rHatchery.Live is a video podcast where we meet and talk with people who have realized that we can't continue on the path we are in and are taking action to create a sustainable future for people.

During these live interviews, leaders and experts from a wide myriad of backgrounds and spaces will explore the radical way to conduct business, to elicit change and to question the corporate status quo.

The show was created by Matt Perez and Jose Leal, co-authors of the book Radical Companies - Without Bosses or Employees.

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Recent Episodes

Supporting Human Adaptability

Nov. 30, 2023

Are we actively repressing the human ability to adapt? Discover the answer to this question during the conversation that hosts Matt Perez and Jose Leal had with facilitator, speaker, and author Dawna Jones on rHatchery. List…

Mastering Leadership

Nov. 10, 2023

In this sit-down that  and  had with , CEO and Founder of , they explored the secrets to driving meaningful change, embracing innovation, and creating a lasting impact. Valentina, a transformational expert, shared her valua…

Facing Ourselves

Oct. 29, 2023

When it comes to organizational change, the most significant aspects of it take place at the lowest level: the individual. And Timothy Kaczynski, Agile and DevOps Warlock, and Founder of OxtailLabs, explained the reasons why…

TrustCrafters: Uncovering the Alchemy of Trust

Oct. 29, 2023

What role do trust and safety play in forging agile teams across organizations? This was the center of discussion this week on rHatchery, during the lively sit-down that hosts Jose Leal and Matt Perez had with Patrick Hill, …

Work the System with the BetaCodex

Oct. 19, 2023

Is there a way to help companies make 'organizational music'? Let's find out in the recent episode of rHatchery, during the conversation that hosts Jose Leal and had Guillermo Espinola with Rijon Erickson, Founder and Princi…

How to Seize the Means of Computation

Sept. 26, 2023

During this recent episode of hosts  and  synched up with Author, Activist, and Journalist , to answer the question of what is stopping us from building digital alternatives - and how to change this.

Recent Blog Posts

The Potential of Agile Transformation

Welcome to an exploration of the impact of Agile transformation on the professional landscape, as seen by Rohit Bagul, from the India-based Casepoint, a legal discovery platform for litigation, investigations, and compliance. Rohit is convince…

Jenifer Johnson: Crafting a Narrative

We had talked with Jenifer Johnson before, but now we got to talk with her in the rHatchery.live podcast. It was mind-blowing, a term I don’t use often. People Are Narratives People understand stories, we are particularly attuned to them. Fo…

Fernanda Guerra: Conscious Contracts

Fernanda Guerra is one of those people that recognize a good thing when they see it. She saw the good in Kim Wright’s Conscious Contracts© and went for it. Fernanda is a lawyer but she knew that the rule of law wasn’t doing the job…

About the Hosts

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Jose Leal


I started several businesses while I was in my late teens and rode the Internet wave, reaching that entrepreneurial dream—the successful exit.

I’ve spent the last several years researching and studying what makes us human and what prompts us to certain actions and choices. Our vision is a future where the traditional FIAT hierarchy no longer grinds people into submission but rather the new realities of co-management and co-ownership give people and organizations the opportunity to flourish.

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Matt Perez


Matt Perez has spent 40+ years in technology. His work life has been bookended by Sun Microsystems at one end and Nearsoft at the other. The experiences he's had along the way, good and bad, underpin the alternative to Fiat concept.

Over time Matt got off the treadmill and by the time Roberto Martinez and him started Nearsoft in 2007 he was a very different person.