Jan. 9, 2024

Life Lessons from Zonie Girl: How to Stay Sunny, Grounded and Resilient | RR240

Life Lessons from Zonie Girl: How to Stay Sunny, Grounded and Resilient | RR240
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Season 1

My guest this week, Bonnie Stevens, is a multifaceted individual whose diverse career has left an indelible mark on the worlds of journalism, documentary production, and entrepreneurship. She shares insights from her captivating career, touching on the intersections of nature, science, and business, and offers valuable lessons from her journey through life. Bonnie is a natural storyteller and shows us how to blend that wonderful art into speaking engagements, interviews, and public appearances. Listen in and uncover the unique experiences, stories, and wisdom Bonnie brings to the podcast.

She was a delight to interview.

You can reach Bonnie Stevens at: bonniestevensarizona.com

For info about the upcoming SHINE! Workshop in Sedona (Feb. 6th – 10th 2024)

www.storysoulstyle.com

A little about me: 

I began my career as a teacher, was a corporate trainer for many years, and then found my niche training & supporting business owners, entrepreneurs & sales professionals to network at a world-class level. My passion is working with motivated people, who are coachable and who want to build their businesses through relationship marketing and networking (online & offline). I help my clients create retention strategies, grow through referrals, and create loyal customers by staying connected. 


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Transcript
Janice Porter:

Hello everyone and welcome to relationships

Janice Porter:

rule. I am most excited this week about my guest, Bonnie

Janice Porter:

Stevens, who comes to us from Arizona. We call her the zoning

Janice Porter:

girl she calls herself the zoning girl. So it took me a

Janice Porter:

minute, Bonnie to figure that one out because Arizona is not

Janice Porter:

my home space, but I finally got it. And now of course, it's

Janice Porter:

completely. So welcome to the show.

Bonnie Stevens:

Oh, thank you so much. You know, Genesis is such

Bonnie Stevens:

an honor to be here. And I love the name of your podcast,

Bonnie Stevens:

relationship relationships rule, I just love that I promote that

Bonnie Stevens:

so strongly throughout my my business and for years. And

Bonnie Stevens:

really, it's all about relationships.

Janice Porter:

It is and thank you, thank you for that. So just

Janice Porter:

a little snippet about Bonnie, because there's way more to tell

Janice Porter:

you that she is an Emmy award winning documentary producer,

Janice Porter:

and international speaker, international best selling

Janice Porter:

author, career journalist, editor of to business journals,

Janice Porter:

public relations consultant, entrepreneur, and former

Janice Porter:

television news anchor. And there is way more that we will

Janice Porter:

weave in as we go because I was fortunate enough to meet Bonnie

Janice Porter:

on a retreat in Arizona actually, not long ago. And she

Janice Porter:

is a pro extraordinaire, and I loved her from the minute I met

Janice Porter:

her. So I'm so glad that you were able to come on the show.

Janice Porter:

And I'm going to start actually by taking you back because I'm

Janice Porter:

curious as you know, I'm curious about the the chapter that you

Janice Porter:

wrote in this book, the impact of one voice and you tell your

Janice Porter:

story of of kind of being in a in a bad place. Looking for some

Janice Porter:

solution to how you were feeling in the depths at the time. Now.

Janice Porter:

I'm guessing this was 1520 years ago. 10.

Bonnie Stevens:

Not not just a little over 10 years ago, and

Bonnie Stevens:

Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah, maybe about 12? About 12 years ago. Okay, so

Janice Porter:

you went through? Well, then it may not I thought

Janice Porter:

it was a bit longer. But this I'll ask the question anyway.

Janice Porter:

So, um, if you want to give us a synopsis of what happened and

Janice Porter:

what, what came out of it, I'll just tell you that my question

Janice Porter:

that I was thinking, when I, when I was reading this is, how

Janice Porter:

do you know that movie sliding doors?

Bonnie Stevens:

I've heard of it. I don't altro and

Janice Porter:

if you see her at the beginning of the movie, it's

Janice Porter:

an old movie, but she gets on a train. And if she left, this is

Janice Porter:

how her life would be. Oh, right. This is how her life

Janice Porter:

would be. And so you see both parts of the of the story. And I

Janice Porter:

just wonder if that affected your path. Career wise, when you

Janice Porter:

had this, this experience in Hawaii?

Bonnie Stevens:

Yeah. Great question. You know, Janice, I,

Bonnie Stevens:

when I was having this time, and it was a dark time, and just

Bonnie Stevens:

briefly, the three people that I was closest to the people who I

Bonnie Stevens:

believe loved me more than anybody else on the planet, and

Bonnie Stevens:

we're always rooting me on. And when I did something, they

Bonnie Stevens:

would, they would see it as three times as big as anybody

Bonnie Stevens:

else, you know, and they just, were always my cheering section.

Bonnie Stevens:

They were all dying of a disease, all three of them. It

Bonnie Stevens:

wasn't like an accident that was handling the ball. It wasn't the

Bonnie Stevens:

same disease that they contracted from each other. It

Bonnie Stevens:

was just this really dark time. And it was my mom, my oldest

Bonnie Stevens:

sister and my oldest brother. And it was really difficult. And

Bonnie Stevens:

it was a difficult time for me in other personal ways as well.

Bonnie Stevens:

But this this really got to my core to the fact that there was

Bonnie Stevens:

nothing in my life that I recognized as my life anymore.

Bonnie Stevens:

My husband and I had had 100 miles of distance between us, my

Bonnie Stevens:

oldest son had moved away to find work in another state after

Bonnie Stevens:

graduating college. And and so I wasn't living in my same

Bonnie Stevens:

beautiful mountain home. And then there's all this tragedy

Bonnie Stevens:

everywhere. And what's interesting is that during this

Bonnie Stevens:

time, you know, I believe that the universe has a way of

Bonnie Stevens:

mirroring back to us what we're going through or helping to see

Bonnie Stevens:

and understand what we're going through. And I'm sitting there

Bonnie Stevens:

on my deck one day trying to process what all is happening

Bonnie Stevens:

and where how I'm going to help everybody it all you know all

Bonnie Stevens:

the people that in my life and a fire a forest fire started just

Bonnie Stevens:

to the north of May right before my eyes lit just a few miles

Bonnie Stevens:

north and it turned out to be a huge devastating fire was called

Bonnie Stevens:

the Schultz fire and I was watching the plume build up my

Bonnie Stevens:

background I'm I had spent time in the Forest Service and had

Bonnie Stevens:

been on fire lines. And I understand, you know, when a

Bonnie Stevens:

forest fire plume gets to a certain point in the atmosphere,

Bonnie Stevens:

it can collapse on itself. And when it does that, it just

Bonnie Stevens:

washes out flames, it can be deadly dangerous. And I was

Bonnie Stevens:

watching this thing built and getting heavier and heavier, and

Bonnie Stevens:

it was really kind of freaking me out. And it wasn't far from

Bonnie Stevens:

town. And then as I turned around, there was another fire

Bonnie Stevens:

starting to the south of me. And it just felt like my whole world

Bonnie Stevens:

was this hazy, covered in this hazy smoke that I didn't

Bonnie Stevens:

recognize anything. And I was just like, sort of grabbing on

Bonnie Stevens:

to things sort of stabilizing myself, like what is happening.

Bonnie Stevens:

And I feel like the universe does that. And and if we're not

Bonnie Stevens:

paying attention, we get it, you know, hit 10 times harder than

Bonnie Stevens:

we should have caught it the first time. And so in this time,

Bonnie Stevens:

you know, I've been a journalist for, you know, decades already.

Bonnie Stevens:

I had told stories all my life, and been in front of the cameras

Bonnie Stevens:

and almost felt very confident and sort of in charge and

Bonnie Stevens:

balanced. And, you know, I did all the things that you're

Bonnie Stevens:

supposed to do. I tried to eat right, I tried to exercise all

Bonnie Stevens:

the time. And I felt like I was doing everything I can to be,

Bonnie Stevens:

you know, healthy and strong. And yet, I was sitting there

Bonnie Stevens:

going, how can my world have gone so wrong? When I felt like

Bonnie Stevens:

I really tried to follow the, you know, the straight and

Bonnie Stevens:

narrow and make it all seem right and good. And, and that's

Bonnie Stevens:

when it hit me that I really needed to hear other voices

Bonnie Stevens:

besides the fear that was inside of me. And so that turned me on

Bonnie Stevens:

to listening to audiobooks, just obsessively anything that was

Bonnie Stevens:

good and positive and, and motivating and inspirational. I

Bonnie Stevens:

was just playing in my head, I'd go to sleep with it going on.

Bonnie Stevens:

And then, you know, I was really tuned into my intuition at the

Bonnie Stevens:

time, too. And trying to ask for, you know, how do I get

Bonnie Stevens:

through all of this, and I heard my higher voice. And it's funny,

Bonnie Stevens:

Janice, because my Christians, my Christian friends will tell

Bonnie Stevens:

you I misheard the message that it was really go surf. Yes, I

Bonnie Stevens:

heard go surf. Yeah. And so I thought, Well, okay, so I

Bonnie Stevens:

started looking up surf camps, and I was thinking, Oh, my gosh,

Bonnie Stevens:

you know, it cost me a lot of money I'd I have, it's totally

Bonnie Stevens:

irresponsible for me to check out on my life, to go, you know,

Bonnie Stevens:

away for five, six days, spend the money, like $1,500 on

Bonnie Stevens:

airline tickets, that camp itself was another 35. So you're

Bonnie Stevens:

starting to add this up, that's $5,000. And then my mother, who

Bonnie Stevens:

was going through dementia and getting worse, you know, as that

Bonnie Stevens:

disease progresses, one day, she tells my sister that she wanted

Bonnie Stevens:

to give a my sister that was my other sister, that that she

Bonnie Stevens:

wanted to give all her children $5,000 Now my mother never gave

Bonnie Stevens:

us money like that. And when I got this gift, I thought, Okay,

Bonnie Stevens:

that sounds like divine intervention, you know, my

Bonnie Stevens:

mother pushed this out through the fog of dementia. And she had

Bonnie Stevens:

these, this $5,000. And that's exactly what I had, in my mind,

Bonnie Stevens:

I'm going a must be assigned. So to everybody else, that will be

Bonnie Stevens:

completely absurd. But I went ahead signed up for surf camp.

Bonnie Stevens:

And I tell you, you know, it's in my book, which is coming out

Bonnie Stevens:

in January. It's called life lessons from a zonie girl how to

Bonnie Stevens:

stay Sunny, grounded and resilient. And I talk about that

Bonnie Stevens:

as the lead in. And then I talk about so many inspirational

Bonnie Stevens:

stories, people I've interviewed and covered through my life as a

Bonnie Stevens:

journalist. How and I and I relate it to things that happen

Bonnie Stevens:

in Arizona. So if you're in a gravelly pit of indecision,

Bonnie Stevens:

which, you know, is, is such a visual, if you've ever been

Bonnie Stevens:

hiking in Arizona, or mountain biking in Arizona, and it just

Bonnie Stevens:

kind of talks you through, you know, what your choices are, and

Bonnie Stevens:

what what successful people have said, I pull in their quotes,

Bonnie Stevens:

and, you know, they all say make a decision, you know, don't

Bonnie Stevens:

don't be in indecision, make a decision. And if you if it's

Bonnie Stevens:

defined out, it's the wrong decision. Make another decision.

Bonnie Stevens:

And I'm going simple enough, you know, don't just stay in this,

Bonnie Stevens:

this confusing mixture of I don't know which way to turn. So

Bonnie Stevens:

I mean, it's things like that, that really helped me that I

Bonnie Stevens:

wish if I wrote that book, read that book. 2030 years ago, I

Bonnie Stevens:

would have been able to jump across maybe two decades of

Bonnie Stevens:

lessons learned, right? So I appreciate that you read the

Bonnie Stevens:

chapter and I do tell that story also in the impact of one voice

Bonnie Stevens:

inspirational stories of passion, purpose and

Bonnie Stevens:

perseverance, which I'm thrilled to say is an international Your

Bonnie Stevens:

best seller. So exciting stuff, really fun and interesting and

Bonnie Stevens:

fresh stories that you've never heard before. And that's, that's

Bonnie Stevens:

the turning points that we talked about this tourney time

Bonnie Stevens:

in my life. So I really felt like, Okay, now that I have all

Bonnie Stevens:

this wisdom, and I've gone through the, you know, yeah, I

Bonnie Stevens:

write and come out the other end, I realized that, you know,

Bonnie Stevens:

what that was doing to me was it kept me quiet, it kept me small,

Bonnie Stevens:

it kept me from not sharing my gifts, it kept me feeling like,

Bonnie Stevens:

I didn't have anything to give, and I certainly didn't have

Bonnie Stevens:

anything to share, and who cares anyway, and that is the wrong

Bonnie Stevens:

message. Because, you know, women especially need to hear

Bonnie Stevens:

that message that we have gifts, and we need to share them. It

Bonnie Stevens:

you know, if you think of it more as as a responsibility, it

Bonnie Stevens:

takes your ego out of it, you have something that somebody

Bonnie Stevens:

needs to hear. And that's why today I illuminate women, women

Bonnie Stevens:

in business, so that they can learn how to be camera ready as

Bonnie Stevens:

how I call it in, in story and soul and style. And through

Bonnie Stevens:

this, they can step into the spotlight be more visible,

Bonnie Stevens:

impact, their their value, increase their their impact,

Bonnie Stevens:

and, and inspire others to do the same. And that's really how

Bonnie Stevens:

my mission changed from telling other people's stories to

Bonnie Stevens:

encouraging people to tell their stories.

Janice Porter:

Got it? Because I know that you know, certainly

Janice Porter:

having been in the in the spotlight and on air for all

Janice Porter:

those years and so on. You know, you were it was a job. And you

Janice Porter:

were you were doing investigative journalism as

Janice Porter:

well. I know that you're really um, I had forgotten that you're

Janice Porter:

a science geek actually like, right? I

Bonnie Stevens:

am. Yeah, like, thank you. I am a science in a

Bonnie Stevens:

positive way. Don't

Janice Porter:

get me wrong, but I own that. But sure, one thing

Janice Porter:

the most. I think the thing that stuck with me the most when I

Janice Porter:

met you. And I just set the scene a little bit that you

Janice Porter:

actually gave a little bit of a presentation or workshop for the

Janice Porter:

group of us that were at this retreat in Arizona. And the

Janice Porter:

thing that I think it's because I don't I feel I don't do this

Janice Porter:

very well. And I was in awe of what you were doing is, and this

Janice Porter:

is this is leading to your workshop that I know your your

Janice Porter:

retreat that you're doing in February, and February, right,

Janice Porter:

yes. But I want to just mention that. And we'll get into that.

Janice Porter:

Because what what I was in awe of was how well you tell a

Janice Porter:

story, you tell a story so well. And the other thing about that

Janice Porter:

is having those stories to tell like on like on it, thinking of

Janice Porter:

them on a dime. Because I can't do that. I just feel like

Janice Porter:

there's got to be a story that I can elaborate on about this. And

Janice Porter:

it doesn't come to me. And you know, if I've got the story,

Janice Porter:

like one of the things I love to do as a teacher back in the day,

Janice Porter:

was read out loud read to my class read to wonderful kids

Janice Porter:

love to read stories to kids. But thinking those experienced

Janice Porter:

stories that will illustrate the point. That's where the art is.

Janice Porter:

And that's what I saw you do so well.

Bonnie Stevens:

So oh my gosh, well, that is such a compliment.

Bonnie Stevens:

And Janice coming from you, I especially hold that so dear in

Bonnie Stevens:

my heart, I will hang on to that. Thank you so much. That's

Bonnie Stevens:

always the current skill, or Yeah, it is it is practiced. You

Bonnie Stevens:

know, I've I've been telling stories in print and on camera

Bonnie Stevens:

for a long time. But the the skill that I've had to learn is

Bonnie Stevens:

how to deliver them without a teleprompter and connecting with

Bonnie Stevens:

the audience and, and feeling the feedback about how it

Bonnie Stevens:

resonates. You know, what, what the captures them what they're

Bonnie Stevens:

interested in and how the points are made. And so, you know,

Bonnie Stevens:

every audience, it's, it's different. And which is really

Bonnie Stevens:

fun. Right? Read the audience is yes. And I've had to really

Bonnie Stevens:

learn that because I used to think when I was up in front of

Bonnie Stevens:

people that I was telling them so one way communication, right?

Bonnie Stevens:

They weren't there to learn and this is what they're gonna get.

Bonnie Stevens:

And I was, you know, really adamant about giving them the

Bonnie Stevens:

information, right, but I wasn't a news reporter in you. Yes. But

Bonnie Stevens:

I wasn't having the interactive experience, which is really the

Bonnie Stevens:

whole enjoyable part of speaking to a group of people. It's

Bonnie Stevens:

feeling the energy and feeling the feedback and you know,

Bonnie Stevens:

really feeling the love and when you say something that is that

Bonnie Stevens:

tugs at your heart. And somebody hears that for the first time,

Bonnie Stevens:

you've forgotten what an impact that is. And you can see it in

Bonnie Stevens:

their eyes. I mean, I've had roomfuls of people, you know,

Bonnie Stevens:

like, like wiping tears, as I'm telling them a story about about

Bonnie Stevens:

somebody and how that changed their life and what they went

Bonnie Stevens:

through. And to a writer, you know, I mean, the whole point

Bonnie Stevens:

is, to get people to feel to open up to be vulnerable, to

Bonnie Stevens:

look at something differently, to have a different perspective,

Bonnie Stevens:

perhaps, but but all of us, you know, when I, when I talk about

Bonnie Stevens:

and you know, this, you've heard me say this before, story, we

Bonnie Stevens:

all have a story. And the story is how we connect with each

Bonnie Stevens:

other. So that is so powerful. And, you know, not everybody

Bonnie Stevens:

recognizes that we learn through stories, and we have through

Bonnie Stevens:

through history, we tell, you know, around campfires, before

Bonnie Stevens:

we had written word, we would talk, we would share stories

Bonnie Stevens:

that were passed down through generations. So the story is

Bonnie Stevens:

such a powerful tool. And that is one of the things that I help

Bonnie Stevens:

people develop in this workshop is for women, and it's

Bonnie Stevens:

immersive. It's February 6, through 10th. It's called shine,

Bonnie Stevens:

and it and just to remind people how to find it, you can go

Bonnie Stevens:

story, soul style.com. And so story is how I mentioned how we

Bonnie Stevens:

connect with people, and I help people craft their story. And

Bonnie Stevens:

really hit the points most people don't dissect their own

Bonnie Stevens:

story, right? story has a beginning, a middle and end,

Bonnie Stevens:

there's adversity in it, there's champions in it, you know,

Bonnie Stevens:

there's the heroine in it. And there's, you know, in a story,

Bonnie Stevens:

there's a positive ending, there's something that came out

Bonnie Stevens:

of it, there's a lesson learned or a new direction, or whatever

Bonnie Stevens:

that is, and most of us don't look inwardly at our own story

Bonnie Stevens:

and just determine, you know, what were the factors that

Bonnie Stevens:

shifted our beliefs or shifted our motivation, or gave us more

Bonnie Stevens:

determination, whatever that was, and then your soul is

Bonnie Stevens:

really how we trust you, you know, you we do things for a

Bonnie Stevens:

reason, we're passionate about what we do, for some reason. And

Bonnie Stevens:

when we hear that, then then it's transfers into style. And

Bonnie Stevens:

that's really how we recognize each other, you know, our style,

Bonnie Stevens:

and all of that should flow together. And we should be able

Bonnie Stevens:

to, you know, recognize when I see Janice, I see, you know,

Bonnie Stevens:

somebody who values, relationships and helps other

Bonnie Stevens:

people maintain that connection, and really say what's in their

Bonnie Stevens:

hearts and not just let it be a fleeting moment, like, oh, yeah,

Bonnie Stevens:

I should really think that person, and then never do it,

Bonnie Stevens:

you know, and you have taught me that I can do that quickly,

Bonnie Stevens:

easily, effectively, efficiently, and cost

Bonnie Stevens:

effectively, which is really incredible. And I have, I have

Bonnie Stevens:

really become the spokesperson for you. And you're just in the

Bonnie Stevens:

past two weeks, I've seen so many people during the holidays,

Bonnie Stevens:

and I'm out there taking pictures. And for your send out

Bonnie Stevens:

card thing. People are so ecstatic when they get this this

Bonnie Stevens:

candid picture of them having a blast in and it takes you right

Bonnie Stevens:

back to that moment. And they open the cards and they text me

Bonnie Stevens:

immediately. And they're laughing. And they're they're

Bonnie Stevens:

saying, you know, this, this was really thoughtful and

Bonnie Stevens:

meaningful. And it's

Janice Porter:

actually because you're specific and unique for

Janice Porter:

them. You were just thinking

Bonnie Stevens:

about them. Exactly.

Janice Porter:

Yeah, it's beautiful. People are touched

Bonnie Stevens:

by that. Yeah,

Janice Porter:

thank you. It's true. And they're in this world

Janice Porter:

today. We need more of that.

Bonnie Stevens:

We tell them like, gosh, well kind of cuts

Bonnie Stevens:

through, it stops you in your tracks when you're doing your

Bonnie Stevens:

things are going through your mail quickly. Oh, that's a nice

Bonnie Stevens:

Christmas card from somebody you know, and then you open that up

Bonnie Stevens:

and you're going, Whoa, that is really thoughtful. That is super

Bonnie Stevens:

fun. And I've never seen this picture I'd totally forgotten

Bonnie Stevens:

about what we were doing in November, you know, so yeah, it

Bonnie Stevens:

does. It just brings people to life. It's beautiful.

Janice Porter:

Thank you. I'm so glad that you get it because the

Janice Porter:

more people that get it are able to spread that kindness and joy.

Janice Porter:

You know, the more the world will be a better place

Bonnie Stevens:

made it Yes.

Janice Porter:

So I watched you I listened to a couple of

Janice Porter:

interviews that you did and one that I watched because it was

Janice Porter:

video that I was actually I really really enjoyed it but I

Janice Porter:

thought it was interesting was it was one that you did earlier.

Janice Porter:

This year with Joanne McCall calling, yes, gain visibility.

Janice Porter:

And her book was media savvy or something like that. She's

Janice Porter:

Darlene. Yeah, darling. I wrote that we down. That's right,

Janice Porter:

Darlene. She's a publicist, and she's in the world that you have

Janice Porter:

been in write for four years. And I, I really thought it was

Janice Porter:

interesting. Couple of things came from you. I watched it,

Janice Porter:

because I wanted to see you how you do interviews in on your

Janice Porter:

podcast? And also because I noticed, okay, it was on video,

Janice Porter:

it wasn't your news broadcast. You weren't a an anchor in this

Janice Porter:

situation. But I have to ask, did you have prompts on the

Janice Porter:

screen?

Bonnie Stevens:

Oh, you know, well, I always write notes

Bonnie Stevens:

myself,

Janice Porter:

you had notes down on your table, but you

Janice Porter:

never looked at them? Maybe once? And so see, now I'm into,

Janice Porter:

like, how to do a podcast? How do you do? But did you have us

Bonnie Stevens:

yet? Well, I do you know, I keep my notes on a

Bonnie Stevens:

an iPad, and I'm able to see that iPad. And you'll notice,

Bonnie Stevens:

you know, one of the tricks I do and I talked to the people I

Bonnie Stevens:

interview ahead of time, is if I break eye contact with you, it's

Bonnie Stevens:

because I'm looking down at my notes, I'm still listening, I

Bonnie Stevens:

want to make sure that I get to the points that we Yes, want to

Bonnie Stevens:

get out. And so you know, it's it's kind of a fine dance of

Bonnie Stevens:

being engaged, you know, unlocked with eye contact and

Bonnie Stevens:

bringing out that person to, you're also the producer, you

Bonnie Stevens:

know, in a normal TV setting, you'd have an something in your

Bonnie Stevens:

ear, and a producer would be talking to you. And they'd be

Bonnie Stevens:

saying, don't forget to ask him about, you know, or I've never

Bonnie Stevens:

had that. So, yeah, so you have lots, you have a big team on a

Bonnie Stevens:

TV set that's helping you and remind you of things, and you

Bonnie Stevens:

have a great teleprompter, and you've got a teleprompter

Bonnie Stevens:

operator and all that. But when you're doing a podcast, and

Bonnie Stevens:

you're doing the video as well, you know, it's a little tricky,

Bonnie Stevens:

because you don't want to look like you're disengaged, right,

Bonnie Stevens:

so, so I try to make sure that when she's on camera, the whole

Bonnie Stevens:

in filling the screen, and I'm not on camera, I'll try to look

Bonnie Stevens:

down just to see, and I'll have big circles on my script, like

Bonnie Stevens:

you know where to go to next. So I'll have sometimes I'll have

Bonnie Stevens:

arrows, you know, or I'll, I'll say, quote, page 63. And I want

Bonnie Stevens:

to grab their book, you know, and open it up and read

Bonnie Stevens:

something that they wrote that I thought was really impactful. So

Bonnie Stevens:

yeah, I'll do a lot of cues. And I tell you what, you know, I

Bonnie Stevens:

took a speed speak, a public speaking coach, I took some

Bonnie Stevens:

sessions with a woman who's amazing, she's masterful. Her

Bonnie Stevens:

name's RV Robinson, you I'm sure you've heard of her. And I

Bonnie Stevens:

learned so much from her about public speaking, and how to kill

Bonnie Stevens:

yourself and how to do things smoothly. And so I have been

Bonnie Stevens:

practicing that, and my vodcasts my video podcast, helps me do

Bonnie Stevens:

that, and helps me try to be smooth. And then when, when

Bonnie Stevens:

everything goes wrong, you know, that's, that's the, that's the

Bonnie Stevens:

mark of a real pro, when they can just keep the conversation

Bonnie Stevens:

going. And like you, Janice, you've done your homework. So

Bonnie Stevens:

you have lots of questions already floating around. And

Bonnie Stevens:

there's, it's easy to pull things out. But you have to just

Bonnie Stevens:

stay your concentration this day with your concentration. And an

Bonnie Stevens:

RV says, you know, if you're doing one hour of public

Bonnie Stevens:

speaking, it's like an eight hour day, it and and I get that

Bonnie Stevens:

and I don't know if you feel like this, but after all do a

Bonnie Stevens:

vodcast and I'm in charge of producing it all and make sure

Bonnie Stevens:

it all comes together. I'm starving. I was thinking, you

Bonnie Stevens:

know, it feels like I just ran a marathon and I really need a

Bonnie Stevens:

hamburger. So that's so you do put out a lot of energy. And and

Bonnie Stevens:

a good interviewer is somebody who does their research, and

Bonnie Stevens:

doesn't just show up and fire questions at somebody and call

Bonnie Stevens:

it good. You know, you're not really having a conversation

Bonnie Stevens:

you're just being fired at. So people recognize the difference.

Bonnie Stevens:

And they're very appreciative. You know, authors, I don't know

Bonnie Stevens:

how many times I've heard, Wow, you really read the book. Right?

Bonnie Stevens:

And you're thinking, shouldn't anybody who interviews you read

Bonnie Stevens:

your book? And the answer is no, you know, they might look at the

Bonnie Stevens:

table of contents or read the news release. But they won't

Bonnie Stevens:

really delve into it they won't absorb it and they won't

Bonnie Stevens:

highlight something that really spoke to them or is relevant for

Bonnie Stevens:

the moment you know, I'll because

Janice Porter:

because we take on too much. And there's there's

Janice Porter:

so much out there and we don't have time. So then why did we do

Janice Porter:

it? You know, like, I get it. And I understand that and I

Janice Porter:

actually have had people say that to me too. Although I I'm

Janice Porter:

learning that, you know, if I don't want to read that book,

Janice Porter:

then maybe I shouldn't have that person on my podcast. Right?

Janice Porter:

Well,

Bonnie Stevens:

yes, I have run into that too. And sometimes I

Bonnie Stevens:

have to force myself through a couple of chapters to like, and

Bonnie Stevens:

just really kind of get into it. But yeah, I know what you mean.

Bonnie Stevens:

And I'll put that off. And then it'll be like, nagging at you,

Bonnie Stevens:

you know, off in the corner office going? Remember? You're

Bonnie Stevens:

gonna read? Interesting.

Janice Porter:

So which part of what? So right now your focus?

Janice Porter:

Is it? What do you have different things going on? So

Janice Porter:

how many things do you have going on? Now? Like you do your

Janice Porter:

vodcast? You? Do you do private training for people? And yes,

Janice Porter:

okay. Go ahead.

Bonnie Stevens:

Yeah, absolutely. You know, I do I do

Bonnie Stevens:

many workshops in an afternoon. I do them with as I do them one

Bonnie Stevens:

on one, I do them in groups of three or 10. You know, after you

Bonnie Stevens:

get to about 18, it's kind of tough. But I'll and sometimes

Bonnie Stevens:

I'll bring in people that are broadcasters that I'm good

Bonnie Stevens:

friends with, and they'll help me you know, do interviews with

Bonnie Stevens:

people and help them get feedback and keep trying and

Bonnie Stevens:

practicing until they feel more confident, more comfortable and

Bonnie Stevens:

kind of get where everything is, you know, when when you're being

Bonnie Stevens:

interviewed on camera, there's so many questions just down to

Bonnie Stevens:

the basics of where am I supposed to look? And that's a

Bonnie Stevens:

really important question. Because if you're, depending on

Bonnie Stevens:

what kind of format it is, you can look really shifty, if your

Bonnie Stevens:

eyes are going all over looking for where they need to land. And

Bonnie Stevens:

what I always tell people is you just focus on the person talking

Bonnie Stevens:

to you just like you would, it's, that's normal. And really,

Bonnie Stevens:

we're just eavesdropping, like the camera, you know, we're just

Bonnie Stevens:

kind of hearing and listening and finding you very

Bonnie Stevens:

interesting, you know, it's like being in a crowded party, and

Bonnie Stevens:

somebody's holding court somewhere and they're animated

Bonnie Stevens:

and people keep are being drawn in to them. It's kind of the

Bonnie Stevens:

same feeling where you're just engaged, and you're so involved

Bonnie Stevens:

in this conversation, that it's charismatic, you know, it's

Bonnie Stevens:

magnetic, people want to come and find out well, what all of

Bonnie Stevens:

this is going on, and who is this person. And that's Janice,

Bonnie Stevens:

that's really how I operate. When I'm in a room, I'm always

Bonnie Stevens:

looking for that next best story. It's just what I do, I

Bonnie Stevens:

love to tell great stories. And so I'm always kind of filtering

Bonnie Stevens:

through rooms and looking for somebody that has this glow

Bonnie Stevens:

about them, or this drive, or this passion, you can tell in

Bonnie Stevens:

the way that they walk in the way that they move. Or they're

Bonnie Stevens:

gregarious, or whatever it is. And sometimes it's not even the

Bonnie Stevens:

main speaker, or the person that, you know, we're all there

Bonnie Stevens:

to see sometimes. And sometimes there's a lot of side stories,

Bonnie Stevens:

you know, it's like a bonus for me, I get to go to one event,

Bonnie Stevens:

and then pick up five different stories and five different

Bonnie Stevens:

sources.

Janice Porter:

Well, I think part of that is because you are

Janice Porter:

such a relationship person, yourself, like you love people.

Janice Porter:

And it's very obvious. And I saw it in that when we first met,

Janice Porter:

and you had each of us come up to be interviewed by you so that

Janice Porter:

we could go through and see how we were and what to say and

Janice Porter:

whatever. And you were so beautiful with everybody and

Janice Porter:

everybody was in a different place. Some people were more

Janice Porter:

natural and comfortable speaking to the you know, on camera and

Janice Porter:

others were not, and you made everybody feel comfortable and

Janice Porter:

try to move them ahead. And, and it is an art, there's no

Janice Porter:

question if you're not used to it, it's,

Bonnie Stevens:

it takes practice it. It

Janice Porter:

really does, I'm struggling still with this

Janice Porter:

green.on my, on my computer, versus looking at you on the

Janice Porter:

screen. And I've been dealing with that all day and more with

Janice Porter:

you than anybody else. I'm admitting it because I know that

Janice Porter:

I want to look at you. But if I look up here, I think I'm

Janice Porter:

looking at you, right? I don't know, it is,

Bonnie Stevens:

you know, with every different format, there's

Bonnie Stevens:

just something to learn about it. And, you know, you talk

Bonnie Stevens:

about somebody being a natural, they're a natural this their

Bonnie Stevens:

natural that well, you know, I submit that there's very few

Bonnie Stevens:

naturals in the world at just, you know, being really good at

Bonnie Stevens:

speaking or being really good on a certain format. It really

Bonnie Stevens:

comes down to practice and, and practice. So you know, I think

Bonnie Stevens:

back to playing the piano when I was seven years old, when I

Bonnie Stevens:

would rather have been climbing a tree, you know, I mean,

Bonnie Stevens:

practice takes discipline. And it's, it can be painful, because

Bonnie Stevens:

you've got to play it back and watch yourself and get

Bonnie Stevens:

comfortable with your voice and your mannerisms. And, you know,

Bonnie Stevens:

try different things and see if you animate it if you use your

Bonnie Stevens:

hands does that help you communicate a point is Is it

Bonnie Stevens:

more interesting to watch you? Or is it too much and you're

Bonnie Stevens:

bumping into things, you might have to rein it in a little bit,

Bonnie Stevens:

but knowing yourself, most of us don't even realize things that

Bonnie Stevens:

we wouldn't want to be doing on camera, but we do it because

Bonnie Stevens:

we're not aware of it. Right. So that practice makes us makes us

Bonnie Stevens:

focus in on that and pay attention. And then ask for

Bonnie Stevens:

feedback, which is also makes you very vulnerable. You know,

Bonnie Stevens:

if people might say, something that's, that hurts you or is

Bonnie Stevens:

offensive, but I take it all with a grain of salt. You know,

Bonnie Stevens:

we're, we're all individuals. And we're all anybody. You know,

Bonnie Stevens:

I applaud everyone who puts themselves out there because it

Bonnie Stevens:

is scary. And you can't control it. I think that's part of the

Bonnie Stevens:

fear is, you know, once it's out there, or two, it belongs to

Bonnie Stevens:

them, and then you can't control it. And that's very

Bonnie Stevens:

uncomfortable for most of us.

Janice Porter:

You know, I learned something a long time

Janice Porter:

ago, when I was doing some I was doing a television show for a

Janice Porter:

friend of mine. This is something I've thought about for

Janice Porter:

a long time he produced this show in in LA it was a it was

Janice Porter:

like a forerunner to Dancing with the Stars. It was called

Janice Porter:

Dance Fever. It was many, many years ago. And he had auditions

Janice Porter:

for that show, wherever to find dancers right to come on the

Janice Porter:

show here. It sounds familiar. Okay. Yeah, the premise of the

Janice Porter:

show is they get these amateurs on there, and they'd have a

Janice Porter:

three celebrity judges. And then they had a couple of dancers,

Janice Porter:

professional dancers on there as well, just to make it

Janice Porter:

interesting. And, and then anyway, so he said, Why don't

Janice Porter:

you do some auditions for me in Vancouver? And I said, Oh, yeah,

Janice Porter:

that would be fun, because I love doing events and things,

Janice Porter:

right. So I did it long story short, and I had to find a

Janice Porter:

nightclub to do them. And I had to find different kinds of

Janice Porter:

dancers and whatever. And I found celebrity special judges

Janice Porter:

to do that, you know, it was the same premise as the show, but it

Janice Porter:

was auditions. And from that, he would look at the tape, and they

Janice Porter:

would bring people down there to be on the actual show. Well, one

Janice Porter:

of the judges I got was a dance critic from the newspaper, and

Janice Porter:

the local newspaper, which was fine. Well, I did two shows this

Janice Porter:

first show this person came the second show, she couldn't come.

Janice Porter:

And she sent one of her colleagues, who was another

Janice Porter:

reporter from the local paper. And I won't get into the

Janice Porter:

details, but later, he basically wrote an article the next day

Janice Porter:

about how I handle things. And he didn't like what the way the

Janice Porter:

results had gone. Oh, no, kind of slammed me because it wasn't

Janice Porter:

like a contest. It was basically a TV show. And we had to pick

Janice Porter:

the dancers that we needed for the show as opposed to

Bonnie Stevens:

entertaining. Yeah. So he

Janice Porter:

slammed me in this article. Well, I was

Janice Porter:

devastated. And horse devastated. But I also realized

Janice Porter:

after that, that any press is good press. And it's gone in a

Janice Porter:

flash, because nobody really, you know, it's not that

Janice Porter:

important in the big scheme of things. But oh, my goodness, it

Janice Porter:

was hard on me at first.

Bonnie Stevens:

Oh, my gosh, yes. Well, you know, that

Bonnie Stevens:

happens. It does happen as you get good press. Right, whatever.

Bonnie Stevens:

And I have to say that I do. I do agree that publicity is

Bonnie Stevens:

usually good, even when it doesn't seem to be favorable.

Bonnie Stevens:

Yes, exactly. It puts you it makes people curious about you.

Bonnie Stevens:

Yeah. Which makes them want to find out more. And, you know,

Bonnie Stevens:

so. So even, I've done a lot of crisis management in my public

Bonnie Stevens:

relations consulting firm. And, you know, I try to calm people

Bonnie Stevens:

down, because, like, you're absolutely right, you're the

Bonnie Stevens:

only one that is feeling the heavy hit. And, and it goes away

Bonnie Stevens:

everything, especially these days is so fleeting, oh, yeah,

Bonnie Stevens:

you know, used to worry about the shelf life of something. And

Bonnie Stevens:

if it's gonna sit there and just, you know, ruin your life,

Bonnie Stevens:

because it's there on the table. But it's, it's so not true. And

Bonnie Stevens:

the best way to move on from something like that is, is to,

Bonnie Stevens:

is to succeed. You know what I mean? So to so to flood the

Bonnie Stevens:

media world, with all the successes, not necessarily that

Bonnie Stevens:

you did, but that you're introducing that you're bringing

Bonnie Stevens:

along from this program, you know, and, and just bury it just

Bonnie Stevens:

flooded with kindness and goodness and success, and joy

Bonnie Stevens:

and relationships, and then people will not it'll just be

Bonnie Stevens:

buried and it'll go away. Whatever it is. I mean, there's

Bonnie Stevens:

a lot of unfairness out there, but mostly, it's good. I like to

Bonnie Stevens:

think that mostly, the experiences are good. Exactly.

Janice Porter:

So as we were wrap up because I realized I've

Janice Porter:

gone over and that's okay. We have so much fun talking. Now, I

Janice Porter:

want to ask you a couple of quick hits. So favorite quote,

Janice Porter:

what's your favorite quote?

Bonnie Stevens:

Oh, favorite quote? Well, as you know, I've,

Bonnie Stevens:

I've had the great honor and opportunity to interview so many

Bonnie Stevens:

amazing people, people who have done, you know, something that

Bonnie Stevens:

no one else has done. And I have interviewed for men who, out of

Bonnie Stevens:

the 12 that have walked on the moon and not just interviewed

Bonnie Stevens:

them, but spent time with them, you know, like, spend an

Bonnie Stevens:

afternoon with them working with them as a keynote speaker and

Bonnie Stevens:

driving them around and having conversations. And my favorite,

Bonnie Stevens:

I shouldn't say this, but my favorite was Alan Bean. And he

Bonnie Stevens:

was on Apollo 12. Now, I always felt sorry for Apollo 12.

Bonnie Stevens:

Because Apollo 11. And as you remember, it was Neil Armstrong

Bonnie Stevens:

and Buzz Aldrin, and, you know, they got, they got all the

Bonnie Stevens:

glory, no, Apollo 12 was like, you know, been there, done that.

Bonnie Stevens:

And yet, Alan Bean was one of those astronauts that walked on

Bonnie Stevens:

the moon with a very, like, the third person, I think, walked on

Bonnie Stevens:

the moon. And so as I'm talking to him, just casually, you know,

Bonnie Stevens:

not even in with my notepad. I said, So what's it like to step

Bonnie Stevens:

out onto the moon, and everything's Gray, and

Bonnie Stevens:

everything's still and everything's quiet, except

Bonnie Stevens:

whatever's going on inside your helmet, you know that your

Bonnie Stevens:

respirators and whatever else is going making noise. And, you

Bonnie Stevens:

know, nothing moves, there's no wind, right? And, and he goes,

Bonnie Stevens:

and then you look back at Earth, and you can see the Blue Magic

Bonnie Stevens:

bubble back there, and the marble with the clouds and the

Bonnie Stevens:

oceans and, and he says, that's when I realized we live in the

Bonnie Stevens:

Garden of Eden. And that quote, has stuck with me ever since.

Bonnie Stevens:

Because whenever you're feeling down, whenever you're feeling

Bonnie Stevens:

like, life is not being fair to you. I think of that quote,

Bonnie Stevens:

because all you have to do is for me, get into nature. And

Bonnie Stevens:

realize, remember, if you think about that, we live in the

Bonnie Stevens:

Garden of Eden. And if you really dissect that, what does

Bonnie Stevens:

that mean? I think of abundance. You know, everything we need

Bonnie Stevens:

oxygen, water, food, people, animals, you know, everything we

Bonnie Stevens:

need is right here. And if you can take yourself as you lift

Bonnie Stevens:

yourself out of the doldrums, wherever you are, and pull

Bonnie Stevens:

yourself up to that place where you can really appreciate the

Bonnie Stevens:

beauty and the wonder, and the opportunity that we all have.

Bonnie Stevens:

You know it it really works for me. And I think that's so

Bonnie Stevens:

beautiful. So that is my favorite quote, in the Garden of

Bonnie Stevens:

Eden. Yeah,

Janice Porter:

that's amazing. Okay, last question. What would

Janice Porter:

you say? Is the best piece of advice that you've ever

Janice Porter:

received?

Bonnie Stevens:

Oh, boy, you know, I've received a lot of

Bonnie Stevens:

advice. Well, one that sticks with me is Kevin Harrington. You

Bonnie Stevens:

may you know, early shark tank fans might remember him from

Bonnie Stevens:

that program. He was one of the first sharks. And he is an Uber

Bonnie Stevens:

entrepreneur, his story is, I love his story. Because if you

Bonnie Stevens:

remember the days of television, where everything went fuzzy, at

Bonnie Stevens:

the end of the day, you know, static, and there was there was

Bonnie Stevens:

just like, no program, or programming or really bad

Bonnie Stevens:

programming in the middle of the night. So Kevin was the guy who

Bonnie Stevens:

thought, well, I'll buy that airtime. Yeah. Right. It was an

Bonnie Stevens:

infomercial. And he would put actual inventors of, you know,

Bonnie Stevens:

wondrous vacuum cleaners or, you know, juice makers or whatever.

Bonnie Stevens:

And he'd have the inventors out there, you know, demonstrating

Bonnie Stevens:

their product for half an hour. And like through it, they'd say,

Bonnie Stevens:

if you want to buy this vacu wonder whatever they would call

Bonnie Stevens:

it, you know, call this number right now. And so he invested in

Bonnie Stevens:

all these inventors and got him on airtime. And his his advice.

Bonnie Stevens:

He says, you know, people don't succeed because they're afraid

Bonnie Stevens:

in a lot of cases. But his quote was, you know what, we're all

Bonnie Stevens:

afraid of failure. And he says, So you tried, you failed, you

Bonnie Stevens:

learned? And I'm like, well, that's, you know, you can kind

Bonnie Stevens:

of just dust your hands off and say, Okay, put it beside you.

Bonnie Stevens:

And his message was really about maximizing your, your chances of

Bonnie Stevens:

winning. And so he would say there'd be times when I tried 10

Bonnie Stevens:

different products, I would invest in 10 different products

Bonnie Stevens:

and three of them would be successes. Now if you look at it

Bonnie Stevens:

depends how you look at it, get three successes, that you got

Bonnie Stevens:

70% failure, and he said then I would match summarise it. So I

Bonnie Stevens:

would invest in 50 products, and then you know, you would

Bonnie Stevens:

multiply your successes. So I really love his attitude about

Bonnie Stevens:

failure is like, you fail, you learned. And I'm like, if we can

Bonnie Stevens:

all just look at it that simply that it's just part of, of life.

Bonnie Stevens:

It takes, it takes some of the fear out of out of trying things

Bonnie Stevens:

that are scary. And, you know, I'm a big believer in, in

Bonnie Stevens:

pushing ourselves, it gets our heart racing and makes us feel

Bonnie Stevens:

alive. And and that's, that's really healthy.

Janice Porter:

That's good. That's really good. I forgot

Janice Porter:

that he was the infomercial guy too. And I know that he has, and

Janice Porter:

he's all over the internet now. I mean, still, and you know,

Janice Porter:

yeah.

Bonnie Stevens:

He never stops. No, he's so high energy. Yes.

Janice Porter:

Well, this has been delightful. And I know that

Janice Porter:

I'm, I'm looking forward to hearing about I wish I could

Janice Porter:

come but I can't, to your wonderful event in Arizona in

Janice Porter:

February. Tell my audience one last time about it. And we'll

Janice Porter:

make sure that the show notes show how they can find you and

Janice Porter:

find it. Okay,

Bonnie Stevens:

absolutely. Yes, I'm thank you so much. I'm super

Bonnie Stevens:

excited about this. This is the workshop that I would have

Bonnie Stevens:

wanted. For myself. And I've integrated it's called shine.

Bonnie Stevens:

And it's February 6 through 10th. It's in the red rocks of

Bonnie Stevens:

Sedona inspirational in and of itself. It's immersive. So we're

Bonnie Stevens:

in this beautiful luxury accommodations built into, you

Bonnie Stevens:

know, surrounded by the red rocks. And we'll be practicing

Bonnie Stevens:

on camera, crafting your story, practicing telling your story,

Bonnie Stevens:

practicing all different formats, you know, how you

Bonnie Stevens:

appear on Zoom, as well as on camera on set on stage, getting

Bonnie Stevens:

your key messages together, and sharing those in a compelling

Bonnie Stevens:

way. And what really makes this workshop sensational is that

Bonnie Stevens:

I've got such a team of experts. I mean, these are award winning

Bonnie Stevens:

legendary broadcasters, pumping speakers past is called coaches.

Bonnie Stevens:

This this one woman that I've gotten to know who is an

Bonnie Stevens:

expression expert, she dresses people for TEDx talks, by

Bonnie Stevens:

getting to know their topic and their brand, so they look like

Bonnie Stevens:

their message. And this will be so fabulous for every part of

Bonnie Stevens:

your life. It's for women. And we'll also be mixing in some of

Bonnie Stevens:

the magic of Sedona like stargazing under these beautiful

Bonnie Stevens:

dark, brilliant stars, dark skies, and we'll be doing some

Bonnie Stevens:

yoga and, and sound bathing and which is you know, with bowls

Bonnie Stevens:

and gongs and, and things so very Sedona esque and that will

Bonnie Stevens:

be dining in a friend of mine who's an entrepreneur in Sedona,

Bonnie Stevens:

she has six award winning restaurants in Sedona that are

Bonnie Stevens:

absolutely all of them, also very different, and all

Bonnie Stevens:

incredibly good. So that's our celebration, we'll be doing that

Bonnie Stevens:

and then we'll also be on my vodcasts. So we'll be on, we'll

Bonnie Stevens:

be putting on a program that people can use for their

Bonnie Stevens:

websites. We'll also I'll also be writing stories about them

Bonnie Stevens:

that will be published. And they can use that so they'll walk

Bonnie Stevens:

away with materials, I'll have videographers, their

Bonnie Stevens:

photographers there, and, and that just the fellowship of

Bonnie Stevens:

being together with like minded women. It's going to be

Bonnie Stevens:

fantastic. I'm, I'm super excited for it, people can find

Bonnie Stevens:

it at story, soul style.com Or look for me at Bonnie Stephens.

Bonnie Stevens:

arizona.com. And you can if you want to chat with me to decide

Bonnie Stevens:

if it's for you. It's bonnie.stephens@gmail.com and

Bonnie Stevens:

just right shine in the subject line and I'll know what your

Bonnie Stevens:

what your what you want to know about. So it'll be fantastic.

Bonnie Stevens:

Thank you, Janice. This has been an amazing opportunity. All was

Bonnie Stevens:

so much fun to talk with you. I love what you do. And I so

Bonnie Stevens:

appreciate the opportunity to talk about how relationships

Bonnie Stevens:

matter so much in all of our businesses. While you've

Janice Porter:

been a delight. Thank you. It's been my pleasure

Janice Porter:

and my privilege to talk to you so I so appreciate it and I know

Janice Porter:

your event will be amazing. I I do will spread the word about

Janice Porter:

this. When this comes out mid January. Okay,

Bonnie Stevens:

fantastic. Thank you so much. And, you know, I'm

Bonnie Stevens:

feeling the urge to send you a thank you card. I

Janice Porter:

love it. I'll accept it anytime. Absolutely.

Janice Porter:

There's so much and remember to my audience. If you like what

Janice Porter:

you heard, please go seek out Bonnie's event and the work that

Janice Porter:

she does, and remember to stay connected and be remembered

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