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Ah calorogus shark media all and welcome to Palace Intrigue.
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I am your host, Mark Francis. In The Times, Polly
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Vernon asks what's worse than the whole world hating you?
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Why the whole world not being bothered about you? One
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way or the other. Of course, no one wants to
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be irrelevant, but I suspect a few people want it
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less than Harry, Duke of Sussex Years after all, the
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man who called his twenty twenty three autobiography spare because
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that awful feeling of being at best a backup plan
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for the royal establishment, therefore not especially important in your
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own right, has haunted him for the whole of his life.
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Yet it would seem that not mattering very much in
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the end might be Harry's destiny. I feel more pity
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for him writing those words than I ever have before,
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give or take the time I watched him, heartbreakingly young
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and heartbreakingly pale, walk behind his mother's coffin. Obviously, but
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year a slip slide into inc significance might very well
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be Harry's fate. His fate and that of his wife Megan.
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Most recently, Harry's protests that he will always be part
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of the royal family, and that to the argument he
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is no longer a working royal, he is, in fact
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working and doing the very thing I was born to do,
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which loosely translates as a matter royal blood still runs
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through my veins. I exist. To be fair to Harry.
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He was in Ukraine at the time of those latest comments,
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visiting alongside the Halo Trust, the landmine clearing organization whose
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profile Princess Diana transformed in her nineteen ninety seven trip
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to Angola. The clearing of land mines is a desperately
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important cause, and Ukraine, a country whose ongoing plight is
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constantly pushed out of the headlines by other evolving and
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unceasingly dramatic international situations, could absolutely do with the spotlight again.
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In all those respects, Harry did the right thing. But
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if only he hadn't made it about him, if only
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he'd just done it, Although maybe not making it all
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about you was a lot to ask from someone who
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is discovered therapy, privilege, mental health, victimhood and so forth,
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all at once, rather quickly and rather recently, found himself
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initially rewarded for it. Some factions of the public hasn't
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yet noticed that times and sensibilities have changed. It all
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now plays like irritating introspection and repetitive self pity, ensuring
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even those who once supported him in it now June out,
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drift off, turn the page, scroll down the feed. In
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the Telegraph, Celia Warden writes, another day, another chance to
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remind the world just how much hardship you've endured if
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you're a megan. Although when I glimpsed the headline on
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Sunday Duchess hints at the hardest seven years of her life,
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I genuinely had to check they hadn't picked up an
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old paper by a mistake. The Duchess of Sussex, who
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was a Leo, felt duty bound to share two astrological
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Instagram stories. The first depicted two men dancing to Selene
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Dion's hit That's the Way It Is, with the caption Taurus, Leo,
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Scorpio and Aquarius ending the hardest seven years of their
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lives on April twenty fifth, and the second insisted that
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from the very same date the pressure lifts, you get
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the space to just exist without fighting for it. Now,
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reading between the lines, it has a guess that this
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is about Meghan herself and the hardship she's endured, but
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he is the good news. If the hardship ended on Saturday,
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that presumably means that she can finally stop complaining about
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how ghastly her life as a royal was. But don't
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you dare try and take away her title. How terrible
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the PTSD has been. After all, the strings on that
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violin must be almost worn through at this point. If
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there is a statue of limitations and winging, we've surely
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reached it. Also, and at the risk of stating the obvious,
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Meghan's current life looks pretty damn good to most people
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right now. She and her husband are still very much
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in love and have a combined and net worth of
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approximately forty five million pounds. They have two beautiful children
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and a nine bedroom estate in an exclusive enclave of
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Montecito where it's sunny most days a year. There, Meghan
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can continue to live out one ambition after another, whether
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it's pre tending to be Martha Stewart flogging jam or
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plotting trips to Australia to deliver speeches at young women
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at fourteen hundred pounded ticket retreats called things like her
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best life and she never ever has to set foot
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in another musty smelling British church for as long as
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she lives. Sounds peachy to me, and I'm convinced she
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would instantly be ninety nine percent more appealing to people
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if she dropped the winging. So how about that happy rebrand, Meghan.
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Even the astrologists think it's a good idea. Astrologers don't
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agree with Meghan's reading of the stars. Astrologer inner Bal
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Honeyman tells Hello that while Meghan's star sign Leo may
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have experienced disruption, it was not uniquely affected. She said
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Leo's had faced intense and unexpected changes due to Uranus
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and taurusts, but added that other science were more heavily impacted.
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Honingman explained Taurists have had the roughest because this planet
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was directly in their sign, ushering unwelcome surprises, and added
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Aquarius have had a tough time too because Uranus is
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their ruling planet. Scorpio and Leo have certainly felt the
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rough edge, but not as acutely. Looking ahead, she suggested
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a more positive period could be on the horizon, saying
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in the middle of twenty twenty six, Jupiter, planet of
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luck will go into Meghan's star sign Leo, meaning that
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Meghan and other Leos will enjoy a lot of good fortune.
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In the Express, Hanisha Sathi writes, I do have a
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huge amount of sympathy for Megan Markel's online abuse can't
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be easy to phase damaging a critical comment on a
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daily basis. However, her pr should warn her that her
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hyperbolic statements won't do her any favors. Either difficult or
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traumatic periods in a person's life donet simply lose relevance
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because they are no longer recent. For Megan, her time
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within the Royal Institution represented a profound life transition that
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she clearly wasn't ready for. On the other hand, critics
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argue that repeatedly revisiting these grievances risks appearing counterproductive. Since
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stepping back from royal duties, Meghan and Harry have built
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new lives, careers, and platforms. Some feel that continued focus
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on past conflicts undermines their stated desire for privacy and independence.
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A balanced view, however, might acknowledge both truths that, yes,
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Megan's experience are hers to share, but the public reaction
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will inevitably be shaped by when and how often those
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experiences are revisited. More pounds it just a moment. An
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interesting anecdote appeared in the Sun during the King's visit
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to the United States. Arthur Edwards shared that the King
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once told him, if a bullet has my name on it,
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so be it. Edward writes, he is very unruffled about
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these things, and I never for one moment doubted that
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King Charles and Queen Camella would be getting on that plane.
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He just feels duty is the most important thing, which
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he learned from his mother. I remember in nineteen ninety
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four I was in Sydney, Australia, when David King ran
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from the crowd with a cat pistol and I was
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just walking off. I heard the two shots ring out
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and heard people screaming. I ran around the front to
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see a pile of bodies on the stage, thinking it
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was the Prince. When I tried to climb onto the stage,
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a policeman physically threw me off and I look around
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and there's Prince Charles adjusting his cuffs. Calm as can
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be totally unfazed by it all, and it was quite amazing.
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If there was an hysterical person. That was me. He
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was as calm as a cucumber. He's very philosophical about
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these things. He's never going to stop doing his walkabouts.
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He's never going to stop having people into the palace.
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If it's unsafe to go somewhere, he'll certainly take the
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advice of his protection team. If they say it's very
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unsafe to go there, so we won't go there, he
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will listen to them. But at the same time he
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will not be put off doing what he feels his
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duty is to be king for everybody, not just somebody,
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but the whole nation, and he's doing a brilliant job
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so far. King Charles and Donald Trump are reportedly distantly related,
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according to newly highlighted genealogical research. The connection traces back
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to a shared ancestor, a Scottish nobleman known as the
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third Earl of Lennox. Royal Author Robert Hartman said the
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two men shared descent from the same Scottish noblemen, making
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them distant cousins. He explained, we know that the avowedly
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royalist President Trump already regards the King as a great
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guy and a fighter, but his affection for the monarch
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and the royal family may now become even more pronounced
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when he learns that he and the King shared descent
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from the same Scottish nobleman. The research suggests that link
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runs through multiple generations of Scottish nobility, eventually connecting to
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Trump's maternal lineage through his mother, Mary Anne MacLeod, who
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emigrated to the United States in the early twentieth century.
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Hardman noted that the shared ancestry would make the King
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and President approximately fifteenth cousins. There you have it if
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