Oct. 29, 2026
Actor Barry Keoghan Shares Cosmetic Procedure After Detailing Hateful Online Comments About His Looks
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RSS Feed 34-year-old Peaky Blinders’ actor Barry Keoghan shared a video of himself receiving a cosmetic treatment to tighten his skin and improve his appearance. Keoghan highlighted his celebrity aesthetician in a behind-the-scenes video showing him getting a “Xerf” treatment, which is described as a “non-invasive, needle-free, dual-frequency skin-tightening and collagen-boosting” treatment. Keoghan recently opened up about cruel comments online that forced him off social media and impacted his ability to act, saying: “There’s a lot of hate online. It’s a lot of abuse of how I look.”
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Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Thursday, October 29th, and a famous Hollywood actor expresses vulnerability, shame even, after getting harassed over their looks, specifically their face. This actor even had to quit social media. Well, just showed back up on social media, and in this video, he is getting a cosmetic surgery. Excuse me. Cosmetic procedure, I should call it. Hey, folks, Amy and TJ here. Clearly, I don't know what the hell I'm talking about when it comes to all this stuff. This would be deemed a cosmetic procedure, would it not?
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Speaker 2: Yes, please consult the expert here. I'm laughing. I'm no expert, but I am certainly a consumer of cosmetic procedures.
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Speaker 1: And it's clear he's not getting surgery when you see this, but the key there before I fucked up the intro was that this, when you hear it initially, and it's being talked about, Robes, and what this actor has expressed, we're talking about a guy. So much emphasis is put on women and what they look like. And we have seen even Ariana Grande step back recently because of criticism about her body. What's Millie Bobby Brown? This guy, Rose, was really vulnerable in talking about the harassment over his face is too much. Yeah. You know what?
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Speaker 2: It's one of those things. And we've been told this.
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Speaker 3: And I think anyone who has experienced or felt any sort of online shaming, when it happens to you, it truly feels in some moments like your world is imploding. And I had no idea that Barry Keoghan, who was suffering from people just harassing him over how he looked, I had no idea. It wasn't on my radar. And so it's just so interesting what people Even public people personally and privately suffer. When we're not even aware of it, it doesn't seem like a big deal to us, but it's a big deal to.
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Speaker 2: Him and to that person.
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Speaker 3: If you're coming after somebody, if you think it's funny or harmless to poke fun or make fun of how somebody looks or in any way comment on their physical appearance, you're mistaken. It doesn't matter who you are. It doesn't matter how much money you make or how big of a movie star you are.
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Speaker 1: Hurts.
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Speaker 3: And so to hear him be this vulnerable and to actually go so far as to try and do something about his appearance is just, it's sad.
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Speaker 1: It is. I mean, I don't know which part. It's sad for him. I hate he, look, and what he's doing, we should be clear, we're going to get into, he's not completely altering his look, but he is going through something very few people can afford to do. He's going through something that He's going back for a couple of sessions to do now. And Rose, this was, look, he got off social media. He gets back on, and this is what he is putting out. It's a choice he's made, but Rose, I did. Your heart breaks, and you make a point. I don't care who every single person, every single celebrity has to read this stuff or have somebody come after them. It feels this way. I guess it was unique in that he expressed it in such an open and honest way as he did, but so many of them. Feel it.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: And this comes their way.
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Speaker 3: But her big thing is no mean people allowed. She's like, the second anyone leaves any mean comment on my page, I'm off.
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Speaker 2: I'm gone.
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Speaker 3: She was like, I can't take it. And it really is one of those things where, especially when you're a public figure, you're constantly being scrutinized. But to have people weighing in on how they think you look is sometimes just too much.
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Speaker 2: It's the final straw.
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Speaker 1: But how are you supposed to? I mean, what is the trick to combating it? any of that. You have to either stay away from it, Robes, or my goodness, you have to have a hell of a defense system built up for that stuff to not impact you when the whole world is coming after you. People that don't know you, right? We all want to be liked. My problem, Robes, is that when people talking about me don't know me to make the determination of whether or not they should like me. If you know me and I ain't your cup of tea, I can stomach that. But most of these people get stuff coming It's incoming from people who have no idea who he is, where he's from, what he's about, what he's been through, what he's going through right now. You don't know any idea. This dude has been under assault overâ he has a unique look.
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Speaker 2: He has a unique look.
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Speaker 1: Okay. So do a lot of actors.
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Speaker 3: A lot of them are character actors, and they're distinctive and memorable, and we love them. We'll go throughâ actually, we were kind ofâ you were going through some names of actors we love who.
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Speaker 2: Do have a unique look.
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Speaker 3: And part of that is perhaps the secret sauce to their magic. Yes, they're all talented actors, but when you have a unique face, you're memorable.
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Speaker 1: He's unique, yes.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can play some memorable characters in a way someone who might be generically attractive couldn't.
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Speaker 1: And he has been in big movies. Salt Burn was the big one we got to know him for. He's starring in the latest season of Peaky, the last one of Peaky Blinders. He's Irish, right?
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Speaker 2: He's an Irish actor, Barry Keoghan. Yes.
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Speaker 1: But this role he's got now, Robes, he's this new, I didn't realize they're doing it in four parts, this Beatles bio they're doing. He plays Ringo.
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Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 2: That makes sense.
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Speaker 1: They're doing, this is a four-part movie. And each movie is going to focus on a different Beatle.
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Speaker 2: Oh, that's really cool.
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Speaker 1: He gets Ringo. Rose, that's not a small deal. The dude is clearly talented and is working in Hollywood. Whatever his face is, somebody digs it.
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Speaker 2: Yes, he dated Sabrina Carpenter, for God's sakes.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 3: And so he's 34 years old, so he's not some aging, older actor. Look, a lot of women, I think the difference with this story may be then, I think if a woman had put this out there, it wouldn't have made the same kind of splash or headlines.
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Speaker 2: Seeing that a young man.
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Speaker 3: A 34-year-old actor who we all know from some of these movies, to know that he's actually going through some expensive treatments.
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Speaker 2: Now, I will say, my ears.
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Speaker 3: perked up because, yes, I'm always interested in non-invasive procedures that can actually make you look refreshed.
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Speaker 2: Or younger or help with sagging skin.
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Speaker 3: And he actually went on social media talking about a treatment I had never even heard of before.
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Speaker 1: Is it Zurf?
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Speaker 2: I think it's Zurf is what it's called. And from the website, a Zurf.
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Speaker 3: Treatment is advanced radio frequency technology that delivers controlled energy and different layers of the skin to support tightening and collagen renewal. You know, this is my cup of tea because I'm not, I don't like to do the fillers or anything like that. But what I do like to do is tighten my skin and have collagen renewal. So yes, I have gone through plenty of painful and expensive non-invasive procedures to avoid, you know, some of the other options that people have.
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Speaker 2: And it, this is, this is one I hadn't heard of before.
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Speaker 1: But the context for it, if you can help with context, this is, I mean, I see it, It looks simple. It's not painful. It's just going on. But for what it purports to do, is this some advanced technology, new technology, a different version of stuff people are already getting?
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Speaker 3: What?
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Speaker 2: A lot of this is.
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Speaker 3: newer because look, I think before people always knew about Botox and they know about fillers, but a lot of people don't want to do either one of those things and they don't like needles. And I thought this was pretty, pretty cool because there is non-surgical, there are no needles and there's no numbing cream. You know, I go every couple of months to my anesthetician and, and you're like, how long are you going to be there? I'm like, well, they have to numb me for an hour because I do a lot of microneedling. That's my jam. And if you don't get numbed, it's painful. And yes, there's little needles that go in and basically try to disrupt your skin so that your body has a response and sends collagen and tightens your skin and renews it and makes it look more youthful, but it doesn't change your appearance. This apparently is not painful, no numbing cream, no needles, and it does kind of do the same thing.
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Speaker 2: It tightens and lifts. your skin.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 1: When you go to your doctor, what do you call them? An esthetician. I mean, is this the lobby full of guys? No, it's all women. Is, but are there, is this something that sort of forget the Hollywood part? Is this something that's a guy going in for a specialized skin tightening thing like this where you go, Hmm, I mean, no big deal, but do you go, Oh, a guy?
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Speaker 3: Uh, well it is unusual, I would say, but someone who's, whose face is on camera, uh, makes that makes total sense i totally get that and i look it this doesn't change how you look it doesn't change your appearance it just makes you look tighter and more refreshed and if you have some sagging skin and look genetics are a huge look irish skin is notably not known for its elasticity and thickness so i get it like i really oh yes oh irish english uh you know all of that uk europeans.
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Speaker 1: It's not known for its what like.
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Speaker 2: Thick, buoyant skin.
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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm as white as they come, 100% European. And so yes, we're always fighting our genetics when it comes to skin aesthetics. And so yes, Irish skin, people have joked about, yes, it's not meant for the sun. It doesn't necessarily age as well as some others.
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Speaker 2: And so I get it.
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Speaker 3: He's 34, but he's, look, he's tightening up his skin.
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Speaker 2: But the That's not the sad thing. I think that's empowering.
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Speaker 3: And I think that's wonderful, taking advantage of new technology to just refresh your skin. But it is sad to think that he's doing it because he was bullied online for how he looked that is what is sad it's not sad that he's empowering himself to look like his best version and he has the money to do that amazing it's the fact that he did it it seems like because he was being harassed and bullied for his.
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Speaker 1: Looks how much is the thing you do.
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Speaker 3: Uh, you know what? I try not to think about it, but I think I end up, I end up getting a package of three sessions with the micro needling.
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Speaker 2: And I also do PRP. I'm more, I try to be fully transparent.
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Speaker 3: That's a vampire facial where they actually take your blood, separate your plasma and inject your plasma. Again, it's just about trying to use your own, um, I guess DNA.
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Speaker 1: Whatever's comparable to this. How much is this?
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Speaker 2: Well, I pay like 1500 bucks a session, I believe.
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Speaker 1: What that does the three package do?
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Speaker 3: Yeah. And when you do the package, you get, you get like 20% off. So however that amounts.
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Speaker 2: To, but it's expensive.
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Speaker 1: So this sounds right. Then he gets two sessions for six grand.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's expensive.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's exactly what it's not.
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Speaker 3: I got three sessions for 4,500 probably with 20% off.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm, you know, but yes, it's several grand for sure.
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Speaker 1: Two sessions. I didn't actually see. Did you see how long the sessions go? I didn't see it.
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Speaker 3: I did actually look it up. I looked up the Zerfin. It's 30 to 60 minutes. And look, the sensation is gentle, sustained warmth. And the cool thing is there's no side effects.
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Speaker 2: There's no bruising. There's no redness.
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Speaker 3: If there is a little mild redness, it fades within hours. There's no recovery necessary. Look what I do with the microneedling.
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Speaker 2: You've seen it.
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Speaker 3: Sometimes you do get bruising. You do have redness. There is some swelling. There is some downtime. This kind of looks amazing because it's just, they say the thing that it's most like, except for Morpheus uses little natals, but Morpheus 8, I did that as well once as well because the Kardashians have talked about it, which again uses the same kind of wavelength like the radio frequency technology, but it's combined with needles too. So honestly, he's doing a much less invasive thing than a lot of women do.
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Speaker 2: All the time.
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Speaker 1: And folks, the reason this has got our attention and getting a lot of people's attention is not because we want to highlight, wow, there's this great new cosmetic procedure you can get that's doing gangbusters. It's that Robes combined with what he did or what he said just months ago about his appearance and how he was feeling about his appearance. To see him do this today is making headlines. It is getting attention. What to do with it from... No, no, no. I don't... A lot of guys, even this woman who does this, she owns a... It's in London, actually. Derma Spa. She's a beauty expert. Nylem Holmes is her name, actually. But she has other famous clients. Among them, Nicole Scherzinger, Chris Appleton, Rosie Huntington, Whitley. Or is it Whitley? I think it's Whitley. She's the one who's been engaged to Jason Statham since, what, 2005?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, gorgeous model, actress. Yes.
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Speaker 1: They've been engaged like 10 years.
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Speaker 2: They're making it work.
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Speaker 1: They're making it work.
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Speaker 3: So.
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Speaker 1: Um, he's heard in this video, she says she's worked with him for a little while, but you hear his voice. He's doing a voiceover. It looks like he's doing a solid for, I don't know if he got this session for free, but it looks like he was doing a commercial for him.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Um, he, in the, um, he, he narrates basically the video of her doing this procedure on him.
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Speaker 2: And by the way, I will say he looks fabulous.
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Speaker 3: Um, but he said, I feel better about myself.
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Speaker 2: I look better.
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Speaker 3: And I think it's important to look after yourself both inside and outside.
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Speaker 2: And I get that. Look, I am all about the look good, feel good method.
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Speaker 3: And that involves from exercise to what you put in your body to how much sleep you get at night.
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Speaker 2: All of that's important.
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Speaker 3: And yes, when you get to a certain point, I too have looked for less invasive ways to try and stay looking younger and fresher.
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Speaker 1: Well, this is what he said just a short time ago, a few months ago, about his looks that certainly got a lot of people's attention. He did this in a radio interview, actually, saying, and I quote, there's a lot of hate online. There's a lot of abuse of how I look. And it's kind of past the point of, you know, everyone goes through that. It's made me shy away. It's made me really go inside myself, not want to attend places, not want to go outside. It's becoming a problem.
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Speaker 2: That's heartbreaking.
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Speaker 1: That's a hell of an admission. I'm an actor. I've been in blockbusters. I've been in hit shows. And I don't want to go outside and show my face because you all are making me feel a certain way about it. It's tough to be, Robes, when you're, no matter how confident of a person you are, if all you're seeing overwhelmingly are really hateful, mean words just about how you look. I don't know how you can, all you can do is avoid it. But I don't know how you, who's strong enough to go, yeah, whatever, man.
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Speaker 2: Yes, easy to say, very hard to actually implement.
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Speaker 3: He actually went on to say, I actually don't go to places because of these things. When that starts leaking into your art, it becomes a problem because you don't even want to be on screen anymore.
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Speaker 1: That would be a shame. That would be a shame. It reminds me of this thing they said about Michael Jordan when he was getting so much press and they were criticizing him for this and his gambling. At one point, they just came after him. Someone said in that documentary, You all are going to run him right out of this league. Like, he's just exhausted. When I hear him say this, like, how close is he getting? Does he want to not take roles? Does he not even like what he's doing anymore? It's creeping into my art that I don't even want to be outside. Just hope it doesn't. He's obviously a talented dude. But that line was a little scary.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because it goes to show if you're so self-conscious about you, look, because of what other people are sending you and saying about you, it's distracting as an actor. You can't be in.
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Speaker 3: Your head about your aesthetics when you're trying to actually artfully recreate and portray someone else. I can totally get how that would be, like there's no other way to put it, a total mindfuck.
00:16:05
Speaker 2: And that insecurity can be so devastating.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:16:09
Speaker 1: But stay here, folks. That was that recent interview he did for radio. But it was actually in 2024 when he put out a message saying he was getting off social media and he explained why. We'll let you hear that. Also, we had a few names to throw at you. There are plenty of actors out there that are doing really well. Got some pretty unique looks.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back, everyone, to Amy and TJ. We're talking about Barry Keoghan, 34-year-old Irish actor. You know him if you've watched Salt Burn, Peaky Blinders. He's got some big projects coming up, including playing Ringo for the Beatles, and he's He's in.
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Speaker 1: The Batman sequel that we mentioned as well. That's a big deal.
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Speaker 3: Yes, that's a huge deal. And so, look, he got off social media. We saw him narrate, and we see him receiving a treatment about tightening his skin.
00:17:08
Speaker 2: He's talking about it.
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Speaker 3: And, yes, as you pointed out, did a solid for Nylem Holmes, who was doing the treatment on him, the Zurf treatment. And, yes, that was interesting and made headlines. But what's beneath those headlines is what is soâ heartbreaking and fascinating at the same time. And I just think it should be eye-opening. I just believe a lot of people think certain stars or certain people, if you're in the public eye and you chose that profession, you should have skin made of Teflon.
00:17:37
Speaker 2: Well, guess what? We're all human beings. And Barry Keoghan is among them. And he actually, when he quit social media.
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Speaker 3: He put out a post in 2024 that you have to really read and let it sink in. And just maybe this will make some folks think twice before they fire off a comment about how somebody looks.
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Speaker 1: We can hope, but they won't. Why are you attacking anybody over how they look? I'm trying to think of what I could, like, even if I felt it, I would say it to you. I won't go online and say to them directly. You know what I've said to guys? Have you ever told, I only said something about somebody's appearance before to help them out. And privately. How do you go?
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Speaker 2: Like you've got something in your teeth or something like that?
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Speaker 1: I've done that. Robes, I've gone up to guys who forgot to undo the vent on the back of their jacket and said, hey, man, you might want to catch that.
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's just a helpful.
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Speaker 1: That's helpful. Hey, man, you got something right there. You didn't take that. Hey, your hair, you got a piece missing right there. Your tie's not straight. I mean, I've tried to help people. I've never just looked at someone and said, man, you look a mess. I mean, you need to fix that.
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Speaker 2: But even saying to someone's face is different than writing about them anonymously or making some horrible comment. I remember I got trolled when I was on MSNBC for the longest time by this woman. And I'll be honest, and you've pointed it out to me and we've laughed about it. I never noticed, but I have my collarbone.
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Speaker 3: I have like two points on my shoulder that are raised and they stick out a little bit. I never even noticed it. This woman was just like, your disgusting bones are sticking out. And then I became kind of obsessed with it and I didn't want to wear certain dresses.
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Speaker 2: And I thought, wait a minute, this is crazy.
00:19:17
Speaker 1: And that's one lady, by the way.
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Speaker 2: That's one lady.
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Speaker 3: But I'm just saying that you can change what you wear. You can change how you operate, how you feel about yourself based on one person just going after you about a certain feature or something they don't like about you.
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Speaker 2: And what he wrote was just heartbreaking.
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Speaker 1: He wrote, I can only sit and take so much. My name has been dragged. across the internet in ways I usually don't respond to. I have to respond now because it's getting to a place where there are too many lines being crossed. I deactivated my account because I can no longer let this stuff distract from my family and my work. The messages I have received, no person should ever have to read them. Absolute lies, hatred, disgusting commentary about my apparent character, how I am as a parent, and every other inhumane thing you can imagine. Oh, gross, this... And he has a son. I don't see the age. I assume fairly young. But he's spoken before about the idea, like, my kid is going to read the stuff about his dad on the Internet.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I saw that.
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Speaker 1: And the things people are saying about his dad. It's just, that's the message. So that was the message from, I guess, when it first got on our radar. And then, of course, he did that interview. Robes, I don't, I have a list here in front of you. But you could come up with some. I think everybody can off the top of their head. actors who just have unique and even strange looks but how cool is.
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Speaker 3: That you know i think it's great every single person is unique and but to think that someone like barry keoghan is dealing with this yeah unique looks you you came uh remy malik that yes he does have a very unique.
00:20:54
Speaker 1: Look absolutely he's a egyptian right yes i believe he won the oscar for the then you have to wear the fake teeth.
00:21:01
Speaker 2: Yes, he did. Freddie Mercury.
00:21:03
Speaker 1: Freddie Mercury. So even that made him look weird when he got famous. Yes. Really famous. That's how we got to know him. So yeah.
00:21:09
Speaker 2: And Steve Buscemi, that's one of your favorites.
00:21:11
Speaker 1: Oh, Steve Buscemi. He never got the tooth fixed, babe. He has that tooth sticking out. He is a very creepy looking dude. No offense, but it works for him.
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Speaker 2: William Dafoe, another one.
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Speaker 1: Has he ever been anything other than that look? He just... Yes. He has a unique look. I don't want to sound offensive, but he has a... A unique, creepy look to him.
00:21:31
Speaker 3: Yes, which allows him to play specific characters. And you know what's so funny is we love House of the Dragon. Not sure if any of you all listening watch it, but it is fantastic. And one of the main characters, and it's funny, I had no idea he had such a. generic name right because he has such a distinctive look but his name is matt smith which that makes me laugh i still can't believe that's his name but if you google that in house of the dragon you'll know exactly who we're talking about he is such a wildly talented actor we love him in this series.
00:22:03
Speaker 1: And he is the way he looks making makes him perfect for that role it's perfect i And so, yeah, he stands out. But even he has a look in the way he carries himself in such a confident way that he's handsome.
00:22:16
Speaker 2: He's sexy.
00:22:17
Speaker 3: Yes.
00:22:17
Speaker 2: He is absolutely sexy. And not the traditional good-looking guy, but he is sexy and powerful and all of that.
00:22:24
Speaker 1: And perfect. And if anybody knows the Conjuring series, in particular the Nun and the Nun 2 robes, That's how she looks.
00:22:32
Speaker 2: Bonnie Arons. But also, one of our favorites, Drag Me to Hell.
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Speaker 3: She plays that evil, old witch of a woman who haunts the main character in Drag Me to Hell.
00:22:43
Speaker 2: You know how much we love that movie. But Bonnie Arons. And yeah, you Google her. She has a very unique look. And it's witch-like.
00:22:53
Speaker 1: What else are you supposed to say? I thought, well, when I first saw her, I kind of remember how I looked it up. I think I was a fascination. How did they get that? none to look that way. It's a very unique look. They found the actress they wanted. Not a whole lot. She looks like that.
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Speaker 2: It's pretty incredible.
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Speaker 1: She does.
00:23:11
Speaker 2: And you even point out Owen Wilson.
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Speaker 3: He's got, you know, the nose, the bump in the nose. He's got the, Patrick Wilson is his brother, but Owen's got that distinctive, unique look. And that's what, it's part of what makes them I think that's how they bring some of their characters to life by using their own cleft palate.
00:23:33
Speaker 1: The Joker. What's his name? Oh, yes, yes.
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Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
00:23:37
Speaker 2: Now I can't think of his name.
00:23:39
Speaker 1: Phoenix.
00:23:40
Speaker 2: Phoenix.
00:23:40
Speaker 1: Joaquin.
00:23:41
Speaker 2: Joaquin Phoenix. And, yes, he has a cleft palate.
00:23:44
Speaker 1: And he has an Oscar.
00:23:46
Speaker 2: And he has an Oscar.
00:23:47
Speaker 1: He sure does. So, if anything, I'm rooting for this dude. Barry Keoghan if you don't know the name right off the top of your head and you see his face you're going to go oh yeah because you've seen something he's in but also you're going to go oh yeah that's an unmistakable face and Peaky Blinders is it about Where are theâ is it Irish Gangs?
00:24:06
Speaker 2: It's Irish Gangs.
00:24:07
Speaker 1: Heâ nobody else can play that role. He fits right in. It's perfect. Perfectly.
00:24:12
Speaker 3: I've watchedâ it's a long time ago. I watched a couple episodes. I just didn't have the time to keep watching. It is a phenomenal series.
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Speaker 1: Gillian Murphy?
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 1: He leads that thing?
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Speaker 2: So good. So good.
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Speaker 3: So, yes, hopefully we can all give him some love, be a little bit kinder after the story, and I guarantee you Zerf treatments. I have a feeling a lot of people are going to be calling their anestheticians or looking for their local med spa to see if they too can get a Zerf treatment. I did say it seemed like a little less expensive in some areas. Depends on where you are.
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Speaker 2: The $ 3, 000 to $ 6, 000 was on the higher end, I believe. I saw some for like $ 4, 000. But still, it's an expensive procedure.
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Speaker 1: The same treatment.
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Speaker 2: Yes, but I went online immediately and looked at the before and afters. It's pretty impressive.
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Speaker 1: It better be for six grand.
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Speaker 3: Agreed.
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Speaker 1: Well, I wouldn't even know where to start. If I needed an esthetician or something else, a med spa, would you say?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you go into these. Yes, some people go to dermatologists, but there are so many med spas. Well, a dermatologist is an MD, and they can also screen for skin cancer and be surgical.
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Speaker 2: But a lot of these anestheticians, they're all trained and trained.
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Speaker 3: Credentialed but yes they have these med spas all over the country and they become wildly popular from.
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Speaker 1: Botox are they the ones that do botox.
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Speaker 3: Yes they do all i guess and dermatologists won't yeah they do okay they do too but it tends to be a little bit less expensive oftentimes in these med spas because you aren't getting an md but someone i always think someone who's you want md well but no because mds are focused on a lot of life-saving treatments and i would my experience has been if you actually pick an anesthetician who does nothing but certain procedures They're going to be experts at it.
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Speaker 2: They go and they get trained. They get licensed. They're board certified.
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Speaker 1: Dermatologist isn't? I don't prefer having somebody with an MD put a needle in my face.
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Speaker 2: They don't do those procedures every day.
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Speaker 3: I'd rather have somebody who does nothing but that and knows exactly what they're doing when it comes to a cosmetic procedure.
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Speaker 1: I went right to Krista Pike when you said that. I don't need somebody doing this every day. Isn't that the complaint?
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 1: They don't know how to do this. Somebody's not trained to find it.
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Speaker 3: I want somebody who focuses solely on cosmetic procedures, and I'll go to the dermatologist to check moles and look for skin cancer and anything that's medical. But when it comes to cosmetics, I prefer somebody who does that very procedure every single day.
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Speaker 1: I've never been to a dermatologist or an esthetician. Well, how do you even say it?
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Speaker 2: Esthetician. Wait, it's esthetician.
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Speaker 1: It's an esthetician. That's where I messed it up.
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Speaker 2: Yes, now I'm confused.
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Speaker 1: It's esthetician.
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Speaker 2: An esthetician.
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Speaker 1: No. An esthetician.
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Speaker 2: Aesthetician, right? Now I'm confused.
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Speaker 1: The esthetician works here. Is that correct?
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 2: It's an esthetician.
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Speaker 1: Huh?
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Speaker 2: Aesthetician.
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Speaker 1: Okay. So I mess it up because I always say an, like you put the article in front of it. Right. I'm going to see an esthetician.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: You don't need anesthesia, so you're just going to something who helps or someone who helps with your aesthetics.
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Speaker 1: Okay, folks.
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Speaker 2: We've gone off the rails.
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Speaker 3: All right.
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Speaker 1: All right. I always appreciate you spending time. You probably wish you didn't stay to the end. But I'm TJ. That's Robes. We'll talk soon.
Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Thursday, October 29th, and a famous Hollywood actor expresses vulnerability, shame even, after getting harassed over their looks, specifically their face. This actor even had to quit social media. Well, just showed back up on social media, and in this video, he is getting a cosmetic surgery. Excuse me. Cosmetic procedure, I should call it. Hey, folks, Amy and TJ here. Clearly, I don't know what the hell I'm talking about when it comes to all this stuff. This would be deemed a cosmetic procedure, would it not?
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Speaker 2: Yes, please consult the expert here. I'm laughing. I'm no expert, but I am certainly a consumer of cosmetic procedures.
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Speaker 1: And it's clear he's not getting surgery when you see this, but the key there before I fucked up the intro was that this, when you hear it initially, and it's being talked about, Robes, and what this actor has expressed, we're talking about a guy. So much emphasis is put on women and what they look like. And we have seen even Ariana Grande step back recently because of criticism about her body. What's Millie Bobby Brown? This guy, Rose, was really vulnerable in talking about the harassment over his face is too much. Yeah. You know what?
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Speaker 2: It's one of those things. And we've been told this.
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Speaker 3: And I think anyone who has experienced or felt any sort of online shaming, when it happens to you, it truly feels in some moments like your world is imploding. And I had no idea that Barry Keoghan, who was suffering from people just harassing him over how he looked, I had no idea. It wasn't on my radar. And so it's just so interesting what people Even public people personally and privately suffer. When we're not even aware of it, it doesn't seem like a big deal to us, but it's a big deal to.
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Speaker 2: Him and to that person.
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Speaker 3: If you're coming after somebody, if you think it's funny or harmless to poke fun or make fun of how somebody looks or in any way comment on their physical appearance, you're mistaken. It doesn't matter who you are. It doesn't matter how much money you make or how big of a movie star you are.
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Speaker 1: Hurts.
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Speaker 3: And so to hear him be this vulnerable and to actually go so far as to try and do something about his appearance is just, it's sad.
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Speaker 1: It is. I mean, I don't know which part. It's sad for him. I hate he, look, and what he's doing, we should be clear, we're going to get into, he's not completely altering his look, but he is going through something very few people can afford to do. He's going through something that He's going back for a couple of sessions to do now. And Rose, this was, look, he got off social media. He gets back on, and this is what he is putting out. It's a choice he's made, but Rose, I did. Your heart breaks, and you make a point. I don't care who every single person, every single celebrity has to read this stuff or have somebody come after them. It feels this way. I guess it was unique in that he expressed it in such an open and honest way as he did, but so many of them. Feel it.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: And this comes their way.
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Speaker 3: But her big thing is no mean people allowed. She's like, the second anyone leaves any mean comment on my page, I'm off.
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Speaker 2: I'm gone.
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Speaker 3: She was like, I can't take it. And it really is one of those things where, especially when you're a public figure, you're constantly being scrutinized. But to have people weighing in on how they think you look is sometimes just too much.
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Speaker 2: It's the final straw.
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Speaker 1: But how are you supposed to? I mean, what is the trick to combating it? any of that. You have to either stay away from it, Robes, or my goodness, you have to have a hell of a defense system built up for that stuff to not impact you when the whole world is coming after you. People that don't know you, right? We all want to be liked. My problem, Robes, is that when people talking about me don't know me to make the determination of whether or not they should like me. If you know me and I ain't your cup of tea, I can stomach that. But most of these people get stuff coming It's incoming from people who have no idea who he is, where he's from, what he's about, what he's been through, what he's going through right now. You don't know any idea. This dude has been under assault overâ he has a unique look.
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Speaker 2: He has a unique look.
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Speaker 1: Okay. So do a lot of actors.
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Speaker 3: A lot of them are character actors, and they're distinctive and memorable, and we love them. We'll go throughâ actually, we were kind ofâ you were going through some names of actors we love who.
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Speaker 2: Do have a unique look.
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Speaker 3: And part of that is perhaps the secret sauce to their magic. Yes, they're all talented actors, but when you have a unique face, you're memorable.
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Speaker 1: He's unique, yes.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can play some memorable characters in a way someone who might be generically attractive couldn't.
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Speaker 1: And he has been in big movies. Salt Burn was the big one we got to know him for. He's starring in the latest season of Peaky, the last one of Peaky Blinders. He's Irish, right?
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Speaker 2: He's an Irish actor, Barry Keoghan. Yes.
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Speaker 1: But this role he's got now, Robes, he's this new, I didn't realize they're doing it in four parts, this Beatles bio they're doing. He plays Ringo.
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Speaker 3: Oh, wow.
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Speaker 1: Okay.
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Speaker 2: That makes sense.
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Speaker 1: They're doing, this is a four-part movie. And each movie is going to focus on a different Beatle.
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Speaker 2: Oh, that's really cool.
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Speaker 1: He gets Ringo. Rose, that's not a small deal. The dude is clearly talented and is working in Hollywood. Whatever his face is, somebody digs it.
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Speaker 2: Yes, he dated Sabrina Carpenter, for God's sakes.
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Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 3: And so he's 34 years old, so he's not some aging, older actor. Look, a lot of women, I think the difference with this story may be then, I think if a woman had put this out there, it wouldn't have made the same kind of splash or headlines.
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Speaker 2: Seeing that a young man.
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Speaker 3: A 34-year-old actor who we all know from some of these movies, to know that he's actually going through some expensive treatments.
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Speaker 2: Now, I will say, my ears.
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Speaker 3: perked up because, yes, I'm always interested in non-invasive procedures that can actually make you look refreshed.
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Speaker 2: Or younger or help with sagging skin.
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Speaker 3: And he actually went on social media talking about a treatment I had never even heard of before.
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Speaker 1: Is it Zurf?
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Speaker 2: I think it's Zurf is what it's called. And from the website, a Zurf.
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Speaker 3: Treatment is advanced radio frequency technology that delivers controlled energy and different layers of the skin to support tightening and collagen renewal. You know, this is my cup of tea because I'm not, I don't like to do the fillers or anything like that. But what I do like to do is tighten my skin and have collagen renewal. So yes, I have gone through plenty of painful and expensive non-invasive procedures to avoid, you know, some of the other options that people have.
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Speaker 2: And it, this is, this is one I hadn't heard of before.
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Speaker 1: But the context for it, if you can help with context, this is, I mean, I see it, It looks simple. It's not painful. It's just going on. But for what it purports to do, is this some advanced technology, new technology, a different version of stuff people are already getting?
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Speaker 3: What?
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Speaker 2: A lot of this is.
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Speaker 3: newer because look, I think before people always knew about Botox and they know about fillers, but a lot of people don't want to do either one of those things and they don't like needles. And I thought this was pretty, pretty cool because there is non-surgical, there are no needles and there's no numbing cream. You know, I go every couple of months to my anesthetician and, and you're like, how long are you going to be there? I'm like, well, they have to numb me for an hour because I do a lot of microneedling. That's my jam. And if you don't get numbed, it's painful. And yes, there's little needles that go in and basically try to disrupt your skin so that your body has a response and sends collagen and tightens your skin and renews it and makes it look more youthful, but it doesn't change your appearance. This apparently is not painful, no numbing cream, no needles, and it does kind of do the same thing.
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Speaker 2: It tightens and lifts. your skin.
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Speaker 3: Okay.
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Speaker 1: When you go to your doctor, what do you call them? An esthetician. I mean, is this the lobby full of guys? No, it's all women. Is, but are there, is this something that sort of forget the Hollywood part? Is this something that's a guy going in for a specialized skin tightening thing like this where you go, Hmm, I mean, no big deal, but do you go, Oh, a guy?
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Speaker 3: Uh, well it is unusual, I would say, but someone who's, whose face is on camera, uh, makes that makes total sense i totally get that and i look it this doesn't change how you look it doesn't change your appearance it just makes you look tighter and more refreshed and if you have some sagging skin and look genetics are a huge look irish skin is notably not known for its elasticity and thickness so i get it like i really oh yes oh irish english uh you know all of that uk europeans.
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Speaker 1: It's not known for its what like.
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Speaker 2: Thick, buoyant skin.
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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm as white as they come, 100% European. And so yes, we're always fighting our genetics when it comes to skin aesthetics. And so yes, Irish skin, people have joked about, yes, it's not meant for the sun. It doesn't necessarily age as well as some others.
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Speaker 2: And so I get it.
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Speaker 3: He's 34, but he's, look, he's tightening up his skin.
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Speaker 2: But the That's not the sad thing. I think that's empowering.
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Speaker 3: And I think that's wonderful, taking advantage of new technology to just refresh your skin. But it is sad to think that he's doing it because he was bullied online for how he looked that is what is sad it's not sad that he's empowering himself to look like his best version and he has the money to do that amazing it's the fact that he did it it seems like because he was being harassed and bullied for his.
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Speaker 1: Looks how much is the thing you do.
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Speaker 3: Uh, you know what? I try not to think about it, but I think I end up, I end up getting a package of three sessions with the micro needling.
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Speaker 2: And I also do PRP. I'm more, I try to be fully transparent.
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Speaker 3: That's a vampire facial where they actually take your blood, separate your plasma and inject your plasma. Again, it's just about trying to use your own, um, I guess DNA.
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Speaker 1: Whatever's comparable to this. How much is this?
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Speaker 2: Well, I pay like 1500 bucks a session, I believe.
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Speaker 1: What that does the three package do?
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Speaker 3: Yeah. And when you do the package, you get, you get like 20% off. So however that amounts.
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Speaker 2: To, but it's expensive.
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Speaker 1: So this sounds right. Then he gets two sessions for six grand.
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Speaker 2: I mean, that's expensive.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's exactly what it's not.
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Speaker 3: I got three sessions for 4,500 probably with 20% off.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm, you know, but yes, it's several grand for sure.
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Speaker 1: Two sessions. I didn't actually see. Did you see how long the sessions go? I didn't see it.
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Speaker 3: I did actually look it up. I looked up the Zerfin. It's 30 to 60 minutes. And look, the sensation is gentle, sustained warmth. And the cool thing is there's no side effects.
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Speaker 2: There's no bruising. There's no redness.
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Speaker 3: If there is a little mild redness, it fades within hours. There's no recovery necessary. Look what I do with the microneedling.
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Speaker 2: You've seen it.
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Speaker 3: Sometimes you do get bruising. You do have redness. There is some swelling. There is some downtime. This kind of looks amazing because it's just, they say the thing that it's most like, except for Morpheus uses little natals, but Morpheus 8, I did that as well once as well because the Kardashians have talked about it, which again uses the same kind of wavelength like the radio frequency technology, but it's combined with needles too. So honestly, he's doing a much less invasive thing than a lot of women do.
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Speaker 2: All the time.
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Speaker 1: And folks, the reason this has got our attention and getting a lot of people's attention is not because we want to highlight, wow, there's this great new cosmetic procedure you can get that's doing gangbusters. It's that Robes combined with what he did or what he said just months ago about his appearance and how he was feeling about his appearance. To see him do this today is making headlines. It is getting attention. What to do with it from... No, no, no. I don't... A lot of guys, even this woman who does this, she owns a... It's in London, actually. Derma Spa. She's a beauty expert. Nylem Holmes is her name, actually. But she has other famous clients. Among them, Nicole Scherzinger, Chris Appleton, Rosie Huntington, Whitley. Or is it Whitley? I think it's Whitley. She's the one who's been engaged to Jason Statham since, what, 2005?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, gorgeous model, actress. Yes.
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Speaker 1: They've been engaged like 10 years.
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Speaker 2: They're making it work.
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Speaker 1: They're making it work.
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Speaker 3: So.
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Speaker 1: Um, he's heard in this video, she says she's worked with him for a little while, but you hear his voice. He's doing a voiceover. It looks like he's doing a solid for, I don't know if he got this session for free, but it looks like he was doing a commercial for him.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Um, he, in the, um, he, he narrates basically the video of her doing this procedure on him.
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Speaker 2: And by the way, I will say he looks fabulous.
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Speaker 3: Um, but he said, I feel better about myself.
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Speaker 2: I look better.
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Speaker 3: And I think it's important to look after yourself both inside and outside.
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Speaker 2: And I get that. Look, I am all about the look good, feel good method.
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Speaker 3: And that involves from exercise to what you put in your body to how much sleep you get at night.
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Speaker 2: All of that's important.
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Speaker 3: And yes, when you get to a certain point, I too have looked for less invasive ways to try and stay looking younger and fresher.
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Speaker 1: Well, this is what he said just a short time ago, a few months ago, about his looks that certainly got a lot of people's attention. He did this in a radio interview, actually, saying, and I quote, there's a lot of hate online. There's a lot of abuse of how I look. And it's kind of past the point of, you know, everyone goes through that. It's made me shy away. It's made me really go inside myself, not want to attend places, not want to go outside. It's becoming a problem.
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Speaker 2: That's heartbreaking.
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Speaker 1: That's a hell of an admission. I'm an actor. I've been in blockbusters. I've been in hit shows. And I don't want to go outside and show my face because you all are making me feel a certain way about it. It's tough to be, Robes, when you're, no matter how confident of a person you are, if all you're seeing overwhelmingly are really hateful, mean words just about how you look. I don't know how you can, all you can do is avoid it. But I don't know how you, who's strong enough to go, yeah, whatever, man.
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Speaker 2: Yes, easy to say, very hard to actually implement.
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Speaker 3: He actually went on to say, I actually don't go to places because of these things. When that starts leaking into your art, it becomes a problem because you don't even want to be on screen anymore.
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Speaker 1: That would be a shame. That would be a shame. It reminds me of this thing they said about Michael Jordan when he was getting so much press and they were criticizing him for this and his gambling. At one point, they just came after him. Someone said in that documentary, You all are going to run him right out of this league. Like, he's just exhausted. When I hear him say this, like, how close is he getting? Does he want to not take roles? Does he not even like what he's doing anymore? It's creeping into my art that I don't even want to be outside. Just hope it doesn't. He's obviously a talented dude. But that line was a little scary.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because it goes to show if you're so self-conscious about you, look, because of what other people are sending you and saying about you, it's distracting as an actor. You can't be in.
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Speaker 3: Your head about your aesthetics when you're trying to actually artfully recreate and portray someone else. I can totally get how that would be, like there's no other way to put it, a total mindfuck.
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Speaker 2: And that insecurity can be so devastating.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: But stay here, folks. That was that recent interview he did for radio. But it was actually in 2024 when he put out a message saying he was getting off social media and he explained why. We'll let you hear that. Also, we had a few names to throw at you. There are plenty of actors out there that are doing really well. Got some pretty unique looks.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back, everyone, to Amy and TJ. We're talking about Barry Keoghan, 34-year-old Irish actor. You know him if you've watched Salt Burn, Peaky Blinders. He's got some big projects coming up, including playing Ringo for the Beatles, and he's He's in.
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Speaker 1: The Batman sequel that we mentioned as well. That's a big deal.
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Speaker 3: Yes, that's a huge deal. And so, look, he got off social media. We saw him narrate, and we see him receiving a treatment about tightening his skin.
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Speaker 2: He's talking about it.
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Speaker 3: And, yes, as you pointed out, did a solid for Nylem Holmes, who was doing the treatment on him, the Zurf treatment. And, yes, that was interesting and made headlines. But what's beneath those headlines is what is soâ heartbreaking and fascinating at the same time. And I just think it should be eye-opening. I just believe a lot of people think certain stars or certain people, if you're in the public eye and you chose that profession, you should have skin made of Teflon.
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Speaker 2: Well, guess what? We're all human beings. And Barry Keoghan is among them. And he actually, when he quit social media.
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Speaker 3: He put out a post in 2024 that you have to really read and let it sink in. And just maybe this will make some folks think twice before they fire off a comment about how somebody looks.
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Speaker 1: We can hope, but they won't. Why are you attacking anybody over how they look? I'm trying to think of what I could, like, even if I felt it, I would say it to you. I won't go online and say to them directly. You know what I've said to guys? Have you ever told, I only said something about somebody's appearance before to help them out. And privately. How do you go?
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Speaker 2: Like you've got something in your teeth or something like that?
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Speaker 1: I've done that. Robes, I've gone up to guys who forgot to undo the vent on the back of their jacket and said, hey, man, you might want to catch that.
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's just a helpful.
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Speaker 1: That's helpful. Hey, man, you got something right there. You didn't take that. Hey, your hair, you got a piece missing right there. Your tie's not straight. I mean, I've tried to help people. I've never just looked at someone and said, man, you look a mess. I mean, you need to fix that.
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Speaker 2: But even saying to someone's face is different than writing about them anonymously or making some horrible comment. I remember I got trolled when I was on MSNBC for the longest time by this woman. And I'll be honest, and you've pointed it out to me and we've laughed about it. I never noticed, but I have my collarbone.
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Speaker 3: I have like two points on my shoulder that are raised and they stick out a little bit. I never even noticed it. This woman was just like, your disgusting bones are sticking out. And then I became kind of obsessed with it and I didn't want to wear certain dresses.
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Speaker 2: And I thought, wait a minute, this is crazy.
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Speaker 1: And that's one lady, by the way.
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Speaker 2: That's one lady.
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Speaker 3: But I'm just saying that you can change what you wear. You can change how you operate, how you feel about yourself based on one person just going after you about a certain feature or something they don't like about you.
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Speaker 2: And what he wrote was just heartbreaking.
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Speaker 1: He wrote, I can only sit and take so much. My name has been dragged. across the internet in ways I usually don't respond to. I have to respond now because it's getting to a place where there are too many lines being crossed. I deactivated my account because I can no longer let this stuff distract from my family and my work. The messages I have received, no person should ever have to read them. Absolute lies, hatred, disgusting commentary about my apparent character, how I am as a parent, and every other inhumane thing you can imagine. Oh, gross, this... And he has a son. I don't see the age. I assume fairly young. But he's spoken before about the idea, like, my kid is going to read the stuff about his dad on the Internet.
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Speaker 2: Yes, I saw that.
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Speaker 1: And the things people are saying about his dad. It's just, that's the message. So that was the message from, I guess, when it first got on our radar. And then, of course, he did that interview. Robes, I don't, I have a list here in front of you. But you could come up with some. I think everybody can off the top of their head. actors who just have unique and even strange looks but how cool is.
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Speaker 3: That you know i think it's great every single person is unique and but to think that someone like barry keoghan is dealing with this yeah unique looks you you came uh remy malik that yes he does have a very unique.
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Speaker 1: Look absolutely he's a egyptian right yes i believe he won the oscar for the then you have to wear the fake teeth.
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Speaker 2: Yes, he did. Freddie Mercury.
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Speaker 1: Freddie Mercury. So even that made him look weird when he got famous. Yes. Really famous. That's how we got to know him. So yeah.
00:21:09
Speaker 2: And Steve Buscemi, that's one of your favorites.
00:21:11
Speaker 1: Oh, Steve Buscemi. He never got the tooth fixed, babe. He has that tooth sticking out. He is a very creepy looking dude. No offense, but it works for him.
00:21:19
Speaker 2: William Dafoe, another one.
00:21:21
Speaker 1: Has he ever been anything other than that look? He just... Yes. He has a unique look. I don't want to sound offensive, but he has a... A unique, creepy look to him.
00:21:31
Speaker 3: Yes, which allows him to play specific characters. And you know what's so funny is we love House of the Dragon. Not sure if any of you all listening watch it, but it is fantastic. And one of the main characters, and it's funny, I had no idea he had such a. generic name right because he has such a distinctive look but his name is matt smith which that makes me laugh i still can't believe that's his name but if you google that in house of the dragon you'll know exactly who we're talking about he is such a wildly talented actor we love him in this series.
00:22:03
Speaker 1: And he is the way he looks making makes him perfect for that role it's perfect i And so, yeah, he stands out. But even he has a look in the way he carries himself in such a confident way that he's handsome.
00:22:16
Speaker 2: He's sexy.
00:22:17
Speaker 3: Yes.
00:22:17
Speaker 2: He is absolutely sexy. And not the traditional good-looking guy, but he is sexy and powerful and all of that.
00:22:24
Speaker 1: And perfect. And if anybody knows the Conjuring series, in particular the Nun and the Nun 2 robes, That's how she looks.
00:22:32
Speaker 2: Bonnie Arons. But also, one of our favorites, Drag Me to Hell.
00:22:36
Speaker 3: She plays that evil, old witch of a woman who haunts the main character in Drag Me to Hell.
00:22:43
Speaker 2: You know how much we love that movie. But Bonnie Arons. And yeah, you Google her. She has a very unique look. And it's witch-like.
00:22:53
Speaker 1: What else are you supposed to say? I thought, well, when I first saw her, I kind of remember how I looked it up. I think I was a fascination. How did they get that? none to look that way. It's a very unique look. They found the actress they wanted. Not a whole lot. She looks like that.
00:23:09
Speaker 2: It's pretty incredible.
00:23:10
Speaker 1: She does.
00:23:11
Speaker 2: And you even point out Owen Wilson.
00:23:13
Speaker 3: He's got, you know, the nose, the bump in the nose. He's got the, Patrick Wilson is his brother, but Owen's got that distinctive, unique look. And that's what, it's part of what makes them I think that's how they bring some of their characters to life by using their own cleft palate.
00:23:33
Speaker 1: The Joker. What's his name? Oh, yes, yes.
00:23:37
Speaker 3: Oh, my God.
00:23:37
Speaker 2: Now I can't think of his name.
00:23:39
Speaker 1: Phoenix.
00:23:40
Speaker 2: Phoenix.
00:23:40
Speaker 1: Joaquin.
00:23:41
Speaker 2: Joaquin Phoenix. And, yes, he has a cleft palate.
00:23:44
Speaker 1: And he has an Oscar.
00:23:46
Speaker 2: And he has an Oscar.
00:23:47
Speaker 1: He sure does. So, if anything, I'm rooting for this dude. Barry Keoghan if you don't know the name right off the top of your head and you see his face you're going to go oh yeah because you've seen something he's in but also you're going to go oh yeah that's an unmistakable face and Peaky Blinders is it about Where are theâ is it Irish Gangs?
00:24:06
Speaker 2: It's Irish Gangs.
00:24:07
Speaker 1: Heâ nobody else can play that role. He fits right in. It's perfect. Perfectly.
00:24:12
Speaker 3: I've watchedâ it's a long time ago. I watched a couple episodes. I just didn't have the time to keep watching. It is a phenomenal series.
00:24:19
Speaker 1: Gillian Murphy?
00:24:20
Speaker 3: Yes.
00:24:20
Speaker 1: He leads that thing?
00:24:21
Speaker 2: So good. So good.
00:24:23
Speaker 3: So, yes, hopefully we can all give him some love, be a little bit kinder after the story, and I guarantee you Zerf treatments. I have a feeling a lot of people are going to be calling their anestheticians or looking for their local med spa to see if they too can get a Zerf treatment. I did say it seemed like a little less expensive in some areas. Depends on where you are.
00:24:44
Speaker 2: The $ 3, 000 to $ 6, 000 was on the higher end, I believe. I saw some for like $ 4, 000. But still, it's an expensive procedure.
00:24:51
Speaker 1: The same treatment.
00:24:51
Speaker 2: Yes, but I went online immediately and looked at the before and afters. It's pretty impressive.
00:24:56
Speaker 1: It better be for six grand.
00:24:59
Speaker 3: Agreed.
00:25:00
Speaker 1: Well, I wouldn't even know where to start. If I needed an esthetician or something else, a med spa, would you say?
00:25:05
Speaker 3: Yeah, you go into these. Yes, some people go to dermatologists, but there are so many med spas. Well, a dermatologist is an MD, and they can also screen for skin cancer and be surgical.
00:25:16
Speaker 2: But a lot of these anestheticians, they're all trained and trained.
00:25:20
Speaker 3: Credentialed but yes they have these med spas all over the country and they become wildly popular from.
00:25:25
Speaker 1: Botox are they the ones that do botox.
00:25:27
Speaker 3: Yes they do all i guess and dermatologists won't yeah they do okay they do too but it tends to be a little bit less expensive oftentimes in these med spas because you aren't getting an md but someone i always think someone who's you want md well but no because mds are focused on a lot of life-saving treatments and i would my experience has been if you actually pick an anesthetician who does nothing but certain procedures They're going to be experts at it.
00:25:51
Speaker 2: They go and they get trained. They get licensed. They're board certified.
00:25:53
Speaker 1: Dermatologist isn't? I don't prefer having somebody with an MD put a needle in my face.
00:25:58
Speaker 2: They don't do those procedures every day.
00:26:00
Speaker 3: I'd rather have somebody who does nothing but that and knows exactly what they're doing when it comes to a cosmetic procedure.
00:26:06
Speaker 1: I went right to Krista Pike when you said that. I don't need somebody doing this every day. Isn't that the complaint?
00:26:11
Speaker 3: Yes.
00:26:11
Speaker 1: They don't know how to do this. Somebody's not trained to find it.
00:26:14
Speaker 3: I want somebody who focuses solely on cosmetic procedures, and I'll go to the dermatologist to check moles and look for skin cancer and anything that's medical. But when it comes to cosmetics, I prefer somebody who does that very procedure every single day.
00:26:27
Speaker 1: I've never been to a dermatologist or an esthetician. Well, how do you even say it?
00:26:31
Speaker 2: Esthetician. Wait, it's esthetician.
00:26:34
Speaker 1: It's an esthetician. That's where I messed it up.
00:26:37
Speaker 2: Yes, now I'm confused.
00:26:38
Speaker 1: It's esthetician.
00:26:39
Speaker 2: An esthetician.
00:26:40
Speaker 1: No. An esthetician.
00:26:42
Speaker 2: Aesthetician, right? Now I'm confused.
00:26:46
Speaker 1: The esthetician works here. Is that correct?
00:26:49
Speaker 3: Yes.
00:26:49
Speaker 2: It's an esthetician.
00:26:53
Speaker 1: Huh?
00:26:53
Speaker 2: Aesthetician.
00:26:54
Speaker 1: Okay. So I mess it up because I always say an, like you put the article in front of it. Right. I'm going to see an esthetician.
00:27:00
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:27:00
Speaker 3: You don't need anesthesia, so you're just going to something who helps or someone who helps with your aesthetics.
00:27:06
Speaker 1: Okay, folks.
00:27:08
Speaker 2: We've gone off the rails.
00:27:09
Speaker 3: All right.
00:27:09
Speaker 1: All right. I always appreciate you spending time. You probably wish you didn't stay to the end. But I'm TJ. That's Robes. We'll talk soon.