Oct. 6, 2025

Did Prince William, King Charles and Kate Middleton just Troll Prince Harry with Those Grey Suits?

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Is the Palace sending a subtle message to Prince Harry? After his complaints about “the men in grey suits,” royal watchers noticed coordinated grey tailoring across the King, Princess Anne, and the Princess of Wales—prompting viral speculation. Meanwhile, Harry’s quiet attempts at reconciliation reportedly don’t include Meghan, who remains unconvinced. He also distances himself from legal drama after William was unexpectedly named in court documents. And after Dr. Jane Goodall’s passing, the Sussexes’ tribute was met with online backlash for making it, as one critic said, “about them.” Plus: King William, our new fictional series, debuts this Sunday, and the Duchess of York continues to hide from view as the Epstein scandal escalates and Parliament threatens to strip titles.

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Hello and welcome to Palace Intrigue. I am your host,

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Mark Francis. Royal Watches think the Palace may have replied

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quietly to Prince Harry's recent complaints about the men in

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gray suits. Last week, the Princess of Wales in Lincolnshire,

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the King of Scotland and the Princess Royal and Kiev

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all appealed and coordinated gray tailoring, a choice that sets

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social media buzzing. As one post to put it, oh

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well played gray suits ca lore today. The fashion chatter

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comes after reports that Harry left his London meeting with

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the King frustrated by what he've used his interference from courtiers.

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A source close to the Duke told The Male on Sunday,

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the relationship between the Duke and his Majesty the King

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is a matter for the two of them, and the

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two of them only the men in gray suits should

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stay out of it. Not all come when Terry was sympathetic.

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One line during the rounds suggested Harry had mistaken a

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brief tea in a slice of cake for the Treaty

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of Versailles. Whether the monochrome moment was sartorial coincidence or

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a deliberate flourish. It landed. The gray suits kept the

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message understated, while the headlines wrote themselves. A new report

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claims Prince Harry is attempting to reconcile with the Royal

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family while Meghan Markel remains reluctant to get involved. According

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to Radar Online, insiders say Harry has been holding discussions alone,

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with Megan keeping her distance. One source told the outlet

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the Royal family values Harry's attempts to mend fences, and

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Charles in particular, is glad to see the effort. Still,

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Harry is handling the discussions by himself while Meghan keeps

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her distance. Friends reportedly say Harry has described the situation

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as an impossible balance. He can't satisfy Megan while also

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persuading his family she truly wants reconciliation. To him, it

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feels like a lose lose situation. The report also suggests

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Harry has agreed to coordinate his schedule with Pallace Aids

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in what's been called a deconfliction effort, after his trip

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to Angola in July coincided with Queen Camilla's official birthday

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portrait sources claim Harry has privately expressed regret for some

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of the comments he made in interviews and in his

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memoir Spare Meghan, however, is said not to share that view,

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with one insider saying she remains convinced they were mistreated

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and isn't willing to compromise. A senior aide added if

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she stays out of it, it gives the impression she's

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quietly directing things behind the scenes. The King wants assurance

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that both of them are committed, not only Harry. Harry

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has moved to distance himself from a legal row that

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unexpectedly pulled his brother into his High Court case against

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the publisher of The Daily Mail. The Duke of Sussex

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is one of seven high profile claimants, including Sir Elton

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John and Elizabeth Hurley, accusing associated newspapers of unlawful information gathering,

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allegations the company strongly denies. During a preliminary hearing, Harry's banister,

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David Sherborne, submitted Britain arguments that referred to Prince William

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and Catherine, then his girlfriend. The move led to headlines

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claiming Harry had dragged his brother into the battle, but

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according to a source close to the Duke Harry was

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not personally dragging with him into the case and was

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unaware that such references would be made. The source added

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that Harry was not responsible for the arguments presented by Sherborn,

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suggesting he was caught of guard while following the proceedings

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remotely from California. The passing of doctor Jane Goodall at

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the age of ninety one has prompted heartfelt tributes for

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around the world, including from Harry and Meghan, who described

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her as a visionary humanitarian, a friend to the planet

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and a friend to us. They recall that she had

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held their son Archie as a newborn, saying she showered

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love and care to those who were privileged to know her.

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But one memorable exchange between Dr Goodall and Prince Harry

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may in retrospect, have signaled the Sussex's determination to step

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away from royal life. Royal historian Robert Lacy, in his

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book Battle of the Brothers, recount how good All visited

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Frogmore Cottage in May twenty nineteen, shortly after Archie's birth.

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Megan offered the baby for a cuddle, and good Or

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later recalled playfully helping the infant perform the Queen's Wave, joking,

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I suppose you'll have to learn this. Harry, however, cut

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in firmly, no, he's not growing up like that. The remark,

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seemingly lighthearted at the time, now reads as a clear

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indicator of the couple's desire to carve out a different

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path for their child. Just eight months later, in January

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twenty twenty, Harriet Meghan announced their intention to step back

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as senior working Royals. Critics on social media argue that

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the couple made the tribute about themselves. One user on

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exprote that's what those two clowns decide to mention, an irrelevant,

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humble brag. That's how important they think they are, and

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they have to let us think they were such good

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friends that she held archie. Another posted, instead of celebrating

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Joan Goodall's outstanding work, she has to point out she

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was a friend to us and there's some great achievement.

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Who cares? She must have been friends with loads of people.

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Another bluntly added typical of them to make the passing

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of accomplished lady about them more pallace. In just a moment,

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we will have a new series for you. This week

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called Palace Intrigue presents King William. This speculative drama imagines

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the moment the King dies and William becomes king. Episode

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one begins with that life changing phone call. From there,

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the story follows William through duty, grief, Queen Catherine's transformation,

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a former queen struggling to hold her place, and the

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reappearance of a controversial brother. The series begins this Sunday,

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October twelfth. Subscribers to Kalaruga Plus can binge the entire

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season right away. For everyone else, new episodes release weekly

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every Sunday, and you can get that wherever you enjoy

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your podcasts. The Prince William Interview gave Fergie some cover

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over the weekend. For our News, Richard Palmer takes a

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look at how the Duchess is laying low following a

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storm of public anger. Seven charities of cut ties with her,

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and publishers have distanced themselves, refusing to confirm whether her

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books will still be released. Prince Andrey, meanwhile, has been

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occasionally riding and walking in windsor despite renewed controversy in

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the United States of a newly released Epstein flight records,

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normally seeing walking the late Queen's dogs. The Duchess has

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not been photographed in public since the scandal reignited. Their daughters,

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Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie, have also remained out of view.

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Royal commentator Richard Fitzwilliams said the York brand has been

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toxic for some time, and this may well get even worse.

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Both will obviously be devastated by the fact that their

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parents are both in disgrace. The Epstein scandal shows no

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sign of abating, particularly with a forthcoming biography by Virginia

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Jeffrey and political pressure in Washington for further disclosures. In York,

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local anger is mounting once again. MP Rachel Maskell is

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seeking to revive a bill that would allow hereditary titles

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to be stripped from those who bring them into disrepute,

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while the City Council considers removing the Duchess's freedom of

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the city, just as it did with Andrew. In twenty

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twenty two, Maskal said, I think it's really important to

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disassociate them from the city. There are probably many people

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around the world who think they live here. Observers note

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that whether or not the Yorks can maintain their life

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at Royal Lodge. The reputational damages deepening, and with Parliament

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set to reopen the debate on the issue, the glare

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of scrutiny is unlikely to fade. Royal historian Andrew Lowney,

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author of entitled The Rise and Fall of the House

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of York, told Marie Claire never say never. With Sarah

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the Houdini of the Royal family. Most people wouldn't have

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survived the twenty ten exposure of selling access to Prince Andrew.

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It is extraordinary how she has wormed her way back

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into the Royal family with invitations to the Royal Box

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at Wimbledon, hands kissed at Ascot. According to Lowney, King

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Charles was taking a far tougher line on Andrew and

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Sarah than his mother ever did. The Queen was his

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protector and he was untouchable. Complaints were repeatedly made to

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her and ignore. That is no longer the case, and

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they have it. If you'd like to email us or

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