S3E1-"We'd Explain The Delay, But We Forgot Why" Blame Our Knees and Hips

0:06 Two three, Season three? Is my microphone on? I sure hope. So let's hope Carries is on this year too, because it'd be nice to finally hear from him after two seasons, don't you think anyway? Welcome to season three? What was that? I'm just getting ready? Baby? How does it feel? Is it weird? I don't know. I feel a little nervous. I do too. I was nervous too. It wasn't that funny. So I was checking. I don't I couldn't find the last date that we actually recorded in December. That last episode was released January eighteenth, Okay, but I couldn't find on my calendar what day you and I actually the recording.

0:47 It was obviously before Christmas? Yeah, and here we are. It is today's March fifteenth, so three months. By the way, he's he's done. And you're Gary right right, yeah, as Miranda Priestley said, and the Devil War's product too, it took you long enough. I got I lost. I got lost in. My ways right right? Well? I mean, do we want to just jump in or do you want to just stop and start again? What do you think a little rusty? Aren't we all? Please? My bucket's a little you know, full of kelp. And talk about your bucket, because then we'll have to talk about mine, and wants to talk about see you.

1:35 I'm excited about season three. Why don't we take a break. We'll put on our new graphics and right back and then we'll let yes, yes, hopefully hopefully. Anyway, we'll be right back. Okay, don't go away. Took you long enough to get to here, freeze freezing.

2:31 Hi, Hey, welcome back to season three three. Can you believe it? I can't believe it. I really can't believe it. It's amazing. We both look amazing. I barely recognize you. I'm a little nervous from coming back. I'm not sure if you are. What showered and that helped calm me down? Okay, good, well, I'll try showering after I talk about my projects. Anyway. This is the Don and Gary podcast, proving life doesn't end at sixty. It just needs better life and more caffeine exactly. You can find us on all the platforms. You can find us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Deezer. You can find us on Instagram and Facebook. We're also on YouTube at the five for pods so please join us there, and let's not forget our amazing website sponsored by pod Page. We got new graphics and new things exactly.

3:25 So Gary, what are we talking about this week? Well, it's our first episode back, so we're kind of just gonna start off nice and easy and just a little recap, maybe give hints about some upcoming episodes, because of course we have more guests lined up. We'll be recording soon. But the last episode we release was in January, but we recorded that in December, so we're talking like a three month sabbatical. This is the longest sabbatical we've taken between podcasts. Even with three p's, we didn't take this long break. Well, we are older, so well speak for yourself. I am older, you know, well I guess i'm older too. We'll talk about that this season too, I guess, because that's definitely a factor in our lives right now. But yeah, this is the longest break we've ever taken from coming back.

4:13 So from your. Perspective, why did it take three months? You know, it's funny to ask that because I wanted to make sure and I'll just I'll backtrack this week. Actually, Anthony's back in Boston and visiting his family. So I kind of needed a true reset. And what I mean by that is things have been plugging along since December and the holidays. We went into the January and then I just kind of just started training through work and life and everything going chug a chug chug. It's actually given me the chance to be find some down quiet time and relax and truly get back into being creative because I truly think that what we do is an art form. But it yeah, because we were so amazing, but also because it takes a little bit more energy to get back into the drill of it and get back into the graphics and editing and doing all this podcasting.

5:03 I love it, but it did take me a little while to reset. But I've been doing a lot of things. Yeah, how about you? How about you? For me, well, you mentioned to you think life and work, I mean they just, you know, they keep going on. You have to, you know, keep up with it. So for me from a work perspective, it was a little stressful for several weeks because there was some personnel changes and things that came up, so a lot got dumped on my lap. Who've since brought on someone new, So that's kind of helped alleviate some of the stress because there were nights where I was just was not sleeping. Well yeah, just because. You know, you just run in your mind, just running through everything and what I have to do the next day, and I'm like, you need to like set that aside, get some sleep, get some downtime.

5:48 So that was challenging for me. And the usual just not that there was a lot of events, but I do a lot of volunteer work, so there's always meetings and things that I've got on my calender. And then a couple of friends have gone through some health challenges, so that kind of adds to your stress and your. You know, concern and and all that. There was one week, just about two weeks ago where it was like one thing after another. So Monday, I went to a vigil of that week because there was in the neighborhood there was a pedestrian, a mom and her two year old who were crossing the street and the mom was injured and.

6:29 The two year old was killed. Oh my god. Right, So I mean that's just the whole neighborhood just you know, reacted to that. So we I didn't know what. I didn't know them, but I just you just want to do something, So we went. I went with some other neighbors and went to the vigil. So it was Monday. Tuesday was when I found. Out about one of my friends having a health situation. So the next several days was visiting in the hospital, you know, and checking on them, and and then by filling in some friends on what had happened to this person. Another friend said, oh, by the way, I haven't shared with you, and this person is also going through some health challenges. Wow. Okay. So then Saturday, I'm visiting my mom and ran into a neighbor of hers, and that neighbor their relationship of twenty plus years ended abruptly.

7:14 So it's just like what after. The only bright light out of that week was a friend did say that he and his wife are expecting their second baby. So it's like, okay, finely, And. You're your family's growing quite large too. I mean, you've got a lot of nieces, now, don't you. So yeah, So of my adult nieces and nephews, some of them married, and so of them, three of them have children. So the oldest is two and a half, the youngest is ten months. So yeah, there's My mom has three great grandchildren, wow, two of which one lives southern California, one lives out of state. So that's the challenge is that, you know, we don't get to see them very often.

7:55 But and what the relationship from great grandchildren to you. Are you a great uncle? I guess I would be a great uncle. Yes? Are you a great uncle? I'm a great everything. Yes you are? For season three, you are. Yes. So that's kind of the things that just kind of been popping up. And then so you know, work a settle down. Today's a busy day because it's Oscar Day. That's right. That's right. So I'll be heading down to the South Bay to hang out with the friend of washing the oscars. That's our yearly tradition, which would be fun, and we'll we'll talk about oscars at another and another episode Hollywood of it All.

8:36 Let me ask you about a quick question. Have you seen any of the movies that are nominated? I have not. I have my back, you know, because we fill out a ballot as part of the fun. And I'm looking at it and I might recognize in terms of the actors, I'll recognize some of the names, but I've not seen a single one of those movies that are nominated. Is that a first for you? Yeah, I mean I don't usually see all of them, but I try and see a couple of them. But I don't go to the movies. I love movies, but I just the last thing I saw in the theater I think was the second installment of Wicked. Okay, but I just don't go to the movies very often. I don't know either. I don't either. The only time we truly go is when we're in Palm Springs is it's one hundred and twenty degrees outside and we go to the senior special over at the at the Mary Pickford.

9:23 It's like three dollars reclining seats, a diet coke, and a bar and a bucket full of popcorn, and you've taken ane. Well. I will say that while I did want to see Wicked the movie, I went to this theater in the Mission District, which back in the old days it was a movie theater shut down, then they reopened it, one of those fancy ones where they serve food, and it's so that I never I'd not been to that theater so I went. But because I saw on their website the food and stuff that they offer, and one of them was a boozy milkshake, I'm like, I'm all for that. So that was kind the main reason why I want. Do you even remember the movie?

10:04 Well, no, I do remember the movie. But the problem was, and I said, you know the waiter k because they come to your seats. You have like push a button and they come to your seat, like, yeah, I want to get the boozy motion. Oh yes, I We're not serving them today like son of them, I'll have a diet coke. With malice. Man. That just pissed me off, So I was I left a little bitter. But uh, but no, to your point, so I've not seen any of the movies, so I just well, here's what my tradition every year is that I keep track of the winners of the various award shows leading up to it, the Golden Globes and the sag Awards and the BAFTAs and all the and my little spreadsheet has a column and I and I check so see if there's a trend like, oh, this guy has won three out of the five, so I'm gonna pick him. That's that's my logic, okay, and this the year is I'd have been all over the place, so there hasn't been like one clear cut winner in any category, well in the major categories. So I go in blindly and you know, whatever it is, what it is, Okay, But oh yes, I'm doing that tonight.

11:16 And then I don't know if I'm no. I didn't mention before, but the only thing I'm looking forward to next month I'm going to Disneyland. I'm very excited about that. Okay. Why why is it such a thing for you? Why is it such a drum well? I mean, come on, what adult doesn't want to feel the kid in them again? And go back to Disneyland? I mean I've gone, have you been? Yes, I've been way back in the day, back in the nineties, I think with a boss of mine that really loved Disney and went to it. But I haven't been back since. That's gotta be what thirty years I went. So my you know, my parents took us the four boys, and you know, when we were kids, so there's like, what's a black and white photo, that's all I'm a cut was for the first time, so I was probably you know, six or seven, okay, well, and then as an adult, I've gone several times, but it's probably been.

12:06 Eight years is that I've gone. And two years ago, when we were doing three P's, I think I had mentioned on an episode that in Instagram there was something that came up about Disneyland about like a free tickets or diskoind of tickets, and like a fool, I signed up for it end uping some kind of scam. And so one of our guests, Christine said, Gary, you know who I work for. I can get you discounts. Or or day passes. So two years ago she sent me two one day passes. Wow, and they're good for two years. So I have to use it by June of this year. So the rest of twenty four I went by, twenty five went by, and I'm like, you're gonna need to use them. So I reached out to John and I'm going to fly down San Diego and he and I are going to drive up to Anaheim.

12:57 We're going to use the one day pass on Sunday of last Sunday of April. And then I bought a second ticket because I want to go a second day because it's a lot to see it try and cram everything in one day. And even the Monday ticket was cheaper than buying on the weekend, and that I want to say, it was one hundred and forty dollars. How do they afford to do this? I mean, I know some families that go every year, and some people I know go a couple for like a couple of weeks or something. It's like, well, you know, they offer like you know, year year passes, which I assume will offer you considerable discusts. But to your point, when you have a family, parents and one or two kids, that's just the entrance. Then you've got food, right and.

13:39 Then oh you don't want to wait in the long line, Well if you buy this fast pass, this will get you to the you know. So there's so many tricks and shorty, it's at all all cost money at airfare and hotel and so. Right, So what's the thing about it that you like? Though? I mean, is do you like the magic of it all? The rides of it all? I mean what I do like rides like the roller coaster, you know, and it's a small world and all those you know, they're they're kitschy things there. But I think she's the kid in you remember when you were a kid and you see them. And I was never like a big Disney Fanly, I didn't see a lot of the Disney movies. I didn't grow up with that. But I think it's just again, just for for the kid in you. It just yeah, it's like a safe place, right, a happy place, right, so right freaking amazing, right, I mean because I got Airfair, I got hotel meals.

14:33 And then yeah, no, I get it, I got it. Yeah, So it's just for the pure fun of it, just to relive my youth. I guess who knows, Hey, why not do it while we can exactly? We forget about our youth. Yeah. And also my brother and I are talking about doing a small family trip to Mexico and take my mom home because she'sn't back. And while I've not been back and visited relatives in Mexico in twelve years. Didn't you your mom on a plane one time and send her back to Mexico. I've never thrown my mother anywhere anywhere? How dare you that woman? There were times where like I would fly down to La with her because there's no direct flights to Maslan which is where normally she'd fly, so I would I a couple of times, I flew down to LA with her, put her, put.

15:20 Her on a plane. They had just throw her on a plane, put her on a plane, and then I would fly back and then when and then on the return trip, i'd fly back down to LA meet her and then. Fly home with her. But she's gone, but it's still been a while for her too, And I got a lot of peasants that live there and they would love to see her, and I've love to see them because I've not been in year. So just time off, you deserve it. But it's also the timing of it, because if you wait too long, it's too god damn hot down there. True, their summers are brutal, so it has to be like in the spring before the heat starts, or wait till the fall. And I think my brother's looking into it now, so I think we're going to go sometime. Nice before May. It can be coming up soon and I'll see you.

16:03 Depending on how long the ago I'm we can only go for a long weekend or some people figure it out. Gods, I can't take that that much time off from work, especially as you land. Well, hey, speaking back to three Piece, I wanted to mention this. We talked about it briefly. I did not realize and I think I shared this with you. But can you believe that we are still getting so much traction out of that podcast right now? I think I shared it. Yeah, I mentioned it, and I just put it down again. The we've actually downloaded over close to three thousand episodes from that three was it for four seasons? I forget how many we did three or four seasons, but we downloaded that about that many, and just the other day we had about thirty three. I know it doesn't sound like a lot to the millions that we downloaded this podcast, right, I know the fact that this episode these this podcast was actually about three years old now, and it was from a few years back. It's the fact that it still gets downloads. It's like, thank you audience, right, it's amazing.

16:57 Now we don't have to go in detail now, But does it bring down like which episodes got downloaded the most? It does, and I don't have that with me, but more the more recent ones are the ones they get. But I gotta tell you, we crack ourselves up. I think pretty funny. We were pretty funny. All three of us were really funny on that podcast. For those who may not know, Don and I and another friend John started a podcast back in twenty I want to say May of twenty twenty one. We started talking about in September of twenty during the pandemic, the three of Us conversion of Santa Barbara, and out of that visit grew the idea for a podcast, and in May of twenty twenty one we started. And it's called Three Peas in a podcast, and I think, and then the sub title is after that is is it gay in here?

17:52 Or is it just me? The long ass title? We were funny And the reason why the three piece is because all of our last names started with starts with a P. And who came up with that brilliant title? I think you did? You come? Yeah? I here you are. You are the vision genius. You are the vision monster for all things because you are the one that comes up with half of our episode titles. You came up with that title for our episode or our podcast before. You're a genius and you're very smart about those kinds of things. They make a lot of sense. And the premise of that was the three of us, just because we've known each other for so long, share a lot of stories, some serious, some funny. We had guests on as well, but it was it just it was a lot of fun doing it, so that we did that for about three years.

18:42 I think a moost four maybe four, but befween and a half, I don't know, right, Yeah, but yeah, if you if anybody wants to listen to them, they're still available on Apple podcast on Spotify. It was before we got the technology under our belts and our wigs to be able to do video, so there's no YouTube channel on it, but you can actually listen to any of them and there. We actually still have an Instagram page. There's a lot of video on there too, so it's actually quite fun. It's like sixty something episodes we did, I. Think, yes, I guess, I mean, which is a lot considering most of the podcasts that I hear about don't make it past three or four episodes out in the world. Wow. Really, Yeah, surprised, I'm all sting out there. Well, there's there's us and then there's everyone else, right.

19:24 So you can hear the younger versions of us before we turn sixty Yeah, we were funny then and we're funny now. So this season, Yeah, we've got more guests coming up. We already have two lined up for sure. We're working on a there's a third one who just said, yes, we just have to pick a date. And I'm working on a couple others. And I think you're working a couple others. So and we still have to let Marty out of the can. Yes, poor Marty, Marty, we love you and we didn't forget about you. We recorded your episode several months ago, but you are the next one that gets released after this one.

20:08 This is our intro. And even though you're number two, Marty, you're number one. You're always number one in our hearts. Marty, and we'll let you out of the canon. Think how we stuck holes in the can so you can actually. Breathe through it exactly. Just we need to let him know so he. Knows that we didn't forget about it. Yeah. Yeah, so more fun, more frivolity, more guests. I just saw an. Article on Instagram that I'm going to do, you know, extract information from there. But the question that came up was about retirement, and like, let me see if I can the title is what's the biggest thing? Well, I should probably read the whole title, what's the biggest thing?

20:55 What's the biggest thing? You're still trying to figure out about retirement? Oh so that kind. Of intrigued me, and there's a bunch of responses. So I'm going to go extract the responses from that and then we'll talk about that in another episode, because that's one of the things we talk about as being that we are doing sixty is if you haven't already had that conversation about retirement, when. What does it look like? Am I looking forward to it? Am I dreading it? What age? I mean? I don't know if I've asked you, have you figured out at what age you want to retire? Yes? And actually, as part of I still have to tell you all the things I've been up to this last few months. But my husband actually recently retired literally about a week ago. Yes, yes, so it was quite a momentous change. It took a lot of preparation, a lot of mental preparation, not for me, but for them to actually get to the point where you know, basically it started with a very serious conversation with our financial planner to see what that truly meant. Sure, and then it took a little bit more because you know, again, one of these things we all factor into retirement is how long do I want to work? How long do I need to work? And when I if I don't work?

22:09 What is that? Like you said, what does that even look like? And it's a much bigger question than anyone realizes, I think, I think. So, yeah, Now, the thing is you have six I've seen a bunch of Ted talks on this too, and basically the first six months is the honeymoon period and then on day one after six months, it's like now what now? What? Yeah, So you got to have a plan. It's not just retirement nothing. It's retirement and plan for your retirement. And pre planning, especially when it comes to medicare oh yes, right, because they say you have to sign up like at least six months before correct to kind of lay the groundwork. Yep. And if you're transitioning like I'm planning on transitioning to that a few months prior to my Becuse, who knew I'd be the older one and still working. That's the one that that was not in the script. I did not.

22:59 Plan for that did that piss you off? It kind of did, but that wasn't the plan. But the thing is transitioning now because you know, we'll take on my medical coverage while I still work, but then there's maybe a time when I don't want to, so we have to figure out like the jump from having metal coverage to medicare right, So there's a it depends on whether I walk work it all the way to sixty five, which is years and years and years from now, who knows when. So yeah, I mean so there's lots of things to think about, patpoint. I think that's a whole episode for us. Actually, will weave that into that? Yeah, So so you mentioned things you've been up to, so tell tell me. Yeah, so a few months I wrote them down. So, first of all, I've been juicing. Do you know what that is? Not? Not? Not testosterone?

23:47 Do you remember it's a family show. So I've found and I know this sounds silly, but I found the benefits of you know, I don't. Do You don't drink a lot of coffee, do you. I don't drink a lot of coffee. Okay, good for you. Because I usually had a whole routine and we talked about how much this money costs to do a Starbucks thing? Because if every day your routine, like myself and many many other people up to a certain point, was go to Starbucks, get a cup of coffee, get a Danish or a sandwich or something, and go on to work, and then in the middle of the day you probably get another cup of coffee, and if you're really into it, the second half of your day, you probably need a third cup of coffee. So I looked into that for a while and I saw how much that was costing us. So if you think about a basic Americano that I get with an adshot is about five bucks. So let's say you have fifteen bucks just in that the food's another five bucks. That's twenty dollars.

24:38 So you could literally spend any from twenty to thirty dollars a day just on Starbucks. And what does it really get you? So what I tried this experiment. There's a place called Press Juicery. Let me say that again. There's a place called Press Juicery. Maybe they should be our sponsor, because what I found was the amazing thing is like, if you're doing like I, let go of coffee in the morning and instead I get a couple of juices. They're not inexpensive, but they're actually spread out over the week they're okay. So basically what I found was letting going coffee and doing either green tea or water with lemon or something plus this juice. I had so much more energy throughout the day than having some carbs in the morning with a bunch of caffeine that only gives you a spike and then you come down.

25:24 So that's the big thing. I'm totally into the juicing right now. I just find that I have much more energy throughout the day and towards the end of the day. So that's something I've been really into. I loved it. We did have the soft opening of Cafe Carnegie. I don't know if I told you about that. Now we live on Carnegie Lane and we actually spend a lot of time on the terras upstairs and the hub. Since he's near the retirement stage, decided to set up a whole bar table on the side of the house which is our terrace wraps around the house, and you built this whole thing which has a divider on it, there's lights over it. You had there's a table on a couple of chairs like a bistro. It's really amazing fancy. Yeah, it's very fancy and very exclusive. You can't get in, so you have to set a reservation for months in advance.

26:10 You need a key or a number. You well, you a secret handshake ooh a wah, a wah a wah. And then you from the Flintstones. Oh, never mind. Anyway, you need a secret handshake to get in. So that was something that we spent a lot of time on. That was fun. Let's see baking. I finally embraced baking again because for the longest time I was discouraged because none of my bagels were coming out right. My pizza dough was flat and my Danish was dead. So I got, who hasn't loved your bagels? Well, I did a bagel palooza a while ago, and the neighbors were very pleased because I used my neighbors as a test or the lab rats. Yeah, they don't keel over after I passed out some bagels. Imagine this.

26:54 I actually follow the recipe to the letter now because baking is so precise. Oh you have to yes, well, yeah, I didn't know that till I didn't know that, so I've embraced that. So we've had a couple of baga paloozas, and I'm really embracing the baking because I'm taking my time and I'm also using that I forget. There's I'll look it up there and I'll put it on here somewhere. But there's a technique for having all of your items prepared in small bowls before you put them into your recipe. There's actually a name for it. I'll put it above here somewhere. So I really embrace that. So I'm really enjoying that. Let's see, oh, the Pfi fur planting palooza has taken place. I have found that I am totally enamored with gardening gooing things, So I mean, I really enjoy We don't have a lot of places to garden in this house, but we're so close to the beach that you have to find out the new weather patterns that happened. It's pretty hot during the summer. Yeah. This all started with our lovely, wonderful friend Nancy, who went with me to pick out a lemon tree that we ended up naming Lizzo, so Liza the lemon tree. We then got another lime tree that we named Lenny. So then we also in honor of Nancy who passed away a couple of years ago, we got a nectarine that we called Nancy the Nectarine. Then we got Prunilla, the passion fruit rest in priests. Prunilla. She didn't make it, so we had we had to take her out. And now we have Precious the per Simon. So we've got all these trees we've been planting and nurturing and it's actually been really fun because you're actually we get a

28:24 huge harvest of lemons, we got a good harvest of limes. Actually, Anthony planted carrots last summer from seeds, and so we're really getting into the gardening thing, which I mean all in your front, you know, the big plant you've been here right planting bed on the left side of the yard in the front, and then containers upstairs. And we've got new pots in the front of the house too, So it's like it's so much fun. We're actually I finding I find it very therapeutic actually to go out there in the morning and weed stuff and just do you ever do you ever like doing that? No? Next time.

29:07 I buy my parrots at the store like everybody else. And my last thing and this is telling you I have too much time on my hands, and I had to get back to the podcast. Was my latest planting Palooza experiment was we have planter boxes above us on the terrace or the terrace, and we planted different things we want to divine over because you can see over one divine over and I've experimented with different types of things. So now we basically fried two batches of vines. So now I'm doing an experiment where I'm doing a succulent. We've got like maybe let's say eight boxes that hang over the front of the house. So now and you're gonna think this is so stupid. I know Anthony's gonna hate it when he comes back. But basically, I've taken out four of the boxes. I'm gonna plant a succulent that I know will grow well in the really warm sun.

29:54 And then I'm making a little tent to go over the existing viney so they don't get sunburned. Okay, to see if they make what if it just rub a little lotion on their leaves, Well that'd be on every single leave every Well, you've got time, Well, no yes, I do, but I thought, you know, this is such sounds like when I talk about it sounds as stupid keeps me off the street, off the pipe, and off the pole. So I'm good about that off the pole. So yeah, I mean it's been it's been a lot of fun things. I mean it's and what's scary, Gary, It goes by so fast time. I feel like you know that last episode we we recorded back in December. Yeah, it got released in and now what it's mid March?

30:44 So wow, wow, time does go by five fast as you're getting older, doesn't it doesn't? You tell me? I don't know. Oh no it does, it does, believe me, Yes, since you're sharing all your fun things. I just have fun yesterday. I never do because I live in San Francisco and you don't think of horses being in San Francisco. Did they have but mounted police anymore? I don't think so. If they did, it was very rare and it's usually in Golden Gate Park. But yeah, but I don't. I haven't heard of them in a while. But I was with a friend, you'll say. We went up on a on a day trip, Jannapa, and I know that she has horses, but I thought they were down in half Moon Bay, which is down the peninsula, down the coast, And I told her recently, Sad, I'd love to meet up with you one day when you go see your horses, because it's like, how often am I?

31:36 How often do I see horses? I'm a city boy. That turns out they are on a horse ranch just borderline San Francisco, in Daily City, off of John Daily Boulevard. Yeah, I didn't even know there. So if you take John Daily Boulevard up to skyline and make a right, it's right there. It's on the coast. So you drive up park and there's this you know, there's some corrals, there's a big barn, and if you walk through the barn, not far after that is the edge of the cliff and there's the Pacific Ocean. Wow. And she keeps her two horses there. So after we did, he it is and it's a beautiful day. I got there around four o'clock and it was gorgeous. And you know, you think normally is gonna be overcast and windy.

32:19 No, none of that is beautiful. So after we did our day trip, we came back. She said, well, I'm gonna head to see the horses, so dropped her off. She changed, I went home, I changed and met up down there. Wow, met Charismatic and lady and Lady friend. Lady friend. Lady Friend is a female, and Charismatic is a male. Really, Charismatic is twenty four years old. Wow, and Lady Friend is twenty three years old. Huh. Yeah. So she goes and visits them, you know. So they keep them there and she has people that like trainers and people that care for them during the week, but she goes down like three times to ride them and groom them.

33:01 So I was helping grooming her horses yesterday. So question because for me they've always been horses. Have They've been a little intimidating to me because they're such large, beautiful animals, but. Right so large? They are large? Yes, and then I never know. I can't read them, you know, I can't tell like a dog you can read pretty easily, or a cat the cat hates you, who loves you, or the dog is waggon's tail or licking your hand or whatever, but the horse is difficult to read. Well. She's been around horses since she was a young girl, because she went to like a summer camp in Wyoming, she said, when she was fourteen and then she just fell in love. So she's been connected horses all this time. So while we're grooming them, we're grooming the female first and then the male do something. She's like, hey, babe, like what they do? Well, see how her the ears did this and did that. So she could read the signs and nose. You know, if one of them is acting up, they don't have to like freak out. They do something with the you know, could be their breathing, could be how they move their ears.

34:06 Something like that. So she knows. So everyone a while she'd comp it on something and then she'd explain, See she's doing this because of that. Really, and I know, you know, I mean I've always heard you never walked behind them? Right? Or is that something? Is that? Is that a cow? I don't know. I mean I did because we did take Charismatic for a walk a stroll around that there's. A big field next to the bar. And so we took him for a walk and you know, it's kind of a narrow path. So she was leading him and then I was behind them. But no, I don't know about that. No, I just I just thought it might be some I was told sometimes horses kick, so oh they might. They're older, I mean, I asked her what is their lifespan?

34:48 I mean, and she's that they lived here like thirty to thirty five years old. Wow, that's so, she said, right now charismatic, who's twenty four, that would be equivalent to like a seventy five year old man. Okay, right, so there or but yeah, well. That sounds fun. So you weren't intimidated at all by the size. Of what they No, I mean, you're still I mean, because I'm not used to being around them. I mean I was on a horse when I was like ten years old one time, right in Mexico, but around here, just that's not something to come across. So yeah, so walking up to them, but they're just both very docile and. And you know, especially when when she gave me a cookie to put in my hand and you lay your hand flat, you know, then they come and eat it.

35:34 And like, so I made friends right away because well, who doesn't want a cookie from Gary? Is that a euphemism for something? It's his family show. So so that was my Saturday afternoon. Nice. Yeah, so it was fun. It was. It was really fun. So I don't know when else see horses again, but she says, you're welcome to, you know, meet me some time. It was like less than thirty minutes I was. There, and you had mentioned previous that you went to see I think you mentioned this that you had gone to see a show a string quartet or something playing in a church. For with contemporary music. Yeah, there is a series of musicians or a series of concerts that are done by musicians, usually violinists or string instruments.

36:20 And this last. One I did was they'll they'll pick an artist to salute and then they'll do highlights of their music. So this one was the music of Adele Nice. So normally it could be in a big church and they'll do all the faux candles, like thousands of them all around, and then the seats are just kind of intermix, so you're just sitting amongst all these candles, and then the stage is in front of you. Where I was at wasn't a church, but it was like an art gallery. Nice, very rust a lot of exposed brick and pipes whatever, but it's all you know, it's all dark except for the candles. So it's all dressed up and it was really nice and they did a beautiful job featuring Adele, and so I have that on my list. So if there's another artist coming up, you know, I'll go see that.

37:06 But this is the second what I've been to nice. I wanted. I've seen it do happening down here in the South Bay. Yeah, like in Hermosa or Manhattan Beach. So yeah, they do them all over and it's just you know, fun, you know, classy. Yeah, event you've used it a little classy exactly, y'all could well anyway, So do you think we covered what we needed to do? Yeah, we're just kind of recapping and let people know we're still here. We haven't gone away. Nope. Season three, baby. And there's more coming, so we're looking forward to that. Yes. In fact, we're recording another episode. Next week next week. Yeah, yeah, and I think there's one right after that too. We are busy, busy, baby, busy.

37:51 So that's great. So we're gonna be pumping it out exactly, So looking forward to it. So do you want to close us down? You want me to close it? Remember how we closed it down? Well, you always have something pithy to say, I'm just more like you can you. Know, we'll go ahead and enjoy us. We have two seasons that you can already listen to and look forward to the new ones. As Don mentioned in the opener, you can find us now on YouTube, yes, and then your favorite platforms like Spotify and Apple podcast. The website is sponsored by Podcage. Yes what nothing? Okay? Uh? The YouTube is through five for.

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