rHatchery.Live is a video podcast where we meet and talk with people who have realized that we can't continue on the path we are in and are taking action to create a sustainable future for people.

During these live interviews, leaders and experts from a wide myriad of backgrounds and spaces will explore the radical way to conduct business, to elicit change and to question the corporate status quo.

The show was created by Matt Perez and Jose Leal, co-authors of the book Radical Companies - Without Bosses or Employees.

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Recent Episodes

How to Seize the Means of Computation

Sept. 26, 2023

During this recent episode of hosts  and  synched up with Author, Activist, and Journalist , to answer the question of what is stopping us from building digital alternatives - and how to change this.

Self-Organization at Scale

Sept. 14, 2023

In this week's episode of rHatchery.live, host Jose Leal sat down with economist, interaction designer, educator, and electronic musician Sanjay Fernandes, Founder of SOLE Colombia, to find out if there's a way to regulate w…

Building a Healthy, High-Performing Organization

Sept. 1, 2023

Recently on Tech Leaders Unplugged, hosts Matt Perez and Jose Leal enjoyed a sit down with Greg Harmeyer, CEO of TiER1 Impact, to explore the many reasons why a better business implies a better world. Greg is passionate abo…

Reclaiming Verbal Agility

Aug. 30, 2023

We have been programmed to speak an industrial-age language, unintentionally perpetuating a coercive leadership structure. We need to recognize the industrial age patterns and deliberately choose our speech. There are 6 b…

Empowering Life and Work Through Radical Learning

Aug. 21, 2023

How can education's potential be harnessed to shape individuals, careers, and even the world? Let's find out during the  interview that hosts  and  conducted on August 16th with , Initiator of the , Founder of ,...

Management's Trifecta in Empowered Organizations

Aug. 9, 2023

Join host Matt Perez for the conversation last week with Peter Green, Co-founder of Humanizing Work, about the three jobs of management for empowered organizations: creating clarity, increasing capability, and improving the …

Recent Blog Posts

The Potential of Agile Transformation

Welcome to an exploration of the impact of Agile transformation on the professional landscape, as seen by Rohit Bagul, from the India-based Casepoint, a legal discovery platform for litigation, investigations, and compliance. Rohit is convince…

Jenifer Johnson: Crafting a Narrative

We had talked with Jenifer Johnson before, but now we got to talk with her in the rHatchery.live podcast. It was mind-blowing, a term I don’t use often. People Are Narratives People understand stories, we are particularly attuned to them. Fo…

Fernanda Guerra: Conscious Contracts

Fernanda Guerra is one of those people that recognize a good thing when they see it. She saw the good in Kim Wright’s Conscious Contracts© and went for it. Fernanda is a lawyer but she knew that the rule of law wasn’t doing the job…

About the Hosts

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Jose Leal


I started several businesses while I was in my late teens and rode the Internet wave, reaching that entrepreneurial dream—the successful exit.

I’ve spent the last several years researching and studying what makes us human and what prompts us to certain actions and choices. Our vision is a future where the traditional FIAT hierarchy no longer grinds people into submission but rather the new realities of co-management and co-ownership give people and organizations the opportunity to flourish.

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Matt Perez


Matt Perez has spent 40+ years in technology. His work life has been bookended by Sun Microsystems at one end and Nearsoft at the other. The experiences he's had along the way, good and bad, underpin the alternative to Fiat concept.

Over time Matt got off the treadmill and by the time Roberto Martinez and him started Nearsoft in 2007 he was a very different person.