Sept. 11, 2025

Crime Wire Weekly 9/12/25 | Charlie Kirk Assassinated, North Carolina Train Killing of Ukrainian Woman (Preview)

Crime Wire Weekly 9/12/25 | Charlie Kirk Assassinated, North Carolina Train Killing of Ukrainian Woman (Preview)
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Season 1

In this episode of Crime Wire Weekly, hosts Jim Chapman and Kelly Jennings discuss a series of trending crime stories, including the horrific shooting at a Utah College that claimed the life of Charlie Kirk, the killing of a woman riding a train in North Carolina and much more!
*This is a preview, links to listen to the full podcast by following "Crime Wire Weekly" are below.
 
Timestamps
03:00 Charlie Kirk Assassinated in Utah
42:40 Hippo Overturns Boat Leading to Eleven People Missing
53:20 D1 Football Player Caught Stealing 240K Rolex Watch
01:00:20 Louisiana Man Caught Wacking Off Outside of Local Gym
01:06:20 Philly’s Karen Goes Viral 01:10:00 Man Jumps From Cruise Ship to Avoid 16k Debt
01:12:19 LSU Urinator Goes Viral on Tik-Tok
01:15:00 Ukrainian Woman Stabbed to Death on NC Train
01:20:01 Update on the Mushroom Killer 

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Hey, folks.

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Before we get into the topics for today, kJ and

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I are recording Crime Wire Weekly on this Thursday, September eleventh.

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Our thoughts and prayers are always with the victims of

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nine to eleven, nearly three thousand victims, and we dedicate

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this episode to their memory.

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Thank you.

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Welcome back, folks. We got a jammed packed show for

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you today. We're going to go through the topics quickly.

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In Utah, the founder of Turning Point USA and ultra

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popular conservative media personality Charlie Kirk is assassinated while speaking

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on a college campus. In North Carolina, a Ukrainian woman

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is stabbed to death in an unprovoked attack while riding

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a train. In North Dakota, a Division one football player

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is kicked off the team after stealing nearly four thousand

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dollars in valuables off of boat. In Pennsylvania, the search

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is on going to discover the identity of the Phillies Karen.

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In Louisiana, a serial urinator has become a viral sensation

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on TikTok.

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We're going to talk about that.

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In Alabama, a retired college professor is killed while walking

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her dog in a park, and a hungry hippo is

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causing havoc overseas as eleven people are missing. A man

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jumps off a Royal Caribbean cruise line. And notice I

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said Caribbean and not Caribbean to avoid paying a sixteen

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thousand dollars gambling debt to a ship. We got all this,

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plus a bunch more today on Crime Wire Weekly. I'm

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Jim Chapman.

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And I'm Kelly Jennings.

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Kelly Jennings, where are we going tonight?

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We are going to a Laney Wilson concert.

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Jim the Lane Wilson, the entertainer of the year, Lanie Wilson.

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You surprise me with if people would like to know.

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He surprised me with some tickets. And so Jim and

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his lovely wife Wendy, and me and my stud muffin

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of a husband, Blake Jay, are going country.

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We're going country. If we were country and country wasn't cool,

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that's right.

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I do believe.

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But yes, we're gonna go see Lady Wilson live and

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in person. And who knows, maybe well we'll get her

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to listen to some podcasts there.

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You never, Hey, I went backstage with bart groups, is

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what I almost justs.

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He's the cousin of Garth Brooks.

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You may have heard of you may have heard.

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No, really, I went backstage Garth Brooks. I raised my

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hand at a concert. He brought me backstage.

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I remember that. I remember that.

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Yeah, and you made fun of me because I cried.

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Maybe we should post if I could find that clip.

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It's great. I'm gonna find it. Everybody.

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Garth bird'schare with miss Jennings and I'm here to say

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good luck on your nine one one certifications.

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Guess what nine one one? What's the address in or emergency?

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This is Garth Brooks and I'm calling that unrum, all right,

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So we're gonna get on sadly to some sad, serious

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stuff that is, of course breaking news that's just occurred yesterday.

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And I don't have any script for this one, really

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just facts. So conservative debater, founder of media giant Turning

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Point USA and author Charlie Kirk, who was thirty one,

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was savagely assassinated at twelve twenty pm while speaking and

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doing what he does, inviting people who oppose his views

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to have dialogue in debate with them. This was on

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the campus of Utah Valley University. This is in aorum, Utah,

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and Kirk was about twenty minutes into his speech when

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a single shot rang out. All though reports initially stated

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there was no word on his condition, then it came

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out and it's said he was in critical condition.

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I think anyone who saw that video.

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And particularly the horrific angle that some people saw, it

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was pretty clear to me that Kirk.

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Died almost instantly.

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And for those that do not know yet, Kirk's wife

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and two children were in attendance at this event and

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they witnessed the entire thing, which is just horrific to

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even think about now. Initially, a suspect almost immediately was handcuffed.

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This was an elderly man. He was putting handcuffs on

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the scene, but after reviewing security footage, he was released.

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First off, the shooter had on all black this guy

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did not, and they knew that from the roof footage. Second,

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they arrested this guy in the same area as Kirk

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was speaking, essentially, and when this shooter they got a

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visual from cameras that were around the university. When they

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saw where he was perched, if you will, they realized

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that this shot was taken from a rooftop two hundred

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yards away. Not a tough shot with a rifle necessarily,

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but you have to consider this. The shooter was elevated,

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Charlie was positioned kind of in a bowl around three

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thousand people, mind you, and he was also under a tent.

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One shot placed perfectly for that kill shot. Just a

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few hours later, FBI director Cash Bettel comes out with

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a statement. Now this was after the first guy was released.

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In Cash proclaims and I quote the subject whose shot,

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Charlie Kirk is in custody. Well, guess what, they question

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that guy and he gets released. And I have a

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problem with that that we'll get into in a minute.

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Police do mention they have the video of the shooter,

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but it was grainy and they said, you know how

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these videos can be, etc. Well, eight hours later, when

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I was writing this story for today to go over

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with you, there was no suspect. Still no suspect in

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custody the next day, and even worse, no description from police,

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no video release. Was this guy white or black? Was

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he short or tall? Was it a guy or a girl?

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We have no information yet this guy is still on

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the lease. That infuriates me. There's conflicting statements from the

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FBI and police. You have the FBI saying we have

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a guy in custody, then you have the police saying, no,

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we don't.

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So that's where we're at now.

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Before I unleash kJ, I want to read everyone something

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that is from a state rep for the state of Virginia.

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His name is Nick Freetas, and he wrote this on Facebook.

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I am told that as a state representative, this is

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the moment where I'm supposed to express my heartfelt condolences

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and then stand in solidarity with those who are on

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the other side of the aisle as we condemn political

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violence and stay unified as one people. But we aren't

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one people, are we. The truth is we haven't been

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for some time now, and there's really no point in

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pretending anymore if there ever was. We are two very

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different peoples. We may occupy the same piece of geography,

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but that is where the simularities seem to abruptly end.

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I convinced myself for a long time whenever the left

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called me a racist, a bigot, a sexist, a fascist,

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a threat to democracy for even the most innocent of disagreements,

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that it was simply hyperbolic rhetoric. Dune for effect, and

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now the effect is a widow and two orphan children

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because the Left couldn't or the thought of a peaceful

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man debating them in winning. I don't think they realize

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it yet, but murdering Charlie is going to be remembered

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as the day where we finally woke up to what

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the fight really is. It's not a civil dispute among

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fellow countrymen. It's a war between diametrically opposed worldviews which

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cannot peacefully coexist with one another. One side will win

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and one side will lose. Charlie tried to win the

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fight through argumentation, through discussion, through peaceful resolution of differences,

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and the other side murdered him. Not because he was

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extreme or inciting violence or any other hyperbolic slur they

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hurled at him. They murdered him because he was effective,

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because he was unafraid, because he inspired others and made

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them feel like they had a voice, that they.

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Were not alone.

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And he did it at the very institutions which have

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foremented so much hatred toward conservatives. I don't want to

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stand in solidarity with the other side.

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Of the isle. I want to defeat you.

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I want to defeat the godless ideology to kill babies

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in the wound, sterilize confused children, turn our cities into

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cesspoles of lawlessness, and the people that murdered Charlie Kirk.

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Social media is a flame right now with the leftist

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celebration of Charlie's death. I wonder if any among them

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understand what has just happened. They all have done. All

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they have done is awoken a sleeping giant.

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I doubt it.

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I think they give up such introspection and self awareness

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long ago. I don't exactly know what will happen next.

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I just know it won't be the same thing that

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has happened in the past. There will be thoughts and prayers.

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Charlie would have wanted prayers not for himself, but for

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those left behind and for the country he loved. But

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there will be a reckoning. My Christian faith requires me

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to love my enemies and pray for those who curse me.

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It does not require me to stand idly by in

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the midst of savagery in barbarianism.

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Quite the opposite.

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So every time I feel tired, every time I feel

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discouraged or overwhelmed, I'm gonna watch the video of good

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Man being murdered in Utah. I will force myself to

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watch it, and then I will return to work of

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destroying evil ideology responsible for that and so much more.

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Rest with God, Charlie, your fight is over, ours is

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just beginning. And that was from Nick free Tes of

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the State of Virginia. He's a state rep. So, Kelly Jennings,

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you've been sitting here quietly taking all this in, and

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I guess the first question here is why did this happen?

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Well, it happened because.

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It's the age old thing of becoming what I would

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say is an atavist.

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And add this to.

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Someone who when they can't win the intellectual fight, they

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turn into a savage. It's the reason why husbands that

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our bad husbands beat their wives. It's the reason that

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drug dealers shoot people over turf. It's the same reason

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that a shooter walked into a church and shot children.

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It's because you cannot fight fanaticism with intellect. They only

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know violence, They only know I don't know if this

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is coming across the way, I mean it too. But

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people who turn to this level of action because they

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think that's the only way to be heard. All they've

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done is deafen everyone else's ears to what I guess

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point they're trying.

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To make.

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Debate is the most gentlemen, gentlemanly thing I can think

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that we have in this world, to sit down, to

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have a discussion, to disagree, and then to agree to disagree.

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It's it's it's the way of the world.

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It's the reason that.

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You know.

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It's it. It's everything that a human should be.

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It's it's humanity where you can sit down and you

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can hash it out, and where you we have to

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come to some We all have something about us that

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can be.

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Looked at as good.

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And when we when we lose sight of that, when

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we put somebody in a box and we decide that

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this facet of their life, this aspect of their life,

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and what I mean right now is just politics. When

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your politics inspire I don't even if that's the word,

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but push someone or make someone feel like you need

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to die. We have lost sight of everything that this

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world is about.

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We've we've lost it.

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We've and and I don't even know if I could

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if I should say we, because I haven't lost it.

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I don't. I don't.

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I have some of the most wonderful, creative, uh peaceful

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people I know are the most liberal, wild you know,

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wildflower type people that just I love them for who

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they are.

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That we're different. We're so freaking different, you know.

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And I have friends that have been in prison and

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they're released now, and we disagree on a lot, but

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I tell you what they need me, I'm there because

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it's it. It's their heart. You know, you love someone's heart.

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And I'm I'm not an emotional person. I don't get

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overly emotional. But when I was sitting down to my

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husband and I were talking last night, I'm gonna tell

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you this that my husband got emotional. And a lot

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of men, you know, a lot of men that I

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look up to and I respect, and I think a

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lot of I watched them openly weep on TV yesterday

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and on TikTok, and that that alone brought the gravity

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of what this is to the forefront of my mind.

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And and there's nothing I can say that hasn't been said.

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But there's people that live into this that couldn't stand him. Okay,

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what I'm saying, they couldn't stand him. However, if you

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wanted that man to die, if you wanted to celebrate

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his death. You are you are wrong, You are dead wrong,

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and I cannot align with you in anyway.

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Yeah, I couldn't agree for more than with what you

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just said. Look, I didn't agree with every single thing

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Charlie Kirk said. I mean, it's something that sticks out

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He you know, old Charlie was as anti college.

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I mean, he frigging hated college, you know, unless you

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were going to be a heart surgeon or something like that.

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He saw no purpose for it. I didn't agree with that.

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I feel like there are a lot of problems with colleges,

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but I feel like education is always a good thing,

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and if you can swing it, I feel like you

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should should do that. There's some people, of course, not

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made for college, and that doesn't mean there's going to

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be a failure. And that was kind of his message,

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and I agree with that part. But he was almost

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you know, any college. But I you know, hey, that

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was his opinion. And I think the problem with this

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entire situation is we live in America, and to me,

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when I think of America, the first thing I think of,

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even before the Second Amendment, is the First Amendment and

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the right to free speech and everybody has the right

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to say their opinion right, wrong or otherwise. I don't

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have to agree with everything you say to like you. Hell,

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I know some Democrats that I like.

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I like it.

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They're fun to hang out with, and we will have

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our little debates and we'll both laugh about it. And

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that you know you're wrong and I'm right is our

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attitude towards each other. But we never come to blows,

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or nor will we think to come to blows. When

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you hate someone's so much, your heart is so dark

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that you will kill them because you just don't agree

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with what they got to say.

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The problem is with you.

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It's a heart problem. Listen.

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being a your young kid right when you start out

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of college. I was seventeen my freshman year of college,

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and I walked through free speech Alley, which is.

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What they called it.

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They probably still do, but anyway, and I remember being harassed,

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flat out harassed by people yelling with big signs and

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big you know, big to dos and loud speakers and screaming.

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a loud person. I know that I take up a

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lot of space. And I don't necessarily mean to, but

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it's just a personality thing. But I never want to

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impose on somebody to the point that I make them

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uncomfortable walking around a college campus. That was something that

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I appreciated about Charlie's approach was that he just sat

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didn't put you know.

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I'm forty. How old am I forty forty one? Forty

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forty forty? I'm forty. I remember these people U super

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religious sect of some type. But anyway, I remember walking

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out of the student union and they had these huge

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signs with pictures of aborted babies on it, and they

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were screaming that we were all going to hell and this,

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that and the other. And I remember thinking, what did

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I do to you other than just walk out of

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this building? You know, why do you think that you need.

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To yell at me? And I wanted to have a

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conversation almost of like.

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the signs and I walked up to the children and

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I was one of the kids and I knelt down.

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I said, hey, buddy, what you got on your sign?

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And he was like a picture, you know?

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And he was like, you know, bad uh Sin, You're

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going to hell? And I said wow. I said can

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you tell me more about it? And he just kind

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of looked at me and I said that's all you know.

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I said, are you repeating? And he's like, yep, we

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got it. We have to we're repeating it, you know whatever.

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And I said okay, and I said, well, I tell

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you what. I'm not gonna yell at you. I'm going

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to tell you that you're loved. And he just looked

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at me and I said, so you have a great day.

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you don't have to I wanted. I felt so like

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that kid was just getting it so wrong because he

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didn't know any better because his parents were telling you

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have to go yell and holler at people to get

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your point across, and you absolutely don't have to yell

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and scream and and so when you climb a ladder

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and you lay down prone on the top of a building,

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and you've done reconnaissance, and you've gone with the mission

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of ending the life of someone that you disagree with,

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Let's strip all of the politics away. Seriously, I want

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to strip it down to just the man, flesh and bone.

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You ended someone's.

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Life who had two babies at home, who has a

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wife that was knew she was so cherished by this man.

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And no one will love her ever the way he

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loved her.

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And no one will ever swoop those babies up and

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love them the way their daddy loved them. And when

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my husband got emotional, like I mentioned a minute ago yesterday,

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his emotions were because his father died when he was little.

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is dead. My husband's whole family is dead. They died

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all tragically, actually, And he said in tears rolled out

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of his eyes, and he said, you know, you don't

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get it.

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He said, you just don't get it. And I said

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I know, and he said, no, don't say I know.

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He said, those children have just lost their leader of

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their household. They don't have someone to teach to be

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the daddy to tell.

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Him how a man treats a woman. They were stripping.

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I'm sorry, but they were apologize, they were robbed, they

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were robbed and his people and I apologize, but as

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a people, you know, honor thy mother and thy father.

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maybe that's not what I agree to, but that's their.

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Family and you can't just love them that way.

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Yeah, I don't want to be here in a world

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where that's how we're how we're treating one another.

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Yeah, and they wun'tessed it. They saw it, you know

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how horrific. I can't imagine. I can't imagine seeing that anybody.

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I love.

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It's visceral if you watch it, and I'm glad I

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watched it because it's the reality of what just happened.

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It's so animal, it's so horrific. I mean, he just

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his arms atrophy. They pull up and he's over and

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like his blood is just spilled. It's unlike anything that

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we should see other than on a on a war

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on a war site or something. It's it's not anything

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anyone should ever see.

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It's it's simply awful. And you know, obviously our our

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hearts and prayers go out to everybody who knew and

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loved Charlie, and.

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And speaking of that, and you got emotional.

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And look there Meghan Kelly last night, Uh, she went live,

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you know, breaking news on.

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Her show, and she was very close to Charlie Kark.

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speaking engagements, uh set up for the next couple of weeks.

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This news of the shooting, she did nobody knew if

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he was dead or not yet. Although we knew, we

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didn't know right there was no confirmation of that. And

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so that came through as she's recording, as she's live

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on YouTube. Megan Kelly is one tough lady and Meghan

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Allie burke completely down. So before we go any further,

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I want y'all to hear what I just mentioned with

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Meggan Kelly. So I'm gonna play the clip for you

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of her the second she found out her friend Charlie Kirk.

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Had been assassinated. Here's that clip.

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Charlie's been shot. He's been shot. It appeared in the neck.

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There is video of the event of the shooting that

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took place from far away. We're gonna show you that

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Utah Valley University. This is graphic. It's not as graphic

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as some of the films that is being represented as

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out there right now and having been taken more close up.

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So we're gonna look at just this one, which is

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from a distance. I've texted Charlie myself. I don't know

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how he is. I don't know if he's okay. I

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don't know what the state of his injuries are. But

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he has been shot, as confirmed by the President of

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the United States, the FBI also confirming, and as we

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await further updates on his condition, all we can do

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is pray. We can pray, pray, pray God that he

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survived this, Pray for his family, Pray for his children's

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two young children, and ask ourselves what our country is

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coming to.

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How does this happen?

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How does somebody who's only job is to comment on

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political matters wind up a target for an assassin. This

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is the United States of America. We have commentators, we

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have provocative commentators. This is what we've been doing since

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the dawn of time. There are news outlets reporting the

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worst right now, Glenn, I don't know what I'm waiting

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for Before I report it, you know, I trust just

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the news. I trust dest it. What are we waiting for,

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like the AP to say it. We don't trust that

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more than we trust these they're reporting that Charlie has died,

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that he's dead at the age of thirty one.

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Which she would have to be if that video was real.

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There's no way he survived that. Only what it is,

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it had to have happened quickly, right right.

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If you see the video, you do not see any suffering. No,

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he appears her be spared the horrific moments after that.

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The girl on the Charlotte train wasn't when she knew

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she was dying, or she knew something terrible had happened.

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As clear Charlie went down. He went down quickly. Oh

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good god. Yeah, he's dead.

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It's official.

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It's from the COO of Turning Point who just tweeted out,

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Dear Turning Point USA family, it's with a heavy heart

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that we the Turning Point USA leadership team write to

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notify you that. Earlier this afternoon, Charlie went to his

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ejournal reward with Jesus Christ in Heaven. We're still gathering

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more information and we'll come to you soon with updates. However,

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in the meantime, Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action

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will be closed for business until Monday.

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The fifteenth, likely longer.

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If you're in the field are traveling, please cancel everything

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and return home immediately. All internal, external meetings, etc. Are canceled.

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Please pray sincerely, Justin and then they offer grieving services

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counsel services for their team. I am so sorry to

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be bringing you this neops.

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I'm so sorry.

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I'm sorry for what it means for our country, for Charlie,

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poor dear Charlie, this family.

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Sorry for what it's going to mean for the debates

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that we have yet to have.

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That he would have won, he would have put everyone

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to shame on as.

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He had been. And I'm angry, really fucking.

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Angry about how this happened, why this happened, and why

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we don't have a person in custody.

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This guy was beloved.

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But you know what infuriated me more than anything I

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was thinking about this last night was the fact that

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Charlie for the Left for Democrats, staunch Democrats, was a

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good guy. He should have been, because he was willing

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to engage in dialogue with him. Look, let me tell

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you something. He's a better man than me, because when

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you get on my Facebook and you, you know, want

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to start some bullshit because of an opinion I have,

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I'm not engaging with you.

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I got no time.

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I don't have time for that. That's my attitude towards it.

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I don't have time to debate you. I'm not looking

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for you to change my mind, and I'm not going

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to try to change yours. You're welcome to think what

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you want to think, but I'm not getting into this

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because nobody, you know, who are you to go on

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00:27:36.799 --> 00:27:39.680
my page on something I posted and make a negative

478
00:27:39.720 --> 00:27:45.319
comment when you weren't invited to. In my opinion, he

479
00:27:45.440 --> 00:27:48.880
actually took the time to say, hey, let's talk about it.

480
00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:52.680
If I'm wrong, prove me wrong. That was his whole His.

481
00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:56.559
Whole thing was when people stopped talking.

482
00:27:56.839 --> 00:27:59.400
Yeah, so they killed the good guy marriage. It's what

483
00:27:59.440 --> 00:27:59.799
they did.

484
00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:10.279
Marriages and when communication stops, war start, when communication stops education,

485
00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:14.240
when we stop actually communicating with kids and we're just

486
00:28:14.279 --> 00:28:16.640
throwing test sett them and all of that learning stops.

487
00:28:17.680 --> 00:28:24.960
And I just can't even people that hated him, like

488
00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:29.799
we put too much stock and celebrities. Okay, I believe

489
00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:32.599
that wholeheartedly. Everyone's an influencer. Everyone has an opinion. Hell,

490
00:28:32.599 --> 00:28:33.759
I have a mic in front of me, and I'm

491
00:28:33.759 --> 00:28:38.559
a nobody, okay, But when we stop looking at both

492
00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:42.799
sides of an argument, when you get blinders and you

493
00:28:42.960 --> 00:28:45.359
only can look at one site. You've even said it

494
00:28:45.400 --> 00:28:47.400
to me before, ooh, you've got those rose colored glasses on,

495
00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:48.039
like when it comes.

496
00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:50.720
To law enforcement. You're right, But when you check me on.

497
00:28:50.759 --> 00:28:54.039
That, it does make me go within and say, you know,

498
00:28:54.119 --> 00:28:56.319
maybe maybe I do need to take a step back,

499
00:28:56.359 --> 00:28:57.079
Maybe I do need.

500
00:28:57.000 --> 00:28:58.759
To reevaluate the angle I looked at this.

501
00:28:59.119 --> 00:29:02.319
It's caused it cause his intern you know, you go

502
00:29:02.359 --> 00:29:04.359
with it inside and you start kind of thinking, well,

503
00:29:04.359 --> 00:29:05.599
maybe I do need to look at this from a

504
00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:06.240
different direction.

505
00:29:06.440 --> 00:29:07.880
And he was willing to engage.

506
00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:11.720
And that's whether you agreed with his opinions. And as

507
00:29:11.720 --> 00:29:14.960
I've said before, he said things I didn't necessarily agree with.

508
00:29:15.200 --> 00:29:16.960
Said a lot I did. I probably say I was

509
00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:21.240
about eighty five percent in agreements with what Charlie, but

510
00:29:21.279 --> 00:29:24.640
I respected the hell out of the fact that not

511
00:29:24.720 --> 00:29:26.880
only would he was he willing to open up a

512
00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:33.119
dialogue and have a conversation respectfully, mind you, but he

513
00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:36.079
also knew the resk. You know how many death threats

514
00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:37.960
Charlie Kirk has.

515
00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:40.720
Had, he brought it up thousands. Let me say this,

516
00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:42.279
let me say this.

517
00:29:42.440 --> 00:29:47.319
Yes, Cash Battel I have you know I'm a supporter

518
00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:50.720
of Cash Battel I, as a matter of fact, have

519
00:29:50.839 --> 00:29:54.559
read his book. The problem I have with this is

520
00:29:54.799 --> 00:29:57.440
cash for Cash to come out as the director of

521
00:29:57.480 --> 00:30:02.119
the FBI, and I quoted him the subject who shot

522
00:30:02.599 --> 00:30:07.960
Charlie Kirk is in custody. You can't do that. You

523
00:30:08.000 --> 00:30:10.960
cannot do that. Why Why is that a problem?

524
00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:13.200
Do I think? First of all, do I think he

525
00:30:13.279 --> 00:30:16.240
did it in some sort of malice? No? I think

526
00:30:16.240 --> 00:30:19.799
he truly believed they had the suspect of custody, was it? Yeah?

527
00:30:20.039 --> 00:30:22.839
Was his intel rome that he was told to him?

528
00:30:23.279 --> 00:30:27.599
Probably obviously so, because that guy was released. However, you

529
00:30:27.640 --> 00:30:31.039
can't make that mistake as the FBI director. You've got

530
00:30:31.039 --> 00:30:33.079
to make damn sure and be one hundred percent sure.

531
00:30:33.119 --> 00:30:37.880
Why is it important? Because everybody quits looking at that point.

532
00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:40.839
Now we're into the next day. This guy is still

533
00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:43.680
on the loose. But when THEI director comes out and

534
00:30:43.720 --> 00:30:46.319
says the dude's been caught. Everybody lets their groward down.

535
00:30:46.559 --> 00:30:49.160
Nobody's looking and saying is there anybody in the area.

536
00:30:49.279 --> 00:30:50.559
I don't recognize.

537
00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:53.519
That's what's crazy, And look, you can't do that.

538
00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:55.599
I might be putting on my ten foil hat right now,

539
00:30:55.640 --> 00:30:57.880
but I feel like that old man was a diversion.

540
00:30:58.160 --> 00:31:00.039
I feel like that was a diversion so that the

541
00:31:00.079 --> 00:31:03.079
real shooter could get away. Why would he all of

542
00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:04.839
a sudden make that scene? Now was obvious it wasn't

543
00:31:04.920 --> 00:31:06.480
him because he was right on top of Charlie, this

544
00:31:06.480 --> 00:31:09.839
old man that went down. So either he's a complete

545
00:31:09.880 --> 00:31:11.839
and total looney tune, which hey, I can give him

546
00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:16.240
that too, or because the security there wasn't security like

547
00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:17.640
for the president or something.

548
00:31:17.480 --> 00:31:21.279
Charlie ka police officers and for bodygarw and whoop do

549
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:21.440
you do?

550
00:31:21.480 --> 00:31:23.920
The bodyguards are standing behind Charlie Kirk looking vote up

551
00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:24.880
with their tattoos, which.

552
00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:27.480
Hey, shout out, don't like a tattooed man, But what

553
00:31:27.559 --> 00:31:28.319
are you doing.

554
00:31:28.119 --> 00:31:29.799
From behind that you're going to do other than what

555
00:31:29.839 --> 00:31:31.319
they did jump on his dead body?

556
00:31:31.640 --> 00:31:33.480
So what my point here.

557
00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:37.400
Is great for the show of security, but this was

558
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:40.920
obviously not well vetted as far as the real threats

559
00:31:40.920 --> 00:31:41.680
against his life.

560
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:43.440
And that's my personal opinion and I stand by it.

561
00:31:43.480 --> 00:31:44.319
Ten toes down.

562
00:31:44.319 --> 00:31:49.519
Because those buildings his Charlie Kirk, his security advisors or

563
00:31:49.599 --> 00:31:53.799
people in his team didn't like look at that.

564
00:31:54.279 --> 00:31:56.880
Well, here's the thing, Kaja, and this is I want

565
00:31:57.000 --> 00:31:59.960
everybody to keep this in their forefront of their mind.

566
00:32:00.559 --> 00:32:03.640
Charlie Kirk was a media guy. He was not the president.

567
00:32:04.039 --> 00:32:07.000
He was not he was not a member of Congress.

568
00:32:07.039 --> 00:32:10.640
He is not entitled to Secret Service protection, all those

569
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:11.400
sort of things.

570
00:32:11.960 --> 00:32:14.200
And so how many.

571
00:32:14.079 --> 00:32:20.440
Speeches has Charlie Kirk given, probably hundreds of thousands. Never

572
00:32:20.559 --> 00:32:23.559
has this happened, Never has he been shot at. Now,

573
00:32:23.599 --> 00:32:26.759
from a bodyguard perspective, I don't care what anybody says.

574
00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:29.720
At some point, you're gonna get complacent. You've been to

575
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:34.440
thousands of these and never even the slightest chance of

576
00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:35.839
someone shooting at you.

577
00:32:36.160 --> 00:32:38.599
They were there for the stupid kid that jumps the

578
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:40.920
barrier punch that's right now.

579
00:32:40.960 --> 00:32:46.000
These were legit professionals. These were former Navy seals, the.

580
00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:47.599
Same people that guard Joe Rogan.

581
00:32:49.079 --> 00:32:52.079
Look, Joe Rogan runs around with four Navy seals that

582
00:32:52.400 --> 00:32:54.680
could break into the Pentagon. They are the best of

583
00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:57.359
the best, and he pays them. I'm sure very well

584
00:32:57.680 --> 00:33:01.000
Charlie Kirk the same way. But you killed it when

585
00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:04.079
you said they're there to stop somebody from beating Charlie

586
00:33:04.160 --> 00:33:07.960
Kirk's ass or pulling out a gun close range type

587
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:12.400
of thing. If somebody wants to kill Charlie Kirk or

588
00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:16.359
the president or your milkman, they can do it.

589
00:33:16.640 --> 00:33:18.359
I don't care how much security you have.

590
00:33:18.440 --> 00:33:20.400
If they can get up on a perch and no

591
00:33:20.480 --> 00:33:23.519
one see them, they can do it. And there's nothing

592
00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:26.640
that's going to stop that unless you're behind You know

593
00:33:27.039 --> 00:33:29.680
what's sad about this whole thing is now we're going

594
00:33:29.720 --> 00:33:31.799
to get in a situation where when these people go

595
00:33:31.920 --> 00:33:34.119
to college, campuses are going to have to be surrounded

596
00:33:34.119 --> 00:33:38.200
by glass like Trump had to do, which when I

597
00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:41.359
saw that for the first time, I couldn't believe I'm

598
00:33:41.400 --> 00:33:44.119
seeing this in the United States of America that our

599
00:33:44.279 --> 00:33:48.440
president had to speak behind bulletproof glass.

600
00:33:48.839 --> 00:33:51.799
Well, and we say, Charlie and I know we're going

601
00:33:51.799 --> 00:33:54.240
along on this business.

602
00:33:54.960 --> 00:33:56.799
We're going to go till we say you're right.

603
00:33:56.960 --> 00:33:59.240
Charlie Kirk is not the president or something like that.

604
00:33:59.440 --> 00:34:04.200
But he absolutely was an influential figure that got massive

605
00:34:04.240 --> 00:34:06.119
and I'm not minimized, oh I know that, I know that,

606
00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:09.280
but he got mass attention. He had a lot of

607
00:34:09.320 --> 00:34:11.840
eyes on him, and he started quite arguably the most

608
00:34:12.480 --> 00:34:15.400
the largest movement in modern day history in terms of

609
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:19.280
conservative politics. It is the forefront of our show to date,

610
00:34:19.280 --> 00:34:21.360
it's the forefront of the media today, and it is

611
00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:25.920
September eleventh. It's a day of supposed to be and

612
00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:28.480
it is but of remembrance. And this day is so

613
00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:31.639
heavy for me personally because September eleventh rocked my world

614
00:34:31.639 --> 00:34:33.840
when I was a senior in high school. September eleventh

615
00:34:33.880 --> 00:34:35.679
is the date that I found my mother in law dead.

616
00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:38.360
And then September eleventh is now the day that I'm

617
00:34:38.360 --> 00:34:40.360
having to talk about Charlie Kirk being shot.

618
00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:43.559
And I've had enough. I've had enough.

619
00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:46.199
And this is where the problem is gonna start, you

620
00:34:46.239 --> 00:34:48.559
hear me. And it's not when someone say, well, if

621
00:34:48.559 --> 00:34:50.679
we take away guns, okay, great, then they're gonna mow

622
00:34:50.760 --> 00:34:51.719
someone down with the car.

623
00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:53.800
And then what we take away car, then they're gonna

624
00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:55.280
stab you with the knife, okay.

625
00:34:55.320 --> 00:34:59.239
And the whole reason that we have the gun rights

626
00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:01.360
we have in this cunt is so that we the

627
00:35:01.400 --> 00:35:04.679
people maintain the power of over the government. And the

628
00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:08.360
day that you stop realizing that is the day that

629
00:35:08.719 --> 00:35:13.239
you are not a free thinker. You're not a freethinker

630
00:35:13.280 --> 00:35:17.400
in my opinion, because I'm looking at history, and I'm

631
00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:20.760
bright enough to know history repeats its fucking self.

632
00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:23.400
Open a book, you know what I'm saying.

633
00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:26.199
Quit opening TikTok and listen to some dumbass twenty year

634
00:35:26.199 --> 00:35:28.440
old influencer who doesn't know anything and is trying to

635
00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:29.400
sell lipbalm to.

636
00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:33.000
You while talking politics. Maybe look at some facts.

637
00:35:33.119 --> 00:35:35.800
And I get impassionate about this, not because of the

638
00:35:35.800 --> 00:35:38.599
political side that we're on, but because I have a

639
00:35:38.760 --> 00:35:41.760
right as a citizen of the United States of America,

640
00:35:41.960 --> 00:35:45.880
to life, to liberty, and to the pursuit of my happiness.

641
00:35:46.199 --> 00:35:48.440
And when I wake up and I see that someone

642
00:35:48.599 --> 00:35:54.239
has had their life taken away, their liberty stripped from them,

643
00:35:54.559 --> 00:35:56.679
and now they no longer have that chance at a

644
00:35:56.679 --> 00:35:59.719
pursuit of happiness with their family, we have some fucked

645
00:35:59.760 --> 00:36:02.400
up people in this world. And I do not want

646
00:36:02.440 --> 00:36:04.719
to hear the next three things that I'm about to say.

647
00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:07.360
And if you're not with me, too, bad number one.

648
00:36:07.440 --> 00:36:09.639
I don't want to hear we're gonna be better for

649
00:36:09.719 --> 00:36:13.079
this the fuck we are. I'm tired of hearing that

650
00:36:13.920 --> 00:36:17.159
we're gonna, we're gonna recover and prayers for his family

651
00:36:17.199 --> 00:36:19.199
and then we move on to the next thing.

652
00:36:20.559 --> 00:36:23.239
No, we're not. I'm done.

653
00:36:23.400 --> 00:36:25.320
I have been taught to turn the other cheek my

654
00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:29.880
entire life. I've been I've been taught don't engage with crazy,

655
00:36:29.920 --> 00:36:31.440
don't engage with stupidity.

656
00:36:31.519 --> 00:36:33.320
Well you know what, Jim, It's time.

657
00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:37.760
It's time to fuck around and let's let some people

658
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:42.440
fucking find out. And I mean it with everything in

659
00:36:42.480 --> 00:36:47.599
my soul. I am tired of being complacent against crazy.

660
00:36:47.760 --> 00:36:49.920
I will not live in a world where people are

661
00:36:49.960 --> 00:36:53.960
sniping people because they disagree with them. This is the

662
00:36:54.159 --> 00:36:57.960
United States of America and to the Republic for which

663
00:36:57.960 --> 00:37:01.000
it stands, one nation under God. I quit in with

664
00:37:01.079 --> 00:37:03.480
liberty and justice for all, and I mean it like

665
00:37:03.559 --> 00:37:05.639
when I say the Pledge to the United States.

666
00:37:05.719 --> 00:37:08.280
I mean that liberty and justice for all, not for

667
00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:08.960
just the people.

668
00:37:08.960 --> 00:37:13.119
I agree with Charlie Kirk's irreplacement in a lot of ways.

669
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:16.880
There's there will, in my opinion, never be another Charlie Kirk,

670
00:37:17.360 --> 00:37:19.519
someone that could relate to young.

671
00:37:19.360 --> 00:37:21.199
People the way that he could.

672
00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:25.280
I shouldn't relate to young eighteen nineteen twenty year olds

673
00:37:25.639 --> 00:37:28.840
because number one, I'm nowhere near close to that age.

674
00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:32.280
But number two, it's a different ward from them. Charlie could.

675
00:37:32.760 --> 00:37:36.400
Charlie at eighteen years old found a turning point USA

676
00:37:37.079 --> 00:37:41.119
at eighteen eighteen. When I was eighteen, you know what

677
00:37:41.199 --> 00:37:43.039
I was doing, Chasing.

678
00:37:42.760 --> 00:37:45.880
Women, pretending to be pretending to be in the Red Cross.

679
00:37:45.559 --> 00:37:48.039
Pretending to be the Red Cross, all those things. I

680
00:37:48.159 --> 00:37:50.000
wasn't building no freaking company.

681
00:37:51.239 --> 00:37:54.719
But the thing that made him amazing outside of just

682
00:37:54.719 --> 00:37:59.239
his sheared genius and someone that was so quick with

683
00:37:59.320 --> 00:38:02.280
a response and an educated response, it was just some

684
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:05.119
UNBELIEFDB like he brought receipts. Yeah, he brought receipts with

685
00:38:05.199 --> 00:38:09.039
everything he said. Uh, there will never be another the world.

686
00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:12.599
And I mean Democrats, Republicans, independence.

687
00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:13.039
I don't care what you are.

688
00:38:13.440 --> 00:38:18.880
All of us lost that, and that sucks because one

689
00:38:19.000 --> 00:38:23.519
person is just crazy and out of their minds evil.

690
00:38:23.599 --> 00:38:25.400
They're not crazy, they're evil.

691
00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:27.039
Evil and crazy.

692
00:38:27.320 --> 00:38:30.239
Look, I posted this yesterday morning, and maybe we can

693
00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:34.280
wrap up with this, but I posted this yesterday morning

694
00:38:34.320 --> 00:38:37.039
before any of this occurred, and it was how I

695
00:38:37.119 --> 00:38:38.960
was feeling in the moment, and now it just seems

696
00:38:39.000 --> 00:38:42.400
even more poignant. I said, being morally clean won't protect

697
00:38:42.400 --> 00:38:46.719
you from the wolves. Being strategic, strategically useful will. In

698
00:38:46.760 --> 00:38:49.599
the real world, you aren't judged by your heart. You're

699
00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:53.519
judged by your leverage. You're either an asset or a liability.

700
00:38:53.800 --> 00:38:56.920
Stop asking to be liked. Become too valuable to ignore,

701
00:38:57.199 --> 00:38:59.039
And I think that's what happened with Charlie Kirk.

702
00:38:59.199 --> 00:39:00.519
He became too valuable.

703
00:39:02.320 --> 00:39:08.559
Yeah, sometimes you become so powerful with your words and

704
00:39:09.480 --> 00:39:14.239
valuable and powerful in his in when speaking about Charlie

705
00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:18.599
Kirk is really interchangeable because when you have the power

706
00:39:19.239 --> 00:39:24.639
to change people's minds by using common synsical arguments, Uh,

707
00:39:26.079 --> 00:39:30.280
the there is no nobody out there that doesn't credit

708
00:39:30.400 --> 00:39:33.440
Charlie Kirk for a lot of President Trump winning that election,

709
00:39:33.960 --> 00:39:37.000
because the young people came out and they voted Trump

710
00:39:37.400 --> 00:39:40.000
for the most part, and a lot of people believe

711
00:39:40.039 --> 00:39:44.320
it's because Charlie worked tiresly on campuses to go and

712
00:39:44.360 --> 00:39:46.559
say why are you not voting for Trump?

713
00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:47.599
Let's talk about that.

714
00:39:48.039 --> 00:39:50.320
And I'm going to tell you why I am voting

715
00:39:50.360 --> 00:39:53.400
for Trump, and he changed some minds and people don't

716
00:39:53.519 --> 00:39:56.559
like that. People don't like that kind of influence. And

717
00:39:56.599 --> 00:39:59.920
when he became so powerful that he was making sense,

718
00:40:00.679 --> 00:40:03.039
you know, some people's answer to that is to get

719
00:40:03.159 --> 00:40:05.760
rid of him. Eventually they're going to find out who

720
00:40:05.840 --> 00:40:08.719
did this. There's too much There is too much heat,

721
00:40:09.039 --> 00:40:12.679
too much heat on this individual, whoever that is. And

722
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we'll get a lot more information on that front. But

723
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let me say this one final thing and then we'll

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get off this subject.

725
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And thanks for hanging in there with us so far.

726
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People who are listening to.

727
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Oh, they love it. They love it.

728
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They don't want to get off the subject now. I

729
00:40:26.119 --> 00:40:28.119
mean they love hearing what we have to say. We

730
00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:32.639
don't have to apologize for saying our peace on this show.

731
00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:37.760
But I'll say this, Charlie Kirk knew the risk. He

732
00:40:37.880 --> 00:40:42.039
knew the risk death threats constantly. Let me tell you something.

733
00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:47.719
Kelly talks about true crime. I talk about true crime

734
00:40:48.119 --> 00:40:51.039
with Bloody and Gola and exposed. I kind of get

735
00:40:51.079 --> 00:40:54.559
into that. I've had my share of threats. They are

736
00:40:54.599 --> 00:40:58.599
not fun. Hell, I had a serial killer after me. Literally,

737
00:40:58.719 --> 00:40:59.119
I got.

738
00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:00.679
A death threat in prison within me.

739
00:41:01.039 --> 00:41:05.119
Yeah, So, I mean, none of them are fun. I

740
00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:07.159
don't care how tough a man or how tough a

741
00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:10.519
lady you are. They're scary. And in a lot of cases,

742
00:41:10.559 --> 00:41:13.880
it's not for yourself, it's for your family. And so

743
00:41:14.000 --> 00:41:16.760
I'm sure it ran across Charlie's mind many times.

744
00:41:17.519 --> 00:41:18.800
You know, me doing.

745
00:41:18.480 --> 00:41:21.000
This not only puts me at risk, it puts my

746
00:41:21.079 --> 00:41:26.079
family at risk. But he believed in his heart that

747
00:41:26.280 --> 00:41:30.119
the message was more important than his life, and sadly,

748
00:41:32.280 --> 00:41:36.679
you know, the worst nightmare came true for him. I'm sure.

749
00:41:36.960 --> 00:41:41.280
And all I can do now is number one, pray

750
00:41:41.320 --> 00:41:46.840
that this person gets caught swiftly. Pray that somewhere in

751
00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:52.079
this something good comes. I gotta believe something good will

752
00:41:52.079 --> 00:41:56.519
come out of this, because that's what God says. And

753
00:41:56.800 --> 00:41:59.639
pray for his family and his wife, and they've got

754
00:41:59.639 --> 00:42:02.920
a tough time ahead, and I just pray that somewhere

755
00:42:02.960 --> 00:42:07.400
in here they'll be able to find something, uh, to

756
00:42:07.440 --> 00:42:08.239
find happiness.

757
00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:11.320
And I don't want my when I say I'm praying,

758
00:42:11.440 --> 00:42:14.480
I don't want that to come across as the casual.

759
00:42:14.559 --> 00:42:16.639
Oh, I'll say a prayer and move on. No, listen

760
00:42:16.639 --> 00:42:16.880
to me.

761
00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:21.760
I'm speaking to my God on your behalf, and I'm

762
00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:29.039
asking that he covers your wife and your kids and

763
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:31.400
your mom. You know. Sorry, I don't know what the

764
00:42:31.400 --> 00:42:33.639
deal is. I just this is attack on an attack

765
00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:36.119
on all of us. Uh. It shows the fragility of

766
00:42:36.119 --> 00:42:41.239
life and and you should never have to be quiet, right,

767
00:42:41.559 --> 00:42:43.679
all right, let's move on to I believe this is

768
00:42:43.719 --> 00:42:45.280
the Boo Yoh Ivory Coast.

769
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:46.360
Have you ever heard of Boo Yoh?

770
00:42:47.000 --> 00:42:50.679
I have not, and I saw that article and I

771
00:42:50.760 --> 00:42:53.599
so while you're going through it, I'll check out where.

772
00:42:53.800 --> 00:42:55.440
Find a map, jum, so we know where we are,

773
00:42:55.440 --> 00:42:56.800
because I don't even know where this is right now?

774
00:42:57.119 --> 00:42:59.880
All right, but children and a baby are among the

775
00:43:00.079 --> 00:43:04.039
eleven who remained missing after a boat capsized a hippo

776
00:43:04.360 --> 00:43:08.320
overturned the boat carrying fourteen passengers on the Cassandra River

777
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in Bouyoh in the Ivory Coast. Hey everyone, Crime Wire

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