Sept. 24, 2026
90 Day Fiancé Couple Marissa and Edward Are Married! …Now what??
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RSS Feed It’s been a turbulent season of 90 Day Fiancé - but Marissa and Edward have weathered the storm and made it down the aisle! Now they catch up with Amy and TJ to talk about how they’ve navigated watching the show back - and how they’ve handled fans giving opinions on their relationship.
Where do things stand with Marissa’s ex-husband Michael? Where do they stand on having children? Did they get close to calling it quits?! We’re getting deep!
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Speaker 1: Thank you.
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Speaker 2: Hey there, everybody, and welcome to I Do Part Two, the show where if you got love right the first time around, this is not the podcast for you. We are two of your hosts, Amy Robach, two in front of me here, and TJ Holmes here. We are excited to invite two guests on today. But one of them we've had as a guest before, and she brought along a guy, Rose, that I don't know how we should feel. She had to lie to us about him the first time we talked to her.
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Speaker 1: Well, lying by omission.
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Speaker 2: Yes, same thing. We're saying the same thing.
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Speaker 1: She couldn't tell us what ended up happening with her and her betrothed. Of course, we are talking about, well, I think most people know we love the show 90 Day Fiancee. And we are so excited to welcome back to the podcast, Marissa. But this time she is joined by her husband, Edward.
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Speaker 3: So it's true.
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Speaker 2: You two got married and we were all watching.
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Speaker 1: And Marissa, I said to you right before we jumped back onto the podcast, I said, when you were with us last, we weren't supposed to know whether or not you two ended up getting married at the end of the 90 days.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: When every time you were talking about Edward, you had a smile on your face.
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Speaker 2: So I left.
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Speaker 1: We were actually in person in studio and we left. And I said to TJ, they definitely got married. Did you see the look on her face when she spoke about him?
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Speaker 3: So how are you all doing? Great.
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Speaker 5: I mean, listen, it's hard to hide happiness. So, of course, I was smiling when I talk about him. It was really hard to keep that secret inside because I wanted to shout from the rooftops.
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Speaker 3: Hey, we got married.
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Speaker 5: We survived like we are great.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, like our marriage, listen, everything, just like everybody's marriages, it has ups and downs.
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Speaker 5: And we've been through quite the roller coaster since the start of filming till even now.
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Speaker 3: But right now, I think we're in a good place.
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Speaker 5: Right now, I think that our communication is like 10 out of 10.
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Speaker 2: All right. Well, Edward, before we get to your communication, Edward and Marissa, we do have to ask, how long did you actually have to keep this secret? How many months are we talking that you couldn't be out there in public? Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So- No, we haven't even been married for a year.
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Speaker 2: It feels like one, though. Edward, you can't forget your anniversary before the first year anniversary, man.
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Speaker 6: Come on. No, the thing is like.
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Speaker 3: He's thinking from when, what?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, so like I have a year in the United States already.
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Speaker 3: So we've been keeping it a secret for nine months.
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Speaker 6: Wow.
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Speaker 1: That's a long time.
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Speaker 2: How the hell do you do that?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's, I mean, listen, not easy, right? Because people go out. He always has to leave the house with no wedding ring on.
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Speaker 5: I mean, sometimes I forget, but I was like, whenever somebody sees us in public, I'm like, hi, like put my hand behind me.
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Speaker 3: And it's hard to keep it a secret.
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Speaker 5: Also, one of the most exciting things that you do in your life is get married and not being able to post wedding pictures and announcements that we're married on your social media is hard because you want to show the world how happy you are. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And we didn't have that opportunity, but now that I have the green light.
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Speaker 1: And it's so interesting you say show the world because so many of us are used to putting our best foot forward. Anytime we post anything on social media, anytime we announce anything or we let people into our lives, we usually present the best version of ourselves, the best version of our relationship. But you all were on full display, the good, the bad, the ugly. And we actually just finished watching part two of the Tell All reunion. And look, as you pointed out, lots of ups and downs. But I'm curious, what's it like having those ups and downs with the rest of America commenting on those ups and downs? How has that impacted your relationship?
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Speaker 3: A lot. I think it's been really hard.
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Speaker 4: I mean.
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Speaker 3: Well, not for me.
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Speaker 6: Well, that's not true.
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Speaker 5: We had some struggles because I think that when we filmed, we had this agreement that when the show finally started to air, we.
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Speaker 3: Would not be affected by it.
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Speaker 5: You know, we were going to like hold hands and stick by each other's side and not get affected by the things that were said because that's in the past. And that is a lot easier than it sounds because you're watching, you know, every Sunday night we'd sit here on the couch, we'd watch the show and then Every now and then you catch a look of Edward going, what.
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Speaker 3: Did you say? Or I look at him and I'm like, why would you say that?
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Speaker 5: And, you know, you kind of replay those moments and you replay the emotions, even though it happened.
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Speaker 3: A while ago, it's reigniting inside of you.
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Speaker 5: And then you start to kind of have a little bit of friction between one another.
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Speaker 4: And by the way, things that people don't know is that we don't know what they're going to put in a TV, you know?
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Speaker 6: So basically it's the same thing.
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Speaker 4: Exciting what somebody see for the first time. Because I don't see his solos when she talk by herself and she don't see mine. So all the time that we sit down and we see like, oh, well you saved this one, it's yours.
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Speaker 3: Did you really do that? Is that a real statement?
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Speaker 2: Am I hearing you all correctly, Edward, that watching the show damn near calls the fight every Sunday?
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Speaker 3: Basically, the wedding episode, things have calmed down.
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Speaker 5: But to go back to your question about having the world comment on your relationship, I think that I never we never.
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Speaker 3: Anticipated it to be this difficult because. Think about, I mean, you guys are a couple.
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Speaker 5: You have your ups and downs, but you're friends and you have them. They're not married yet, but soon, hopefully, right? They don't want to talk about it.
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Speaker 2: It's about you guys right now.
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Speaker 6: I'm sorry. I'm Dominican.
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Speaker 5: So most normal people have their fights in private and we had them in front of the country or in front of the world and people don't see the whole fight. People don't see all of the elements of the discussion and they have a very narrow view from what they see. Now I understand that, you know, like they're only seeing certain parts of it and they test judgment. But when you see something posted about you online and you're like, that's not me. That's not how I am. That's not how I meant that line or how I meant that sentence. And it's people are mean, you know, we, I feel, I mean, Edward got, Edward had it easy. You know, everybody loves Edward for Edward. Edward should have run from Marissa.
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Speaker 2: We do. Everybody loves.
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Speaker 6: Edward.
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Speaker 3: Everybody loves Edward. That should be his new spinoff show. But yeah, it was really hard for me.
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Speaker 5: And I struggled quite a bit with a lot of the commentary and feeling really, really misunderstood.
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Speaker 2: Can I ask both of you all here, not that you all are not trying to get you to trash producers in any way, but more so, you know, they have to leave some stuff on the cutting room floor. But can you all think of anything that you think was really and even almost intentionally misrepresented you all? in some way, short of some stuff just having to be edited out. You said a lot?
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Speaker 3: A lot.
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Speaker 4: A lot.
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Speaker 6: Even, like, they make a meme. A meme.
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Speaker 4: A meme with some part that she's saying, like, loyal boys. This is a big one. And, like, they just say that... Oh, you want to be in the camera?
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Speaker 6: Say hi.
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Speaker 3: Okay, so, Rocky, get down, honey.
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Speaker 4: So.
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Speaker 3: What.
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Speaker 4: Happened is, like, we have a conversation, and We started arguing for something, you know, and I was doing this in the table.
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Speaker 5: I was just banging the table. He was raising his voice. He was speaking very calmly.
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Speaker 6: And then she say, lawyer boy. So everybody said, you're in the restaurant, right?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I need to take accountability for this.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, I was doing this.
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Speaker 5: But it wasn't lower your voice. It was lower your voice with the clenched teeth because I was angry and I was embarrassed. And I was like, we're in a public place, stop. And it kind of looked like he was speaking calmly and I was overreacting. It did.
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Speaker 2: It 100% did.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: They even use that, I think, in teases, like in bumps and commercial breaks. they emphasize that moment a lot. That is really interesting to hear that it didn't go down the way we actually saw it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Now I will admit the restaurant scene was highly emotional. I was very, you know, that was a long day of filming. I really wanted to just have a nice evening together. We wanted to enjoy. He, he is very emotional and he is sensitive and he likes to get deep into conversation. He likes to, you know, express emotions and sometimes my brain's not there and I want to just have a light evening and have fun. And so I was already kind of temperamental and I was hungry and, or hangry as we talked about on the show, hungry and angry. And yeah, so I take accountability for that moment in the restaurant because I was highly agitated for a lot of different reasons. And yeah, So they didn't paint the picture that I was like this angel. I mean, they painted the picture of what they were, what they were filming, which was accurate, but it's just funny that I said, lower your voice. And he, at that the scene right before the sentence right before was him being calm.
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Speaker 3: So that was a little misleading, I think.
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Speaker 1: That makes sense. I am so fascinated by this because obviously fights are so difficult and so personal. And even when you work past them or you get through them, it's not like everything's resolved. So the idea of having to go back and watch an edited version of your fight. together months after it happened. I think about that and I actually want to crawl underneath the table.
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Speaker 3: Like that sounds excruciating. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Did you have to re, did you have to go over what you were fighting about again to get through it?
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Speaker 2: Did it make you.
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Speaker 1: Stronger in the end? I'm just curious how you made it past watching those episodes back. That sounds awful.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was hard. I mean, I'll give you a really good example.
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Speaker 5: There was a big moment during the season where I questioned Edward's intelligence, or at least it was framed that way. And the point I was really trying to make was because of our language barrier.
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Speaker 3: Listen, he speaks English well.
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Speaker 5: Thank God, because if he didn't speak English, we probably wouldn't have a relationship. But it's very hard to communicate well. deep emotional feelings because he doesn't understand every word in English is not his first language. Now, if I spoke fluent Spanish, it would be a lot easier to communicate. And we probably meet eye to eye on a lot of things, but, uh, hit the inability to communicate in both of our first languages together, put a little stress in the relationship. And I started questioning, like, am I going to be fulfilled? Am I going to be able to express myself? Am I going to be able to have deep conversations with this person? And it was really just because of the language barrier. But it came off. And I admit it. It came off like I was questioning his intelligence. And am I going to be stimulated, you know, from an intelligence point of view or whatever? And that episode came out where I'm talking with my friends. And I said that, you know, is he going to be able to stimulate me intellectually? And it came off just the way that it sounded, you know, really bad. He didn't know that because this was a scene that.
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Speaker 3: He wasn't there. I was just there with my girlfriends. He watches back.
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Speaker 5: We were actually separated because he was traveling for baseball and he was.
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Speaker 3: In what we were in Georgia.
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Speaker 6: No, I was in. Yeah, I was in Georgia.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: And I immediately saw the episode and I was like cringing. I was like, oh, my God. I was like, that looks so bad. And I feel so bad. So I immediately went online and I said, listen, I am not. I am not questioning his intelligence. I don't think he's an idiot. It's just that we struggle to communicate sometimes because of the language barrier. Well, I got lots of hate on that post for starters. But then when the episode actually came out, he.
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Speaker 3: Got very upset. Very upset.
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Speaker 5: Even though I prefaced the episode, like I said, listen, you're probably not going to like this. This is what I meant. But he got livid. And we were in separate states because he was traveling. And he was like, I'm not having this. This is out of line. I cannot believe that you embarrass me on national TV.
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Speaker 3: And I felt bad.
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Speaker 5: And he finally put his foot down with me. He finally gave it to me. And I kind of quivered like, like, I really upset this man and I felt really bad about it. So reliving that and having to explain and work that fight out was a really good. communication exercise in our relationship because I had to really explain what I meant, but he was very upset and it was really hard for us to get through those couple of weeks.
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Speaker 3: I mean, it lasted.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: Can you put in your words what it was like to watch the woman you were going to marry speak to you in such a way or about you in such a way, literally behind your back, but then the whole world and including your family, your loved ones could see that.
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Speaker 4: So like, yeah, like for me, it was very hard because, um, I think no matter what I can say, I'm not going to find a way to put her down. And at that moment, that's what I was feeling. I have families and friends that everybody see the clip and start to text me, call me, like, why'd you say that?
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Speaker 6: Why'd you do that?
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Speaker 4: And I was in a game in that moment. And I have the ability. She was texting me and speaking to me. I said, she needs to say something so horrible that everybody started to text me and call me. And I don't have the available to like answer and respond. So when I finally go down and I finally put a moment between the games, because it's a whole tournament and I just sit down and see it, I was like in shock and I need to focus with the boys. Like it was very hard for me, you know, but like, yeah, like things like this, uh, work a lot in the point that we are right now, you know?
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Speaker 5: You know, the funny thing is, is that, yeah, I've had different life experiences than Edward and that's, Just because of age, I've.
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Speaker 3: Been on this earth 13 years more. But you know what's interesting.
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Speaker 5: About him is that he has such a high level of EQ, emotional intelligence, that I can never compete with. He has the ability to really see into people and support them and nurture them and have patience with them. So far beyond what I'm able to offer to most. So I think that that balances us out.
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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: I'm also curious too, because you talked about those asides that you don't know what the other person is saying to camera. But Edward, I'm even wondering because I know that you can understand, I think most people can understand why there would be a level of suspicion about wanting a green card.
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Speaker 3: Or what's his real motivation.
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Speaker 1: But to hear Marissa's mom, who you obviously are going to have a relationship with going forward, or you would hope to, to hear those conversations about you. Normally, these things happen, but none of us actually are privy to them. None of us actually get to see what people are saying about us privately.
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Speaker 2: Wait, your mom talks about me?
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Speaker 3: She says really nice things about you.
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Speaker 4: Seriously?
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Speaker 1: But I'm saying that has to be such an added layer of tension. to have access to those conversations about you while you're not there with people who you're going to have a relationship with going forward. If you end up getting married, what was, how did you navigate that?
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Speaker 6: So, um, first of all, I love you and Joanne is amazing.
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Speaker 4: Um, and what she say is the true. I just learned something's very important. early in my life that I think has helped me with a lot of things. And it's like, I need to love everybody in the way that they are. I'm not here for change nobody. I like her in the way that she is, you know, maybe a couple of things, but like, like older than that. But yeah, like, because of that, I can put myself in the person's shoes.
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Speaker 6: And it was true.
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Speaker 4: Like, she don't know me. I'm 13 years younger than her. You know, I'm coming for, my country is not a third, third world country, but it's almost, you know, and a lot of people in my country, they just want to come to United States, you know? And yeah, like his fears and all the things.
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Speaker 6: That she was expressed was right.
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Speaker 4: And I'm okay with this because for not for one year, not for two, not for five, for the rest of my life, I need to deal with the people judgment because I, Right now, everybody feel.
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Speaker 6: Like, oh, when I got my grant card that I have.
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Speaker 4: Already, he got to left. Then they got to say, well, he got to wait to be a senior American. And then they got to, oh, 10 years. It's always a question about if I'm with her with the right reason.
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Speaker 6: Whatever is outside us, I really don't care.
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Speaker 4: As soon as she understand that I'm with her with the right reason, it's not a problem.
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Speaker 2: Can i ask where does that come from were you just raised that way did you train yourself because i think what you said is very useful to everybody in relationships you said i can stop and put myself in that person's shoes and that helps you navigate some conflicts is that just how you were raised around people like that you just naturally develop but that's a very good tool in relationships you.
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Speaker 4: Know like i think i'm too weird i'm a bit too a lot you know on and one of the things like Like my brain is like when I lose my dad. So my dad was like everything for me. So when he was a funny guy, he was making everybody laughing, you know, and he passed away in a year later, nobody remembered him. So made me realize that no matter what, how many effort you can do it with somebody else, uh, people are going to remember you in the moment, just important people in your life.
00:19:04
Speaker 6: Gotta remember you always.
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Speaker 4: So after that, I just stopped care about opinions for everybody. And I just started like care about myself. And I, in that moment, I just realized the real concept about being loved or love someone. I think that this is something that is confused for everybody. Like, My opinion.
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Speaker 6: I'm just thinking. I'm just translating my brain. I'm sorry for that.
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Speaker 4: So it's basically like being in love with someone is love the person in the level that they require. Not in the level that I require. Because we are different people. So basically, when she get mad, she need space. When I get mad, I need affection. So what happens if she get mad and I'm going to hug her? When she need space, she got to be irritated. She's got to be more upset because she needs space. So when you understand that and you.
00:20:14
Speaker 3: They understand.
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Speaker 6: I did. I just see myself.
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Speaker 2: That's hilarious. Because, yes, we get in a fight. Me and Marissa will be off in the corner somewhere.
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Speaker 1: On our own.
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Speaker 2: And I want affection.
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Speaker 3: I want reassurance.
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Speaker 2: You two can hug it out.
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Speaker 3: He's like, I need space. I'm like, no.
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Speaker 4: So, yeah, like, when you realize that and you understand that, I need to love her in the way that she requests and not in the way that I request, make me understand that I need to stop doing things that I really want and start doing things that she wants. Yeah.
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Speaker 5: You know, it's been like that in our relationship where, you know, he's very affectionate, wants affection all the time.
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Speaker 3: And I'm not really affectionate. I show my love in other ways.
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Speaker 5: And we're now in this point in our marriage where we're really trying to meet each other in the middle where I'm really trying to be more affectionate and show him that he's valued and appreciated. And he's trying to understand.
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Speaker 3: That when I need space, it's give it to me.
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Speaker 5: But can I circle back to one other thing, too, about the comments and Edward's intentions with the green card? It's really interesting, just talking about the.
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Speaker 3: Impact of the show on our relationship. When we.
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Speaker 5: Entered into the K-1 visa process, I had zero doubts in my mind that he was ever using me for a green card, ever. And it was important for me to show the world through the show that.
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Speaker 5: Our relationship is genuine. He's not the person that's going to be taking advantage of me. He's going to share equal weight in this household and responsibilities, both physically and financially. And teaching him about the ways of the world in the United States was something that was a real thing because he had to learn a lot in order to be an equal partner to me. I wasn't going to be this older woman, the stereotypical older woman that brings I love.
00:22:14
Speaker 3: That people call you a cabana boy. You were never a cabana.
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Speaker 5: That's a cabana boy, you know, back from vacation. That was never the case with us. We genuinely fell in love and it was a real story. He also had this agenda in his mind that he wanted to prove to the world that he wasn't using me, you know, and that was, you know, so I'm on this, this side saying like, nobody's going to think that I'm being taken advantage of. And he's on this side saying, I'm going to show that I'm not taking advantage of her.
00:22:40
Speaker 3: And it's really polarizing.
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Speaker 5: So I think that that's how our personas were formed, you know, and the narrative is I'm going to be this, you know, hard-nosed, direct person. He's going to be very accommodating and show me that he's here for the right reasons.
00:22:55
Speaker 3: But when you ask about.
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Speaker 5: The green card, it's hard when we talk about comments because I would read the comments and somehow they get.
00:23:03
Speaker 3: Planted in your brain. So if we would get into a fight. I'd be like, oh, I see.
00:23:07
Speaker 5: You're just going to be mad at me because you want to do this, and now you have your green card, so you're going to get lost.
00:23:13
Speaker 2: Marissa, you didn't pull that out during the argument, did you? You didn't say that.
00:23:18
Speaker 6: I did.
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Speaker 3: Those comments start to infiltrate your brain. You start believing what you read. You do. You start to question.
00:23:26
Speaker 5: The intention and, and I don't feel that way. And my, my, my heart tells me that he is very 100% genuine.
00:23:33
Speaker 3: Sometimes I pull it out.
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Speaker 5: I'm like, Oh, Oh, I guess now you're just going to go and find all the ladies that send you pictures on Instagram and stuff like that.
00:23:39
Speaker 6: That's fear.
00:23:40
Speaker 2: That's fear.
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Speaker 1: And that's the fear of losing him, fear of him walking away, fear of being a fool and not seeing it for what it is. And yes, all those comments can get in your head. That's why we don't read comments. It's an amazing thing to choose. not to do um because we've just we've been there we know what it's like to be on the receiving end of that and it's damaging.
00:24:02
Speaker 2: And not that you're all here for advice from us but this is some that we can give through learned experience don't do anything in your relationship based on the public don't make any move thinking well they're gonna think this we have to do this to satisfy If you all just stay focused on you and your love and that house and that dog and your boys, you're going to be fine. But, yeah, we've gotten caught up at times. And, well, we got to do this or they'll say this about us. Or to prove that.
00:24:31
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:24:31
Speaker 3: Right?
00:24:31
Speaker 1: And it's just never the right thing to do. I have another question for you all because where we left it with you, I felt for you because you all haveâ You've dealt with so many issues.
00:24:42
Speaker 2: But all at once.
00:24:43
Speaker 1: You've got an age difference. You've got a language and a cultural barrier. You've got judgment from folks who don't believe your love is genuine. And then you've got an ex-husband who is.
00:24:57
Speaker 2: Who is being.
00:24:58
Speaker 1: Extremely difficult from what we can gather. How are you navigating that? Has that gotten any better? Because the last thing we saw, y'all were both in tears over not only just the pot stirring that's going on, but Edward not feeling supported by you, Marissa, and Marissa, you not feeling understood by Edward.
00:25:19
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:25:19
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:25:20
Speaker 5: Um, the tell-all that time period was very difficult. We were in a very, very serious fight with Michael and it was, it was, it was the worst it's ever been in the entire time that I've been, maybe not, maybe I'm forgetting some horrible puns, but like, it was really bad.
00:25:35
Speaker 6: Let's put it that way.
00:25:37
Speaker 5: And we were, you know, Michael had the opportunity to come to the tell-all and, you know, defend himself and he chose not to. And we said what we wanted to say. So things have calmed down since the tell-all. But just as we had our issues when episodes air, the tell-all now airs, Michael's not happy.
00:25:57
Speaker 3: With what we said. I can't believe you said this. I can't believe that you would actually think that I would do this.
00:26:03
Speaker 5: And the flames are starting to ignite again, and in not a good way. And he's, you know, starting to question our intentions. And he's, you know, I'm waiting for another explosion. I feel like it's really close. And, you know, I mean, we're trying to navigate with him. We're trying to co-parent with him and things have been okay, but I just, it goes like this. It's always like this. My entire life with Michael has been up and down. And sometimes it's quiet and sometimes it's very quiet.
00:26:34
Speaker 6: We try to be adults. Because this kid's involved.
00:26:38
Speaker 4: There's two boys involved and I do understand that he can feel like this because we have that. So I just try to don't respond, don't get in the same level You know, after the tell-all, I was like, have a conversation, me and him, privately. And we just sit down, take a coffee, and then say, listen, you have the opportunity to say whatever you want to say now.
00:27:04
Speaker 6: If you want to call me, like, I can talk freely. I don't know. What do you want to say?
00:27:12
Speaker 4: I say it to him, so you want to say, like, ananasso or things like this, you know. And you have your opportunity because this is the last opportunity that you can have. I'm going to give you the freedom to express yourself, you know? And I'm going to express myself. And we need to finish that meeting. Agree or disagree, but we need to respect and have boundaries. So we sit down, we talk for a while, like three hours, express yourself. He realized a lot of things. I've realized a couple of things too. And we are in the point that we respect each other. That's what we try to do, you know?
00:27:47
Speaker 3: Until next week.
00:27:49
Speaker 2: Until next week. We tried to leave it on a nice note there.
00:27:53
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. He's done a lot of work.
00:27:56
Speaker 5: He's very mature in this situation and I applaud him for taking the higher road.
00:28:01
Speaker 3: It's not always the same.
00:28:02
Speaker 4: When I say that she don't defend you or take my bad or something like that, what I try to say is their reaction, their time reaction. She take my bad. But like in that moment, I was feeling like it's too slow. And in the way that she understands, it's better. So because it happened in the moment, I was like feeling guilty because I never feel guilty. And I feel like giving myself the permission to be guilty. But when I would sit down and analyze, well, we manage the things in the right way.
00:28:37
Speaker 6: Not because of me.
00:28:38
Speaker 4: It's because of boys that are in the middle.
00:28:41
Speaker 2: How old are the boys now? Remind us. How old are the boys? How are they doing with you guys?
00:28:46
Speaker 3: They are 11 and one month shy of 13.
00:28:48
Speaker 2: How's that going with the boys? You two and the marriage and everything? How's that?
00:28:54
Speaker 6: Everything is amazing. The boys are amazing. We have a very good time all the time and experience.
00:28:59
Speaker 3: I mean, my almost teenager is.
00:29:01
Speaker 6: It's a part. He's a teenager.
00:29:04
Speaker 3: He's playing video games his whole life, playing baseball, which is good for him and Edward to bond. But the little one, my 11-year-old, is always with us. He loves to like.
00:29:12
Speaker 5: Have a lot of banter with Edward. They have a hilarious relationship, but it's actually quite good. And he always knows that when I say no, you go.
00:29:19
Speaker 3: To Edward and Edward will say.
00:29:30
Speaker 4: Yes.
00:29:32
Speaker 2: Last few things here. And I wonder if they fooled us, the producers. It looked like or they made it look like you all got really close maybe to not getting married or things got so difficult before you said, I do. Did you all get close at all to calling out?
00:29:51
Speaker 3: I think that the 90 days really tested us. They do.
00:29:55
Speaker 5: And there was a lot of moments that I, listen, I had, My first marriage was highly unsuccessful and I did not want to make another mistake. And I tend to fall hard and fast. And I did that with Edward. We fell in love very quickly. And we maintained a relationship in two separate countries. And when we finally came from living apart to living together in a second, I started to realize, is this going to work for me? Is this going to fit into my life? Am I going to truly be happy with this person?
00:30:29
Speaker 3: So yeah, you witnessed the truth. You witnessed the emotional.
00:30:33
Speaker 5: Rollercoaster of me questioning, while I love him, of course I love him, is this the right partner for me? And is this going to be the person that I'm going to take it to the end? Yeah.
00:30:44
Speaker 3: Yes, it was not a fool.
00:30:46
Speaker 5: I always I think in the back of my head, I always knew that I wanted to marry Edward. But you witnessed the emotional roller coaster of how what I was going through in those 90 days because it was hard.
00:30:55
Speaker 6: And it was the same for me.
00:30:57
Speaker 4: Like I was married before, was seven years married. And it's a lot of things that we like when we end a relationship in a bad way, you have a lot of trauma. So all this trauma is like basically a red flag and you fight with that. So like move to other country, left everything in my country and see like couple little things, you know, it's fight. It's a fight in my head. Like it's got to be the same. She got to be there and she got to change. And like, yeah, there's a lot of question about it.
00:31:32
Speaker 2: We get that.
00:31:33
Speaker 1: And then, and I just wanted to touch on it because I know this was a big theme, especially in the tell-all that we just watched, but this idea that Edward, you always wanted your own kids. Marissa, you're at a certain age and so many couples deal with this, struggle with this. Have you all figured out the way forward for you all with that idea of having a child together?
00:31:54
Speaker 5: It's still a sensitive subject for us. We agreed before we got married and even very, very early on in the relationship that I'm not having any kids.
00:32:06
Speaker 3: And he accepted that. He said, I love you. I'd rather be with you than have kids.
00:32:10
Speaker 5: And I think that my suspicions about him changing his mind, you know, came true a little bit, but I knew that he eventually was going to feel a little bit of regret by choosing a woman that wasn't able to provide children with him. In the tell-all, some ideas came up about surrogacy, which I get a thank you to the fans. So many people are reaching out to me offering to be a surrogate for our relationship.
00:32:36
Speaker 3: So, wow.
00:32:36
Speaker 1: That's very kind.
00:32:37
Speaker 4: Yes.
00:32:39
Speaker 5: But I think in our life right now, I mean, I just bought my two businesses. He's still getting grounded in his financial situation. And It's just not the right time for us. I mean, I know the time is of the essence. I am about to be 47 years old. He's still in his prime. And I know that this is a conversation that we'll keep revisiting. But right now, it's just not in the cards for us at this very moment.
00:33:07
Speaker 2: All right. Last couple of things. Do you have a happy question to end with? Because I have one more heavy question.
00:33:12
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll come up with a happy question.
00:33:13
Speaker 2: You have a happy question. And the reason I want to ask this, Marissa and Edward, is because it did. play so much of a role in this season. And Marissa, you alluded to it. Everybody loves Edward. But the people are coming after you from what they see as you talking down to him. And so I have to ask, because it was in part one or part two of the tell-all, you all were getting into it. And it stood out to me. And I remember you called him an idiot. In the heat of the moment, you said, then you're an idiot if you think blah, blah, blah, blah, blah about your egg. You think I should have my ex not be in the picture, blah, blah, blah, blah. I hear that. And on one hand, I go, how dare she do that? That's awful. And then on the other hand, I have been in conversations, in heated fights with this woman across the table with me, in which some things were said that there's no way in hell that would have come out under different circumstances and not in the heat of the moment or anger. Marissa, I'm giving you a second here to answer to those folks who look at it and want to criticize you for maybe a bad moment like that. And then there are those of us who look at it and don't like it, but also can go, yeah, I've said some messed up too.
00:34:28
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:34:28
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:34:29
Speaker 5: I mean, listen, in behind closed doors, you say things to your spouse that you probably wouldn't say in public. Um, we are unfortunately like in front of cameras and it does show the world, you know, some things that we say to each other, but On a normal basis, I don't insult him like that.
00:34:44
Speaker 3: I think it was the conversation specifically. And listen, I'm a New Yorker. I'm direct. If I feel this way, I'm going to tell you. OK, and people don't like that.
00:34:51
Speaker 5: I don't think people a lot of people could handle that aspect of my personality. But when I said you're an idiot, if you can understand that, I didn't specifically say he's an idiot.
00:35:00
Speaker 3: Edward is an idiot.
00:35:01
Speaker 5: I said, if you can't understand that, I understand. have to maintain some type of relationship with the father of my children, then yeah, that's stupid. You need to think more clearly about the situation. He doesn't understand it as clearly as I do because I have children and he doesn't.
00:35:17
Speaker 3: And having an ex that you have to share children with is not easy, but it's a necessity. You have to. So that's what I meant by that. I mean, could I've used... a better choice of a word? Absolutely.
00:35:29
Speaker 5: I mean, I regret a lot of things that I say to him. I, you know, I get fiery, I get heated. I'm an Italian from the Bronx and I say things that sometimes I wish that I didn't say. But I think, you know, I don't even know if you got highly offended by that at that moment, because I think it was just in the heat of the conversation.
00:35:44
Speaker 4: Well, it didn't feel good. But this is, this is the thing on in the way that I was growing. is basically I've never got the permission to express myself.
00:36:04
Speaker 6: So always I'm overthinking. I'm an overthinking person.
00:36:08
Speaker 4: So because of that, I just want to be in a hard moment. I don't say things like when I get angry. I can say it, but 90% of the time I don't. I just listen, understand that as I It's hyper. She's angry. And I don't try to take personal.
00:36:34
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't get angry like that very often.
00:36:37
Speaker 3: I don't yell very often.
00:36:38
Speaker 6: She did.
00:36:40
Speaker 4: I gave her time next day in the morning. Then when she calmed down and she realized, she like apologized.
00:36:49
Speaker 6: And this is what is successful in our relationship right now.
00:36:54
Speaker 4: Like when she feel that she needs to apologize because she knows that she crossed the line and she says something that she's not supposed to. Next day is apologize. She's not coming with the bullshit that people say like this. You need to accept me like that. No, she come down, realize. And if she know that I'm failed, she tell me and she apologize. So I need to apologize.
00:37:18
Speaker 6: So yeah, like.
00:37:19
Speaker 2: What did you say, Marissa? Italian girl from the Bronx? Is that what you said?
00:37:22
Speaker 6: I am, yeah.
00:37:24
Speaker 2: Who knew? An Italian girl from the Bronx and a sensitive fella from the Dominican. It actually works. It does. It does. I love that.
00:37:33
Speaker 4: All right.
00:37:33
Speaker 1: I want to ask you because some people are afraid of walking down the aisle because they think marriage is going to change their relationship. How has marriage changed your relationship? I'd love to hear from both of you.
00:37:47
Speaker 2: Asking for a friend.
00:37:51
Speaker 5: I think that, well, we have a very unique situation because basically we went from dating in two separate countries to in an instant living together and not easing into living together. I think a lot of times couples have the luxury of easing into living in the same space and seeing.
00:38:09
Speaker 3: How it works.
00:38:10
Speaker 5: And we had to make this quick decision. So in one regard, I love being married because I get to see Edward every day. We love cuddling at night. We love sleeping in each other's arms. And that is a beautiful thing, you know, that I get to experience every day. I think that sometimes it's challenging to always be on top of each other because yes, I like my space. I like my space a lot. And I think that that's been an adjustment for us. But if I were to say, is it harder or easier or better or worse.
00:38:39
Speaker 3: Now that we're married?
00:38:40
Speaker 5: I definitely say, that it is much better now that we're together and we're married.
00:38:44
Speaker 3: And we have a commitment to one another.
00:38:46
Speaker 5: And I do think it presents its challenges, but I wouldn't change my decision in a million years.
00:38:55
Speaker 6: Eduardo. I feel the opposite.
00:39:04
Speaker 3: It's a joke.
00:39:09
Speaker 6: I feel the same thing.
00:39:10
Speaker 4: It was like, um, It's not the same when you be apart and then when you like inside that I see what she did and she see what I did, you know, is difficult. Like if I like things in a certain way and she like things in a certain way.
00:39:26
Speaker 6: That she's very particular with everything uh yes but it's like the.
00:39:32
Speaker 4: Process uh to learn you know like she want the kitchen be like this every night she want this bed like this every day like she don't want like have put that don't put this here they're using your shoes like I'm coming.
00:39:45
Speaker 3: You're gonna make the world hate me even more laughing.
00:39:49
Speaker 2: You're not helping Edward.
00:39:51
Speaker 4: I'm coming to her space, you know, and I need to understand the rules because she is opposite. She needs to understand the rules in the arm. You know, it's like the little things that they say about Derek the other day. So I can give you a big example with this. Before I'm coming to the country, Derek always sit down in the front seat. And one day we have a conversation. He say like, Oh, So I'm not allowed to be in the front seat anymore. So I feel bad about the kid because I'm coming from another country. I'm coming to replace something that he want to do. And I really don't care if I'm being in the back, in the back seat. So I was saying like, you know what, you don't need to, you can stay over there. So it was like a joke, you know, and in the show was a joke.
00:40:39
Speaker 3: But people, even Edward was laughing.
00:40:41
Speaker 4: I was laughing about it because like, I was, we talking about this when in the moment I was not expecting that it's coming like, you know, And like people attack the little boy and her like horrible, like do like, I.
00:40:55
Speaker 5: Think it's just that they see, or they form an opinion by one small scene and that's probably the biggest challenge.
00:41:00
Speaker 3: But yeah.
00:41:09
Speaker 4: So like, uh, yeah, we have a lot of open downs, but she's a wonderful woman. I really love being married, you know? I think like everything is a process. And right now we are the process like to be better.
00:41:22
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:41:22
Speaker 4: You know, we just learn a lot of things about one or the other. We respect a lot of things right now. We have our boundaries. And I think like this is something that helped us to be like in the next level.
00:41:33
Speaker 3: Yeah. We're growing.
00:41:35
Speaker 1: I love that answer because I think. when you're thinking about trying to adjust to one another and people have fights and you get married and you learn things you didn't know and people try to win or lose. But I heard from both of you saying your fights, even having to relive fights that are now being televised, what you're doing is you're learning, you're growing, you're adjusting. I love everything Edward said about learning how you need to be loved versus how he wants to love you. And isn't that what this is all about? It's not about winning or losing or... being right or wrong. It's about growing and accepting. And I, that's what I heard from you all this entire time. So I think it's beautiful. And I think it's brave that you all were able to walk through a very difficult time in a very treacherous path in front of the world and hear their comments and read their judgments and still be together and have your team mentality. Like that's what it's all about.
00:42:34
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:42:34
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:42:35
Speaker 5: Yeah, I definitely think that growth is the key word for us is growth. And even for me watching myself back on TV and saying like, I could have done that a lot better. You know, it's a growth experience for me. It's a growth experience for him. But I think the most important thing is that we communicate so well. And, you know, we're just trying to make it work.
00:42:53
Speaker 2: All right. Well, Melissa, we were able to tell you in person, you know, we are true fans of the show. It's been fun watching you after we met you. And it's cool now, Edward, after we watched your whole season to now meet you here. So it's an absolute pleasure. Congratulations. I'm sure we'll see you all here in New York at some point. We got to do this in studio.
00:43:10
Speaker 4: Okay.
00:43:11
Speaker 5: Yes, we'd love to. We'd love to come back in studio and see you guys.
00:43:14
Speaker 2: All right, it's absolute pleasure. We want everybody to know you can check out the 90 Day Fiance Tell All Part 3. It is Sunday, 8 o'clock on TLC and streaming next day on HBO Max.
00:43:25
Speaker 1: You know we'll be watching, but for everyone listening, are you trying to put your life back together after divorce? Well, we can help. So send us an email, leave us a voicemail. All the info is in the show notes, so follow us on our socials as well. I do part to an iHeartRadio podcast where falling in love is the main objective.
Speaker 1: Thank you.
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Speaker 2: Hey there, everybody, and welcome to I Do Part Two, the show where if you got love right the first time around, this is not the podcast for you. We are two of your hosts, Amy Robach, two in front of me here, and TJ Holmes here. We are excited to invite two guests on today. But one of them we've had as a guest before, and she brought along a guy, Rose, that I don't know how we should feel. She had to lie to us about him the first time we talked to her.
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Speaker 1: Well, lying by omission.
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Speaker 2: Yes, same thing. We're saying the same thing.
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Speaker 1: She couldn't tell us what ended up happening with her and her betrothed. Of course, we are talking about, well, I think most people know we love the show 90 Day Fiancee. And we are so excited to welcome back to the podcast, Marissa. But this time she is joined by her husband, Edward.
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Speaker 3: So it's true.
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Speaker 2: You two got married and we were all watching.
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Speaker 1: And Marissa, I said to you right before we jumped back onto the podcast, I said, when you were with us last, we weren't supposed to know whether or not you two ended up getting married at the end of the 90 days.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: When every time you were talking about Edward, you had a smile on your face.
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Speaker 2: So I left.
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Speaker 1: We were actually in person in studio and we left. And I said to TJ, they definitely got married. Did you see the look on her face when she spoke about him?
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Speaker 3: So how are you all doing? Great.
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Speaker 5: I mean, listen, it's hard to hide happiness. So, of course, I was smiling when I talk about him. It was really hard to keep that secret inside because I wanted to shout from the rooftops.
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Speaker 3: Hey, we got married.
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Speaker 5: We survived like we are great.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, like our marriage, listen, everything, just like everybody's marriages, it has ups and downs.
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Speaker 5: And we've been through quite the roller coaster since the start of filming till even now.
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Speaker 3: But right now, I think we're in a good place.
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Speaker 5: Right now, I think that our communication is like 10 out of 10.
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Speaker 2: All right. Well, Edward, before we get to your communication, Edward and Marissa, we do have to ask, how long did you actually have to keep this secret? How many months are we talking that you couldn't be out there in public? Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So- No, we haven't even been married for a year.
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Speaker 2: It feels like one, though. Edward, you can't forget your anniversary before the first year anniversary, man.
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Speaker 6: Come on. No, the thing is like.
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Speaker 3: He's thinking from when, what?
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Speaker 6: Yeah, so like I have a year in the United States already.
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Speaker 3: So we've been keeping it a secret for nine months.
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Speaker 6: Wow.
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Speaker 1: That's a long time.
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Speaker 2: How the hell do you do that?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's, I mean, listen, not easy, right? Because people go out. He always has to leave the house with no wedding ring on.
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Speaker 5: I mean, sometimes I forget, but I was like, whenever somebody sees us in public, I'm like, hi, like put my hand behind me.
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Speaker 3: And it's hard to keep it a secret.
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Speaker 5: Also, one of the most exciting things that you do in your life is get married and not being able to post wedding pictures and announcements that we're married on your social media is hard because you want to show the world how happy you are. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: And we didn't have that opportunity, but now that I have the green light.
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Speaker 1: And it's so interesting you say show the world because so many of us are used to putting our best foot forward. Anytime we post anything on social media, anytime we announce anything or we let people into our lives, we usually present the best version of ourselves, the best version of our relationship. But you all were on full display, the good, the bad, the ugly. And we actually just finished watching part two of the Tell All reunion. And look, as you pointed out, lots of ups and downs. But I'm curious, what's it like having those ups and downs with the rest of America commenting on those ups and downs? How has that impacted your relationship?
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Speaker 3: A lot. I think it's been really hard.
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Speaker 4: I mean.
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Speaker 3: Well, not for me.
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Speaker 6: Well, that's not true.
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Speaker 5: We had some struggles because I think that when we filmed, we had this agreement that when the show finally started to air, we.
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Speaker 3: Would not be affected by it.
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Speaker 5: You know, we were going to like hold hands and stick by each other's side and not get affected by the things that were said because that's in the past. And that is a lot easier than it sounds because you're watching, you know, every Sunday night we'd sit here on the couch, we'd watch the show and then Every now and then you catch a look of Edward going, what.
00:04:55
Speaker 3: Did you say? Or I look at him and I'm like, why would you say that?
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Speaker 5: And, you know, you kind of replay those moments and you replay the emotions, even though it happened.
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Speaker 3: A while ago, it's reigniting inside of you.
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Speaker 5: And then you start to kind of have a little bit of friction between one another.
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Speaker 4: And by the way, things that people don't know is that we don't know what they're going to put in a TV, you know?
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Speaker 6: So basically it's the same thing.
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Speaker 4: Exciting what somebody see for the first time. Because I don't see his solos when she talk by herself and she don't see mine. So all the time that we sit down and we see like, oh, well you saved this one, it's yours.
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Speaker 3: Did you really do that? Is that a real statement?
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Speaker 2: Am I hearing you all correctly, Edward, that watching the show damn near calls the fight every Sunday?
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Speaker 3: Basically, the wedding episode, things have calmed down.
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Speaker 5: But to go back to your question about having the world comment on your relationship, I think that I never we never.
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Speaker 3: Anticipated it to be this difficult because. Think about, I mean, you guys are a couple.
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Speaker 5: You have your ups and downs, but you're friends and you have them. They're not married yet, but soon, hopefully, right? They don't want to talk about it.
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Speaker 2: It's about you guys right now.
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Speaker 6: I'm sorry. I'm Dominican.
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Speaker 5: So most normal people have their fights in private and we had them in front of the country or in front of the world and people don't see the whole fight. People don't see all of the elements of the discussion and they have a very narrow view from what they see. Now I understand that, you know, like they're only seeing certain parts of it and they test judgment. But when you see something posted about you online and you're like, that's not me. That's not how I am. That's not how I meant that line or how I meant that sentence. And it's people are mean, you know, we, I feel, I mean, Edward got, Edward had it easy. You know, everybody loves Edward for Edward. Edward should have run from Marissa.
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Speaker 2: We do. Everybody loves.
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Speaker 6: Edward.
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Speaker 3: Everybody loves Edward. That should be his new spinoff show. But yeah, it was really hard for me.
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Speaker 5: And I struggled quite a bit with a lot of the commentary and feeling really, really misunderstood.
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Speaker 2: Can I ask both of you all here, not that you all are not trying to get you to trash producers in any way, but more so, you know, they have to leave some stuff on the cutting room floor. But can you all think of anything that you think was really and even almost intentionally misrepresented you all? in some way, short of some stuff just having to be edited out. You said a lot?
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Speaker 3: A lot.
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Speaker 4: A lot.
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Speaker 6: Even, like, they make a meme. A meme.
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Speaker 4: A meme with some part that she's saying, like, loyal boys. This is a big one. And, like, they just say that... Oh, you want to be in the camera?
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Speaker 6: Say hi.
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Speaker 3: Okay, so, Rocky, get down, honey.
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Speaker 4: So.
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Speaker 3: What.
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Speaker 4: Happened is, like, we have a conversation, and We started arguing for something, you know, and I was doing this in the table.
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Speaker 5: I was just banging the table. He was raising his voice. He was speaking very calmly.
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Speaker 6: And then she say, lawyer boy. So everybody said, you're in the restaurant, right?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I need to take accountability for this.
00:08:34
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was doing this.
00:08:36
Speaker 5: But it wasn't lower your voice. It was lower your voice with the clenched teeth because I was angry and I was embarrassed. And I was like, we're in a public place, stop. And it kind of looked like he was speaking calmly and I was overreacting. It did.
00:08:51
Speaker 2: It 100% did.
00:08:52
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:08:53
Speaker 2: They even use that, I think, in teases, like in bumps and commercial breaks. they emphasize that moment a lot. That is really interesting to hear that it didn't go down the way we actually saw it.
00:09:05
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:09:05
Speaker 5: Now I will admit the restaurant scene was highly emotional. I was very, you know, that was a long day of filming. I really wanted to just have a nice evening together. We wanted to enjoy. He, he is very emotional and he is sensitive and he likes to get deep into conversation. He likes to, you know, express emotions and sometimes my brain's not there and I want to just have a light evening and have fun. And so I was already kind of temperamental and I was hungry and, or hangry as we talked about on the show, hungry and angry. And yeah, so I take accountability for that moment in the restaurant because I was highly agitated for a lot of different reasons. And yeah, So they didn't paint the picture that I was like this angel. I mean, they painted the picture of what they were, what they were filming, which was accurate, but it's just funny that I said, lower your voice. And he, at that the scene right before the sentence right before was him being calm.
00:10:03
Speaker 3: So that was a little misleading, I think.
00:10:05
Speaker 1: That makes sense. I am so fascinated by this because obviously fights are so difficult and so personal. And even when you work past them or you get through them, it's not like everything's resolved. So the idea of having to go back and watch an edited version of your fight. together months after it happened. I think about that and I actually want to crawl underneath the table.
00:10:34
Speaker 3: Like that sounds excruciating. Yeah.
00:10:37
Speaker 1: Did you have to re, did you have to go over what you were fighting about again to get through it?
00:10:45
Speaker 2: Did it make you.
00:10:45
Speaker 1: Stronger in the end? I'm just curious how you made it past watching those episodes back. That sounds awful.
00:10:54
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was hard. I mean, I'll give you a really good example.
00:10:58
Speaker 5: There was a big moment during the season where I questioned Edward's intelligence, or at least it was framed that way. And the point I was really trying to make was because of our language barrier.
00:11:08
Speaker 3: Listen, he speaks English well.
00:11:10
Speaker 5: Thank God, because if he didn't speak English, we probably wouldn't have a relationship. But it's very hard to communicate well. deep emotional feelings because he doesn't understand every word in English is not his first language. Now, if I spoke fluent Spanish, it would be a lot easier to communicate. And we probably meet eye to eye on a lot of things, but, uh, hit the inability to communicate in both of our first languages together, put a little stress in the relationship. And I started questioning, like, am I going to be fulfilled? Am I going to be able to express myself? Am I going to be able to have deep conversations with this person? And it was really just because of the language barrier. But it came off. And I admit it. It came off like I was questioning his intelligence. And am I going to be stimulated, you know, from an intelligence point of view or whatever? And that episode came out where I'm talking with my friends. And I said that, you know, is he going to be able to stimulate me intellectually? And it came off just the way that it sounded, you know, really bad. He didn't know that because this was a scene that.
00:12:13
Speaker 3: He wasn't there. I was just there with my girlfriends. He watches back.
00:12:17
Speaker 5: We were actually separated because he was traveling for baseball and he was.
00:12:21
Speaker 3: In what we were in Georgia.
00:12:22
Speaker 6: No, I was in. Yeah, I was in Georgia.
00:12:24
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:12:24
Speaker 5: And I immediately saw the episode and I was like cringing. I was like, oh, my God. I was like, that looks so bad. And I feel so bad. So I immediately went online and I said, listen, I am not. I am not questioning his intelligence. I don't think he's an idiot. It's just that we struggle to communicate sometimes because of the language barrier. Well, I got lots of hate on that post for starters. But then when the episode actually came out, he.
00:12:46
Speaker 3: Got very upset. Very upset.
00:12:48
Speaker 5: Even though I prefaced the episode, like I said, listen, you're probably not going to like this. This is what I meant. But he got livid. And we were in separate states because he was traveling. And he was like, I'm not having this. This is out of line. I cannot believe that you embarrass me on national TV.
00:13:04
Speaker 3: And I felt bad.
00:13:05
Speaker 5: And he finally put his foot down with me. He finally gave it to me. And I kind of quivered like, like, I really upset this man and I felt really bad about it. So reliving that and having to explain and work that fight out was a really good. communication exercise in our relationship because I had to really explain what I meant, but he was very upset and it was really hard for us to get through those couple of weeks.
00:13:30
Speaker 3: I mean, it lasted.
00:13:32
Speaker 6: Yeah.
00:13:32
Speaker 2: Can you put in your words what it was like to watch the woman you were going to marry speak to you in such a way or about you in such a way, literally behind your back, but then the whole world and including your family, your loved ones could see that.
00:13:48
Speaker 4: So like, yeah, like for me, it was very hard because, um, I think no matter what I can say, I'm not going to find a way to put her down. And at that moment, that's what I was feeling. I have families and friends that everybody see the clip and start to text me, call me, like, why'd you say that?
00:14:10
Speaker 6: Why'd you do that?
00:14:11
Speaker 4: And I was in a game in that moment. And I have the ability. She was texting me and speaking to me. I said, she needs to say something so horrible that everybody started to text me and call me. And I don't have the available to like answer and respond. So when I finally go down and I finally put a moment between the games, because it's a whole tournament and I just sit down and see it, I was like in shock and I need to focus with the boys. Like it was very hard for me, you know, but like, yeah, like things like this, uh, work a lot in the point that we are right now, you know?
00:14:46
Speaker 5: You know, the funny thing is, is that, yeah, I've had different life experiences than Edward and that's, Just because of age, I've.
00:14:53
Speaker 3: Been on this earth 13 years more. But you know what's interesting.
00:14:57
Speaker 5: About him is that he has such a high level of EQ, emotional intelligence, that I can never compete with. He has the ability to really see into people and support them and nurture them and have patience with them. So far beyond what I'm able to offer to most. So I think that that balances us out.
00:15:17
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
00:15:27
Speaker 1: I'm also curious too, because you talked about those asides that you don't know what the other person is saying to camera. But Edward, I'm even wondering because I know that you can understand, I think most people can understand why there would be a level of suspicion about wanting a green card.
00:15:45
Speaker 3: Or what's his real motivation.
00:15:48
Speaker 1: But to hear Marissa's mom, who you obviously are going to have a relationship with going forward, or you would hope to, to hear those conversations about you. Normally, these things happen, but none of us actually are privy to them. None of us actually get to see what people are saying about us privately.
00:16:05
Speaker 2: Wait, your mom talks about me?
00:16:08
Speaker 3: She says really nice things about you.
00:16:09
Speaker 4: Seriously?
00:16:10
Speaker 1: But I'm saying that has to be such an added layer of tension. to have access to those conversations about you while you're not there with people who you're going to have a relationship with going forward. If you end up getting married, what was, how did you navigate that?
00:16:30
Speaker 6: So, um, first of all, I love you and Joanne is amazing.
00:16:34
Speaker 4: Um, and what she say is the true. I just learned something's very important. early in my life that I think has helped me with a lot of things. And it's like, I need to love everybody in the way that they are. I'm not here for change nobody. I like her in the way that she is, you know, maybe a couple of things, but like, like older than that. But yeah, like, because of that, I can put myself in the person's shoes.
00:17:06
Speaker 6: And it was true.
00:17:07
Speaker 4: Like, she don't know me. I'm 13 years younger than her. You know, I'm coming for, my country is not a third, third world country, but it's almost, you know, and a lot of people in my country, they just want to come to United States, you know? And yeah, like his fears and all the things.
00:17:28
Speaker 6: That she was expressed was right.
00:17:31
Speaker 4: And I'm okay with this because for not for one year, not for two, not for five, for the rest of my life, I need to deal with the people judgment because I, Right now, everybody feel.
00:17:43
Speaker 6: Like, oh, when I got my grant card that I have.
00:17:45
Speaker 4: Already, he got to left. Then they got to say, well, he got to wait to be a senior American. And then they got to, oh, 10 years. It's always a question about if I'm with her with the right reason.
00:18:00
Speaker 6: Whatever is outside us, I really don't care.
00:18:03
Speaker 4: As soon as she understand that I'm with her with the right reason, it's not a problem.
00:18:09
Speaker 2: Can i ask where does that come from were you just raised that way did you train yourself because i think what you said is very useful to everybody in relationships you said i can stop and put myself in that person's shoes and that helps you navigate some conflicts is that just how you were raised around people like that you just naturally develop but that's a very good tool in relationships you.
00:18:29
Speaker 4: Know like i think i'm too weird i'm a bit too a lot you know on and one of the things like Like my brain is like when I lose my dad. So my dad was like everything for me. So when he was a funny guy, he was making everybody laughing, you know, and he passed away in a year later, nobody remembered him. So made me realize that no matter what, how many effort you can do it with somebody else, uh, people are going to remember you in the moment, just important people in your life.
00:19:04
Speaker 6: Gotta remember you always.
00:19:05
Speaker 4: So after that, I just stopped care about opinions for everybody. And I just started like care about myself. And I, in that moment, I just realized the real concept about being loved or love someone. I think that this is something that is confused for everybody. Like, My opinion.
00:19:34
Speaker 6: I'm just thinking. I'm just translating my brain. I'm sorry for that.
00:19:38
Speaker 4: So it's basically like being in love with someone is love the person in the level that they require. Not in the level that I require. Because we are different people. So basically, when she get mad, she need space. When I get mad, I need affection. So what happens if she get mad and I'm going to hug her? When she need space, she got to be irritated. She's got to be more upset because she needs space. So when you understand that and you.
00:20:14
Speaker 3: They understand.
00:20:15
Speaker 6: I did. I just see myself.
00:20:19
Speaker 2: That's hilarious. Because, yes, we get in a fight. Me and Marissa will be off in the corner somewhere.
00:20:24
Speaker 1: On our own.
00:20:25
Speaker 2: And I want affection.
00:20:25
Speaker 3: I want reassurance.
00:20:27
Speaker 2: You two can hug it out.
00:20:29
Speaker 3: He's like, I need space. I'm like, no.
00:20:34
Speaker 4: So, yeah, like, when you realize that and you understand that, I need to love her in the way that she requests and not in the way that I request, make me understand that I need to stop doing things that I really want and start doing things that she wants. Yeah.
00:20:57
Speaker 5: You know, it's been like that in our relationship where, you know, he's very affectionate, wants affection all the time.
00:21:04
Speaker 3: And I'm not really affectionate. I show my love in other ways.
00:21:07
Speaker 5: And we're now in this point in our marriage where we're really trying to meet each other in the middle where I'm really trying to be more affectionate and show him that he's valued and appreciated. And he's trying to understand.
00:21:19
Speaker 3: That when I need space, it's give it to me.
00:21:23
Speaker 5: But can I circle back to one other thing, too, about the comments and Edward's intentions with the green card? It's really interesting, just talking about the.
00:21:31
Speaker 3: Impact of the show on our relationship. When we.
00:21:36
Speaker 5: Entered into the K-1 visa process, I had zero doubts in my mind that he was ever using me for a green card, ever. And it was important for me to show the world through the show that.
00:21:50
Speaker 5: Our relationship is genuine. He's not the person that's going to be taking advantage of me. He's going to share equal weight in this household and responsibilities, both physically and financially. And teaching him about the ways of the world in the United States was something that was a real thing because he had to learn a lot in order to be an equal partner to me. I wasn't going to be this older woman, the stereotypical older woman that brings I love.
00:22:14
Speaker 3: That people call you a cabana boy. You were never a cabana.
00:22:17
Speaker 5: That's a cabana boy, you know, back from vacation. That was never the case with us. We genuinely fell in love and it was a real story. He also had this agenda in his mind that he wanted to prove to the world that he wasn't using me, you know, and that was, you know, so I'm on this, this side saying like, nobody's going to think that I'm being taken advantage of. And he's on this side saying, I'm going to show that I'm not taking advantage of her.
00:22:40
Speaker 3: And it's really polarizing.
00:22:42
Speaker 5: So I think that that's how our personas were formed, you know, and the narrative is I'm going to be this, you know, hard-nosed, direct person. He's going to be very accommodating and show me that he's here for the right reasons.
00:22:55
Speaker 3: But when you ask about.
00:22:56
Speaker 5: The green card, it's hard when we talk about comments because I would read the comments and somehow they get.
00:23:03
Speaker 3: Planted in your brain. So if we would get into a fight. I'd be like, oh, I see.
00:23:07
Speaker 5: You're just going to be mad at me because you want to do this, and now you have your green card, so you're going to get lost.
00:23:13
Speaker 2: Marissa, you didn't pull that out during the argument, did you? You didn't say that.
00:23:18
Speaker 6: I did.
00:23:18
Speaker 3: Those comments start to infiltrate your brain. You start believing what you read. You do. You start to question.
00:23:26
Speaker 5: The intention and, and I don't feel that way. And my, my, my heart tells me that he is very 100% genuine.
00:23:33
Speaker 3: Sometimes I pull it out.
00:23:34
Speaker 5: I'm like, Oh, Oh, I guess now you're just going to go and find all the ladies that send you pictures on Instagram and stuff like that.
00:23:39
Speaker 6: That's fear.
00:23:40
Speaker 2: That's fear.
00:23:41
Speaker 1: And that's the fear of losing him, fear of him walking away, fear of being a fool and not seeing it for what it is. And yes, all those comments can get in your head. That's why we don't read comments. It's an amazing thing to choose. not to do um because we've just we've been there we know what it's like to be on the receiving end of that and it's damaging.
00:24:02
Speaker 2: And not that you're all here for advice from us but this is some that we can give through learned experience don't do anything in your relationship based on the public don't make any move thinking well they're gonna think this we have to do this to satisfy If you all just stay focused on you and your love and that house and that dog and your boys, you're going to be fine. But, yeah, we've gotten caught up at times. And, well, we got to do this or they'll say this about us. Or to prove that.
00:24:31
Speaker 1: Yeah.
00:24:31
Speaker 3: Right?
00:24:31
Speaker 1: And it's just never the right thing to do. I have another question for you all because where we left it with you, I felt for you because you all haveâ You've dealt with so many issues.
00:24:42
Speaker 2: But all at once.
00:24:43
Speaker 1: You've got an age difference. You've got a language and a cultural barrier. You've got judgment from folks who don't believe your love is genuine. And then you've got an ex-husband who is.
00:24:57
Speaker 2: Who is being.
00:24:58
Speaker 1: Extremely difficult from what we can gather. How are you navigating that? Has that gotten any better? Because the last thing we saw, y'all were both in tears over not only just the pot stirring that's going on, but Edward not feeling supported by you, Marissa, and Marissa, you not feeling understood by Edward.
00:25:19
Speaker 2: Yeah.
00:25:19
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:25:20
Speaker 5: Um, the tell-all that time period was very difficult. We were in a very, very serious fight with Michael and it was, it was, it was the worst it's ever been in the entire time that I've been, maybe not, maybe I'm forgetting some horrible puns, but like, it was really bad.
00:25:35
Speaker 6: Let's put it that way.
00:25:37
Speaker 5: And we were, you know, Michael had the opportunity to come to the tell-all and, you know, defend himself and he chose not to. And we said what we wanted to say. So things have calmed down since the tell-all. But just as we had our issues when episodes air, the tell-all now airs, Michael's not happy.
00:25:57
Speaker 3: With what we said. I can't believe you said this. I can't believe that you would actually think that I would do this.
00:26:03
Speaker 5: And the flames are starting to ignite again, and in not a good way. And he's, you know, starting to question our intentions. And he's, you know, I'm waiting for another explosion. I feel like it's really close. And, you know, I mean, we're trying to navigate with him. We're trying to co-parent with him and things have been okay, but I just, it goes like this. It's always like this. My entire life with Michael has been up and down. And sometimes it's quiet and sometimes it's very quiet.
00:26:34
Speaker 6: We try to be adults. Because this kid's involved.
00:26:38
Speaker 4: There's two boys involved and I do understand that he can feel like this because we have that. So I just try to don't respond, don't get in the same level You know, after the tell-all, I was like, have a conversation, me and him, privately. And we just sit down, take a coffee, and then say, listen, you have the opportunity to say whatever you want to say now.
00:27:04
Speaker 6: If you want to call me, like, I can talk freely. I don't know. What do you want to say?
00:27:12
Speaker 4: I say it to him, so you want to say, like, ananasso or things like this, you know. And you have your opportunity because this is the last opportunity that you can have. I'm going to give you the freedom to express yourself, you know? And I'm going to express myself. And we need to finish that meeting. Agree or disagree, but we need to respect and have boundaries. So we sit down, we talk for a while, like three hours, express yourself. He realized a lot of things. I've realized a couple of things too. And we are in the point that we respect each other. That's what we try to do, you know?
00:27:47
Speaker 3: Until next week.
00:27:49
Speaker 2: Until next week. We tried to leave it on a nice note there.
00:27:53
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. He's done a lot of work.
00:27:56
Speaker 5: He's very mature in this situation and I applaud him for taking the higher road.
00:28:01
Speaker 3: It's not always the same.
00:28:02
Speaker 4: When I say that she don't defend you or take my bad or something like that, what I try to say is their reaction, their time reaction. She take my bad. But like in that moment, I was feeling like it's too slow. And in the way that she understands, it's better. So because it happened in the moment, I was like feeling guilty because I never feel guilty. And I feel like giving myself the permission to be guilty. But when I would sit down and analyze, well, we manage the things in the right way.
00:28:37
Speaker 6: Not because of me.
00:28:38
Speaker 4: It's because of boys that are in the middle.
00:28:41
Speaker 2: How old are the boys now? Remind us. How old are the boys? How are they doing with you guys?
00:28:46
Speaker 3: They are 11 and one month shy of 13.
00:28:48
Speaker 2: How's that going with the boys? You two and the marriage and everything? How's that?
00:28:54
Speaker 6: Everything is amazing. The boys are amazing. We have a very good time all the time and experience.
00:28:59
Speaker 3: I mean, my almost teenager is.
00:29:01
Speaker 6: It's a part. He's a teenager.
00:29:04
Speaker 3: He's playing video games his whole life, playing baseball, which is good for him and Edward to bond. But the little one, my 11-year-old, is always with us. He loves to like.
00:29:12
Speaker 5: Have a lot of banter with Edward. They have a hilarious relationship, but it's actually quite good. And he always knows that when I say no, you go.
00:29:19
Speaker 3: To Edward and Edward will say.
00:29:30
Speaker 4: Yes.
00:29:32
Speaker 2: Last few things here. And I wonder if they fooled us, the producers. It looked like or they made it look like you all got really close maybe to not getting married or things got so difficult before you said, I do. Did you all get close at all to calling out?
00:29:51
Speaker 3: I think that the 90 days really tested us. They do.
00:29:55
Speaker 5: And there was a lot of moments that I, listen, I had, My first marriage was highly unsuccessful and I did not want to make another mistake. And I tend to fall hard and fast. And I did that with Edward. We fell in love very quickly. And we maintained a relationship in two separate countries. And when we finally came from living apart to living together in a second, I started to realize, is this going to work for me? Is this going to fit into my life? Am I going to truly be happy with this person?
00:30:29
Speaker 3: So yeah, you witnessed the truth. You witnessed the emotional.
00:30:33
Speaker 5: Rollercoaster of me questioning, while I love him, of course I love him, is this the right partner for me? And is this going to be the person that I'm going to take it to the end? Yeah.
00:30:44
Speaker 3: Yes, it was not a fool.
00:30:46
Speaker 5: I always I think in the back of my head, I always knew that I wanted to marry Edward. But you witnessed the emotional roller coaster of how what I was going through in those 90 days because it was hard.
00:30:55
Speaker 6: And it was the same for me.
00:30:57
Speaker 4: Like I was married before, was seven years married. And it's a lot of things that we like when we end a relationship in a bad way, you have a lot of trauma. So all this trauma is like basically a red flag and you fight with that. So like move to other country, left everything in my country and see like couple little things, you know, it's fight. It's a fight in my head. Like it's got to be the same. She got to be there and she got to change. And like, yeah, there's a lot of question about it.
00:31:32
Speaker 2: We get that.
00:31:33
Speaker 1: And then, and I just wanted to touch on it because I know this was a big theme, especially in the tell-all that we just watched, but this idea that Edward, you always wanted your own kids. Marissa, you're at a certain age and so many couples deal with this, struggle with this. Have you all figured out the way forward for you all with that idea of having a child together?
00:31:54
Speaker 5: It's still a sensitive subject for us. We agreed before we got married and even very, very early on in the relationship that I'm not having any kids.
00:32:06
Speaker 3: And he accepted that. He said, I love you. I'd rather be with you than have kids.
00:32:10
Speaker 5: And I think that my suspicions about him changing his mind, you know, came true a little bit, but I knew that he eventually was going to feel a little bit of regret by choosing a woman that wasn't able to provide children with him. In the tell-all, some ideas came up about surrogacy, which I get a thank you to the fans. So many people are reaching out to me offering to be a surrogate for our relationship.
00:32:36
Speaker 3: So, wow.
00:32:36
Speaker 1: That's very kind.
00:32:37
Speaker 4: Yes.
00:32:39
Speaker 5: But I think in our life right now, I mean, I just bought my two businesses. He's still getting grounded in his financial situation. And It's just not the right time for us. I mean, I know the time is of the essence. I am about to be 47 years old. He's still in his prime. And I know that this is a conversation that we'll keep revisiting. But right now, it's just not in the cards for us at this very moment.
00:33:07
Speaker 2: All right. Last couple of things. Do you have a happy question to end with? Because I have one more heavy question.
00:33:12
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll come up with a happy question.
00:33:13
Speaker 2: You have a happy question. And the reason I want to ask this, Marissa and Edward, is because it did. play so much of a role in this season. And Marissa, you alluded to it. Everybody loves Edward. But the people are coming after you from what they see as you talking down to him. And so I have to ask, because it was in part one or part two of the tell-all, you all were getting into it. And it stood out to me. And I remember you called him an idiot. In the heat of the moment, you said, then you're an idiot if you think blah, blah, blah, blah, blah about your egg. You think I should have my ex not be in the picture, blah, blah, blah, blah. I hear that. And on one hand, I go, how dare she do that? That's awful. And then on the other hand, I have been in conversations, in heated fights with this woman across the table with me, in which some things were said that there's no way in hell that would have come out under different circumstances and not in the heat of the moment or anger. Marissa, I'm giving you a second here to answer to those folks who look at it and want to criticize you for maybe a bad moment like that. And then there are those of us who look at it and don't like it, but also can go, yeah, I've said some messed up too.
00:34:28
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:34:28
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:34:29
Speaker 5: I mean, listen, in behind closed doors, you say things to your spouse that you probably wouldn't say in public. Um, we are unfortunately like in front of cameras and it does show the world, you know, some things that we say to each other, but On a normal basis, I don't insult him like that.
00:34:44
Speaker 3: I think it was the conversation specifically. And listen, I'm a New Yorker. I'm direct. If I feel this way, I'm going to tell you. OK, and people don't like that.
00:34:51
Speaker 5: I don't think people a lot of people could handle that aspect of my personality. But when I said you're an idiot, if you can understand that, I didn't specifically say he's an idiot.
00:35:00
Speaker 3: Edward is an idiot.
00:35:01
Speaker 5: I said, if you can't understand that, I understand. have to maintain some type of relationship with the father of my children, then yeah, that's stupid. You need to think more clearly about the situation. He doesn't understand it as clearly as I do because I have children and he doesn't.
00:35:17
Speaker 3: And having an ex that you have to share children with is not easy, but it's a necessity. You have to. So that's what I meant by that. I mean, could I've used... a better choice of a word? Absolutely.
00:35:29
Speaker 5: I mean, I regret a lot of things that I say to him. I, you know, I get fiery, I get heated. I'm an Italian from the Bronx and I say things that sometimes I wish that I didn't say. But I think, you know, I don't even know if you got highly offended by that at that moment, because I think it was just in the heat of the conversation.
00:35:44
Speaker 4: Well, it didn't feel good. But this is, this is the thing on in the way that I was growing. is basically I've never got the permission to express myself.
00:36:04
Speaker 6: So always I'm overthinking. I'm an overthinking person.
00:36:08
Speaker 4: So because of that, I just want to be in a hard moment. I don't say things like when I get angry. I can say it, but 90% of the time I don't. I just listen, understand that as I It's hyper. She's angry. And I don't try to take personal.
00:36:34
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't get angry like that very often.
00:36:37
Speaker 3: I don't yell very often.
00:36:38
Speaker 6: She did.
00:36:40
Speaker 4: I gave her time next day in the morning. Then when she calmed down and she realized, she like apologized.
00:36:49
Speaker 6: And this is what is successful in our relationship right now.
00:36:54
Speaker 4: Like when she feel that she needs to apologize because she knows that she crossed the line and she says something that she's not supposed to. Next day is apologize. She's not coming with the bullshit that people say like this. You need to accept me like that. No, she come down, realize. And if she know that I'm failed, she tell me and she apologize. So I need to apologize.
00:37:18
Speaker 6: So yeah, like.
00:37:19
Speaker 2: What did you say, Marissa? Italian girl from the Bronx? Is that what you said?
00:37:22
Speaker 6: I am, yeah.
00:37:24
Speaker 2: Who knew? An Italian girl from the Bronx and a sensitive fella from the Dominican. It actually works. It does. It does. I love that.
00:37:33
Speaker 4: All right.
00:37:33
Speaker 1: I want to ask you because some people are afraid of walking down the aisle because they think marriage is going to change their relationship. How has marriage changed your relationship? I'd love to hear from both of you.
00:37:47
Speaker 2: Asking for a friend.
00:37:51
Speaker 5: I think that, well, we have a very unique situation because basically we went from dating in two separate countries to in an instant living together and not easing into living together. I think a lot of times couples have the luxury of easing into living in the same space and seeing.
00:38:09
Speaker 3: How it works.
00:38:10
Speaker 5: And we had to make this quick decision. So in one regard, I love being married because I get to see Edward every day. We love cuddling at night. We love sleeping in each other's arms. And that is a beautiful thing, you know, that I get to experience every day. I think that sometimes it's challenging to always be on top of each other because yes, I like my space. I like my space a lot. And I think that that's been an adjustment for us. But if I were to say, is it harder or easier or better or worse.
00:38:39
Speaker 3: Now that we're married?
00:38:40
Speaker 5: I definitely say, that it is much better now that we're together and we're married.
00:38:44
Speaker 3: And we have a commitment to one another.
00:38:46
Speaker 5: And I do think it presents its challenges, but I wouldn't change my decision in a million years.
00:38:55
Speaker 6: Eduardo. I feel the opposite.
00:39:04
Speaker 3: It's a joke.
00:39:09
Speaker 6: I feel the same thing.
00:39:10
Speaker 4: It was like, um, It's not the same when you be apart and then when you like inside that I see what she did and she see what I did, you know, is difficult. Like if I like things in a certain way and she like things in a certain way.
00:39:26
Speaker 6: That she's very particular with everything uh yes but it's like the.
00:39:32
Speaker 4: Process uh to learn you know like she want the kitchen be like this every night she want this bed like this every day like she don't want like have put that don't put this here they're using your shoes like I'm coming.
00:39:45
Speaker 3: You're gonna make the world hate me even more laughing.
00:39:49
Speaker 2: You're not helping Edward.
00:39:51
Speaker 4: I'm coming to her space, you know, and I need to understand the rules because she is opposite. She needs to understand the rules in the arm. You know, it's like the little things that they say about Derek the other day. So I can give you a big example with this. Before I'm coming to the country, Derek always sit down in the front seat. And one day we have a conversation. He say like, Oh, So I'm not allowed to be in the front seat anymore. So I feel bad about the kid because I'm coming from another country. I'm coming to replace something that he want to do. And I really don't care if I'm being in the back, in the back seat. So I was saying like, you know what, you don't need to, you can stay over there. So it was like a joke, you know, and in the show was a joke.
00:40:39
Speaker 3: But people, even Edward was laughing.
00:40:41
Speaker 4: I was laughing about it because like, I was, we talking about this when in the moment I was not expecting that it's coming like, you know, And like people attack the little boy and her like horrible, like do like, I.
00:40:55
Speaker 5: Think it's just that they see, or they form an opinion by one small scene and that's probably the biggest challenge.
00:41:00
Speaker 3: But yeah.
00:41:09
Speaker 4: So like, uh, yeah, we have a lot of open downs, but she's a wonderful woman. I really love being married, you know? I think like everything is a process. And right now we are the process like to be better.
00:41:22
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:41:22
Speaker 4: You know, we just learn a lot of things about one or the other. We respect a lot of things right now. We have our boundaries. And I think like this is something that helped us to be like in the next level.
00:41:33
Speaker 3: Yeah. We're growing.
00:41:35
Speaker 1: I love that answer because I think. when you're thinking about trying to adjust to one another and people have fights and you get married and you learn things you didn't know and people try to win or lose. But I heard from both of you saying your fights, even having to relive fights that are now being televised, what you're doing is you're learning, you're growing, you're adjusting. I love everything Edward said about learning how you need to be loved versus how he wants to love you. And isn't that what this is all about? It's not about winning or losing or... being right or wrong. It's about growing and accepting. And I, that's what I heard from you all this entire time. So I think it's beautiful. And I think it's brave that you all were able to walk through a very difficult time in a very treacherous path in front of the world and hear their comments and read their judgments and still be together and have your team mentality. Like that's what it's all about.
00:42:34
Speaker 3: Yeah.
00:42:34
Speaker 4: Yeah.
00:42:35
Speaker 5: Yeah, I definitely think that growth is the key word for us is growth. And even for me watching myself back on TV and saying like, I could have done that a lot better. You know, it's a growth experience for me. It's a growth experience for him. But I think the most important thing is that we communicate so well. And, you know, we're just trying to make it work.
00:42:53
Speaker 2: All right. Well, Melissa, we were able to tell you in person, you know, we are true fans of the show. It's been fun watching you after we met you. And it's cool now, Edward, after we watched your whole season to now meet you here. So it's an absolute pleasure. Congratulations. I'm sure we'll see you all here in New York at some point. We got to do this in studio.
00:43:10
Speaker 4: Okay.
00:43:11
Speaker 5: Yes, we'd love to. We'd love to come back in studio and see you guys.
00:43:14
Speaker 2: All right, it's absolute pleasure. We want everybody to know you can check out the 90 Day Fiance Tell All Part 3. It is Sunday, 8 o'clock on TLC and streaming next day on HBO Max.
00:43:25
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