April 19, 2026
“A Threat To National Security”; Kash Patel’s FBI Colleagues Report Excessive Drinking and Unexplained Absences
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RSS Feed “The Atlantic” has published an article sourcing multiple current and former officials within the FBI that details deeply concerning behavior from Director Kash Patel. The reported behavior includes excessive drinking to the point that meetings have to be rescheduled and equipment was requested to break down locked doors to gain access to him when he can’t be woken up when he is needed. Patel has reacted forcefully on social media, denying the reports and threatening a lawsuit. Patel’s lawyers published the letter they sent “The Atlantic” saying the article is one of the most absurd things they’ve ever read.
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Speaker 1: Hey there, folks.
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Speaker 2: It is Sunday, April nineteenth, and a very prominent member of the Trump administration is following in Trump's footsteps and is now threatening to sue a news outlet. That news outlet published an article that essentially called him well a drunk.
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Speaker 1: With that welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Romp.
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Speaker 2: That's not an oversimplification or a classification of this. This is essentially what this Atlantic article says.
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Speaker 3: Not only do they say he's a drunk, and this is purported from his colleagues, people who work with him, who have spoken off the record, but they also say he's a threat to national security.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you had an FBI director who's drunk and who you can't get a hold of, which is some of the stuff they detail, Bro, Some of the stuff is.
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Speaker 1: A little scary. It's jaw dropping. Yeah, you and I worked.
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Speaker 2: With a colleague you're going to of course, a colleague that they used to joke around in the news business said, you know what, if you can't do this job drunk, you shouldn't do it at all.
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Speaker 1: Okay, that's funny if you're a photographer.
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Speaker 3: Yes, Robes, it's not funny when you are the director of the FBI. You are in charge of making sure that criminals are off our streets and that the homeland is protected.
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Speaker 1: We're at war, by the way, We're at war, yes.
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Speaker 3: And so to hear these very specific, detailed and regular occurrences, as related by people who know him, work with him, and see him daily, this is deeply concerned.
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Speaker 2: It is so we should say, first of all, and we will let you know the responses from FBI Director Cash Bettel that he is denying all of this. They threatened if you even put this article up, we will sue. The article did go up, we will see what happens. But robes the article the Atlantic, we should report this is being reported by Her name is Sarah Fitzpatrick is the reporter there? And look, the title kind of says it all. The FBI director is m. I. A. Cash Bettel has alarmed colleagues with episodes of excessive drinking and unexplained absences. All right, you obviously you can't. There are some jobs robes that are important enough. You can't just go have a glass of wine and chill.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go lay it down.
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Speaker 2: You are twenty four hours. You have to be available because decisions have to get made.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, physicians, pilots, there are some jobs where, yes, you cannot drink excessively period because you don't know when the next emergency is going to happen.
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Speaker 4: You don't know when you're going to be called on next.
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Speaker 3: This isn't a nine to five job where you can clock in and clock out.
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Speaker 1: That's very, very true, and they are.
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Speaker 2: There are some suggestions that we're gonna let you hear that he treated this not just like a nine to five job in some instances, Robes, or he treated like any other job, any regular job, and this.
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Speaker 3: Is like a one pm to four pm shift maybe some Yeah, he likes to sleep in apparently, and.
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Speaker 1: He likes to be done working before happy hour.
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Speaker 2: Are the accusations will let you here at all, But Robes, this is the guy that look somewhere. We're just waiting for the announcement. Folks are watching True Social After Pam Bondi, after Christino, they thought this dude was gonna be next.
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Speaker 3: And according to the Atlantic, he thought he was next. And he still thinks he is, and honestly so do a lot of his colleagues.
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Speaker 2: So the point of paranoia is what they describe now they are described, and Roodes, I get this to a certain degree. Everybody here and there's a lot of sourcing, but still not names put to a lot of this sourcing. He describes this as a hit piece.
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Speaker 1: I mean some of it. It, I mean, he takes a lot of hits.
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Speaker 3: Look, you and I know from a reporter standpoint, you don't print something like this with just one or two sources. And in some of these specific instances that are relayed, she head up to nine sources.
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Speaker 4: Saying the same thing to me.
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Speaker 3: That is telling, and that is this is an exceptional She made sure this journalist if this wasn't just a couple of bits of gossip or hearsay, this was extremely well vetted, at least according to what she puts out as her sources. And again they're not named, but they are plentiful, And Robes.
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Speaker 2: One of the things that scares a news organization more than anything was what getting sued and the threat of being sued. So I'm reporting, yeah, and it shuts down a bunch of reporters.
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Speaker 3: It has shut down plenty of both of our reporting that have been has been very frustrating. Just the idea that they could get sued makes a lot of news organizations back down and back away and drop a story. And especially with this administration, who has proven that they don't just say they're going to sue you, they actually sue you. And that does cost these news organizations, whether they're in the right or not, millions of dollars that they don't have that they do not have with dwindling audiences and dwindling readership. So this is a huge thing for a news organization to put out an article like this knowing that they almost certainly will be sued.
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Speaker 2: So that is a very good and that I think n to the credibility. Again, we're used to sourcing. Somebody has three sources. These folks have eight nine and a lot of stuff they're doing and dealing with the administration.
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Speaker 3: It was notable to see just her what she put out as how often and how many folks were willing to tell her these stories.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, they are threatening to sue. We'll let you know about the letter that the attorney for Cashpertel did send, but we'll get into this article Robe you did talk about at the beginning, he's paranoid. They tail detail an instance at the opening of this article in which he essentially started calling people freaking out that he had just been fired. And all it was was he had an error. He couldn't log into something, and he thought his access had been shut down to whatever his system was on his computer. And they said this was a is it flip out or freak out? Yeah, they describe it out.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, they said it was almost like a panic attack.
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Speaker 3: He to call that many people and basically blurt out, I'm being fired, I'm being fired.
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Speaker 4: I can't log in. That is bizarre.
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Speaker 2: Okay, So they opened with that. But then this initial line and we're trying to this kind of set it all up. But this initial line they had robes, let you know the direction this article, which is a fairly long article, which direction this thing was about to go. Well, so the first excerpt heier that tells us anything is but Patel, according to multiple current officials as well as former officials who have stayed close to him, is deeply concerned that his job is in jeopardy. He has good reasons to think so, including some having to do with witnesses described to me as bouts of excessive drinking. Now that sets it up, That gets your attention, this was early on. We're like, WHOA, what's about to happen here? And robes they go through now and detail and detail and have the type of drinking look. People can have their own opinions about how intoxicated somebody is, but they have names and locations of places where he is known to have done this, and robes. Again, we're talking about the FBI director.
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Speaker 4: This is so disturbing.
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Speaker 3: And they said, it's not just the conspicuous inebriation, which is how they describe it, but it's also his unexplained absences that those two in connection with each other. Yeah, that's not what you want from any official at any job, but especially the director of the FBI. It's interesting because a lot of these instances that have been detailed in this article were in.
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Speaker 4: Public settings in front of a lot of people.
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Speaker 3: This wasn't something he's doing privately that he's hiding and he's drinking under his desk with a flask in his suit. No, he is going out to very public venues, surrounded by people who he works with and apparently getting shit.
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Speaker 1: Faced, and they call it alarming. Quote.
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Speaker 2: They said that the problems with his conduct go well beyond what has been previously known, and include both conspicuous ineberation and unexplained absences. His behavior has often alarmed officials at the FBI and Justice Department, even as he won support from the White House for his eager participation in Trump's effort to turn federal law enforcement against the president's perceived political enemies. But this sounds like a will, like they're they're willing to tolerate some of the bs because he is being more loyal than maybe some others in the administration.
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Speaker 3: Yes, and look, it's funny, because I should it's not funny. But when you first told me about this article about cash Pattel, I was thinking this was going to be more about his bad decisions, his quick response to emerging situations where he would say things that weren't true, just trying to get in front of a story or to be in front of the microphone.
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Speaker 4: I thought that's what we were going to talk about.
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Speaker 3: I had no idea this whole other situation was happening, apparently in front of everyone's eyes, and they talk about his known intoxication. According to the reporter, she says, several officials told me that Patel's drinking has been a recurring source of concern across the government. They said that he is known to drink to the point of obvious intoxication, in many cases at the private club Neds in Washington, d C. While in the presence of White House and other administration staff. He is also known to drink to excess at the Poodle Room in Las Vegas, where he frequently spends parts of his weekends. Early in his tenure, meetings and briefings had to be rescheduled for later in the day as a result of his alcohol fueled nights. Six current and former officials and others familiar with Patel's schedule told me.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's a problematic line there.
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Speaker 2: We have to we have to change our schedule because the director of the FBI has been partying.
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Speaker 1: He's hungover robes. That's uh.
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Speaker 2: And again these are accusations that Fatel and his lawyers are pushing back on.
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Speaker 1: But robes. This is a detail.
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Speaker 2: It's a bad look and it's hard to and I don't want to suggest that the report. Are they some ven vendetta against cash battel? I mean, is this important? Is this reporting important?
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Speaker 1: Robes?
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Speaker 2: Yes, on somebody else's personal life, maybe not, But robes there if the director of the FBI is drunk, which we don't know that, but it does rise to a level if you have this many people coming forward, not putting their name on it, but still going on the record to an extent here robes about this. This is not a I mean, this is concerning, and we're going to get into some of the excerpts here that do talk about this being a national security issue.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, I just had to look it up because I'm reading these these excerpts of what he has been alleged to do consistently. This isn't just a one off or a couple times a year he goes on a vender. This sounds like this is an every day or at least a frequent situation.
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Speaker 4: He's forty six years old. I had to go look up his age because I just thought, is he younger? Is he going through something? He's forty six years old?
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Speaker 1: Oh, I thought he was young.
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Speaker 4: He's forty.
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Speaker 3: He was born Yes, he was born in nineteen eighty February nineteen eighty.
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Speaker 4: He is forty six years old.
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Speaker 1: So what you're saying is he's old nothing no better.
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Speaker 3: Yes, I was trying to think Okay, maybe if he's in his I thought maybe he was in his mid thirties.
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Speaker 4: And still it's not an excuse. The job is the job.
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Speaker 3: I don't care how old you are, but it just seems even more bizarre that you're at that age still acting like that.
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Speaker 2: Okay, and again, we want to we want to continue to say that he and his lawyers are pushing back on it. We're going to absolutely include all of their comments here. But Robes one of the most concerning things, and this robe that this turns out to be true, Are you freaking kidding me? This idea that the reporter, not this idea, but this story the sources have given her and told her that there was an incident Robes in which they could not wake him up, and to the point that they were about to tear down the damn door trying to get him.
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Speaker 4: Look, babe, I don't know have you heard stories like this? I have in news.
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Speaker 3: Look we are we have had plenty of years in an industry where you have a lot of folks who work hard and play hard.
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Speaker 4: That is kind of them among a lot of journalists. It's just the way it is in a lot of newsrooms.
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Speaker 3: And I have had on more than one occasion in multiple newsrooms. We have to be up obviously very early, and live shots started at seven am. In local news, live shots started.
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Speaker 1: At five am.
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Speaker 3: And we have had situations you're on the anchor desk and you can't get a photographer or a reporter or an anchor, and we have had to go down and actually almost break down doors to get folks out of bed because they had a late night doing whatever they were doing to get them on the air.
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Speaker 4: Like you, you have also had that experience.
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Speaker 1: Again, we've never missed a live shot.
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Speaker 4: I've never missed a live shot in my life.
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Speaker 1: But there are people.
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Speaker 2: I remember this happening at ABC where a guy and they could I think he lost his job.
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Speaker 1: Ultimately, he was fairly new. They couldn't get him up.
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Speaker 2: And the other thing to add to that, Robes, is sometimes you're doing all this and you're on the West coast, the show still starts at seven am. On the East coast, it's four am for you. So you just landed last night at ten and you got to turn around and get up at one am to get prepared to be ready at four am. Robes, the idea I think about that because they were talking about him being in Vegas.
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Speaker 1: Yes, waking up in Vegas.
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Speaker 3: Yes, because it is true when you're on the West coast and you still got to be on this coast time, especially when you're the director of the FBI. Look, I'm just it reminded me of those stories. I mean, I have countless producers didn't show up. I'm left twisting in the wind because I don't have a producer because they are hungover or still drunk probably and we can't get into their hotel room.
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Speaker 2: You know, producers and reporters were the worst photographers were they were on it audio guys, they're.
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Speaker 1: Ready to go that.
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Speaker 3: Those are the folks who said, if you can't do your job drunk, if you can't do your job drunk, you shouldn't.
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Speaker 1: Do it at all.
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Speaker 3: But I have had I have had so many experience like are you kidding me anyway that this reminded me of this, because this.
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Speaker 2: Story, this is umbly, if this is true, is insane, And again we can't I'll just have to keep saying it. The director and his lawyer are pushing back on this stuff. They calling it a hit piece. We're gonna let you hear all their response. But Robes, this is just such damning stuff that keep putting in their denial.
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Speaker 3: Okay, the Atlantic rights on multiple occasions in the past year, multiple occasions. Let's just highlight that members of his security detail had difficult waking Patel because he was seemingly intoxicated. According to information supplied to Justice Department and White House officials, a request for breaching equipment normally used by swat and hostage rescue teams to quickly gain entry into buildings was made last year because Patel had been unreachable behind locked doors. According to multiple people familiar with the request, some of Patel's colleagues at the FBI worry that his personal behavior has become a threat to public safety.
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Speaker 2: I don't know how he explained that to them. But Robes, you're the FBI director. You have to be reachable, not just knocking on your door. Okay, maybe he's in the shower. No, Rodes, you don't even get that luxury. You and I have our damn phones in the shower because we've got kids. I mean, you just can't. This is not a thing. To the point we need to tear down the door. How many minutes had to go by that they were concerned enough before you asked.
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Speaker 1: Him tear down the FBI director door roads.
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Speaker 3: It's unthinkable again, jaw dropping allegations here.
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Speaker 4: And they said he's just been unreachable, they said.
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Speaker 3: Several current and formal officials told me Patel is often away or unreachable, delaying time sensitive decisions needed to advance investigations. On several occasions, An official told me Patel's delays resulted in normally unflappable agents quote losing their shit.
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Speaker 1: End quote both.
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Speaker 2: And so what you were talking about earlier, the concerns about some of the missteps he's made publicly. The article does make a suggestion that alcohol was related to one of This might have been the biggest public mistep you may.
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Speaker 3: I mean, this is really really concerning, because we were scratching our heads. How could the FBI director say something that was completely false?
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Speaker 4: Why would he go.
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Speaker 3: On Twitter if he wasn't one hundred percent sure that they had caught the assassination the guy responsible for the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Why would he go on and say that? Okay, so here's what they wrote about this. Officials told me Ptel's alcohol use goes far beyond the occasional beer. FBI officials and others in the administration have privately questioned whether alcohol played a role in the instances in which he shared inaccurate information about active law enforcement investigation, including following the murder of Charlie Kirk.
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Speaker 1: No proof of that at all.
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Speaker 2: That it's a damning, damning that is awful, the suggestion of that. I don't know how unfair it is, how irresponsible it is, but I wouldn't call this type of reporting irresponsible necessarily knowing what they're up against to say something like that that the FBI director was possibly drunk or hungover, or alcohol played any role in him making such a big public mistake on one of the most frankly important stories we had of the year last year.
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Speaker 3: It's deeply disturbing, and I am curious this is You know, this is interesting because because obviously you've mentioned his loyalty to President Trump. The President Trump doesn't drink, and I wonder how much he would tolerate like an article like this. You can call it a hit job whatever you want, but if he does his own digging and has his own team asked, are these actual real concerns among FBI agents and those who work with him and around him, and if he gets the answer, yes, I can't imagine President Trump tolerating this.
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Speaker 2: All right, Well, well stay here. We told you Patel had a response. He had several responses, several strong responses, even a response that came through his lawyer and a long letter. Will explain to you what he is saying about this athletic. Excuse me, say, Atlantic, Atlantic, Well, the Athletic just.
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Speaker 1: Did an article on what was that one? The athletic was the Athletic did an article.
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Speaker 4: That Diana Rossini and Mike rabel Man.
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Speaker 2: We made it through fifteen minutes without me screwing that up until this break. All right, stay here, we'll tell you what Patel's response to all this was there. All right, continue here on this Amy and TJ wants you to know what cash Betel's response has been. Roes, He had a couple of responses online. Folks, you take these for what they are, well, just let you hear them and you come to your own conclusions.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 3: So Cash Battel, director of the FBI, went on to x and tweeted this memo to the fake news The only time I'll ever actually be concerned about the hit piece lies you write about me will be when you stop keep talking. It means I'm doing exactly what I should be doing, and no amount of bs you write will ever deter this FBI from making America safe again and taking down the criminals.
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Speaker 4: You love.
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Speaker 1: You put a little stink on it when you well that.
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Speaker 3: I feel like that's this this sessy, this X post has some attitude alongside it, so it needs to be read.
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Speaker 4: I think accordingly.
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Speaker 2: This next one that it was a separate one, I believe, but yes it was another from him.
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Speaker 3: Yes he said, see you and your entire entourage of false reporting in court, but do keep at it with the fake news actual malice standard is now what some would call a legal layup.
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Speaker 2: Wow, so that's a threat to Sue said they will do it. Another one, he said, print it all false. I'll see you in court. Bring your check book. And then but Rode we got a more detailed response from his uh, his attorney, and look, look we've we've come up against this before. But they claim that they were given the heads up at like two ten in the afternoon for an article that was going to be posted at four in the after.
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Speaker 4: I mean that, I'm sure that is probably true. We have had that experience as well, when you.
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Speaker 1: Have five minutes, yeah, we literally.
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Speaker 3: We had five minutes when there was a hit piece. So yes, we understand that there are instances in which it does seem unfair to have such a horrific piece being said about you and you've been given a very limited amount of time to respond.
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Speaker 1: So I think they had a fair argument there.
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Speaker 2: Like the rest of it, I don't know, but really, Robes, I mean, well, I don't know what you do in a situation like this, Because you can, as a news organization say okay, take your time, then your article will never get published.
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Speaker 1: You can't do that.
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Speaker 2: But something this ropes to that, that rises to this level an hour and fifty minutes to respond to explosive stuff, to get your own ducks in a row to give a comment of some kind.
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Speaker 1: I don't know where I fall on that one, Babe.
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Speaker 4: I'm not sure either. You can't give them too much time, but you.
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Speaker 1: Can't give them overnight. You can't give them a day.
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Speaker 2: You can't give them to you, Right, you got something that you think is good, So I can't wait to get it up because some of it somebody else might scoop me or something might happen. Absolutely, and that is a thing that drives this. For tabloids, it's the thing that drives it. Maybe for but I think an hour fifty if you're going to call the FBI director or drunk, two hours isn't.
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Speaker 1: A lot of times.
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Speaker 4: It's not a lot of time. I agree with that. So this is what Cash tells.
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Speaker 3: Lawyer said in a letter, it has come to light that you intend to publish an article in the Atlantic at four pm Eastern time today April seventeenth, twenty twenty six, regarding my client, which contains categorically false and defamatory assertions. Should you publish these false allegations, Director Patel will take swift legal action to uphold his reputation.
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Speaker 2: Ma, he didn't mince words, or the lawyer didn't there or oh this sound like they might be a lawsuit tomorrow or at least of this week.
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Speaker 4: Yes, maybe as soon as Monday. I would not be surprised.
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Speaker 3: The letter goes on to say, we demand that you remove and refuse to publish each of the following defamatory statements and a Ford, director Patel, and the FBI a full and reasonable.
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Speaker 4: Opportunity to respond.
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Speaker 3: The Atlantic sent FBIOPA a request for comment at two oh nine pm Eastern Time today, with a four pm Eastern time deadline. The email contains nineteen substantive claims about director Patel, most of which are false, unsourced, and facially defamatory. Per se as FBIPA.
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Speaker 4: Responded through A. D.
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Speaker 3: Williamson, the claims are one of the most absurd things I've ever read, completely false at a nearly one hundred percent clip.
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Speaker 4: I wonder, look, and that was that was very.
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Speaker 3: I mean it pat turn and it was yes, and they made it very clear that this is categorically false.
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Speaker 4: However, I thought it was interesting.
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 4: This is me reading between the lines.
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Speaker 1: Nearly all false, all love and not at all.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was some careful wording in there, and there's some lawyering, and that's fine, but it does not mean that these claims are true.
00:22:38
Speaker 1: But it starts to build robes.
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Speaker 2: The thing the problem with the stories like this is that it's in line already with something people think about Cash Betel like this reporting is all is not out of left field. It all fits into a narrative been built up and one that's recently been robed. It's been burned into our memories, in our imagery of him chugging a beer and slamming it down in the locker room during one of the those iconic moments in Olympic history for the United States of America after the men won the hockey hockey goal.
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Speaker 1: He was in that chugging beer.
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Speaker 3: It was weird, Like you got to think about it's just interesting that he doesn't consider his position to be one that well, you were not cash, But tell the dude who's forty six year old, who's super excited, you're always still the FBI director.
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Speaker 4: So yeah, I thought that was an interesting word.
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Speaker 2: Do you find the balance robes of what you're able to do and what is is still okay? Him having a beer is not against It's not the end of the world. Him celebrating with the US team is not the end of the world.
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Speaker 1: Like he's not. I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I don't know how to balance in saying to someone what he should be doing and what's a good look and what's not a good look for the FBI director. I don't know if the president's okay with then then knock yourself out. But there was reporting robes that the President wasn't okay with what happened after the USA Gold with the men him over there seemingly just kicking it. What was it he had, he had a meeting, he planned a security meeting.
00:24:06
Speaker 1: He happened to be there.
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Speaker 3: I claimed he had a security meeting that just so happened to coincide with the hockey team.
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Speaker 1: Could be true, playing yeah.
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Speaker 2: Could be true, But they're denying, they're denying it all. But this is a guy cash.
00:24:17
Speaker 3: But really.
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Speaker 1: Really shocked. I don't know why to hear that.
00:24:22
Speaker 3: That's why I had to look it up because I needed thirty four his birthday February twenty fifth, nineteen eighty man.
00:24:31
Speaker 2: All right, well we just well stand by, is what we're saying. Folks expect, I guess a lawsuit to be filed this week, Cash Hotel. But it is of concern if the person in charge robes of in large degree keeping the homeland safe at a time when we were expecting attacks from all over the place, not just missiles flying, but I mean robes at good cyber attacks and all these kinds of things that are happening now he's the guy that we need to be protecting the homeland. And an article comes out as saying he's drunk, he's in Vegas, he's at this thing, he's intoxicated at this thing.
00:25:03
Speaker 1: We can't find him to the point we.
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Speaker 2: Need to bust down a door because we can't get a hold of the freakin behide directed.
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Speaker 3: Maybe it's not true, maybe it's not true, but there is something to the fact that it feels true. You know, you see certain things. He's kind of been the butt of a lot of folks jokes and then you read these accusations and it does seemingly fit, but it doesn't mean it's true. And look, I just know when you see sourcing like that amid a threat of a lawsuit that almost assuredly will happen, that lends credibility to the Atlantics recording.
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Speaker 1: That's a good point.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, and with that everyone, we always appreciate you listening to us. Thank you as always, I'm Amy Robach alongside TJ.
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Speaker 4: Holmes. We will talk to you sot
Speaker 1: Hey there, folks.
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Speaker 2: It is Sunday, April nineteenth, and a very prominent member of the Trump administration is following in Trump's footsteps and is now threatening to sue a news outlet. That news outlet published an article that essentially called him well a drunk.
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Speaker 1: With that welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Romp.
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Speaker 2: That's not an oversimplification or a classification of this. This is essentially what this Atlantic article says.
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Speaker 3: Not only do they say he's a drunk, and this is purported from his colleagues, people who work with him, who have spoken off the record, but they also say he's a threat to national security.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, if you had an FBI director who's drunk and who you can't get a hold of, which is some of the stuff they detail, Bro, Some of the stuff is.
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Speaker 1: A little scary. It's jaw dropping. Yeah, you and I worked.
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Speaker 2: With a colleague you're going to of course, a colleague that they used to joke around in the news business said, you know what, if you can't do this job drunk, you shouldn't do it at all.
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Speaker 1: Okay, that's funny if you're a photographer.
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Speaker 3: Yes, Robes, it's not funny when you are the director of the FBI. You are in charge of making sure that criminals are off our streets and that the homeland is protected.
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Speaker 1: We're at war, by the way, We're at war, yes.
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Speaker 3: And so to hear these very specific, detailed and regular occurrences, as related by people who know him, work with him, and see him daily, this is deeply concerned.
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Speaker 2: It is so we should say, first of all, and we will let you know the responses from FBI Director Cash Bettel that he is denying all of this. They threatened if you even put this article up, we will sue. The article did go up, we will see what happens. But robes the article the Atlantic, we should report this is being reported by Her name is Sarah Fitzpatrick is the reporter there? And look, the title kind of says it all. The FBI director is m. I. A. Cash Bettel has alarmed colleagues with episodes of excessive drinking and unexplained absences. All right, you obviously you can't. There are some jobs robes that are important enough. You can't just go have a glass of wine and chill.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go lay it down.
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Speaker 2: You are twenty four hours. You have to be available because decisions have to get made.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, physicians, pilots, there are some jobs where, yes, you cannot drink excessively period because you don't know when the next emergency is going to happen.
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Speaker 4: You don't know when you're going to be called on next.
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Speaker 3: This isn't a nine to five job where you can clock in and clock out.
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Speaker 1: That's very, very true, and they are.
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Speaker 2: There are some suggestions that we're gonna let you hear that he treated this not just like a nine to five job in some instances, Robes, or he treated like any other job, any regular job, and this.
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Speaker 3: Is like a one pm to four pm shift maybe some Yeah, he likes to sleep in apparently, and.
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Speaker 1: He likes to be done working before happy hour.
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Speaker 2: Are the accusations will let you here at all, But Robes, this is the guy that look somewhere. We're just waiting for the announcement. Folks are watching True Social After Pam Bondi, after Christino, they thought this dude was gonna be next.
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Speaker 3: And according to the Atlantic, he thought he was next. And he still thinks he is, and honestly so do a lot of his colleagues.
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Speaker 2: So the point of paranoia is what they describe now they are described, and Roodes, I get this to a certain degree. Everybody here and there's a lot of sourcing, but still not names put to a lot of this sourcing. He describes this as a hit piece.
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Speaker 1: I mean some of it. It, I mean, he takes a lot of hits.
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Speaker 3: Look, you and I know from a reporter standpoint, you don't print something like this with just one or two sources. And in some of these specific instances that are relayed, she head up to nine sources.
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Speaker 4: Saying the same thing to me.
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Speaker 3: That is telling, and that is this is an exceptional She made sure this journalist if this wasn't just a couple of bits of gossip or hearsay, this was extremely well vetted, at least according to what she puts out as her sources. And again they're not named, but they are plentiful, And Robes.
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Speaker 2: One of the things that scares a news organization more than anything was what getting sued and the threat of being sued. So I'm reporting, yeah, and it shuts down a bunch of reporters.
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Speaker 3: It has shut down plenty of both of our reporting that have been has been very frustrating. Just the idea that they could get sued makes a lot of news organizations back down and back away and drop a story. And especially with this administration, who has proven that they don't just say they're going to sue you, they actually sue you. And that does cost these news organizations, whether they're in the right or not, millions of dollars that they don't have that they do not have with dwindling audiences and dwindling readership. So this is a huge thing for a news organization to put out an article like this knowing that they almost certainly will be sued.
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Speaker 2: So that is a very good and that I think n to the credibility. Again, we're used to sourcing. Somebody has three sources. These folks have eight nine and a lot of stuff they're doing and dealing with the administration.
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Speaker 3: It was notable to see just her what she put out as how often and how many folks were willing to tell her these stories.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, they are threatening to sue. We'll let you know about the letter that the attorney for Cashpertel did send, but we'll get into this article Robe you did talk about at the beginning, he's paranoid. They tail detail an instance at the opening of this article in which he essentially started calling people freaking out that he had just been fired. And all it was was he had an error. He couldn't log into something, and he thought his access had been shut down to whatever his system was on his computer. And they said this was a is it flip out or freak out? Yeah, they describe it out.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, they said it was almost like a panic attack.
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Speaker 3: He to call that many people and basically blurt out, I'm being fired, I'm being fired.
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Speaker 4: I can't log in. That is bizarre.
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Speaker 2: Okay, So they opened with that. But then this initial line and we're trying to this kind of set it all up. But this initial line they had robes, let you know the direction this article, which is a fairly long article, which direction this thing was about to go. Well, so the first excerpt heier that tells us anything is but Patel, according to multiple current officials as well as former officials who have stayed close to him, is deeply concerned that his job is in jeopardy. He has good reasons to think so, including some having to do with witnesses described to me as bouts of excessive drinking. Now that sets it up, That gets your attention, this was early on. We're like, WHOA, what's about to happen here? And robes they go through now and detail and detail and have the type of drinking look. People can have their own opinions about how intoxicated somebody is, but they have names and locations of places where he is known to have done this, and robes. Again, we're talking about the FBI director.
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Speaker 4: This is so disturbing.
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Speaker 3: And they said, it's not just the conspicuous inebriation, which is how they describe it, but it's also his unexplained absences that those two in connection with each other. Yeah, that's not what you want from any official at any job, but especially the director of the FBI. It's interesting because a lot of these instances that have been detailed in this article were in.
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Speaker 4: Public settings in front of a lot of people.
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Speaker 3: This wasn't something he's doing privately that he's hiding and he's drinking under his desk with a flask in his suit. No, he is going out to very public venues, surrounded by people who he works with and apparently getting shit.
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Speaker 1: Faced, and they call it alarming. Quote.
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Speaker 2: They said that the problems with his conduct go well beyond what has been previously known, and include both conspicuous ineberation and unexplained absences. His behavior has often alarmed officials at the FBI and Justice Department, even as he won support from the White House for his eager participation in Trump's effort to turn federal law enforcement against the president's perceived political enemies. But this sounds like a will, like they're they're willing to tolerate some of the bs because he is being more loyal than maybe some others in the administration.
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Speaker 3: Yes, and look, it's funny, because I should it's not funny. But when you first told me about this article about cash Pattel, I was thinking this was going to be more about his bad decisions, his quick response to emerging situations where he would say things that weren't true, just trying to get in front of a story or to be in front of the microphone.
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Speaker 4: I thought that's what we were going to talk about.
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Speaker 3: I had no idea this whole other situation was happening, apparently in front of everyone's eyes, and they talk about his known intoxication. According to the reporter, she says, several officials told me that Patel's drinking has been a recurring source of concern across the government. They said that he is known to drink to the point of obvious intoxication, in many cases at the private club Neds in Washington, d C. While in the presence of White House and other administration staff. He is also known to drink to excess at the Poodle Room in Las Vegas, where he frequently spends parts of his weekends. Early in his tenure, meetings and briefings had to be rescheduled for later in the day as a result of his alcohol fueled nights. Six current and former officials and others familiar with Patel's schedule told me.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's a problematic line there.
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Speaker 2: We have to we have to change our schedule because the director of the FBI has been partying.
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Speaker 1: He's hungover robes. That's uh.
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Speaker 2: And again these are accusations that Fatel and his lawyers are pushing back on.
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Speaker 1: But robes. This is a detail.
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Speaker 2: It's a bad look and it's hard to and I don't want to suggest that the report. Are they some ven vendetta against cash battel? I mean, is this important? Is this reporting important?
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Speaker 1: Robes?
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Speaker 2: Yes, on somebody else's personal life, maybe not, But robes there if the director of the FBI is drunk, which we don't know that, but it does rise to a level if you have this many people coming forward, not putting their name on it, but still going on the record to an extent here robes about this. This is not a I mean, this is concerning, and we're going to get into some of the excerpts here that do talk about this being a national security issue.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and look, I just had to look it up because I'm reading these these excerpts of what he has been alleged to do consistently. This isn't just a one off or a couple times a year he goes on a vender. This sounds like this is an every day or at least a frequent situation.
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Speaker 4: He's forty six years old. I had to go look up his age because I just thought, is he younger? Is he going through something? He's forty six years old?
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Speaker 1: Oh, I thought he was young.
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Speaker 4: He's forty.
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Speaker 3: He was born Yes, he was born in nineteen eighty February nineteen eighty.
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Speaker 4: He is forty six years old.
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Speaker 1: So what you're saying is he's old nothing no better.
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Speaker 3: Yes, I was trying to think Okay, maybe if he's in his I thought maybe he was in his mid thirties.
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Speaker 4: And still it's not an excuse. The job is the job.
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Speaker 3: I don't care how old you are, but it just seems even more bizarre that you're at that age still acting like that.
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Speaker 2: Okay, and again, we want to we want to continue to say that he and his lawyers are pushing back on it. We're going to absolutely include all of their comments here. But Robes one of the most concerning things, and this robe that this turns out to be true, Are you freaking kidding me? This idea that the reporter, not this idea, but this story the sources have given her and told her that there was an incident Robes in which they could not wake him up, and to the point that they were about to tear down the damn door trying to get him.
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Speaker 4: Look, babe, I don't know have you heard stories like this? I have in news.
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Speaker 3: Look we are we have had plenty of years in an industry where you have a lot of folks who work hard and play hard.
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Speaker 4: That is kind of them among a lot of journalists. It's just the way it is in a lot of newsrooms.
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Speaker 3: And I have had on more than one occasion in multiple newsrooms. We have to be up obviously very early, and live shots started at seven am. In local news, live shots started.
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Speaker 1: At five am.
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Speaker 3: And we have had situations you're on the anchor desk and you can't get a photographer or a reporter or an anchor, and we have had to go down and actually almost break down doors to get folks out of bed because they had a late night doing whatever they were doing to get them on the air.
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Speaker 4: Like you, you have also had that experience.
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Speaker 1: Again, we've never missed a live shot.
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Speaker 4: I've never missed a live shot in my life.
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Speaker 1: But there are people.
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Speaker 2: I remember this happening at ABC where a guy and they could I think he lost his job.
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Speaker 1: Ultimately, he was fairly new. They couldn't get him up.
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Speaker 2: And the other thing to add to that, Robes, is sometimes you're doing all this and you're on the West coast, the show still starts at seven am. On the East coast, it's four am for you. So you just landed last night at ten and you got to turn around and get up at one am to get prepared to be ready at four am. Robes, the idea I think about that because they were talking about him being in Vegas.
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Speaker 1: Yes, waking up in Vegas.
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Speaker 3: Yes, because it is true when you're on the West coast and you still got to be on this coast time, especially when you're the director of the FBI. Look, I'm just it reminded me of those stories. I mean, I have countless producers didn't show up. I'm left twisting in the wind because I don't have a producer because they are hungover or still drunk probably and we can't get into their hotel room.
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Speaker 2: You know, producers and reporters were the worst photographers were they were on it audio guys, they're.
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Speaker 1: Ready to go that.
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Speaker 3: Those are the folks who said, if you can't do your job drunk, if you can't do your job drunk, you shouldn't.
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Speaker 1: Do it at all.
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Speaker 3: But I have had I have had so many experience like are you kidding me anyway that this reminded me of this, because this.
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Speaker 2: Story, this is umbly, if this is true, is insane, And again we can't I'll just have to keep saying it. The director and his lawyer are pushing back on this stuff. They calling it a hit piece. We're gonna let you hear all their response. But Robes, this is just such damning stuff that keep putting in their denial.
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Speaker 3: Okay, the Atlantic rights on multiple occasions in the past year, multiple occasions. Let's just highlight that members of his security detail had difficult waking Patel because he was seemingly intoxicated. According to information supplied to Justice Department and White House officials, a request for breaching equipment normally used by swat and hostage rescue teams to quickly gain entry into buildings was made last year because Patel had been unreachable behind locked doors. According to multiple people familiar with the request, some of Patel's colleagues at the FBI worry that his personal behavior has become a threat to public safety.
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Speaker 2: I don't know how he explained that to them. But Robes, you're the FBI director. You have to be reachable, not just knocking on your door. Okay, maybe he's in the shower. No, Rodes, you don't even get that luxury. You and I have our damn phones in the shower because we've got kids. I mean, you just can't. This is not a thing. To the point we need to tear down the door. How many minutes had to go by that they were concerned enough before you asked.
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Speaker 1: Him tear down the FBI director door roads.
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Speaker 3: It's unthinkable again, jaw dropping allegations here.
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Speaker 4: And they said he's just been unreachable, they said.
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Speaker 3: Several current and formal officials told me Patel is often away or unreachable, delaying time sensitive decisions needed to advance investigations. On several occasions, An official told me Patel's delays resulted in normally unflappable agents quote losing their shit.
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Speaker 1: End quote both.
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Speaker 2: And so what you were talking about earlier, the concerns about some of the missteps he's made publicly. The article does make a suggestion that alcohol was related to one of This might have been the biggest public mistep you may.
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Speaker 3: I mean, this is really really concerning, because we were scratching our heads. How could the FBI director say something that was completely false?
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Speaker 4: Why would he go.
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Speaker 3: On Twitter if he wasn't one hundred percent sure that they had caught the assassination the guy responsible for the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Why would he go on and say that? Okay, so here's what they wrote about this. Officials told me Ptel's alcohol use goes far beyond the occasional beer. FBI officials and others in the administration have privately questioned whether alcohol played a role in the instances in which he shared inaccurate information about active law enforcement investigation, including following the murder of Charlie Kirk.
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Speaker 1: No proof of that at all.
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Speaker 2: That it's a damning, damning that is awful, the suggestion of that. I don't know how unfair it is, how irresponsible it is, but I wouldn't call this type of reporting irresponsible necessarily knowing what they're up against to say something like that that the FBI director was possibly drunk or hungover, or alcohol played any role in him making such a big public mistake on one of the most frankly important stories we had of the year last year.
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Speaker 3: It's deeply disturbing, and I am curious this is You know, this is interesting because because obviously you've mentioned his loyalty to President Trump. The President Trump doesn't drink, and I wonder how much he would tolerate like an article like this. You can call it a hit job whatever you want, but if he does his own digging and has his own team asked, are these actual real concerns among FBI agents and those who work with him and around him, and if he gets the answer, yes, I can't imagine President Trump tolerating this.
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Speaker 2: All right, Well, well stay here. We told you Patel had a response. He had several responses, several strong responses, even a response that came through his lawyer and a long letter. Will explain to you what he is saying about this athletic. Excuse me, say, Atlantic, Atlantic, Well, the Athletic just.
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Speaker 1: Did an article on what was that one? The athletic was the Athletic did an article.
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Speaker 4: That Diana Rossini and Mike rabel Man.
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Speaker 2: We made it through fifteen minutes without me screwing that up until this break. All right, stay here, we'll tell you what Patel's response to all this was there. All right, continue here on this Amy and TJ wants you to know what cash Betel's response has been. Roes, He had a couple of responses online. Folks, you take these for what they are, well, just let you hear them and you come to your own conclusions.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's right.
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Speaker 3: So Cash Battel, director of the FBI, went on to x and tweeted this memo to the fake news The only time I'll ever actually be concerned about the hit piece lies you write about me will be when you stop keep talking. It means I'm doing exactly what I should be doing, and no amount of bs you write will ever deter this FBI from making America safe again and taking down the criminals.
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Speaker 4: You love.
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Speaker 1: You put a little stink on it when you well that.
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Speaker 3: I feel like that's this this sessy, this X post has some attitude alongside it, so it needs to be read.
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Speaker 4: I think accordingly.
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Speaker 2: This next one that it was a separate one, I believe, but yes it was another from him.
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Speaker 3: Yes he said, see you and your entire entourage of false reporting in court, but do keep at it with the fake news actual malice standard is now what some would call a legal layup.
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Speaker 2: Wow, so that's a threat to Sue said they will do it. Another one, he said, print it all false. I'll see you in court. Bring your check book. And then but Rode we got a more detailed response from his uh, his attorney, and look, look we've we've come up against this before. But they claim that they were given the heads up at like two ten in the afternoon for an article that was going to be posted at four in the after.
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Speaker 4: I mean that, I'm sure that is probably true. We have had that experience as well, when you.
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Speaker 1: Have five minutes, yeah, we literally.
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Speaker 3: We had five minutes when there was a hit piece. So yes, we understand that there are instances in which it does seem unfair to have such a horrific piece being said about you and you've been given a very limited amount of time to respond.
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Speaker 1: So I think they had a fair argument there.
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Speaker 2: Like the rest of it, I don't know, but really, Robes, I mean, well, I don't know what you do in a situation like this, Because you can, as a news organization say okay, take your time, then your article will never get published.
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Speaker 1: You can't do that.
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Speaker 2: But something this ropes to that, that rises to this level an hour and fifty minutes to respond to explosive stuff, to get your own ducks in a row to give a comment of some kind.
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Speaker 1: I don't know where I fall on that one, Babe.
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Speaker 4: I'm not sure either. You can't give them too much time, but you.
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Speaker 1: Can't give them overnight. You can't give them a day.
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Speaker 2: You can't give them to you, Right, you got something that you think is good, So I can't wait to get it up because some of it somebody else might scoop me or something might happen. Absolutely, and that is a thing that drives this. For tabloids, it's the thing that drives it. Maybe for but I think an hour fifty if you're going to call the FBI director or drunk, two hours isn't.
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Speaker 1: A lot of times.
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Speaker 4: It's not a lot of time. I agree with that. So this is what Cash tells.
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Speaker 3: Lawyer said in a letter, it has come to light that you intend to publish an article in the Atlantic at four pm Eastern time today April seventeenth, twenty twenty six, regarding my client, which contains categorically false and defamatory assertions. Should you publish these false allegations, Director Patel will take swift legal action to uphold his reputation.
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Speaker 2: Ma, he didn't mince words, or the lawyer didn't there or oh this sound like they might be a lawsuit tomorrow or at least of this week.
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Speaker 4: Yes, maybe as soon as Monday. I would not be surprised.
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Speaker 3: The letter goes on to say, we demand that you remove and refuse to publish each of the following defamatory statements and a Ford, director Patel, and the FBI a full and reasonable.
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Speaker 4: Opportunity to respond.
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Speaker 3: The Atlantic sent FBIOPA a request for comment at two oh nine pm Eastern Time today, with a four pm Eastern time deadline. The email contains nineteen substantive claims about director Patel, most of which are false, unsourced, and facially defamatory. Per se as FBIPA.
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Speaker 4: Responded through A. D.
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Speaker 3: Williamson, the claims are one of the most absurd things I've ever read, completely false at a nearly one hundred percent clip.
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Speaker 4: I wonder, look, and that was that was very.
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Speaker 3: I mean it pat turn and it was yes, and they made it very clear that this is categorically false.
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Speaker 4: However, I thought it was interesting.
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 4: This is me reading between the lines.
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Speaker 1: Nearly all false, all love and not at all.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was some careful wording in there, and there's some lawyering, and that's fine, but it does not mean that these claims are true.
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Speaker 1: But it starts to build robes.
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Speaker 2: The thing the problem with the stories like this is that it's in line already with something people think about Cash Betel like this reporting is all is not out of left field. It all fits into a narrative been built up and one that's recently been robed. It's been burned into our memories, in our imagery of him chugging a beer and slamming it down in the locker room during one of the those iconic moments in Olympic history for the United States of America after the men won the hockey hockey goal.
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Speaker 1: He was in that chugging beer.
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Speaker 3: It was weird, Like you got to think about it's just interesting that he doesn't consider his position to be one that well, you were not cash, But tell the dude who's forty six year old, who's super excited, you're always still the FBI director.
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Speaker 4: So yeah, I thought that was an interesting word.
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Speaker 2: Do you find the balance robes of what you're able to do and what is is still okay? Him having a beer is not against It's not the end of the world. Him celebrating with the US team is not the end of the world.
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Speaker 1: Like he's not. I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I don't know how to balance in saying to someone what he should be doing and what's a good look and what's not a good look for the FBI director. I don't know if the president's okay with then then knock yourself out. But there was reporting robes that the President wasn't okay with what happened after the USA Gold with the men him over there seemingly just kicking it. What was it he had, he had a meeting, he planned a security meeting.
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Speaker 1: He happened to be there.
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Speaker 3: I claimed he had a security meeting that just so happened to coincide with the hockey team.
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Speaker 1: Could be true, playing yeah.
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Speaker 2: Could be true, But they're denying, they're denying it all. But this is a guy cash.
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Speaker 3: But really.
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Speaker 1: Really shocked. I don't know why to hear that.
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Speaker 3: That's why I had to look it up because I needed thirty four his birthday February twenty fifth, nineteen eighty man.
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Speaker 2: All right, well we just well stand by, is what we're saying. Folks expect, I guess a lawsuit to be filed this week, Cash Hotel. But it is of concern if the person in charge robes of in large degree keeping the homeland safe at a time when we were expecting attacks from all over the place, not just missiles flying, but I mean robes at good cyber attacks and all these kinds of things that are happening now he's the guy that we need to be protecting the homeland. And an article comes out as saying he's drunk, he's in Vegas, he's at this thing, he's intoxicated at this thing.
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Speaker 1: We can't find him to the point we.
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Speaker 2: Need to bust down a door because we can't get a hold of the freakin behide directed.
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Speaker 3: Maybe it's not true, maybe it's not true, but there is something to the fact that it feels true. You know, you see certain things. He's kind of been the butt of a lot of folks jokes and then you read these accusations and it does seemingly fit, but it doesn't mean it's true. And look, I just know when you see sourcing like that amid a threat of a lawsuit that almost assuredly will happen, that lends credibility to the Atlantics recording.
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Speaker 1: That's a good point.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, and with that everyone, we always appreciate you listening to us. Thank you as always, I'm Amy Robach alongside TJ.
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Speaker 4: Holmes. We will talk to you sot