# 97 Escape the Matrix: The Path to Prosperity, Personal Autonomy, and No Taxes | Brandon Joe Williams

0:00 Oh my Lord. I am doing screaming, doing backflips. Whoa. Who in the freak are you calling a taxpayer, bro? Because if they say taxpayer and you don't rebut it, that's also a little bit dangerous. Excuse me, Mr. Person who is subject to internal revenue tax. And you go, yes, do you see what would you like to say they're a good friend? And they go, so you do admit it. It's way beyond jurisdiction. I mean, you are literally a vapor. How can you imprison a vapor? right. So I feel like we scrambled everybody's brains All right. Welcome to the New Age Human Podcast today.

0:41 We're talking with Brandon, Joe Williams, who is an author, negotiable instruments, attorney and foreign national of The Amnesty Coalition. Brandon empowers individuals to question conventional understanding of law, and he provides insights on wealth creation, debt discharge, and personal sovereignty. Now, as a disclosure, this is not legal advice and expect more explicit language in this episode. You have been warned. Brief overview of what we're talking about. The United States of America is a corporation and we have been employees ever since that corporation was created. We will touch on this in the episode, so don't worry. And yes, your birth certificate is part of this.

1:22 since the restructuring of our country after the civil war, this system of control has been in place, largely unnoticed by the public until recently, if this sounds insane. I'm right there with you. This episode is to help demystify these claims and give you a head start into accessing true freedom and escaping the matrix of unnecessary taxes, laws, and increasing attack on our personal prosperity. For those who prefer a visual aid, we recommend watching the video version of this episode, which is available on both the website and on YouTube. The video includes visual references that can help clarify some of the more complex concepts that we're discussing. But don't worry, the audio version will provide you with all the valuable information that you need.

2:08 So, with that said, buckle your seatbelts, Dorothy, because Kansas is going bye bye. Let's get to the show. All right, Brandon, Joe Williams, welcome to the show. How's it going, man? Good. How are you doing? I'm doing pretty good. It's hot over here in Connecticut. I know you're in Cali. I don't know if it's, is it really hot over there right now? Oh yeah. It's a dry heat, so it's not too bad, but it's definitely hot. It's probably 95 or something. I think the last time I was in California, I was in San Francisco where it's just The elevation gets nuts and people were telling me sometimes it, the temperature changes like 10, 20 degrees, depending on where you are at a given time.

2:52 I'm not sure if you go out that way, but I thought that was interesting. I've crazy enough living in LA for a total of 15 years or something like that. I've never been to San Francisco, which I know is, is batshit crazy. I was broke most of the time I've been living out here. So, uh, but anyways, I will definitely be going to San Fran at some point in time. Well, I mean, I grew up. In new york and connecticut and I still haven't visited the statue of liberty. So there's that All right. So today for everybody that's listening, we're going to be going into some very interesting subject matter. It's going to blow your brain Brandon has a very interesting background Where you've been diving into a lot of law and a lot of it has been freeing ourselves from the matrix So to speak And so a lot of us listening are used to thinking outside the box when it comes to like metaphysics and stuff, but, um, this is actually very grounding of a subject, but then at the same time, it's very out of the box and it's kind of hard to describe where it would sit, you know, like it's grounding, but at the same time, I'm like, someone would tell me.

3:58 You're crazy. I'm like, no, this, this is actually real. I mean, uh, in the beginning of this whole deal, how, uh, what was it like when you started to try to share this? I didn't, uh, I was, I was, uh, mouse church mouse quiet about it for about six months. And then, uh, by the time I was ready to share it, uh, is when I launched the website. So when I launched the website, that was when I started sharing the information. I mean, prior to that point, nuts, there was very little sharing that was attempted. That's interesting because I know people that fall into this information.

4:40 We're going to get into it and they start telling people and you did the exact opposite, but. On top of that, you just went hardcore into educating the masses, which is very interesting. You went from zero to a hundred real quick. By the time I was ready to start talking about it, Oh yeah, I mean it was, It was, the course was launched, Or I'm sorry, not the course, the website, Which was only text based at that time, we didn't have any branding, We didn't have the logo, we didn't have the, Uh, it was just branded Joe Williams. One stupid fuck. com, but there was no logo. There was no pickles. There was no, none of that. Um, in the free contract killer course, you can actually see that original version of the website when I'm reading it in the course, that's actually the original version.

5:24 Um, and then for that was March 14th of 2022. And then for, uh, three months, I did nothing but expand and rewrite and correct the website over and over again, like every single day, sometimes multiple times a day. And then in, in, in June, May, June, and then very, very early July, July 2nd of 2022. So may and June, I was shooting all the video for, uh, the free contract killer course, and then July 2nd, 2022 is when I launched the free contract killer course. And then by August I start, I hired a publicist and I was getting on podcasts.

6:10 And by the end of 2022, I was doing five or six shows a week, all around two, three hours each. And that continued from about. October or November of 2022, all the way until maybe two or three months ago, I started to cut down on five or six shows a week because, um, all the litigation stuff that I'm currently involved in is very taxing and it just kind of was becoming a bit. Too much for me. Um, so I backed off on the shows in order to focus more on the litigation. And then now the litigation sort of cooling down, but I'm building 12 or 13 new cases that'll be, uh, filed within the next probably 60, 70 days.

6:58 So that's the kind of like the timeline. And then by the time I started doing lots of shows and the contract, of course, was out by about August, September. Of 2022, that's when we started to see some serious uptick. So if you look at my graph all the way from the beginning, it was like 300 people a month for coming to the website for the first three months. So it's just like way down at the bottom and then the free course. And then we have this huge upshift and then I start going on all the podcasts and then we have a huge upshift and then it just literally just goes up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, all the way through to 2024. And then by 2024, we've been right around 80, 000 a month to the website every single month.

7:40 Uh, like clockwork. That's a lot of eyeballs, man. Yeah. Huh? So let's, let's go into, um, I think everybody would appreciate learning about how you found out about changing your status and how you felt about that. Because once you learn about this, there's a lot of confusion, doubt, and excitement all in one bubble. Yeah. Um, so I'm actually curious, like how that happened for you. I have an idea. I remember listening to one or two of the other podcasts, but, uh, I would love the audience to get a feel for your experience. Yeah, I had a landscaping company that I've had for a while now, and I just, uh, I just walked away from it recently, actually, about a week, a week, 10 days ago, I stepped, stepped down as a trustee, um, just due to way too much going on right now.

8:30 Um, and, um, When I first took over that company, it was very, very stressed. It was in all sorts of disarray and it was, it was actually a structure as a corporation. And, um, so the employment development department, which is the, the payroll mafia of California. Decided they wanted to trespass onto one of my, uh, job sites that was actually at a client's home. So they were actually trespassing on their property and, and, and also sort of, uh, illegally interrogating my staff. Uh, I don't call my, the people who work inside the trust, uh, employees, cause that's actually a very, uh, strange term when you actually go down the rabbit hole, I actually call them performers, sort of like what you would call like a entertainer.

9:19 And, uh, I just, they're just people who perform. That's the definition of a performer. Um, so if anyone asks, do you have any employees and what employees and I, Oh, I don't have any employees. Relax. You can go away now. I have performers. Oh, you mean like entertainers? I mean, nope. People who perform on behalf of my trust. That's it. Very simple, right? So not trustees either. So they say are they trustees? No, and then by that point they're so confused. They usually just go away, which is fantastic. But um, the the The employment development department decided they wanted to send me a very large bill that they manufactured and pulled straight out of their asshole and That is where this story began because I had a very close friend of mine.

10:07 I still he still works there and he And, uh, another friend of mine, another friend of mine, three really close friends working for this trust, uh, landscaping and, uh, right there real quick, I'm actually noticing that you already had a good handle on verbiage and words before you getting into this. Cause I'm thinking you had changed your status before what you were doing, what you were doing at that point, because you, you're, you're like, oh, um, I didn't have employees that had performers. So you were already working with, no, I didn't rename that until later. All this happened around that time. I was like, going to different accountants and lawyers, and they were telling me to just make a payment plan.

10:47 And I was telling them, like, fuck you, why would I make a payment plan, it doesn't make any sense. And that's when I figured out about trusts versus corporations. And then I opened a trust. And then I got the EIN number for the trust. And then I opened the bank accounts. And then I moved all the cash and all the credit card transactions and everything into the trust. And then I told the EDD to go fuck themselves. Um, and they sent me a couple of threatening letters. I sent them a couple of threatening letters and then they just went away. Um, but, but I didn't really Even after that experience didn't really totally know everything. I didn't know a lot of things. I just knew that now I had a trust A non statutory trust which means a trust that isn't open to the governmental Umbrella I didn't go to the government to register.

11:38 I didn't get it from the government It's uh, it was open between myself and some friends. So, um Yeah, it's a interesting situation because when you get the trust all set up, that was my first experience, then these government agencies, such as the IRS or anybody else, they can't, they can't touch it, they can't get into it, they can't even see it anymore. It becomes invisible to the radars entirely. That's nuts. So when I found out about this and I did this, I was like, wow, this is pretty interesting. And then by the time I had completed that, and I had already transferred everything into a non statutory private irrevocable trust, and I started to learn how that works. And I opened up the accounts and moved all the credit card processing over and did all the good stuff.

12:20 Uh, at that point I had opened up or at least viewed a lot of other doorways that were very, very fascinating. And I wanted to continue to go down these various rabbit holes and various research, uh, lines. And, uh, that is essentially where all of this started and what it became to what it is today. And that research has continued every single day. Um, and I left my day job last year in October. Or September. And then I left the landscaping company as a trustee about maybe 10 weeks, 10 days, 14 days ago.

13:00 So slowly, but surely, uh, my life has become more and more and more centric to, uh, focusing completely and entirely on the subject and, and anything else that has anything else to do with literally anything else, uh, has been slowly removed from my life. Piece by piece. And now we're at a point now where, uh, this is pretty much all day, every day, everything, and, and anyone or anything that comes in between me and, and making that happen, uh, is, is typically removed from my life. Well, that's sweet.

13:41 Um, when you, I know you've been on a lot of shows since you started this progress, this process of just sharing how to, what true freedom is. When you go to start to describe, I want to start diving into like, what is it that you did and what is it that you're helping people with, which is essentially changing your status from a U. S. citizen to an American state national. And for the audience, how would you best describe what that is and what that means to them?

14:24 I'll tell you what I've been doing. I've been starting from The Civil War and then going from there because I feel like some, an event that someone kind of has an idea of what happened, giving some clarity to what happened and then how that trickles down now helps people. But I'm actually curious. How do you do it? Assuming that anybody listening has no idea what we're talking about. Well, I have a presentation I usually do on these shows. I can do the whole presentation if you want. Sure. How long would that be? 45 minutes to an hour or something like that. Let's go. Alrighty. Let's do, let's make some magic happen.

15:05 So you, you you're able to have access. Perfect. Okay, cool. So I've done this a million times. It's changed a little bit here and there. There's been a couple of huge breakthroughs that have really changed a lot, but, uh, this, this presentation I'm going to give here is the same one, uh, I've done, you know, many, many times, especially for the past several months, but, uh, the way it works is pretty straightforward. When you go online, you type in, uh, these, these string of numbers, and then this thing here in the middle, and then this weird symbol, and then this string of numbers. What you're looking at is, you're looking at the, for example, the United States Code, uh, this is the Cornell Law School, right? All I did was just type that into the internet, by the way, 28 USC 3002.

15:45 I didn't type in the little section symbol, as you can see. Got it. Uh, the first number, the 28 that you saw there, uh, represents the title. So you'll see here title, uh, basically the, the major, major sections of the United States code, right? Title, it goes up to currently title 54. And each one has different aspects. Like one of the major ones that we get into a lot, obviously, is title eight, which is about aliens and nationality. Uh, banking is a title 12, which is a good one for a lot of the things that we do. We get into title 42 quite a bit, which is the public health and welfare. And, uh, also the whole driving versus traveling and all that good stuff and license plates and driver's license.

16:30 We get into title 49. Which is transportation quite a bit, but title 28 is the one we're going to be looking at now, which is judiciary and judicial procedure. And so the way you read this is this first number is a title. And then you have the body of law, which is the United States code. This is a section symbol. And then we have it's section 3002. We're going to go down to subsection 15. United States means a federal corporation, right? So you have, you have a lot of people talking about, Oh, is the United States a corporation and blah, blah, blah. It is a corporation, but it's a type of corporation called a federal corporation.

17:12 Ironically enough. The word federal is also capitalized, which does have significance, but we're probably not going to get into that right now, or, or maybe we will later on the show. The next thing I usually show people, which is probably the most important thing you'll ever learn in law. Honestly, it's one of the most important things. Um, there's probably two areas in all of law that are the most important areas. Both of them we will cover, but this is definitely, uh, one of those two, um, title 26 is the internal revenue code, the tax code. Title 26 of the United States Code, section 7701, subsection A1, is the definition of the word person. There's two things, like I said, in all of law.

17:52 This is one of the two most important things you'll ever learn in all of law. The term person shall be construed to mean and include an individual, a trust, a state, partnership, association, company, or corporation. So if you take this definition and you combine it here with this idea, United States is a person and you will see that in criminal cases where you have United States versus John Doe. If you look in the jurisdiction and venue section of the criminal lawsuit, it'll say something like. United States is a person as per blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. They're pretty clear about that. This is not some secret information or something like that.

18:33 So United States is a corporation and it is a person. And, uh, the first thing we need to figure out is, uh, where is that person called United States? located. We're going to go to a different body of law in order to figure that out called the Uniform Commercial Code. Now this one is the same shit, but it runs a little differently. So this first number is called article, and then this is the section number. So the way you would read this is Article 9 of the Uniform Commercial Code, 307, or you can say, you know, from commercial code, article nine, section 307, whatever, right.

19:16 And we're going to go down to subsection H and a subsection H states the location of the person called the United States location of United States. The United States is located in the district of Columbia. Now you ask yourself where. How large, what size? So essentially the district of Columbia is a country and there's a state inside that country called United States, which is no different than California or in the European Union, France, just cause it's called United States. That's just, that's all just deceiving terminology.

19:56 You could, you could say it, it could be called, uh, you know, you could take this guy's name, Ms. Riani and just call it, you know. Okay. Mezrianneville. So, so Mezrianneville is a state inside of District of Columbia. You can say the same thing. United States is a state inside of the District of Columbia. Now, the problem is we don't know where in the District of Columbia. We don't know what size, what shape, what coordinates. We don't know where I've never seen any information that clarifies inside of the district of Columbia, where or how large or what size this state or person called the United States is inside of it.

20:40 So even if you were born in Washington, DC, if someone said you were born in the United States, well, that would be up for debate, uh, because the thing is, is that the person who said that would be the one who'd be burdened with the idea of of proving it. And I'll tell you right now, if I've never found proof as to the location and size of the state called United States, I'll bet a lot of fucking money that no one else is going to be able to find it either. I may find it one day, but man, I've looked, I can't find it anywhere. And, and frankly, I'm, I'm of the, I'm of the, the, the opinion at this point that there is no physical delineated, uh, coordinates, meaning And we're going to go over this in the next section of this presentation, meaning there is no physical location of United States.

21:29 It's never been published. It's never been clarified. That's what I think, but I could be wrong. I could be wrong. And it's in a filing cabinet somewhere. So we don't know, but it's interesting how like you have the, the capital letter state, but that's just paperwork. It's not a physical location, which is even hard for many to even digest. Yeah, we'll get into that later. The two different versions of each state. We'll get into that later, right? So, so the next thing is 42 USC 9102 subsection 18. Now, one of the things that people have asked me many times on, on, on shows that are live and stuff like that as they go, well, Brandon, if a corporation is a person, Then can a corporation be a United States citizen?

22:12 And you go online, you start typing this stuff in, and there's a lot of websites that are like, well, and they try to beat around the bush because, uh, they don't want to get people getting weird and asking too many questions. The answer to that question is yes, resoundingly. And you can see that in, um, 42 18, and then subsection C of subsection 18, uh, United States citizen means. And then if we go to C. Any corporation, partnership, association, or other entity organized or existing under the laws of the United States. Mm hmm. There it is. So, so, any corporation, partnership, association, or other entity is a person.

22:55 And those per sons, if they are organized or existing under the laws of the United States, those per sons as completely separate per sons from you are in themselves independently considered United States citizens. So your businesses, your S corps, your C corps, your LLCs, your partnerships, your associations, and your statutory trusts are all individually and independently from you and one another, all independently and individually United States citizens. Now we start getting into you as an subsection A of 42 U.

23:37 S. C. 9102, And this one says, uh, United States citizen means, A, any individual who is a citizen of the United States by law, birth, or naturalization. Law means contract. Birth, as far as I'm concerned, is up for a lot of debate. Uh, naturalization, in my opinion, you could just take out these words, pretty much. Uh, not quite, but pretty much and, and just have this one word and it would actually make a lot more sense and it would be a lot more workable and it'd be a lot less confusing. Do you ever go into when someone gets born, right? And you go to the doctor, the doctors is docking the birth, the vessel and all that, or is that just completely unnecessary?

24:25 Cause I feel like people, that's just a lot of wordplay that could be true, but you're just going down an unnecessary rabbit hole. It doesn't, it, it's not, it doesn't, who cares? It doesn't, I don't, I'm not here to talk about shit and, and, and jerk myself off. I'm here to actually get some things done. You know what I mean? So. I don't see the value in that information. Uh, it may or may not be true. I just don't care. And, and I think that Jordan Maxwell and one of these guys cared very much and they were trying to share information that they thought was going to be helpful. I'm not degrading anything that Jordan Maxwell has done. It's a, he's an excellent man with an excellent, uh, uh, teaching style and he has excellent information and he's a very grandfatherly and an excellent person and I love him to death, but I just don't see the point in it.

25:06 I don't see the value in it. And I don't see how, uh, I can take that information and put it to the ground, put the rubber to the ground with that necessarily. No, I get it. So, uh, so naturalization, that's, that's where we're at. So, so, so what do we have so far on a recap? We've got United States as a person. It's, uh, uh, located in the District of Columbia. We don't know where, uh, a United States citizen becomes, you know, a citizen of this unknown state called the United States through. What Brandon Joe Williams considers naturalization. Okay. Now the next question obviously is, well, what the hell is naturalization?

25:47 Um, and nobody knows. I've never had anyone ever, including when I do live speeches in front of an audience. Give me any definition that comes even remotely close to what the definition of naturalization is. Definition of naturalization comes from title 8, section 1, 1, uh, title 8 of the United States Code, section 1, 1, 0, 1, subsection A, 23. And here is the definition right here. And this is so, so like I said, there's two of the most powerful things you'll ever learn in law. Uh, number one is the definition of the word person and number two. Uh, and actually I would, I would go so far as to say is, is, is I'm not even sure this might be actually even more important than the definition of the word person, uh, but definitely of the two most important pieces of information you'll ever learn naturalization is definitely the number one or number two spot, uh, the term naturalization means the conferring of nationality.

26:47 Of a state upon a person after birth by any means whatsoever. And we're going to break down every single word inside this definition, because this one single definition, uh, can, can radically change your life. Uh, more than anything you've ever experienced in your entire life has ever changed your life. And, and this one definition can change the life. Of everyone around you and everyone you talk to more dramatically than almost anything that anyone has ever experienced in their entire life.

27:28 Um, I would like to add that there's a lot of people out there that take words for granted, have no idea what they mean. And it's very interesting how your background in research with words has played a key role in your ability to break this stuff down. Like you just said, is very important with these words. And when I have a conversation with people about this, we just toss around words all the time. And then when you try to go and find the definition, it's like, where do you go? And your source of definitions, it would have to be, because we're speaking legalese, it would have to be within the confines of the definitions within that language.

28:17 And where do you usually go? Or what's your most up to date, like, source? I go everywhere. I mean, that's, that's where all the fun happens, that's where all the excitement is, you know, I don't know. Um, I go all over the place. I go wherever I need to go to, uh, to get that, get that poppin I mean, whatever. I mean, that's, that's the whole, that's the fun of it. That's the, you know, that's the, uh, the, the Easter egg hunt. You know what I mean? Mm, mm. Yeah. Well, I mean, do you ever run into a situation where, like, the definitions are, like, slightly skewed and you just have to, like, decide which one?

28:58 Or is it more of like finding the source material? Because you're doing an Easter egg hunt, but how do you know which one's the right one? Well, you have to keep looking, and sometimes you gotta look inside of court cases, and you gotta keep looking, you gotta keep searching, you gotta look in normal dictionaries, and legal dictionaries, and multiple legal dictionaries, and there's certain words, like the word citizen, I've never really completely, fully nailed down that word, even though I've, I've tried for, on, on Godly amount of hours. I definitely, um, got a pretty good handle of it, but I don't feel like I've completed my research into the term citizen. Um, and I've worked on trying to complete that research.

29:40 I re enter the fray on trying to figure out the word citizen all the time. And, and I may move the ball down the field a few yards here and there. Um, I feel like 75 yard line when it comes to the word citizen. Um, and I, I got probably. You know, probably 70 hours clocked in just on that one word. Um, so, you know, it just depends on, uh, what you're looking at and what word you're looking at, the word, the words we're going to look at right now, nation and state and body politic, those took me quite a long time to figure out. Um, but yeah, it's just, it's all part of just piecing it all together in a way that makes sense and you just get all the pieces that you need and you might only get a few pieces now and then you get a few pieces later, like the word citizen, uh, I may be working on the word citizen for years without it being a completed project.

30:34 I don't know. Yeah. It sounds like there's a, there's a lot of context and, um, the core cases that you're talking about. Um, I agree. And those would be really good place, a good source for it just because it's proven. But um, I'll let you continue. Just very curious. Yeah, Black Slaw Dictionary is just a bunch of, uh, typically, not always, but it's a lot of quotes from old court cases. So really, really, Black Slaw Dictionary is just a bunch of, and that's why I laugh so hard when people are like, Oh, Black Slaw Dictionary, blah, blah, blah. Sovereign Citizen, blah, blah, blah. I always laugh because if you go on the, um, County recorder. If you go on any, that's the use they use, they use black's law and black's law is literally just case law.

31:15 A lot of it, not all of it. But so by saying black's law is a bunch of Huey, you're, you're, you're saying that the whole court system is a bunch of Huey, which I mean, whatever. Some people are saying that, but I don't, that's not, that's not the public I work for and work with. And I actually find all this information and a lot of the legal information to be extremely spiritual and philosophical. So I'm not in that boat, but anyways, um, I definitely want to go into Philosophical and spiritual part. If we have time. Oh yeah, definitely. Cool. So, uh, going back to eight USD one one zero one subsection eight 23 definition of naturalization. We have here the conferring of nationality of a state. Most people think that when they see the word state, they got that all figured out. Well, you don't.

31:55 Um, so the word state, uh, the definition of the word state and its largest sense, a state is a body politic or society of men, which is not a very good definition. Uh, body politic as a state or nation or public association, which is also not a very good definition. Society. We have an association or company of persons generally unincorporated United together by mutual consent in order to deliberate determine and act jointly for some common purpose In a wider sense the community or public the people in general. It's a better definition, but not really all that great And then I finally found this, the definition of the word nation coming from a court case.

32:37 And this is when things started to really make sense. Definition of nation, which also means body politic or state or society. They all mean the same thing. So we're going to be reading the definition for all of the above an independent body politic, a society of men united together for the purpose of promoting their mutual safety and advantage by the joint efforts of their combined strengths. But every combination of men who govern themselves independently of all others will not be considered a nation. A body of pirates, for example, who govern themselves are not a nation. To constitute a nation, another ingredient is required. The body that's formed must respect other nations in general.

33:18 And each of their members in particular. Such a society has her affairs and her interests. She deliberates and takes resolutions in common, thus becoming a moral person who possesses an understanding and will peculiar to herself and is susceptible of obligations and rights. And what does that mean? It's the same thing as the human body, uh, is composed of cells. So all the cells come together and they form this single unit called the body. And it's a single form, but it's made up of whatever billions and billions or whatever of cells, right? It's the same idea right now, the rule on an international law for a nation to be considered a nation is the nation has to have good internal tranquility and it has to share external help And not be something like a bunch of pirates that go around and just rape and pillage and take and destroy the lifestyle and the standard of living for others.

34:13 Uh, anyone going around and, and the mafia or pillaging and raping or damaging the, the standard of life for another, uh, does not have. the ability to legally classify themselves as a nation. The idea that a nation is a territory or a location is entirely false. And territory or location has absolutely nothing to do with the idea or definition of a nation or a state. Okay. So it's the most important word in here to really make sure you understand, cause most people see the word state and they just think, Oh, one of the 50 states. And that's. Not even remotely close to anything.

34:55 Um, if you go to the foreign affairs manual, eight fam 505. 2, which we can get into in more depth a little later. If you go down to, this is involving passport endorsements, which we can get into later. If you go down to passport endorsement code number 11, which is a diplomatic code for, uh, ambassadors at large. If you look at the example that they give you here, ambassador at large for global women's issues. It gives you more of an idea of what a nation actually is. Global women's issues is a nation and you can be an ambassador at large for that name.

35:36 Shun that nation does not have territory or location. Interesting. So going back to, um, eight USC one one zero one subsection a 23 definition of naturalization. Uh, by plugging in the word nation rather than the word state, uh, it makes a lot more sense and starts to clear up what they're actually saying here. Right. Then if we continue on, we see here that there's a blue, uh, clickable definition for the word person. Person is always going to be something fucking crazy. Uh, I don't care what area of law you're reading. Whenever you see the word person there, there, there's got to be 480, 000 alarm bells going off.

36:22 Cause you're, you gotta dive into. Every area of law has a different definition of the word person. Jeez. Person is the, the most chaotic, confusing and complicated thing basically ever. Okay. So we're going to click on this, uh, and we're going to see what does title eight say is the definition of the word person. The term person means an individual or an organization. Okay. So if we go down, um, there's also a special definition for the word organization. So we're going to find that real quick.

37:04 Um, the term organization means, but is not limited to, uh, an organization, corporation, company, partnership, association, trust, foundation, or fund, and includes a group of persons. Whether or not incorporated permanently or temporarily associated together with joint action on any subject or subjects. And what's funny is this, this, this definition basically means almost exactly the same definition as the word nation. Yeah. So an organization is a nation typically, right? It's all the same thing. Right. So if we go back to.

37:44 Um, that definition, right. And, and, and the smart people in the audience are, the next question is, okay, well, what's the definition of individual, uh, that, that's a tough, that's, that's another one that I have never completed my research on. That is a tough one. I've spent, I don't know how many hours trying to figure out the definition of the word individual. Uh, it is an extremely deep rabbit hole. Very, very complex. I'm not entirely sure, to be honest with you. Uh, there are a lot of people who believes that the word individual only includes legal fictions. And there are others who believe that the definition of the word individual includes men and women that are, that are inside of an actual physical human body.

38:31 Uh, I'm not too sure if it's one or the other, I'm not entirely positive. Uh, but anyways, the, the word person, right? So for the, for the purposes of this, I'll assume that the word person includes you as a, as a living man, but you know, I'm not so sure that's even real. So if we were to replace the word person here, uh, with the definition. So if I were to say, instead of person, if I were to say an individual or an organization, and if I were to replace the word state with the word nation, now you're going to start seeing that this is the one of the most, if not literally the single most powerful thing you could ever learn in all of law.

39:12 And it will change your life to such a dramatic degree. That, uh, this one definition alone could literally cure chronic illness. In my opinion, that's how powerful this definition is. Uh, if someone's sick because they're very overwhelmed by their life. Uh, this definition, uh, basically eviscerates almost all overwhelming aspects, uh, all financials, all, uh, taxation, uh, citizenship, nationality, uh, everything, uh, this, this is the, you can completely control, uh, legal situations. You can get involved in litigation and just absolutely obliterate corporations, companies, trusts, uh, the IRS.

39:59 doesn't stand a chance when you understand this definition. The EDD, Employment and Development Department, does not stand a chance when you understand this definition. The DMV, Department of Motor Vehicles, does not stand a chance when you understand this definition. Police don't stand a chance when you understand this definition. This is, this, this will make a superhero out of an individual almost instantaneously. Just this one definition, if you really, really understand. What it means. And when I started to try to understand what it means, I spent about 60 days just walking around and like a complete daze. I didn't really study much else. I was focused in on this one definition for probably about 60 days.

40:41 And I used to just walk for miles and miles a day in this, like, this just can't be, this just can't be this powerful. It just can't be this powerful kind of a mentality. And then finally, after about 60 days of chewing on it, when I finally realized, holy shit, this is, this is really what it is. Everything changed and everything has continued to change ever since and I have become a completely untouchable God in almost every area of my life, almost exclusively from this one definition of this one word and the word is naturalization, naturalization. Um, I'm having thoughts pop in and out when you were saying a lot of that because whether you're talking to a cop.

41:24 Or someone else. Some have told me, well, what happens if they don't know what you're talking about and who's going to enforce it? If no one knows what's going on. It doesn't matter when you get into the courtroom anyways, just, let's just read this. Sure. Sure. Let's read this. Now we're going to replace the word state with the word nation, and we're going to replace the word person with the definition straight from the definition, word for word, an individual or an organization. The term naturalization means the conferring of nationality of a nation upon an individual or an organization after birth by any individual.

42:08 means whatsoever. So now what does that mean? The IRS has two different classifications. They have a resident alien and a non resident alien, a resident alien lives in, or, or as a citizen of. United States. How do you become a resident of United States? If United States is a person and a corporation that is a state inside of a country called district of Columbia, and no one knows, I don't think where the actual location, size, shape, or coordinates of this state called United States is.

42:52 How do you get there? Remember from 42 USC, 9102, you get there by three ways by law, by birth or by naturalization, Brandon, Joe Williams believes that it's pretty much only this one way. And these two don't really make a lot of sense when you start to really dig into it, right? So if that's true, if my theory is true, then this is the only way you can become a resident alien to the person or nation called United States. So if you were to plug that into this definition, the way you would read it is the term naturalization means the conferring of nationality of the nation called United States, which is a person.

43:39 Located God knows where inside of a foreign country called District of Columbia. After birth, by any means whatsoever. And as far as I'm concerned, that's the only way you can actually become a citizen or resident alien of the nation, or per son, called United States. So Make you jump through all these hoops when So the thing is, is that Yeah, so the thing is, is that basically, is that basically These places don't have a physical location. And the way that you get there is by simply saying that you are there.

44:20 So when you tell the IRS, I am not a resident, I am a non resident alien. And I actually live in, I'm actually, uh, Uh, confer the nationality of South Africa upon myself and my businesses and my trusts and my estates and my partnerships and my associations and my companies after birth by any means whatsoever. What's happening is when you do that, when you say that you instantaneously all of your corporations, companies, trust, partnerships, associations, companies, and corporations, including yourself, all instantaneously move and are physically and legally located in South Africa. Now the same thing on the side of the row of the police officer.

45:02 Uh, you don't hand them a driver's license because the driver's license states that you are, you've stated under penalty of perjury, that you are a resident of whatever state the driver's license was issued in. So you would never give them a driver's license. You'd give them something like a passport, which does not do that. Passport is not a naturalization document. And they say, where do you live or where do you work? I, I am not a resident of state of California. I do not domicile in state of California. I'm just driving through the state of California. I have no residence. Oh, okay. What are you? What are you a resident of? I'm a resident of Antarctica. I'm a resident of France. I'm a resident of, uh, New Zealand. Now what happens is when the, when those words come out of your mouth.

45:46 I am a, I live in New Zealand. What's happening is in that moment, you are actively legally naturalizing into New Zealand. Interesting. You are conferring with the police officer live on the side of the road and his body cam footage becomes proof of naturalization. So what I would do is I would file a FOIA request. To get copies of that video. And I would say on the body cam footage of the police officer is evidence that I have naturalized into New Zealand live during the traffic stop.

46:30 If you are not a resident of any of the 50 states. Then you are not contracted into, in California, what is called the California Vehicle Code. If you are not contracted into the California Vehicle Code, the police officer does not have the right to, to draw up a micro lawsuit for breach of contract called a citation or ticket. This is after, you, you do this after you change your status. You can do the, the, the idea of changing status for most people that don't understand is very, very, uh, uh, static. And the more and more I've studied this, it's actually very, very fluid.

47:12 You can naturalize right away. You can naturalize 500 million times per hour. I can naturalize you. I could naturalize your companies. I could say, I could find out your company is called, uh, you know, uh, uh, you know, happy, happy cash incorporated. And I can say, uh, I hereby confer the nationality of France on happy cash incorporated right now after birth. By any means whatsoever. Happy cash incorporated is a per son. So unless you actively fight against and negate that idea of me attempting to naturalize your corporation, your corporation is now legally, physically located in France, even though you have nothing to do with it.

48:04 It doesn't matter. Does it say conferring of nationality of a state upon yourself and Organizations that you own or control or are trustee of. No, it doesn't say that. So the government can confer nationality upon you. They can say that you were in city of Glendale. And if you don't rebut that assumption, they just naturalized you into city of Glendale. They can say that you are in state of California. If you don't, I would jump all over them. Whoa, objection. Trying to naturalize me. I see what you're trying to do.

48:45 Ain't going to happen there, bucko. I do not, I am not a resident, nor do I live in state of California, which is a business located on Dun and Bradstreet. It's listed as a business. I am not a member of a citizen of, I am not a resident of state of California, city of Glendale County of Los Angeles, or any of these other things that are whatsoever. And they go, Oh yeah, you are blah, blah, blah. And then you say, Oh, I see. So what you're attempting to do is you're attempting to, to force me through into, uh, involuntary servitude, uh, violating the 13th amendment. And you're also violating article 15, subsection two of the UN declaration of human rights, which is an international human rights violation.

49:30 Do I have that correct? And they get very nervous, very nervous. Would you like me to report your activities to Interpol? They get very nervous, very nervous. The thing is, is that it's all voluntary. It's all contractual. You live in city of Glendale or county of Los Angeles or state of California only and exclusively through agreement. When you start to study how residency, residency laws work, for example, in the state of California in the state of California, residency is established through three different means.

50:12 One, a driver's license to voter registration. Three, the paying of state taxes. If you don't have a driver's license, you don't have voter registration and you don't pay state tax. The only possible way they can establish residency is by attempting to naturalize you, meaning attempting to confer nationality of State of California upon you after birth by any means whatsoever, and then you not rebutting it. If you rebut it, and you don't have paid state taxes, or a driver's license, or voter registration, there's absolutely fucking nothing they can do.

50:53 They cannot establish residency. If they can't establish residency, they cannot contractually connect you into what is called the California Vehicle Code. If they can't contractually connect you into what is called the California Vehicle Code, they physically cannot write a citation or ticket on anything you do. Well, that's if they know what they're doing. No, because if you go into a court of law and you fight this, you will win and you can countersue. And you can take the officer's badge and you can go after the police station. You can go after the training Academy. You can go after everybody. And then the, my, my thought with that is I can see people saying, well, do I really have to do all that?

51:42 Like, is there, um, like when you step into this world, you have no choice, but to learn legalese yet. Because if you want to exercise your. Your god given rights and freedoms You're gonna need to defend them and do you feel like people in the beginning right now are going to need to constantly take people to court and Then that will slowly. Well, here's the issue. There's two different. There's two different versions of each state So when people say how many states are there in the in the United States? Let me ask you how many states are there in the United States 50 that is entirely incorrect There is 101 states in the United States.

52:22 Do you know what they are? No. Enlighten us. So there's two versions of every single state, and then the last one, the 101, is the District of Columbia. So the, the, the two versions of each state, one is not incorporated and has its own constitution. For example, the constitution of the pre 14th amendment version of California was written and published in 1848 and still exists and is still fully functional to this day. That's the one that I live under. There's a secondary, uh, constitution that was created for the incorporated version of state of California, which is an entirely separate nation.

53:06 That particular incorporated, uh, constitution was created in 1879 and then was later repealed and I believe 1960. So you have two different nations. One has an active. Constitution and the other one technically does not. And you have to realize that when you are naturalizing or conferring the nationality of a nation upon yourself as an individual, quote unquote, or one of your persons, such as a state, a trust, a partnership, an association, a company, a corporation, uh, you, you have to be very, very careful because which of those two states or nations are you naturalizing into.

53:54 99. 99 or maybe even a probably a hundred percent Of every single person that's naturalizing all the time without knowing it is actually naturalizing into the incorporated version of state of California and the incorporated version of state of California does not have a constitution and the incorporated version of state of California. If, if the, if the United States as a, as a, as a nation, uh, is a federal corporation located in the district of Columbia, where do you think? The, the, the corporation called the state of California is located same spot.

54:39 It's in the district of Columbia. So when you naturalize into the unincorporated version of California, you have the, uh, United States constitution. Uh, so the second amendment is yours. First amendment, fifth amendment, ninth amendment. All these things are yours, and then you also have the original, uh, 1848 constitution. It's also yours, and everything is active. And actually, even to this day, even in the court system, they actually follow this information. Now, if you are a U. S. citizen, or a resident alien, or if you have naturalized into the corporation called State of California, which is done through a driver's license, or through voter registration, registering for voter registration, Uh, then, then you don't live in California, you live in a foreign nation called the state of California, which is a sub state of the country called the District of Columbia, that particular state.

55:36 State of California doesn't have a constitution and the U S constitution, the first amendment, second amendment, fifth amendment, ninth amendment does not apply in a foreign incorporated country called district of Columbia, which is not actually legally a part of the United States of America. Makes sense. So when you naturalize all the time, you don't realize it, but what's happening is, is you are naturalizing into the district of Columbia. Yeah. All the time. Every time you say you're a U S citizen, you are naturalizing into the district of Columbia. Every single time you pay taxes, federal or state, you are locking in the idea that you are naturalizing into the district of Columbia.

56:26 Whenever you get a driver's license or renew a driver's license or present a driver's license, you are naturalizing into the district of Columbia. Every time you vote or register to vote or adjust. Or change without, without eliminating your voter registration. You are naturalizing into the district of Columbia. There's only one right. And this comes from the Supreme court directly. It's on my website. There's only one right that a U S citizen or individual that is naturalized into the district of Columbia has only one. Do you know what that right is? Go for it. To residents inside of the district of Columbia.

57:09 That is the only right that a U S citizen has. To residents inside of the District of Columbia. So the Constitution has nothing to do with that has absolutely nothing to do with you You don't have a Constitution You don't have a state Constitution and you don't have a federal Constitution if you're a US citizen which makes sense because there's a lot of times you Have these conversations Political conversations. You're like, they're not listening to what we're asking. And it comes down to, they're not, they don't need to, because you have no rights because you're a U S citizen. Well, that's why they can't tell you you're a U S citizen. They have to ask you, and then you have to tell them, got it.

57:50 Naturalization, power, naturalization. That's correct. Naturalization. So when you start to really, really understand the definition of the word naturalization, and then obviously the definition of the word person as well, uh, just that alone. Can, can begin to everything in your life, you become a vapor. I mean, there's no way to pin you down. And if they can't pin you down, they can't, they can't contractually obligate you into any body of law. I could live in, in Africa and then five seconds later, I'm gone and I'm in the other side of the earth. And then it starts to get even more crazy because the definition of the word state or nation, uh, You could just make one up.

58:34 Like for example, I've made up my own called the nation of the Amnesty coalition, so I'll bounce in and out of the 50 established states, and then I'll bounce out the second I need to, I'm gone. I disappear. I vanish. And now I'm in the nation of the Amnesty coalition on paper on paper. And I could do that thousands of times a day. And why, can you give an example of why you would do that? Because it sounds like that's a, you can't get sued. You can't, you can't get tickets. You can't nothing. There's nothing. There's absolutely nothing that can happen to you. You, you are literally a vapor. You're outside of the jurisdiction.

59:15 Once you jump inside of your own nation. Well, it's way beyond jurisdiction. I mean, you are literally a vapor. How can you, how can you imprison a vapor? Think about that. You can't, you can't imprison a vapor. I can see you in the court. How can you imprison a vapor? Yeah. Just like, what's he like? You can't see. Yeah. There's no way that you can do anything to somebody who understands the definition of the word naturalization. It's physically impossible. Hmm. That's like you're smoking gun nationalization. That's naturalization. Huh? Yeah. So, so with that said.

59:57 We start getting into the definition of what everybody's talking about. And this is, that was all kind of like the preamble, right? Yeah. Now we start getting into this whole thing. People are talking about the national state, national, all this stuff. Okay. Now, yeah. So we start getting into eight USC one one zero one subsection a 22. This is all this little area right here. 21, 22, and 23 of eight USC one one zero one subsection a. Okay. Is just the craziest and most powerful thing ever. Uh, so what do we have here? 21 says the term national means a person owing permanent allegiance to a state.

1:00:37 Same thing, uh, we're gonna go here and click on permanent. Uh, this word doesn't mean anything, you're gonna laugh. Uh, the term permanent means a relationship of continuing or lasting nature. As distinguished from temporary, but a relationship may be permanent, even though it is one that may be dissolved eventually at the instance, either of the United States or of the individual in accordance with law. So we just remove this word. It's just a joke. It's an oxymoron. It doesn't, it doesn't have any meaning. It's to scare you. It's to scare you. So, so, so we replace state with nation, we remove the word permanent, and we replace person with an individual or an organization. We reread this. Also notice the word national is not capitalized. Very interesting, right? The term national means an individual or an organization owing allegiance to a nation.

1:01:24 Now here's the next question. Does a person have to reside inside of or live inside of a physical location in order to pledge allegiance to that place or location? Nope. The answer is no. So the nationality has nothing to do with physical location, whereas citizenship does typically, right? So a national is a individual or an organization that owes allegiance to a nation. So for example, your work, you are actually legally a national of your job. You are a national of your family, typically, if you have a decent relationship with your family.

1:02:08 Uh, you are a national, uh, let's say you're a part of like a lion's club or, or a public speaking or a chess club or an online call of duty clan, something like that. You would be a national of that particular online call of duty clan. Okay, legally, I'm not kidding. So if you become a, if you, if, if you moving on to the next part here. If you, if you happen to be an individual or an organization, or, or if you are going to do this on behalf of an, another individual or organization, which you can do it on literally anybody you could, you could, you could naturalize the CEO of Starbucks right now, if you want it to.

1:02:54 If the CEO of Starbucks does not rebut your attempt to naturalize him, then he is legally naturalized wherever it is that you say he's, you could move the CEO of Starbucks into France. Legally, if you sued Starbucks and you put a, a, a, a statement of naturalization in the lawsuit and it, and it did not, it did not get rebutted. If they did not respond in opposition to that statement, then legally within the confines of that lawsuit, the CEO of Starbucks would be physically and legally, uh, a, uh, uh, a resident of the country called France. Now in, in, in, uh, eight U ussc 1 10, 1 subsection A 22, we start getting into what everyone's talking about.

1:03:40 Now, if an individual or an organization. States or, or, or pledges, allegiance to the nation called United States. They become a national of the United States. Eight ussc 1, 1, 0, 1 Subsection A, 22. Now, national of the United States means two things, one of two things. A, a citizen of the United States, which basically means employee, an employee of the United States. Or B, a person who, though not an employee of the United States, owes allegiance to the United States.

1:04:28 So we have, we have a few terms here. If you go to, uh, 22 CFR 51. 2, you'll start to see that the passport, Is issued. And then what's funny is you go to the passport office and they think that passports are only issued to us citizens. Hilarious. Totally false. That must be a fun conversation. They're there. They're very, very, uh, confused and upset by, by, by all of us. Yes. A passport may be issued only to a U S national. Now, as far as I can tell the term U S national and national of the United States is referring to the same thing.

1:05:10 So you can say the term U S national means blah, and you can say the term national of the United States means blah. And you'll see that the word national is not capitalized. The word United is capitalized, and the word States is capitalized. Okay? Now, what, so, so, so, but then you go on the, the, uh, let's see here. So, so we, we've already seen that 22 So, a passport may be issued only to a U. S. national or. National of the United States. And you can see that echoed and even more clearly, this really rips the skull off of passport people.

1:05:52 It's so fucking funny. You could, you could get someone to emotionally melt down right there in the fucking office, you shown this one. 22 USC 2 1 2 no passport shall be, uh, uh, granted or issued to, or verified for any other persons than those owing allegiance, whether citizens or not to the United States, right? And that this is another way of saying the exact same thing as what they're saying here. Uh, the term national of the United States means a citizen of the United States or be a person who though not a citizen of the United States, I was permanent allegiance to the United States. Back over to 22, uh, USC two two.

1:06:33 No passport shall be granted or issued to or verified for any other per sons. Then those owing allegiance, whether citizens or not to the United States. And then going back to 22 CFR 51 point 0.2, a passport may be issued only to a US National. So those three sections all come together to show you. That that's how this works now. So having a passport and unknowingly calling yourself a U S citizen, because you have a passport and because they can only be issued to American nationals. You know, it's not really a, the terminology is very critical, right?

1:07:15 So an American national is, is a bit of a confusing, it's confusing, right? You have, you have the term U S national. You could be, I am a national of the amnesty coalition, the nation of the amnesty coalition. I am a national of the, uh, the micronation called slow Jamistan, which is on the screen right now. I'm actually a member of parliament. If you scroll down, you will see me right here. So, so the thing is, is the pickle. There you go. I am a national, which means somebody who has, who has pledged allegiance to a nation of three different nations.

1:08:00 One is the nation of the amnesty coalition, which is this website here, the amnesty coalition. org. Um, you can see here, here's me. Um, and I tell you right here. While I am an ambassador at large wanting to help all nations of the world, I have specifically pledged qualified allegiance to three different nations, making me a tri national. I am a non citizen national and proud ambassador of all three of these incredible nations. One, the Amnesty Coalition. Two, the Republic of Slojamistan. Three, the United States of America. In terms of my relationship with the United States of America, I am a non citizen national as defined in 8 U. S. C. 1101, subsection A, 22B.

1:08:43 So where is that? 8 U. S. C. subsection A 22 B. A person who, though not a citizen of the United States, owes permanent allegiance to the United States. And you'll see that. So, so a U. S. national could be A or B. A or B, a national of the United States could be a or B. But if you look at the I nine employment eligibility verification form from the U S CIS, they have a different terminology, which is my favorite, a non citizen national of the United States.

1:09:31 Now this terminology right here. Is referring to only and exclusively subsection B, a non citizen national of the United States. So when you say, I am a national of, of what? I am a national of the United States. Okay. Does that mean you're a citizen or, or a non citizen national? If you say, I am a U S national. Okay. Does that mean you're a citizen? Or does that mean that you're a non citizen national? When you say I am a non citizen national, then you say, okay, of what?

1:10:12 A non citizen national of the United States. Bingo. Got it. A non citizen national of France, a non citizen national of the nation of the Amnesty Coalition, a non citizen national of New Zealand, a non citizen national of Australia, a non you see what I mean? A non citizen national of Canada, somebody who's not a citizen, but has pledged allegiance to Canada. So non citizen meaning unincorporated. Non citizen means non employee. Okay. Okay. A non employee, uh, allegiance giver of the United States.

1:11:00 A non employee allegiance giver of France. Non A non employee allegiance giver of Antarctica. Now, keep in mind, all of the 50 States are all independent nations as well. If you go back in history, uh, Alaska as a nation, California is a nation. New Mexico is a nation. The same way that the European union is a whole bunch of nations. And then they have one super nation called the European union. America is the same thing. The problem is, is that that's only on the unincorporated side. On the incorporated side, they're pretty much all just one big incorporated nation. Uh, that's why the federal courts are typically higher on the spectrum than the state courts, but in the unincorporated world, the original pre 1871 world, uh, California is a nation and that nation's, uh, constitution comes from 1848 and that 1848 constitution is still completely active, even in On 4 13 p.

1:12:03 m. Pacific Standard Time on July 21st of 2024. Got it. Are we at the end of the presentation? No. So, so what happens is now we start getting into proof on this. People are like, oh, this is all bullshit and blah, blah, blah. Okay. Yeah. Where's the proof? Show me the money. Easy. We've got two spots, eight U. S. C. 1401 and 18 U. S. C. 1408. So we'll start with 18 U. S. C. 1401 nationals and citizens of the United States. It doesn't say the United States because the United States is a person, nationals and citizens of person called United States at birth.

1:12:49 Okay, the following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth. Eight U. S. C. 1408. Unless otherwise specified in blah, the following shall be nationals, but not citizens of the United States at birth. Let's go one step farther. Take a look at what is the name of title eight. People think that it's citizenship and nationality. The word citizenship is nowhere to be found. Click on title eight. You don't see it. Where is citizenship?

1:13:30 It's not there. It's not there. It's two completely different subjects. Citizenship is governmental employment. Nationality is the conferring of allegiance, pledging allegiance makes you a national working as an employee makes you a citizen. Okay. A U. S. citizen is an employee of the corporation, the federal corporation located in the District of Columbia. A non citizen national of the United States is somebody who is not an employee of the corporation called United States, but has pledged allegiance to the corporation called United States or United States of America.

1:14:18 And you say to yourself, well, I don't want to pledge allegiance to the United States. Well. The way that we do it is we write our own custom Pledge of Allegiance. And what's funny is they never have a problem with it. Never once have we ever had an issue. You can write your own custom Pledge of Allegiance, and they will accept it. I'm not even sure they read the goddamn thing, to be honest with you. Because they just accept you could put on there, fuck you, and send a dick pic in and they'll accept it. I'm serious. It's crazy. And on that sheet, that pledge is basically what you're pledging. Specifically, you're pledging allegiance. So what is, what is your allegiance? What are you, what, what it's like the pledge of allegiance that we read in high school, but you can write your own pledge of allegiance.

1:15:00 If the corporation called the United States accepts your pledge of allegiance, you, you are a non citizen national of the United States. Congratulations. You are eligible for a passport. Even if you just moved in last week, you could live, you could live in a cave in Antarctica. It makes no difference. You can still do the process. Without the paperwork, without all that stuff. Now, if you think you're going to live in a cave in Antarctica and you're going to go and get the department of state to issue you a passport as a non citizen national without having to litigate, that's not going to happen. But if you're willing to, to litigate and bang down their door, they have to issue you a passport. They don't have a choice and we can start getting into 22 CFR 51.

1:15:44 3. We start getting into types of passports. We have a regular passport, which, oh my gosh, shockingly. Regular passport is issued to a national of the United States. Oh my god. The word citizen is nowhere to be found. How, how fascinating. Um A service passport, official passport, or a diplomatic passport. Those are the four types. And then we have the passport card. Uh, if you look at the DS 11 passport application form, uh, you'll start to see something now all of a sudden, now that we've been covering all this, that may kind of catch your eye a little bit. Something that you may have never noticed previously.

1:16:24 Uh, on the upper right hand side of the first page of the area that you are clearly supposed to fill out. There are areas that are very, very clearly in gigantic blue lines and, and a whole different thing. And it's not in this kind of tan, orangey color area. We have a section on the first page and the second page, which is very clear. That you are not to write in these areas. The, the orange yellow areas are very, very clear. These are the areas that you are the one who is supposed to fill out. On the upper right hand side of the form, we have four boxes. Ironically, what do we have? We have four types of passport. D diplomatic, O official, S service.

1:17:07 NFR is no fee regular. If we go to eight foreign affairs manual 505. 2, and we start looking at the passport endorsement page again, so we were looking at earlier and we scroll down, we will see that same information. Almost. There's a few subcategories duplicated here. D means diplomatic, O means official, N or NFR means no fee regular. And then we have S means service. Now, below that on the DS11, we have E N D period space pound space line. E N D means E N D O R S E M E N T endorsements.

1:17:51 They're asking you of all these different special cool codes, like for example, ambassador at large, or the bear is a United States national and not a United States citizen, which is Oh nine. They're asking you what kind of endorsement codes would you like to have? They're not supposed to fill this out. You are. They're asking you, do you want a passport book? Do you want a passport card? Or do you want both? And then if you do want the book, do you want a regular book or a large book? And then they're asking you, do you want a diplomatic official service? No fee regular.

1:18:31 And then what kind of endorsement code would you like? And I don't know what the hell this is. E X P for all I know. They're asking you, when would you like this passport to expire? I honestly have no fucking clue what that one is. Uh, to this day, I have no idea, but I would assume, uh, you know, as shocking as everything is, I would assume that they're asking you when you'd like your passport to expire. I really don't know what else to say about that. Uh, anyways, so. This is your window shopping, 8FAM505. 2 where you can go window shopping and you can figure out what kind of passport do you want and what type of endorsement would you like.

1:19:12 And they're gonna tell you, oh, blah, blah, blah, use only when authorized by CAPPTSA. I've never seen any information anywhere and it's literally right in there and it asks you which one you want and I guarantee you if you do some light litigation, which I have never done or seen anyone else do, there's no way they can stop you from getting whatever you want. 8FAM505. 2 Now they are going to stop you if you're not willing to litigate. Don't say no. And that can only be done by CAPPT, whatever. I've tried emailing CAPPT, whatever the fuck, they never respond to anything. I'm not even sure they're real. I don't even know what it is. So if you'd like a diplomatic passport or an official passport or a service passport or if you'd like special endorsements and you're willing to do a bit of litigation, I am, I am of a pretty strong theoretical opinion that you can get literally anything you want issued to you.

1:20:00 And what's more crazy is that every single person can get, uh, one type of all four passports. So for example, I live most of my life out of private irrevocable trusts. I have four or five of them. I could get four different types of passport for every single one of my trusts. So I can go in here and say name, and I can say name of my trust, Brandon Joe Williams Trust. Uh, you know, last name would be Trust, uh, or you could say Williams Trust.

1:20:44 Uh, and then you would say Brandon Joe Williams Trust. And they go, oh, we don't, we don't give passports to, to, uh, to, um, uh, trusts or corporations. And you just laugh. Literally like spitting, laughing so hard right in the face because that is falsely untrue in all these areas, including 22 U. S. C. 212. No passport shall be verified or issued to any other per sons. The title eight definition of the word per son or per sons is an individual or an organization.

1:21:30 The definition of organization could be incorporated or unincorporated. You don't even need a corporated corporation. It could just be you and your buddies and you have a clan on, on call of duty and it could be called, uh, you know, uh, killer clan, uh, best killer clan. And it can be best. Killer client trust or, or whatever, or, or organization. 'cause the def, the definition of the word organization means it could be incorporated or unincorporated. If you go back to, uh, eight USC 1, 1, 0, 1, uh, subsection A, uh, a 28.

1:22:27 The term organization means, but is not limited to an organization corporation. Now check this out means, but is not limited to, you could fight that in court to not limited to, so they're saying even beyond all this, which is super ultra vague because it even says here, whether or not incorporated. So whether or not incorporated, plus this isn't even the limiting definition. So what does that mean? It means everything is an organization. So who qualifies for a passport?

1:23:08 Anything qualifies for a passport. And the only reason to get a passport is identification and being able to I guess identification at this point and then based off of the type of passport, it's just different types of things you can do because you're saying there's like four or five of types of passports and I'm Guessing based off of your contract killer course you're referencing 3 star 4 star and 5 star that's pretty much the diplomat in the service and I think the other one is officer, right? Yeah, you have the diplomatic, you have the service, you have the officer, and then you have the, uh, the regular.

1:23:52 Regular is the one that almost everybody has. A regular passport is issued to a national of the United States. Got it. So, technically, you wouldn't have to get another passport when you start Working your life as a non citizen national of the United States, because now you're going to have more freedoms if you do that. Correct? Well, you could leave all your own shit alone and you can go out and litigate against the Department of State and you can confer the nationality of United States upon a person. Let's say you own the Los Angeles Lakers. You can confer.

1:24:35 allegiance to the United States on behalf of the organization called Los Angeles Lakers. And you can attach that certificate of naturalization to a DS 11 form and you can fill it out like this, Los Angeles Lakers organization. Now I've never, ever, ever seen anyone do this. I'm not sure if it's ever happened, but I'm telling you they will deny it. I'm telling you if you litigate. They don't have a choice. They will have to issue a passport and it'll have your picture on it as the agent on behalf of the person called Los Angeles Lakers organization.

1:25:15 And the name on the passport will say Los Angeles Lakers organization. And where it says social security number. You're going to go to the IRS and you're going to get an EIN number for Los Angeles Lakers organization. And you're going to type that EIN number. The EIN number is nine digits, same as a social security number, into this section of the form. The social security number of Los Angeles Lakers organization will be the EIN number. Because yeah, I'm trying not to get lost here, but I feel like when I asked that we went into Somewhere's where now it's beyond me Yeah, but I have a gist of what you're saying.

1:25:57 You legit just an organization is a person that a person Passports are issued to persons. It's that simple. But why would I want the Lakers organization to have a passport? What's the benefit of that? Why not? I don't know. I Don't know why not You could get clever and you could put on here, um, uh, international, uh, uh, uh, diplomatic, uh, association organization. Imagine having a passport that said that and had your picture on it.

1:26:40 If you open up a trust, well, actually, it doesn't even need to be a trust. It could be, you know, Uh, unincorporated, it could be even above and beyond the definition found in, uh, at USC one one zero one subsection eight 28. It could be anything. You could just make this up and say, Oh, me and my friends, you know, we're online. We have a, a forum on Reddit and we talk about what it means to be a diplomat in various countries of the world. Okay, boom. You have an organization as per title eight definition, that organization is entitled to a passport. That's crazy. Okay. I'm I'm ready to go next. What's after this? I'm like, all right, I don't even know what to do next after that.

1:27:22 So, so usually this is the part of the presentation when I get into, uh, taxes, which is very simple now, now we've figured all that out. Taxes is such a fucking joke. Uh, 26 CFR 1. 871 dash one classification and manner of taxing alien individuals. Now, by the way, the word alien means foreigner, and they always use the word alien, even when they use the word resident. Which is kind of confusing. So what the term resident alien means is foreigner who is staying here temporarily. Makes sense. And the reason why you start going far enough down this rabbit hole and, and, and there's on paper, no one lives in the district of Columbia.

1:28:03 They only work there. And that's why it's resident alien. You can't, you can't physically live in Washington, DC. You can only work there. And, and you're, you're, if you, if you, let's say you have a home in Washington, DC, the way that works is it's sort of like, um, it's like a temporary home that you have just for like visiting or just for like business purposes. Like you don't, it's not really like a home in law. That's why it's resident alien temporary visitor who is a foreigner. That's how you would say this term in English.

1:28:43 Okay. For purposes of the income tax, alien or foreign individuals, because everyone is a foreign individual. They don't say alien and domestic. They don't say alien and non alien. They say alien. Everyone is an alien, you see. For purposes of the income tax, alien individuals, which is everyone, are divided generally into two classes, namely resident aliens and non resident aliens. Thank you. So taking that same terminology, we have somebody who is, who is temporarily, uh, here or joining us in this, uh, state called the United States, which no one can define where it's at, but they are foreigners.

1:29:24 So they're going to be here just for a little while. They're going to leave. They, they are not living here or permanent, permanent domicile here or anything. That's option one. Option two is, uh, foreigners who aren't here. That's literally all not resident alien is a foreigner. Who's not here. That's it. It's a foreigner who's here or a foreigner who's not here. How do you get there? Testing you. How do you get where? I mean, it's hard to get anywhere. You, you nationalize, naturalize, naturalize, naturalize. It's the only way you can get there. You can't get there any other way.

1:30:05 If I drive through Washington DC and I zigzag up and down the entire Washington DC. How would you know that you were ever in the sub state of Washington, DC called United States? If you don't know where it is, you don't know what shape it is, and you don't know how large it is or the coordinates of it. How would you know you were ever at any point in time? How would you know? Let's say you drove through Washington, DC all day. Every day up and down and zigzagged and you had a, a motorcycle or a dirt bike, and you can go all through the parks and you can go all through the roads and you could, and the, and the capitol building was just whatever.

1:30:46 And you're, you're on the motor, you're on the dirt bike, and you're, and you're going through the, the capitol, uh, you're tearing up the yard and you. for for two 48 hours straight and you zigzag and there's a map on Google Maps and it's just got lines and dots and it's just the whole thing is like just filled with all the the the motion and traveling and all. How would you know? If at any point in time you were in, traveling through, or contacted the sub state of the country of the District of Columbia called United States. You wouldn't know. You would have to say you were because it's not a physical spot.

1:31:27 There's no other way you can get there. The only way you can get there is naturalization. You can't get there in the physical world. It is physically impossible to contact. It cannot be physically contacted. So that being said, a resident alien and a non resident alien, in my mind, are I understand that as, let's say I have family outside of, now it's like I got to watch how I'm saying things, but for the purposes of someone who doesn't understand what's going on, they have a family that lives, you know, out of the country, out of the physical country.

1:32:08 Then they're visiting the physical country and they're visiting, let's say, California. That person didn't, wait, wait, didn't nationalize themselves, right? Not, they did not naturalize themselves. So therefore they are. A non resident alien and myself who has naturalized myself unknowingly am in a resident alien, and that's why you have the green cards for the residency and all that. You've got it. Non citizen nationals don't have green cards. Correct. So, so resident alien individuals are in general taxable the same as citizens, which means employees of the United States, which means a corporation located, God knows where.

1:32:57 Correct. So if I reread that, resident alien individuals are in general taxable, the same as employees of the federal corporation, that is a resident alien is taxable on income derived from all sources, including sources without, which means outside of the federal corporation. Now the word income is hilarious too. You, it can't be defined. So, so I'm not going to get into that. I'm not going to get into that now. That's a whole nother rabbit hole. The word income is completely undefinable. And if I click on it, you'll even see whenever you start to see shit like this, where it goes on and on and on and on and on, and it makes no sense.

1:33:39 You got to realize you're, you're, you're, you're starting to nail, you're starting to pound up against something that they don't know. And they're trying to smoke screen it out. And then if you go back, you'll see another one here. If we click on non resident alien, this one's going to make you laugh. Look at the definition of the term non resident alien. I was on the fucking floor when I first saw this, sorry. Wait, hold on. Wait, did they change it? Oh my God. They changed it. Holy shit. Hold on. Hold on. Sitting. Oh, no. There we go. Okay. The screen's small. Uh Non resident alien? It says definition letter J. Non resident alien. That's the definition. That is ridiculous.

1:34:21 But this one's a little different. It is what it is. B1B. Yeah, see how confusing that is? So, so when you start seeing shit like this Ooh, boy! But now what's funny is you can take this. Let's say the IRS sues you. That it's very easy to handle. You'll, you'll, anyone who winds up in a court, when you start to understand how all this stuff works, you fuck something up really bad. I mean, when you understand how this stuff works, you will never see the inside. I mean, you've got to really fuck things up to get in the inside of a course or a courtroom, honestly. There's no, nothing to pretty much worry about if you don't do anything crazy.

1:35:02 Well, doing people think that everything I do is crazy, but, but, but the thing is, is that everything I do is actually, I've never, I am probably the, the most legal individual walking the earth in relationship to the United States legal system, like literally, uh, there's probably not a single person walking the that is even close to, uh, as, as, as, as well. Uh, uh, coordinated as well, uh, integrated into the legal system in the, in the, the, the highest caliber of, of, of legality and, and, um, then, then, then me literally, I mean, I'm, I'm people laugh and they say I'm a rebel when I'm actually the ultimate conformer, the irony, because you know, A lot more of what's actually going on.

1:35:57 And so you, you're like, I'm actually playing by the rules better than most. I played by the I I'm like, uh, I'm like a nerd. I'm like reading the entire rule book over and over and over and looking at the definition of every single word bleed level. Yeah. So going down, this is the part that usually irritates people. And this is what everyone in America has done. Right. However. Non resident alien individuals, and the word individual, like I said, is, is, is, this is the definition of individuals. Individuals. An individual is not a QBU, which me and my buddy Joe Lustig, we did a show once and we were looking this up and we were laughing so hard, we were in tears, we couldn't even, we couldn't even finish the show, we were laughing so hard, we couldn't even find the definition of Q, literally, what you're looking at is, is, you're looking at, we don't want to define this, because if we define this, we're fucked.

1:36:58 That's what you're looking at, right? So, so, so, so knowing that the word individuals is extremely up in the air, people think that means. Men and women walk around in, in flesh bodies in the physical world. Seems like a filler word. Just a filler. Yeah. It's, it's, you'd be surprised, you'd be surprised. You start going down this rabbit hole. So, however, non-resident alien individuals. So, so what is this definition of non-resident alien individuals? If I had to say it would be, it'd be foreign nations or, or god knows what that, that are not. naturalized into the federal corporation called the United States.

1:37:40 As others may elect to be treated as a U. S. residence for purposes of determining their income tax liability. Now, as far as I'm concerned, this is the tax code version of naturalization. Again, naturalization is the craziest shit. What they're saying here is that people who are not inside of this unlocatable corporate zone called the United States, which is located in the District of Columbia, may confer the nationality of This unlocatable location inside of the corporation called District of Columbia upon an individual, which is undefinable, or an organization such as an estate, a trust, a company, corporation, partnership, or association.

1:38:35 And if they do that, they're essentially electing that per son, whether it be in a state, a trust, a corporation, or an individual, which is undefinable. To be a resident of this unlocatable nation called the United States for the purpose of determining their income tax liability. So, so, so taking all of that, which I know is a little bit confusing, uh, uh, and simplifying it down to Beavis and Butthead second grade, you volunteered. You volunteered. Makes sense. You volunteered by saying that you're there or saying that you, you want to do it or by filing a tax return. You volunteered. So if you don't want to pay taxes, you un volunteer. And how do you un volunteer?

1:39:16 And, and I have documents, and I have, I have a very simple rule. Don't send in things you don't understand. Sending in things you don't understand is extremely, extremely stupid. Very, very stupid. All these documents are all free. Resources and documents at TheMSDCoalition. org. You're gonna scroll down. Revocation of election to be treated as a resident alien for the purpose of determining your income tax liability. This is an affidavit. You are going to read this affidavit, and you're going to clear up all of the words of the affidavit. It's not terribly difficult to understand, especially if you've watched the show and understand everything in the show.

1:39:58 There are some financial information here. You're gonna need to go to some of my other shows and start looking at some of my financial information. You're going to read through this nationality clarification. Here we go. Naturalization right here, eight USC one one zero one subsection, eight 23 states. The term naturalization means the conferring of nationality of a state upon a person after birth by any mean whatsoever through the tremendous power of naturalization, I hereby confer the nationality of the state of the nation of the amnesty coalition on my ends legis, which means creature of the law called Brandon Joe Williams in all caps. Uh, when you were born, there was a corporate, uh, fiction that was created of your name in all capital letters.

1:40:39 If you look on your bills and all your mail, it has that name on it, which is a business or a, or a franchise name. It's not actually referring to you specifically. Again, the word person includes estates, partnerships, companies, corporations, et cetera. So you got to ask yourself, is this thing, which is a person, no one will deny that. If it's a person, it's one of many, many different things. So you got to think, what is it? And if they say individual, you say, what's the definition of individual? You're really going to blow out their tires because they don't know the definition of the word individual. I don't think anyone does. So Brandon, Joe Williams in all caps is not referring to you. It's a franchise or I call it the ends legis ends legis just means creature of the law I don't know what kind your honor.

1:41:24 Is it a corporation as an estate? I don't know, but I know it's a creature of the law It's an ends legis that I know that I can tell you with full certainty what it is. You say it's a corporation Sometimes sometimes I'll say it's a corporation, but then I think in the back of my head. Well, mr. Williams Can you prove that it's a corporation? Not necessarily Can I prove it's an ends legis? That's easy. Of course, that's easy. In California, uh, we pay tax to the franchise tax board. If you look up the definition of the word franchise, it literally means business. So when you pay state tax in California, and your name is on there, Brandon Joe Williams, you can just use their own terminology against them.

1:42:05 That's a business. It's very easy in California. That's why I like California because that franchise tax board makes things really, really simple to explain. Oh, so you're saying that, uh, um, uh, my name isn't a franchise. Oh, well, Mr. Williams. Oh, in that case, I don't have a state tax liability. Fantastic. Thank you. Thank you. Uh, thank you, your honor. Oh, I wasn't saying that. Oh, you see very, very easy. Very, very easy. Right. So here we have a little tax treaty. Very, very simple. Uh, I attest that, uh, my ends legis has been previously, uh, born after the Department of Health and Human Services processed my certificate of live birth. Uh, um, we have some naturalization stuff.

1:42:48 We have, uh, talking about, uh, national but not citizen after birth. Um, and then this is, we're not going to get into this, this is financial. Uh, but you can see it's a very short document, uh, opening statements, closing statements, uh, some financial information, and then you have the naturalization and nationality clarification. Uh, they, they, they process this document every single time it has been sent in. Hundreds of thousands of these have been sent in. They don't call you, they don't send you anything, nothing. They send you a series of three letters. The first letter says we've received your, uh, and they don't even talk about what it is.

1:43:33 They're very vague. We've received your whatever. It's going to have some random year on it. Sometimes it's the year you were born. Sometimes it'll say like the year you were born all the way up through whatever year you put on here. The years are just totally random, whatever they want to put on there, whatever their understanding of this is. And the document says something along the lines of, you know, We're working on getting back to you on this. Uh, there's nothing else you need to do. They'll say that right on the document. Then, uh, they'll say they need, you know, a 30 or 60, they'll say they need like 30 days, something like that. Then in 30 days, you'll receive a second letter. The second letter will say, um, uh, we're still working on it. There's still nothing you need to do. Uh, but we need an additional 60 or 90 days.

1:44:16 And then after an additional 60 to 90 days, they're going to send you a third letter. It's going to be the same thing. We're still working on what you sent us. You just nothing you need to do, but we have absolutely no idea when we're going to be done and, and we'll let you know we're done. And then you'll never hear from them again. In this process. Um, as more people become aware of this and process it, uh, I'm sure it's going to slow down as far as like your confirmation and everything like, yeah, we received it. Or can you go by the first, it doesn't matter what all you do is when you send it in, you send it certified mail and you make them sign for the parcel when they, when then, and then you'll get, you'll get the green card back and you'll also get the online notification.

1:44:57 Stating that it was delivered and it'll tell you even on the online thing, it'll say delivered to a person at a front desk, blah, blah, blah, blah. But the little green card, it's called a 3811, a PS 3811. You can check on there. Um, I'll show you, uh, it's probably better just to show you, uh, PS 3811, uh, images. So this is what they look like a PS 38, 11. Um, and it's funny cause I go in there and I'm like, I need some PS 30 to 11s. And they go, what, what are you talking about? And they've been working there for 30 years. It's kind of funny. Uh, this is what it looks like. Okay. And, uh, they're free. You can pick them up for free and they go with the P S 3, 800, I believe.

1:45:46 Yes. This is the P P S 3, 800. Okay. So you can see here, this is how they come together. Okay. And, uh, this, the P S 3, 800 is this one here. This one here has the number on it. You're going to take that number and you're going to stick it on the document. So at the top of the document, it'll say, um, certified male number, and you're going to stick, you're going to stick that. Uh, this number, uh, this number here on the certified meal, you're going to get two of these. These are free. The P. S. I, you know, everyone doing all the shit that I do. They have huge stacks of these and these at home, right?

1:46:30 And this number is going to go with the one document. One document goes to the local IRS servicing center, local to your area. And then the other one goes to the IRS commissioner. Right? So you're going to have two different parcels, two different certified mail numbers, two different PS 30, a hundreds, two different PS 38, 11th. Right. You're going to take this number right here and you're going to stick, uh, one of these on the one, and then that number goes in the document and then one of these on the other one, and then this number goes on the document as well. Right. And then this one is going to say, who is it going to? You're going to write, uh, IRS service center, and then you're going to write your local IRS service center. Blah, blah, blah, blah.

1:47:10 And then you have the various services that are available down here. And you just fill in or checkmark the boxes that you want. You're going to do adult signature, which is right here. You're going to do certified male, uh, registered trademark. I think is the, you're going to check on that one. And then you're going to check signature confirmation trademark. You're going to check that box. Then you're going to flip, flip over the 38, uh, 11. And on the backside, it's going to look like this. And then you're going to type in, you're going to write in with a pen, your sender information, Brandon, Joe Williams, P. O. Box 1962, Glendale, California, 9 1 2 0 9. And then this gets attached to the parcel.

1:47:51 They physically with a pen or stamp sign here, uh, name here and then date here. And then the, the post office guy will tear this green. Uh, uh, thing off of the parcel itself and then send it back to the address on the backside of the green card and you will actually physically get the 3811 back at the location that you put on the back of the 3011. And that is your evidence that the Internal Revenue Service has signed for the revocation of election to be treated as a US resident for the purposes of determining your income tax liability.

1:48:33 And that one's big. Thank you. That's a hot topic for a lot of people. Yes. So, so how hard is it to, to get out of taxation just as easy as it was to get into it, volunteering or naturalizing or electing. It's all the same word. Volunteer is how you say it in a social atmosphere. It's not a legal term. Uh, uh, the legal term from title eight would be naturalization. And then the legal term from title 26, which is the tax code would be an election or to elect kind of all means the same thing, volunteer, elect, volunteer naturalization. And, uh, you can see that here. I'll show one more thing.

1:49:14 You can also see that here at a 26 CFR 6 0 1. 6 0 2 subsection a, uh, the last sentence Tax system is based on voluntary compliance and the taxpayers complete and return the forms with payment of any tax owed if you go to This is where all of the yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy because there's a lot of fear behind it Oh, well, check this out. Check this out This is what this is what everyone's gonna send you all your naysayers and all your pussy ass family that that suck dick They're going to, they're going to send you this page, they're going to, they're going to, they're going to go online and they're going to start looking things up.

1:49:59 And this is what they're going to send you the truth about frivolous tax arguments. And it goes through and it talks about a lot of the stuff that I've been talking about on the show. Not all of it, by the way, a good chunk of it, maybe half or so of what I've talked about on the show. They'll talk about here. Now here's the kicker. Cause I was trying to figure out what, what am I missing here? I'm missing something. Right? Check this out. Tax payer. Taxpayer. 56 times it's used. They never refer to you in any other way besides the word taxpayer, including all of the letters they send you. And I started thinking, what the fuck is a taxpayer?

1:50:40 26 a 14 has the definition of taxpayer. And it blows this entire subject up instantly clarifies everything. The term taxpayer means any person subject to any internal revenue tax. If you're not naturalized, you aren't subject to any internal revenue tax. You aren't there. You're a non resident alien. That's a trick of words that they are, are literally selling you, trying to disprove someone who's understanding the words.

1:51:24 It's like a, it's like a double standard at that point. So if you were to read this in, in normal English, now everything starts to make sense people or, or companies or, or legal fictions that are subject to Internal revenue tax who rely on frivolous arguments to avoid filing returns may be subject to additional, uh, an addition to tax under this statement. This statement isn't is completely true. They aren't lying for failing to file a return. Additionally, people are individuals who are subject to internal revenue tax who rely on frivolous arguments to avoid paying tax may be subject to additions to tax.

1:52:12 For failing to pay taxes. This sentence is completely true. Here we go again. Individuals who are subject to, uh, uh, internal revenue tax filing returns with frivolous positions may be subject to the accuracy related penalty under section six, six, six, two. Which is completely true. Do you see? Yeah, because they're using my words. Everything, everything they are saying here is completely true. They are not lying to you. A taxpayer instituted a, a taxpayer's position, a taxpayer, unreasonably.

1:52:53 That's all they, they don't, they don't call you anything else. It's just, yeah, that's it. As long as they, uh, that's, that's slick, huh? That's awesome. You just, just that one word just made it all fall apart. So they say the word taxpayer. Oh my Lord. I am doing screaming, doing backflips. Whoa. Who in the fuck are you calling a taxpayer, bro? Because if they say taxpayer and you don't rebut it, that's also a little bit dangerous. They're saying, excuse me, Mr. Person who is subject to internal revenue tax.

1:53:34 And you go, yes, do you see what would you like to say they're a good friend? And they go, so you do admit it. You see, all right. So I feel like we scrambled everybody's brains and, um, they're going to have to go back and relisten. Um, I'm down to go into the philosophical part because I've had conversations with people around this who have an idea. And, uh, and. If you could clarify, because you said like at one point you're like, I'm the, it all comes down to the Bible and the trustee and the people of the land being the trustees and God being, um, the person who issued the trust, right?

1:54:21 Like, how does that break down? Like, what, what is your philosophical perspective of what's going on? Everything as a nation, even, even state of California, there's two nations there. There's one that's unincorporated. That's located where people think it's located. And it has a constitution from, uh, 1848. And it also has the federal constitution, which is also two federal constitutions. There's one federal constitution for the unincorporated independent nation states, and then there's also one for all the corporated states, right? So there's two different federal, two different state for each state. And then the district of Columbia has one, which is kind of interesting. One is the one that everybody knows of, or sees that's on like that scroll.

1:55:02 That's, uh, uh, well, if you look at the original, original, original, original on the scroll, that's the, that's the unincorporated. The corporation of the United States didn't exist until 1871. So pre 1871, there was only one country. After 1871, there's been two countries ever since. The 14th Amendment is what created the second country called United States. The corporation and the district of Columbia, the district of Columbia and the, the co corporation called the United States were both born in 1871. They were born from the 14th amendment and they were clarified in the slaughter house cases, which is a series of Supreme court cases in 1871.

1:55:43 So it all happened in 1871. All of it. Hmm. Hmm. And well, I want to finish what I was, um, alluding to before the whole trust situation, right? You as a people. Like I'm trying to watch my words, but us living people were given a trust and then that got all jacked up. But it seems like the whole commercial law, the whole system is, is written based off of that. Like that's the grounding point, so to speak. Or am I false? Yeah, we have, we have two different worlds that are intermeshed together.

1:56:23 One is the, the United States of America, which, which, uh, is still here. It's still the same thing as it was in 1776. And then we have a secondary incorporated overlay. Uh, corporate version of another country. The complicated part about the way this works is the, the, the unincorporated United States of America has physical locations and it operates on, um, on, on coordinates and stuff like that. Whereas the, the incorporated version does not have that. It's all just whatever and that's why residency in state of California can only be established through naturalization because there is no physical boundaries or physical location.

1:57:06 The reason why that is because if there was physical boundaries or location, how would you locate something that doesn't have a physical body such as an estate, a partnership, a corporation, a company, etc. You have to use references because it's not a physical body. So the only way that they could do it when they started getting into redefining the definition of the word person, which occurred during that same time period of the reconstruction of the, after the civil war, the only way that they could create an entirely new country that was based upon legal fictions, rather than by, uh, uh, uh, meat, body, and physical location is by making everything, uh, only locatable through a declaration rather than a physical location.

1:57:52 Correct. Okay. Okay. I'm saying correct, like, yeah, yeah, you're right. Yeah. As I'm, I'm saying that because I understand vaguely, but it's essentially ever since the civil war, this, all this BS started happening and people didn't know about it. And it sounds like people got grandfathered in because now you're going to have people that unknowingly accepted themselves as being part of the corporation, and it was probably sold to them because, Oh, this is to your benefit, right? Because well, they made a legal fiction of your name and all capital letters and they made a legal fiction of state of California And they made a legal fiction of County of Los Angeles and they made a legal fiction of City of Los Angeles All of those are per sons that are all listed on Dun and Bradstreet, which is a business directory So they created this entire false world That are all legal fictions that are all located in the district of Columbia, but it has the same names of everything that you think you see.

1:58:58 So city of Los Angeles, you see that on a sign and you go, Oh, I know where that's at. You don't know where that's at County of Los Angeles. You say, Oh, I know where that's at. You don't know where that's at. And the only way you can get there is by saying that you're there. There's no other way to physically get there. I could, I could touch and move my physical body through every millimeter of space on this entire planet, all the way from below the water in the sea, all the way up to the sky and spend all my days for the rest of my life. Physically moving through all of these areas. And if I don't say it with my mouth or write it with a pen, I was never in any of these places.

1:59:44 You as the living person, as you, as a living body. You said if I, I could, but I can travel the whole world right now in the legal world by saying, I confer the nationality of state of California upon myself. After, but I mean, that's whatever. Now I confer the state of, of, of New Mexico upon myself after birth by any means whatsoever. Now I'm in New Mexico. Now I confer the nationality of the state of Texas upon myself after birth payment whatsoever. Now, I'm in Texas. I can travel the whole world right now, right here on this chair, in the legal world. Just by stating that. Just by stating that, yes. That's, yeah. Alright, well, insane.

2:00:27 Cause I'm like, I don't even want it. Like I have to process the other things to be able to process how to take advantage of that. Uh, I mean, you sound like you're Neo right now. You know how he unplugs himself and then he goes back in and he just said, he's like, no, and then the bullets stop. Yeah. Or, and he's literally getting up and flying around with no limitations. And I told my wife this and she said, so what's the benefit? And it's as if it's not obvious um, if someone is trying to digest this and you're saying I definitely want to get back to how you Tried to find the source of this and I think you said you found it in the bible I want to get there but but first because this came up to mind now The benefit what are some like obvious benefits that you can tell a person to to that is Like what are the benefits that you can tell a person when you're like you should do this?

2:01:25 outside of, well, you're free. I thought I was already free. And then without having to digest, just explain them, everything was like, Hey, you know what, if you want to know how it works, watch this. But for now, these are the benefits. I don't have a federal income tax liability. I don't have a state tax liability. I don't have a sales tax liability. Uh, Los Angeles has a city tax. I don't have a city tax liability. Uh, I am not contracted into the California Vehicle Code. Uh, I cannot be given citations. I cannot be given tickets. Uh, Um, Uh, I have infinite money. That's a whole other subject. So, I can create money, uh, out of thin air as much as I want, anytime I want. Uh, which we're not going to get into, it's going to take another hour.

2:02:07 Uh, but I have a lot of free information about that. That's, uh, where a lot of my research is currently, and all, all of my litigation is involving that subject. I don't do any litigation yet involving nationality and citizenship. All my litigation is all involving financials and, and uh, the financial system. The banking. And um Yeah, uh, diplomatic immunity. Uh, you can start your own nation. I've started my own nation. It's a totally legal. Uh, if you look at, uh, there's another one that's pretty shocking for people, uh, 18 U. S. C. 11, uh, how do you create your own foreign government? It's very, very easy. You can create your own foreign government right now in five minutes. Uh, 18 U. S. C. 11, foreign government defined.

2:02:48 The term foreign government includes any government, faction, or body of insurgence within a country with which the United States is at peace. Irrespective of recognition by the United States. So by simply saying that a nation exists and then conferring the nationality of that nation upon yourself, as long as that nation is at peace, It does not need any recognition to be legally classified as a foreign government. It simply needs to be at peace. So the question, the most important question is, okay, what's the definition of the word peace?

2:03:30 The definition of the word peace fits in perfectly. With the definition of the word nation, peace is defined as the tranquility enjoyed by a political society internally by the good order, which reigns among its members and externally by the good understanding it has with all other nations applied to the internal regulations of the world. Of a nation peace imports, which means kind of like indicates or shows in a technical sense, not merely a state of repose and security as opposed to one of violence or warfare, but likewise a state of public order and decorum.

2:04:15 This is a long ass description of peace. Same thing as nation, internal tranquility, external tranquility. And then this one just adds a little caveat at the end. Public order and decorum. This is why when you start getting into diplomatic relations and you, you, you'll actually find from the department of state and the foreign affairs, uh, office of the foreign affairs, uh, in the department of state, they have manuals for everything. They have manuals that teach you how to set up a table, depending on if it's an ambassador or a consular or what level they're at or a service staff, they have how to introduce. Yourself or another person to another person based off of rank, based off of location, what arm, what hand you use to shake, uh, uh, how to enter a room.

2:05:01 Uh, they have tremendous. Uh, specific technology. That technology is the technology, in my opinion, I call it the technology of decorum. It's like a rabbit hole of rabbit holes. Like, you're like, Oh, I got my foot stuck in two holes. What is going on? It can keep going. Whoa, whoa, whoa. All right. So I want to go into, um, are you good for 30 minutes of me asking you questions based off of, yeah, sure. All right, let's go. I appreciate you spending the time with me, man. Yeah, yeah. That's cool. Um, so the God part, the Bible part, what have you seen that connects this to the Bible?

2:05:49 Well, the Bible, uh, a lot of this information goes back to trusts and, and trust law, and then before you have the incorporated United States, everything just operated off of. Uh, Common Law. Common Law is, is, is actually a, a great example, uh, uh, Common Law is in all the movies. Uh, so you have this little town, middle of nowhere, and, and, and someone comes in and they start doing stupid shit. The sheriff who's, you know, chilling, smoking a cigar, doesn't do a whole lot. Maybe he has a deputy, but often times he would just work by himself. And he just goes off and gets the guy and they put them in a, in a room. And it's just local people from the, from the town. And they, and they, and these, he's innocent until proven guilty.

2:06:32 But typically to get this far, it's like, there's gotta be a, a dead body. I mean, it's gotta be really our busted thing or something. It's obvious, you know what I mean? So they, they go around and they talk and they do their thing. And then typically at that point, um, they just kind of make up a fucking, that's why you have these old things like the stocks. If someone was. Cheating on their husband, you know, the woman would get put in stocks and they could throw tomatoes at her for six days in the middle of town square or whatever, or they would have to do reparations, repair things or paint things in the town or, or they'd get killed or imprisoned or whatever it is. They just make up, make it, there's no codes, it's just fuck this guy, let's hang him right now. You know, right, right down the street, right, right here.

2:07:13 Let's let's, let's build a gallows next door and hang the motherfucker right now. Okay. You know, uh, that's what they did. So what happened was, is that, uh, common law operated like that for a while and it was notoriously, uh, uh, uh, uh, savage. No, very savage. So what happened was is they, they created this secondary type of, of court called equity. The whole point of an equity court was to try to pad the extreme, like let's rip this guy's skin off and, and leave him in the middle of town square. To die of starvation, shitting and pissing himself for nine days and excruciating pain.

2:07:57 They were trying to get that into, how about we just hang him or something? Or how about like, how about we just, you know, let's be a little bit more civil, right? So, so the purpose, the purpose of the design of equity was to try to combat the savageness of a common law. Okay. But then. We keep going farther and farther and farther and then boom 1871 and then boom we start getting into all these codes and then now we just have this gigantic Fuck fest. Right. So back in the common law days, uh, everything was very, very simple. Everything was very, very Bible focused and, and it was very, very simple.

2:08:37 And, and there were trusts trusts were just contracts on how to deal with some kind of asset, whether it's my shit when I die, or whether it's a motorcycle or whether it's a business or whatever, just trust for just the definition of a trust is just a contract that, that. That basically is between trustees and beneficiaries that explain how some sort of asset will be administered. The trustee administers the asset. Let's say, for example, it could be a, um, a, a trademark. On a book and it's a very well book. That's very popular. Let's say back in 1850 before the Civil War, before the incorporated government.

2:09:20 Let's say I had a newspaper, uh, business. Uh, it wasn't even called a business back then. Let's say a newspaper trade organization. I think that's what they were called back then. And I wanted to have this guy operate it. And then I was going to be the one to receive the, uh, The, the, the overall profit from it. Right. So I would say, you know, I'd write up a contract and it would say, you know, this local printing shop, blah, blah, blah, located at blah, blah, blah, blah. Uh, uh, Jim Jones is going to be operating the printing shop. He has the rights to hire people underneath him. He has this, he has that, uh, I'm going to train him.

2:10:02 He has to do this and this and this, and then he's going to get this amount of money Every month. And then, you know, everything else is going to get paid to the beneficiary, which is going to be this guy or whatever, it's just contract. And then the party signed the contract. And then that trust now becomes real. And then the trustee administers this asset, the asset would be the newspaper trade organization, and then the beneficiary would be him. And then now he can step off of that and basically essentially retire. Um, that was basically it. There was no corporation. There was no anything with the government. If, if these people, this trustee and this beneficiary and these, these guys that are doing this particular activity, if they wanted.

2:10:44 local areas and towns to know that this information was what was going on. They could, as an option, go to what, what is called the county recorder and they could pay a very, very small fee and they could have this, this trust, or they could create what's called a certificate of trust, which is just a, uh, it would be a real simple document that would say, you know, announcement. A certificate of trust. Uh, there is a trust that has now been opened between this party and this party, uh, some, maybe some real basic information about it, and then that's it. So it would keep the, the original trust and, uh, indenture private. And then, and then on the public side, let's say there was some reason why they wanted the public to know that there was this trust and how it was going to work that would get filed into the county recorder.

2:11:33 And then now, if anybody needed any information on that, they can go to the county recorder. The county recorder was sort of like the internet of that day. If you wanted to know, if you wanted to tap into what was going on in the world, as far as I know, that's where you'd go or you'd go to the newspapers. And so everybody for the most part knew it was very basic back then. Everybody knew about trusts and everybody. I mean, you could draw, I mean, you could take a sheet of paper and just say, you know, this car, this wagon, you know, blah, my son's going to use it, but it's just, yeah, it was just kind of whatever that you didn't file it anywhere. There wasn't any, we don't, it's just between me and the guy, there's nothing else.

2:12:14 There's nobody else. So if he understands and I understand, I mean, you can make a trust with a handshake and technically it would still be a trust. Wouldn't be, it wouldn't be written. So, so even in today's world, you have an express trust and an implied trust. Express trust would be written very, very specific definitions. Typically, ideally, very clear, unimplied trust could be just, you shake my hand and you take my car and you use it. And then the proceeds of the Uber that you drive, I get part of it. That could be a trust. The res of the trust, which would be the asset of the trust would be the car.

2:12:54 And he would be the trustee because he's the one who's operating the res. And then I would be a beneficiary because I wouldn't have to do anything. And I would benefit from the activities of the trustee operating the res of the trust. Got it. So. Um, going back to, uh, well, my, I guess what I was asking was the origin of contracts. Yeah. If you start getting into, if you start getting into going back that far, then yeah, you, you go into a lot of Bible verses and, and that kind of thing. And, and the Bible is, is, is sort of like the backbone of, of all everything, common law and everything. I mean, you start going back far enough, but it's, it's, it's very, very simple.

2:13:39 It's very simple. It's not like you need to. Go and read thousands and thousands of Bible verses. I mean, there's there's a handful and that pretty much Created everything. I mean it wasn't like I mean you could probably fit all the main key Bible verses that that equaled most of the things that you see in law and the legal world and contracts and probably less than a page or a half page of Quotes, could you reference one verse? I'm very curious Um, uh, no, not off the top of my head. Uh, I would need to go on my website or something and look, it's not something that I talk about a lot.

2:14:19 It's not particularly, we live in a world now where everyone's so desperate. Most people, uh, viewing this information or trying to learn this information. They're not coming from a, Oh, this is so interesting. Kind of a, they're coming from like a, I'm going to fucking die. If I don't figure out whatever it is, I'm trying to fucking figure out. Police are coming. The windows are getting bashed in. That's typically where a lot of people are at, uh, or they're just, or they're just financially struggling period. And they're just, they've been for 20 years and they're just fucking sick and tired of it. But, but there's always some kind of.

2:15:01 You know, the, the amount of people that are just kind of sipping coffee and enjoying kind of like an evening read with this kind of stuff, it doesn't really, not a lot of that. Very few, very few. So getting into stuff like Bible verses and this kind of stuff is not typically something I talk about a whole lot. Um, I talked about it a little bit in the course, but I don't get into that kind of stuff too much because it's not really what the viewers are looking for. What the viewers are looking for is. In fact, what the viewers are looking for is how do I, uh, a fly into action at 400 miles an hour, more than 48 hours, which is, which is stupid and isn't going to work and you're dumb, but that's where most people are at.

2:15:41 Yeah. And that's what your contract killer course is for. Yeah. Just digesting you step at a time. Um, have you, if I had to say like, like how long. Can it take for people to really start to, to take really serious changes? Uh, I mean, compared to even a few years ago, you're looking at years. Now you're looking at weeks. There's so much information everywhere. There's so many people that produce so much good content on the subject. It's unbelievable. Like if I were to share a few of them, um, we have, uh, some of my favorites. We have state nationals rock. State Nationals Rock. This guy's name is Kenny.

2:16:22 Um, I think it's Instagram. State Nationals Rock. This guy's got great content, uh, really good stuff. Lots of, uh, really good, uh, educational information. Uh, fun, not, you know, I don't like, uh, teachers that teach in, in really nasty, harsh, dogmatic, unfriendly, unpeaceful ways, because it, it violates the definition of nation. It violates the definition of peace and it puts the idea that we are a foreign government as per H in USC 11 at risk. So I stay away from, there are a lot of that out there. Uh, you will find a lot of people very upset, very angry, very hostile about everything that's going on.

2:17:04 I stay away from those people. I'm not associated with those people. Uh, so the people that I share with you are, are not going to be of that category, right? So we have a state nationals rock. This is a great one. We have, um, Um, MoorishLighthouse underscore official. Uh, this dude is absolutely fantastic. Uh, he is a specialist in what is called adverse possession and he has multiple books. So adverse possession, basically the way that works is. In common law, before all of the crazy statutory bullshit, uh, the way that you would claim a house or a property, especially as we were moving West and as the country was colonized, and actually even to this day in common law, it's still options the same way you simply claim something.

2:17:54 And if no one else claims it after a certain period of time, it's yours. End of story. Technically squatting. So the media, the media, so squatting the, the, if you want to get into the legal definitions of things, squatting would be, you're claiming something of which someone else is also claiming, and they actually have a superior legal right to the property. Adverse possession is, is claiming a property and nobody else ever comes and claims it. So you have this property like this, and there's nothing going on with it. This dude got this house for free. Two bath house on 1. 5 acres.

2:18:34 It's all fucked up. And he just moves in and there's even ways you can say, Hey, I'm announcing the fact that I'm taking this over. I don't know if anyone wants this and you can put things in the newspaper and you can do stuff. And if they don't actively come and claim the property, it's called adverse possession. You can take legal ownership of a piece of property, and that includes property that doesn't have a house on it. If it's just some plot of land and there's no house on it and you want it, and there's nothing fucking going on with it, you could run an adverse possession on it. Right. Some people, uh, don't like that idea. Some people think that that's a bad thing and blah, blah, blah. But when you realize how the banks finance all the mortgages and how the banks have stolen every single piece of property from all of us over the years through the insane banking and finance system of which I specialize in, trust me, you won't have any issues with Everest possession anymore.

2:19:30 I remember you saying people have gotten. Cars for free and people have gotten Oh, I've gotten tons. I've gotten like 90 cars for free. Geez. Another one that I really enjoy Yep, yep, go ahead. Is, uh, Monza Mah tha Eight, eight, eight. Gee. Monza Mah ha tha This guy. This guy is fucking hilarious, dude. So this guy, if you like my teaching style and the really crazy kind of silliness He's like the, he's the, he's the, what he, what he calls the melanated. I don't say the word black.

2:20:11 Cause I asked him, I'm like, what do you prefer me to call you? He's like melanated. I'm like, all right, fine. So he's the melanated version of me. I guess you could say, um, really a lot of humor. Very, very fun. His is very, uh, financial based. So a lot of the stuff that I specialize in and a lot of stuff that I do and all the financial shit and all that kind of shit that I do and all the litigation. It actually started with him. If it wasn't for this guy, I wouldn't even have my law firm. My litigation wouldn't even exist. This guy is the reason why I do what I do. And he is absolutely fucking hilarious. I mean. He calls it laugh and learn. And I'm telling you, he's very good at both extremely talented man.

2:20:53 Right. And he has huge events that he does all over the country. And he's very, very successful. And he has these massive zoom calls that are like total fucking madness where there's like 700 people on there. And it's a lot of fun. He's a good guy. Really, really good guy. He cares a lot. Uh, really one of my favorites. Um, trying to think of. Some other people I could name, but, uh, uh, truthfully just those three alone. And then my stuff, you're, you're going to, you're going to get, you start following me and these guys are going to get so many other accounts that are going to pop up on your feed. It's going to make your head spin, uh, literally with instantly, like right away, you follow me and follow one of the other guys, boom, you're going to start getting, you know, All this stuff is going to start coming on your feet and you're going to see all the other people.

2:21:35 But, um, a lot of them I don't like so much. Uh, the ones that are, the ones that are, are very convoluted, very confusing, are the ones that are very angry and hostile. I stay away from those people. I don't recommend those people at all. So, um, yeah. Uh, three, four years ago, there was almost none of this. And now it seems like every month there's somebody new exploding onto the scene. So, um, This is good. There's so much of this, uh, getting, getting put out there. Uh, you know, a lot of it does come from me. I will admit I'm, I'm probably at this point from all the work I've done, one of the more prolific individuals here, but there's several of us that all have different teaching styles and, and we all teach in different areas.

2:22:18 Like for example, Jalil, uh, Morrish Lighthouse official, he used to teach, teach about everything. And now he specializes in adverse possession, adverse possession, As in what? Adverse possession. Like what I was talking about earlier, where you have a piece of property and you claim it and nobody else claims it. It's unclaimed property. Oh man, you, you, do you, because you're, you're specializing in The money and the infinite money area. What are your thoughts on everybody, CBDC, crypto versus decentralized?

2:23:00 Because it's almost like, if you understand what you're understanding and what you're helping people technically don't really need decentralized currency, but it's there. The future is either going to be where the government and the Federal Reserve pays for everything and there is no money anymore, which is, which is a definite option with the way things are headed. Or the secondary option, which is, I think more likely what's going to happen is the 14th amendment was never legally ratified once the 14th amendment, uh, and Congress has already said this, by the way, I have evidence on, uh, the nation of the amnesty coalition page, as well as my Williams and Williams law for page. You're going to see, I have the actual congressional record from 1967, uh, literally photocopied and placed on my website for evidence purposes.

2:23:44 And they tell you that the, um, the, the 14th amendment was never legally. Ratifying right now once once that gets confirmed and acted upon. Uh, federal reserve notes won't exist anymore because the district of Columbia, the United States and federal reserve and federal reserve notes will all cease to exist because they're all based off of the 14th amendment. So when that happens, what's going to happen is, uh, the, the, the, the, the currency system is going to convert back to gold and silver coins that are produced individually by each individual state.

2:24:25 Each, the gold and the silver coins will pretty much have all of the same intrinsic value, but technically speaking, California will mint its own, New Mexico will mint its own, Texas will mint its own, but it's pretty much just an artistic design in terms of the actual value, it'll Pretty much the same ounce, you know, versus this or a larger ounce versus this or this versus this sizes of coins. And then if it's silver, it's a much lower denomination. And if it's gold, it's a much, much higher denomination. And, and we're going to go back to gold and silver coins. And each individual state will produce its own artistic version of said.

2:25:09 Denominations. So let's say for example, California wants to have a 10th ounce and eighth ounce, a half ounce and a full ounce. And you know what, one state may have a bunch of types of gold and silver coins, whereas another state may have less or more, but that's about it. Besides that, you're going to have, um, uh, it's all the same, all the same. You don't think there's going to be digital currency backed by. Gold and silver because no, because the definition of money, if you look at the definition of money, it says gold and silver coins and does not embrace notes, evidences of debt or real estate or other things.

2:25:51 So if we can't walk around or if I'm wondering how would that work? Because you'll have, you'll, you'll go back to. So in the 1800s, we had two things. We had gold certificates and silver certificates, and you can look them up very easily online and you can even buy them. I follow some. Uh, really interesting accounts, like for example, um, I think there's one HCA Auctions. Uh, let me see here. Hmm, is it this one?

2:26:31 No. I would need to look. There's a bunch of different auctions that have all sorts of old currency, and all they do, and I love that shit. I have, I have all this stuff all over my desk, I can show you in a second. I have all these different, uh, Uh, all this different types of currency and all this different types of stuff. So, um, but, um, let's see, what was I going to, I'm totally spaced out all of a sudden, what was it, what was the question? Um, so you were talking about silver certificates. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Silver certificates. So silver. So if you have gold and silver in a vault somewheres, you can be issued a silver certificate because that represents an actual.

2:27:15 Piece of silver versus a promise. Well, this is what, this is what, when people say that we used to have, um, real money and now we don't, that's actually true to some degree, actually. Yeah. Because if you look here, so, so, so. So this is an old silver certificate, right? So now we have Federal Reserve notes, which just says 1. And then you say to yourself, okay, 1 of what? Nobody can answer it, right? There is no answer, right? Whereas back in the day, when you had silver certificates, you have 1 of what? 1 of silver, one silver dollar.

2:27:56 Right. And a silver certificate. The word certificate in the legal dictionary means a representation of something else. There's also another definition, which is evidence that an event took place. So a marriage certificate. Would be a piece of paper that, that is all the information that is the evidence that an event took place called a marriage. This definition of the word certificate is a different definition, which means a representation of like, for example. When you get your pink slip from the state of California, let's say, for example, it's called a certificate of title.

2:28:37 It's pretty shocking to find out that what a certificate of title means is literally, if you translate that into English, it means proof that a title exists someplace else. Your pink slip for your car is not a title. It's actually a security. It's actually a stock or a bond, like what you would see on the stock market. Right. I'm not going to get into all that cause I'm trying to stay away from that. But anyways, so, um, this is, this is as close to real money as, as you're going to get, um, uh, payable to bear on demand. What that means is if I hand this silver certificate, which means representation of silver certificate means representation, if I were to go to the treasury or wherever else, now we're to present this as the bearer.

2:29:30 So bear it. So, so, so extended out and offer it. Then I would be given in return one silver dollar. Okay. And that's what a silver certificate means. Is, and the dollar amount actually had a real meaning. $1$5 of silver would be, you know, whatever. I don't know what the, maybe one ounce was considered a dollar back then or whatever. So it'd be like the same thing as saying one ounce or five ounce or 10 ounces. Of silver. Okay. And a gold certificate is the exact same thing, but obviously for gold, right? So, well, these certificates, that's, I mean, that's, that's great and all, but unless we start printing those certificates, we're not going to be swapping that out.

2:30:17 It sounds like it's going to be re reintroduced later on when, um, More and more people are aware of what's going on. Am I correct? Like you're pretty much saying like, this is pretty much the direction it's going to go back to just because it sounds like as people get more familiar of with how everything's all set up right now, which is not in their favor and our favor as people, um, you're going to be able to mess with a system like crazy and it can just get bananas until we actually revert back to normal. The original system. Yeah, I don't know what's gonna happen. We got a lot of people getting a lot of free shit. Uh, yeah Right now I'll ask for so long though.

2:30:59 We'll see. I don't know about that. I'm not so sure about that Because the thing is is that Technically speaking that is not true Technically speaking the Federal Reserve Can print infinite money and everyone can have infinite money and it does never end because what happens is at a certain point It'll continue to inflate the currency. Yes You But the thing is, is that if, if there, if, if the inflationary value of the currency is, is, is irrelevant, meaning if, if, uh, if, uh, if a tomato costs 480 trillion federal reserve notes, but everyone had infinite money.

2:31:41 And then the next day it went from 400 trillion to 800 trillion. And then the next day it was 400 quadrillion. Who gives a shit? It doesn't mean anything. It's all free. It's all free, but so then how do you choose what you are trading value wise? Because at that point, at that point value, see the, the, the whole thing was, is they wanted to attach 100 percent of the idea of value and consideration to these things called Federal Reserve. Prior to Federal Reserve notes, people did barter, people did all sorts of shit.

2:32:25 Everything was just totally wide open. You could just. Sex and fucking prostitution. And I mean, literally anything, it was just like, everything is, it goes and there is no rules and nobody gives a fuck and you can do whatever you want. That is the reality of what the world really is. And that's the reality of what the world in its most native state actually is. And then golden silver coins became a supplementary activity and a supplementary tool that was supposed to clarify and improve commercial transactions. Got it. That's like the, um, everything falls under, down to the gold and silver instead of it's, we're still working with this unlimited funds right now, but when it comes down to, I do remember you saying the only thing that's actually money Is gold and silver.

2:33:19 So you coin the game, gold and silver coins. Ah, so I can't give somebody a silver bar is not technically. So what makes something a coin? Does it depend on where it's issued? I know we're going to look it up, look it up. I mean, article one, section 10 of the constitution says that the states are supposed to be the ones to coin those silver and, uh, and gold coins. So, so I guess if you want to think about it from, from more of a, uh, uh, of a constitutional aspect. It would be, it would be, uh, these small, round, uh, uh, easily exchangeable silver or gold, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, discs that, uh, uh, maybe have some kind of like a little bit of, of art on them or whatever that are issued through some sort of state.

2:34:17 Regulated treasury. It'd be like the California treasury. It wouldn't be the United States treasury. That's all part of the incorporated world. It would be the California treasury, the New Mexico treasury, the Texas treasury, the Louisiana treasury. And that's how it would work. Got it. Cool. Interesting. This is a gold coin right here. Um, issued actually by the treasury. I can show it to you. I have, I have, I guess you can call it, what is it? Dirty silver or whatever. Junk silver. There you go. There's a Buffalo sexy.

2:35:00 Oh my God. So how much is that worth? Well, shit, three or four days ago, it was like 2, 700. And now it's like 3, 500. I don't know what the fuck is going on. Yeah. Well, if you're, if you're an expert in infinite money, it doesn't matter, right? That that's actually a play thing, right? At this point. Well, I play both worlds. I play the money world and I play the negotiable instruments world. So I play both sides of the equation. I'm like a banker on both sides. For both of your names, for both of your identities. You got it. Yeah. I have one for, for inside the system and I have one for outside the system. So I enjoy money. And then I also enjoy currency. Um, they're both a lot of fun and, and, and currency is exciting because currency is at this point in time, because no one knows any of this information, it's accepted everywhere.

2:35:46 Yeah. When more and more people start to learn about this information, uh, there's going to be a lot of people. I think Texas is going to be the first place where they're not going to accept Federal Reserve notes anymore. Oof. Yeah, that's going to be fun. Oof. Are you preparing people for that? point, now at that point, you're going to get pushed out of the currency game. And then now you're going to be on the money game. Because, uh, if they stop taking Federal Reserve notes, then the infinite money thing won't work anymore. Hmm. Interesting. So it, it, it all, it all just comes down to, you know, what, what's going to happen and where things are going pretty crazy. So we'll see, but I like working both sides because if, if, if, if I'm ever somewhere where they do decide to kind of go in that direction, then all this infinite money stuff and currency and federal reserve notes, it's irrelevant.

2:36:27 You can't do anything with it. So, um, I think, I think the direction this country is going, I truly, strongly believe that it is going towards gold and silver coins. And I think, uh, Uh, one of the main reasons why I believe that is because once more people catch on to the 14th amendment, there's going to be, I think very soon here in the next two or three years, that, that 14th amendment is going to go bye bye. And when that 14th amendment goes bye bye, all this infinite money stuff and all this financial stuff and all the federal reserve notes and all that shit is all goes bye bye. Instantaneously. Once enough people know about it. Yeah. Hmm. So I'm just kind of riding the wave until, until that happens.

2:37:08 I'm thrilled about that happening. Um, I have absolutely, I'm 100 percent supportive of that occurring and I'm 100 percent supportive of that not occurring. I could care less either way. So whatever happens happens and I'm going to work both sides until that does happen and then by the time it does happen, you know, it's fine with me. Sounds great. I carry around a small little baggie all the time because, uh, I never want to be broke. And it's a little baggie like this. And it has, I've probably lost a couple over the years, um, but it has, uh, originally it had ten little one gram silver coins. And you can actually buy this little pouch.

2:37:51 And it has all these little one gram silver coins, just tiny, itty bitty little silver coins with these little, little symbols on them. And They're smaller than die. This one has a Freemason symbol on it. This one has a skull and bones. There's all these random ass symbols on there. Uh, this entire pouch, with the pouch, with the little coins, was like 26 bucks on Amazon. I was told I overpaid. I'm like, I don't give a fuck, bro. Uh, 26, right? 26, you get the little pouch, and you get the little Silver coins. And this is, uh, where I think we're headed. So, uh, I like to carry around currency just in case everything switches when you're out and about.

2:38:35 No, It's just, it's just, it's just a immersion, immersion, immersion, immersion. I got I got all this stuff. I got a buddy of mine who produces these custom coins. I bought all his shit. I've got, uh, 1, 800 worth of his shit on here. I've got, uh, uh, so Jamestown, the Republic of so Jamestown of which I'm a parliament member. Uh, they have their own currency called doobles. They have coins and paper currency. That's great. So I have doobles here. I have, uh, I have, what else do I have? I have the gold coin. I have these things, which some people have probably seen called goldbacks. I found these pretty interesting. That's what I was talking about. I've heard more about goldbacks. So here you open up this and you go like this. Oh, that's freaky.

2:39:15 Right. And these are, um, listening, it looks like just shiny money. It looks like a foil, like Pokemon cards. It looks like, uh, but like really intense, like even more intense than a foil Pokemon card, like really fucking intense. Right. So that's really thin gold. So it's like a fraction of an ounce or something for each one of these there. It's not all gold It's just it's gold gold is infused to each one and they have these different denominations One it's it's one of what you know what I mean? And it even says right on it negotiable instrument and the reason why is because these technically are not Money either because it has to be a coin to be money.

2:40:02 Do you see? So it literally says right on it, uh, uh, a negotiable instrument, which is the same thing as a federal reserve note. So we're still not all the way to money with these. This is actually just another type of currency, like a federal reserve note. Whereas this is money. This is a negotiable instrument, but this is closer to this than a federal reserve note. You see, got it. So. I would love to do a different episode just on money. Cause I know now that I know that that's what you're specialized in. I can ask you about that stuff. And I'm sure everybody would be interested in that. Are you down for that? Yeah, sure.

2:40:43 Okay. I would say maybe to close this out because we went that direction of where things could go, could you walk me through a day? Where you would have like coins in your pocket or something and you're going to buy something and how that would Have you processed that in your head like what that would look like because I think people are having a hard time understanding What a world will look like with coins in your pocket and even if that's positive Well, yeah, because the deflation would cease to exist. So so the value of the money in your pocket now is like shit The value in your, in your, of the money in your pocket, like that, what I just showed you right there.

2:41:23 I mean, Jesus, fuck. Just, just this little pouch with these ten coins. I mean, you're looking at probably what would be considered I don't know, if, if, if we went all the way back to the gold and silver standard, these are like Probably one of these could buy you like a whole meal, maybe? Something like this could buy you like a whole meal, or fill up your whole gas tank. You're not carrying around this gigantic fucking thing. Yeah, because they're tiny. Well, one ounce, you could have, you could have just one little pouch like this. This would be your wallet. Okay. And, and you would have a few of these and you'd have a few larger and medium sized ones, and they would just fit in there and you would just stick this in your pocket.

2:42:05 And actually, in fact, this would take up less space than federal reserve notes. Because if you look at my wallet and you have even a small wallet like this, you You know, it can take up more space actually than a little baggie full of silver and then gold is a whole nother ball game. I mean, if you have like little tiny gold coins, Oh shit. You can buy like a whole car with that. So just don't get robbed. Yeah, that's that. That's where things get complicated. Right? Cause now you're looking at, you know, getting robbed and all this kind of stuff. And that's how banking started. Banking started where it's like, why would you want to carry around this stuff when you can get robbed? Why don't you.

2:42:46 But you got to think what probably happened is they probably paid and trained people to go out and run people to justify the banking system in the first place. Do you see? So it goes back to all sorts of goofiness. But the thing is, is it's like, you know, now we're carrying around. Little certificates or gold certificates because people don't want to carry around the gold coins and stuff like that. Right. And that's how the whole negotiable instrument system was born because negotiable instruments are abstracts of money. They represent money, which is why they use the word certificate. Certificate is something that represents something else. Gold certificate, silver certificate. You see the us debt clock.

2:43:27 org. Is that laughable to you or. Interesting. I don't, I don't know. I don't know if it's real or not. I don't know who runs it. I don't know much about it to be honest. That's why I keep saying everybody's like, Oh, reference reference. I'm like, well, who is behind that? It's just a site. I have no idea. No idea. Huh? Well, we covered a lot. We got like a whole lesson in the beginning and then we dabbled around a little bit and I'm pretty sure I perked up a bunch of people's ears on the money side. Um, Yeah, man, this has been a wild ride for you. It's just another day. How many, how many podcasts have you been on? Are you counting?

2:44:08 Probably 150, 200, 150, 200, something like that. Jesus. And they're all two, two hours to three hours every single time. Yeah. I was like, Oh, we'll do like an hour and a half. Now I'm looking at two hours and 42 minutes. Yeah. Oh my God. But, uh, yeah, I mean, thanks for coming on. I appreciate you spreading the word, making sure we all know this. And, uh, I'm actually pretty my bro. I'm probably going to have a headache tomorrow because I thought I had a hand on this That's, that's a couple of years ago. So, so this presentation is, is including all the information that's been divulged since that point.

2:44:49 Yeah, and I was hoping that you would go with that direction you did because your your course is like how many hours like 25 hours of material. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and you crunched that And I'm still catch so you're not gonna see a lot of this stuff in this show in the course because because that was When I was first starting and I was first putting it all together. Yeah, so Cool, and if we do another show or if you see me in another show in a year or two, it'll probably be Who knows? I don't know how I can get much better than this, but, uh, naturalization, I feel like really is the bottom of the fucking barrel, but who knows? Who knows? I thought I had it all, you know, bottom of the barrel. Probably. I don't know if I thought that, but who knows? Who knows?

2:45:30 Who knows? You know what I mean? I gotcha. I gotcha. All right. Well, Brendan, Joe Williams, thanks for coming on the show. And, uh, I think next time we got to go into that money. Let's do it. Till next time. Peace!