Navigating Mental Health: A Personal Journey

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Table, super happy to have Sean
with us today.

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In fact, we've known each other
for I don't know, maybe 15 years

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at some level.
Yeah.

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And you've had a really
interesting journey even since

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we've known each other aside
from the beginning of all that,

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you know, prior to this.
So thank you for being with us

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today.
Really super appreciate it.

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And I'm looking forward to
having this chat.

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If it's OK with you.
Let's just start at the

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beginning and tell us how all
all this came about.

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The real charge me a little bit.
That'll be great.

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Sure, sure.
So I'll start with a little bit

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of a background.
So I live in Atlanta, but

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originally from New York.
And then work wise quick the

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resume after school I did 15
years, I did international

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institutional equity sales.
So sell a stocks to banks

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overseas and then in 2007 with a
partner Co founded the first

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impact investing investment
bank, did that for 16 years.

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So we'd raise money for impact
and sustainable companies, raise

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money for impact and sustainable
private equity funds, put on

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different investor convenings,
had an online investor portal

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about 1000 LP's and 10 GP's at
any one time.

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And that's where we were
overlapping in the past.

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And then there's the, you know,
what happened?

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Where are you now?
So then there was the mental

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health story and I'm happy to
give you a little snapshot.

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So it was an interrupt me
anytime you want to.

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It was September 22.
I was depressed, had trouble

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eating, had trouble sleeping.
I lost 40 lbs which is

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wonderful.
People be like, you look amazing

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and I'm like, I never felt
worse.

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Yeah, you look amazing, but I
don't feel so shit, right?

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Yeah, I feel like.
Shit, but you look amazing.

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Like what are you doing?
I was like, I'm not really

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eating, but I don't really tell
them that.

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And then the depression was
growing and then it was a it was

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this December 19th.
And I think especially when

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you're not really eating and
sleeping, of course I was eating

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and sleeping, but but not well,
the system gets weak.

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So it was December 19th.
I was on a Zoom called like LPGP

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call.
Have like a full mental

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breakdown.
Not fun, can't speak, pretty

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much suicide.
I'm telling my wife I don't want

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to be here anymore.
It's also observing what how

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you're thinking and not thinking
that your mind is not always

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your front.
Your brain is a machine that's

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just creating all kinds of
things.

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So it's lying to you a lot.
So if you see those things, then

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you can be like, OK, I believe
this.

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I don't.
Not everything your brain says

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is correct.
Hello, welcome everybody.

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Thanks for joining us for
another episode of Arthur's

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Roundtable.
Super happy to have Sean with us

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today.
In fact, we've known each other

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for, I don't know, maybe 15
years at some level.

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And you've had a really
interesting journey even since

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we've known each other aside
from the beginning of all that,

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you know, prior to this.
So thank you for being with us

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today.
Really super appreciate it.

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I'm looking forward to having
this chat if it's OK with you.

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Let's just start at the
beginning and tell us how all

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all this came about.
The real Charge me a little bit,

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that'll be great.
Sure, sure.

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So I'll ask the mix.
I'll start with a little bit of

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a background.
I live in Atlanta, but

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originally from New York.
And then work wise quick the

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resume after school I did 15
years, I did international

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institutional equity sales, so
sell U.S. stocks to banks

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overseas.
And then in 2007 with a partner

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Co founded the first impact
investing investment bank.

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I did that for 16 years.
So we'd raise money for impact

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and sustainable companies raise
money for impact and sustainable

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private equity funds put on
different investor convenings,

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had an online investor portal
about 1000 LP's and 10 GPS at

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any one time.
And that's where we were

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overlapping in the past.
And then there's the you know

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what happened?
Where, where are you now?

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So then there was the mental
health story and I'm happy to

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give you a little snapshot.
So it was an interrupt me

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anytime you want to.
It was September 22.

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I was depressed, had trouble
eating, had trouble sleeping.

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I lost 40 lbs, which is
wonderful people be like you

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look amazing and I'm back.
I never felt.

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Worse.
Yeah, you look amazing, but I

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don't feel so shit.
Yeah, actually, like shit.

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But you look amazing.
Like, what are you doing?

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I was like, I'm not really
eating, but I don't really tell

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them that.
And then the depression was

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growing and then it was a, it
was this December 19th.

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And I think especially when
you're not really eating and

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sleeping.
Of course I was eating and

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sleeping but but not well the
system gets weak.

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So it was December 19th.
I was on a zoom called like LPGP

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call have like a full mental
breakdown not functioning can't

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speak pretty much suicidal
telling my wife I don't want to

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be here anymore.
Please freaking kill me.

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So, you know, most wives don't
want to hear that, Arthur.

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Some.
They don't want to hear that and

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you say it.
With some mites, Some mites,

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right.
Some mites.

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I don't know.
I don't know.

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I don't know.
So my wife didn't.

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So that's that's a keeper.
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So there you go.
So we don't know what to do.

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Yeah, it's very opaque.
So we're here in Atlanta.

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So we went to the emergency ward
and they basically rolled

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someone out that telemedicine.
They asked you all these

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questions.
Then they said, do you want to

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get checked in to the psych
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I don't know.
I don't.

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I have no idea what that means.
I saw one who flew the Cuckoo's

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Nest once, but I don't really
remember it.

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But I'm like, yeah, all right.
So.

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Right.
Yeah, I wasn't sure what I, I

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vaguely remember the movie, but
then I was like, all right,

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fine, I want to go somewhere.
So packed up my sound machine,

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my IMAX, my computer and went
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And 1st we checked in, there was
this lovely older woman.

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She seemed like a second grade
teacher to me.

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And then the next room there was
a lovely police officer.

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And you can't have any of those
things there, right?

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You can't even have a string in
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So it kind of became, yeah, real
very quickly to be in that

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situation.
So I was in that place for yeah,

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I was in touch.
I was in there for for two days.

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I'm happy to get into it.
But then, then, but then I went

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out.
I, I, I, I went home and then I

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wanted to go back to work at the
company I Co founded.

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And I had two partners in the
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And sometimes things don't work.
Our partners.

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This is a, a normal situation.
So the partners ended up buying

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me out of the firm.
That's great.

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I got some money.
We had probably didn't have to

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work for a year.
That's it.

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But the company was my whole
identity, my whole life, my

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whole existence.
So when that happened, I felt

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deeper in depression.
I started shaking.

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It was kind of wacky.
And then another dude came into

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the story.
His name is Brett.

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Heard our kids played Little
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And then he was friend also
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Not too friendly, but he was
friendly.

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So my my wife basically texted
Brett and said, hey, Sean's in a

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bad place.
He came back right away and

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asked him all the right
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Is not a therapist or anything,
but is he in a safe place?

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This has happened to a lot of
people, especially guys.

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So something similar happened to
Brent.

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So Brett became now what I call
my mental health sponsor.

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So think of Alcoholics Anonymous
and you have a sponsor,

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basically a buddy, right?
So walking, talking, hanging

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out.
And then I went away to two

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treatment centers, one in
California, one in Florida.

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I was gone for about 70 days.
They take away your phone.

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I was in therapy all day.
And then I got back and how the

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real started.
I got back a little bit over two

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years or so.
And me and Brad, we were talking

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on the phone and we're like,
dude, you know that that was

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serious.
That was real.

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I said, yeah, man, that was
real.

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I said that's what we're going
to call it.

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We're going to call it the real.
And then he said to me, well,

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what is it?
And of course I said, I said, I,

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I, I have no idea, but I know
there's a lot of men, women and

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families that are suffering and
I think we, we've learned some

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stuff.
I'll stop for a second.

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There's a chapter 2 and what
we're doing, but that that's the

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intro.
So, and you don't have to answer

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this if it's too personal.
I'll answer anything, I don't

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worry.
Yeah, no, I'm totally cool and I

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expect that, but I just want to
give you an out if you want it.

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Yeah, go ahead.
Is the, you know, some you joked

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about it, but some spouses would
say, wow, finally got rid of

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him.
He's too crazy for me.

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Let's let him just sort of drift
away and move on with my life.

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But you sounded like you got
somebody that really cared,

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right?
No, my wife is the hero in the

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story.
She had to take care of

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everything.
Life goes on when you're in that

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treatment center and she.
Has to deal with.

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My mom yeah I got AI got a 18
year old and my son's almost 17

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so they were a little younger
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about 3-4 years ago whatever
life goes on yeah it's not and

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and she has to report to
everybody oh it's the.

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Caregiver, that's a tough
position.

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And and there's I've heard lots
of stories now where exactly

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what you're saying, where I
speak to a lot of people and

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some of them where the person on
the other side wasn't that I

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can't, I don't, you know, every
circumstance difference.

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I'm not blaming anybody, but
that's just that's you never

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know.
Yeah.

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So here's another private
question.

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Did you get to the bottom of the
reason that you were depressed

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and this and whatever caused
this, were you able to get to

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the bottom of that on some
level?

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Sure, I don't know if there is a
bottom, but I can tell you that

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I was depressed from time to
time these 30s forties.

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It would come, it would go.
I knew I was depressed because

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I'd I'd lose weight.
It was a great diet.

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And I also say, you know, I was
at a 10/1 time.

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That's a bad place.
But every human is at a two or

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four or six at one time.
If you're breathing, this kind

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of shit's going to happen.
Maybe not to that extent, but it

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happens.
So in this specific situation,

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it was a combination platter.
So I had COVID right before.

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I'm not blaming COVID, but I
think that weakens the system.

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Couldn't have helped.
Right.

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No, it doesn't help.
It doesn't help.

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It's all about weakening the
system.

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And then it wasn't anything that
no one else is going through.

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It was a combination not
sleeping well, not eating well,

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getting older.
Who am I?

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What am I?
OK, challenges with work.

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It just felt like it was kept on
getting the bricks on my

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shoulder.
So that's, that's what it was.

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But to look at a different way
and OK, that's terrific.

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Then how do you come out of it?
To me, it's more looking at

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things differently now,
basically kind of having

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different lenses in the glasses,
looking at looking at the world

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differently.
Not have to go sit on a

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mountain.
You can sit on a mountain if you

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want.
And of course I had a therapist

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that help you help, but I think
it's just how I was looking at

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things.
There's a, an obvious and

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omnipresent trend now to see
what trauma happened in your

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life or in your lineage that may
cause you to need healing on

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some level.
And I'm being facetious on some

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wait a minute.
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catalyzed partly by people
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saying, holy shit, I don't have
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What am I going to do?
What am I going to think about?

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So they had an opportunity that
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everything done.
And so people not only traded

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Bitcoin, but they sat and
thought about life, right?

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Is it?
Is that part of what you see as

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well?
People are analyzing it more.

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Is that what you?
Mean, yeah, I'm saying that

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people have have come to the
grips.

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I think on some level some
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what I see.
I don't know anything.

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Yeah, it's all good.
It's all good.

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Is that OK?
There might have been some

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trauma in my childhood or my
family and This is why I'm

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depressed or can't deal with
certain things or go in the

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corner and and get all my
knickers in A twist or getting

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the 2A knot.
Is there any of that that you

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see happening in your world as
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anything else?
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So now I've spoken to thousands
of people and then talk in front

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of them and, and a couple of
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This is never 1° away from
anybody's always half a degree

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or 0°.
And I can't tell you that

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there's so many different
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different.
So sure, I think all these

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things are combination platters
is it's just building up of

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different things.
Sure, could be your upbringing.

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older or even, hey, how society
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I think it's it's not one thing
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different.
All those, there's so many

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factors that you can you can put
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I really like and appreciate
what you said about changed your

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point of view.
And it's, if you don't mind me

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editorializing a little bit for
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regular view from the Buddhists,
for example, that if you just

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adjust your lens, you can go
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prior, but try it for a second
and adjust the way you see

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something that might reveal a
method of dealing with life in

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general, right?
And what's interesting is they

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always said you go back to the
old way of looking at it if you

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want, but if you just try and
see what happens, right?

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So what you were saying is that
you've changed your view on

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certain things that have helped
you deal with things.

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Yes, and every day I will think,
OK, I'll my thinking, how I

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thought about this before for 50
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You know what?
That wasn't really helping me.

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I'm going to think about this a
little differently and then I

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can look at it.
I could kind of see it on it.

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It's also observing what, how
you're thinking and not thinking

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that your mind is not always
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Yeah, your, your brain is a
machine that's just creating all

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kinds of things.
So it's lying to you a lot.

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So if you see those things, then
you can be like, OK, I believe

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this.
I don't, not everything your

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brain says is correct.
But it's, it's a tool, Yeah.

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And a toolbox.
And it's just always working.

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But you don't have to.
You don't have to agree with it,

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and you don't have to do what it
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Yeah, I think that if that's the
only thing people get out of

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hearing you today, I think
that's super valuable.

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There's just my opinion.
There's a friend of mine that

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wrote a book, his name's MO
Gaudat, and it was solved for

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Happy from an engineer's
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He was an engineer at Google,
super successful guy.

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And at the end of the book, it
basically said your mind is not

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you.
You're the observer of your

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mind, so don't let it take
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So it's kind of the same thing
that you're saying, right?

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Yeah.
And, and, and this is Buddhism.

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This is 1,000,000.
I mean, this is not like some

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new thing that I'm talking about
from all these people.

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And it's pretty, it's pretty
similar.

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But then when you can actually,
it's hard to do.

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But once you can do it, it's
just not that it's perfect.

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But if you start thinking in
that way, then you can look at

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things just a little bit
differently and even the things

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that society teaches you.
And of course, we're talking

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about family offices and man
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And there's that the other
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But it doesn't even matter how
much money you got, that's you

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might be miserable in a bigger
house, but it's also how you how

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you look at these different
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And I'm going to be a little
chapter 2 of my story that will

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also please permeate that.
So chapter 2 was what is this?

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You know, I was saying me and
Brent pick out the name I didn't

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know.
So my default is LinkedIn.

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So I went out on LinkedIn and I
basically sent a message, hey, I

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was in a bad place.
I'm starting this thing called

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the real.
And then I hit the button.

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That was scary.
I hit the button to let's say

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30,000 folks.
So many people came back, so

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many people, super supportive.
And then a lot of people, I

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became like Brent, they wanted
to talk to me and I became like

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a mental health sponsor like
Brent was because I'm not a

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therapist or anything, but if
you could say a man or woman,

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listen, I know exactly how you
feel.

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You don't want to get out of
bed, you don't want to take a

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shower.
And, and you think I might not

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want to be here anymore.
And then the worst thing is you

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think that's just never going to
end, right?

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This is it.
But I can tell them 100% I do

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not know when it's going to end,
but it's going to end.

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That's, and I'm, I do that a
couple times a week, almost

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every day talking to people
because you get into this bad

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head where you can't.
A therapist said a good thing to

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me.
She said it's like you're a fish

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in a fishbowl when you're in
that head and just someone's

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shaking the hell out of it.
You don't know which way is up,

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you know, but one guy that hit
me and you're going to know him.

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So Ron Diamond, I'm sure you
know Ron.

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So from, from Tiger 21, I don't
want to, I want to, I don't want

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to pitch competitors, but no.
So Ron hit me and he's like,

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hey, I didn't know Ron at all.
I thought it was another person

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that needed help, but he goes.
Can you come and speak to our

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group?
I say yeah, sure.

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So this was June 5th of 23.
Got on the plane, me and Brent,

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we went to see his tiger group
in Chicago.

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He's got a couple.
And I was telling the story like

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I'm telling you and 10 minutes
in, the hands go up.

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The hands go up, right?
Because everyone's talking.

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Everyone's it just, it's just
like popcorn.

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You hear that it's going to pop.
And all these guys and women

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telling the stories.
Supposed to go for 40 minutes,

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goes for an hour and a half.
You know, you have billionaire

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guys opening up.
It doesn't matter.

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It.
Doesn't matter.

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You gave permission.
Yeah, because they feel

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comfortable and some of them
were my old clients.

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Whatever, it's it's it, it's
fine.

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So then what happened was Ron
was like, that was great.

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I said, yeah, no, it just just
happens to, you know, it's it's

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it's normally this is a human
condition.

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So of course decided to go on a
roadshow.

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I don't know why, because I
always go on roadshow with my

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Old Firm.
So that that summer we went on a

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roadshow.
We did Nantucket, we did

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Martha's Vineyard, we were in
Greenwich, all kind of investor

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places.
Because I'd done that before.

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We didn't have, well, we didn't
have a, an ask.

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We didn't have a like now
there's a there's a for profit,

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not profit, but we just had a
story and people be like, well,

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what are you at?
Well, like I.

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I don't know, this story is just
resonating.

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And I also think just going
around telling the story that

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that also helped me a lot.
But people would be like thank.

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And they would be like, thank
you.

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I don't know they would do it
for you.

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But I like it.
Yeah, for me.

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But they were they were like,
thank you.

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I don't, I don't know what you
guys are doing, but I really

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like it.
I want to help you.

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So I was like, OK, wonderful.
Well I don't mind saying to you

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in awe of every time I see a
post or see some activity from

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you, it's another 13141520
people stepping up and wearing

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hats and saying I'm doing this.
And I also don't mind saying I

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don't know what the fuck it is
that you're doing, but I'd like.

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To tell you that's good, because
now I have to call here.

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So, OK, so then I was telling
you we went on the roadshow and

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then it kind of formed
eventually it there's a fourth,

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there's a foundation and then
there's a for profit.

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I'll give you the foundation.
And also if you can go to the

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website of the foundation, it's
the real dot care.

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So the foundation is, is based
on the power of conversation and

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community.
Yeah, because that mental health

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complicated A lot of pieces, but
that, that helped me a lot, you

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know, conversation community.
And I think that community is,

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is, is the medicine.
So the foundation is based on

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three CS.
It goes conversation goes to

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community goes to change.
And soon you'll understand all

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these posts conversation.
So the talk that I gave at Tiger

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21 and we did the roadshow, I
call that the real talk, right?

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And now I've done that 2030
places and it's a conversation.

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It's like we're doing right now.
It's a conversation.

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I'll stop talking.
People start telling their

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stories.
I don't ask them to, they just

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do.
And when you have that and we

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have those conversations
breakdown the stigma, people

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feel more comfortable because
everyone thinks like you're

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saying, gives them permission.
So the idea there is one guy

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telling the story is wonderful.
But how about 10?

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How about 100?
How about 1000?

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So our goal, one of our goals is
to help 10,000,001 men with

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their mental health by 2030.
So think of the talk like, like

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it's a Ted talk, right?
With a certain look, a certain

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field.
So 10 finance guys, 10 marketing

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guys, 10, whatever kind.
Yeah.

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Because I think people associate
with people that are similar.

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And think of that like, like a
library of talks so that people

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can watch those.
And you know that a music video

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has been watched lots of times,
a billion times.

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So this is how you get in front
of a lot of people.

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So that's one is the
conversation.

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That's the first C and the
second C is community.

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Yeah.
So I was talking about my friend

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Brent.
But there's so many people that

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came out of the woodworks and I
had stories of people coming out

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of the strangest places.
But we have, you'll see on our

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website, we have these
ambassadors.

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So our goal is to get to 1001
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We have our close to 500 now and
they're all over the all over

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the freaking planet.
It's around 30 countries, 6

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continents and all kinds of
guys, all kinds of guys there.

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Tons of fam, there's family
office guys, there's finance

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guys, but there's all all kinds
of folk there.

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So what are we doing with them?
So one is we're working on an

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app.
It's still early, but here's the

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basic idea.
I don't know if it's be internal

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or external.
Give guys a safe place they

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could talk about this stuff, not
feel like they're judged, you

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know?
2 Brent was my mental health

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sponsor.
Be a mental health sponsor.

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Find a mental health sponsor,
help somebody out.

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Yeah, three.
I don't think I should have went

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to the psych ward, but me and my
wife, we didn't know who to talk

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to.
People always hit me for advice

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or for their kids or for their
moms, their dads.

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Not that I'm giving out medical
advice, but at least I have some

450
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,040
experience just to help people
on this journey because it's

451
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,760
super opaque.
No one knows where to go, what

452
00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:10,040
to do.
It's just very, it's hard.

453
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,880
And then people are interested
in different modalities, yoga,

454
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,880
mindfulness meditation,
psychedelics.

455
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,920
I think these, all these things
are super interesting.

456
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,600
But I, I'm a sales guy, you
know, in general, but, but I

457
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,480
would have learned it from other
people in the group.

458
00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,720
And then now I'm going to get to
the pictures and the ambassadors

459
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,400
and what they do.
So the ambassadors and again, we

460
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,800
got a close to 500.
What do we do with them?

461
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:34,800
Every 3rd Saturday of the month?
We do this thing called speed

462
00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,120
friending.
So what is that?

463
00:21:37,120 --> 00:21:41,880
We had about 100 guys on the
call last last month and we get

464
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:46,000
on a call and then we break up
into groups, 246 we do some

465
00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,920
rotations, you know, 8 minutes
or something.

466
00:21:48,120 --> 00:21:49,680
What are we talking about?
Are we talking about mental

467
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,320
health sometimes?
Are we talking about nothing

468
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:54,320
sometimes?
Does it matter?

469
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:57,440
No, because.
Because it's building community

470
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,920
and conversations and guys are
meeting other guys out there and

471
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,360
just feeling like they're part
of something which which they

472
00:22:03,360 --> 00:22:05,120
are.
And if they need support, this

473
00:22:05,120 --> 00:22:07,480
guys in there that are going to
help them because they can

474
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,920
associate work, marriage,
whatever every topic someone has

475
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,640
experienced and and they can
talk to you about that if you

476
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,120
want or or not.
So that's one thing we do.

477
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,040
And then the second thing that
we do is we do this thing called

478
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,440
the real walk.
That's where you see all these

479
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,040
hats.
So the real walk happens the

480
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:26,800
third side of the every month.
And now it's happening close to

481
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,000
500 locations all over the
planet.

482
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,840
So in essence, the guys wear the
hat to get the hat or not the

483
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,840
hat, it doesn't matter.
And then they go for a walk.

484
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,000
Or why?
Because there's a lot of

485
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,040
isolation, there's a lot of
loneliness.

486
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,160
There's also a lot of division.
I go for a walk with a guy named

487
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,480
Bob every Thursday.
Bob, me and Bob couldn't

488
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,960
disagree more on any subject
ever.

489
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,880
Literally, we are fighting on
any subject.

490
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:54,600
I'm on one side, he's on the
other.

491
00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,600
Who cares when we're done, Bob?
OK, brother, love you.

492
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:01,880
I'll see you next week.
It doesn't matter.

493
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,160
And then even doesn't have to be
a walk.

494
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,320
It's interesting people
interpreted differently.

495
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,720
I saw one guy, he's doing hot
yoga, another guy he's smoking

496
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,080
cigars with his friends, another
guys golf.

497
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:15,680
It doesn't matter.
It's just being part of

498
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,680
something.
And they and they do with their

499
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,840
wives, their ex wives, their
dogs, their cats, 10 people, one

500
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,680
person, 100 people, whatever.
That doesn't matter.

501
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,360
So that's, that's, that's when
you're seeing all the hats and

502
00:23:26,360 --> 00:23:28,240
stuff.
So we have the ambassadors.

503
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,920
Then I'm talking about this.
So this is not this, I'm talking

504
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,280
about guys.
But this isn't a guy thing,

505
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,000
right?
But guys, guys meet shoulder to

506
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:37,720
shoulder.
Women meet face to face.

507
00:23:38,120 --> 00:23:40,200
They just talk about stuff
differently.

508
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,520
Guys in general are loners and
they don't want to talk about

509
00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,160
this stuff.
But what do women want?

510
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,640
I'm not sure what they want,
Arthur, but I know one thing

511
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,680
they want is healthy guys, OK?
They want to have healthy

512
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,000
husbands and sons and uncles and
grandfathers.

513
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:57,240
So we have these incredible
women right now, about 50 or so

514
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,160
that are the allies, right?
And most.

515
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,840
Most women that you want to be
associated with in one way or

516
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:09,160
another aren't looking for
somebody who, when a crisis hits

517
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,920
or just daily life, that they're
going to crumble in the corner.

518
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,240
And I'm not saying that that
doesn't happen and it shouldn't

519
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,200
be addressed.
I'm just saying that's not the

520
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,600
profile, right?
Of the of the Allies.

521
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,040
Of the woman About what a
woman's looking for, right?

522
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,440
Yeah, but you know, these things
happen in life, OK.

523
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,720
And you got the better for
worse, all that stuff.

524
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,840
So and every situation is
different.

525
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,680
I can't speak to every
relationship, but yeah, people

526
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,920
are going to struggle.
That's that's a guaranteed.

527
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,000
So you whatever that's that's
Yeah.

528
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:44,560
So but you'd want someone that's
going to support you.

529
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,880
And if you don't, you know,
that's maybe you get a new one.

530
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,720
I don't know.
But these are right these

531
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,320
things.
But these women, these women are

532
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:53,080
helping.
Yeah.

533
00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:57,720
So we have the ambassadors, we
have the allies, and then we

534
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,040
have embassies.
Because I thought that sounded

535
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,680
cooler than chapters.
So now we have guys, a bunch of

536
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,320
guys in New Zealand getting
together, guys in London, a

537
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,960
bunch of guys in San Francisco,
wherever, because we have them

538
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,200
all over.
That's that's that's one side of

539
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,400
it is the foundation.
So that goes conversation, goes

540
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,320
to community, goes to change.
Does that make sense?

541
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,760
Yeah, it totally makes sense.
And the women are involved

542
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,480
because they it resonates with
them.

543
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,160
Yeah, they want to help their
their mothers, their, their

544
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,960
wives, their sisters, they, they
and, and it's a Ying and a Yang

545
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,320
because if you help a man also
helps the family.

546
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,040
It helps them too, though.
There's a lot of one, one goes

547
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,400
together with the other.
This is not two separate things.

548
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,440
I I put it like this though.
OK, so women and men, I'll just

549
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,560
talk differently.
So I had one of the women who

550
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:48,600
was an advisor to the firm to
the, to the real.

551
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,640
She's like, the real is about
men talking about her feelings.

552
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:53,760
And when she said that I want to
throw up because guys don't talk

553
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,720
like that.
Guys say I had some challenges.

554
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,240
I went through some shit.
It means the same exact thing,

555
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,800
but you have to talk in
different languages, different

556
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,840
languages.
So, so they both want the same

557
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,760
thing.
So it's not, it's not, there's

558
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,680
no, there's no tug of war here
in, in terms of that.

559
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:17,160
So super interesting.
Like I said, I am just in awe of

560
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,040
how many people.
That's more, that's more, but

561
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,720
I'll get to that pick you going?
Yeah, please.

562
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,320
Yeah.
No, no, I just want to, I just

563
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:25,800
want to give you a heads up that
I just what I'm looking at, I'm

564
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,480
going how the hell is he doing
this?

565
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,840
And why is it so important?
And, and look how many people,

566
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:35,560
people that I know are stepping
up, sure, who don't have time to

567
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,920
do their priorities are stepping
up.

568
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,440
I mean, I'm not saying that
there's there smart busy

569
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:48,480
business people that I know and
they they are carving out the

570
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,480
most valuable asset they have,
which is their time to put your

571
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,640
hat on and at least pronounce
that they're involved.

572
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,640
I mean, that's impressive.
Yeah, sure.

573
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,080
And I also look at the real a
little bit like a sports team.

574
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,440
So, you know, some people love
the Yankees.

575
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,920
They're going to paint their
house pinstrikes and they could

576
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,160
name their kid Derek Jeter.
And some people go to won a game

577
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,400
every three years and it doesn't
matter and we're not taking

578
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,480
attendance.
You don't make every call.

579
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,240
It doesn't matter if you don't
go on a walk.

580
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,040
Doesn't matter.
It's more being part of

581
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,640
something.
But on the other side, honestly,

582
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,720
what's more important than how
you're feeling every single day?

583
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,440
Because your brains going 20.
So if you can't make time for

584
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,920
that, do you need make time to
make get more money?

585
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,240
Like that's not going to help
you.

586
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,440
That's nice.
But I so I'm just taking the

587
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,720
other side of the coin.
I mean, yeah, they're busy, But

588
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,280
if you're not going to take time
to help yourself and feel good,

589
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:42,040
then why?
Why are you so busy doing?

590
00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:43,560
Yeah, right.
For what reason?

591
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,440
Yeah, got it.
Now I'm now I'm going to, I'm

592
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,280
going to flip it.
It's kind of like back to what

593
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:50,440
we're talking about with the
Buddhist where they, they, and

594
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,120
I'm not advocating any dogmatic
thing over another, just to be

595
00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:56,040
super clear to the audience.
I don't care.

596
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:59,560
But it's the thing I think that
was smart is they said if you

597
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,920
don't have your shit together,
you can't help anybody else.

598
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,760
Like you can't be of value to
anybody else.

599
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,280
Yeah, they say.
Right.

600
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,720
They say if you don't put out
you put on your eyes from an

601
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,040
oxygen mask first before you
help other people.

602
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,840
That's exactly that they like to
say right like on the plane.

603
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,800
So the other side to the reel is
are more on the finance side.

604
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:20,440
So was the Co founder the first
impact investing investment

605
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,360
bank?
I saw how that space grew from

606
00:28:22,360 --> 00:28:24,840
nothing 1.5 trillion or whatever
it is.

607
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,280
So I had non compete my Old Firm
and then it burnt off and I was

608
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,560
like I got to put on an event
because a lot of companies, a

609
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,960
lot of funds and other folks
were coming my direction.

610
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,280
We put on and then one of our
goals is to help move $10

611
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,280
billion in new capital into
mental health by by 20-30.

612
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,040
I'm not raising $10 billion, but
I saw how we were helpful in the

613
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:46,600
impact investing space.
So we were putting on different

614
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,240
convening.
So we put on the first real

615
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,280
summit, the intersection of
finance and mental health.

616
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,120
We did that last October at
Deutsche Bank, Deutsche Bank's

617
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,240
headquarters in Columbus Circle
in the city, New York City.

618
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,080
What was it?
It was one a half of it was your

619
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,440
typical investment event.
Companies, funds, family

620
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,920
offices, the usual stuff all
around mental health.

621
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,720
Half of it was workshops.
How do you work on your own

622
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,160
mental health?
How do you become workers as a

623
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,040
founder?
How do you work with your teens?

624
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,000
All that different stuff.
And then we also interjected.

625
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,760
We did a real walk in Central
Park, people wearing the hats

626
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,720
and stuff, and then we had
people doing talks.

627
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,080
So we did that in the city in
New York, and then we did that

628
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,160
in Davos, Switzerland, and then
we did that in London and then

629
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,680
we just did it again in in New
York.

630
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,160
Yeah, I saw that.
Davos in London, we'll keep on

631
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,760
repeating that because that's
how you in my mind.

632
00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:38,640
And it's not just men.
This is mental health in

633
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,600
general, right?
How do you bring more capital

634
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,120
into this space?
Yeah, because on the on the flip

635
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:49,320
side, is there a bigger market
than every human on the planet?

636
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:53,480
So that's that's one side of it.
And the other side of it is how

637
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,440
do you make the invisible
visible?

638
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,880
Yeah.
So I think the real is a Bryant.

639
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,280
So if you think of you might
have seen these have these

640
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:02,960
shirts, life is good.
They still have them.

641
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,560
Life is good, hats and shirts
and all that stuff.

642
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,160
Or even there's this initiative
in Australia, started in

643
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,800
Australia that's all over the
world that they grow guys, grow

644
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,760
66 million guys, grow mustaches
or even think of Nike, just do

645
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,680
it.
So now people in 30 countries

646
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,880
all over the place, again, it's
tiny, are wearing the real hat

647
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,560
and and then there's going to be
other stuff so that you're, you

648
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,200
know, you're, you're walking in
the mountains up there and

649
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:27,400
you're wearing a hat or
something else.

650
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,280
Someone sees you, you see them.
You just know mental health

651
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,480
effects people.
And that other way to look at it

652
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,000
is where is there also a mental
health brand?

653
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,920
So now we're getting looking at
different, you know, kind of Co

654
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,240
branding things with other
people's.

655
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,840
That's that's another piece to
it.

656
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,760
Yeah.
So what?

657
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:53,280
What would you say was different
than you expected?

658
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:57,720
That was a good outcome from the
event in New York that you just

659
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,400
had.
In other words, what what did

660
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,000
you expect and what actually
happened?

661
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:07,520
What was really cool was we had
Andrew kind of out of the blue.

662
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,800
Andrew Yang, you remember him?
He ran for president.

663
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,880
Yeah, of course.
And Rick Perry, who also ran for

664
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:17,240
president, kind of found us.
We didn't pitch him or anything

665
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,200
and said we want to come when we
want to speak.

666
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:24,320
So that was really cool to have
a Republican and a Democrat both

667
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:30,760
there speaking because mental
health is 1 space where there's

668
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:32,920
really no one's lobbying against
it.

669
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:36,000
Right.
So that, that was really great.

670
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,640
And I think the other thing was
it's more if you and if you,

671
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,720
there's so many people posting
and it's wonderful about it.

672
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,480
But at the end of the day, it's
a feeling, right?

673
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:48,480
Because of course on one side
it's you've been a lot of

674
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,160
investment events.
So by I put them on, but you're

675
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:53,320
kind of bringing in the human
element into this.

676
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,240
So there's deeper conversations.
Of course they're talking about

677
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,480
IRRS and things like that, but
they're also saying, Hey, what's

678
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,800
going on with you?
How are you doing?

679
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,480
And people are sharing their
stories.

680
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,880
So you have both sides.
That was the, that was also not

681
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,440
for this one, but the first one,
it was a beta.

682
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:09,560
I was like, is this going to
work?

683
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,560
I, I don't know, but there's
some, some magical thing that's

684
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,600
happening there that people
like, OK, I went to this event,

685
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,360
you know, usual investor bet you
whatever you bonds with some

686
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,360
people, you might see some
ideas, but here you're creating

687
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,080
more of a bond.
I think more of kind of a

688
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:28,240
following a family to, I don't
know, family, but but you hear

689
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,200
what I'm saying.
And we had a lot of ambassadors

690
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,760
there.
We had a lot of allies there

691
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,320
that they're, they're, they're
super supportive of each other.

692
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,800
So that was it was more a
feeling than anything.

693
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,880
Yeah.
So I want to get to how I can

694
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,560
help you and the companies that
I have.

695
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:49,560
But I don't mind telling you
that while I don't have capacity

696
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:54,200
to do this often, I have a
handful of family offices that

697
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:59,400
I'm intimately involved with.
And it starts with money, but it

698
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,480
ends up always being something
else.

699
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,760
Of course, of course.
And so there isn't been a

700
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:12,360
situation where there's a super
fucked up person or family

701
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,160
member and everybody has this
problem, right?

702
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,840
No, every, every human, every
family office.

703
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:21,640
No, this is not unusual.
This is, this is, this is the

704
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,840
most usual situation that you
don't hear about, right?

705
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,360
This is in every house, every
car, rich, poor in between.

706
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,840
This is everywhere.
This is you don't hear about all

707
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,560
the time.
This is human beings.

708
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,360
This is what happens to them.
Yeah, it's really omnipresent, I

709
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,680
think.
That's just part of the human

710
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,360
condition.
It's not, it's nothing to be

711
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,200
embarrassed of.
Like it's I'm you're weak, blah,

712
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,040
blah, blah, whatever.
This is what happens to people.

713
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,080
This is this is what happens to
them.

714
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,240
I'm not maybe not to the extent
that happened to me, but it's

715
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,440
going to happen.
I was saying I was at A10, you

716
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,120
know, 2468.
That's going to that's that's

717
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:59,960
that's your life or something
like that's going to happen to

718
00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:02,640
you.
I tell you, I tell you, I tell

719
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,200
you, Arthur, I go into a lot of
rooms and I say, hey, please

720
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,680
raise your hand if you as a
family member or a friend has

721
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,840
never been negatively affected
by mental health.

722
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,719
I've never been in a room when
not everyone raised their hand.

723
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,920
Yeah, it doesn't matter.
There's a favorite author of

724
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,120
mine that's I think germane to
the subject that he says it's

725
00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:24,400
Joseph Campbell.
He says life is full of sorrow,

726
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,520
Embrace it.
He's basically saying, look,

727
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,159
we're all got problems, right?
And we're going to have problem

728
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,000
and it's endless.
Of course, of course, of course.

729
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:36,080
But but I also say on the on the
flip side that I was telling my

730
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,800
story and on one side, that was
definitely the worst thing that

731
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,400
ever happened to me in my life
100%.

732
00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:46,360
But on the flip side, in that
moment, But now if you ask me, I

733
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,840
might say, and I will say it was
probably the best thing that

734
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,120
ever happened to me.
I.

735
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,679
Totally get it.
So, so, so that's that's not a

736
00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:55,239
necessarily a bad thing that
happened.

737
00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,280
Yeah, yeah, it's kind of like
the dark and the light, right?

738
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,000
Contrast.
So.

739
00:35:03,720 --> 00:35:07,320
All right, so how can how can
the our listeners be Family

740
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:12,400
Office insights Our bevy of
companies help you further this

741
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,200
mission.
Sure.

742
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,840
So a couple of things.
If anyone wants to be an

743
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,360
ambassador, that's really easy.
Just hit me up LinkedIn.

744
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,160
And like I was saying, we're not
taking attendance.

745
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,840
You don't have to be at every on
every 3rd Saturday.

746
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:28,800
You don't have to go for a walk
and you don't have to be on

747
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,120
every call.
That doesn't matter.

748
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,320
It's more being part of
something and then just telling

749
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,720
other folks.
And then I do a lot of just

750
00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:39,120
people hit me all the time and
say, Hey, my buddy's not doing

751
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,360
good and I say, OK, well, I will
talk to them.

752
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,920
That's that's easy stuff.
Of course we need dough, right?

753
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:50,400
So how we've, I self funded this
and it's, to start, I am a

754
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,920
family, not a family office.
So I put in about a half million

755
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:55,360
bucks, which is a lot of money
for me.

756
00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:59,360
And then we got some donations.
We got like 100 grand donations

757
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,960
in the beginning, but we didn't
really have, you know, this, you

758
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,040
only have one chance to make a
first impression, you know, with

759
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,960
your events.
We didn't have everything baked.

760
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,320
So I, I met people that I knew
and they maybe they gave me some

761
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:10,760
money from their death.
Whatever they say.

762
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,160
Sean, I don't know what you're
doing, but I like you.

763
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,080
And so, you know, here's some
dough.

764
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,520
But now we can't, we have these
programs set up, we have the

765
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,160
mission.
We know how we're rolling this

766
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,600
out.
So right now, yeah, we're we're

767
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,680
working on $1,000,000 raise.
I'm not raised, I cause

768
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,360
something like a company, but,
but for our donations, tax

769
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:34,400
deductible donations to help
really roll this out everywhere

770
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:38,800
and to accelerate this and also
to train the, the ambassadors

771
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,320
and the allies to, to be even
more effective.

772
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:46,120
So we're doing an event in New
York in the city, December 9th

773
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,000
at A at a brokerage firm.
That's that that's hosting us.

774
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,640
Then we're doing an event in
Chicago on the 10th and we're

775
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,120
doing an event in Denver on the
11th.

776
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,360
So yeah, we're hoping people
might, might donate.

777
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,680
And then the other side is if
they want to attend some of the

778
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,560
other events, we're in Davos,
we're in London, we're back in

779
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,600
New York.
It's the usual stuff, like any

780
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:06,880
events, looking for sponsors and
all that jazz.

781
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,680
What's the Yeah, we could
definitely socialize those

782
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,040
events for you.
So you know, post, post this,

783
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,000
let's talk about sure, that's
easy for us to do.

784
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:22,040
There's a company called Daft
Share that we just hosted who

785
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:29,480
basically is taken a page out of
the fintech world and said, OK,

786
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,920
matching gifts, non profit
donations, all that is a mess.

787
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:39,520
There's got to be an easy way.
And so I'm going to send you a

788
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:44,320
link so you can, especially if
you have somebody who will do a

789
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,480
matching grant, like sure, you
put it on DAF share and then all

790
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:51,080
of a sudden it actually works,
right?

791
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,800
People say, oh, wait a minute,
you mean I can just put my DAF

792
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,880
money in here and I can.
And so it's a fintech that

793
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:02,840
basically accelerates the easy
deployment of DAF money.

794
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,200
So I'll.
Yeah, I mean, Dafs are great for

795
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,120
us.
That's, you know, of course, you

796
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,440
know, the whole story.
There's whatever, a trillion

797
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,120
dollars sitting in Dafs just
sitting there.

798
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:15,440
Just sitting there, yeah.
Well, the, the, the reps don't

799
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,880
want it to go anywhere because
you're managing the money right.

800
00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:21,800
There's a little bit of a
situation there, but.

801
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:26,600
Have you had any luck in Silicon
Valley with some of your folks?

802
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,600
Here's the thing, I've not
really made any ass.

803
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,720
I haven't run around.
We're we're really at the point

804
00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:38,720
where now we're ready, right?
It's, you know, it's like any

805
00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:40,480
other arrays.
You don't have your docs in a

806
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,920
row.
Now it's like, OK, we got

807
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:44,720
everything.
We got everything.

808
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,280
I mean, it's not perfect, but we
got the good structure here.

809
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,400
Now we're ready to hit the road.
So I'm going to those three

810
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,920
cities, but then I'm going to do
like a nine city tour, San

811
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,160
Francisco, LA, whatever, Miami,
blah, blah, blah.

812
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,440
So we're, we're kind of we're at
that point.

813
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,640
Yeah, there's a group in Silicon
Valley that has a lot of the

814
00:39:05,240 --> 00:39:09,960
wealthy people there.
It's it's basically a foundation

815
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,680
organization.
And I will tell you that a lot

816
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,560
of the dough that's sitting in
that foundation is in the form

817
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:21,280
of non public shares.
So it's not liquid.

818
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,160
I mean a lot of it, but there's
a lot of liquid money in the

819
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,240
foundation as well.
So we'll talk about that after.

820
00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:29,720
Yeah.
And then that's another thing.

821
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:34,200
Of course, we can take real
estate equity, there's whatever.

822
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:35,960
It's not always just cash,
whatever.

823
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,800
So there's a lot of options.
Yeah, super cool.

824
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:41,440
So what?
What?

825
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:45,880
What is the next step?
Tell talk about Davos.

826
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:50,240
How's that work for you?
Davos is super cool.

827
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,240
This will be the third time that
I went.

828
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:57,040
We put on this mental health day
in Davos, so I don't know if

829
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,880
you've ever been to Davos.
Have you been yet?

830
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,080
So.
Many times but not.

831
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,240
Davos.
Yeah, but I'll give you because

832
00:40:03,240 --> 00:40:05,320
I didn't know either.
So how does Davos work?

833
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:11,160
So Davos, think of it as a long
promenade or a long Rd. in a ski

834
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,560
town.
And that road is 2 miles long.

835
00:40:13,720 --> 00:40:18,520
And instead of a ski shop, this
the storefront becomes Bloomberg

836
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:25,080
becomes the country of Saudi
Arabia, whatever Morgan Stanley.

837
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:29,800
So literally you're and then
110th of the two miles is the

838
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,560
World Economic Forum.
So that part costs you like 200

839
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:35,280
grand to get into, right?
And that's where the world

840
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,200
leaders and CNBC is going to be
sitting.

841
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,760
But really most of it is going
this 95% is on this road where

842
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,000
you're going to these different
places and just seeing people.

843
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,120
So we have a space in one of
those places.

844
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,920
So we put on the mental health
day there.

845
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,000
It was cool.
Last year we had Patrick

846
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,920
Kennedy.
So he's seen him out of talk

847
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,960
about men's mental health and
then you see people on the

848
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,000
street we saw Scare Moochie and
he's now he's he, we took a

849
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,360
picture with him wearing the
real hat.

850
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,960
So it's just another way to get
the word out.

851
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,840
But I tell you some other
something kind of funny.

852
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,520
And I remember the first time I
went and I was like, I don't

853
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:12,640
know.
And I went as a guest of my

854
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,080
friend and I was like, I don't
know, people going to really go

855
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:16,560
for this.
And we didn't have anything.

856
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,480
I just had one hat.
I didn't have lots of hats.

857
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,560
And then I was just having
conversations with people.

858
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,840
And even that was, I would say,
oh, this is a men's mental

859
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,320
Health Foundation.
And the thing that they would

860
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,400
always say to me is 0.
That's so needed.

861
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,120
It didn't matter who it was.
They would just say wherever

862
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:34,040
they are on the planet or you
know, obviously you have super

863
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,680
wealthy people, whatever, it
doesn't matter.

864
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,600
That's so needed that that was
always the.

865
00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:40,520
Well, yeah, we have a lot of
people.

866
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,000
We know they're going to Davos,
of course, in the community, and

867
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,080
so we can help you.
There too.

868
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:46,400
Well, you should go.
You should go.

869
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:50,600
It's yeah.
I'm open to go and I just, I

870
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,040
just don't, I just don't ski
anymore, even though I'm in the

871
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,280
mountains here.
We take off during the winter

872
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,120
and go somewhere warm.
But yeah, no, I'd be happy to

873
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,400
go.
It's fun, so talk about it.

874
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,160
Yeah, yeah.
So Sean, this has been awesome.

875
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,920
Like, I'm really grateful that
we were able to do this.

876
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:13,000
Yeah, we did it.
I'm serious about helping.

877
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:16,280
We'll be we'll serving.
And if you want to be an

878
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:17,720
ambassador, that's a lot of
pressure.

879
00:42:17,720 --> 00:42:20,600
Now, Arthur, you can be an
ambassador like these other

880
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:21,840
guys.
Only think about it.

881
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:27,360
Now I understand what it is.
It's not a big ask.

882
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:32,440
It's not like it's not what I'm.
Saying like, I tend to be on the

883
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,120
one hand, selfish and careful
with my time because of course

884
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,720
it's just like everybody else.
And then on the other hand, I

885
00:42:40,720 --> 00:42:44,320
want to deliver, right?
So now you just explained it to

886
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:45,960
me so.
What is it?

887
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,520
Do you go on a walk ever?
I go on a walk all the time.

888
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:51,640
Yeah, yeah.
Do you have a head?

889
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,880
You know, you know, we have a
camera.

890
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:55,560
Yes.
What are the things that I've

891
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:56,520
been doing?
You're done.

892
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,720
Yeah. 17 years is.
I learned Transcendental

893
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:05,280
Meditation when I was 17 as a
lark, Like it was just OK,

894
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,720
Somebody needed a companion to
go get their month.

895
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,760
And so I've been doing that
since since then.

896
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:18,440
And for example, we go to the
gym almost every day and we take

897
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,400
a walk after we work out,
whether it be inside or outside.

898
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,440
And that meditation time is so
valuable.

899
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:30,400
It's like it's the most valuable
thing great of the day.

900
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,920
So, and I tell you something
interesting about that.

901
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,520
We have guys that look at the
real, they look at it all

902
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,720
different ways, right?
Some are like this is about

903
00:43:37,720 --> 00:43:39,160
peer-to-peer.
Some of this is about

904
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,040
meditation, some of this, this
is about religion, some of this

905
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,040
around sports, psychedelics.
It doesn't matter.

906
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:49,240
Whatever they we're bringing the
people together and how whatever

907
00:43:49,240 --> 00:43:51,120
magic the, you know, whatever
works for them.

908
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:53,200
Wonderful.
We're not.

909
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,760
I'm not judging it.
I'm not saying, you know, I know

910
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,400
it works for me, but that
doesn't mean it works for

911
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,080
somebody else.
So it's just bringing all the

912
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,280
people together and they help
each other.

913
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,840
Yeah, totally makes sense.
I get it.

914
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,720
All right, so we'll help you.
I like it.

915
00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:09,680
Thank you.
I appreciate.

916
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,160
It I really appreciate you
sharing with everybody.

917
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,360
I think that like I said, there
were a bunch of stuff that we

918
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,520
talked about.
I think that independently in in

919
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,280
aggregate would be helpful.
And it's hard to see on

920
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:23,080
LinkedIn.
I get it.

921
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:24,360
It's, it's, there's a lot of
stuff.

922
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,760
It's it's hard to understand.
No, but you produce results.

923
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,240
Like I said, everybody's going
to like what is it that he's

924
00:44:31,240 --> 00:44:33,560
doing that everybody's is buying
into, right?

925
00:44:33,600 --> 00:44:36,360
I love it.
Thank you, Sean, and thank you

926
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,440
to do this thing.
We'll be in touch after.

927
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,040
OK.
Thank you.

928
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:41,520
Thanks everybody for being here
today.

929
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:42,520
Thanks.
Bye bye.

930
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:43,440
Take care, bye.