S2E7 'Ain't Nobody Got Time For That' -Special Guest Fabiola Levati-Woo

0:06 Here comes someone. Well, well, well so you're still half face. We're editing this, so you're this, so just go a little bit more to the that way. Okay, that's good, but we still got Gary. You can see half her face. Right, yeah, we can't see your left eye see this there? All right? Yes? Perfect? Yes, don't move y. We pop it up in something. Or I can check a little bit too. Yes, that's perfect. Hi.

0:49 Maybe you'll mess it up. No, Hi. Hi, Good morning, don Good morning Gary. How are you? I'm good? How are you? I'm good. Had a dinner party last night and there was lots of wine flowing, so I'm going to be whining about the wine. And did you have any wine? Tried a thimbleful or twelve or twenty so yeah, yeah, So it was a really good time. It was really nice. Had a great day. The weather's wonderful here, the front yard is finished. It's all good. Life is good. Oh good, nice, Oh good. It's been a good weekend. I had a nice gathering last night with a bunch of friends from our high school. We were twelve people and we dined for sushi at a downtown restaurant in San Mateo, which coincidentally the owner and chef also went to our high school.

1:37 His name is Victor Onizuka. Oh gosh, I remember it was the year ahead of us. So the restaurant is Toky's. It's been around forever. Used to be in Foster City, but for many years now it's been in. Downtown San Mateo. So what started out is the people saying, hey, a few of us should get together for dinner. But it was nice. We had a nice dinner. You know, they're super really good food. And then afterwards, one of our friends has an icler home up in the hills, so we all converge on his house with dessert and hang out. There for a couple hours. So it was nice. Yeah, it was a nice little gathering. What are we talking about this week? Well, today we have another guest under the umbrella.

2:22 Now I didn't know this until she fessed up that. She's not quite sixty. Yeah, but you know what, she'll be there. She'll get there. So she's coming a little earlier to the party. But it's someone you've known longer than I have because she need two work together, right, So we'll go into that. So do that and then just kind of catch up. I do have a funny little story I want to share with you as we do, or I can wait until after our intro. Whatever you want, just just make sure we get it in under the wire. Well, I'll tell you what. Let's start with We're done and Gary doing sixty. Let's take a break and come back and do that. Okay, okay, let's do that. Follow this sques.

3:34 Welcome to Don and Gary. Hi. Hi, We're here to unwrap and unpack navigating the world at this age. Oh there we are. You can find us on Apple Podcasts and Spotify, wherever amazing podcasts are found. We're also on Instagram at Don and Gary Doing sixty. And if you want to see all of this and all of that, all of it, all of it, tune in to us on YouTube Epify for pod Donn and Gary Doing sixty. And we now have a blue Sky account and that Blue Sky account is Donny Gary Doing sixty b sky dot Social. So we're hitting all something new for the kids, like the kids are doing it all. So we're doing it because we're kind of like kids too.

4:15 Well it used to be well whatever, okay, so sorry, can you do you have time to tell your story or you're. Oh yeah, no, it's a it's a quick and funny story. I was at breakfast yesterday by myself, so you can't help but hear other people's conversations at tables nearby. Right, I'm not an eavesdropper and I don't like to gossip, you know, but here's what I heard. So there's a three ladies sitting at the table behind me who were Latinas young Latinas. So I love is because this happens in my household too, with my mom, is that the Spanglish comes out. And yeah, So there was just one little segment that caught my attention because they were talking about someone I don't know who, but they said, oh, she's young, and the other one says, girl, she's almost thirty.

5:04 Implying that, you know, wasn't that that young? And I'm like, hey, I was going to tund like sixty two, but that was just so fun and he's like, well, you know, yeah, she's no, she's young. So her conversation was in Spanish, and part of the part that it was the English she's almost. I mean, this little part was I mean, that was just what they say was girls, she's almost thirty, Like. You know, what are you talking about? She's young? Okay, I thought that was cute. I want to see observe it. You are. It's just something new about this today. I'm going to say it's your backdrop. Yes, yes, So, because as we know I've mentioned several times, is that I work out of my home and we closed her office.

5:48 We didn't renew the lease. We didn't want to, which is fine, you know, save money, save gas, all that. But I have a lot of samples and things that had to bring with me because I send stuff out to clients in our sales reps. So I have a one bedroom condo, so I don't have a lot of space. So behind me were like stacks of plastic bins with samples of vinyls and metal samples and stuff like that. And I would always see it in the back, so i'd like cover it with a tablecloth or something. And because this is not on zoom, I can't blur out my background, right, and so you know, what you see is what you see. So I thought I need to get one of those Japanese shoji screens, the three or four panel blackwood with a white rice paper.

6:32 That would be fancy, right, But they're expensive. I bought this. I'm showing three panels now, but it's actually four panels. I can maneuver them, so it's just black fabric panels. But Target fifty bucks. Okay. Look, and I was, you know, I was a fan of Target, but since the recent changes where they eliminated DEI, I'm like, I'm one. Of those people that I'm doing my best to avoid. Them are trying to do that. But you know, I don't want to get political. But you know I needed a scream, so I was weak and I ordered it online. Well you look like a professional. That's good. That's a nice change as opposed to Hull. Now you don't show us your Humble collection or your Christmas tree in back behind.

7:19 My Christmas tree is to my left. I can't put that away. Yeah, So just to give the audience just a little bit of information, when Fabiola joins us for our segment, she might be having to do a little bit of adjusting with her angles because I'm not sure exactly where she's going to do this, and I had to kind of coach he a little bit, so she wasn't like this throughout the recording. Off off camera, off well half of centers. Like this the whole time, so we might have to either take a break or we can do it. Let's we'll do it and not stop recording when she joins us to see how comical this is. It'll be a real behind the scenes look at how a pod cast is put together.

8:01 Yes, yes, it is. That'll be one thing to do. It's your flaws and all or excuse me, our flaws and all. Or your wards in all. Opay, it's still showing. No, not anymore. But what else more bathrooms to repair? No, I'm not spending any more money on any more houses. I am done. We just got Wait, well here's a problem. You keep buying them, so stop buying houses. I do what I have to do. It's I'm just looking forward to spring. I don't want it to be cold anymore. And any ventures to pump springs in the near future. Actually, yes, next week we are going to go see Dion Warwick at the request of our friend Chris for his birthday. He wanted okay, miss Cleo, I mean Deon Warwick sewerd thing, so we'll see. I mean, I'm not even sure how old she is anymore or is now, so it's interesting to see.

8:55 She's gonna be here in Oakland appearing. I saw here years ago, did you? It was in person, and her son, who I didn't know, sang appeared with her, and so she did some solos and they did some duets. But even back then, this was several years ago. You know, she's she's older. She's got probably in her eighties. I'm going to look it up in a second. Yeah, but she you know, the voice is not what he used to be. So the duet with her son helped, and I think he was kind of carrying the doing the heavy lifting. So I was a little I was at surprised to see that she's touring again. And I'm sure it's not a big tour, did it say? Is she appearing with anyone else?

9:36 I don't know because I didn't buy the tickets, but we did last night at dinner, pull up a couple of her because I remember having her and this is really going to date me having some of her albums on cassette. Yeah, that's what friends are for. There's a whole bunch of she said, right, But you know, I was trying to remind my friends, like she had a huge career before the eighties, you know resurgence that she had with Burt Bacharak right, Oh, yeah, he did a lot of music and she was very popular and I remember like walk on By and those. Are like the late sixties ish, And then she had per resurgence with That's what friends are for, yeah, that one. And then she had a couple albums, won a bunch of Grammys. She is eighty four years old, right.

10:16 Eighty four? Well, you know what what I'm eighty four. I hope I'm singing at a casino too. I might be singing by the jackpots or by. The slot machines, slot machines, thank you. Yeah, I'll be eighty four by a slot machine, singing with a cigarette. That's what friends are for. Yeah. So I guess we're gonna just tread water until she shows up. I was ever good at that in school. I'd hang near the edge and you know, have one hand on the paddle. So she's late now officially, so she doesn't get paid for appearances like we what we usually. Do, so and that time is money, honey. February, Hi, how are you.

11:01 I'm doing well. So I'm trying to figure out how how long ago that I've seen you. Pre covid, for sure, pre covid. Because I popped in a couple of times when you guys had this store. But that was how many years ago in San Mateo? And Don was the last time you saw Fabiola in personally? I don't think we've seen each other in a long time. I know we've texted a couple of times back and forth. Your daughter was in Los Angeles, I think, and you'd asked me about whether she was staying in a bad neighborhood. Yeah, my daughter, Yeah, it's a bad place to stay. Like so let's take people back. So the two of you met how long ago and in what? Under what circumstances?

11:43 I don't remember. I was applying for a part time job. And it was at Macy's at May Yes, up. Here in the Bay area or down south. We're up here in. A Bay area downtown, Okay. And so how many years ago? Do you think? Oh god, I mean that's got to be nine seven, Yeah, I think so. Oh my god, yeah, I think it's ninety seven. Yeah, so only twenty twenty eight years ago, that's all. And you were were you were you being hired by Don or just working? Yes? At this okay. Yeah, so I am responsible for the trajectory of her stellar career. No, it is true. No, it's no, lie, No.

12:25 I think we yes, yes, well, I think we had a lot of fun. We were working there too, because we goofed off a lot. I would go like, I don't remember. Do you remember Gary, you worked in Macy's too, right. I worked at the Hillsdale store in San Mateo for about four years. Yeah, oh I remember. Yeah, But I remember one thing I would do a lot is that we had this. I think we worked in like ladies career clothing or something, right, fab. Yeah, yeah, well some sportswear. Yeah, is that I don't know. So as a joke sometimes I would literally go by to people and like take a te stand and knock it over and walk by. Do you remember me doing that? Ever? I would just like I was horrible. I was a manager too, and it's like I would go by and full rolling racks and stuff, just push it over and say, go pick that up. I was joking. I would pick it up, but it was like a joke.

13:12 But were you doing this in front of customers where they're horrified by your actions? No? When it was. Okay, yeah, we would get there like six or seven in the morning to the floor set. Yeah. Yeah, I don't even know how to work the next. Day obviously hit it off because well, you're still around, Yeah, talk. To each other. There's he's still around. I can't imagine. I can't believe he's still around. But yeah, but I do have a couple of photos that I'm going to put on the screen as I edit this where we've gone out to was it Laran daya over in the in the mission the mission, Yeah, there were some I've got some interesting pictures of youth Fabiola, believe it or not, and there's some plague. You were making a nice young woman and then she's mis seeing you, I think, and then.

14:03 I know that. Yeah, there's the stories. Yeah, so that was when we were much younger, back in the nineties and tequila was flowing freely, usually every night in college. And we're still so. Back to the Babuola. Thank you for joining us. We're very happy and we're basically we know you're not part of the sixty club. You're you're not ready yet to join that one because you're not quite there yet. But something we like to talk about just how people's lives are going later on in life, and I'm saying yours is later on. But we're you know, we're at a certain age right now where a lot of things might have shifted, and we wanted to talk with you about that and see how your life is going, and talk about and talk about how your life is going, how you you have some children, you have some life events that have taken place. You know, I guess one of the things, Gary, if you don't mind, I'll just jump in.

14:47 So the biggest, one of the biggest questions I always ask to the guests to come in about this. Has have you in your career or even recently, received or been exposed to any kind of agism on your job or your skills? Has anyone ever exhibited that? And you have to be specific, but have you ever had that thrown at you? I think for me, well, in retail, I think it were. Sometimes I feel lucky that that's not as much part of it, maybe because I moved on to wear more mature woman chopped, so I don't feel that and I don't see that. The other day, this lady was telling me like, oh, honey, don't worry about it. You're still so young, and I said, no, I'm going to be willing to be fifty eight in April.

15:32 And she goes, oh, you're almost and she did what she was eighty five, she said, so she can say whatever she wants to. And I know I think of that too, But how do you? But I like kind of always wonder like I can't believe that is that really happening? Like how is that even possible? Because like the body and the mind they're not together, you know. Does that make sense? So? So does it make you think more about your age? I mean, like, oh, I'm going to be like you said, I'm going to be fifty eight. Does that is that a concern of yours? Or is it just kind of like it's just another number, It's just another year.

16:16 I think it's just right now, I feel like, oh, it's just another number. It's just another year. Because I started so late and my kids are so still young. So it doesn't you know. So that they keep you young. A lot of people my age already grandmother Lord forbid to be from right, So I'm not like where I'm supposed to be, But then I am what I'm supposed to be. No, I only ask a question because there's some people who are triggered by a certain age, whether it's. Thirty, but I feel it in the body. Yeah, huh, yeah, you go ahead and answer no. I was saying that. The reason I asked that question is because for some people turning a certain age mate, you know, whether not a monumental but an age like a thirty or forty or fifty, whatever the age is, for some people, it's like, oh, they feel like it's going to be a big change or shift, and it's really on that person's individual attitude and approach to it. Like for me, it's you know, I sometimes I have to think about, oh I'm sixty two.

17:19 I don't dwell on it right. So, yeah, it's never been an issue. But for others, you know, it could be a touchy thing. Maybe they could go through a depression or some other shift because it's they're thinking more about where they are in their life. I think. So, I think I feel fortunate and lucky that I have genes that makes me look like. Not my age. Yeah, because sometimes, like you know, I'll be at work and can I see you ID? And they pass me their ID and I'm like, seventy one how's that possible? What happened? Yeah, you know you're born in seventy one, and like, okay, you had a rough life.

18:01 Okay, here's so it makes you know. So sometime I work it. It gives me clear. You don't say that out loud to them, right. Oh god, no, there's like a little bubble of my. So I think that's yeah, you know, and uh, people I feel like I get they get surprised to find out how old I am. But some morning I wake up and I'm like, oh my god, yeah that's my age. So the body tells you something differently. Oh my god. Yeah. Driving to work, that's like thirty five minutes, forty depending And then when I get out of the car, I feel like I was sitting for.

18:44 An eight hour shift. Oh wow. And I literally I'm like nobody's watching because I'm like I limp for the first forty seconds. I'm literally limping for the first Like I'm like, this is this is not right. I should be walking. This is ridiculous. Like no one's parking back, no one sees your parking back there. Yeah, I like, just sitting forty minutes, I'm stiff. So the body and the mind they're it's like two different people. Right, And you said you have two kids that so I imagine the they no three, you young three? Okay? And how old are they? Where are we at now? Are we the even age?

19:25 So sixteen, eighteen twenty and so I'm still happen wouldn't have time to do that. Yeah, twenty years ago, eighteen years ago, and sixty years ago. But that's amazing. Congratulations. And one of them is off to college now, right, two. Actually are so. Serene is a junior at San Francisco State and her majors child development, so she wants to help and fix the kids before they get ut, before they even at that age. Mateo is at UNLB. He's a jazz major. So that's his life. He breathed, leaves, lives day in and day out, jazz.

20:09 Nice. I saw your post fabiola of him playing right now. You must be so proud. I mean, did you see that coming? Was he always? I mean, obviously he's playing. No, Because at the school that they went in fifth grade, they all start with they can join the music class if they want to, and then they have to get there at seven thirty in. The morning or whatever or eight. Before school starts basically, so they have half an hour forty minutes of music session. So Serene took flute, and my nephew and nieces they played instrument, then mateo and then Leah played, and then from fifth grade and they went to middle school and they still join and they still continued music.

20:53 But I feel like. Maybe between eighth grade and freshman year for him, when he went to freshman year in high school, that's when he just kind of For me, I feel like that's when he kind of took. Off, and it's the high school that he wants. I feel like he has a good teacher where he gave him the liberty to not to do whatever he wants to, but to really just. Discover himself and music. So while kids. After school are you know, either getting in trouble or they're doing playing sports, or they're hanging out or whatever, he was in the music and. He's playing jazz, which is very subjective. Jazz is not usually written down. Jazz is what he yeah, right, yeah.

21:40 And jazz to me was one of those things, Oh, I don't listen to that, Like who listens to that? And now sometimes I find myself in the car and I'm driving going, oh, yeah, that's a clarinet. Oh yeah, that's like I recognize instruments because of him. But it was fun because I got to drive them to all the music show and all the events. So now, of course I don't get to see him play. So on October ninth, which was his birthday, his school played at the Vegas Library. Library has this huge auditorium. It's beautiful, so he's going to play there and I called to say, are you guys.

22:24 Gonna record it? And the librarian goes, I don't know what you're talking about. I said, no, no, no, seriously, you know the jazz group is going to be there and my son's birthday today and I can't be there. So is anyone going to be recording it? Is it going to be your live? Is it going to be He's like, I'm just a librarian, lady, I don't know what. I don't know what you're talking about. But finally I did find out that his teacher did record it, so it is on YouTube and I do have it now. Oh nice, because that was the day that you know, it was his eighteenth birthday. And do you still have kid at home? Actually too, because three is at State so she just commutes every day, okay, and she works right on campus.

23:09 There's a preschool, so that's great. And then Leah is a junior in high school. Right, So growing older didn't mean that you would go turn into an empty nester right away. Not yet, Okay. I don't think it's going to happen for a while. At least I would say at least four more years, which that's going to be right when the house is going to be paid off, So then we're free too. Then that's when we're free to move around the world. Do you see that for yourself in the future, if the kids aren't home for you to travel. Yeah, and I move nothing when I talk about ultra high. Uh move somewhere else or just do traveling and.

23:52 No, no, no, no move move out of the Bay Area? No no, uh, just travel in a way where we would where I go somewhere for two months, three months, stay there and then come back because there'll be a base, there'll be a home. Yeah, Koreas on my top list, Japan, Europe but not nowhere Sticky. I don't know hot a Sticky or above. So Southeast Asia is out of the market. South America is. Out yeah, I don't like stick nobody got time for sticky either. No, So, since you bring that up, so you're obviously thinking towards your future so of travel, So where does work fall into that? So have you thought about I'm going to work until i'm X age and then retire or is that not even a conversation or thought yet?

24:48 Oh? No. The only problem with you know, it's uh insurance, medical insurance. That's the only reason I think most people for me work like that's that's like up here number one. Yeah, when does medicare kick in? That's what sixty. Seven seventy two, thirty nine. I've got time for that now. I want to say it's sixty five, but you know, I'm still a few years away, so I haven't had that conversation then when yet? I know people that like my brother who's three years older. It just depends on how much long you want to work, right, So if you're still working beyond that, then obviously you're not going to take it. So it's all based on what I mean.

25:32 I think. I wouldn't mind working beyond that if it's part time where I'm like, oh yeah, I'll have a I have someone that works for me right now, She'll only come once a week, and she comes in once a week, she makes the window pretty, she cleans up the stock room, barely deals with the customers, and then gets her just found and off she goes home. That's what I want to do. Listen. You have always had a good gig because you know how to work those girls, and they do lots of things for you. You basically show up, yes, smile, do your thing. Because every time I visited you at one of yours, she's like, oh blah blah blah blah, Oh let's get goffeeah blah blah blah, I gotta go.

26:18 She's she works that place. So you have a good thing. And I'm sure you love the people that you work with. No, I do. So you've always had a good gig. But it's like, not everyone has to quit at sixty seven or whatever seventy two. If you want to keep working, you keep working. And I think you enjoy it, don't you. I know? I do. I do, I really do. But for me, the only reason I would say I do want to quit is just because I do want to travel, Yeah, when I can still be. Mobile and walking, and. Exactly because right now I am having an issue with my fee because we were walking. Johnson and I were walking actually like you know, thousand steps roughly eight to ten thousand steps a day, and now I'm like walking around the block going my foot hurts, you know, so I can't. I need to get back to it because how else am I going to you know, travel through Europe and walk everywhere? Right, So honestly that's my number one issue or number one things that I'm trying to fix.

27:22 Yeah, I'm the same way. I decided or I don't know, it's. Not a final decision, but my goal is at age sixty seven, I will retire because, like you, I like to travel. So I said, I want to be able to still be young enough to be mobile and get out there, especially the longer. Trips like to Europe. I mean they're very taxing, not just the travel time to get there, but then you know, you want to get out with. A couple, so the stairs right. Right hills. So yeah, I'm the same way. So that's kind of what's in what I'm thinking forward is about. Okay, that's that's the age I'm shooting for.

28:04 So I'm about four and a half years away. So yeah. Yeah, but you know, life doesn't end after retirement either, and that's something we'd like to talk about too, because you know, depending you know, whether you choose to work or not work, there's always thinking about what you would like to do with that time when you're not working, And they're kind of traditionally called the go go years, which means that those are the years after you've decided to stop working where you go and do things, and you go and do things, so it seems like you have a pretty good plan in place to do that. Yeah, And I think it's important. We didn't do as much travel when the kids were. Young, and I feel like in a way we did a disservice for them, because some of them are like their homebody.

28:50 They're like, eh, it's okay, and I'm like. No, let's go having on your own versus taking a family of five. It's that's a big difference. Yeah, Right for me on the trips that I've done were I traveled a lot by myself just because other friends weren't available. And if you're doing Europe for. Two weeks, I mean, at least in my experience, it's that's like seven grand airfare, hotel meals. It's about seven grand per trip. Yeah, and that's just one person. So I can't imagine, for you know, how a family can can do that on any kind of consistent basis. And I didn't travel all the time. I would let several years go by before I do it again, just because I'd have to save up the money again.

29:33 Yeah, no, and that's another reason why we didn't. You know, we didn't even like going to Disneyland. My god, down payment? Are you kidding me? And I can't navigate the whole You need an app. You need to do this, and you need to do that. It's like, can I just go? Why can't you just go? Why do I need an app? We're not doing that. We did it once and it was good and again, like, actually, I'm kind of lucky. My kids are not the type of kids are like when can we go again? They've never been that way. Even when we were there and we would see a princess and I'm like, oh my godd so and so do you want to take a picture? And they would look at me like, that's a lady in the costume. If you want to take a picture.

30:17 Go ahead, you know, mom, she's not a real princess. You know she's not a real Yeah, they're very realist. I wonder where they get that from. Very strong and opinionated. Yeah, I don't know where they get that at all. They ask you a question to you work with a different group of people. Now, what are you gen z or what are you? You're not a boomer the boomer? What's that? Well, you're not a baby boomer. No, I'm not baby Okay, what's after baby boomer? Is that gen z? I don't know. Whatever, So you're not a baby boomer. Let's go okay, we'll edit that. So people of different ages, do you see like there's a big difference in the way the community?

31:00 Kid think there's some of the younger people that you work with. I mean, they're very technologically savvy. They knew it. They use a lot of jargon that I don't understand anymore. They use a lot of apps, they're always on their phone like this all the time. Do you notice a big difference and do you have that in your workplace too right now? Or are your kids like that? My kids are like that, But then I think I'm like that because we all have Instagram, we all have TikTok. Well all, but not Johnson, who doesn't. He's not he's not in social media. So I believe because of them, I'm able to somehow stay on top of it. Okay, okay, but some stuff that they use.

31:44 I don't know what's skibby? Didn't, I don't know what that's? What's skibby divvy? What's that? What is skimby divvy? It's a word they use. I don't know. Yeah, don We can't tell you. If you don't know, just yeah, forget it, just listen. I can barely handle Facebook and Instagram, and now we're on blue Sky. So do you are you on takeiktok? Do you have TikTok? I am on TikTok. I don't do it, but I follow it because how can I not. So the girls and I are always sending things back and forth, like if something comes up that reminds me of them, I send it to them. If something comes up that reminds them of me. This, so we're constantly sending things. Back and forth. And so they'll say, do you even work? Do you work? Are you just on Instagram all day long?

32:25 Well it's good because your kids probably can teach you a lot of things too, right, Oh, because I don't even know how to get on TikTok. I'm not even going to try. It's like too much for me. Oh yeah, it's it's well both TikTok and Instagram, I think, but TikTok is worse. You know, you're like down the rabbit hole and you're like, oh, that's been twenty minutes of that now. So I mean, what about it? In workplace? Do the people have Are they very similar in age to you? Are they much younger? No? I have, Well we're five total, two part timer, the two full timer. I think I always forget. I think they're like in their forties or just turned forty. One just turned forty maybe in the other one maybe is still thirty seven or thirty eight, which god, that sounds young but not really.

33:13 Does that make sense? Yeah? Absolutely absolutely. So one of them just got on Instagram and then the other one she's been on it. And but you do everything. I have to got to keep up with the kids. With the kids. Yeah, that's the incentive, right, She's got three kids, so you know, they feed off each other and you want to be connected with them and be involved in their lives. You know, Don has dogs. I got nothing. So you know, there's the difference right there, Fabrila. Another question that we ask in these interviews is that even though you're not in the club yet, you still have a few years to go.

33:56 Do you look back at a younger age and you can. Pick the age two, twenty five whatever and think, you know, maybe would you give yourself advice of, like, you know, what I should have done or could have done back then based on you know where you are now. You know, for something, they talk about I wish I was more confident. I wish I had done this differently, do you are you the type that kind of I was more? I wish I was more financially savvy. That's a good one because I think, oh, at nineteen, we're not in that. We're not in that mind space at that age, right, We're like going with our friends. Or if you're the studious type, you know, where am I going to go to college?

34:39 So you've not. Yeah, no, I would say the same for me. I look back now. I mean when I bought my home, I'm sixty, so I bought it at forty forty one. That's pretty good if you think about it pretty good. But I think about one of my nieces who went to college and got a job right out of college. Uh, and just really good job and she's still with the company. She and her husband bought a house seven years ago. When she bought it, I think she was twenty seven. Oh that's really good, I hear, and hear. In the Bay Area, which is super expensive now. Most people at twenty seven don't do that, right because they're thinking, I don't need a car.

35:22 I can just uber everywhere I want. I don't have I don't want. A house because then there's maintenance and I'd have to, you know, a mortgage. Because they're like I'm going They go out, go out a lot, dinner, they go out with friends, they do the weekend trips. So everything is like now now now. So I know for me, like if I really have to think about it, it's and think back, it's like. Did I need it to do that or did I have to buy that? Really? I mean working downtown Macy Union Square, where you go across the street and you go to Nieman for lunch and you go across the street to Sacks and you're like, oh my god, it's only if the word only comes before.

36:08 It's only three hundred dollars. It was eighteen hundred, it's only eight hundred. Now you gotta get it. Yeah, you have to please. Yeah, no, I get it. Yeah, it's just we're not so nice at that age. Yeah. So now I'm at work, even though the ladies that I work with, the ones that are younger than I am, because they're in their forties and thirties, I'm a big advocate of for one k and I'm like, you have it, get it, just even put ten percent. And they're looking at me like no, like I need my money now. I'm like, no, you're going to need it later. Also, so I wish like they my young self would have done that right.

36:53 And can also be based on you know, if you have a mentor or a parent that's on your Like the niece that I mentioned, my brother is, you know, really good about saving and this and that. So I think he instilled in her the thing about you have to study, you have to do this, you need to be disciplined. And it wasn't a hard ass about it, but I think it was. It kind of helped keep her in line. And like I said, I mean, she's married, she's got a kid, they have a house. She's still doing all her social and they do a lot of social and they're a big group of friends, and they're all in that age where they're either getting married or having kids, so very social. But they have the responsibilities of the house. And I think someone at her age, having a different parent whatever, wouldn't be in the same place as she is.

37:42 So it's all in your support system and mentors and things like that. So for our kids, since they started their first job, when they started working, we did the eighty twenty, so eighty percent goes into their saving. They could do whatever one and we can't say anything. You want to buy twenty dollar worth of candy, twenty dollars worth of both on a twenty dollars worth of whatever it is, or you know, twenty percent of it, we can't say anything, even if we think that is the stupidest thing they ever bought. We can't. But that eighty percent puts away. Can't They can't touch it obviously, you know, they live in a home.

38:25 Everything is here. It's not like they need to touch that eighty percent. Yeah, So by the youngest one, she goes out with her friends and they she works in the cafeteria where her friends work in the cafeteria. Mind you, I don't know about you. Guys, but when I went to high school, you didn't eat at the cafeteria or work at the cafeteria. I was like embarrassing, you know in high school. Oh No, here, it's like it's a cool thing to do. She works there, she comes home with her low you know, slowly that she made or whatever. Dessert she made, and all this kind of fun stuff. So but her. Friends, for guy friends, they like, let's go out, and she goes, no, I can't.

39:08 We just got paid. And he's like, yeah, but I get taxed a sept oh and they're like, no, you don't. That's that how it works. Be goes, oh, no, that's how it works in my household. My household. Yes no, but that's great that you have that framework and that discipline for them. Yeah, because they may not thank you now, but they'll thank you later. So Fabi sometimes I asked this question too, and it's like I look at it too and reflect on this, But have you in any way become your mother? Yes? How so what. Like I look at a mirror real quickly and I'm like, oh my god, I just look like her. Oh I look down at my hands. Oh, and I feel like those are her hands. I think of that moreover the physical thing.

40:01 And then I also to say to her, you know, not everyone's talking about you, because she'll come in a room, which goes, what are you guys talking like, No, we're not talking about you. And now I do that, and my kids are saying to me, no one's talking about you. But mostly I think in the physical part, I'll catch myself and I'm like, wow, I am starting to look like her, which does nothing wrong with that, but it's just weird. That thing is just like I think sometimes we catch ourselves and say, oh my gosh, I'm ex number whatever that age is, because we talk about this a lot too. It's like it's just a number. But sometimes especially when you related to younger people, like the people that you work with who are thirty seven or forty, and you're saying, oh my gosh, I'm I'm sixty two, they're thirty. I'm twice as old as this person. Yeah, sometimes that gets me.

40:52 It gets me a little like free. Yeah, because at my age, she was a like I said, my age, she was already a grom and I'm like, I'm not a grandmother. My personality is not a grandmother. My age is, but not me, not my mind, not anything about me as a grandmother. Right, I got time for. That, and thank you for doing that again. But it's like the thing is so yes, you're not your grandmother, you're not acting like a grandmother. But for generations that are younger than us, they're so different, like you said, they don't prepare. It's about now, now now. So it's great that you're instilling some values with your kids too, about this eighty twenty, that you're getting them prepared and they realize the value of money because so many people who are younger now want to order the food to come to them. They don't know how to cook. They don't want to buy a house because they probably don't know how to fix anything.

41:51 Oh no, right, so yeah, we can't know it's important, not in this household. I think like Matteo has helped Johnson. You know they fixed the stove using YouTube because they neither was out or yesterday. They put the new Venutian blind in the girl's room, all the akia furniture that we bought. He's put it together. He knows how to cook. That's important. Actually kids know how to need to learn how to cook. Yeah, no, he I don't know how to cook. No, I don't. I don't do any of the cooking. There's no no. I'm a the dishwasher and the cleaner.

42:33 But your husband is quite a good cook, right, Oh. Yeah, yeah. You shouldn't see the dinner we had yesterday. I was like, wow, this is like. And then afterward I was like, oh, I forgot to take picture and post it. They make fun of because I'll write it's what's for dinner, you know, tug, It's what's for dinner. So and we're so which Johnson is really a very good sports But at the same. Time he also so ask four feedback, like how was it? Was it good? So that he can remake it better. But if someone doesn't know us and there's a camera watching us, they'd be like that is so mean. I'm rude. This guy just spent how many hours making a meal? We're like too salty to this. Yesterday it was our first time.

43:22 Actually we bought the salmon from Costco, but the sashimi grade. So he made it three different ways so that it's Brian three different ways, so to see the flavor. I'm like, well, not, I'm never going to go to a sushi bar and order sashimi because we made it better now unless it's kind of like you know that, you know, highest one of those good Japanese restaurant where it's literally flown in the same day, or yeah, I'm like, well that's out the window. We're not going for sushi no now. So a lot of yeah, a lot of a lot of different things between the kids and him, Lea likes to bake and do different things, and Serena.

44:07 And I were like, we don't do that. People do things for us. Another question we ask is at your age, are there things that you are better at or wish you had learned to do. And that could be a skill or. It could be something else just with life and knowledge that maybe you would you could do better now or know more about. I wish I knew how to paint and I wish I took that in painting a musical instrument, because I'm like, they just started in fifth grade and they can play like this. Why did anyone said that to me or do that for me? And what has stopped you from maybe wanting to pick up that skill or take a class time time.

44:51 Yeah, at the end of the day, you're like, I don't have that time. Well maybe in the future when you're not traveling in Europe or you get travel to Europe and take a paint class or what is. It those. Wine wine painting class Like you're drinking wine and your painting. Yes, do that? I did one. Yes, that would be easy. I would do that because all you do is get inspiration in your glass. And I was like, I'm a painter, I'm a freaking genius. Yeah. So I did one because it was a U what is it called fundraiser for one. Of the class.

45:32 Okay, so yeah, so we did it at a local bar and it was fun. So that painting is hanging on our wall. That's the easiest fundraiser that school do. So all the moms get together and it's always all the mom You never see the dads because it's all the mom that get together because like now they're drinking and painting. If there's a correlation. Mommy needs an escape, Mommy needs some me time. I'm going to go I'm gonna go painting. Kids, leave me alone. Mommy needs to explore her artistic endeavors, sucide, and yes, if it means picking up a glass, well, hey, you know mom's had a rough life, and you know mommy needs a little vacation.

46:18 So I asked this question when I sent you the fabulous so I need you. Did you still person? That's okay? But here's the thing. Who would play you in the movies or on TV? You know? And I'm so bad because I always forget her name? Did you watch that show One Day at a Time? Yes, the mom one of the daughter or the mom Bonnie Franklin. Franklin the mom? Yeah, the redhead with the mushroom haircut. No, no, the new One Day at a Time? Oh, the new one? All right? Yes, yes, that's how we are right now. We really wished we went to the original one. Okay, So the remake that was on net Flix, Yes, I did watch that. I don't know the actress's name, but I know who you're talking about. Don will look her up while we're talking. But okay, Justine, yes, Justine.

47:14 I think that just like curly hair. Yes, yes, yes, I see it. Okay, she's a bit of a pistol. Sure, I could see. That oh, yes, she's a firecracker for yes. Yeah, thank you for preparing that answer. So that's my profile picture for Netflix. Okay, just nice. Okay, Now I get that makes sense because I know her personality and you're right, very. Have you watched the whole series? No? I did, Yes, Oh my god, I love it. Yeah. You know a lot of the stuff that came through sometime I'm like what that's like, what's happening now? Or like in that show her mom lives in that one room.

47:57 Yeah, and then she comes out of the clock the curtains so she doesn't have a door, she has curtains for doors. Well, my mom when she was downstairs, she. Did how funny and she busts and say, who's talking about me? Yeah? Well, and the TV series Rida Moreno played uh yeah, yeah, yeah no, and they. Definitely you know, brought it current with. Exploring like the daughter's sexuality and and although readA reno is always good, but you know, she was like the very aggressive sexualized grandmother.

48:38 It was a little over she was. Yeah, but but over all I did well. They have to because you know, they need to keep our attentions fan. Right, don any other questions I do have one? Please? Have you and we talked about this in the previous episode. Have you or do you take advantage Babby of any senior discounts or you're not even eligible, are you? I wish I did. Sorry I did that because then the noise back. I wish I did. I keep forgetting because I know, isn't it Ross fifty five and over on a Tuesday? Yes, I didn't discount. You do know additional ten there? I think it's Tuesday, but I'm not shopping on a Tuesday at Ross, so.

49:21 That's go. And then I did sign up for what is that ar F? And I was like, this is stupid. I'm paying a membership for a year and I've never used it, Like what what do I use it for? Like I wasn't good disciplined enough to read everything that I needed to read to take advantage of it. So I can't write, Yeah, they don't give it to you. You have to do the research that go on the web. Yes, and then you have to do the work to see you Oh way, these companies. Offer discounts, so yeah, it does take a little work. But I was just saying I I. Am more of get a discount with the apps. So I have an app for all the fast food.

50:09 Whatever food places gives you a discount because you have their app. I'll do it if they if we go to a new place and you. Dessert place with the kids and they say get a free toping or get a free this. If you post it on Instagram, take a picture, I'm right there. We'll here I posted. Do I get my freebean out? And do you take your kids? Like it's your birthday today? It's your birthday? Oh no, we do yeah, no, we've done that. We'll start with Starbucks, Pete, but we'll just go down the line and you know, yeah, then my birthday is No.

50:52 They're right there with me. They're the ones that show me. And then we make Johnson do it. So we're like download it on your phone right now, we're doing that with you. You need free sprinkles, dad are yeah? And now we have this app call too Good to Go? Have you done that? So basically it's whatever they weren't able to sell, they'll sell it to you at a discount price. So I know, like Wholefood has it where. For like you know nine ninety nine, you could you buy it on your apps and you reserve it. But you go between that time and they'll you know, it's either deli or bakery and whatever they weren't able to sell that day.

51:33 So there's a. Donut place not far from us, and it's four ninety nine. You get seven doors. Girl, you're all hooked up with all the things the kids are doing. Right, I probably I'm not doing too good to go okay. I thought it was too good. Yeah, no, no, too good to go okay, buts and dessert places, I'm not doing it well. There's grocery stores, there's yeah, all kind of fun places. It's focusing on the perishable things obviously. Yes, okay. So that's probably why I have not taken advantage of the senior discount, because I'm too busy.

52:16 To the. You're working it through another angles what you're doing. But I signed up for a ARP so I could get the free Duffel bag. Now I got this free accordion thing for the back of the car. It's so flimsy that you don't even know. I might have thrown it away. So bringing it back. Life is good? Right? Are you happy? Things are doing and doing well? I think so now? Yeah, yeah, good, I'm very happy. For you. We're very happy for you. Thank you, thank you for asking me to do this, because I was a little bit. Why you were fine? You're all nervous? What the hell? Since when are you nervous about anything?

52:57 Well, I'm gonna be on camera. How can you not be of us? Oh no, we're not. Oh wait, there's a camera. What No one told me about that? And you're paying us to interview you, right, so we should be getting a check in the mail from you. It's sure you take a voucher, but there's the next ratio, so you might you have to use it between this type. Of right, because it's perishable, because like us, But you know so fabi, thank you so much for joining us. Gary, did you have any more questions? Are you're good? No? I think I'm good now. But it was super nice to see you. Thank you for joining us. That's great.

53:38 And you weren't nervous, right, No, just at the beginning. Then I realized what I'm talking to. Right, Hello, there's don I'm Gary. Here we are and next time in town or you're down here let me know? And then Gary, okays all the time too, write well Gary, I'm. In town and country now also. Okay, okay, got I gotta got it. Yeah, I mean I'm in the city in San Francisco, and that I'm down the peninsula to see my mom every week in San Mateo. I don't get further south than that, but you know. It's really pretty, it's really nice. You never know. Yeah, well again, Fabi, thank you for joining us. Lovely, congratulations on your children, all your success, all your reinvention with your career all the time. You're always coming up to you. So we're so happy.

54:31 And yeah, of course, and we're back. That was fun. That was good. You know. The one thing I didn't ask was, you know, I've met her husband before Johnson, but there was a running joke where like he doesn't really exist because he never would come with her attend any of the events. I only met him when they had a store, a grocery store and Tan Samitteo. I remember that, and I and my mom and I would go visit them and you know, want to support them, and that was a few times I would see. But he was always working. I was like unloading trucks, so he's just always on the go.

55:11 But one thing I didn't ask was like, how long have they been together. I mean, well, if. They have a twenty year old then obviously more than twenty years. But but they've been together forever. Yes, yes, but yeah, it's it's fun time. I love her. She was so much fun to work with. She's just a really lovely lady. And she's had a lot of good experiences with her life now, which and I'm so happy about. Right. Well, and then to see her and listen to her, I mean that's what I remember from and it's been a long time since I've seen her. So she's one of those people that doesn't age. She does look the same. Her personality is just always really up and positive and bubbly, and you know, she's got that great laugh. And so yeah, it was fun to see her and catch up with her.

55:53 Yeah. Great, So good job with that. Yeah, So are we ready to wrap it up? Yes? Wrap it up? WHOA? So this does it for another episode of Don and Gary Doing Sixty. As Don mentioned in the opener, we are available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and other fabulous platforms where you pod. We're also on Instagram under Donn and Gary Doing Sixty YouTube Don and Gary Doing Sixty and it's Underfi for pod productions. Yes, that correct, sure, yes, let's go with that. So that way you can see us as well as hear us, and in all of those options. Would love for you to like subscribe comments if you want to reach us by email, it's don and Gary doing sixty at gmail dot com.

56:39 I think that seblue sky. Oh yes, the sky at Donn. And Gary doing sixty bsky dot social And I'll put that up on the. Credits when we get the chests. Em well you oh, Don. Well, good job, and Gary have to say you're closing your outros are really good. All right, now you're using kind of your like sexy boys. Welcome to Well, I'm trying to sign natural and unscripted and you. Know it's work. It's working. Good job. So we've got other episodes coming up. We've got other guests lined up. We'll be recording again next week with another guest, and I've lined up another guest for us. So we'll just keep on coming.

57:24 Yeah, and we'll see where where the podcast takes us. Yes, we will hopefully the fame in purchain purchain. I'll be fakay good talking to you. All right, we have a good one you too. I okay,