Nov. 14, 2024

"Murdaugh" Episode Eleven | The Reckoning

"Murdaugh" Episode Eleven | The Reckoning

In this episode of Exposed: Scandalous Files of the Elite, Jim continues the “Alex Murdaugh “series, with this eleventh episode. With SLED gathering evidence and the state  preparing their case, a reckoning has come for the disgraced attorney....

In this episode of Exposed: Scandalous Files of the Elite, Jim continues the “Alex Murdaugh “series, with this eleventh episode. With SLED gathering evidence and the state preparing their case, a reckoning has come for the disgraced attorney.

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Timestamps
10:14 The Law Firm Responds
20:52 The Pressure Mounts
27:07 Indictments for Financial Crimes
32:15 Murder Indictments Unveiled
34:31 The Arraignment Begins
39:26 Attempted Gag Orders and Legal Maneuvers
46:48 The Push for a Speedy Trial

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Hey, everyone, welcome back to Exposed Scandalous Files of the Elite.

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I am your host, Jim Chapman, and we are going

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to pick up with this eleventh episode in the Murdall series.

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And the last time that I left you, Alex Murdall

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had been arrested and along with cousin Eddie Smith, for

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insurance fraud and a slew of other charges related to

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Alex Murdall's supposed suicide attempt via cousin Eddie of course

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shooting him in the head on that roadside highway. So

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Murdall actually gets granted bail and he's released from jail

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on these charges, penning his trial with the stipulation that

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he surrender his passport, which he did, and that was

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on September sixteenth of twenty twenty one. Myrdal then immediately

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reports to a detox slash rehab facility in Orlando, Florida

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to get control of his addiction to painkillers, and in

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the meantime, that Saderfield case is heating up. Now I

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covered that entire Satterfield case for you in a prior

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episode of mrdall, but in the interest of remaining on

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the timeline, I need to address exactly what was going

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on during the time Merdall was in Florida at that

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rehab center. So the lawyers for the estate of Gloria Satterfield,

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they're investigating everywhere in an effort to prove the settlement

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funds did to their client were stolen by Myrdall and

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his co conspirators. And think about that, at this point

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in time, September of twenty twenty one, Murdall is not

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only the prime suspect in his wife and son's murder,

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but he's also facing major insurance charges frauds specifically related

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to the roadside shooting, and is being investigated for stealing

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millions of dollars from the Sadderfield family. All of this

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happening at the exact same time. So while he's in

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that Florida rehab the lawyers for the Sadderfield family, they

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start getting their shit together and they file a motion

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in court regarding not only Alex Murdau and his co conspirators,

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but also Murdall's law firm and it's partners known as

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PMPED now that stands for Peters Murdall, Parker, Ellswroth and Dietrich,

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and those were the partners in Murdall's law firm. In

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an article by FIT News which was put out on

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Acober fifth of twenty twenty one, it really covered it

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well and here's how that read. Less than two weeks

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after denying they had any role in the glorious Saderfield settlement,

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partners at the Murdall family law firm, Peters, Merdall, Parker,

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Elsroth and Dietrich now have a lot of explaining to

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do after a new court document alleged the Hampton, South

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Carolina firm participated in the fraudulent scheme to steal millions

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from the Saderfield Suns. Saderfield, who was Murdall's family housekeeper

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for more than two decades, died after an alleged trip

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and fall accident at the Murdall home in February of

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twenty eighteen. On September fifteenth of twenty twenty one, SLED

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opened an investigation into Satterfield's death in a wrongful death

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settlement after a Hampton County corner found inconsistencies in her death.

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Days after SLED opened that investigation, an article was published

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that revealed how Alex Murdall allegedly worked with his two

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friends Corey Fleming, an attorney, and Chad Westendorf, a banker,

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in a scheme to take millions of dollars from the

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Satterfield sons after her four point three million secret settlement

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was approved by Judge Carmen Mullen in twenty nineteen. The motion,

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filed Tuesday by Eric Bland, who was representing Satterfield's two

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sons in a lawsuit against Murdall and his two co conspirators,

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asked to bring Fleming, Westendorff, and Murdall into court to

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testify under oath about what happened to the settlement funds.

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Bland is also asking a judge to hold Murdall and

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his co conspirators in contempt of court for blatant and

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willful violations of court orders. The motion is accompanied by

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damning documents that showed PMPED employees, aside from Murdall, weren't

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aware of the settlement. The documents display a clear paper

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trail that indicated Alex Murdall committed financial crimes and flnme

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at the very least violated rules of professional conduct as

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an attorney. According to court documents, two point eight million

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of Saderfield's settlement was supposed to go to her sons,

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who are the only beneficiaries of her estate. However, Satterfield's

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two sons hadn't received a single dime from their mother's

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wrongful death settlement. That is until Friday, when Fleming and

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his law firm, Moss Coon and Fleming, agreed to a

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settlement in a malpractice case. On Tuesday, Bland received a

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check from Western Door for the thirty thousand dollars he

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accepted in the case, which means Alex Murdall is the

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only party remaining who has not agreed to pay back

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money from the settlement. Fleming, the attorney who originally represented

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Satterfield's sons in Murdaal's lifelong Friend, decided to come clean

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and pay back the money they took in legal fees

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only after multiple media reports and a lawsuit pressured them

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to do so. In fact, one of Fleming's law firm

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partners told them the Island Packet newspaper on September twenty

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fourth that he was planning on filing a countersuit against

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Satterfield's estate, claiming the accusations made in the lawsuit were false.

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Just one week after making that claim, Fleming's law firm

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agreed to settle the lawsuit. On September tenth, Bland sent

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Fleming a notice asking him to produce all of the

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materials related to the Saderfield settlement. Finally, after the Saderfield

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story made headlines in nearly every major news outlet in

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the United States, Fleming turned over the documents to Bland.

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Those documents, which appeared to provide evidence against several powerful players,

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are included in the most recent motion. Documents filed Tuesday

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show emails and letters from Alex Murdall and his pair

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of legals acting as representatives of the estate of Gloria

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Sadterfield in the wrongful death settlement. That would be Alex Murdall,

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the only defendant in the settlement, claiming to represent Saderfield's sons,

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who are the plaintiff. Hiulse Law Firm sent letters of

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representation of the estate to third parties, prepared probate documents

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for the estate and personal representative of the estate, notarized

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probate documents, etc. Recently, Blam filed emotion asking that Mullen

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detained Alex Murdall for the role in the Saderfilt settlement

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based on South Carolina law that states a person can

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be arrested in a civil case without criminal charges in

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some circumstances. And then it gets into how that scheme works, y'all.

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And it's really the most interesting part of this. It

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says at Gloria's funeral, Alex allegedly started railroading her sons

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and convinced them to hire his friend Corey Fleming to

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get money for their mother's death. However, Saderfield's sons did

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not know that Fleming was Murdall's former college roommate best

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friend In Buster, Murdall's godfather. Alex Murdall also convinced glorious

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sons they needed to have a banker, and that was

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Westendorf work as the representative of Gloria's estate. Bland later

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learned that Alex Mrdall's insurance company actually settled more than

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four point three million, with two point eight million that

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was supposed to go to his clients. Mardall and Fleming

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apparently claimed they were doing a structured settlement for the

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Soutafield sons, although this was never disclosed in court. Essentially,

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this would work like a trust instead of getting a

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lump sum. The plan if will receive more money over

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time with tax breaks. Mardall claimed that he set up

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an annuity account for Souafield son through a company called

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Forge Consulting LLC. The only problem is Cory never got

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any documents from Forge, and he's taking the direction from

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the defendant Merdall, who tells him, after you take the fees,

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write a check to Forge and send it to a

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PO box in Hampton, South Carolina. Alex Murdall allegedly told

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Fleming to make the checks out to Forge, not Forge

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Consulting LLC. After he set up in Aunt with that name.

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Alex mrdall opened the bank account at Bank of America

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under the name Forge, got the check cash and walked

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away with the money. Bland said. Fleming is claiming that

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the only money he received from the settlement was from

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legal fees. He told Bland he was victimized and fooled

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by Alex Murdall. It appears that after the Mardall family

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was thrust into the limelight following the boat crash, Alex

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mrdau was able to convince the court to drop his

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name from the caption of the document, where it would

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typically state Glorias Sladderfield versus alexmrdall. According to Bland, this

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order is concerning for a number of reasons. Alex's name

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is not listed as the defendant at the top, as

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it should be. Alex did not ask the court for

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permission to remove his name. There's no docket number listed

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on the document, the document was not entered into the court,

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and he lest other reasons for that. So of course,

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at this point the law firm has to respond, right,

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they have now been accused of knowing full well that

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Alex Murdall was ripping off the Saderfield family of millions

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of dollars, and respond they do. So, I have that

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lawsuit and it really details the law firm's side of

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this whole mess. So let's get into that. And this

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response was dated October sixth of twenty twenty one, and

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it's very interesting. It says in early September of twenty

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twenty one, PMPED discovered that, during the course of his

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employment at the law firm, Alex Murdall was converting client

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and law firm money for his own personal use. His

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actions were unknown to the law firm until this discovery,

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and these actions were unauthorized by the law firm. In

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violation of the law firm policy. In early September of

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twenty twenty one, the law firm disco governed Alex Murdall

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had a bank account with Bank of America in the

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name of Alex Murdall, DBA Forge, a fictitious entity that

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provides no services and makes no products for sale. It

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was further learned that Alex Murdau used this account to

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convert money owed to the law firm and its clients

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to his own personal use. The law firm has determined

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that Alex Murdau was able to convertly steal these funds

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by disguising disbursements from settlements as payments to an annuity company,

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trust account or structured settlement for clients, or as structured

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attorneys fees that he had earned, when in fact they

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were deposited into a fictitious Bank of America account. At

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the present time, the law firm has identified certain files

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in which Alex Murdau utilizes scheme. Alex Murdau knew that

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his actions would evade detection based on his experience with

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the law firm and its long standing business relations with

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Forge conc. For many years, Forge Consulting has provided valuable

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services to some law firm clients. Those services include burkery,

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structured settlements and annuities, as well as the creation of

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specialized trust to protect client assets. Forge is an outstanding

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company that has earned respected reputation throughout the country. In addition,

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Alex Murdau was aware that FCL has provided law firm

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attorneys with financial advice and includes structuring attorney fees. Alex

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Murdau was able to use this business relationship in conjunction

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with fictitious and misleading business aim to draft checks from

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the law firm client trust account made payable to Forge

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or Forge Consulting, LLC, and deposit those checks into his

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personal Bank of America account. The law firm was unaware

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of this scheme until September two of twenty twenty one.

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Prior to that date, the law firm have inquired on

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the status of a fee too ue the law firm

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from a file that Alex murdaull worked along with another

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law firm and they're referencing the Saterfille case. The law

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firm received a check for his expenses incurred during the

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course of that litigation, but not a check of fees

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owed to the law firm questions were guarding the check

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for the fees owed to the law firm failed to

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produce a satisfactory explanation. And here's where it gets really interesting.

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On October tewo of twenty twenty one, a check was

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found in his desk from the other law firm. According

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to the note on the check, it was a partial

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payment of the fees at issue. However, the check was

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made payable to Alex Murdall and not the law firm.

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It had been deposited into a personal account for Alex

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Murdall and not the law firm. The discovery prompted a

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review of prior settlements of cases Alex Murdall resolved. This

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review showed numerous checks made payable to Forge or Forge

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Consulting LLC, that the files did not contain the normal

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documentation that is required to perform the services offered by FCL.

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The law firm consulted with FCL on September second of

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twenty twenty one concerning the checks discovered during its review

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of Alex Murdaf's files. On September second of twenty twenty one,

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FCL confirmed that it had not provided any services for

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the clients identified by the law firm. Moreover, FCL stated

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that it had never assisted the defendant was structuring any

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attorney fees. FCL was not assisting the defendant in his

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scheme and had no knowledge of the improper use of

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its name or as conduct. So before I go any

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further in to avoid any confusion, FCL is actually a

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legit company and it's actually called Forge Consulting, but it's

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not Forge Consulting LLC. So when Alex set up Forge,

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it was intentional. He wanted the people at his law

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firm to zoom that was going to Forge Consulting LLC.

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So just to avoid any confusion there so it gets better.

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On the morning of September third, twenty twenty one, Alex

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Murdall was confronted with this information that the law firm

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discovered through its review and discussions with FCL. Alex Murdall

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admitted to converting money's owed to the law firm and

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its clients to his own personal use. The law firm

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requested the immediate resignation of Alex Murdall on September third

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of twenty twenty one, which was received that afternoon. And

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that was just remember a day before the roadside shooting

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on September fourth of twenty twenty one, the law firm

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notified the Hampton County Sheriff's Office and sled of the

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suspected criminal activity of the defendant, upon information and belief

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that investigation is ongoing. On September sixth of twenty twenty one,

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the law firm notified the South Carolina Supreme Court Office

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of Disciplinary Council of the suspected ethical violations of Murdall

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upon information and belief that investigation is ongoing. The law

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firm immediately retained a forensic accounting firm to begin a

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third review of all financial activities of Alex Murdall while

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employed at the law firm, and that review is ongoing.

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The law firm has reimbursed all client trust accounts who

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have suffered a known loss as a result of Alex

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Murdoch's action while he was an employee of the law

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firm and working on behalf of clients of the law firm.

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It's anticipated the additional information may become known that could

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lead to more losses to the law firm as it

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protects its client's interest. Upon information and belief, Alex Murdau

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used firm assets in an unauthorized manner and without the

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consent and knowledge of his or other shareholders to further

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scheme in defraud. So there you have it. That was

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their answer to it. And it's very important. The reason

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I took so much time to read that is because

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this piece of litigation right here is going to be

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a big feature in his trial upcoming, and primarily because

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it proves who the fuck this guy really is. That's low.

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When we get to the part where you discover who

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he was stealing from, the type of people he was

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stealing from, you're not gonna believe it. I mean, this

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was not just the sadderfields. Let's just say that. So

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all this comes out in obviously the paper, local news,

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national news, and the media was all over it, and

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one question that was being asked more than any other

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was how in the hell has Alex Myrnaal not been

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arrested for this? Well, a viral article that really asked

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that very question came out. It was from fit News

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and it read like this, it said. In the last

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three weeks, South Carolina attorneys Eric Bland and Ronald Richter

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have uncovered a shocking paper trail that shows how Alex

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Merdall stole three point six million from his housekeeper's grieving family.

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On Tuesday, Blad published a bombshell motion that appears to

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show evidence stacked up against Alex Merdall and his two friends,

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Corey Fleming and Chad Western Dwarf. Even his family's law

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firm was mentioned for their ledge roles in the four

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point three million secret settlement for Gloria Saderfield. The paper

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trail of evidence showed Alex Mardall led the pack in

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a scheme to steal millions of dollars in Saderfield's twenty

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nineteen wrongful death settlement. Saderfield died after a trip and

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fall accident at Alex Mardall's home. Bland has the checks

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Fleming sent to an account Mardall set up called Forge,

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and he has proof that that money was deposited into

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Mardall's bank account. We're talking three point six million in

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three checks that were sent over the mail to a

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po box and deposited into a bank, Bland said, emphasizing

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how serious a crime this is. Ordinary people who write

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a bad check for one hundred dollars are sometimes arrested quickly.

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He said, while Fleming his law firm and Westerndorf have

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agreed to pay back all of the money they took

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in the four point three million settlement from the Saderfield suns.

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Murdall hasn't offered to pay a dime, Bland said. Fleming

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is the only co conspirator who has apologized to Saderfield's

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two sons. In a statement issue Wednesday, Fleming claimed he

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was fooled by his friend Murdall, but acknowledged that material

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mistakes were made at crucial times. He claims until early

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September of twenty twenty one, he sincerely believed the settlement

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funds have been properly dispersed. The only thing Corey Fleming

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did wright is that he recovered four point three million,

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Bland said, But every single thing besides that he did

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was wrong. He violated the rules of professional conduct, violated

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the standards of care, and violated common sense. Bland, who

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is representing Centerfield's two sons in a civil lawsuit against

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Murdall and his co conspirators, said that he turned over

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all this information to SLED and he believed the documents

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provided enough probable costs to arrest Murdoff for multiple financial

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crimes related to the settlement. Including conspiracy, commit fraud, mail fraud,

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and wire fraud. SLED officials confirmed they met with Bland,

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who provided them with documentation. Bland said he is concerned

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about the status of the SLED investigation. SLED is the

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same agency investigating the June seventh double homicide of Alex

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Murdall's wife, Maggie Murdall and son Paul Murdall. Since the

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double homicide, SLED has opened four criminal investigations related to

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the Murdall family. How is Alex Murdall still walking the

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streets and not arrested in charge with theft of approximately

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three point cerio me and Bland said, my partner and

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I saw this apparent and significant crime two weeks ago

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and provided the documents to the court and to the

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public and are filing to be clear. Alex Murdau is

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allegedly in rehab right now following his September seventeenth bond

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hearing for his alleged role in a bizarre assisted suicide

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for higher insurance fraud scheme. His attorneys, who have lied

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to the public before, claimed he is in rehab for

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opioid addiction. At his bond hearing, a Hampton County judge

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ruled that Alex was not a danger to society and

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not a flight rest. The longer Alex Murdall gets to

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sit in a treatment facility and try to get himself better,

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he could possibly still commit more crimes by getting rid

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of some of the money or figuring out a way

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that it can't be traced and found, Bland said. Bland

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said his clients, Saderfield's two sons, the only beneficiaries of

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the estate, have not yet been interviewed by SLEB, which

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is concerning to him for a number of reasons. SLED

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did not comment on whether or not they have interviewed

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Saderfield's two sons. Alex needs e from the same trough

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of justice that every other citizen in our state eats from.

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Bland said, it's obvious exactly what happened, through the documents

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that are now in public domain, that he stole three

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point six million dollars from my clients. More importantly, his

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own law firm, in a public pleading, has said he

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did it to other clients using the exact same method.

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Just today, after Blam filed his bombshelled deposition that revealed

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the law firm's involvement in the Sadderfield scheme. The law

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firm pulled a fast one and filed a lawsuit that

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appeared to be damage control, distancing its partners from Alex Murdall.

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If Alex Murdall was arrested for this, it would send

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a strong message to all those he may be working with,

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Bland said, it would show that our state is serious

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and maybe we're going to be holding these people accountable

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and to look like a joke. SLUD has only arrested

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two people in the five criminal cases that are currently

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being investigated in relation to the murder All family. Alex

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Murnall and drug dealer Curtis Smith were arrested in September

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in the alleged suicide for higher scheme. However, Sled's investigation

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is far from over. Bland, who has been a malpracticed

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lawyer for more than thirty five years, said he has

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never come across a case as rotten as this one.

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I've sued over one hundred and seventy five lawyers and

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law firms. You can add them all up, and it

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doesn't equal what's going on here because this is top

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to bottom. This is judges, lawyers, money, everything, And that

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was the question of the day, y'all, as this whole

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thing was unfolding, was howl in the hell? Has he

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not been arrested for these other crimes? Really, at this point,

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the only thing he's been sitting in jail for is

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the assisted suicide insurance scheme. Now, maybe it was a

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break in the case, or maybe it was the media pressure,

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but guess what. On October fourteenth of twenty twenty one,

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Alex Murdall indeed gets arrested yet again, this time for

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stealing millions from the Sadderfields. And here is how that

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article read. Alex Murdall was arrested in Orlando, Florida, on

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Thursday on charges related to the Glorious Saderfield case. According

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to the South Carolina Law Enforcement Division SLED, Murdall was

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charged with two felony counts of obtaining property by false pretenses,

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and he faces up to ten years in prison on

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each charge. These charges stem from a SLED investigation into

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misappropriated settlement funds used in the d of Glorious Sanderfield.

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SLED officials in a statement that agents arrested Murdall after

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he was released from a Florida rehab facility for his

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alleged drug addiction. According to sources, Myrdall detoxed at the

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facility and then was transferred to another facility in Orlando, Florida,

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where he was scheduled to be released today. Mardall was

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taken to the Orange County Corrections Thursday morning. He will

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be held in Florida until he is extradited to South Carolina,

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where he will have his bond hearing. Merdall's extradition hearing

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is tentatively scheduled for one pm Friday in Orange County, Florida.

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If extradition is granted, which it was, he'll be transferred

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to South Carolina, likely on Saturday. According to sources, Murdoll's

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bond hearing could be held in either Buford County or

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Richland County. Considering the fact that Judge Clifton Newman has

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been appointed in that case, the bond hearing will likely

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be held next week. That means Murdall will likely have

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to spend the weekend in jail. All poor murder, and

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then it goes into what I've already told you about

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how they came up with all this evidence. So I'm

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gonna speed up just a bit, because all of these

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episodes that we had put out so far were to

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prepare you for the crescendo of this whole thing. So

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on October fourteenth of twenty twenty one, what I just

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read you, Murdall was arrested at that Florida Detox Center

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and he was charged with swindling millions of dollars from

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the son of Gloria Saderfield, and he was eventually jailed

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in Richland County, South Carolina. He goes for bond and

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he was twice denied bond. Then on December thirteenth of

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twenty twenty one, during a hearing at which a judge

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set his bond at seven million dollars, mister Murdall's lawyer

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said that client had agreed to pay four point three

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million to Miss Sadderfield's family. He remained in jail. Then

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on June twenty eighth of twenty twenty two, Mardall and

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Smith are indicted by the state's Grand jury. And I

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have that indictment. And this indictment is a two person indictment,

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So it's Curtis Ebwards Smith and Richard Alexander Merdall. And

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it says over the course of many years mrdall provided

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to Smith hundreds of checks with the common understanding that

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Smith would convert the checks into cash in Hollerport and

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use the proceeds for Mrdall's benefit, with the intent of

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carrying on and concealing myrid unlawful acts. Between October seventh,

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twenty thirteen, and February twenty eighth of twenty twenty one,

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Mardall wrote, at least get this, y'all, four hundred and

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thirty seven checks intended for Smith with a some value

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of two million, one hundred and thirteen thousand, seven hundred

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and fifty four dollars and seventy nine cents, nearly all

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of which were structured in amounts less than ten thousand

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dollars in order to prevent banks from reporting the large

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currency transactions as required by law. So any check over

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ten thousand dollars has to be logged and reported to

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the federal government in any way, case or form. And

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of course, being a lawyer, myrdaal knew that. So he'd

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write a check, say for nine thousand, five hundred dollars,

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and the federal government would not be alerted to that

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check being cashed. And it goes on. Murdall drew the

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checks on accounts under his control at multiple banks, and

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made the checks payable to various versions of Smith's name,

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as well as to close associates of Smith. In some instances,

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Smith forged the endorsement of his close associates without their

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knowledge or consent, then endorsed to Check himself. In any case,

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Smith converted the checks into cash or deposits. Mrdall and

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Smith structured many of these transactions and used them to

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facilitate the acquisition and distribution of illegally obtained narcotics, all

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in violation of South Carolina law. So that was count one.

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Let's go to count two, which is money laundering that

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Curtis Edwards Smith and Collington County from honor about May

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twenty fifth, twenty eighteen through May twenty fourth of twenty

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nineteen did conduct financial transactions with property that he knew

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was the proceeds of or derived directly or indirectly of

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unlawful activity. During that period, Richard Alex Murdall provided to

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Smith numerous checks with the common understanding Smith with cash

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the checks and used the proceeds for Murdall's benefit with

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the intent of carrying on and concealing myrad unlawful acts

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Murdall wrote each check and in amount less than ten

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thousand dollars. We covered that these transactions exceeded one hundred

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thousand dollars in a twelve month period, and they're talking

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about specific checks that they tracked in that time frame.

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Then another count of money laundering at one hundred thousand dollars.

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More so, they actually found some checks, y'all that were

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written for one hundred thousand plus dollars, and there were

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several counts of that as well, And most of these

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lawsuits were for the money laundering aspect, but they had

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something interesting, and that was the forgery aspect to what

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they were doing. That was a six count and it

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00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:40.480
said Richard Alexander Merdall provided to Smith numerous checks made

459
00:30:40.519 --> 00:30:44.599
to Smith's daughter without her knowledge as part of a

460
00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:49.519
scheme to launder money. Smith forged his daughter's endorsement signature

461
00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:53.279
to the checks and thereafter submitted them to Enterprise Bank

462
00:30:53.319 --> 00:30:57.279
of South Carolina, thereby defrauding the bank and other financial

463
00:30:57.400 --> 00:31:01.359
institutions party to the negotiation of the instruments. The value

464
00:31:01.359 --> 00:31:06.000
of the checks exceeded ten thousand dollars collectively, So what

465
00:31:06.119 --> 00:31:09.920
a piece of shit he's even involving his daughter in

466
00:31:10.000 --> 00:31:13.279
his illegal shit, right, but he didn't stop at his daughter.

467
00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:17.160
In count seven, it says Richard Alexander Murdall provided to

468
00:31:17.200 --> 00:31:20.759
Smith numerous checks made out to Smith's girlfriend as a

469
00:31:20.799 --> 00:31:24.200
part of a scheme to launder money. Smith's girlfriend ultimately

470
00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:28.839
resisted the scheme, so Smith forged his girlfriend's signature on

471
00:31:28.920 --> 00:31:32.839
the checks and then endorsed those checks himself. There were

472
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:37.119
several counts after that that were numerous drug charges. They

473
00:31:37.160 --> 00:31:42.279
even had a simple possession of marijuana count as one

474
00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:46.880
of these charges. Apparently when they originally arrested Curtis Edward Smith,

475
00:31:46.880 --> 00:31:49.519
they found him with some weed on him, so they

476
00:31:49.519 --> 00:31:51.599
threw that on there too. So you got like twelve

477
00:31:51.680 --> 00:31:54.680
counts here that you spend the rest of your life

478
00:31:54.720 --> 00:31:58.440
in prison, right, and that twelfth count is simple possession

479
00:31:58.480 --> 00:32:01.559
of marijuana. So they were and everything on that they

480
00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:06.559
could in that situation. So if you think it's bad

481
00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:13.839
so far, the worst finally happens when on July fourteenth

482
00:32:14.359 --> 00:32:20.599
of twenty twenty two, alex Murdall is indicted on two

483
00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:27.160
counts a murder for the murder of Maggie Murdall in

484
00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:32.319
the murder of Paul murdall what I've been working you

485
00:32:32.440 --> 00:32:38.319
towards this whole series. So what happens at this point, Well,

486
00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:44.039
now that the grand jury has indicted him, which incidentally,

487
00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:46.759
for those of you that aren't familiar with how a

488
00:32:46.839 --> 00:32:51.279
grand jury works, they work in secret. It's essentially a trial,

489
00:32:51.440 --> 00:32:54.440
but the defense at that time they don't have an

490
00:32:54.519 --> 00:33:00.920
opportunity to defend whoever it is on trial. Jury they

491
00:33:00.960 --> 00:33:06.039
meet in secret and basically the prosecution presents their evidence,

492
00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:11.119
and that jury determines is enough evidence present to warrant

493
00:33:11.200 --> 00:33:15.319
a trial? Is there enough evidence to find someone guilty

494
00:33:15.799 --> 00:33:18.640
if they think there is? That is what's known as

495
00:33:18.680 --> 00:33:22.319
a true bill indictment. That was what was issued here,

496
00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:26.079
which means, hey, we're going to go forward with the trial. Now,

497
00:33:26.319 --> 00:33:30.640
at that point, you get arrested, which Alex Murdau did

498
00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:33.640
as soon as he left that facility in Florida, and

499
00:33:33.680 --> 00:33:38.039
he got charged for those murders. At that point, you

500
00:33:38.200 --> 00:33:40.519
have an arrangement. And I'm going to play you the

501
00:33:40.640 --> 00:33:44.720
clip of the full arrangement. It's about nineteen twenty minutes

502
00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:49.599
in length. Very important. As you know, we don't skip things,

503
00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:53.319
and I don't play just little short clips and the

504
00:33:53.359 --> 00:33:55.960
reason I don't do that is it's so important that

505
00:33:56.039 --> 00:33:59.400
you grasp every aspect. I'm not going to cut that up.

506
00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:03.680
There's so much pertinent information that a lot of podcasts

507
00:34:03.799 --> 00:34:05.960
leave out. We don't leave that out here. So I'm

508
00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:09.559
gonna play the full clip. This is the arrangment again,

509
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:12.400
not too long, about nineteen minutes in length, and you're

510
00:34:12.400 --> 00:34:15.519
gonna hear some voices. One of them is the judge,

511
00:34:16.280 --> 00:34:20.800
very well respected judge by the name of Clifton Newman,

512
00:34:21.079 --> 00:34:23.360
and I'm gonna cover a little bit about him on

513
00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:28.199
next week's episode. You'll also hear the voice of the prosecutor.

514
00:34:28.360 --> 00:34:32.079
Amazing prosecutor you're gonna find out as we get into this.

515
00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:37.079
His name is Creighton Waters. Finally, the voice for the

516
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:42.960
defense that you're gonna hear is Richard dick Harpoutlian Senator

517
00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:46.159
Richard Dick Harpoutlium, which I told you a little bit

518
00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:50.079
about in the past episodes. So those of the voices

519
00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:54.599
you're gonna hear. Alex Murdall is present for this arrangement.

520
00:34:54.679 --> 00:34:58.639
And incidentally, if you are on the Patreon, I'll upload

521
00:34:58.840 --> 00:35:02.920
that full club up of the arrangement. But here it

522
00:35:03.039 --> 00:35:08.760
is the arrangement of Alex Murdall for the murder of

523
00:35:09.239 --> 00:35:12.320
Margaret Murdall and Paul Murdall.

524
00:35:12.519 --> 00:35:32.599
Thank you to said it. Good morning mon Connay.

525
00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:27.440
Sir mister Waters, now you're on a We are here

526
00:35:27.480 --> 00:35:31.760
today on the case of the State versus Richard Alec Murdoch.

527
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:36.320
He has been indicted by the Coleton County Grand Jury

528
00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:41.559
on July fourteenth, twenty twenty two, for four charges. Those

529
00:35:41.639 --> 00:35:45.679
charges are twenty twenty two GS. Fifteen five nine to two.

530
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:49.800
That charges for the murder of Maggie Murdoch twenty twenty

531
00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:50.400
two Gs.

532
00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:52.239
Fifteen five nine three.

533
00:35:52.639 --> 00:35:56.079
That is for the murder of Paul Murdoch twenty twenty

534
00:35:56.079 --> 00:35:56.800
two Gs.

535
00:35:56.840 --> 00:35:58.239
Fifteen five nine four.

536
00:35:58.360 --> 00:36:00.559
That is possession of a firearm during commission of a

537
00:36:00.599 --> 00:36:04.119
violent crime for the murder of Maggie Murdoch with a

538
00:36:04.199 --> 00:36:05.480
rifle in.

539
00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:08.159
Twenty two Gs. Fifteen five ninety five.

540
00:36:08.280 --> 00:36:10.360
That is possession of a firearm during commission of a

541
00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:14.119
violent crime for the murder of Paul Murdoch with a shotgun.

542
00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:18.639
Your honor, I am right now serving a copy of

543
00:36:18.760 --> 00:36:20.800
the entirety on Femis Council.

544
00:36:21.480 --> 00:36:24.800
Obviously, mister Murdock is present in court and represented by

545
00:36:24.800 --> 00:36:29.880
his council Dick Carpoutlin and Jim Griffin, Your honor, it's

546
00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:36.679
my understanding at this time that the defense would request

547
00:36:36.719 --> 00:36:40.159
a formal arraignment, so we need to conduct that procedure

548
00:36:40.159 --> 00:36:41.159
at this time, Your honor.

549
00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:44.719
All right, mister Harputin. Thing is that right?

550
00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:51.239
Yes, your honor? Please, yes, your honor.

551
00:36:51.239 --> 00:36:53.519
It's my understanding that they do want the formal arrangement,

552
00:36:53.599 --> 00:36:58.760
but are waiting reading of the indictments. That's correct, night,

553
00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:01.599
Richard Ellick m if that is your name, please reach

554
00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:02.239
your right hand.

555
00:37:04.239 --> 00:37:05.760
Do you wade reading of the indictments?

556
00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:07.119
Guess happening?

557
00:37:07.960 --> 00:37:10.960
What say you? Richard? Elect and Bernard? Are you guilty

558
00:37:11.199 --> 00:37:13.960
or not guisy? Of the felonies? Wherein you stand in

559
00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:17.519
dictor not guilty? How shall you be tried?

560
00:37:17.840 --> 00:37:18.280
By God?

561
00:37:18.360 --> 00:37:19.719
And my cousin? Thank you.

562
00:37:21.639 --> 00:37:26.760
You've been so Thank you Ron very quickly as we

563
00:37:26.880 --> 00:37:27.559
as we move forward.

564
00:37:27.599 --> 00:37:29.679
The first thing I need to point out is that

565
00:37:29.719 --> 00:37:31.039
Attorney General.

566
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:34.079
Alex Wilson, of course, has been a very default involved

567
00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:35.000
from the beginning.

568
00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:37.320
Of this case, providing leadership on this case.

569
00:37:37.360 --> 00:37:41.559
He's currently traveling today and understands though the need to

570
00:37:41.559 --> 00:37:43.280
get this done and so it has prevented me and

571
00:37:43.320 --> 00:37:46.480
misters Lincoln to proceed with this matter. I also very

572
00:37:46.519 --> 00:37:49.079
quickly wanted to thank my SLED agents. We have a

573
00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:50.840
special agent, Dave Ohen present.

574
00:37:50.880 --> 00:37:51.599
It has been one of the.

575
00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:55.039
Lead case agents on this and I want to commend

576
00:37:55.039 --> 00:38:00.360
them on the long and arduous investigation over thirteen in

577
00:38:00.400 --> 00:38:06.719
which every possibility was considered before the evidence. As we

578
00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:09.400
explored every possibility, all came back to one person and

579
00:38:09.440 --> 00:38:12.480
that is an ilic murder. I'm happy to detail some

580
00:38:13.679 --> 00:38:18.119
our defenses advise me that they are willing to consent

581
00:38:18.320 --> 00:38:20.480
to a no bond, So I will leave that to

582
00:38:20.519 --> 00:38:23.000
your honor's discretion whether you wish me to go into

583
00:38:23.039 --> 00:38:24.119
some of the facts.

584
00:38:23.880 --> 00:38:26.440
Or if that take care of that matter once we

585
00:38:26.480 --> 00:38:27.119
get through bond.

586
00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:29.760
I do know that the defense and the state wish

587
00:38:29.800 --> 00:38:32.320
to discuss a few motions at this time as well.

588
00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:34.840
Your earned h Sir mister Hartpool.

589
00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:38.400
Then you're right or we're consenting to no binding, as

590
00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:41.800
you know, already has a seven million dollars binding cap mate,

591
00:38:42.599 --> 00:38:47.079
and the further discussion of the alleged faction in this

592
00:38:47.159 --> 00:38:51.880
case in an open court room, we think continues to

593
00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:54.639
run the risk of polluting the jury pool, which in

594
00:38:54.920 --> 00:38:56.440
a moment, I think we can talk about a speedy

595
00:38:56.440 --> 00:38:58.760
trial in this matter which occur in this court room.

596
00:38:59.079 --> 00:39:00.920
So we don't believe it any reason to go any

597
00:39:00.920 --> 00:39:03.639
factual background. He's agreed to nobond.

598
00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:06.159
And so we can move into the more.

599
00:39:07.480 --> 00:39:10.719
Procedural motions that we have, and I think we actually

600
00:39:11.880 --> 00:39:15.440
worked out an agreement on all the emotions. So if

601
00:39:15.440 --> 00:39:20.239
we could do that, your honor, sir, your honor, beg

602
00:39:20.280 --> 00:39:21.239
you fortune daughter.

603
00:39:21.639 --> 00:39:22.679
In your honor very quickly.

604
00:39:22.679 --> 00:39:25.559
I'm gonna just add that we have, of course consulted

605
00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:28.199
with the victims in this matter, are victim advocate is

606
00:39:28.239 --> 00:39:30.559
present and some of the victims of my understanding are

607
00:39:30.639 --> 00:39:33.119
joining through the remote procedure.

608
00:39:33.199 --> 00:39:35.119
I just wanted to make sure that was on the record.

609
00:39:38.320 --> 00:39:40.719
Up well, your honor, you know there's a few motions.

610
00:39:40.719 --> 00:39:43.119
I know that that mister Harpootley and I have discussed.

611
00:39:43.639 --> 00:39:46.679
One of the first emotions that has been discussed is

612
00:39:46.719 --> 00:39:49.480
a gag order. The state has no objection to a

613
00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:53.239
gag order or mister Harpootlin disgusted with me, and we

614
00:39:53.599 --> 00:39:55.840
do agree that would be appropriate on this matter. Given

615
00:39:55.840 --> 00:39:58.760
the amount of media attention this case, as I've been

616
00:39:58.800 --> 00:40:01.199
saying all along at various on hearings along the way.

617
00:40:01.159 --> 00:40:03.159
It needs to be tried in the court room, and

618
00:40:03.400 --> 00:40:04.719
so the state has no objection to that.

619
00:40:05.000 --> 00:40:06.599
You're in an addition to that of a week, we

620
00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:09.159
have an agreement that all the starby material furnished to

621
00:40:09.239 --> 00:40:11.360
us will be even though it's not a state white

622
00:40:11.360 --> 00:40:14.960
grand theury case, we subject to a confidentiality order, the

623
00:40:15.000 --> 00:40:16.880
same confidentiality order that they use.

624
00:40:16.840 --> 00:40:18.239
In state white grand airy casion.

625
00:40:18.960 --> 00:40:20.960
It might right another that, well, yes, your honor, In

626
00:40:21.039 --> 00:40:22.840
another aspect, well, that would be appropriate.

627
00:40:23.079 --> 00:40:26.400
Is much of the.

628
00:40:25.119 --> 00:40:28.079
Information that's been gathered in the state gran why grand

629
00:40:28.119 --> 00:40:31.280
jury case, all of the eighty one allegations of white

630
00:40:31.320 --> 00:40:35.519
collar fraud and other crimes, drugs and the like, it's

631
00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:37.840
been gathered against mister Murdock over the course of that

632
00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:42.639
long investigation. A lot of that provides the background and

633
00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:45.599
the motive for what happened on June seventh, twenty twenty one.

634
00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:47.280
So that evidence blends together, and.

635
00:40:47.199 --> 00:40:48.880
It would be appropriate for there to be a global

636
00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:51.280
protective order protecting everything related to this case.

637
00:40:52.280 --> 00:40:56.280
Secondly, we propose that all motions in this matter, even

638
00:40:56.280 --> 00:41:00.840
if all about state or be sealed and subject to

639
00:41:00.880 --> 00:41:04.880
emotion by eedith party to unseal it. But rather than again,

640
00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:07.079
I mean, we're putting a position or finding emotion on

641
00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:09.639
discovery to discuss what we've been given and.

642
00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:10.679
What we haven't been given.

643
00:41:10.760 --> 00:41:14.760
And again, this is going to force us to disclose

644
00:41:14.840 --> 00:41:19.599
matters to the general public that we don't really want

645
00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:21.440
to discuss in public because we're trying to get.

646
00:41:21.360 --> 00:41:23.360
A fair trial for a client.

647
00:41:23.559 --> 00:41:26.239
Not try it in the media, but try it in.

648
00:41:26.199 --> 00:41:30.400
This court room. And I believe mister Waters agrees with that.

649
00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:33.239
In your honor, as long as there's obviously the opportunity

650
00:41:33.239 --> 00:41:37.159
of mine appropriate showing for emotions to be made public

651
00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:39.840
and for hearings to be public, then I think that

652
00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:40.639
that is appropriate.

653
00:41:40.719 --> 00:41:42.559
I think we're not talking about hearings. We're no to

654
00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:43.360
our motions.

655
00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:47.119
Correct and hearings to the extent that if there's something

656
00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:49.559
that needs we could obviously discuss things of writing and

657
00:41:49.639 --> 00:41:52.599
submit them to your honor prior to hearing and not

658
00:41:52.639 --> 00:41:56.039
have those matters necessarily put on the record. But that's

659
00:41:56.079 --> 00:41:58.880
something down the line. So Your Honor, we have an

660
00:41:58.920 --> 00:42:01.519
agreement is to confidence reality. We have agreements just to

661
00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:06.519
falling matters under seal, and I think that takes care

662
00:42:06.559 --> 00:42:07.519
of that issue that right.

663
00:42:09.360 --> 00:42:11.880
Obviously it's the judge's decision, but I believe we are

664
00:42:11.920 --> 00:42:14.039
in general agreement on those matters.

665
00:42:14.480 --> 00:42:17.000
Yeah, can, yes, sir, move on to the next matter.

666
00:42:17.119 --> 00:42:24.159
Well, let's address the matters thus far regarding a gag order.

667
00:42:24.199 --> 00:42:28.840
What's your understanding as to the parameters of a gag order,

668
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:34.840
which is I typically disfavor. What's your understanding as to

669
00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:36.559
the parameters of a gag order?

670
00:42:37.119 --> 00:42:38.679
Well, I think, in your honor, it wouldn't need to

671
00:42:38.679 --> 00:42:39.760
be somewhat limited.

672
00:42:39.800 --> 00:42:42.880
I think that obviously there needs to be the ability

673
00:42:43.599 --> 00:42:46.119
to advise the public of upcoming hearings.

674
00:42:46.119 --> 00:42:49.039
Obviously we've talked about the ability to advise or to

675
00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:50.559
move do unsealed motions.

676
00:42:51.360 --> 00:42:54.280
But I do think that extra judicial comments to the

677
00:42:54.320 --> 00:42:56.920
press would be the limits of what I see.

678
00:42:57.199 --> 00:42:59.760
But that obviously any sort of aside.

679
00:42:59.440 --> 00:43:02.159
From notice and that sort of thing, but any sort

680
00:43:02.199 --> 00:43:06.239
of hearings that take place in court obviously a fair game.

681
00:43:06.639 --> 00:43:09.760
And yeah, we would agree we're talking about extra judicial statements.

682
00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:12.679
And I'm not here, and I'm gonna make it clear

683
00:43:12.800 --> 00:43:16.599
if no indication whatsoever, if mister Waters is in any

684
00:43:16.639 --> 00:43:18.760
way made any extra judicial statements.

685
00:43:18.360 --> 00:43:18.960
Part of the day.

686
00:43:19.320 --> 00:43:23.199
But anyone that reads this constant churning out there, it

687
00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:25.639
would appear somebody is It's not.

688
00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:28.400
Him as far as I ain't know, none of his agents.

689
00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:30.519
But we want if that's violated, we'd like to be

690
00:43:30.599 --> 00:43:32.440
able to come before the court and had the court

691
00:43:32.480 --> 00:43:37.199
inquire how this material fact got out to see if

692
00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:40.000
sanctions part necessary so to be a gag order, if

693
00:43:40.119 --> 00:43:41.360
any extra judicial statement.

694
00:43:41.800 --> 00:43:43.159
I have the parties prepared.

695
00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:48.159
They proposed a proposed order that you all have you

696
00:43:48.239 --> 00:43:52.519
consented to a proposed order for me to review regarding

697
00:43:52.639 --> 00:43:53.880
the gag order.

698
00:43:54.559 --> 00:43:56.960
I will say this year honor obviously this case and

699
00:43:57.000 --> 00:43:58.719
we all know we can see what's all around us

700
00:43:58.800 --> 00:44:02.559
right now. This case is generated a lot of media attention,

701
00:44:03.320 --> 00:44:05.800
and again the state wants very much this case to

702
00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:08.239
be tried fairly and appropriately in a court of law.

703
00:44:09.039 --> 00:44:11.440
But I will say this, just because information does make

704
00:44:11.480 --> 00:44:13.480
it into the media does not mean that.

705
00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:16.559
It necessarily came from law enforcement or prosbytorial sources.

706
00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:18.800
But I think that the state.

707
00:44:18.599 --> 00:44:21.000
Is in general agreement that we want to limit that

708
00:44:21.159 --> 00:44:24.039
so that again things are handled in from Peter honor.

709
00:44:24.280 --> 00:44:29.159
In court, we'll prepare a prefoded order and.

710
00:44:31.159 --> 00:44:32.840
Try to get to something I'm sure we want to

711
00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:34.400
bring in on that and then submit it to your

712
00:44:34.400 --> 00:44:37.760
honor and hopefully buy Blake this week Growing Network.

713
00:44:38.119 --> 00:44:45.239
Next, regarding ceiling of of motions.

714
00:44:44.800 --> 00:44:47.639
Not all motions, but in any emotion which we believe

715
00:44:48.000 --> 00:44:51.239
we're discussing evidential materials. I mean, typically in a case

716
00:44:52.360 --> 00:44:55.760
like this, there'll be some concern about whether or not

717
00:44:55.920 --> 00:45:00.039
discovery obligations to do that, and we'd like to be

718
00:45:00.000 --> 00:45:03.239
be able to knock have to detail that in a

719
00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:07.039
motion that then is subject to being filed in the

720
00:45:07.039 --> 00:45:10.039
Corporate Court's office and used by the media.

721
00:45:09.000 --> 00:45:11.360
To talk about what the facts may or may not be.

722
00:45:12.000 --> 00:45:13.800
I think I think they'rein if I could.

723
00:45:13.800 --> 00:45:16.320
The appropriate way to handle that is that if mister

724
00:45:16.360 --> 00:45:19.719
Harpooling or the state files the motion and believes that

725
00:45:19.800 --> 00:45:22.639
it should be sealed, that they could file an accompanying

726
00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:24.960
motion to seal, and then that will just sort of

727
00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:27.679
preemptively seal it until the court could address that order

728
00:45:27.679 --> 00:45:28.280
at that time.

729
00:45:28.760 --> 00:45:33.119
And that's the matter which is typically done emotion and

730
00:45:34.599 --> 00:45:37.119
any motion to sealed along with the motion.

731
00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:40.320
Glogal order that.

732
00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:42.599
We want to advance copy before they file it.

733
00:45:45.519 --> 00:45:47.239
Your honor, maybe the easiest way to deal with this

734
00:45:47.440 --> 00:45:48.840
is if the state, then we'll do.

735
00:45:48.800 --> 00:45:49.239
The same thing.

736
00:45:49.239 --> 00:45:51.119
If the State would agree to give us an advanced

737
00:45:51.119 --> 00:45:53.679
copy of something and getting ready to file, give us.

738
00:45:53.559 --> 00:45:56.079
The ability to make that motion, and we'll do the

739
00:45:56.079 --> 00:45:56.519
same with you.

740
00:45:56.760 --> 00:45:59.239
We won't file anything without letting it giving you forty

741
00:45:59.239 --> 00:46:02.840
eight hours, forty eight business hours before we popped.

742
00:46:03.159 --> 00:46:03.599
That's fair.

743
00:46:04.800 --> 00:46:09.440
I just want to clearly understood that it's a public

744
00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:15.440
matter for with a public trial, and UH, certainly the

745
00:46:15.519 --> 00:46:18.679
matters that need to be sealed can be sealed to

746
00:46:18.840 --> 00:46:26.239
preserve the rights of all parties to affair an impartial trial. Uh,

747
00:46:26.280 --> 00:46:29.079
and the court understands that. But at the same time,

748
00:46:29.199 --> 00:46:32.880
I want it clear that we will not have any

749
00:46:33.280 --> 00:46:37.199
private motion hearings. Public matters will be public.

750
00:46:37.679 --> 00:46:40.800
Yes, sir, So we'll get your proposed order on that.

751
00:46:41.719 --> 00:46:44.440
Can I move on to the next week, and that

752
00:46:44.599 --> 00:46:48.079
is we've made We found a motion for speedy craw

753
00:46:49.320 --> 00:46:52.599
We note that there are two terms here, one in

754
00:46:52.639 --> 00:46:57.000
October and one in November, and we'd like to go

755
00:46:57.039 --> 00:47:00.519
ahead and get this matter before Collegeen County Jury as

756
00:47:00.559 --> 00:47:03.480
quickly as possible. Mister Murdach goes just for a number

757
00:47:03.480 --> 00:47:06.000
of reasons. One is you've heard he believes he's innocent.

758
00:47:06.760 --> 00:47:09.880
Avers he's innocent, and two he believes that the killer

759
00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:12.239
or killers are still at guard, and it's going to

760
00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:14.239
allow sway with this behind him and.

761
00:47:14.199 --> 00:47:15.239
Go look to the real building.

762
00:47:17.599 --> 00:47:21.360
The status I've already stated is willing and actually completely

763
00:47:21.400 --> 00:47:24.800
agreeable to moving this matter forward expeditiously. I'm hesitant to

764
00:47:24.840 --> 00:47:28.320
set a specific term already because there is a very

765
00:47:28.320 --> 00:47:30.679
extensive discovery and probably a number of matters that will

766
00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:33.400
be needed to address that could work out. I just

767
00:47:33.440 --> 00:47:35.760
think it's a little premature to say definitely that's the

768
00:47:35.840 --> 00:47:36.840
term we's scheduled.

769
00:47:36.840 --> 00:47:40.039
However, the state is absolutely in favor. The evidence in

770
00:47:40.079 --> 00:47:42.199
this case is substantial and it all points back to

771
00:47:42.239 --> 00:47:42.920
Elk Murdach.

772
00:47:42.960 --> 00:47:46.000
There's forensic evidence as well as other evidence of his

773
00:47:46.320 --> 00:47:48.920
guilt of these murders, and so the state is ready

774
00:47:48.920 --> 00:47:51.400
and willing to move this matter forward as expeditiously as

775
00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:53.079
could be reasonably done.

776
00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:53.679
In your honor.

777
00:47:53.760 --> 00:47:55.920
We understand that it's just a water to believe if

778
00:47:55.920 --> 00:47:59.800
it's a pudential evidence, pro forensic and otherwise. Our response

779
00:47:59.880 --> 00:48:03.719
to that is he's wrong, and that's why a jury

780
00:48:03.760 --> 00:48:06.039
will sit in that jury box.

781
00:48:06.480 --> 00:48:09.440
Is it that dury that journey.

782
00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:13.239
Like one of those that's the grand jury les and

783
00:48:13.840 --> 00:48:14.800
old timey courthouse.

784
00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:16.239
I forget which side we go with.

785
00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:19.159
That jurybox, go right there, hopefully within ninety to one

786
00:48:19.199 --> 00:48:21.760
hundred and twenty days, and decide whether that is substantial evidence.

787
00:48:23.280 --> 00:48:26.000
Right now, there's October term with George Mullen and she

788
00:48:26.079 --> 00:48:30.639
forfears herself, and November term with Goldsmith Brooks Goldsmith.

789
00:48:30.159 --> 00:48:31.800
In Lancashire County. Those are already set.

790
00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:34.360
I don't know that we need to get into that today,

791
00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:37.639
but we are going to be pressing for a trial

792
00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:38.840
as quickly as possible.

793
00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:40.079
In that Vein.

794
00:48:40.159 --> 00:48:43.000
Last week we serve discovery motion on the state. They

795
00:48:43.039 --> 00:48:45.440
have thirty days under the rules of respond But this

796
00:48:45.480 --> 00:48:47.559
matter has been under investigation for a year and a half.

797
00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:50.519
It may be extensive, but it ought to be easily

798
00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:54.079
accessible and we out be able to get back in

799
00:48:54.320 --> 00:48:56.360
two and a half weeks and begin the crosses of

800
00:48:56.400 --> 00:48:57.360
coming to it our seven.

801
00:48:57.800 --> 00:49:01.159
We've already provided them substantial discovery in the other matters

802
00:49:01.199 --> 00:49:05.840
and we will certainly comply with our obligations, and your honor,

803
00:49:05.920 --> 00:49:08.800
I think that once we start that process, and I

804
00:49:08.840 --> 00:49:10.679
know and I agree that we need.

805
00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:12.159
To move this matter forward expeditiously.

806
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:14.159
What I don't want to have happened is for the

807
00:49:14.199 --> 00:49:17.000
defense to be screaming speedy trial on one hand and

808
00:49:17.159 --> 00:49:19.800
screaming about discovery on the other hand. This is a

809
00:49:19.880 --> 00:49:22.239
very aggressive timeline, which we're in favor of, but I

810
00:49:22.239 --> 00:49:24.199
think we need to see how things develop and find

811
00:49:24.239 --> 00:49:28.400
the most reasonable expedited term we can, And I think

812
00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:30.519
we need to start this process for a few weeks

813
00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:32.519
and then make an assessment at.

814
00:49:32.400 --> 00:49:34.960
That time of what is a reasonable term that might

815
00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:35.639
be January.

816
00:49:35.719 --> 00:49:39.840
Obviously, mister Senator Harputliin has his legislative obligations at that time.

817
00:49:39.679 --> 00:49:41.880
Which I will weigh, but which I will waigh.

818
00:49:42.639 --> 00:49:47.039
It seems like, probably, given the realistic expectations in this matter,

819
00:49:47.199 --> 00:49:50.360
that January would be a very aggressive and reasonable timeline.

820
00:49:50.480 --> 00:49:52.480
And we may disagree on that, but you're honor, I

821
00:49:52.480 --> 00:49:55.360
would point out they spent over a year investigating this,

822
00:49:55.679 --> 00:49:57.880
they took it to a grand jury. They should have

823
00:49:57.880 --> 00:49:59.960
Provid's ended them with all the evidence that would have

824
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:02.760
convinced that grand jury beyond of evil about and so

825
00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:06.559
it's there as accessible and you ought to be. I

826
00:50:06.559 --> 00:50:08.599
mean most of it's electronic. I suspect they could hit

827
00:50:08.599 --> 00:50:10.840
a button and spit it out. We're not going to

828
00:50:10.960 --> 00:50:13.079
argue about discovery because I assume they're going to give

829
00:50:13.119 --> 00:50:16.800
it everything that would be the scientific, everything under World five,

830
00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:18.559
everything under Brave, and we're not gonna have to fight

831
00:50:18.599 --> 00:50:21.519
about it. So we make we made a motion from

832
00:50:21.519 --> 00:50:24.840
speedy trial. I don't know that we need to until

833
00:50:24.840 --> 00:50:26.320
your Honor decides how to address that.

834
00:50:26.320 --> 00:50:28.719
There's no recent process graphic order on that. Is that correct?

835
00:50:30.360 --> 00:50:34.000
It's for a speedy trial. Yeah, I mean again, we.

836
00:50:34.199 --> 00:50:36.000
I think we need to starve the process, your Honor,

837
00:50:36.000 --> 00:50:38.199
and then maybe reassess this matter in a few weeks.

838
00:50:38.760 --> 00:50:42.119
Well, the defendant has a constitutional right to a speedy trial.

839
00:50:43.400 --> 00:50:49.599
That being said, however, I am totally unaware of the

840
00:50:49.639 --> 00:50:54.920
status of the docket here in Callington County. I do

841
00:50:55.039 --> 00:51:00.280
not know if the Solicitor's Office for this circuit already

842
00:51:00.320 --> 00:51:06.679
has day certain trials scheduled there, or what other matters

843
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:15.239
that currently exists that might be scheduled already or anticipated

844
00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:19.760
by or whether a special term of court might become

845
00:51:19.840 --> 00:51:22.880
necessary to try this case in your.

846
00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:26.320
Honor what we talk to people, But apparently there's no

847
00:51:26.400 --> 00:51:28.760
motion for speedy trial in any case pending in Fulton

848
00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:31.559
County right now, so we're the only ones to ask

849
00:51:31.599 --> 00:51:34.440
for them.

850
00:51:33.360 --> 00:51:35.320
If that makes a difference. And again we understand it's

851
00:51:35.360 --> 00:51:37.000
totally within your discretion.

852
00:51:36.920 --> 00:51:37.800
Not mine, not it.

853
00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:42.199
So we just want you to consider that. And again

854
00:51:42.360 --> 00:51:43.880
I bring up into the water. It's not something to

855
00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:49.000
rule on together, so fake of course and whatever.

856
00:51:50.199 --> 00:52:12.079
That's okay.

857
00:52:13.000 --> 00:52:13.719
I think you're out of that.

858
00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:27.599
Everything that the next up for today.

859
00:52:22.360 --> 00:52:24.960
Especially a gentoen Is there anything you would like to

860
00:52:25.480 --> 00:52:30.159
uh state pertaining to the matter share, No, is there

861
00:52:30.199 --> 00:52:35.519
none at this time m any h victim input anyone

862
00:52:35.840 --> 00:52:41.480
wishes to address anything from victim's perspective today, we've met not.

863
00:52:41.599 --> 00:52:43.280
Been advised of any specific.

864
00:52:42.960 --> 00:52:48.159
Input uh anything further than.

865
00:52:49.199 --> 00:52:51.280
Not for the defendant none from the state.

866
00:52:51.639 --> 00:52:59.480
Alright, bond will therefore be denied, uh hand matters discussed

867
00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:03.800
this morning. It would be addressed in written orders where necessary.

868
00:53:06.360 --> 00:53:11.159
Man, Thank you all, And next week everything I just

869
00:53:11.320 --> 00:53:16.239
told you in some eleven episodes now will start to

870
00:53:16.320 --> 00:53:19.559
make sense. You will start to see why it took

871
00:53:19.800 --> 00:53:24.320
so much time to explain everything to you before I

872
00:53:24.440 --> 00:53:27.440
jumped right into a trial, so.

873
00:53:27.519 --> 00:53:28.760
Get ready for that.

874
00:53:40.840 --> 00:53:44.440
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