# 82: AI Threat to Humanity | Christopher Wright

0:00 I got to see firsthand the development of ai drone warfare A lot of people don't know, but, these systems are, um,, taking human life today by algorithm, meaning that you can launch a little drone system. The thing will fly out. And I'll actually pinpoint targets on its own. So it'll like select targets and execute those targets as it determines. these AI systems are reaching IQs that are beyond humans they look at this gift of AI as being the tool to achieve that. And ultimately like these guys are very spiritual. I mean, they you know, some of these tech CEOs, they, you can look it up. I mean, they talk about the spirituality of AI and they look at AI as being a God.

0:40 All right. Welcome to the New Age Human Podcast. I'm your host, Jonathan Astacio. And today's episode, we're talking with Christopher Wright, who is the founder of the AI Trust Council. He has a background in army attack aviation and was inspired to help to make sure AI is used for the betterment of humanity rather than its destruction. Stick around because we will talk about AI current and future threats, including some surprising insights from Christopher when he was in the military and as well as of course, solutions and what we can do to stay safe and protect our freedoms. Hoorah. Now, before we begin, if you want to get alerted to future episodes and are enjoying the content, I ask that you like, and subscribe on YouTube or any other platform that you're watching right now.

1:31 And, or listening to us just reach out to me. If you have any questions or if you have any ideas on future episode concepts and people you want me to talk to now, with that said, let's get to the show. Christopher Wright, thank you for coming on the show. How's it going, man? Thank you. Yeah. Thank you for having me. It's going great. we were talking about just before we hit the record button where I was telling you that I'm like This is gonna be interesting conversation because you have an interesting background and I want to know this story and I was fighting myself Asking you prior to him, the record button, how that transition was. So let's start off there. How did you transition from flying long bow Apaches in the middle East to running an AI company?

2:20 Yeah, it's, it's kind of a funny story cause um, yeah, it really has to do with drone warfare. Yeah, I spent a long time in the army. Yeah, it was a combat engineer right after high school and then went on to flight school. And but I hadn't, uh, I was in the army reserves for a period of time and had an internship in, uh, in, uh, Newport beach, California, where I was working for a tech startup around the, uh, the. com bubble. So. Um, and so I've learned a lot about tech at that time then, uh, it's actually an interesting position because I was able to review business plans for a, like a venture capital, uh, company that was helping to fund these startups. And so I really got to see the foundation of the, uh, you know, the modern internet and all these companies that were coming in and, and, uh, getting built and things like that.

3:00 And then, but, uh, anyway, so I ended up going off flight school and, uh, did deployment, uh, over to Afghanistan and, uh, And ultimately got out of the army and then started contracting the Middle East. The money, uh, when you're contracting is like three times what you make in the, and like the regular army pay. So it makes, it makes like, okay, this is common sense. You know, I can make Yeah. a boatload of cash, you know, just doing pretty much the same thing with less, uh, less rules. Yeah. So anyway, so, um, yeah, so I was teaching over in, uh, Dubai and, uh, or in Abu Dhabi for about, uh, almost 10 years. teaching Lambo academics and, um, and in the simulator and teaching, uh, Arab students how to fly. So I did that in, uh, Saudi Arabia, also Kuwait, uh, for a little bit of time, and then, and then also, uh, the UAE.

3:48 What was that experience like? I'm curious. it was really interesting. Um, it, it's interesting coming from our military and, you know, you, and you're used to kind of complaining and, you know, kind of bitching about the way things go and you're like, oh my God, you know? So it's, it's not that these guys are, uh, they just have a The military, their military mindset is quite a bit different than ours. You know, it's not as yeah, it's just, it's, it's a different culture, you know? But, but it was awesome at the same time because It It was, it's not as strict, I guess you can say, is that what you're trying to say? yeah, yeah. So basically, you know, like you're done at like one o'clock, you know, every day and, and then, you know, and then, uh, over in the Middle East, it's pretty cool. Like the, um, You know, they're always giving you public holidays and so really if you your contract over there It's you get about 60 days off a year and Wow.

4:32 That's nice. so anyway But yeah, so we're consulting with the you know the leadership there and uh on you know weapons and things like that uh, so I got to see firsthand the development of ai drone warfare yeah, so I would go to uh, You know different. You know trade shows and stuff like that and back even back in 2012. I was Um, saw a, uh, you know, drone swarm technology, you know, being implemented and, uh, and it's pretty next level, uh, as far as like capability. so I could see very quickly like, well, whoever's in charge of the system going to have ultimate power. A lot of people don't know, but, these systems are, um, you know, taking human life today by algorithm, meaning that you can launch a little drone system.

5:18 The thing will fly out. And I'll actually pinpoint targets on its own. So it'll like select targets and execute those targets as it determines. That is, that is actually pretty alarming. Like what's the qualification of a target? Can somebody look like somebody? So can someone wear a mask to make them look like someone else? yeah, yeah. I mean it's, it's next level. You know what I was thinking? So in that, in that, in that essence, right? It's, is it. Targeting is a system targeting based off of imagery, Yeah. So basically what it can do is that you know, the AI is brilliant and it's, it's getting better and better.

6:01 You know, that's one of the things today that You know, these AI systems are reaching IQs that are beyond humans. Obviously, I mean, they've beaten humans in every game known to man. You know, Go you know, they beat humans, you know, best chess champions. And so, you know, when you look at a battlefield, you know, it's like, well, these things can go out and then literally pinpoint. So they have like scout drones that go out and, you know, You know, recombinant area. And then if they see something, you know, they'll, they'll, uh, it's a hive mind basically. And so they all work together. And so it's a, it's a scale thing. So like the more of these devices that are out there, they all talk to each other. And then if there's some sort of, uh, you know, thing, a scout drone figures out that is, um, you know, fits the parameters for what they're trying to look for.

6:43 It basically will go out and so it can look at, uh, you can use facial recognition and you can use you know, insignia, uh, Uniforms, even vehicle types, things like that. And basically these things will come out in a swarm and then they use you know, creativity. They use problem solving. They use you know, manipulation, uh, in order to, in order to achieve whatever goal they're trying to achieve. And so they're very, very clever. So you could have, you know, so, so for attack planning, they can come up instantaneously with a brilliant attack plan, uh, and then come in from all different angles. And then execute targets, uh, you know, and so it's, it's almost impossible for a civilian or not a civilian, but like a human to be able to zap one of these things.

7:25 Um, because, you know, they have some new drones that, you know, fly 120 miles an hour. You know, and they 120 miles per hour. Yeah. Yeah. You're not outrunning that. so it's like, you know, and I'm like, all right, you know, you know, we grew up watching movies about this stuff. And, uh, and so I started to see the technology and I'm like, okay, the public doesn't know this. I mean, the public doesn't know that this capability exists. And I'm like, people have to know what the hell is going on because like it is the ultimate control tool, uh, you know, for governments or, you know, you know, You know, dictators, whatever, but it's just like, man, you, you literally can dominate an entire area with these, these weapons systems.

8:09 So these weapon systems, the AI, you have the drones that are run by AI. You have the swarm systems that. Is not exclusive to the U. S. Correct. it's actually, the U S is hamstrung by ethics. You know, so we, we, uh, you know, there's a term called fire, forget and find, uh, and so that, that is something that a lot of these, they call them munitions, basically they go out and then, uh, the launch, uh, so they fire them off, uh, an operator forgets about it. The drone itself will then, you know, find the target, locate the target. And so in the United States, you know, we have a system where it's like, it's called human in the loop. And so basically what that means is that you want to keep a human in the decision chain to make, you know, lethal decisions.

8:55 Whereas in, you know, third world countries and, you know, whatever, I mean, small dictators they don't care. And it's really just about the money. how big they can build this, uh, drone army, Wow. That's, that's alarming. it's like So you're saying that it's the, the likelihood of an, a, uh, of a drone that's being powered and run by artificial intelligence, the likelihood of that pretty much taking a life outside of the U. S. is much higher than within the U. S. So when abroad, Be mindful of that.

9:36 Is that pretty much what you're saying? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's yeah, I think that, you know, earth, you know, talk about like the, you know, the big eclipse coming up, um, this week and, uh, you know, it's, it's like, we're on the verge of a complete change of humanity. You know, and how things work, but you know, it's based on this technology. And and that's what people really need to know about is that this technology is, uh, you know, fundamentally transforming humanity. You know, almost something like a biblical level. You know, literally you talk to some of these, you know, senior engineers and, you know, tech CEOs, and, uh, and there's really a split in Silicon Valley where these guys that are pushing these systems are not pro human.

10:17 Uh, literally they, they look at humanity as a placeholder for technology, meaning that, uh, you know, as technology progresses you know, human, humans, uh, in their current form are just a placeholder. So they, they call it speciation. And so they look at this, uh, the situation where they want to speciate humans into a new species, uh, like, you know, like a caterpillar, uh, to a butterfly kind of thing, or you just completely transform. And, uh, so they look at this gift of AI as being the tool to achieve that. And ultimately like these guys are very spiritual. I mean, they you know, some of these tech CEOs, they, you can look it up. I mean, they talk about the spirituality of AI and they look at AI as being a God.

11:01 uh, and so what they want is they want an AI God and they also want an AI government. And, uh, and they believe that, you know, ASI, which is artificial super intelligence. is ultimately going to be the thing that leads humanity, you know, from here on out. so no longer will you have like governments, you'll have a single government, one world government that is run by an AI system that, uh, that has surveillance over, you know, all humanity. yeah, so, Oh yeah. You have transhumanism in that whole category where you have the bionic implants and you have Elon Musk putting the neuro, I forgot what it's called, but he's pretty much wanting to find a way to have you mentally connected to, to the, uh, the computer.

11:50 Yeah, you went, you went there. Well, it's, it's something that people should really know about No, yeah. yeah, cause it's, it's one of these things that know, the public, you know, it's like, Hey, it's, you know, it's a new iPhone. It's this cool new gadget that I get to play with and, you know, save time on homework or, you know, maybe, you know, make writing easier or whatever. And it's like, no, no, it is so far beyond that. It's, it's actually, uh, it's spiritual. I mean, I You're, you're saying that these people that are leading the charge in this technology would you, what percentage are you seeing of the people that are running the show for the development of AI and the integration of AI?

12:33 Do you see it? Just sound you tell me what's the percentage of people saying this is what we're we're gunning for ASI And we're not worried about the consequences like Yeah. And the public, if you were to say cross section of the public, I'd say it's about 23%. The pro pro human folks outnumber by good. know, but the problem is these guys that are not pro human are typically, uh, they're very smart, uh, very engineer minded. And a lot of times in tech, those guys just like launch to the top of organizations. You can look at Sam Altman, you know, you can look at, uh, you know, Peter, Peter D Mondes, you know, he talks about this stuff. You know, a lot of these like, uh, leaders in tech, I mean, this is, this is the mentality.

13:15 so, yeah. Well, doesn't Elon have a lawsuit against? the guy who Sam Altman. yeah, does he have a Lawsuit because he's saying that the guy is holding out and hiding AGI artificial generative generative You Or general intelligence, right? That's like the step below ASI, right? Yeah. And the funny thing about AGI is that they're like, yeah, AGI is like 15 minutes. So pretty much like if you can get AGI, that means it's like the, so, you know, there's some fundamental things that were not supposed to ever happen with AI that in this, you know, in this time, you know, like this, this horse AI horse race.

13:58 So, you know, it's never supposed to, um, you know, write its own code. AI was never supposed to develop its own AI agents and, and models. But you actually have, and then it was never supposed to be open, you know, allowed to access the open internet uh, and play around there. So you have an, you know, ai, of it as like Superman, you know, coming up and just inventing new ais and then, and then, and you know, in writing code very accurately. And then, and then, you know, accessing the internet to manipulate stuff. Yeah. And so, so you're like, what? that, you know, that was, that was never allowed, that was never supposed to be allowed to happen. And yet it is. And so you end up with a system where these these AI, uh, you know, so AGI artificial general intelligence you know, quickly morphs into ASI, which is artificial super intelligence, which means that it's, you know, beyond humans in every single, uh, capacity.

14:51 So, you know, like logic, reason, you know, problem solving. Decision making you know, and then, and of course it's like, you know, the depth of knowledge in any subject is endless, you know, because it's, it's AI, So you, do you think we are at AGI already? Oh, that's what, that's what I think about the whole lawsuit with, um, Elon Musk. I mean, you know, the, the, in that lawsuit know, there was a individual who worked for Google DeepMind where some of the investors in Google DeepMind recommended on behalf of humanity. We should, we should kill this guy. Because, because, we should, we should shoot him on the spot. Because of what he's pushing for, for humanity. With, with that technology.

15:31 Just to be clear, who are they trying to assassinate? Yeah, yeah Sam Altman. No, no, no I can come up with his name here in a second. But, uh, yeah, no, but it's his Uh, Dennis, uh, his name is Demis Hassabis. Okay. Hassabis is like, so in the, you know, written in that lawsuit, Hassabis, uh, was written that in the testimony in the lawsuit that that one of the investors was, was written in the lawsuit saying the best thing that could happen for humanity is to take this guy out. So for the audience, who is this DEMIS? D E M I S? yeah, Demis, uh, Hassabis. uh, and he is the, I believe he's the, the CEO of, uh, Google Beatmind.

16:15 Okay. Yeah, and yeah, but it's like, but it's just a reflection of that industry just being out of control. And so you got these guys that are not pro human. Literally, they, they, they are like, no, it's fine if humanity gets destroyed. You know, Sam Altman talked about you know, 20, 20, 2015. He, he literally has a quote where he's, he's on stage saying, yes, uh, AI will distort, destroy humanity. But in the meantime, there are going to be some amazing companies that are built. In the meantime, meaning he doesn't care. Wow. Wow. All right. Well, there's obviously a threat and I feel like, most people are digesting the threat in what we see in social media outside of the obvious terminator situation.

17:05 You have deep fakes. You have misinformation where you have the people, AI calling people and pretending their family members, and then asking for money. And now you have people that want to have code words, which I suggest you have a code word. And then the privacy breaches, but I feel like what's closer to home that most people see, because most people are, are pretty much scrolling and using social media for entertainment or for business purposes or political means communication. Those deep fakes are freaky and misinformation as well, especially leading up. I mean, right now it's beginning of April, 2024 at the time of this recording, and this is election year.

17:50 Right. And AI is just steam rolling forward. What are your thoughts on, so yeah, let's, I think there's enough buzz around the challenges and the threats to AI, but how about let's go towards the solutions. What are your thoughts on the solutions? Because that's, that's your bread and butter right here. So let's, uh, let's get into how do you feel we should solve for these threats? Yeah. And, and, you know, and it's, it's really like, uh, of me cause I created this company.

18:31 And the reason why I created it, cause I saw this coming and I'm like, we need something that counteracts this agenda and then puts humans in charge of AI. it's not one person. It's not like a small group of people. It's the people. You know, the people can be in charge of AI. And so the way, you know, that's done is through blockchain. You know, blockchain's this gift. You know, and this, you know, the ability to, you know, figure out what's, what's real and fake. And you know, work what the origin is of information and all that kind of stuff. Like, the gift of blockchain has allowed us to do that. And it's allowed us to, uh, you know, validate information. And so it's this amazing tool. So the whole concept behind the AI Trust Council is that you use blockchain polling, and then also a KYC for the individuals that are on the site that, that validates that they, one, are human and that they do exist in the real world.

19:21 that, and, and if they produce, uh, content online, that, if they start posting fake stuff, their audience members can say, hey, I think this is fake. And they could challenge the people who are posting it on it. and so someone gets a reputation for posting big stuff, then it's like, okay, it's fine. They can post whatever they want, but it's, you're just not going to trust the data that much. You're not going to trust it as being real. And, um, and so that's one of the fundamental issues going, uh, into the future is really figuring out what is real and what is fake. And, uh, so it's, you know, it's a critical moment. so the idea is, you know, with the AI Trust Council what we're doing is we're recruiting firefighters, EMTs, pilots, humanitarians, uh, military veterans basically people of trust that have, uh, literally put their life on the line or d dedicated their lives to helping other people.

20:14 And so, you know, the catch all is humanitarian. I've got five people that can attest to you being a humanitarian and you're a humanitarian, meaning that you've helped other humans, um, you know, out in some way. And so there's a characteristic with, with people where that are not pro human, where they typically don't sign up for jobs like that. They, they don't, they don't do that kind of work where they're, they're, uh, dedicated to really helping other humans. And so the idea is like, well, we want pro human people who care about humanity, you know, and not, they're not there for the money. They're not there for the power, but they're there just because they care. They want good things. They want to see good things happen to people. They don't, they don't want to see AI just, know, run over humanity.

20:54 And, uh, and so the idea is that that organization can ultimately uh, you know, form an opinion on what is good AI and what is bad AI. I mean, currently there's really no leadership, in the AI space. I mean, you have some, you know, the Rockefeller foundation, for example, you know, they're funding a big, uh, initiative right now. Um, I just talked to somebody down in South by Southwest, uh, recently, where she, this lady's getting paid to go to, uh, Lake Como in Italy to study AI governance. so the globalist you know, bankers, the money people, uh, basically they have an agenda their agenda is to steer humanity in a direction and ultimately be the leaders an AI government.

21:37 It's the one world order, you know, the new world order, the one world government, you know, and so that, uh, so these bankers are ultimately the guys that are, uh, gonna, they're, I mean, they're running the show currently and they're going to continue running it with this AI. But the thing is, it's very draconian, you know, this, this, uh, you know, these, you know, if you have something, it's artificial super intelligence and you have six foot tall robots that, you know, can make a gourmet dinner for you in your kitchen. And then also, you know, Become, you know, uh, slaughter bots and, you know, like Terminator 2 Judgment Day, you know, that, that's 2025 literally where we're, you know, months away from, you know, these, these things coming on board, uh, Tesla just came out with this, uh, humanoid robot.

22:19 Hasn't been released yet, but they're planning on releasing it for 20 grand. And this thing is like capable as, as capable as a human, but you know, potentially can be linked to AGI or ASI. And so the problem is it's like, you have this, uh, You know, warping of the mind because these, these AI are able to you know, manipulate you. And so they, and it's, and it's an all knowing thing, you know, so like your phone is, you know, listening to everything you say, your tone of voice, you know, the way your eyes move when you look at a screen, you know, the micro expressions around your eye you know, all the background information from your family and friends. You know, how you sleep, how you snore literally it's every aspect of you as a person is getting sucked up and then added to this database.

23:06 The database that they're storing underground, they're storing it out in the ocean, away from humanity, offshore. Uh, they have these little offshore islands where they're have these data centers that are immune from us law because it's Ooh, interesting. waters. so it's like, okay, well, what are they doing with all this data that they're collecting? And so that's, and so you have a banking elite are, are sucking this data up. It's the same banking elite that are steering humanity currently. You know, so if you look at the dystopia in society, you know, so you're talking about you know, homelessness, the crime being out of control you know, health being just wrecked. You know, I mean, I don't know anybody who's like truly healthy at this and it's like, what the hell is going on?

23:50 You know, and so it's this they call it the blind frog, you know, it's a slow drip, drip, drip, where they, you know, slowly you know, morph us into a new future and, uh, and they do it at a slow speed so that we don't really fight back. And so the, the technique to, you know, pushing back on these guys is, is awareness, you know, they operate in secrecy, you know, so if you can look at them and say, Hey, look, I see you, you know, it's in this, you know, I do a lot of talks. It's a moment in human history where it's like. The bankers have just gotten out of control, you know, I mean, they've literally run amok. And so it's one of these situations where it's like the wizard of Oz, you know, you pull the curtain open, you see the little guy back there, you know, pulling the levers of society.

24:31 And it's just some little dude that's like, be scared, you know, fear, panic, you know, all this stuff. it's like, who the hell are you? What the hell are you doing? You know, like, where's the transparency? And so that's when we get into blockchain as being this gift, because it's like, man, like we, you know, with blockchain, we can, you can identify like the origin of data, you know, if you know, so for the AI trust council, you're on it, you can appoint five other individuals that are your friends or family, just people that you trust and you don't have to trust their opinion, but you just have to trust it like that. They're, you know, that they're like, you know, somebody you'd give the keys to your house to, you know, something like that, you know, that you'd let them watch your dog or something, you know, somebody that you trust on that level. Then the concept is that you have a network of people who are trusted.

25:14 Connected somehow, then you can the source of data, the source of information. And, uh, and since it's a unique way to solve the alignment issue with AI. And so, yeah, there's a lot of details to it, but it's, uh, you know, so we're building the site currently right now. But I think people really enjoy it because it's, it's like, as we move into this future of You know, like what is real, what is fake and, and really having no idea because of all the deep fakes and everything else it's, it's a, it's an amazing tool because it gives some stability and it brings the internet back to the way it used to be where it's like, okay, everybody's human. Yeah, I'm trying to understand how it would work as, as are you saying that the council would be like a policing agent or would you say it's more like a social media platform that you know that you're safe on the platform?

26:07 How, how would it work for an average person that wants to use AI? Yeah. So the idea is it's, you know, if you think of like LinkedIn, uh, Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, you know, all in one site with the emphasis being on LinkedIn. You know, it's not just professional, but it, but it's, but it's your reputation, you know, so like, you know, you're on LinkedIn, you know, you, you have your you know, your networks that you've worked with and people that endorse you for different attributes that kind of thing. What we're dealing with is a is a social credit score that's coming. And, uh, and so the social credit score is going to, going to be tied to the currency through a central bank digital currency. And so, depending on how well you behave or how well you tow the line, whatever the globalists want will determine your social credit score.

26:55 And so if you have AI that can then steer, steer the behavior of the individual, then it's like, it's the ultimate you know, talk about that wizard of Oz where it's like the levers of power know, that can completely steer humanity, you know, with that. so the idea instead is like, well, how about a, uh, a system that's based on freedom, a system that. It, you know, uh, demands constitutional civil liberties and uh, you know, human rights, or, you know, your civil rights protection you know, with AI, know. So that's one of the concepts is is to, uh, install a constitutional code set, uh, and that, you know, into AI systems to where they have to abide by you know, the Constitution.

27:37 And so they can't infringe on your civil liberties, meaning that you do have privacy. You do have, you know, due process, you do have, you know, the right, the freedom of assembly, the freedom of religion, the freedom of speech, all those kind of aspects. And so if you have those things as a, as a baseline written to the code of AI, so when you have these, you know, ASI robots that are, you know, absolutely brilliant, limit their behavior. So they cannot you know, infringe on your personal rights, you know, and and so with the AI Trust Council. The idea is that it's a countermeasure to the World Economic Forum's agenda. And so the World Economic Forum is pushing this agenda that is a top down social credit score, very similar to China.

28:20 And uh, and so we're like, no. Like, you know, we're in the United States, screw you. it's Yeah, screw you. guys. it's like, so, so, so the trust council's like, uh, it's from the individual. So, so you're in full control, just like you are on LinkedIn. Just like you're on Facebook, but you personally are in control. And the idea is we have some moderation and monetization, uh, tools that, you know, get people paid for being honest. You know, so if you're, if you're honest and trustworthy you know, the only rule on the site is the golden rule, treat other people the way you want to be treated. And, and, and we empower the individuals to self govern and self, you know, self police their, their own chat rooms, their own, you know, content, and all that kind of stuff.

29:03 uh, and the idea is to, to gift this to the people, so the people have a tool to push back and, uh, and, and maintain some, some sense of freedom, uh, you know, while, while still understanding what's real and fake getting paid for it, and then ultimately helping to steer humanity, uh, and AI in a, in a pro human direction. And, Do you see it as an alternative digital ID? Whereas people are gonna was, you know, and I agree what's trying to be pushed and the plans is a digital ID with the intent to, uh, on the backend, right?

29:44 You're, it's going to limit your ability to do things and make decisions, right? You're, you're sovereign. You're, you're, you're, you're sovereignty. You're I, I'm having a hard time with that word, but you're, you're, you're civil liberties will be taken away and you'll be highly influenced. But let's say the main system, right? Or the government system, whatever, however it is. It is. Do you feel like one that is going to be a major shift or is going to be a slow transition? And then two, while that's in place, do you see this as an alternative, similar to bartering where bartering is interpersonal?

30:26 And it's a lot easier to work with somebody versus this is set in stone, whatever decision you make, because if someone gets in trouble and they can't take the bus is, you know, do you see this as an alternative idea that can be used in a, uh, community? Or do you see this more as a platform for communication? it's more platform for communication and a platform for validation. So like if you're a business owner and you say, Hey, I've got, you know, a mechanic shop or plumbing business or something like that you know, you want to have a reputation for being fair, for being honest, for being, you know, doing, you know, serving the customer correctly, you know, whatever.

31:07 But, but it's, but it's you know, like LinkedIn where, you know, the audience gets a score at the same time. You have to protect the privacy. You know, you have to be able to be anonymous. You have to be able to disappear if you want to disappear and you don't want to be tracked. You know, the whole concept is that you, you know, our metadata is being you know, used against us. You know, it's like, you know, every day you pick up your phone, you make a noise, you do anything, it creates metadata. and so that metadata is all getting sent to these data centers. And so what's happening is that you have these you know, um, tech. Elite that are not necessarily pro human and, and they're so focused on technology to the point where they're, they're happy about human extinction because they think it will, uh, you know, evolve into a, a new, uh, uh, robot, basically future we're digitized and it's called transhumanism.

32:01 the whole concept behind transhumanism. And so, you know, as we go into this future, it's It's, it's pretty disturbing. So, you know, so it's up to us to say, Hey, no, we, we have a system that's built by the people. It's for the people. And and it protects privacy. It protects constitutional civil liberties. And, uh, and so it's, so it's not a tool that can be used against us. It's a tool that we can use. I mean, it's just the internet, you know, it's just like, why do we have to end the world here? You know, we don't have to end the world. We don't have to have some dystopia. is, we know it doesn't have to get crazy. You know, it can, it can be happy, it can be good and it can be positive and pro human, you know, and, and not only that but like our tools that we have today are so empowering that we can literally like build any future that we want with AI.

32:44 so it's like, well, you know, let's have good people, you know, pro human people, you know, help build that, you know, and determine, you know, and so the way the trust council works is you know, people can poll, people can vote. and it's, you know, simple as a thumbs up, thumbs down or, you know, like some sort of poll. But every post that is made on the Antitrust Council has a a polling capability. And so the more people that interact with your poll, metadata you, you create. And so you are the owner of that metadata. So it's a Web3 platform where you're the owner. And so, so the idea is that you should own your metadata. You know, not Mark Zuckerberg, not Sam Altman, you know, not Bill Gates, but you. And so if you own it personally.

33:25 Then that becomes like your bank and it's like, okay, well now I've got all this metadata that I can then use, you know, and so depending on your metadata, you can then sell it to advertisers and then also, you know, tech companies and other organizations that want to have a data set of, uh, good pro human metadata, know, you know, most of the AI that's generated today is based off of the data set from the open internet, know? So that means that we're training AI models. to be as crazy as the open internet. And so it's like, you know, what good is that? And uh, and where are the filters? Where are the ethics? You know, all this kind of stuff. And so, uh, the idea is, you know, modeling good behavior.

34:06 Leaving it up to the people to figure out what that good behavior is. And then, and then it creates a marketplace for high quality data that you can then sell as an individual and then make a passive income if you want. You know, if you don't, if you want to just store all your metadata, you want to delete your metadata, That's what we're pushing for. We're pushing for, you know, that this is your information. You should own it. You should keep it. You should be the custodian of it and be able to control it. And so the idea behind that is not very popular in Silicon Valley because it doesn't fit the model of this globalist agenda. the globalists want total control over humanity. so, you know, all the way from your gut microbiome to, you know, your cell phone, you know, it's like everything, you know, all the way, you know, And you can see that manipulation and it's like, you know, like I said, it's a wizard of Oz curtains open.

34:57 We can see these guys finally, you know, we can see them. It's obvious, know, and it's up to us at this point to say, no, no, no, no, no. This is what we want. don't want to get speciated. don't want to, you know, lose our humanity here. We want, we want to have a pro human future, you know, and that's what we're all about. We're all about that. And supporting the individual, so Yeah, building that pro human metadata, building the, well, empowering a lot of people to be in that space of, uh, web three, which is the well, yeah, if you, if you're into crypto, you know what web three is, but it's the crypto based internet, right. Where you need a wallet to plug in, so to speak.

35:39 And, uh, I do see that. I'm having more and more conversations around that as far as solutions being on web 3, but the challenge is bridging that gap from the novice user to the person that's going to use it daily. And I, I still feel like it's in the beginning stages, but there are, you know, A growing amount of people, companies that are building on on that. My question to you actually is since it is web three based and it's on a blockchain, which blockchain did you go with? I'm Yeah, so right now we're, we're operating, it's Jack Dorsey's platform. Noster is what, uh, A ITC is built off of. And so we're, we're doing development right now, and so we, we may switch, but, uh, but right now it's on Noster yeah.

36:26 So it's, cool. there's really good, uh, you know, protections for privacy and, and things like that, and the ability to communicate. Um, anonymously and whatnot. So that's, it's brilliant. Trying to remember. There's a, uh, a company that's working on building a social media platform. They have a blockchain and it is built for social media, like decentralized, uh, social media. I think it's called DSO. okay. And I think that would be something very, very similar and aligned with what you're working on. I would totally, if you're not aware of it, I would totally, totally check that out. They're in a bit, they're in a bit, uh, beginning stages as well.

37:08 But, they're more on the, uh, Building the block chain and the network to support something like what you're building interesting enough. Yeah. And, and so it's kind of interesting'cause I feel like, you know, there's a wavelength going on right now where a lot of people are, are, uh, feeling the same thing. You know, they're like, look, like, you know, we see where this is going and, you know, we're not, we're not, we're not going down with a ship here, you know, it's like, let, let, let's create some cool products. Let, let's keep the internet fun. Cool. Interesting. You know, but not dystopian to the point where, you know, we lose our humanity. We, we lose fan. know, we lose, you know, what it is to be a human, you know, it's like, what good is that?

37:49 Yeah, and to your point, I do agree. There's a wave of people that are working on and that's why I started this pod, but this podcast, because there is a wave of people that are finding better ways to do things. To do things and you're on the side of the safety of integrating AI into our lives, because the people that are in charge, like you said, they're not pro most, mostly not pro human, which is very scary. And it also reminds me of there's, there's also an increasing amount of shows and movies that are talking about the potential future. Like it's a, like, is it.

38:30 It's an advertisement. Are you familiar with the Netflix series black mirror? There was an episode where there was that social credit score, and it came out just before China really built out their system and I see. Yours being something that would compete against, uh, if anything, on, like you said, like on the community on, on the communication side of things. So, yeah, I feel like, there's a lot of opportunity out there. There's a lot of things that need to be fixed or done better. So I, I do appreciate you stepping in and, and finding solutions.

39:12 With your company, with your background, do you, do you see integrating what you saw with the drone warfare in the future? I'm actually curious. Yeah, no, I think it's absolutely critical that, you know, militaries and well, it's really, we need leadership, you know, and right now there's this complete vacuum of leadership worldwide. uh, and my, my take on that is actually in order to, um, you know, the whole agenda is to create this surveillance system. That's basically like a, you know, social credit score system. But basically it's going to tie all cameras together and all devices together through the internet of things that then becomes like the ability, you know, it's the ultimate, you know, think of the KGB on absolute steroids to the moon, you know, it's like, like, you know, so it's, it's really like minority report.

40:02 You know, you, you have that where you have mine to device interface. Now you have some patents coming out that have been filed and whatnot. And, and literally these, uh, you know, the ability to suck in all data, understand exactly what a person's thinking, doing you know, it's an unbelievable amount of power, uh, if you can do that through an entire society. And uh, and so you can look at China, you know, so China, you know, and, and, and humans are they're programmable, you know, so you, you, you can program humans, you know, we're, we're, you know, our IQs aren't that high, you know, and you have these AI systems that are, you know, going into the billions. You know, that's right around the corner, you know, 1 billion IQ AI is right around the corner. And so you have that and it's like, well, how do you compete with that?

40:44 How, how do, how do you look at your phone you know, you'll talk to this AI, you know, so once AGI is out, it will look like a God, you know, it will look like and that's what these guys want. And that's what Sam Altman is, uh, hinting at that, you know, they come across is that it's a breathtaking, uh, moment. Or you look at your phone, and it just knows everything about you better than a human would, and it's like, it's like you have a brilliant human being in your pocket. The problem is that you humans are, will start to relate to that device, and then form a relationship with it. And, you know, just like humans can get manipulated in an abusive relationship with someone it's the exact same thing with AI. You know, the AI can then manipulate, you know, human behavior.

41:27 and so if you think about a social credit score You know, like black mirror, it's like, you know, you could see how dystopian that can get very, very quickly. And the whole idea is that we do not want a system like that to be used against people so they can't, trade, you know, buy things, you know, if, if their social credit score is low. So you want, you know, this new system to be based in gold and silver backed currency, um, so that it's something in the physical world that is real. You know, so you can use blockchain for that, but ultimately you want gold and silver to be the backbone of whatever currency is in the future so that people can always, go to California and dig in a river and you'll, you can still get some money. You know, you don't want, you don't want individuals to be completely blocked based on something they've said about the government or something they said about XYZ.

42:12 not popular. You want them to still be able to have the ability to, to live and thrive, you know? So, and yeah, so. it's interesting how you brought up gold and silver as something that would, uh, be a big part of it and backing gold and silver backing crypto with gold and silver. There's a lot of buzz around that. because to your point, yeah, if you can trouble for saying, speaking up, even if it's not even, it's politically wrong and the governing body doesn't like what you said, yeah. Your credits are going to be limited, right?

42:54 But if it was backed by gold and silver, and you found a way to physically obtain it, you could technically sell that. And in exchange to get currency that you wouldn't have been able to obtain due to whatever blockage you have. So yeah, it, again, it can get this, this conversation get really, really deep and. Detailed. Right? Yeah, I mean, it's a rabbit hole. It's a crazy rabbit hole. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, yeah, critical, critical moment that you know, we bring it up, you know, and then at least get the people kind of like, uh, interested in talking about it and then aware because the awareness is what's lacking right now.

43:36 Because, you know, it's literally you got a trillion dollar, you know, marketing machine that is pushing, you know, this, you know, this AI rollout. And it's like, Oh, the fanfare, all the, you know, it's Hollywoodization of, uh, you know, tech and you got all these guys that walk out on stage and, you know, it's all this, you know, and, and, and so they're doing all that. And so everybody claps, but it's like literally the destruction of humanity is underway. yeah, it's not, it's not a good trajectory. So we, we, uh, we broke down your solution. We broke down the problems. If anybody is looking to get more into the AI Trust Council, is it in development stages?

44:26 Entirely, or can people try it out and test it out? so right now we just have a landing page. we're building out right now. And, uh, we have an app that's rolling out here soon too and so, yeah, we're, we're right on the verge of, of getting it out, but but yeah, so they can go to the, as in the, AITC. com, uh, and please sign up all the people that sign up today you know, we're, we're taking early membership and then you know, and, and, uh, yeah, so please get, get involved and and get on the list because we, we want good pro human people to be a part of this whole thing and Yeah, and you want to have a place online that can be a home of truth and honesty and you know, pro human intention, so It's almost like a decentralized social media on Web 3 pretty much.

45:10 And then you're able to generate income because you're creating content, bringing awareness, but you want it. The consensus, the vibe to be pro human. Do you have a, um, when, when someone signs up, how do you make sure that someone is a pro human outside of their background of profession? Yeah, it is and they could be not pro human, you know, it's fine, you know, whatever but but the idea is that it's it gives it's a platform that you can operate from and And put information out and it gives some validity to it because it's like, okay At least I know where it came from, you know, there's six degrees of separation for everybody on earth So it's like okay like Yeah, if you post something like, you know, let's say your, your, your, you know, family's, uh, you know, boss's sister posted something and because I know you, you know, I can, I can connect that and, and be able to determine like where it came from and, and I can actually validate it and be like, Hey, do you know, you know, that we have a system for validation and, Do you have, can validating images or videos?

46:16 Yeah. How would you do that? Yeah. So basically we're, we're white labeling some of the best in the world you know, software that is a filter. So basically it can identify, uh, AI, uh, generated imagery and videos and also text. Text is not perfect. Anybody who says the detection software is perfect, it's not. Um, and so that's where we came up with the whole concept of you know, knowing the origin. You know, so basically it's like you have to, uh, look at the you know, the real world and, and, you know, how is trust established in the real world. Well, it's like, you know, if somebody says something, the first thing do is like, well, how do you know them? Who are they? What's their background? You know, like that kind of thing. Do they have a reputation for being honest? You know, that kind of thing, so.

46:57 That reminds me, do you ever get any pop ups for movie trailers, like the sequel to Back to the Future 4, or John Wick 7, or something like that, and you're like, this looks good, and it's all AI generated, and it's just a spoof, like a fan made thing, how do you, how would you address that? I don't know. you want to, so if someone's on the trust council you know, social media, basically you just, you identify, is this AI generated or human? I uh, and it's up to the, the, the content creator to mark it as like, Hey, I used AI. Or, you know, or this is totally pro human. Or not pro human, but actually human Hey everybody.

47:39 So due to technical difficulties, we had to cut the episode short. Who knows? Maybe it was AI or some unknown entity wanting us to just shut up and stop bad mouthing AI and, the deep fakes and all that. But it looks like some promising projects starting up in the future, including Christopher's AI trust council. That looks pretty cool. So yes, we're ending the show right now. This is like one of those things where it's good to be aware of the threats and that there are solutions out there. With that said, thank you for joining us today. And if you want to connect with Christopher, all the content will be in the show notes or just go to the A I tc.com and that's his website for the project that he mentioned, which is the AI Trust Council.

48:29 Again, thank you for joining me today, and I'll see you out on the next episode. Peace.