# 37: A New Perspective: Discovering Yourself Through Psychedelics

0:00 I promise it, I'll put this on my three cats, my brother's dog, and my brothers and my boyfriends. The little girl literally came next door. She came from next door, knocked on my door and said, you guys called me. And we both looked at each other like, no, we did not. But it was freak. We were freaked out by it. And she looked, she saw us and she can see that we were freaked out and we were like, you know, we didn't wanna tell her what was going on, All right. Welcome to the New Age Human Podcast. today we have. My friend Kay. She is, we're excited to talk because we're gonna talk about, um, hallucinogens and mushrooms and having trips.

0:41 Yes. And, and why are we gonna talk about that? So, before we get into that, if you're watching this for the first time, or if you have been enjoying the content, please like, share comments, share with a friend or family that you think will be interested in this stuff. And, um, so that we can get more people that know about this show and we can help pe more people unlock their potential and thrive in a new age. Right? So we're gonna talk about hallucinogens and why are we gonna talk about hallucinogens? Well, it's a way to unlock your. I guess yours, yourself. Your, your, yes. Your powers. Like literally, you literally conversation like you're like, I have powers. I was like, legit with yourself and you are just like, whoa, am I the No, it can't be The other people have that.

1:24 But then you really start discovering who you are. Exactly. And that's amazing. So let's, let's, let's get into it. We're gonna talk about, um, You know, what got you into hallucinations and stuff. Um, so yeah, go ahead man. So, um, the journey started in 2019, July, 2019. The first time ever that I tried trs and it was quite the trip. Um, I was scared and it took me literally two weeks prior to, um, from the day that I purchased the sh. So I should take it simply because of the misconceptions and the stigma that's behind it. So I was just very hesitant on, on taking it. But when I took it, it was a experience that I found quite interesting, scary, but not necessarily, but a lot that I knew that I was gonna be able to learn from.

2:12 And that was just my first trip. It wasn't until I started seeing a lot of health issues that. I went to doctors for, um, I took tests, everything came back normal as per usual. Um, but you know, when you just know your body's telling you something different, you just have to find out or figure out what's going on because if not, if you just go time with time without like noticing um, what's going on or even like trying to fix it, rectify it, things are gonna get worse. And that actually happened for me. Um, instead of going to the doctors, cause I've already did that for so many time. I went to my elders and then when I went to my elders, You know, I'm more of a naturalist. I like more things, more natural herbs, things of that nature, you know, holistic healing.

2:54 Mm-hmm. So my grandmother gave me a natural remedy, but that's too, too much tmmi, so we're not even gonna get into that. But, um, I felt that it worked and I kind of just pondered that idea of like, you know, our ancestors didn't have this technology, so mm-hmm. What helped them heal and that kind of, so getting into it, um, what specific. Challenge health wise were you having? So it had a lot to do with like, I'm not gonna say my reproductive system, but it had a lot to do with the female system. Yeah, the female system, I guess the female stuff that I don't have. Exactly. Um, and it was worrying me because me and my boyfriend were having health issues and it was just, he had his own health issues and it wasn't like us stepping out of the relationship or nothing.

3:40 It was just us literally. Feeling like we're deteriorating and we don't know why. That's not a fun deal. It's not at all. It's not at all. But no, like feeling like you're deteriorating, like mm-hmm. Are you, are you talking about like, you, you were tired? Um, like what do you mean by deteriorating? Because I'm thinking about like zombie. Yeah. Yeah. The skin was falling off. It was not, it was, I felt fatigue a lot. I'm thinking that I might be pregnant. It was not that. I'm thinking that. Potentially my blood count, my blood count is low. I don't know what it was, so I was just going to anybody for anything. I went to like three, four different doctors, but the symptoms that I was feeling was, um, I'm thinking it's a uti. I, it's not a uti.

4:21 I mm-hmm. I'm always frequently, um, urinating. But then I kept seeing cloudiness brought that up to my ob, g y n She told me to go to my private. It was just felt like I was going in circles. Yeah. They were giving you the runaround and, yes. And interesting. Interesting. You went to the, uh, So the experts and they were just like, come back. Yes. When things get worse, I'm guessing. And that's, that's the issue. Why are you, at this point, I'm thinking it's a business for you guys. You know, you are playing with people's lives and that's something that I've, I'm not gonna say just myself, but so many people that are considered cons, conspiracy theorists, that the government are, is here for the people.

5:01 But in reality, let's be honest, they're not. And that's the truth. Um, so let's get into some of those trips as far as like, like how did Microdosing or getting into hallucinogens help? Cause you did say it helped you, like how did it help you? So, first and foremost, I wouldn't recommend you just grabbing a handful and eating because that's, that's what I always did and I was, I felt like, They, it, I benefited a lot, but I wasn't cautious enough because I tripped myself out. Like I scared myself within these trips and that was the very beginning. But you know, after, um, a certain point just recently, I told myself that I, instead of just me going wild on my days off, I need to be more conscious because if I'm.

5:50 Thinking of going in the route that I want to career-wise with passion X, Y, Z, right? I need to be able to lead slash guide and mentor people that are having similar or different issues that I may not or may know how to handle. You know? So in order for me to properly guide the next person, I wanna make sure that I know what I'm doing. Therefore, and you're, and you're, it's mushrooms. What type of mushrooms was it like, um, Penis King and Billy Bill something, if I'm not mistaken. Those are the only two that I've tried. Those Those are actual names or is that like more local names? No, those are actual names. Those are like, okay. Okay. So I'm actually learning more about shrooms and how it affects, and the thing is that it does affect people differently.

6:34 Yeah. Because, um, My brothers, when they, they show me, um, their trips was completely different from what I've experienced. So I would definitely say first microdose, unless you just want to go bat shit crazy and just, you know, by all means. And this is entertainment purposes. Yes. This is not an educational tool on how to trip balls. Yes, yes. And or if you're not a guy, just trip, you know, you're right. Trip what you have. Uh, literally. But um, so are you saying that, cuz I know that we. We're, we're, we're getting into, I'm actually curious. So you were having female reproductive organ mm-hmm. Just system, like it was just out of whack? Yeah, it was just outta whack. And the hospitals at the, the ob gyn, they just didn't have any answers.

7:19 So you, you took penis king, I guess. Yes. First time ever. And it was a crazy trip. Yes. And, and I wanna get into the trip, but. Um, it, did that put your body in, like was it the trip that made your body, like, reset? Like did your body like start getting into a better place or was it more like a, a like a mindset of how you need to take care of your body? I'm very curious. Yes. No, and the reason why I'm asking, answering that way is because, As far as my body deciding, all right, now it's the time to actually do something about it. It wasn't up until recently in March, but I've been Truman since, remember July of 2019, but it wasn't as frequent as it's been within the last month, month and a half, give or take.

8:05 It's, it's 2023. So that's like four years. Yes. Okay. But, and within those four years, my trips in the beginning haven't been, again, as consistent as it ha it has been within the last, I'm gonna say two, three weeks. Okay. Um, But I already knew that my body understood whatever is inside of the mushrooms. And the reason why I say that is because, yeah, I like the trip here and there. It was a great feeling. It helped me, like you said, the mindset at first, I. Targeted my mind. You know what I'm saying? Before the body situation, it had an effect on my mind because it opens your pen one, and that's more of a connection to your higher self.

8:47 Therefore, that connection with God is more, you're more close and open to it rather than you being. Distracted and not open to your higher self when you are just focused on your reality when there are other realities, then other than yours, you know? Hmm. So it took my mindset to get to where it had to get to in order for me to, to physically feel better now. Interesting. If that makes sense. So you're saying a lot of the issues that you were having health-wise was. Helped with simply just changing your mindset. And now, are you saying it was mindset only? Or did you start making like better like food choices because you had more um, respect for the body?

9:31 Yes. Cause you're like, oh, shoot. Like, you know. Yes. So I'm guessing if you're going into like a different world and everything's glowing and there's unicorns and you're like, it's not like that. Unless it, you think that though? Um, okay. Cool. That's cool. Mm-hmm. So let's, let's get into that. Um, those experiences. I'm, I'm pretty sure you listening, you watching like, let's, let's talk about some crazy stuff. So like, but I'm not, I'm not so, so, like, what? Actually I've never, I never, uh, tripped like that, right? Mm-hmm. You could tell. Cause I'm like, I have, I'm really bad with like the terminology. I sound like really bad, you know? I'm like king penis. I've never heard of that. Um, so like, yeah, like, let's, let's.

10:13 Give us a story, like give us something, some, something that you think people would, would enjoy. Um, all right. Quick story. Actually, my first trip ever, um, I was so hesitant on taking it. When I took it, I was like, ah, this is not bad. Ain't nothing happening. So I swear to God, I was on the toilet and it's, I always have a story on the toilet. It's just, I don't know what its, but I was on Twitter and I'm like, this is not even him. I get up. It just, then my reality just shifted like completely, and I'm like, I'm lit. I look in the mirror. My, my pupils are dilated like completely. I'm like, holy shit. Like do I guess, am I scared? I dunno. Keep calm. I keep calm, whatever. And once I get outside, everything's vibrant and bright and beautiful.

10:55 And I just feel like Oprah. You get a flower, you get a flower. I was having an amazing time until I hit New York. When I hit New York. What do you mean you hit New York? You like I went back to New York cause I was over here. So I was, at that time I was living with a friend. Okay. Who, um, she had like, you know, younger siblings and her mom was around, but I didn't wanna bring that, you know, environment. So this current trip, you were in Connecticut? Yes. So, so now you're talking about other trips? No, the same day I went. Oh, you tripping for a while. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I tripped starting in the house, but then, um, you know, I was making plans ready to go to New York because I told my girls like, Hey, listen, I'm about to start, uh, I'm about to try the shrooms and my homegirl that I got it from.

11:39 She was like, you still haven't tried it. I'm like, No, cause I'm scared. I'm trying out. She was like, all right, well good luck if you're gonna come over here, let us know. We'll pick you up. Um, and that's exactly what they did. Cause they knew that I was tripping for the first time. So they wanted make sure that I was okay. But lemme tell you, shrooms are definitely. It has a lot to do with your emotions. Wait, so what happened when you went to New York? You said it went crazy? Yeah, that that's what I was, oh, I'm sorry. Sorry. I'm getting liking picture. I'm like, I'm the kidding. Right. I'm looking for unicorns. That's what you always see, unicorns. Unless you take OD and you just don't know what the fuck you're doing. Okay. Because that's why drag his eye at my, on my doorknob. That shit was unraveling. It was pretty cool. Yeah, I know, right?

12:19 But I go to New York and I just had this, this urge of writing a fucking paper. Like a paper on psychedelics because I started seeing like, you know, this is not as bad as what people think. It's not, I feel amazing. I don't feel groggy. I feel I started reading, like actual researching what mushrooms are, like, what it does, how it affects people. It didn't give me that sluggish. Feel that marijuana always gave me in the past, you know, don't get me wrong, I still like marijuana, but it's not like my choice of drug anymore, simply because I see that it affects other parts of my body mm-hmm. That I don't like. So I just stick with the sh because it's helped me. It hasn't hindered me at all.

13:00 So, whereas I see weed, it is, it makes me do, it makes me feel like I'm not productive enough, whereas show psychedelics. They made me feel productive as hell. I'm always here writing, I'm here discovering about myself, but I don't like what I can tolerate, what I can't tolerate, um, should I have this person around? Is this person worthy of my energy? Is this person like worthy of even of being a good person, do they have the potential of becoming a better person? Mm-hmm. You know, it makes you think a lot and reevaluate not just yourself, but the life choices you made, the people you have in your life, how you can be a better daughter, son, granddaughter, grandson. You're just being a better person overall. It's, yeah, it's interesting cuz um, you're, you're saying a lot of, you're, you're asking a lot of deep questions.

13:45 Mm-hmm. That is really good to ask and not enough people ask those questions. Right. And I can see that. Let me ask you, um, before, um, having those experiences, were you asking those questions? No, I was angry. You were angry? I was a very angry, um, person, just simply because of the mistreatment of not just. Strangers, but friends, even family, you know? Hmm. Um, and I've realized that I became a product of my environment, which is the reason why I had to make a conscious decision and uprooting myself and wanting more for myself, you know? Hmm. Um, so everything happens for a reason. Every decision happens for, even if it's a bad one, it leads you to a discovery that you may have not known beforehand.

14:30 So, I feel like my mistakes made me the woman that I am today, so I don't regret anything I've done. Maybe words I could have said better things, yes. But as far as making the decisions, it's led me up to who right now. Are you saying before you were angry and I feel like after having this experience or mm-hmm. Plethora of experiences over the, the last four years, would you say you're more of a positive person? Yes. And. When you're not hallucinating, uh, would you say that it stayed with you and you continued on? Like you don't, you're like, uh, I need to think deep and where's my mushrooms?

15:11 Like, it just kind of like opens something for you, I'm guessing. Okay. Hundred percent. That's awesome. And I was afraid of that. I'm glad that you may brought that question up because I was scared. I'm like, Am I gonna be able to function without these rooms? Like I felt like a cracking at that point. I'm like, am I? But then I, I even experiment, experimented with that because I'm like, you know what? For the next two days, I won't. Whereas before, I didn't have self-discipline. I didn't have no type of control. I was just binge eating. I was sleeping late. I didn't have no type of discipline for myself. Whereas now, After these experiences, it's made me realize that there are things that I need to control. My eating habits horrible. I'm a fat ass at heart, but horrible. But because of the, the last two, three weeks, it's made me realize that I need to be more lightweight in the sense of what I eat, how what I, um, what I watch, what I read.

15:58 You know, the things that you consume is really gonna. You know, enlighten you or keep you down and distracted. Mm-hmm. I want to get into that story that you told me. I think people would like that when you and my friend, let's just say you, you, when, when you had a superpower. I don't wanna say what it is. Yes, do it. Okay. So this one experience I was with a friend and, um, me and her, we were going through a lot of shit personally, right? Um, but we was like, you know what, let's try it together. Let's not. Much things we could do right now, cuz it was cold and, you know, boring as hell. I didn't have, um, I was just like moving into my, my apartment at that time, but it was like, I help, we, we'll try it.

16:42 So we, we tried and everything's were going good until one point, I don't know what the hell happened. I think I, I ate a little too much or I freaked myself out. I don't know. But, All I see is this picture of like, I dunno if any of y'all seen, um, spawn Uh hmm. Johnny GMO's, um, character, I forget his name. It was like that weird demonn, uh, clown, clown clown clown penguin looking mofo, right? So anyway, that just popped up into my head. Like I envisioned that and I got scared when I turned to my right and might. Everything in the house is just like dark. There's no lights on, no nothing because. Our vision was we can see, well, it wasn't like we fucking can't see nothing, but I just didn't want the bright lights to mess with my eyes.

17:25 But when I turned around, I see shorty looking at me and I, I got freaked out. I close door dumb quick, and all I hear is her voice in my head saying, Kayla, don't freak out, but don't talk to that. Don't talk to me, basically. Cause she wasn't in her body. Her conscious, I guess, was around and I was able to hear her. I heard her. And the thing is that when you hear these people, you can tell whether or not like it's them or not. You know what I'm saying? Right. So she said, don't talk to that. Meaning the clown, whatever entity we're gonna call it, entity, whatever energy or entity was in her body, she, her conscious told me that was in my brain. Don't talk to that because it can be deceiving and you can potentially have a conversation or open a gateway to something that.

18:10 You don't want things coming through. Okay. Yeah. So I was just like, you know what? But I knew that it was some, it wasn't something friendly because your intuition would tell you. Yeah, a hundred percent. You know, but the spirit that was closely related to her that she called it Tink, um, I don't know. I had a little spirit that I called Mickey. Cause it just sounds like Mickey, but that's neither here or there. Y'all all have your own experiences, uh, cuz everybody has spirit guides and mm-hmm. Um, Spirits that are closely connected to them because of this. They're, you know, lenient or their ancestors back to that story. But anyway, sorry. So yeah, so then, um, at one point, you know, I was scared. She told me not to worry that, you know, I'm okay but to not feed into it.

18:53 Cuz the more energy feed into it, the more it grows, you know, the more it, it's gonna feed off of you or anything. So. Cool. That was one point. And then after that whole situation happened, like me and her were like, you know, it would be crazy. We went call. Some other girl that's closely related to us. I'm not gonna say no names, but you know, we started talking about her in our minds conversing, like actually communicating like telepathically about how she would have reacted based off of the experiences that we were experiencing. And long behold, a minute or two after I promise it, I'll put this on my three cats, my brother's dog, and my brothers and my boyfriends.

19:34 The little girl literally came next door. She came from next door, knocked on my door and said, you guys called me. And we both looked at each other like, no, we did not. But it was freak. We were freaked out by it. And she looked, she saw us and she can see that we were freaked out and we were like, you know, we didn't wanna tell her what was going on, but we ended up eventually telling her. She was like, Hmm, that's interesting. But before we told her, I was back on the toilet. I just have a thing with toilets. When I'm washrooms. I just love the toilet. She was in my room and me and her were, were talking and she ended up saying, um, asking the little girl, can you gimme water? And when she was walking to the kitchen, she had told me, damn, I should have told her, um, I want ice.

20:18 And she ends up like, she said, no, you get the ice by yourself. And we hear her in the kitchen. We're like, you heard us? And she's like, what do you mean? I just heard you guys speak. And, uh, we were like, but you heard us speak or did you just hear us? She said, no, I just heard you. So she didn't hear us verbally say it. She just heard us telepathically. So when you asked for ice, not me, my friend. Your friend? Mm-hmm. So were you telepathically having the conversation? Yep. And your friend was in the same room? So our bathroom, my friend was in my room where I could see directly into where the, the other girl was in the kitchen. Okay, so we were all three in different, different places because Cuz you're, because you're tripping. Yeah.

20:58 So she could have technically verbally said it, but I wanted to know the actual situation. Yeah. Right, right, right. And if someone's in the other room and she wasn't shouting, she was just mm-hmm. Like saying, oh, I'm, no, not even, she was saying it in her mind. So this was, so I heard her, you know what I'm saying? I heard my friend saying that comment at bef after, excuse me, after she already asked my friend, my other friend to get her water. She like, She said in her mind, damn, I should have told her, get me ice. And I said, yeah, I know, right? And then she goes, you get your own ice out loud. So I'm like, me and her looked at each other quick, like, you, you tripping on, I'm tripping. We both tripping, so we can't even say that. So then at one point we, we had to bring her in the room and like be honest with her and like, you know, did you hear us say X, Y, Z?

21:42 And she was like, no, I just, I thought it, I heard it like, you know, but I didn't think much of it. And then we, that's when we told her like, yo, listen, you know, We didn't say nothing, but for you to hear us, this is what's going on. That's nuts. And she was like, oh, okay. I'll see you tomorrow. So, yeah, she just took it. Yeah. Yeah. Just was just like, all right. Mm-hmm. And it was a good experience because there were answers to questions that I've had before, but I never knew like it was a thing until I actually experienced it. And people are not gonna believe anything until they see it. They need proof, concrete evidence. Mm. So I'm not here to convince you, I'm just here to. Share my experiences with you all.

22:22 Okay. Thanks for sharing that. That story of uh, being telepathic with your friend, I think that's awesome because from what I understand mm-hmm. When you are ingesting anything, any hallucinogen, it's activating what you have. Mm-hmm. It's not giving you the ability to do things. It's more of unlocking, which is even more exciting cuz that means that you have all. You have all the stuff. Mm-hmm. To literally talk to someone without needing a cell phone, without shouting. You can just think something, and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one. I'm, and I've had conversations with you. You think about somebody they call.

23:04 Yep. Or. Someone's thinking about you and, and like, it's just like we're all connected. Yes. A hundred percent. It's like, and what you're doing is you're, you're just kinda like bringing that to service. So I think that's pretty cool. Thank you. You thank you. So awesome story, but I, I do definitely, because we're talking about this mm-hmm. Um, I definitely wanna get into, as we finish up, what are the precautions, like what to avoid, I've learned to be disciplined and the reason why I say is because, I feel like all of us have to go through a certain experience in order for us to be educated or educate other people, you know? But at the same time, it's like I should have never taken the amount without cautiously weighing it.

23:52 Because I had trips that I was crying for hours, and I'm like, I don't know why I'm crying. But it's because it has a lot to do with your emotions too. If you aren't regulating your emotions, your emotions could go through the roof. You can't end up potentially hurting somebody you love. You can potentially kill yourself. You can potentially, because again, my first trip, I had a really, an amazing trip until the very end when. I felt other people's energy. Mm-hmm. And that almost caused an actual fight between me and my best friend at the time, a little cousin. And I'm thankful that things didn't, you know, escalate. But at the same time that made me realize like, you know, this is a very serious drug that people have to.

24:36 Know how to maneuver through it and navigate with it. Um, but I would definitely say it's not a scary drug. And the thing is that anything could be a drug, A person could be a drug, a um, reading could be an addiction. Anything could be an addiction. But you have to regulate the things that you do, and you have to be conscious of decisions you make. But I. Highly recommend showman, especially for those people who feel very lost, just wandering, don't know what to do with life or want something new because that will spark like that, that little inspiration that you are looking for. Everybody needs inspiration. Everybody has motivation, but not inspiration. And I've always been this person to, I aspire to inspire.

25:21 Okay. That makes sense. Mm-hmm. Um, is there. I'm guessing that dosage wise mm-hmm. It's one gram. Always start one gram and then work your way up. Okay. I agree with that. Okay. Okay. Because I know that, you know, with, with, uh, edibles cannabis, like, I guess what you call it, thc. Mm-hmm. Um, you have to, people are affected differently of course. So you're saying like, Across the board. One gram Yes. Is like considered safe? Yes. And, and as far as like sourcing Yes. And where you get it from, I'm sure it's like huge. Of course. So be mindful of that. Definitely, definitely.

26:02 Because I've actually had, um, uh, one friend of mine in the past who sold me some shs and two or three hours late, I'm like, what's going on? Like, you know, she had to refund me my money. So definitely. Be cautious of where you're getting it from. I only have three particular people that I get my stuff from, and I don't go to anybody else because I have that trust in them. Um, you have to build trust with people who are selling you products that you can potentially get in trouble from. Mm-hmm. So just be aware and cautious of who you do business with. Have trust before you actually purchase anything. Okay, cool. Thank you. Thank you for, for sharing and coming and, uh, that was a wild story.

26:46 Uh, have more. Yeah, I know time Well. Yeah, we'll, we'll, we'll see. We'll see about, uh, talking about some, some other experiences, but, uh, for sure, I like that idea. I liked how. Um, there's just different ways to find a deeper, um, part of yourself to think outside of the box. And it's, um, it's interesting how you were able to, um, better your health because of a mentality. So it's very interesting how that will cycle you or have you go. Make better decisions and just by thinking differently about yourself mm-hmm. About your world. Um, having it, it's almost like you had higher respect for yourself in, in the world, and through that respect, you started to treat it differently.

27:28 So it's interesting. Well, thank you for coming on. Thank you. The show. And, if you enjoyed what you saw or you have questions, feel free to send me a message. my information will be in the description of whether it be a YouTube video or the podcast. You can contact me and I'll relay the message to, to kay if you want to. So, uh, that's all. Let's go see ya later. Have a good one. Perfect. That actually went really well. I was not nervous at all. the information provided in this podcast is based on personal experience and opinion and is intended for entertainment purposes only it is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice diagnosis or treatment All we seek the advice of your physician or other qualified healthcare provider with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition The host guests and publisher of this podcast are not responsible for any adverse effects or consequences resulting from the use of any suggestions or recommendations made in this podcast The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the guests and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of new age human its subsidiaries or any entities they represent