back everyone to Amy and TJ. We are talking about Cartwheel. It is a new one woman comedic show Amanda Knox has written, produced and is storing in it and it's going to be taking place at the Edinburgh Fringe Festival a three week and we just learned a sold out show. And look, she's exploring what she went through, her difficulties, explaining it as a mother to her daughter, and she's doing it through a comedic telling of her experience and that has obviously I mean, I say obviously, but it's understandably upset the victim in this case, Meredith Kircher, or at least the murder victim in this case, and her sister is speaking out about her feelings on Amanda Knox's decision to put this show together.
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Speaker 1: And even in doing sol robe she pointed out if the presenter it was a British now saying that the prisoner, what the hell? The journalist, oh yeah. It was actually pointing out to the sister, you don't talk, you haven't been talking, and was asking like why on this one? And she did. She come through and kind of explained this is different, this was worth speaking up and speaking out about. She said it calmly, she was an emotional and whatnot, and was very sweet lady in what she was describing, but this is where she's coming from, she said, quote Amanda is naturally free to continue with her life as she wishes. But I think the problem with this particular project is that it is comedy. While I appreciate comedy is here to push the boundary, it very much normalizes trivializes violence against women, and Meredith in particular. I think in this case, it's a position where it's not a generic topic. It's targeting an individual trauma and an individual person and family. I feel very strongly that Meredith would agree with that. She I don't think anything unreasonable is in there.
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Speaker 2: No, not at all, and she went on to say it's not about whether people think she's guilty or innocent. If someone else was doing the show specifically against Meredith, I would still feel the same. It is obviously an added wound that it's coming from her at the same time, but I do feel very strongly that it should be something that's not given a platform in the past. Rightfully, so we've maintained silence and we wanted to preserve Meredith's memory. Amanda has put herself back in the public eye. This particular project is around comedy and when you're broaching that subject in a comedy, there needs to be an essence of responsibility there, and she says, this is giving a platform to something that affects more than just my family and Meredith. It affects a lot of people out there, and it shouldn't be given a platform that specific topic. Look, Amanda, she's arguing, is put herself back in the public eye. And yes, I understand where she's coming from creating a show around this, but I would imagine being Amanda Knox. It's hard not to always be a public spectacle with her name, her likeness, everyone not like it's kind of like it's funny you mentioned Monica Lewinsky. I feel like in a similar way, those are names that are always and forever going to be associated with something incredibly painful and negative, and it's hard to escape it. So if you embrace it, if you acknowledge it, if you find a way to turn it into something good, make your mess, your message, et cetera. I can understand she's it's not as if she just can go live a private life and no one would be whispering and talking. It's I'm sure a very difficult balance to strike.
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Speaker 1: However, she wants to strike it. I have no problem with whatever however she wants to go about it. And she should be commended to a certain degree for not going away and hiding, for being an advocate for folks who are wrongly convicted. But me, yes, she's making a choice to go do a public show. Absolutely knock yourself out.
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Speaker 2: It might be part of her healing, part of her therapy. And look, no one has to go see this if they don't want to. It's being done on a stage. It's not being broadcast for millions to watch. But I will be interested in hearing the reviews, hearing what it is that she does put on on that stage.
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Speaker 1: I would watch and if it comes to Broadway, sign me up.
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Speaker 2: Alright. And with that, everyone, we always appreciate listening to us. I'm made me Roeboch alongside TJ. Holmes.
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Speaker 1: We'll talk sim