#38 | Getting Back to Nature with Structured Water

0:00 So I had two harmonizers in there, and and the neighbor who swam all the time, I, I asked her if she noticed anything different in the pool. She said, my, my towels in my bathing suit don't have. That chlorine smell anymore. And she said, and my eyes aren't burning in the pool Welcome to the new HQ in podcasts. Today, we're going to be talking about structured water. You know, that magical version of water that improves everything it touches. Yeah. That one. But today we're going to go even more of a deeper dive into the very specifics on lots of really cool stories. We're going to talk with Gary Greenfield, who is a leading expert in structured water and the founder of Greenfield water systems.

0:41 So without further ado. Let's talk about water. P B. Okay, that was Courtney. I'm sorry. Gary, welcome to the show. Thanks for having. Yeah. Well, thank you for coming on. I'm delighted to be here. John. Thank you for inviting me. No problem. We, it. Right off the bat, I would say right off the bat, your energy is awesome, and I feel like as we have this conversation, it's going to exude. So you listening, anybody out there just, soak it in. We're gonna have a really interesting conversation. I, what I wanted to do is I, I wanted you to get you on because I heard you on, on another show and you went into some very interesting topics of in, in water and you have your own filtration.

1:24 system company. So, what I would like to do is get into what got you into water. I, I know you were into health prior to, to this and other Yes. Ways of helping people heal, but like, wh why water? What made you say, you know what, I'm going head first into water. Yeah. Well, I read a book by Victor s Schauberger, and it was, it was just, uh, it just captured my, my soul, my heart. Just was amazing. You know, I just had, it was one of those moments where I, you know, it, it's like not realizing the value of something and all of a sudden, you know, I. you took it for granted for all these years and it just opened up into all these wonderful benefits that I just never consciously was aware of.

2:11 You know? And then of course, we all know water is essential for life and mm-hmm. You know, it's everywhere. And we know we love to be around water and I grew up around water, so I mean, I, I absolutely, I, I grew up in South Florida and I was involved with every water sport there was. And, uh, but it was different. You know, it's a, it's a different thing when, you know, I just, I, whatever. I don't know, maybe it was just my age or whatever, but when I read Victor s Schauberger just opened up a whole new world to me. I was enthralled by it. Just fascinated. And, and how it's, you know, and how it all encompassed. The combination of phys, the physicality of creation, and the energies of creation, you know, coming together in this perfect marriage, you know, uh, Victor Schauberger, when I first heard about him, I was amazed I started going down that, that, I don't wanna say rabbit hole, but just, just going into the information.

3:03 I, I wanna read the books that go over and if you wrote a book and Like, what fascinated me was he created technology around it, like, propulsion around it. I'm, I'm actually curious before we dive into to water. Well, we are diving into water, but, um, he used water and I think vortices for propulsion. What, uh, what are your thoughts on that? Yeah, well, yeah, that's, uh, you know, that's one of the primary components and for Victor, I mean, it was everything. You know, the vor, the Vortex action, you know, it's the. It's the active, it activates the energies, you know, that are all around us. Because when that, when that water's moving like that, it's pulling in beneficial energies from the field and at the same time that action is throwing off, uh, negative energies.

3:51 So, and, and it works in a physical way, in a, in an energetic way, you know, in that. They even, you know, there's spin down filters that are made that vortex in one direction and, and that's what they do. And that vortex causes the, the heavy stuff in the water to be thrown out, you know, to be thrown out of the stream of the water and to drop down below where it can be flushed out. And, uh, you know, but it doesn't, that's how it's advertised. But at the same time, you know, those vor, that vortex action is pulling in. Anything beneficial from the field as well. Actually, it's pulling in anything from the field, so it's whatever we subject it to, it will accept.

4:32 It's like a humble servant. It just does whatever we want it to do, which can be for good or for evil. Mm. And you know, and that's, so it's really, it reflects, you know, on the consciousness of our being, our intent, our, you know, if, if we, whatever energies we hold, that's what's going to. Uh, the water's going. The water is what holds those energies. The water is what, what stores those energies in each one of us. It's like the computer that stores the, it's the hard drive that stores the information, which is the energetics. The hard drive is the physical part, which is the water and the information is the energetics, which, which emit not only that are, you know, within the water from the field, but also within the water from what's contained within.

5:21 The water, the elements in the water you know, because the, the physical is there simply to carry the energetics. And that's, you know, I mean the physical of course adds a component of aesthetics, you know, to energies because I mean, without matter you can't know energy. And without energy you can't know matter. You know, they both depend on each other. Mm-hmm. In order for, for us to even know what existence, that's, that's what, what our existence consists of. His, his energy and matter. And you Yeah. You, you actually went somewhere and I, I don't remember learning about this or hearing about this. You were saying how you know the vortex, right?

6:01 The spiral action of the water coming down naturally. Right. It pulls in like a humble servant, the energies around it, and I always assumed that it would. Pull positive energy, positive, not in a sense of the ions, but just beneficial energies. And you're saying sometimes it'll pull like a humble servant, whatever's around it. Um, whatever we subject it to, you know, it's the, it reflects the, the creation concept, you know, of, of. Of the Hebrews who wrote the Old Testament, you know, based on what you know. I mean, Moses, who was the originator, he was the writer of the creation story, you know?

6:44 Uh, It was a download from God. God revealed it to him. And, and within that he said, you know, I'm giving, you know, he taught him or revealed to him that when, you know, when, when he put placed mankind on earth, he gave us the earth as a gift and said, you know, you have dominion over, it's yours. Do with it as you will, you know, enjoy it. And of course, you know, his desire was that we. Be responsible and that we enjoy it and enjoy him. But but from the get go, we were irresponsible and that, that, that, uh, trade has not left mankind. Mm-hmm. Since the beginning. Now are you saying because yeah, we definitely know that, um, there's some negative energy out there and it's easier to be on in the negative side of things, and is that why people put crystals around the and, and in and out and throughout the body of that system?

7:38 So it pulls the energy from those crystals? Like you can kind of mix what kind of input depending on the crystals and the minerals. Yeah. Well there, you know, there, there's. I would say there's the energies that benefit us physically, but they do nothing really for our our consciousness. Mm-hmm. You know, it's really our consciousness, our spirit, our, our soul that directs that is a, the body is there to hold the spirit. To hold the soul. And so yes, we can focus on. Attending to the needs of the body and enhancing health. But if, but it's a waste of time if we're not, if we're not feeding the soul and paying attention to the soul and the spirit and, and, uh, and the, and it's health, which is in a different level.

8:29 It, it's a, it's not, it's not, uh, the remedies aren't physical that deal with the soul and the spirit. They're more of, uh, conscious actions. They're more of moral actions, you know, or immoral actions, you know, actions that are beneficial or actions that are detrimental. I mean, just like their physical actions, you know, or physical entities or ma you know, materials that are beneficial or not. But, you know, and just like water, water holds physical, uh, inf or it, it really, it shows us. The presence of some energies within the water. We know they're present because we can see the physical presence of that, which is giving off the frequencies, you know, the energies.

9:10 So they're both there. But, but, but oftentimes, you know, the, there's no physical presence, but there's information that reflects a physical present, but that's not contained within the water. That's what homeopathy is really based on. Mm. Okay. But I'm kind of getting lost there and mixing up the spirit and the soul from flesh, but Yeah. But, but they're definitely, they're separate. So it's like we can attend to the needs of the body or we can attend to the needs of our you know, of our mental. Health. But even then, mental health can be affected by physical, by nutrition. Mm-hmm. You know, or by a lack of, you know, I mean, it's been proven. I think it's Ortho, Molecular Psychiatry.

9:51 Mm-hmm. Okay. Uh, addresses that in that, they've proven that particular elements. Or nutrients can, can cure things like schizophrenia. You know, that oftentimes people are mentally ill because of a, a nutritional deficiency, which affects the brain. But again, that's different than you know, there's, I don't, there's no nu nutri, there's no, uh, nutrient that can affect your moral condition. That's what the difference is, there's spiritual. Medicines and there's physical medicines and the spiritual medicines sometimes get conflicted or mis or confused or, or misunderstood.

10:31 And people think that a physical medicine can take care of a spiritual issue, but it's only a, a spiritual, uh, medicine that can take care of a. A spiritual issue, which is more important actually, than the physical. I hope I'm not getting off into Well, so I'll, I'll, um, I'll summarize what I think you're going into wh where the water itself is going to help with the body. Um, but you can still be a person who's lost spiritually, uh, and be a really healthy person. But at the same time, from what I understand, you can also it, it, it would take a different type of method. That the water may or may not be able to help with, which and a method, that method would be for the spiritual sense.

11:14 Like, there's an energetic there, like I believe that water has a conscious, I've heard it a, a lot of times water is living it ha it carries light and light carries information and maybe that can there could be a spiritual aspect of that as well, where it could be a prayer into it. You can have a, I, you know, I, I, I can, I'm willing to bet that you can put a prayer on your bottle and it'll do something to the water structure-wise, you know? Do you think that is, is that where you were going? Whereas is it, is there two separate ways to go about it, so to speak? Yeah. Well, water carries consciousness. It doesn't have its own consciousness. It has its own pre-programmed. Responses to particular situations.

11:56 It's kind, it's a computer that's been, it's literally a computer with that has been, that holds the programs that have been placed there by the creator. Mm-hmm. A program requires a programmer. Right? and it's the same thing with, with the earth and water. Water is the computer, but it needed a program in order to be able to do anything, you know, otherwise it's just, it's just like a computer that's turned off. It's just a physical entity. Mm-hmm. But but it, it was programmed by the creator. Who put within it, you know, this is what you do in this situation. There's a bazillion, gazillion different, you know, you know, formulas or algorithms or whatever, you know, that were created for that.

12:38 So, but it's, but it doesn't, the consciousness, it actually reflects the consciousness of God, but, It can also reflect the consciousness of mankind. So it's a duality because we are made in the image of God, so it will reflect our image. And, and in, in that we were, and that humankind was built or formed in the image of God. We have the same attributes in many ways, in that we are many creators. We, you know, the, the ultimate creator is the one who created the heavens and the earth because it was created, you know, I mean, It came from somewhere. It didn't just happen because if that's, you know, where did that, which just happened, happen from, you know, it's like, yeah, yeah, there's gotta be a greater somewhere back there, you know?

13:21 And, and just like with us. So, so, yeah. I think, um, what you were, so I think, uh, another way that people are used to, when they do dive into water, what they're used to thinking about that subject matter is structured water, right? Where. The structure is the programming and harmonizing the water via structure, correct? Well, the, the structure is reflective of, of input, of information, and, you know, just as in chaos, you have disorganization, right? Mm-hmm. Malformation is information, but it's in a malformed state, right? and so when you subject water to natural, Phenomena, vortexing and beneficial energies.

14:08 You get a, an organized, state, you get a structured state even though it's dynamic. But you know, it's just like us. We're dynamic. You know what it's like. People say, oh, how can water be structured? It's just, it's, you know, just flows everywhere and there's no, it's not, you know, how, how do you see structure in that? Well, I mean, it's no different than humankind. You know, we, we move all over the, but we have, you know, there's definitely a structure to it all. And when it's structured properly and moving properly, it's beautiful. Everything, everything that has, that is structured properly. Uh, has a beautiful form, whether it's, whether it's in a still like a flower or whether it's in a, the form of a dolphin going through, you know, swimming through, you know, moving through the water when you know there the, when the energy is good or natural and the movement is natural, then it's a beautiful form.

14:58 You know, it's in an informed state, in a structured state. Uh, I was actually, um, wondering, I remember on, on another show and in general knowing that when you start to structure water and you put it through these different systems, And you, let's say, um, you poured into a chlorinated pool or a like a, a murky pond, it does something to it just because of the structure. Could you elaborate on that a little? Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Or you can share like a specific story. It's, it's, well, and again, it's not the structure, it's the information that creates a structure so it goes deeper.

15:39 Mm-hmm. Uh, the catalyst is the information in the water and a little bit of information can have quite an impact. On, on the, on its environment, just as we're, as, as the information I'm sharing with you, it can have an impact on you and everybody that's listening or, I mean, it's gonna have some kind of, if it's either gonna be dull and boring and, you know, you zone out and tune out and do something else, or it's gonna be engaging or, you know, everything in between. Um, and, but, and water's the same way. For instance, you know, I've, I've done so many different kinds of experiments. Uh, when I was living with my mom when she was older, I was, uh, Taking care of her. And she was in a condo, uh, and the condo associate had a pool, and I wanted to put one of my structuring devices in there, and they wouldn't let me because, you know, it was, it was a liability.

16:26 They didn't know what it was or what it would do. And so, so in the middle of the night, I just took one of my harmonizers and I went out and buried it next to the, next, to the pump line, the recirculation line, and I put another one. I, I, I opened up, I went down with the screwdriver and opened up the, the, the lid to the skimmer at the deep end. Took quite a few times to get down there, but I did it and I put it in there and I put it back on. So I had two harmonizers in there, and and the neighbor who swam all the time, I, I asked her if she noticed anything different in the pool. She said, my, my towels in my bathing suit don't have. That chlorine smell anymore. And she said, and my eyes aren't burning in the pool. And I thought, okay, it's this great, it's working.

17:08 But, and you know, and I've taken a harmonizer and dropped when I was in India, I dropped one in a water tank. Everybody has water tanks on their houses. That's where they store their water. And they always have biofilm build up because there's heat. You know, it's hot. And it's, and so I, I put a harmonizer in a tank and sure enough, after a week or so, the biofilm on the tank start, start, start to dissipate. So yeah, there's all kinds of, you know, situations, you know, and I've done muscle testing where I just put a. You know, which is kind of a rudimentary way to determine, you know, some kind of change. And, you know, it can, it can be accurate or not, but, but, uh, many times I've just put a drop of structured water in a swimming pool and then, you know, did a muscle test on somebody before and after not, you know, I.

17:50 Not just, just random, you know? And, and they went, you know, I'd show'em how they went week, week when they, when there was nothing in there. I put a drop in the pool and they went strong, you know, so, yeah. It's pretty amazing how that is amazing how the power, yeah. So the harmonizer, and maybe I'm not familiar, can you elaborate on what the harmonizer is? Is it like a, like, does it flow through the harmonizer? Because it sounds like you're just dropping something in. No, it's a sealed cartridge. It's, it's, it contains, it contains, various minerals and all the elements of the puric table and, and embedded in, in a spring water. And so it's just, uh, it is just like a hard, you know, it's like a thumb drive, you know, it's got all this information, but it never run, you know, it's, the information's always there.

18:38 It's no different than your computer, you know, it's, it's based on form, function, frequency. Wow. So the, the form determines the frequency and the frequency determines the function just like a musical instrument. Wow. You know, that's, that's the same principle. So it's, it's perpetual. And you know, when you were mentioned before we started the. The podcast about technology and free energy and, and Oh yeah. It's, it's readily available, but we're not gonna see, it's not gonna see the light of day in, in, in a, in a big way, only because again, it goes back to that corrupted nature of mankind. Hmm. And so it sounds like it's, so you're, you're saying this thing just because it exists within the vicinity of water.

19:25 It's emitting the frequency, it's emitting the information continuously because of what's inside of it. Ye well, yeah. It's inter with that information, like I said, it's based on form, function, frequency. The form is interacting. It's like, and again, this goes back to the creation story and the beginning was water. That's, that was the beginning. That was the ingredients. That was the, the, but the water was dark. It was empty and it was still so, It was water, but it was nothing. It's a mystery. You know, that that's, it's like, what is that? What can that be? And. And then God created light, and that's the energy.

20:06 Mm-hmm. So you have energy and then, then the light activated the water. And out of the water he pulled all the elements which made, which are 92. You know, as far as we're aware, maybe more or less, other than the ones mankind is made, which aren't really elements or, well, they're just corrupted forms of, of something that's already been created, but but the water became activated. It became it became, it, it went from, from invisible to visible, and it went from being nothing to something. And what did that, the light, so the energy. Which is, and when I say light, I don't mean the sunlight, I mean light in general energy, which is all around us.

20:47 It's we're immersed in this energy and the sun is just a, is just a manifestation. The moon or manifestations of that energy you know, there are a form, there are material form. That was made with a particular recipe that God gave it because of its form, it has a particular interaction with the energies that creates the frequencies which we enjoy, which is, which we manifest with heat and with light And that benefit our body in the same way the, the Foy that the moon was formed. It has its own energy. We're lied to about what the moon is and what the sun are in many ways, but other, that's a, that's another whole nother subject that that could be a different show.

21:27 Yeah. But the moon is its own separate entity and it also emits energy, but its energy is a cold energy. As a matter of fact, you can, this is a very simple experiment. Take one of those little laser temperature. Guns where you can shoot, you know, you just pointed something and would tell you the temperature, take the temperature of, of at night with, in, in the shade of the moon, like when it's a full moon. And then take the temperature in the moonlight, you know, of the, just the ground and the ground that's shed, that, that's ex, that, that isn't shaded will be two degrees cooler. Than the shaded area. The shaded area will literally be hotter, and that, that's just a manifestation of, of the type of energy which is emitted from the moon, which is a cold energy.

22:13 It's not a heat energy, but we see light. Oh, it's, you know, it's just a reflection of the sun. Well, it's not, it's its own light source and it's a mystery. That's actually, um, that I always wondered about that. You know, how, um, we have all these complex systems to heat up things, right? And like just as. Certain lamps create heat or certain frequencies like that would be, that would be so cool if there was some type of, uh, like rock or mineral. Like you can have a moon rock reflecting light and it's cooling down the house. Like literally, like, like I, I, I can only wonder if that's like the coolest.

22:54 Air conditioning in existence. Yeah. A moon rock with light bouncing off of it in the house. Yeah. It, it, it's possible. I mean, you know, anything that we see in nature we can mimic and harness. We've been given that, that gift. From God to do that. And many times we see those manifested, but if it's a really significant thing, Somebody with a lot of money, some corporation, you know, buys it and it gets shelved. Or it gets used for diabolical purposes and we never really, you know, understand it because it's hidden. Right. Just to berg, you mentioned s Schauberger actually, he do you know the story of what happened to him at the end of his life? Um, Please share.

23:35 Okay. Yeah. Well, he, he was a genius and he, he observed nature and he observed things in nature that very, very, very few people understood. And and the American government, which is very diabolical, but I should probably even, anyways, I'm not gonna get into that either, other than to say that, that after World War II, they knew about his work. In developing these en these energies and harnessing them and creating literally the flying saucer, he was the one behind the technology, which is not science fiction. It's true. That created this immense amount of energy just from using vortex and air and, technologies that are hidden. And what happened, uh, our government working through private enterprise of course, because much of.

24:21 The big, many of the big corporations are all intertwined with government. They, they brought Victor s Schauberger over to America and, and promised to pay him all kinds of money, you know, to set him up for the rest of his life when he was 58 years old. Or was in his late fifties and, and they said, bring everything you've ever done. Bring all your patents, bring all your writings. We're gonna buy everything from you and, and you know, we're gonna take care of you and you get to live in America, you know, land of the free. And, and, um, so he came and they put him up in a de in the desert in Texas with his son. He couldn't, Victor couldn't speak English and um, And they stayed there. They caught everything and they gave him nothing and left him there.

25:01 And finally, after so many months of leading them on and leading them on he said, you know, noth this, I've just given everything I have away. I've trusted these people. I have nothing. And he went and he flew back to uh, to Europe, to Austria. And within, I think within a year or so, he passed away. A very broken man. Wow. Which wasn't much different than what had happened to Tesla. And the same thing our government went in to, took everything. When he passed away, they took it all. And so they, they've taken all these technologies from two of them, two geniuses of the 20th century who. One had a very major impact on the world. And the other one you know, in more of a natural, in a different way, had an impact.

25:44 They both did. Tesla is more popular of course, but Right. But our, our, you know, government identified both of these men and were able to take their resources, you know, I mean, I won't get into the rest of it. Sure. But that's, yeah. But that's, yeah. So that's, that's the story about Victor. Wow. It's a sad story, but it's also like an eye-opener too, to kind of give you a heads up that you know, If, if that makes sense and if that's a true story, right. Let's just say, say something skeptical. Yeah. Let's say that is a true story. That means a lot of things. That means that in those times we had that capability, that technology and those times we're talking about what, the late 18 hundreds, correct?

26:28 Uh, well, no, Victor Shelby, this is 19 in the late fifties. Oh, okay. So that's when passed away. That's even more insane, you know? Yeah, yeah. Tesla passed away in the same, you know, around sixties actually, I think. Oh, wow. Okay. I think it was around the early ire. I think it was, maybe I'm wrong, but it was, it was, uh, but 50 years ago, 20th century. It wasn't so long ago. Like, like 70? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like 70 years ago was was 19 50. And, um, We're talking about this amazing technology and we're we're having conversations of what could have been, and it's 70 years past. So I do feel like we're at a time where, because of the internet, because of us right now, being able to communicate and have the opportunity to create, um, it's, it's a matter of time where it's going to you.

27:16 You can't stop everybody. If, if ever, if enough people have the information, um, they're just gonna figure out themselves. You don't, they don't. Need to sell it, everything's free. Right. So you just need need, you need knowledge, and you take action. And that's why I, I appreciate you taking action and creating your company and creating these products and doing those crazy things where you, uh, in the middle of the night dropping a harmonizer in a pool just to do your own experiments. You didn't let anybody stop you. You're like, I'm gonna figure this out. So that's like a, yeah, that's an awesome spirit of, um, someone that just won't let. Things, stop them. I, we are, we're actually at a point where I want to give some people that are part of our chat, our, uh, podcast chat on Telegram.

28:03 They had questions for you and I wanna honor those questions. Does that, does that work for you? Sure. Yeah. All right, cool. The first question is, do you think that fluoride is indeed as big of a deal in terms of toxicity as people make it to be? Oh, absolutely. It's a, you know, it's a, it's a pollutant that comes from smokestacks, you know, where they've smelted aluminum or from phosphate mining. It's a sodium fluoridate, which is an industrial pollutant, which is different from the element fluoride, you know, which combines it's very, uh, it's kinda like a chloride. It, it combines, you know, with, with anything around it very.

28:44 Very strongly, and it's very, it's the most, one of the most difficult pollutants to remove from water once it's been put in very difficult. Mm. And, and, and its greatest impact is on the brain. It, it literally works to pacify us to, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And the, the, the pineal gland, um, being a very interesting part of the body and blocking that is just not a good story. Well, for and I'm guessing that your systems help with blocking fluoride or, or at least someone Well, right. Yeah. Well, there, yeah. Without getting too much into it, you know, I, I've been, when I entered the filter, The water treatment industry.

29:28 You know, I was mostly in structured water, which is a whole different, you know, it's outside the industry. But I just, I realized that in order to get this technology into the water industry, I had to go through the water. I. Treatment system, which you know, is big on filtration, but more so on reverse osmosis and salt based softeners, which are both not mimicking nature and which have a detrimental impact on, on vitality and health. But what I, what I did find also was that the filtering capabilities of the various carbons were either disappointing or there was enough misinformation to keep people from really accessing the things that were most beneficial. And so, so that's what we've been working on is, is trying to perfect, you know, filtering capabilities so that we could remove these, these toxins like fluoride, arsenic, and, and nitrates.

30:19 Mm-hmm. And, and doing it in as natural of a way possible. That's the trick. Yes. And that, yes. And that's been the challenge because we're, you know, we. We've had to start with not a lot of information. You know, I've had to partner with others that, that have the capabilities to, to, you know, deal with things. And from, from a, you know, from a perspective that I haven't been exposed to, you know, my focus has been elsewhere on, you know, energy and vortexing, right. And its effects. Which is, uh, an a needed viewpoint and needed place. The second question is, do you think structuring water, is more important than filtration and.

31:04 If so, does the structuring help with sequestering toxins? I think you kind of covered this, but like maybe elaborate. Yeah. Well, filtering is a natural process, so it's really like you can't separate them. We need both of them in order, but of course, filtering is completely, Taking over the water treatment industry, and nobody talks about structuring, you know, vortexing and energy transfer. So, so based on that alone, I'm a hundred percent behind structuring and energizing being number one only because it's, it's so sorely neglected in the water treatment industry. I mean, it's completely. Invisible.

31:45 At the same time, yeah. I mean, I've, I've purified sewage water with vortexing and energy transfer alone and drank the water after it was treated. And then how did it taste? It was wonderful. I, it was, um, I, I had tested what, I was in India. I tested, uh, lake water, which was fed by water treatment. It was in a city of 25 million. Mm. And I took two gallons, put it in a plastic tub, and then, uh, then hooked it up with a handheld, Texer with the harmonizer in it and with a little aquarium pump and covered it up. No filtration at all, just movement and energy. And, um, and I tested for coliform and e coli every day. And, uh, after one week, all the, the coli was gone, which was the fecal matter, you know, fe the, the bacteria that.

32:30 Microbes that eat fecal matter. And uh, after two weeks, the coliform was gone, which was significant. And that was that organic. That was organic, more material in the water. You could see it, it's gone. Totally gone. Wow. And so it was at that point where I had to test testify a professional lab, and it came back, confirmed that there was no coliform coli, and I drank it and it tasted wonderful. Wow. That actually goes back around to a question I had, which is, uh, first of all, that's insane. And it's interesting how it took some time to do it. So it's like it, there was a process, there's a timeline, and um, do you think it has to do with, um, the amount of water? Like, like a, like a tub versus a pond?

33:10 I'm guessing? It'll take longer for a pond, right? For Well, you'd use a bigger, you know, bigger. Yeah. I mean, we've put these, we've put four textures into. Wastewater treatment plants and the odor immediately dissipated the odor. Wow. You know, not everything else, but there are things that happen immediately. You know, I've had, I've got tests showing an immediate reduction, one pass through with polluted water, chlorides and sulfates reducing by 10 to 15%, you know, at 35% reduction in chemical. What was that? Chemical oxygen demand think is what, but yeah, I mean, significant changes just by an immediate, you know, just immediately, I mean, well we, I know there's immediate, you know, all kinds of tremendous things that happen immediately because of all the work we've done in agriculture, in farming where one pass through saves 30% in water consistently.

34:01 It's not like, oh wow. You know, it's an anomaly. It happens every time. It's one of the attributes of what happens when you vortex water and energize. 30% reduction in chemical use, that's across the board. Every time a farmer puts one of these in, they have to reduce their chemical inputs by 30% and their water usage by 30% to equal what they used to do. Mm-hmm. So, so, you know, that's one passthrough. And not only that, but you know, the, there's increase in productivity, decrease in mold, pest. The water doesn't stand on the, you know, in, in puddles anymore. It sinks right down into the ground. It balances the, the elemental concentrations with within the soil. Wow. It's mind boggling, but it changes the nutrient level, you know, nutrient value on the taste, texture of the fruit, better form fruit, larger fruit.

34:48 It will bring trees that are dying, you know, that are at the end of their age, like 30 year old almond trees. They get, you know, it prolongs their life. Wow. It's just Wow. You know, and that, that's not by going through, you know, but there are other things. If it was in a wastewater treatment plant where they're consistently, you know, moving that water around and around and around, because you see those things well, in that kind of situation, would just make that whole system more efficient. Wherever you put structured water, just, you know, in its natural state, that's what we're doing. We're not doing anything unnatural or supernatural. All we're doing is bringing water back to, its. Mundane natural state, which is not mon, you know, it's mundane in that it's everywhere, you know, it's just normal.

35:30 But, but it's not anymore in our, in our age. And, but, and when it is brought back to the state, it does amazing things. We're just, we don't realize what we've lost. It's interesting to put then perspective because in the perspective that we're coming from in the state that we're used to seeing it, seeing it in it's everything is. Destroyed. Everything is out of order. Everything is falling apart. And um, a sunny day after a week of rain is a fantastic day, but that's a normal day for some people. So it's interesting how you, how you put it in that perspective, which is pretty cool. I was actually one last question. What are your thoughts on drinking distilled water to avoid parasites?

36:16 And do you think I know people that drink distilled water, they do it to avoid parasites and then they supplement the minerals because you lose all that when you distill. But what are your thoughts on needing to do that to avoid parasites? Yeah. Well, I, I would, you know, versus structuring? Yeah. I mean, I would, I would speculate, theorize just from my own experiences determine that parasites a result of being, of being in a low energy environment. You know, they thrive in a low energy environment. And if. If you create a high energy environment, it will work. It will create an environment in which those can be expelled by the body, I believe. Mm-hmm.

36:56 But I believe also that there's certain that there are remedies out there, you know, that will help expel them. But I would say when water is in a distilled state, it's more reflective of, of rainwater. Which is what rainwater is. It's distilled water. Mm. Uh, you know, maybe not so much today with everything that's in the sky. Right. But that's the natural thing. And so it is a hungry water and it will, and it is corrosive. So, but if you, if you're adding minerals to it by, you know, taking a supplement of minerals and you really. Why, why did you distill it in the first place? You know, you just took all those minerals out, now you're putting'em back in, right? It's not, you know, water carries bacteria or I would call it microbes.

37:39 Cuz microbes covers more of a broad spectrum of, of, of life, you know, of tiny life, tiny creatures, which I believe all microbes. This is another, you know, another depot, which we won't get into, I'll just cover it real quick, is that, you know, microbes are, microbes are God's little servants. They're little servants. They just do what they gotta do, which is either they break down waste or they build up life. They either break down life because it's dying, or they build up life because it's living. If the environment is a low energy environment and things are dying, then we, then they're, they're eating up the waste. But vi, you know, the field of virology, which is completely a pseudoscience. Will Identif, will, will bla or just the allopathic field in general.

38:24 Modern science in general, will, will look at you know, a burning building and say those firefighters are the arsonist, they're building, they're burning. Look at them everywhere you go. When, wherever there's a fire, you see these guys running around and they're the ones that really cause the fire, cuz they don't understand, you know, and that's what's happening. So we look at all these environments within, you know, the bio. You know, in within the biological terrain, and, and we blame, we identify microbes as evil or bad or pathogenic. It has nothing to do with anything. It's not, we're blaming them for us, what we did wrong. Mm-hmm. What did we do wrong? We ate wrong. We thought we created an environment that was toxic for whatever reason, naively or intently, whatever.

39:07 And, and we're blaming the microbes instead of taking responsibility ourselves. Yeah. Yeah. I think you, you just covered the surface of terrain theory versus germ theory. Right. So that was pretty cool. I love that. I love that conversation. And yeah, and you're right, that is another that's another conversation that gets deep because it's one of many things that, um, that you know, there is to learn which is interesting. Thank you for clarifying that. For anybody that's new to that now, they're interested. Is peaked. Yeah. And I also thought it was really cool with the farming aspect of it because now more people are interested in growing their own gardens and Yes. And watering it. You're changing the whole environment and if you understand terrain theory, you're gonna even appreciate it even more, which is totally, totally un, totally believable for me and you.

39:58 And unbelievable for those who have not heard of it at all, this is pretty cool. I think we've covered a lot today. I think we've covered a good amount. Is there anything that you feel, as we were talking that um, we should have covered around what you know best, which is structured water and that, that science, anything you would like to add? maybe one thing You know, it has to do with the, what we've mentioned earlier about water benefiting us physically. And, and the only thought that comes to mind is that there is a way that it benefits us spiritually. And that is, uh, when, when it's, when we're immersed in it. And at the, with the act of baptism that was established by actually was established by John the Baptist.

40:43 You know, as a predecessor to preparing the way for the savior of the world, for the Messiah, and, and to, and, but yet John the Baptist, when he baptized it was a physical baptism, but when, when we were baptized after Christ came it, a spiritual baptism and it literally does have a spirit, it literally does cleanse us spiritually, which is a whole that's, and again, I'm just. That's a, just a drop in the bucket. Just, just a thought that, that there is a way to be cleansed spiritually, but it's, it's not, you know, it's, it's, you can't isolate it though, and say if it's black and white, you know, that's part of the, part of the process. Mm-hmm. So water has a, water has a part in every aspect of our physical, mental, emotional, and spiritual life.

41:28 There's a place that plays it's, it's the most wonderful without, I mean, and I would say one more thing, water is everything. It literally is in that hydrogen. The hydrogen atom. It means it literally means water in the beginning, hydro water, genesis in the beginning, water was in the beginning, and water from the water came all live. And so all the elements of the puric table are constructive of hydrogen atoms in various forms and configurations that, uh, that create the attribute, that create the physicality. And, and so water is everything and, and it can manifest itself in. And it, man, and it does manifest itself in all of creation, everything around us.

42:08 It's just, it is just in different forms. Wow. Thank you for bringing that up because that is a awesome topic to close on, which is that it's part of everything, right? Absolutely. Um, is in, in closing. Um, I know that you have, I like, I like. The product line that you have. And I like the fact that you have a nice range of things, and it's focused on getting as close to nature as possible, which I'm a huge advocate for. So as we close, is there anything that you're working on, um, whether it be a book, I'm just, I'm just throwing it out there, whether it be a book, whether it be a project that you're thinking of doing feel free, free to share if anybody wants to connect with you or is just curious.

42:51 Yeah, yeah. Well, you know, the. We've got two divisions in the company. One is residential and one is ag, and my goal is to get the. Residential side going so that I don't need to be present anymore so that I can give my time, full-time to the, to the ag side. Agriculture. Agriculture, yes. Yeah. So, so that's my big project is I really, I wanna get out there and, and start spreading the word about talking about structured water and its benefits for agricul, you know, for, for farmland because we can just, we can make such an impact and help so many farmers. Prosper. You know, I call it the world's most profitable farm implement. Mm-hmm. Uh, the structured water implement.

43:33 But, but it's very, it is like Victor, you know, Victor Shaw, the amazing qualities and attributes of water, and he was one, you know, he was very much alone in understanding that. And when he, he spoke at a science symposium in London in the, in the early 19 hundreds. And when he was done afterwards, And many came up to him and said, you know, if we were, if we were to accept what you're saying to us, we would have to change all the science. We would have to change the content of all the science books. And they understood that, you know, this is a, everything's off wacky. And so in the same way, I would love to just go to the agriculture communities, you know, around the world. And that's my goal. I. To, to promote these concepts because they can help us in when a time they, when there's so much pollution, so much going against us with the chemical industries, you know, taking over farming and we, we can reverse that, you know, and I don't believe I'm gonna re, you know, I believe I just want to help those farmers that want to reverse it mm-hmm.

44:29 That want to do well and don't have the capacity or the knowledge to know how to do it. Or they may have some of the tools, but they don't have the most important tool. And that's what I see with regenerative agriculture. They've really, you know, got it together in so many ways, but water is still neglected, basically. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I'm excited to learn more about that. Um, especially, uh, maybe we could do a different call around just the ag part and how structured water could help with the environment that's being, Demolished with all these chemicals and I'm pretty sure it has a big part of. A big role to play in that. But thank you so much though. We went through a lot of really cool stuff.

45:10 I felt I learned a lot. You listening, you watching, I hope you learned a lot. And feel free to share with a friend if you, if you have a, an aspiring farmer out there. They're gonna love hearing about this and put possibly another, uh, in, in depth conversation. But, um, thank you so much. Gary for coming on today. I really appreciate you and, and your knowledge. Well, thank you so much, John,