Dogs Beyond the Lab

Dogs Beyond the Lab

Dogs Beyond the Lab is a deeply human podcast about rescue, rehabilitation, trust, and the life-changing bond between people and dogs. While the series begins with former research dogs — many of them beagles who spent their early lives inside laboratory facilities — the heart of the show reaches far...

Cherisse & Odie: Through PTSD and Panic Attacks
Dogs Beyond the Lab
Cherisse & Odie: Through PTSD and Panic Attacks

Recent Episodes

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Oct. 12, 2026

Cherisse & Odie: Through PTSD and Panic Attacks

Cherisse Friesen Epp recounts how a planned short-term foster named Odie became a beloved member of her family. Odie arrived in Manitoba in September 2023 profoundly fearful, avoiding people and struggling to settle. Cherisse describes his early challenges, including serious conflicts with resident dog Daisy, and the added strain of supporting her partner, James, as he navigated PTSD after a traumatic vehicle accident. With patience, professional guidance, and veterinary support, Odie gradually
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Sept. 28, 2026

In the Lion’s Den: Brandon Wilder on the Ethics of Animal Research

John, Lori and Chelsey are joined by Brandon Wilder, to discuss animal research and the lives of the animals involved.
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Sept. 15, 2026

Joe Bailey's Lessons from Presley

Joe Bailey didn't plan on becoming an advocate for former research dogs — he just wanted a beagle. On this episode of Dogs Beyond The Lab, hosts Chelsey Marino (Keeper and Kin), Lori Cohen (The Beagle Alliance), and John Ramer (Kindness Ranch Animal Sanctuary) hear how a two-week notice from the Beagle Freedom Project brought Presley, a six-and-a-half-year-old beagle straight off an Oklahoma breeding farm, into Joe's Los Angeles home. Joe taught him stairs, leashes and how to eat slowly, and lea
10
Aug. 31, 2026

Raising Kane: the Anxiety the Milestones, and the Love…

John Ramer, Chelsey Marino, and Lori Cohen talk with Alice and Dima about Kane, a senior lemon beagle rescued from Kindness Ranch Animal Sanctuary. Alice grew up with beagles and had always wanted to adopt a former research dog, while Dima had never lived with a pet before Kane came along. After meeting through a senior adoption promotion, Kane joined their family — and quickly made it clear that he had a lot to learn. From peeing on the desk during his adoption meeting to experiencing the wo
9
Aug. 17, 2026

Badger, Gabe, and Kai: How Three Beagles Rewrote One Family’s Life

Rob Wadd joins Dogs Beyond the Lab to share the profound journey of Gabe, a former research beagle whose life was transformed by love, patience, and community. Rob recounts how he and his wife Sharon moved from life with Badger—their confident, well-adjusted beagle—to adopting Gabe, a deeply traumatized ex-lab dog terrified of ordinary things like doorways, wind, darkness, and TV. With Badger as a mentor and Sharon as his anchor, Gabe slowly learned safety, routine, and trust, from four-hour bac
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Aug. 3, 2026

Melanie Kaplan: Lab Beagles, Legislation, and Love

Melanie shares what she uncovered about industrial-scale facilities, the gaps in animal-welfare enforcement, and the promise—and slow adoption—of non-animal research methods. It’s an honest conversation about grief, investigative journalism, advocacy, and why Hammy’s story still matters.

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