NAH 8: Plus One Effect with Brandon Gaydorus

0:00 the whole concept of a plus one goes off this question, Would you rather have a billion friends or a billion dollars? Like, what would you say to that? What's up? Welcome to the New Age Human Podcast, where we have interesting conversations about life. Question the norm, all with the. To thrive in the new age. I'm your host, Jonas Stasio, and before we get started, I wanna just thank you for tuning in and spending time with us. I really appreciate it. If you feel like you've gotten some value from this, feel free to share with a friend so that they can get the value and we can help build this community of people waking up so that we can have, more people impacting our world in a better way.

0:48 Right? Having that positive. now, in today's episode, we have a special guest. His name is Brandon Ga Dores. He is a four times author and founder of Warm Heart Life. The cool part is he helps individuals and professionals with their financial goals. And today we're going to talk about how you can get to your financial goals with a really cool method. He is going to break down, which is called the plus one effect. So, Without further ado, let's go. all right. We are live well pre-recorded, but yeah, we're live Mm-hmm.

1:29 so much, Brandon, for coming on. This is gonna be awesome. I'm excited for everybody that's listening. Yeah, I'm super excited to be on here with you. I can't wait to have this conversation and see what we can do to bring as much value to people as possible. That's exactly the point of this specific show today. Um, I wanted to, um, bring you on because I know you've done a lot and you're actually helping me right now. Um, you are currently helping entrepreneurs, professionals get to their success. You've written several books, but I know everything's awesome for you now, and I know it wasn't always like that, and it's easy for someone to say, Oh, you know, they've always been successful, blah, blah, blah.

2:10 Um, I'm sure you have something that inspired you. And I wanted to start off with that question, like, um, could you briefly share what happened to inspire you to do what you do now? Yeah. Yeah. That's a great, great question. Uh, I think, uh, everybody needs a mentor in life. That, or some sort of guidance if, if you don't like using that word, some sort of guidance. And when I was in college, I needed a lot of guidance because my freshman year internship, I actually got a D. So it was like, Hey, we're gonna give you just good enough where you could pass, but like, you did not do very well. So I was a little frustrated because I had been, I had got okay grades going up, like, you know, A's and B'S for the most part.

2:57 So it's not like I was, uh, like top of my class. School came pretty easy to me, and then when I got a D on my first internship, I was like, Whoa. It was, It was like a reality check, but there was so much I didn't know on that first internship. It was a whole new world I was exposed to, like I was doing stuff done wrong stuff wrong that I had no idea I was doing wrong, So I realized I needed to start seeking out mentorship after that because unfortunately that summer I didn't. A mentor, I was just expected to know what I needed to know at work, which is just, it's just hard to do when you don't know that whole world at all.

3:38 So the next summer I said, Man, I'm gonna find a place where I can work harder than anybody, um, that has ever worked there before. And I did that and it felt good. I got a, got an A on that internship and, you know, made a lot of money at that time. And most importantly, gain a mentor. And it was an unexpected mentor. It was a guy who just had a heart attack probably about four to six months before I had started working there. So he had kind of had this second outlook on life, and one of those things I believed was to be able to give back. And he saw someone who was in my situation wanted to learn who was hungry to.

4:20 He took me under his wing and he taught me the most important thing. I think you can teach someone in life, which is how to take care of people. So a lot of people will teach you how to make money. They'll teach you how to do this, but the, in reality, if you can learn how to take care of people, the money will follow. And that, that was an experience that I'll, I'll forever remember. And then shortly after that, I was at a speech in college where this guy said he wanted to be the best in the world at what he. So he just learned, observed and shadowed all 10 of the top 10 people on his list. So at 20 years old, I started applying that to my life and things started changing really fast, where at 26 years old, six years later, I got voted top 50 in America at what I was doing, which was golf, fitness training.

5:09 And what was crazy is the first person I reached out to on my list, I was now on that same list as him six years. That's insane. And it's also pretty cool how you can find somebody that inspires you. You learn what they do, and then you take action on it, and then you find yourself unknowingly right next to them or in a very similar place. So that's actually pretty, that's pretty, That's, that's an awesome story. And I, and I wouldn't, I, I would've never gotten that list if it wasn't for him. At 20 years old, he told me every single thing that I needed to do to be successful in the. That's why I'm such a believer in learning from the people who have what you want and then just doing exactly what they say and that, and that's, that's what I talk about.

5:54 I have a conference called the A to B conference, and that's what it's all about. It's just going from where you are now to where you wanna be in the fastest amount of time possible. Is there ever a straight line? No, but there's a faster way to get there. Sorry, I'm like muting myself here. I don't want to interrupt because you got a lot of value and I wanna get as much value as I can cuz I know there's people that are listening and they're probably in a similar situation where you were, where they're either looking for a mentor or they found one and they wanna. Just hear some inspiration of Yeah, I can work in. Yeah. Like, I'm going to get there and, um, I think it's sweet.

6:36 I think that's an awesome, um, just path to take to kind of see where you can go with it, have a goal, and then take action on it. Um, I know that you wanted me to ask you what the plus one effect is because, uh, that sounds interesting. Plus one. What is that? Yeah, so the plus one effect is, is one plus one equals two, and then one minus one equals zero, and then one minus. Minus one equals minus ones. So if you're one person, if you're one person and you surround yourself with more plus ones, you're probably gonna attract more wealth into your life.

7:18 You're probably gonna attract better relationships into your life, and you're probably gonna attract better health into your life. If those people are positive influences on all those, which, that's what a plus one. It's a positive influence in some sort of way. And then you have minus ones. So minus ones, maybe they, they're gonna do the total opposite, so they're probably gonna drain time, energy, and effort out of you. They're probably not gonna listen to your ideas and they're gonna say, Why would you do that? You shouldn't do that. That costs too much money. I can't believe anyone would ever do that. And it, for example, with your. Like a plus one might be like, Hey, I'm, I'm gonna go to the gym today.

8:00 Would you wanna join? A minus one would be like, Why would you work out that it's such a waste of time, Or, uh, let's skip the workout today. Let's go to the bar. So that, that's the plus one effect when, when you can attract more plus ones in your life, the rest of the fulfillment that you're looking. The fulfillment that you're looking for in life, it will start to take care of. That makes a lot of sense and it's a simple way to break it down as far as plus one versus minus one because you have energy drainers and whatnot, and all these complex, um, ways to describe people. That's very negative.

8:40 But if you just say simple math plus one ne minus one, then it becomes pretty obvious. I do have a question off of that. What are your thoughts on how many plus ones to have. Would it be based off of a goal that you're trying to hit, or do you try to keep it a nice equal balance where you have, you know, um, plus one relationships plus one financial plus one, um, family. Like, how, how would you organize that and maybe as simple as you could, a simple way possible? Yeah, so you're, you're always gonna have plus ones that you're spending more time with than others, but the whole concept of a plus one goes off this question, Would you rather have a billion friends or a billion dollars?

9:30 Like, what would you say to that? If I would rather have a billion friends or a billion dollars, A billion friends is way more valuable than a billion dollars. That's a lot of friends to keep up with though, Yeah. So a lot of people think too hard about that question. Um, and most people say a billion dollars because you oh, a billion, billion friends. It's a lot of people to keep up with. It's not, it's not about the concept of having to keep up with'em. Just picture, if you had a billion friends, those friends can answer all of your questions. So if you have a friend, That understands wealth very well.

10:11 You can ask him or her exactly what you'd need to do to ha to generate a billion dollars. If you ask all of your billion friends for$10 and let's say one fifth of them give you that$10, now you have$2 billion. You see what I'm saying? I see exactly what you're saying. so that that's the thing. You know a lot of people, a lot of people try or think that money is the answer to all, all problems, and then you see the total opposite.

10:52 Oh, money can't buy you freedom and all that stuff. Here's the thing, if you get enough plus ones in your life, you're not gonna have to worry about wealth. You're not gonna have to worry about poor relationships. And you're not gonna have to worry about poor health as much there, There's always gonna be things that happen, but when the issues pop up, you're gonna have people to turn to, to help solve those problems. So that, that me, I'm trying to get as many plus ones as possible and, And it's working. It's working. You know, it may not be the easiest thing to keep up. But I just know if I keep doing the right things, the rest will figure it out.

11:36 My schedule has never been more packed than it is right now, and what do I do? I just focus on what I need to do today, and when I focus on what needs to do today, I just move to tomorrow and then I move to the next day, and then I move to the next day, and I'm able to get so much more done than most people just because of that. This simply how I make use of the productivity of my day. When, um, You were saying you're trying to get as much plus one people as possible. Can you give like maybe a, an idea of what you are doing to get those plus ones other than, um, I know there's networking events and stuff, but what do you, you know, any, any advice on that aspect of things on how to do that?

12:22 Yeah, you're, you're asking like really powerful questions today. So the, that's a really important question. I had to re reevaluate that quite a lot and the pandemic really helped me figure that out. So I personally, like I learned this from Jesse Itzler, he said, Good friends do these three things. They compliment, they congratulate and they consult. So I knew that if I started having personal development event, I was gonna see who was gonna show up. It's just consoling is a version of showing up. A lot of people think of it like, oh, when someone's on their deathbed or when someone got out of a relationship, all that stuff. But consoling in general is just showing up.

13:04 It doesn't have to be for negative reason. It could be like me, I need, I need the people close to me to come to my. I pour my heart into those so that they can feel the environment so that they can meet the people so that they can have the inspiration that happens at those events. So the people who come to my events, I know that they are probably gonna be plus ones moving forward. The people who don't, it's not like I'm cutting them out of my life, it's just I'm focusing on spending more time around the people who did show up. So that, that is one thing that I did. I. I started saying, Hey, like this is what I'm doing. It really means a lot to me.

13:45 Can you make it to this? And it's not like I charge astronomical rates for my events. It's, it's, it's a way for me to get a lot more plus ones and for the people in the room to get a lot more plus ones around them. And that's how this plus one effect is really hit big. You know, a lot of people see success like we were talking about earlier, but what they don't. Is the process of building up to that. I've been consistently posting videos for four years now, and I've been public speaking for about six years now, and I didn't have something that absolutely took off where people started talking about it outside of my realm until the plus one effect.

14:27 I had kind of had it with the top 10 rule, but it never really hit till I started explaining the plus one. and then everyone, I was like, Oh, what was your main takeaway? Oh, the plus ones like, It's so simple, but you're so right. Like the way you explained it, it's like, I need to get more of those people in my life. There's always gonna be negative ones in my life, but if I can focus on getting more, plus ones more positive, people who add value instead of drain value, more people who listen to my ideas instead of put down my ideas. If I can get more of those people. Then the rest is gonna start to take care of itself. I agree a hundred percent.

15:09 it's almost like you're creating plus ones and then you like, join me. And that's exactly, that's pretty much what you're doing too. Um, and, uh, my thought starts to go the opposite direction. How do you handle knowing that someone is a minus one, and how do you. Design or prioritize that relationship in a way where you're not mean, but you are just letting them know that you're focusing on, um, your plus ones. Like how do you handle that, you know, without being like a mean person. Yeah, it's, It's a great question. It's a great question. So you try and be a plus one to them.

15:50 So an example could be, If someone just broke up from a relationship, you can have lunch with'em. You can go over to their house or whatever, meet up with'em and just sit there and listen to'em. Now it gets to a point where you could, they can only complain so much before they have to move forward. Like they, they're gonna probably have to vent a little bit and that's way you can be a plus one by just listening. But eventually you'll have to say, Hey, I totally understand. One of the most challenging, hardest moments of your life, and I want to be there for you, but in order for me to be here for you, we need to move forward from this.

16:35 So can we, can we talk about something else? Can we do something to get this off your mind? And then if they keep complaining about it, then you're probably gonna be a lot more, less likely to hang out with them after that. I'm not saying don't hang out with. But it, it's just kind of how it works. So I always like to say, if there's a minus one in your life, try and be a plus one and see if they'll shift towards you. I've had people come back into my life that I didn't cut out. I've had people come back into my life because I'm that plus one and, and that's why I tell people, I'm like, You don't have to cut people outta your life.

17:15 What you have to do is focus around being more of those plus ones and you will inspire some of those minus. To reach back out to you. I had a guy from, uh, high school, he called me like two years ago. He said, Brandon, I think it's incredible what you're doing. I just want to say that, um, I, I really apologize for like the stuff I used to say to you in high school. I don't even remember what he said to me in high school. Like, I have no idea. But he reached back out to me and we formed a relationship from that, and we started talking again. Now the problem. People can get very motivated by being around a plus one, but you have to stay around plus ones.

17:55 Otherwise, you detract back to the minus one mindset. So that's why, that's why I like your environment is so important. So me, I, I said after high school, I have to, I have to figure things out. Like there's certain things that I need to figure. and I moved away from my hometown. I haven't lived there since because I knew, I knew I needed to get around an atmosphere where I can get around people, who can get me thinking in the way that I need to think to, to hit these big goals that I wanna hit someday. I love that man. That's smart. Be the plus one. That also aligns with my favorite quote, which is be the change you seek to see in the world, which is exactly what you're doing, and then.

18:44 That's a perfect example of someone coming back and saying, Hey, you know what? You are you, I want you to be my plus one without really saying it. You, you always have been and I appreciate you. And um, it is interesting how that person apologized too, so they recognized that they were a minus one. And I like the ability to help someone identify. Telling them cuz no one wants to be told they're a minus one ha. Actually, have you ever been told technically that you were a minus one in I know. I know there was time. I know there's times right now where I could be a minus one, and I have. Catch myself. I've said, I've said Brandon, like shouldn't have said that there.

19:25 And uh, usually it will be like, like a, a negative comment that I said that just goes along with the conversation. Cuz when people are spewing out negativity, it's a lot more easier for you to spew it out too. So, um, sometimes I'll, I'll do that and I'll be like, Oh, I shouldn't have said but you, but you learn. And, uh, yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure even with what I do right now, like there's people who can't handle the positivity. There's people who can't handle the ambition that I have, and I like, I may be a minus one for them like I may be. And, and that's fine. Like, that's fine with me. You know, because they're gonna, they're, they're probably gonna, they, they're, they just can't handle the plus one feeling.

20:11 They just can't ha So they may feel like, Oh, that guy posts way too much social media on, uh, uh, on positivity, on personal development. Like, I don't wanna follow that, you know? So, so you may, you may see that, but what it does is like when you start going after what you. When you start being the example, uh, that others aspire for, you start attracting the right people into your life and a lot more opportunities start to come in. Like, I just got to speak in Tampa, Florida, and that was one of the first people that I invested my time, energy, and effort in to helping out and to see the following that he has built in a world that I don't, I barely know at all.

20:56 I just, I just know the execution of a goal. And I know numbers. And to be able to help someone like that who's in a totally different world over the last two years, just skyrocket revenue, skyrocket attention, skyrocket, following, skyrocket, his speaking sales, it was unbelievable to see. I was blown away. I know how hard it is to get a hundred people in a room and to see what he did at 22 years old with his team. This weekend was just so. That's awesome. And I, I appreciate you sharing. Um, your vulnerability of, Hey, you know what? Sometimes I still struggle with that.

21:36 Um, I know it's easy to say, Yeah, I'm perfect. You know, I, that's, that's the path or that's the past, right? And I do appreciate your, uh, for those that don't know, I've been to Brandon's, uh, speaker training. Phenomenal experience. If you have any questions, just hit me up. Um, one of the huge things I learned from you was along the side of you don't have to be perfect to give back. You don't have to be perfect to be that plus one, and you don't even have to be the perfect example of the message. And I. As long as you got something, some type of, um, success in learning, um, from what you are trying to share.

22:21 I think there's definitely value and the fact that you're giving it, and that inspired me to, to talk about the topic that I spoke at that keynote, because that topic was something that I struggle with still. But I know that, you know, we forget on our journey that um, there are people. Are still at where we were before, and I'm sure you've seen that all the All the time. All the time, right. My question to you is, I know that, um, you're kind of limited on time. I wanted to give you a chance to share. Um, you, you started mentioning a little bit. You, you're like, you have a big event coming up. I think it's called the eight to B Con, the second one.

23:02 And, um, you just came back. I think you're still, you know, yeah. You just came back from Florida. You're, you're traveling a little over. Um, feel free, um, to share what you are working on now. Um, and if anybody, if you have. anything special you wanna share as far as where to find you or just kind of like, Hey, this is what's happening. Yeah, well one of the things I'm working on is working together with people like you, so seeing you take the action to start your podcast after speaker school I is incredible. And that, and that's how this, this whole concept of warm heart life. Can really spread. It doesn't have to spread through my company cuz what warm hearts can change the world. And, and that's the main thing I'm working on, is growing together with as many people as possible.

23:44 I do that through speaker school, I do that through conferences. I do it through one-on-one business coaching. I call it goal execution coaching. So what I'm doing in April is the, the second annual a A to B conference in Stanford, Connecticut. And what I do is I spend about six. Working on filling that room with plus ones. The speakers are important. They're, and we got some incredible speakers, but what most people are blown away with at my conferences is the amount of plus ones in that room. And so you're gonna be in an environment that you've never felt the energy that you felt before. And there where there's gonna be people who wanna see you grow, who wanna listen to you and want to stay connected down the road.

24:28 So you may leave out of there with 10, 10. Solid plus one friends from there, and that will be April 15th, Stanford, Connecticut. The early bird tickets are on sale now, and we're working on a big, big event after the conference on that same day that it will be really, really exciting. So stay tuned for the details on that. I'm looking forward to it. And I like the, uh, the idea of filling a room of plus ones. Um, when you mentioned plus one for some reason right now, again, it prompted me to ask you a question. Um, Is there such a thing as a plus two?

25:09 Uh, that's a great question. You know, the, it, it's funny. concept can get so over complicated, um, and overthought. And is there maybe, Yeah, I just like to think if there's, if there's two people in your life that are plus ones, that that's a plus two. Uh, so that, like I said earlier, there's always gonna be people who you spend more time around with others. There's gonna be people who help you out more than others. But the key is just like, get those positive people in your life. Will there be people that help you two times, five times, 10 times, a hundred times more a course. Uh, but if you can get more of those plus ones, you know that it's gonna be a cool environment that's around you.

25:52 And people will feel that. People will feel that like it. It's a feeling that it's hard to describe. Like people look at me a lot differently now than they looked at me three, four years ago, even if they know nothing about me because they can start to feel that. They can feel the. Um, I wanted to ask you, I know that we were talking about plus one and getting around people that inspire you to want to make those changes is awesome. It actually gives you energy more than coffee, right? Um, but what kind of, um, advice do you give somebody once they get to that plus one situation where, All right, I have a couple of plus ones around me.

26:37 You know, what do I prioritize next? Do I just hit, hit, you know, hit the floor running? You know, is there anything that I should prioritize after that? Or kind of, you know, how can I use that? You know, you can tell it briefly and whatnot. we're, we're around this constant whirlwind in life. There's so many things going on in your life, thoughts, actions, experience, you name it. There's so many things constantly going on, and you could have all these ideas in the world, but if you don't execute on them, then it does really doesn't matter. So, you know, once you have positive people in your life, you feel like you can do something great, you have to start thinking about, Hey, what is it that I want? Who can help me get there and what action do I need to take to be able to get to that amazing vision that I'm going after?

27:21 And what most people do is they just overcomplicate this, but it's like, Hey, you know, what is it I want? So take time to think, like write down what do I want? Okay, who can help me get there? Now what do I need to do daily or weekly to be able to get. And then you need to refine that action if it's not working, so that you can stay focused and do whatever needs to be done to get to that goal. So, so that's, that's the key right there, I love it, man. I like how you, uh, you like, you are good at simplifying stuff and. Take me to ask you a, a complicated question that's just completely unnecessary.

28:04 I like the plus too, but I like the, uh, the, those three steps that you gave. So I hope everybody was paying attention and um, was able to take something from that. Um, I know we, we've been talking for a little bit and I've been, um, just throwing some questions at you. Is there anything that, um, that came up while we were talking where you wanted to. Had to go further into it, or you just wanted to make sure you clarified that. Maybe we maybe just passed over. I think the biggest thing is don't be afraid to ask for help. You know, you, you can only do so much on your own. Kobe Bryant talks about how you can do some phenomenal things by yourself, but they will never reach their full potential unless you can learn how to do them collectively.

28:46 So, next time that there's something that you wanna do, just ask for help because you, you have developed. Into the person you are today based on the experiences that have led up to now. So in order to be a different person that makes more money, that has better health, that has better relationships, you're gonna have to learn from those people who have that because they can help you understand what you need to do to be able to get to that next level. So, so many people are afraid to ask for help, and you know that that's literally the answer to probably everything that's going on in your head that's keeping you. Making that million dollars, making that$10 million, having that six pack, uh, you know, having, having a, a healthy relationship with friends, family, romance, Ask for help.

29:40 I know I struggle with that. Asking for help. You know, it's easy to say I can figure it out. You know, I figured out all these other stuff, but, uh, I do love that the idea of asking for help and that's why it's very valuable to have those plus ones. So I love it, man. I got a lot of out of it myself. Um, I'm excited. This is. always, we, we could always do a part two. You know, we Oh yeah, I think there's so much, I'm trying to keep it narrowed down because I'm like, Oh my God, we can go this way. We can go that way. But I like that we were able to keep it simple today. And, um, yeah, I'm down for a part two if you're down. So, um, let's do that. So I, I do appreciate your time today. Um, we will touch base. Thank you so much for coming on.

30:22 Absolutely. Thank you, John. Thank, Thank you everybody. Best way to follow me is Instagram, b r a n d o n g a y d O Y u S. You can DM me. Happy to answer any questions.