From Trauma to Triumph: The Power of Healing with Paul Hutchinson.

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Yeah, you got it.
Hello.

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Welcome everybody to another
episode of Arthur's Round Table.

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Super grateful for all the
people that are paying attention

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and sharing this.
You know, we've had a lot of fun

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doing these, so thank you very
much for do that.

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The family office insights
community is very active and so

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thank you to everybody there.
And today Paul and I have done a

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little podcast at the early part
of the the doing these podcasts

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related to his work and his book
that was released back then.

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And just so everybody knows, we
we're friends, we've traveled

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the world together.
We've known each other for a

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quite a long period of time.
So I really appreciate him

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coming on his got some not only
good information to share about

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his history and journey, but
some new things coming out that

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you'll hear here today.
So again, thank you for

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everybody joining us.
And Paul, great to see you.

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Always good to see you.
I absolutely love you and Mary,

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what an incredible hearts you
guys have and, and with your

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positive energy and honestly, we
miss you.

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We, we, we were talking just the
other day, you know, if the

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hardest part about spending so
much time in South America and

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Colombia is 2 things, you know,
not seeing my grandkids enough

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and Arthur and Mary still
haven't come to see us so.

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Yeah, right.
We'll make, we'll fix that.

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Yeah, we'll fix that for sure.
But we miss you guys too and

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love you as as you know.
So let's do this for the group,

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if it's OK.
Let's start at the beginning.

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Some people know where this all
started with the business and

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then moving on to some of the
work that you've done for

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children and so forth.
And so let's let's do a little

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background on that and then
we'll go from there if that's

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all right.
Absolutely, absolutely.

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Well, you know, back in my early
teens, I started a mental health

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company.
It was a company that helped

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people overcome anxiety,
depression, PTSD, addictions,

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childhood trauma.
We had that, some workbooks and

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some audio programs that we were
marketing.

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I was selling a coaching program
that that we would line up a

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personal coach and help people
move forward.

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We had 50,000 people a month
calling in off of an infomercial

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to get a workbook and audio
programs to, to get help with

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these things.
And I recognize at that point

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that the world is full of people
who struggle and they struggle

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silently and it and there's and
it doesn't matter if you're rich

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or poor or white or black or
what religion doesn't matter.

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All peoples carry some heavy
burdens and it either comes out

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in anger issues or addiction
issues or anxiety, depression,

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and a lot of it stems from some
unhealed wounds of our

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childhood.
And it may not be a verbal,

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physical sexual abuse that might
might be an emotionally absent

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father.
Whatever I'm, whatever it was we

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needed at what age.
And so helping people heal from

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that was a big part of my life.
I, I sold that company when I

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was 29 years old.
I sold it for $20 million.

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Now, a lot of that was
restricted stock in a pink sheet

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company, but I was rich on paper
and that made me feel good about

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myself and I had some cash and
enough to start investing.

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And the Co founder with John
Pennington and I Co founded a

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company called Bridge Loan
capital.

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It was a hard money lending
company.

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Really what happened is I
started investing my money in

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real estate and realized if I
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me, I was going to lose all my
money in real estate.

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So put together A-Team, John and
I built bridge loan capital up

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to about 100 million in assets
under management.

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And, and then we, we expanded
our team into something that

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that grew exponentially.
We merged it with a company

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called Bridge Investment, I mean
bridge property management.

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We started a fund that invested
in multifamily and senior

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housing and I built that up to
almost $20 billion while I was

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still there at AUM.
I'm still an owner, still a

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founder, but I retired in 2017.
Lots of smart people running the

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game.
Now it's well over 50 billion.

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They ended up going public after
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After they did go.
The RDG on this New York Stock

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Exchange is what they ended up
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So it was a It was a beautiful
win, but my heart was in

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philanthropy.
I have a unique past where I I

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LED more than 70 undercover
child rescue missions in 15

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countries.
So I put some of the money into

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creating an awareness campaign.
In fact, film called The Sound

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of Freedom came out a few years
ago.

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I'm the primary investor,
executive producer of that film.

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And hundreds of millions of
children are safer now because

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of the awareness that was
created in that film.

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And, and today we run healing
retreats.

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I recognized after all the years
of fighting that darkness of

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child trafficking and everything
else, I recognize that we were

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never going to fix the problem
pulling children out of hell.

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We needed to pull the hell out
of humanity.

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We needed to go back to my roots
of what happened 35 years ago

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with a company that help people
with anxiety, depression, PTSD,

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addictions, childhood trauma.
And now we can go into this

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deeper later in the
conversation.

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But Long story short, about 10
years ago, I connected with some

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doctors and some scientists that
were working on some new

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protocol and the proper use and
I emphasize proper the proper

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use of psychedelics when it
comes to helping people overcome

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anxiety, depression, PTSD,
addictions, childhood trauma,

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etcetera.
And so since that time have now

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hosted and facilitated almost 90
guided meditation, breath work,

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plant medicine, facilitated
experiences to help people

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release what no longer serves
them and step into the highest

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and best version of themselves.
So that's a kind of A-Z there

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and we can talk about whatever
your audience wants to hear.

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Everything from a business
success.

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I have a new book.
My original 1 was The Sound of

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Freedom.
That's all over.

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Amazon just a little bit this
way.

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There we go.
That's.

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Good.
So the yeah, the Sound of

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Freedom book on Amazon and then.
See the other one.

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The new one that I just finished
is going to the publisher is

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called Your Infinite Wealth, the
Golden Age of Conscious

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Capitalism.
Nice.

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And people think, well, are they
related in every way They're

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related because I have seen that
the toxicity in our world that

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leads to everything from
domestic abuse to wars to even

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child trafficking.
A lot of it comes from the

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energy that we hold in our daily
life, how we treat each other

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and our family and our community
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If we're seeing business and
finance as a dog eat dog and a

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scarcity mindset and a take from
others for me to win that

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mindset in and of itself bleeds
over into how we treat others

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and our addictions, etcetera.
So you know, the conscious

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capitalism part is, is creating
millions, if not billions of

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dollars from a true win, win,
win, a true value for value, A

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conscious way of creating wealth
that's in alignment with, with

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the the laws of the universe,
divine Providence and how to how

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to use charity and and good
works to create that value for

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all.
Yeah, well, you and I both seen

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it an experience that that you
don't have to be a Dick to be

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successful in business.
You can actually approach it

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with a loving kindness mindset,
right.

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I mean, it doesn't have to be
the other way around.

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Some people see all the movies
or see people that presumably

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are relentless and but I, I
think that's as you described,

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it just adds toxicity to the
whole process and it's

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completely unnecessary.
And for the record, everybody

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aside from doing psychedelics
when I was a kid in high school,

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Paul has introduced us to a
process and one that was guided

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properly and it was a life
changing experience for us.

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So aside from, you know, we knew
each other way before that.

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But you know, I have to thank
you for that because it's

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changed our lives in A and it
wasn't instantaneous, but over a

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period of time.
And the, the whole experience

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has been amazing.
And of course that we

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experienced together with you
and Hannah and Vanessa, Kira and

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so forth was enriching.
It's been an enriching process.

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So for the.
Record and we've got we've

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gotten way better at it since
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You know that was you and I have
known each other for a long

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time.
That was way back in the

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beginning with some facilitators
that were training us.

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Today, our retreats are anywhere
from a three day, four night

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retreat all the way up to an
entire week long, what we call a

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rebirth retreat.
And we have there's 180

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different strands of psilocybin
that that can be worked with and

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knowing the right ones at the
right time and to create the

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right experience is incredibly,
incredibly powerful.

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Now, just so you guys that you
know, the audience understands,

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I'm not a fan whatsoever of of
us decriminalizing it and then

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the kids deciding to go get iyad
on mushrooms with their friends

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at a rave party.
It's not only a bad idea, it

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could be dangerous.
What happens is, is the brain

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goes into a state of
neuroplasticity where you're

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very, very impressionable and
and a trained facilitator can

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take that neuroplasticity and go
in and, and help change that

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perceptions and the trauma from
what happened when you were

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seven, etcetera, but in the
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Now you've got a rave party,
you've got a rap music, you've

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got orgy going on, somebody
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And that environment can be
damaging to our subconscious

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mind.
I like to think of it like this.

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You know, if you imagine,
imagine there's this gold bar.

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This gold bar is our
subconscious.

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It literally runs 95% of our
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And and when we're when we're
kids, zero to 9 years old, it's

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in a state of liquification.
It's in a flow state.

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It's in what they call
neuroplasticity, very

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impressionable.
Now that's good because you can

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learn 3 or 4 languages at the
same time, but it's bad if your

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uncle does something horrific to
you or even if something simple

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your dad says, oh, you look ugly
blue, that can leave an

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impression.
And then when that gold bar

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hardens, now it takes 21 days to
chisel at the edge of it to try

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to make changes to that
subconscious mind those.

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But if you can turn it back into
a liquid state and that's really

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what happens that psilocybin
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allowing your subconscious mind
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And you can have some, some
beautiful aha type moments and a

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trained facilitator can help
reprogram some things that are

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super heavy.
It's a, it's a beautiful

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experience.
And we run those here at the

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sanctuary in, in South America.
Now I tell people, Medellin,

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Colombia used to be the most
dangerous place on the planet in

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the 80s when Pablo Escobar was
here, but he was taken out in

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the 90's.
The, the cartelo went up to

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Mexico and, and now all that's
left here is, is rose farms and

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coffee farms and chocolate farm.
So, so we ended up buying a

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chocolate farm.
We have 200 chocolate trees to

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trees on the property and 40
avocado trees, a river coming

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through the middle and cabins
all around it.

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And and this is where we hold
our retreats and they're.

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Beautiful.
That would be healing alone.

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Exactly, just come and sit by
the river and and enjoy the the

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the cacao is is healing all by
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So I think it's important and
thanks for saying it, that the

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having facilitators that are
trained in doing this is

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critical where you can't just
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And we've seen the consequences
of people winging and it's not

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good.
Also, can we talk a little bit

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about there's been lots of work
historically without

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psychedelics from smart people
like Alice Miller, the drama of

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a gifted child, how people have
it's, it's her analogy was these

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occlusions get chopped or laid
on this diamond, which is the

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kid as a youth, which is
unoccluded.

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And then over time, the carbon
deposits occlude that diamond.

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And by the time you're 40, you
got to go to therapy to chip it

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all off, right?
What have you discovered about

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even trauma that has been
generations prior?

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That may be and I and I, I don't
know what I'm talking about, but

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it's been suggested that some of
that can be embedded in your

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cell structure and you carry
trauma from prior generations.

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Have you worked with any of
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We we have have ancestral trauma

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and generational trauma and for
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there's significant evidence of
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well that is literally carried
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our DNA.
There's, there's the memory of

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what happened when you were when
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grandparents, etcetera.
I perfect example you know my I

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I used to be LDSI was raised in
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literally haunted.
It was it was legal to kill a

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Mormon back in the 1800s in
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Wild.
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People don't know this, but the
reason why Mormons were known to

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have multiple wives is because
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and to know you the government
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my DNA.
There was things there that

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distrusted government and and
wanted to hoard things go and

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make sure I had enough rice and
beans to last through every

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winter the rest of my life and
and looking over my shoulder a

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lot with this, this energy of
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And that wasn't taught to me by
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stuck in my DNA.
There's, there's, there's a lot

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of that that we work with in,
in, you know, everything from

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family constellations to past
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things that we work with in
these retreats that we can, some

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of it is facilitated by the, the
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me, we did, we've done more than
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been ayahuasca retreats.
My first ayahuasca was, was deep

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trauma healing from generations.
It was super deep and I, it was

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in this state where I could see
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I could feel the pain the
ancestors went through, not just

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the last few 100 years that even
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lineage, I was able to trace one
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William Wallace and I could, I
could feel generational trauma

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of wars and, and fighting and,
and challenges that literally we

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carry today.
So yes, it's a beautiful

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opportunity to be able to go
into this state of past life

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regression and be able to remove
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things that we're holding on to.
Today when when do you find

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having done this so far as much
as you have and this isn't meant

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to be derogatory towards
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There's a lot of people who are,
you know, seeking the magic and

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they're, they're really not
understanding that it's really

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that you have to do the work.
Like they want an ashram and all

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of a sudden everything's fine,
right?

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Yeah.
So that's a good question.

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What's what's catalyzes people
to take it seriously?

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of jumped ahead here, but first

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of all, to decide that it's
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because you have to be fertile
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thing.
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But besides that, when somebody
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do the work because you just
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Nothing's going to fix you, not
even, you know, they, whether

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it's breath work or meditation
or prayer, whether it's ketamine

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or, or, or or watchuma or, or
psychedelic or, or, you know,

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psilocybin or ayahuasca or even
things like iboga on the far

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end.
I mean, all of these different

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tools are there to, to create a
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you can then start working with.
But unless the, the, the one,

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the number one thing you have to
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You've got to want to change.
You've got to want to the things

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that are because we tell people
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Listen, if you have to come back
in another three or six months,

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we didn't do our job right.
We, you didn't do your job and

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actually doing the work because
the, the, the medicine, the

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psychedelic experience is not
going to fix anything by itself.

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What it's going to do is create
a window of opportunity.

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And in this window, you and the
facilitator together have this

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opportunity to be able to
reframe.

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Reframe how I'm talking to
myself because of my what

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happened with my ex.
Reframe how I feel about men

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because of what happened when I
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Reframe how I my addictions
because I don't love myself.

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Whatever it is, it creates this
beautiful window of opportunity.

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But you could just sit there and
look at the leaves and not do

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anything about it.
And really, it doesn't create

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significant change.
And it starts with having a

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clear intention.
We start with people a few weeks

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before they come now and we say,
I get on that on a Zoom call

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with them and say, OK, listen,
most people spend more time

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planning their next vacation
than they do planning their

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lives.
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So we're going to spend more
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They just want to show up there.
OK, I'm here.

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Fix me.
Yeah, exactly.

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So if you don't know where
you're going, you're going to

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get nowhere with amazing
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And and it comes, you know,
people will set these goals

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financially, but they'll never
set goals when it comes to a

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healthier relationship with
their spouse or being more

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present with their kids or
looking in the mirror and really

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loving deep down what they see.
These are all things that are

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really light, the foundation of
real true happiness, not another

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zero in your bank account.
And so so getting super clear as

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to two things, not just what you
want to embrace, but first of

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all, everything that you need to
release.

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What is it that I need to
release in order to step into

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that highest and best version of
me?

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Do I need to release how I talk
to myself on my on a daily, but

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do I need to release my negative
self talk my worry, my what if

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thinking my negative
expectations that the

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perceptions I have of myself or
other people?

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Do I need to release my how
quick I am to anger?

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Do I need to release that
addiction I have to alcohol or

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pornography or you know what,
whatever it is there there are

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different things that we all
individually need to say.

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OK, this is holding me back from
having that true intimate

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relationship with my my wife.
This is holding me back from

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really being able to, to, to be
the top performer at my at my

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occupation, whatever it is.
Identify everything that needs

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to be released and then
everything that you're going to

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make way for in terms of what
you want to embrace.

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What does that highest and best
version of me look like?

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And once you've identified that,
then there are plenty of

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different tools that you can use
to help get there.

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But planning on it being super
clear with your intention

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upfront is incredibly important.
And words are important too,

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like just the words.
I'm going to release what no

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longer serves me.
That mindset may heretofore not

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been anything people thought
about.

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Like, what do you mean by that?
Served me?

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This is about me, right?
And it has so many times, you

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know, there are people that that
literally gain value in their

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mind from being a victim and
telling everybody how horrible

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their life is.
And you know that that may have

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served you at one time, maybe
when you were a kid being a

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victim, got attention from your.
Mother whatever, yeah.

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Whatever it was, but it doesn't
serve you now.

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It's holding you into that same
mindset, you know, and maybe

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there was a time where where
pornography served you, and

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that's OK.
I don't judge that right?

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But if it's getting in the way
of a healthy intimate

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relationship with your spouse
now, then it no longer serves

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you, right.
Maybe there was a time where

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alcohol served you because life
was so difficult, you needed to

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yourself from it.
But it doesn't serve you today

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because you've moved beyond that
and you can release that.

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So that is so important to
recognize that the past version

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of you wasn't broken.
The past version of you just

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didn't have the tools that you
have today.

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The past version of you didn't
know what you didn't know.

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And so that's why you did those
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That's why you behaved that way.
And so you can not live in a

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state of shame and guilt and
remorse because that's defying

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you to that past version of you.
Instead, say, you know what?

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I'm going to release that.
I'm going to release that past

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version of me.
I'm going to step into who I

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really am meant to be, my divine
mission, my highest and best

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self.
What does that look like?

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There's actually a really good
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it's kind of like the Buddhist
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had, I think, a good way of
looking at things and when

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something was bothering were
you, you would put it out in

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front of you and re examine it
and then let it go, right?

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You didn't get it was, you know,
practice of non attachment,

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right?
Which is, you know, harder to do

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than talk about.
And the other thing that I

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found, I'm wondering if you're
finding the same thing.

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It's kind of like life and
business.

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It's a series of adjustments,
right?

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So you go into this with the
plan committed to some sort of

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expectation to accomplish
something in intention, as you

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call it.
And what I found is that it

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absolutely pays to do that.
But once I'm there, something

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else came up and then all of a
sudden I saw the problem I

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didn't even have knew I had that
freaking doesn't it?

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It really does, you know, and I,
I tell people listen, that that

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two weeks before I want you to
journal and write down and get

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super clear on that best version
of you and what you want to

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release.
But once you're actually here,

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once we're going into that
breathwork experience, once

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we're going into the meditation
experience or once we're going

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into the, the plant medicine
experience, Now it's time to

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release.
It's time to release and trust.

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You know, you can, if you're
religious, you can trust God.

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If you're not, you can trust,
love, trust yourself, whatever

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it is, walk into it with a place
of just openness and, and, and

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trust.
And in doing so, the experience

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will guide you, will guide you
into that best version.

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Because sometimes we're so close
to the problem.

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We don't see what we're doing
wrong.

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We, we literally are where we
can't see the forest through the

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trees.
We're so close.

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And so then it opens up.
It opens up that, that your

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neural pathways and you now
you're able to feel and see and

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recognize things that you didn't
before.

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I, for me, one of my first
experiences was the most

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beautiful, horrific experience
of my life.

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Horrific because what happened
to me, the facilitator was there

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was in this deep meditation.
We used some of the plant

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medicine I was in the beautiful
music was there, but then there

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was some, some, some meditation
music that was there that that

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took me into this place where I
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I felt in every cell of my body.
I felt the pain that my children

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felt when I cheated on their mom
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I was, I was, it was so painful.
It was so deep and hard.

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But then I also felt the joy of
the children that we had helped

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to rescue and return with their
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And it was so beautiful.
And then I then I felt the

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ripple effect of my actions that
the, the man who came to my

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party and and slept with a
cheerleader and broke up his

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marriage.
And now a year later, his

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daughter gets abused by the new
boyfriend or the OR the son gets

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addicted to drugs because there
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And and the ripple effect of the
fact that I was in that space

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and throwing that party with
them, it was so profound.

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It was so difficult, but it was
incredibly healing for me

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because I was able to see,
that's a previous version of

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you, Paul.
And you can leave it all behind.

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You can release it all, it
doesn't serve you anymore and

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you can step into this new path
that that does align with the

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highest version of yourself.
It's really interesting because

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you can if you're at a place
where you recognize

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intellectually that you can't
change the past, you can only

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change the future, like
intellectually you can.

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That makes like logical sense,
but again, it's easy to say and

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not easy to do.
And it's if you have the the the

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help of these modalities, it
just gives you permission and

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some level and also the
mechanism to 'cause that to

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happen is, is that make sense?
Well, and, and beyond that, you

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know, so many times we, you
know, depression comes from

449
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,480
regret of the past and anxiety
comes from worrying about the

450
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,440
future.
The thing that I have found so

451
00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,680
powerful for me, and whether
this is in meditation or in

452
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,720
breath work or in the plant
medicine experience, all three

453
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,920
of them helps me to get
completely into the present,

454
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:15,920
into the now, into the space
where where literally all of

455
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,320
eternity exists in this present
moment.

456
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:22,240
And instead of worrying about
the past or project or even

457
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,400
projecting about the future by
being fully, completely present,

458
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,640
present in my communication with
you right now where nothing else

459
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,840
exists outside of you and I
right here in this conversation.

460
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,680
Same thing being super present
with my wife.

461
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,880
Super present when I'm, you
know, when I'm, when I'm

462
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,880
praying, when I'm meditating,
super present when I'm creating

463
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:49,240
a meditation for other people,
whatever it is, if I can be 100%

464
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:54,480
present, that's, that is, is all
of eternity, that's all the

465
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,520
future, all the past that none
of them exist outside of this

466
00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:01,080
present moment.
And being able to get present in

467
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:06,320
in a meditation, get present in
in releasing all of that extra

468
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,720
puts everything into perspective
and brings in a degree of

469
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,200
happiness that can't happen when
we're living in the past or

470
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,960
living in the future.
And that, that is a muscle you

471
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,560
can build, right?
Absolutely.

472
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:25,000
I have found that through daily
meditation and let me let me

473
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,000
touch on this for the
Christians.

474
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:32,120
I, I have a very strong
Christian background and, and

475
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,080
for years I thought that prayer
and meditation were opposite

476
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,680
ends of the spectrum.
I, I came to realize that no,

477
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,960
they're, they're completing each
other.

478
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:45,200
For a lot of people, especially
for me, was very one sided.

479
00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,600
It was, I talk and never listen.
It was praise, praise, praise.

480
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,520
Sorry, sorry, sorry.
Fix fix.

481
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,720
Right.
Help, help, help, help.

482
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:54,960
Help.
Yeah, exactly.

483
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,720
And hang up the phone.
Can you imagine developing a

484
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,320
healthy relationship?
You know, if if you know, I was

485
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:01,720
told Vanessa, are you called up
Mary?

486
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,440
And just.
That's all you did is hey, Mary.

487
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,560
Wow, you're so beautiful.
You're amazing.

488
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,720
And hey, sorry, sorry.
I you know, I left a big mess in

489
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,920
the house when I left and help.
Can you can you fix this and

490
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,680
this and this and boom, you hang
up the phone and never receive

491
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,400
anything coming back.
That's not healthy.

492
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,360
And so, so many times prayer
works that way.

493
00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:23,320
And So what I teach is, is
teaching people how to how to

494
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:27,120
get into that space of prayer,
however that is for them, but

495
00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:32,800
then drop into a listening mode
of being able to turn off your

496
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:36,560
conscious mind, move into the
place of the heart and, and

497
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,400
through through breath and
through presence, be able to

498
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,080
receive.
I have another book that the one

499
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:45,920
that's coming after this one
that I've been working on for a

500
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,960
while called are you listening
with my hand on my heart?

501
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,040
Not are you listening here with
my ear, but are you listening at

502
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,760
heart?
Because all of us have the

503
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:57,160
ability to tune in and receive
and listen.

504
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:01,960
We just get too bogged down with
our daily life and all of the

505
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,520
crap that's going in our
conscious mind that we never

506
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,000
take time to tune in.
And it's not just not just

507
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,520
tuning into to God, it's
literally tuning into each other

508
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,720
as well.
It's, it's the energy of

509
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,600
everything.
It's listening to what is not

510
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,680
said in the body language, in
your communication with

511
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,040
somebody, listening to that,
that energetic connection you

512
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,400
have with your kids that you
know, wow, I need to give, I

513
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,040
need to give Jordan a call right
now.

514
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,560
Because there's something that's
what listening is about, is

515
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,080
tuning into that energy that is
everywhere with that, with the

516
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,680
spirit of of compassion and
presence.

517
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:43,360
It really is amazing once you
learn and build the muscle of

518
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,320
listening attentively.
It makes a huge difference in

519
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:52,080
your relationships because you
tend to habitually do

520
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,000
perfunctory things that just
because it's a familiar

521
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,760
situation, you don't take it
seriously, like relationships

522
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:05,360
with your wife or whatever.
And what what I found, and, and

523
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,040
I don't blame people for this
because it's a natural outgrowth

524
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:12,640
of being a good salesman is if
you're a good listener, then

525
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,280
you'll be a good salesman.
But oftentimes people stumble

526
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,880
early on in their salesmanship
careers and they're sitting on

527
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,120
the edge of their seat waiting
for the other person to shut up

528
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,040
so they can say the next thing
on their mind.

529
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,320
Like they're not even thinking
about what the other person's

530
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,120
saying, right?
Which is funny, I years ago when

531
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,120
I had my, my company that helped
people overcome anxiety,

532
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,880
depression, etcetera.
I had a call center.

533
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,240
We had about 200 employees and
we were, we were selling a

534
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,520
coaching program for the people
who had ordered this audio tape

535
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,000
and whatever.
And my team members when I, when

536
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,280
I had them on the phone, I said
listen, if you pitch coaching

537
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,600
within the 1st 5 minutes of your
call, you're fired.

538
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,760
You're fired, right?
Preferably it's 10 minutes into

539
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,560
the call.
You need to, you need to listen

540
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,960
and ask questions and listen to
really why they bought the

541
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,320
original program, what
challenges they're having.

542
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:13,840
And in that period of being a
good listener, then if it feels

543
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:19,320
right and is appropriate, offer
coaching as a solution based on

544
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,040
what you learned about them, not
the reason why you called.

545
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,760
And, and in doing so, they were
way more effective.

546
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:31,480
And, and it was, it was truly a
compassionate sale based on

547
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,200
really where they were coming
from, not based on, oh, I'm

548
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,480
calling you to try to get you to
buy this coaching program.

549
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,120
Yeah.
No, it's really, really sort of

550
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,080
sales one O 1, but people fail
at it.

551
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:48,760
What is the So I read a book a
friend of mine wrote called

552
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:54,960
Solve for Happy and he was a
engineer at Google and, you

553
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,520
know, really high up in the
company and he had a very bad

554
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:03,240
experience because his son died
at like 21 years old from a a

555
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,280
bad surgery.
But anyway, this book he was in

556
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,360
the middle of writing during
that time and finally published

557
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:11,800
it.
And one of the things that he

558
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:16,800
concluded in the book to help
people was that your mind is not

559
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,200
you.
You're the observer of your

560
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,240
mind.
So if you look at it that way

561
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,600
and all of a sudden you don't
have to do what your head tells

562
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,960
you to do, you can just look
like, if that doesn't make

563
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,440
sense, I'm moving on, right?
Exactly.

564
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:32,080
Does that make sense?
Exactly.

565
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,200
Yeah, we, yeah, we teach that a
lot as well.

566
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,880
And, and how when even when
you're, when we're teaching

567
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:42,000
meditation, when thoughts come,
instead of being the thought, be

568
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,600
the observer.
And I see it as a river and, and

569
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,680
that thought coming and going
and, you know, and even things

570
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,320
like emotion, I, I, you know,
don't, don't say I am angry.

571
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,400
No, say I'm, I'm, I'm
experiencing the emotion of

572
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,000
anger and, and disassociate from
that.

573
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,800
Instead of internalizing that
anger, you can see it as a third

574
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,440
party and saying, OK, well,
that's interesting.

575
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,600
That's interesting.
I'm wondering why, why feeling

576
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,440
triggered right now?
What is it about my wife's

577
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:18,080
actions that is is giving me
this feeling of being triggered?

578
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:21,360
Let's look at it as an as a
casual observer.

579
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,920
And then from there, I don't get
brought into this trigger

580
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,280
energy.
I can say, wow, that's

581
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,240
interesting.
I wonder where that's coming

582
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,720
from.
Let's let's look at this.

583
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,600
And then doing so flow
completely around getting

584
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,320
wrapped up into the ink.
So let's talk a little bit about

585
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,080
the the book.
When's it coming out?

586
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:42,680
The new one.
I am.

587
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:47,000
We're going to the My goal is to
have it out by May.

588
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:51,040
I'm speaking at a couple big
events in Texas and a Los

589
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:55,360
Angeles in May and I want to
have physical copies available.

590
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,560
Then I've sent it out to a few
people that have read through it

591
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,320
and we fine-tuned some things in
it.

592
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,760
I'm super excited about it.
This, this book is, I believe

593
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:08,639
it's, it's kind of the, I'm
calling it the, the road map of

594
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:12,560
business in the new age, in the,
in the age of peace.

595
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:15,360
You know, most, most religions
believe that we're going to go

596
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,719
through a time of turmoil and
then 1000 years of peace.

597
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,320
You know, they kind of got that
right, but God's not just going

598
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,440
to come back and wave his hand
and we're all going to be nice

599
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,040
to each other.
I believe we're going to see

600
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,800
that in our lifetime.
I I believe that we're in this

601
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,679
place of elevation of global
consciousness, this awakening

602
00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:39,920
that people are are tired of the
toxic energy that is created so

603
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,159
much division and hatred in our
world today.

604
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:47,880
There is there is opportunity
for infinite wealth, infinite

605
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:50,520
wealth for all of us.
And a case in point, I talked

606
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,760
about this in the book how
pretty much everybody you know,

607
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,000
it doesn't even matter if they
live in a one bedroom apartment.

608
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,320
They live like kings better than
kings of 1000 years ago.

609
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,840
If you've got carpet in your
house and your.

610
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,360
Apartment you've got to reach
fridge, the whole thing, yeah.

611
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,800
Exactly.
And the reason behind it is that

612
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:15,280
the creativity of the human mind
that is, that is compounding the

613
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,800
value in the world around us.
I, I use an example that I

614
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,600
learned from a friend of mine,
Paul Pilzer, that about 10 men

615
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,280
on an island.
And these ten men, every day

616
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,600
they, they go fishing for their
family and they come back and

617
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,200
they all day long fishing.
They barely have enough fish,

618
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,320
but they, they survive and it's
consistent.

619
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,560
Well then the human mind cut
comes into place and the

620
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,240
creativity of two of the women
on the island come up with this

621
00:35:41,240 --> 00:35:44,280
idea of a net and they sow this
net out of some of the reeds and

622
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,120
they give it to their husband
and they go out.

623
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:50,040
And now these two men with this
net from their wives, they're

624
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,600
able to catch enough fish in the
morning to feed the entire

625
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,880
island.
Now the problem becomes 80%

626
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,600
unemployment and a dysfunctional
system.

627
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:05,480
They would vote in a government
that would tax those two men 80%

628
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,760
of their fish while everybody
else sat around the well

629
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:11,560
functioning, exactly a well
functioning society.

630
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,000
One of those men would get
better at building boats.

631
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,600
When we get better at building
huts, when we get better at

632
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,480
educating the children, One
would get better at growing

633
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,160
herbs and new.
Whatever it is, the lifestyle as

634
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,160
a whole increases for the entire
island because of that

635
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:29,040
creativity and the fact that the
system was working in a way that

636
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,680
was creating a true win, win,
win.

637
00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:35,280
And the challenge begins if we
see the world from a lens of

638
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:39,240
scarcity, if we see the world in
a dog eat dog type of energy

639
00:36:39,240 --> 00:36:43,440
where the only way that I can
make $10 million or $100 million

640
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:47,880
is if $100 million is taken from
the pockets of those who need it

641
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,560
or those other people that might
could use it.

642
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:53,800
And so it's, it's this mindset
of, of a scarcity that is, that

643
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,000
is creating so many of the
challenges we have today.

644
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:01,720
The truth is we we live in a
world of of a true abundance.

645
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:05,560
There's enough for our resources
where every single person could

646
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,560
have all the food we could ever
eat, all the cars we could ever

647
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,400
drive, all the clothes we could
ever wear.

648
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:15,760
The problem is, is that in most
economics books, the definition

649
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,680
that we were taught of economics
is the division of scarce

650
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,320
resources, which is a fallacy.
There's not scarce resources.

651
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,480
There's enough for everybody.
It's just them matter of

652
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:31,040
changing our relationship with
money and being in line with

653
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,360
with the divine expansion of the
universe.

654
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,200
The universe as a whole is
literally expanding with new

655
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,680
Suns and new stars and new
earths and new everything faster

656
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,920
than we can count, faster than
we can imagine.

657
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,600
Everything is in this this
creative expansion state.

658
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,080
Yes there are black holes that
take things and pull them in,

659
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:55,720
but the ever expanding version
of the universe is 1 Where we

660
00:37:55,720 --> 00:37:57,600
can incorporate that in our
lives.

661
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,440
And we can see it already with
the fact that we all live the

662
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,080
kings today.
And as we continue in that

663
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,680
progress, there is availability
for infinite wealth for everyone

664
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:12,320
and the ability to create a true
value for value, a win, win,

665
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,720
win, just by changing our
mindset about money.

666
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:20,600
Yeah, I really like that.
In fact, it took me till about

667
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,400
the age of 30 to decide to live
with abundance even though I

668
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,240
didn't have it.
But it was a just a, a mindset

669
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,160
and it changes everything when
you look at it that way.

670
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,800
I refuse to to live in the
spirit of lack because lack

671
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,600
begots lack, right?
I mean, we just, we know that

672
00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:43,600
and it's really interesting.
You know, what we were talking a

673
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:48,480
little bit about earlier is that
call it what you want, the

674
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,560
divine God, whatever, it does it
for you, right?

675
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,240
Meaning with what faith you
have.

676
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,840
But I've noticed it regularly
gets produces good results and

677
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,400
gets better and better all the
time.

678
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:03,080
And just the footnote that you
know this, but I've been doing

679
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,080
Transcendental Meditation since
I was 17 and I didn't really

680
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,320
know it was a secret weapon till
I was 25, right?

681
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:15,000
And so, you know, that form of,
you know, being present has

682
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,400
helped me immensely in many,
many ways.

683
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:23,280
But if you, if you listen to the
universe and build that muscle,

684
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,000
your intuition, let's just say
that's what it is, gets better,

685
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,560
better and better.
And then every time you listen

686
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,640
to it, it further validates that
shit.

687
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,240
I should have listened to it
again, right?

688
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:39,520
Isn't it wild, right?
Yes, in fact, I, I talk about in

689
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,440
my are you listening book, I
talk about in leading the

690
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,920
undercover child rescue missions
many times I wasn't following

691
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,440
logic and protocol.
We, we were being led and, and

692
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:53,320
tuning in.
I, I just and, and I'll, I'll

693
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,840
throw this out there.
I, I remember one of my

694
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,920
missions, it was in Haiti.
Now Port-au-Prince, Haiti is the

695
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,880
most dangerous city on the
planet right now and it's been

696
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,480
dangerous for a long time.
I did 12 undercover child rescue

697
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,560
missions.
In Port-au-Prince, Haiti and the

698
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:13,640
surrounding areas and, and, and
I remember 1 where I had a new

699
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,600
team.
These guys were, you know, some

700
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:19,120
big Navy SEAL green Beret guys
and they built and tattoos and,

701
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,440
you know, and it was about two
in the morning.

702
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,960
We hadn't connected with any
traffickers.

703
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,240
And I said, guys, can I take
lead?

704
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,680
Are you good with that?
And they're like, yeah, yeah,

705
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,080
they say you're really good at
this.

706
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,840
I want to see what you do.
I said, OK, you need to follow

707
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:35,520
exactly what I say.
I said First things first.

708
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,240
I need you to understand that I,
I believe in God.

709
00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:40,640
Most people believe in a supreme
being, whether they call it the

710
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,000
universe or a Heavenly Father,
whatever it doesn't.

711
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,920
Happen there's.
There's a higher power that that

712
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,120
is very interested in US doing
good, I said.

713
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:54,240
In that higher power cares more
about these children than you

714
00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:57,640
and I ever could and knows
exactly where they are.

715
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,120
So if you're OK with it, or even
if you're not, I'm going to

716
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,040
start out by tuning in and
asking for some help.

717
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,680
So here we are, downtown
Port-au-Prince, the darkest,

718
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,440
most voodoo infested place on
the Western Hemisphere.

719
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,920
And we take up our hats and and
do a quick prayer meditation

720
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,080
space.
And then I said, guys, now I

721
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:18,560
need you to understand how I see
fear and faith.

722
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,120
I said most people think that
faith is going to church and

723
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,800
asking God to fix things in
their life that they don't

724
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,240
believe are going to be fixed.
That's not faith, that's blind

725
00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:29,400
hope.
I said faith, It's a universal

726
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:30,840
law.
It's one of the most next to

727
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,120
unconditional love.
It's the most powerful law in

728
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,160
the universe.
And it's simply this.

729
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,680
It's the unwavering conviction
that what I want to have happen.

730
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,760
The problem is, is that most
people have a hard time with

731
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,720
unwavering conviction about
anything.

732
00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:47,360
Should I marry this woman?
Should I move to this new job?

733
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:48,880
They are.
Always catching, right?

734
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:51,080
Yeah, exactly.
It's because they don't know if

735
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,280
it's in line with what their God
wants.

736
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,320
For me, I told these guys, I
don't care if you think that God

737
00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:00,600
is a man or a woman or a tree or
a universe or a cloud, There's

738
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,160
not a virtuous creator of the
universe anywhere.

739
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,400
That's OK with an 8 year old
being raped.

740
00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:09,960
Period.
So it was easy for me to have

741
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:14,280
unwaved conviction, unwavering
faith that we're going to find

742
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:17,160
them.
And so just tuning into that was

743
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,920
what allowed us to take down the
largest child trafficking ring

744
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,720
in the Caribbean, which took
down 4 corrupt federal judges,

745
00:42:25,720 --> 00:42:28,400
all from what happened that very
night.

746
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,560
And tuning in and connecting
with the right people.

747
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:36,840
And so it's a beautiful way that
that you can you can receive

748
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,920
guidance and everything you do
in your life.

749
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,400
I have I talked about this in
the book as well, a touch on

750
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:45,520
it's a beautiful story.
My early 20s, I met a man by the

751
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:49,000
name of Jerry Prine.
Now Jerry, he had never

752
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,040
graduated from elementary
school.

753
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,520
He he couldn't even read or
write barely on a third grade

754
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:58,080
level, if that yet he was tested
at the University of Utah as the

755
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,000
highest IQ they had ever tested
at the time, one of the highest

756
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:06,120
in the world.
He was the inventor of, of a 300

757
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:09,640
different, different inventions,
a whole bunch of life saving

758
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,960
medical devices.
The original software that, that

759
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,600
Siri, that voice recognition
came from the original software

760
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,440
that IBM used to, to create that
in the beginning.

761
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,680
He created it and he couldn't
read or write.

762
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:26,920
And I, I went to lunch with him
and he, we sat down and he said,

763
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,240
Paul, he said, you could have an
IQ over 200 if you wanted.

764
00:43:32,240 --> 00:43:34,560
And I said, no, I I'm really not
that smart.

765
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,480
You know, I I worked really hard
for my grades.

766
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,200
I didn't even get a scholarship.
And I said, and I don't think

767
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,320
you can change your IQ.
That's kind of something you're

768
00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:43,800
just kind of stuck with, right?
He goes, no, he says, you can

769
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,080
change it.
He said, tell me this.

770
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,840
He said, do you think that I'm
the inventor of those medical

771
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,680
devices?
I said, well, you have the

772
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,440
patents, right?
He goes, yeah, I do.

773
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,080
I said, you're not the inventor.
He goes, no, I said, you stole

774
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:57,640
them.
He says, well, kind of.

775
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,640
He said, he said, how long has
the universe been around?

776
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:07,480
I said, well, millions of years.
He said billions upon billions

777
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,960
of years.
He said those medical devices

778
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,800
were invented billions of years
ago.

779
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,360
I was a better listener than
you.

780
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:18,640
And he put his hand on his
heart.

781
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,080
I said what?
He said that the difference

782
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,160
between me and you is that I'm a
better listener.

783
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,240
I said you better listener with
my ear.

784
00:44:25,240 --> 00:44:28,000
He goes, no, a better listener.
And he put his hand on his fart,

785
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,400
he said.
He said so many musical works of

786
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:36,280
art were written no perfect the
first time, because the

787
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,360
composers were able to tune in
to the infinite knowledge that's

788
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,040
available to all of us.
He said you can call it whatever

789
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,320
you want.
When you start tuning into that

790
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,920
intuition, when you start
quieting your mind in a

791
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,280
Transcendental Meditation or a
deep personal meditation,

792
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,480
whatever it is, you can get to
this place where you can receive

793
00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:00,520
far beyond what's available to
your conscious and even your

794
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,400
subconscious mind, tapping into
this super conscious energy that

795
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,800
is available to all of us.
And so when you heard that at

796
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:13,560
your age, did you believe it?
Did you?

797
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:15,840
Did you?
Here's what I did.

798
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:16,240
What?
Do you do?

799
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:20,000
Wouldn't it right?
Yes, IA big part of building

800
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,560
bridge to billions came from
that.

801
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,680
I what I did is I started
exercising it like a muscle

802
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,640
right.
The more I exercise, the better

803
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,120
it was.
And so I got to the point where

804
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,200
if I failed, if something came
into my heart that said, boom,

805
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,240
you need to call Dick Marriott.
I don't, I don't care if it's

806
00:45:39,240 --> 00:45:42,320
7:00 AM.
If it hit me, I would call him.

807
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,040
I would text him whatever else,
because I don't know.

808
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,120
I don't know.
Even if I didn't get an answer,

809
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,000
maybe that was exactly the right
time that he needed to see a

810
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,280
call from.
I have to tell you, I do that

811
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:56,280
all the time and I catch myself
ignoring it sometimes and it's a

812
00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:00,160
big mistake.
Like I get up in the middle of

813
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,640
the night because I have a
thought and I just do it.

814
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,560
Like I also try to be mindful of
my time.

815
00:46:05,720 --> 00:46:08,680
So if I think of something and I
don't think it's going to be

816
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,080
productive right now, then I
don't do it.

817
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:12,840
And so I'm, I hedge a little
bit.

818
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,600
But for the most part, every
time when something comes to my

819
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:19,760
mind and I'm the most
disorganized person, you know, I

820
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,120
let everybody else take care of
the organization stuff.

821
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:26,080
Because if I if I did the
organization stuff, I wouldn't

822
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:30,920
have time for anything else.
So I'm just validating your like

823
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:33,120
when something comes to mind, I
don't question.

824
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:37,600
I just say, OK, someone just
said in my head to contact this

825
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,280
person and connect that dot for
some reason, I might not even

826
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,480
know what it is, right, Exactly.
Isn't that why it's?

827
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:46,920
So beautiful.
It's so beautiful.

828
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:52,240
And it's it's, it works it here.
Here's the thing, though, it

829
00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:54,440
goes right back to we were
talking earlier about having an

830
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:58,280
intention coming into a retreat.
If you don't know where you're

831
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:02,280
going, then the universe has no
idea where to direct you.

832
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:07,000
You have to decide what it is
you want first to receive that

833
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,520
divine connection from God, from
the universe, from the energy of

834
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,280
other people.
But once you decide I want to I

835
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,360
want to be a cent a millionaire.
That's what I want.

836
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,040
I want a billion dollars in my
bank or I want I want a healthy

837
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,680
relationship, whatever it is.
If you can really put your mind

838
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,920
and your heart to it and put
that out there and see it and

839
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:30,040
focus on it, then is what will
happen is that things will start

840
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,560
conspiring in your favor all of
a sudden.

841
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,000
Boom.
The right person that that that

842
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:38,040
would come into play.
That that was a one in a billion

843
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,360
chance that you would meet that
person at that time.

844
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,240
It came in because you decided
where you wanted to go and then

845
00:47:44,240 --> 00:47:47,680
you tuned in and and started
listening to the direction that

846
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:53,960
would help guide you to it.
And you know, I'm 100% in

847
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:58,480
agreement, not because of woo
woo, right?

848
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:03,800
Because I've seen it happen like
it delivers every time without

849
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,960
fail.
It just it, it's crazy.

850
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:07,720
Right.
It's it's a it's a secret.

851
00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:10,640
I literally in your infinite
wealth, the one that's coming

852
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:14,480
out soon.
Chapter 4 is on meditation and I

853
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:19,200
starts out with why would I have
an entire chapter on meditation

854
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,840
on a business and financial
book?

855
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:25,280
Well, it's because it's a secret
weapon that so many people

856
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:29,200
disregard is not part of of
their business practice.

857
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:33,880
But if you could Co create with
a power infinitely more

858
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:38,160
knowledgeable and powerful than
you, wouldn't that process be so

859
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:39,320
much easier?
Yeah.

860
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,000
And, you know, the Buddhists
also had a good, good way of

861
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:48,680
looking at these things.
The your Buddhist monk suggested

862
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:53,600
that you meditate.
They would smartly say try it.

863
00:48:53,720 --> 00:48:55,400
You know, like I go back to the
other way.

864
00:48:56,240 --> 00:48:59,840
You're right, so they will
likely you have to commit.

865
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,680
Just give it a try, see what
happens.

866
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:02,960
Give it a try.
Exactly.

867
00:49:03,160 --> 00:49:06,400
I tell, I tell people I said,
you know, if you got plenty of

868
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,960
time in your day then and you're
super flexible, not a lot going

869
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,680
on, I, I would suggest that you
meditate at least 1/2 an hour.

870
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,800
Now, if you're going to be super
busy with a whole bunch going

871
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,720
on, then you should meditate for
an hour, right?

872
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,840
Because, because you need that
clear direction on everything

873
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:28,200
that's happening.
And, and so it's a, it's a super

874
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:32,320
valuable tool to just turn off
your conscious mind, get into

875
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,240
that place of the heart, focus
on your breath.

876
00:49:35,240 --> 00:49:38,480
And I have some, some
meditations that are available

877
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:40,640
on there's a program called
insight timer.

878
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,120
There's, there's some, there, we
have some that we, we posted on,

879
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,760
on the liberating humanity
YouTube page, etcetera.

880
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,160
Some beautiful tools that people
can use to.

881
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,480
I've got some couples ones that
we use our couples retreats that

882
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,840
are helping couples get super
present with each other in a

883
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:03,240
heart coherence and and eye
gazing and ICU type of

884
00:50:03,240 --> 00:50:07,720
meditations that are beautiful,
powerful and very effective at

885
00:50:07,720 --> 00:50:12,720
at bringing couples together.
Yeah, I, I want to talk about

886
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,600
Epstein for a minute just
because I think that you'll

887
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:21,200
have, based on what you've done,
have some interesting insights

888
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:25,520
that aren't just sort of, you
know, network news crap.

889
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:30,400
And the only thing I'll mention
also is you Mary's got some

890
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:35,840
powerful skills, as you well
know, in, in not only tuning

891
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:40,440
into stuff, but helped me
recognize what was it the human

892
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,440
design component like that's
been super helpful to us.

893
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,920
And that I always ran through
walls to get things done and

894
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:51,680
connect the dots, right.
And so doing that helped me

895
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,640
realize that my makeup is a
manifest generator.

896
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:59,360
Well, putting words to it was
super helpful because then when

897
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,880
I looked at it, it said, OK,
this and it was like somebody

898
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,360
wrote me an editorial about me,
right?

899
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:11,080
And so so I think there's
numerous ways to basically

900
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,760
execute on your intentions and
make it stick.

901
00:51:14,720 --> 00:51:18,080
We should also explore having
her we have, we have people

902
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,720
similar to her with those gifts
that help with our our retreats

903
00:51:21,720 --> 00:51:23,280
as follow-ups with people,
etcetera.

904
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,160
And the human design stuff is
beautiful.

905
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:27,160
So we've seen it many, many
times.

906
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,640
And just helping people
understand themselves in a way

907
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:35,320
that they never did before.
So yeah, touch, touch on

908
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,280
Epstein.
Yeah, let's do it.

909
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:40,640
You go for a whole other hour on
that, but we'll we'll keep it.

910
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,600
We'll keep the high level here
since we're almost out an hour.

911
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:50,680
The you know, what frustrates me
is that literally just a couple

912
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:54,880
months ago we had, we had people
in our administration that were

913
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:56,080
saying, yeah, there's nothing
here.

914
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:57,640
There's, there's literally
nothing here.

915
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,720
Oh, then they produce 3,000,000
pages of nothing here.

916
00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:03,960
Now, now I I am.
Don't get me wrong, I have been

917
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:08,880
a Trump supporter for ever since
he was in office around years

918
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,040
ago.
I was literally there on

919
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,520
election night in 2016 together
with the Trump family.

920
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:19,760
But I was really just
disappointed at the whole phrase

921
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,360
a few months ago.
Oh, Epstein, We still talking

922
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,160
about that guy?
Yeah, we are.

923
00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:28,880
Yeah, we are because we demand
full transparency.

924
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,080
And they thought that they
redacted enough stuff where we

925
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,000
wouldn't see through it.
But you know, we've got a lot of

926
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,240
smart people that are digging,
digging through those 3,000,000

927
00:52:38,240 --> 00:52:41,360
pages and they're finding stuff.
They're finding a lot.

928
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:45,840
And and what what's incredibly
frustrating is how much

929
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:50,480
redaction we had of the
perpetrators, yet they victims,

930
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,520
they literally published entire
pages of all the victims that

931
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:55,440
were there.
And presumably it was the other

932
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:56,520
way around.
Going to be the other way

933
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:58,720
around.
Exactly, exactly.

934
00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:02,440
And so, so it's going to get
deeper, more and more people are

935
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,480
going to come out as, as people
that were involved.

936
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:10,600
It's darker than we even can
imagine.

937
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:17,280
When I say darker, this isn't
not to, not to, not to discredit

938
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:23,040
the, the, the wrongful nature of
being with a, a 17 year old,

939
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,600
that's wrong too.
Absolutely.

940
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,520
You should be, you know, put in
jail for that.

941
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:32,920
We're talking little kids.
We're talking, we're talking

942
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,760
satanic rituals.
We're we're talking some things

943
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:40,360
that are just too dark to even
talk about on any kind of social

944
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:44,760
media channel that as we
continue to uncover how dark

945
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:52,640
this is and how many high power
figures were very involved in

946
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,240
some of this stuff.
It's going to appall us.

947
00:53:55,240 --> 00:54:00,120
And we're going to be we're
going to want to overturn who is

948
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,440
involved in whatever
institutions, whatever

949
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:07,280
government positions.
We as humanity cannot sit back

950
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:12,360
and quietly accept that these
things are going, that nobody

951
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,480
has been arrested.
We can't there.

952
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,840
There's been way too much here.
And personally, I don't know

953
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,320
that Jeffrey Epstein didn't
commit suicide for sure, but

954
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:25,360
whether he was taken out by
somebody else or whether he is

955
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:31,080
still alive, there's significant
evidence that that that he he

956
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,120
may be, he may be still alive.
That, you know, you can go down

957
00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:37,080
some of those rabbit holes as
well and start doing some

958
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,840
research on that.
But we've we've seen, seen this

959
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:43,800
first half in, in second and
third world countries, but that

960
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,920
the truth is it is prevalent.
It is prevalent in Hollywood, is

961
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:52,560
prevalent in big in big
government, and it's both sides

962
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,960
of the aisle.
You know, sadly, when our movie

963
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,600
when Sound of Freedom came out,
there was a lot of the people

964
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:00,680
that thought that it was just a
right wing conspiracy type of a

965
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:02,920
thing.
You know, we've got Jim Caviezel

966
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,320
speaking at the QN and stuff.
And so all of the left said,

967
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,800
well, you know, it does.
That's why it doesn't really

968
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,640
happen.
And you know, and we had guys

969
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,920
that were part of our, our
production team that truly

970
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:18,000
believed that if you voted
Democrat, you were probably a

971
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,280
pedophile.
And I told him, listen, we've

972
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,920
arrested just as many people on
both sides of the aisle.

973
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,480
This isn't, this is not a right
or left issue.

974
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,880
We should all, we should all
come together on.

975
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:34,080
Extreme positions on either side
are usually to be dismissed.

976
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:36,640
Right.
When you get attached to an

977
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:41,160
ideology independent of what's
going on and critical thinking,

978
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:45,360
then it's probably, you know,
not worthy of even considering.

979
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:48,480
So just like in your example,
just just because someone's a

980
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,600
Democrat doesn't mean they're a
pedophile or they're a bad

981
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,040
person or they're complete Lib
tarts.

982
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:57,800
It doesn't mean that, right?
It's it's really like it's

983
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:02,120
starting to happen.
You got Prince Andrew, you've

984
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,040
got Larry Summers.
Whether they'll actually end up

985
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:08,560
going to jail have been really
interesting to see.

986
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:12,120
Mike Benz if he's heard of
listen to any his stuff.

987
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:14,720
No, I haven't listened to Mike.
I'll have to jump on.

988
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:18,720
Yeah.
So he's he's thorough

989
00:56:18,720 --> 00:56:22,040
investigation and I don't know
how credible his opinions are,

990
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:26,840
but they sound he's been lauded
as a credible, you know,

991
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,880
independent resource to evaluate
and he's gone through all the

992
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:36,080
pages to some extent, I believe.
But what what he was arguing is

993
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:40,000
that yes, these horrific things
went on and that some of it,

994
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:45,560
aside from the ones that we know
were pedophilia happened because

995
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:49,160
people in other parts of the
world where pedophilia is not an

996
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,640
issue he was doing business
with.

997
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:55,240
And so he was serving up the
young girls to them.

998
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:59,760
And that that was sort of a
pass, right?

999
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:02,440
And he wasn't saying that it's
good or bad.

1000
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:06,040
He was just saying that that
that's, that was part of what

1001
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:08,960
was happening there and he was
doing all the bad shit where it

1002
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,960
is wrong, right.
It's illegal and pedophilia.

1003
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:16,960
And you know, in, in my mind, no
matter how what part of the

1004
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:21,040
world you're in, it's wrong.
But that that's not, I can't

1005
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,080
make the rules in other parts of
the world.

1006
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:27,120
But the other thing was that he
was being protected simply

1007
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:32,400
because he was involved in a lot
of nefarious financial stuff.

1008
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:39,760
That is often where the CIA is
using people like him to pay off

1009
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,920
and launder money, and so he was
being protected on some level

1010
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,040
that way.
Yeah, yeah.

1011
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:49,720
And there there's significant
evidence that I truly believe he

1012
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:53,640
was an intelligent asset or is
still and as and that

1013
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:57,280
intelligent asset isn't
necessarily just domestic, you

1014
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:01,560
know, they're foreign
connections with with foreign

1015
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,680
governments.
Now, just because I I say that

1016
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,600
there's a strong chance that he
was he was tied in with the

1017
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,160
Mossad doesn't make me
anti-Semitic anyway.

1018
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,120
I've got wonderful friends that
are Jewish.

1019
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,360
You know they can't be.
Semitic at all.

1020
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:18,960
It just exactly told me that he
was inoperative in another CIA

1021
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:20,520
type thing in Israel.
That's all.

1022
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,800
That's all.
Exactly, exactly.

1023
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,920
But you know, there's there's
significant evidence of that as

1024
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:28,640
well.
And and here's the thing, I'll

1025
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:32,400
I'll leave, leave with this,
that if you wanted, and this has

1026
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:36,120
been in the CIA's book of dirty
tricks for decades.

1027
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:42,120
If you want complete control of
a senator, of a congressman, of

1028
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:47,000
a federal judge, you want
complete control forever or even

1029
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,440
of a billionaire, right, You
want control of them forever.

1030
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:52,640
You get them on film with a 12
year old and that's, that's,

1031
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,440
that's a level.
Back in the day, they could.

1032
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:59,040
They could get you in a in a
homosexual type of a thing and

1033
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:00,440
they could.
Control it with that, yeah.

1034
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:02,400
Yeah.
But now, now that doesn't work.

1035
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:05,320
Now everybody's like, yeah,
that's not a big deal, but but

1036
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:08,200
doing that to a child now,
that's the leverage that they

1037
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,880
need.
And so sadly, when you work in

1038
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:14,720
the world of blackmail, which a
lot of these agencies do,

1039
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:19,600
there's, there's a certain level
of blackmail you have to have on

1040
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:21,680
people to, to have that level of
control.

1041
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,040
And, and sadly, that's that's
what was going on.

1042
00:59:24,680 --> 00:59:28,200
And you said this, actually, I
don't know whether it was a

1043
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:32,680
message to me or a post, but
once you release the evidence

1044
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,800
that you have for the leverage
of the blackmail, it becomes

1045
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:38,920
useless.
Yeah, absolutely, which is which

1046
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:43,480
is why we will never see all of
the evidence on the on the P

1047
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,680
Diddy one.
That was why we'll never see all

1048
00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:49,320
the evidence that they that they
collected with with Epstein.

1049
00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:53,120
Because you know, if, if all of
a sudden that's all out there

1050
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:57,080
and then we vote out or all of
the, the, the senators or

1051
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,840
congressmen that were involved,
if those guys all of a sudden

1052
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:03,960
get taken and and thrown in
jail, now they have to corrupt a

1053
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,720
whole new group in.
Order.

1054
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:07,400
To control them.
Yeah.

1055
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,760
So yeah.
It's crazy.

1056
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:15,000
Well, on some level it's good
that a lot of this has been

1057
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:20,000
released and another way it
brings to light really, really

1058
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:24,240
dark shit that sometimes I wish
I could not know.

1059
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:28,160
But at the same time, you know,
the only thing required for evil

1060
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,840
to flourish is for good men to
do nothing.

1061
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:34,560
And by not knowing, then we
justify doing nothing.

1062
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:38,320
And so for me, you know, I had
no idea how bad child

1063
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,560
trafficking was until I saw it
first hand.

1064
01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:44,240
And when I thought it literally
face to face with traffickers

1065
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:47,080
selling children and face to
face with the children

1066
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:52,000
themselves, it it it wokes
something up inside me that just

1067
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:56,600
said I will dedicate my life to
eradicating this evil from the

1068
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,440
face of the earth.
Yeah, and, and people can see

1069
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,760
the movie and a lot of people
out here, I'm sure have saw the,

1070
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:04,920
you know, it was really
interesting when we saw the

1071
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:08,760
premiere of Miami with you.
It took another year and a half

1072
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,760
to for Hollywood to release the
grips, remember?

1073
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,240
Yeah, they were afraid.
They were afraid.

1074
01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:17,640
They didn't want people to be
having these conversations

1075
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:21,760
openly because they they knew it
would eventually uncover their

1076
01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:24,120
own darkness.
Yeah, yeah, it's really sad.

1077
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,920
Well, Paul, this has been
awesome as usual, so.

1078
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:32,360
Arthur, I absolutely love and
respect you for the man that you

1079
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,400
are, for the audience you've
created, for the family that you

1080
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:39,000
have, for beautiful relationship
that you have, and for

1081
01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:42,760
especially for our friendship.
And I'm incredibly grateful for

1082
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:44,600
that.
And so thank you for trusting me

1083
01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,640
with this time, with you and
with your audience.

1084
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:51,160
And grateful.
Yeah, it's my pleasure and and

1085
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:52,680
love you guys.
Miss you.

1086
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,640
We're going to see you soon and
we're going to do this again

1087
01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:57,360
when the book comes out.
That's OK with you.

1088
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,120
That would love that would love
that I will.

1089
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,880
I will send you one of the first
copies.

1090
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:04,840
That'll be awesome.
You'll sign it.

1091
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:06,680
I'm going to say goodbye to
everybody.

1092
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,120
Thanks for doing doing this and
thanks for being with us.

1093
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:11,240
This hang on one second, Paul.
OK.

1094
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:12,200
Thank you, everybody.