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Calarogu Shark Media, Hello and welcome to Palace Intrigue game
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host Mark Francis. In Thenews dot co dot UK, Daniel
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Alsa writes the adjective explosive gets used far too often
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to describe snippets of news, but in the case of
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what I'm about to tell you, it is positively a
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grade semtex. Just when you thought your jaw could not
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plummet closer to the floor. Faced amid the tide of
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horrifying revelations about Jeffrey Epstein and Andrew mount Batten Windsor
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comes a new claim that has concussive force to take
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the roof off a nuclear silo. Sarah ferguson the erstwhile
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Duchess of York, might have slept with Epstein after her
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divorce from Andrew, also explains that on substack, Andrew Lowney,
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author of The Rise and Fall of the House of York,
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suggested the possibility that the relationship between Epstein and Fergie
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was sexual, saying Andrew was sleeping with Glaine, Glaine was
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sleeping with Epstein. I've heard that Epstein and Sarah were
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sleeping together. It doesn't surprise me, quoting Louney Further, there's
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a complicated psychosexual network going on as well as a
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financial one. Certainly, Glaine and Sarah were not friends. I
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think Elaine was rather jealous of Sarah and vice versa.
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She felt that Sarah was moving in on someone she
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saw as her boyfriend, Elsa adds. Meanwhile, Fergie was still
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writing about Andrew like a love sick teenager after a
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Mills and Boone bander on Christmas Day, twenty ten, decades
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after divorcing Andrew, calling him my handsome Prince a Saint
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says that she worships him and still loves him. Documents
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from the United States Department of Justice show that Sarah
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Ferguson received several cash transfers from Jeffrey Epstein, including a
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payment of approximately one hundred and fifty thousand dollars, according
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to reports. One transaction highlighted in the files dates back
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to two thousand and one, when Epstein is said to
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have transferred roughly one hundred and nine thousand pounds to
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Sarah Ferguson following a sheer sale. The payment was reportedly
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sent by Epstein's JP Morgan account and is described as
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one of several financial injections made to the former Duchess
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of York. Further documents detail Epstein's financial dealings, including dividends, purchases,
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and transfers. Among the emails released is a message from
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two thousand and nine in which Ferguson appears to ask
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Epstein for twenty thousand pounds to cover rent. That exchange
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begins with an email from an American lawyer and former
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NBA commissioner, David Stern, who forwarded an ABC News article
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to Epstein under the subject line Duchess of debt closure
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of Sarah Ferguson's business. Epstein then copied in a contact
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identified as ferg writing you have a rat. The recipient,
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appearing to be Ferguson, replied correct adding that a named
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investor had broken a confidentiality agreement and continued ABC and
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all this is being handled by my lawyer. Other emails
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attributed to Ferguson described Epstein as a legend and as
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the brother I have always wished for. Other documents suggest
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Sarah took her daughters, Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie to
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meet Epstein shortly after his release from prison in two
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thousand and nine. According to the documents, the visit took
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place in July of that year, just five days after
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Epstein had been released following a sentence for child sex offenses.
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At the time, Princess Beatrice was nineteen and Princess Eugenie
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was twenty. Epstein had served twelve months in custody for
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soliciting a minor for prostitution and was subsequently placed under
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house arrest. Emails released as part of the latest Tranch
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show Epstein informing Glenne Maxwell of the visit, writing ferg
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and the two girls come yesterday. The day before the meeting,
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Sarah Ferguson herself appeared to contact Epstein directly, writing what
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address shall we come to? It will be myself, Beatrice
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and Eugenie. Are we having lunch? The correspondence indicates that
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the meeting took place at Epstein's home in Palm Beach,
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where he reportedly served vegetable asignia prepared by a Parisian chef.
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In one email sent in twenty ten, Ferguson expressed anxiety
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about how she believed the institution would respond to scandal,
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writing no woman has ever left the royal family with
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her head and they cannot behead me. Therefore they will
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discredit me. In another message, she said she was totally
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on my own after a scandal in which she appeared
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to accept five hundred thousand dollars in exchange for offering
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access to Andrew to a tabloid. As her financial situation deteriorated,
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she told Epstein she felt abandoned, writing that she was
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being one thousand percent hung out to dry. She continued,
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I am totally on my own now. This is beyond
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scandalous and nobody can do anything. I cannot believe what
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this is all coming to. In an earlier email sent
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before those messages, Ferguson pleaded for reassurance from Epstein, writing
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have you died on me? Don't please? You are my pillar.
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Additional messages suggest that Epstein also attempted to arrange social
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contact between Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie and his goddaughter,
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Selena Dubin. Selena is the daughter of billionaire hedge fund
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manager Glenn Dubin and his wife Eva. In one email
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dated June twenty second, two thousand and nine, Epstein wrote
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to Sarah Ferguson and Eva Dubin saying, my goddaughter will
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be in London. From July eighth through ninth, Eva will
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be with her. Let's come up with a fun idea.
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A previously recorded television interview in which Sarah Ferguson publicly
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defended Andrew has resurfaced. The interview, broadcast in twenty fifteen
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on The Meredith Vieira Show, shows the former Duchess of
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York responding to allegations made against her ex husband by
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Virginia Geoffrey. During the interview, Ferguson rejected the claims and
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criticized those making them, saying I don't understand in this
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day and age how people can make sealacious lies up.
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This is defamation of character of the person who is
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the opposite of how he is poortrayed. It's just shockingly
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accused lies which I won't stand by or let anybody believe.
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In The Daily Mail, Richard Kay writes of Fergie, all
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we can be sure of is that she won't disappear
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for long and then well, she won't be hiding anyway,
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says a close figure. It's not her style. It's true
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she needs some space now. This holsaga has dominated her
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life for the last five years, making it impossible for
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her to think about anything else. She has been in
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the middle of it all and it has undermined her resilience.
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Being away from Royal Lodge, away from Andrew, will, says
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her friend, enable her to be reputationally freer. According to
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the same figure, however, she will continue to live in
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britain More Palace. In just a moment in the Telegraph,
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Hannah Furness writes about Andrew's latest photo op. As sure
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as night follows day, those in royal circles now except
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the negative headlines about the King's brother will be followed
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by a horse ride captured for the cameras. Driving his
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Range Rover on the Windsor estate, Mister mount Batton Windsor
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looked as though he thought he were a superstar, greeting
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a crowd of fans, waving and grinning. He seemed either
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unaware or unmoved by fresh revelations about his years of
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communication with Jeffrey Epstein and the growing accusations about his
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own sex life. Responses from other sources close to the
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royal family range from exasperation to discust. Most, though, use
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the phrase duty of care to a man who is
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under significant pressure and whose patterns of behavior have sometimes
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been concerning. Sending him into exile won't help, says one.
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The King is instead providing a roof over his head
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and a modest stipend, which, the theory goes, will prevent
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mister mount Batten Windsor from seeking financial help from others
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whose motives are less clear. ITV has released a trailer
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for its forthcoming royal drama The Lady, a series that
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revisits the story of Ferguson's former dresser Jane Andrews, who
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was convicted of murder nearly twenty six years ago. The
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trailer was made public just hours after the latest tranch
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of Epstein related documents emerged. Jean Andrews worked for Sarah
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Ferguson for nine years from nineteen eighty eight until ninety seven.
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In the drama, Andrews is played by me and McKenna Bruce,
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while Ferguson is portrayed by Natalie Dormer. ITV shared the
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trailer on its social media platforms with the caption Jean Andrews,
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former dresser to Sarah Ferguson, the Duchess of York. She
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rose from Grimsby to Buckingham. Pallison fell from Buckingham Palace
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to the Old Bailey on trial for the murder of
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her partner. The Lady Coming Soon. Natalie Dormer drew attention
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last year when she announced she would not promote the
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series following renewed reporting on Ferguson's links to Jeffrey Epstein.
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At the time, Dahmer said, the new information makes it
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impossible for me to reconcile my values with Sarah Ferguson's behavior,
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which I believe is inexcusable. The drama chanced the rise
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and fall of the Cleathorpes born former royal dresser, whose
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career unraveled after she was convicted of killing her boyfriend
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Tom Cressman in two thousand Andrews attacked Cressman as he slept,
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striking him with a cricket bat and stabbing him at
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their flat in Fulham, London. She was convicted of murder
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at the Old Bailey the following year and sentenced to
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life imprisonment. Andrews served fourteen years before being released on
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license in twenty fifteen. She was recalled to prison in
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twenty eighteen following allegations of harassment involving a married man,
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though police took no action after finding no evidence. She
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was released again in twenty nineteen. The series will air
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on ATV one and STV in the UK and they
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