March 2, 2026

Bad Teachers: Kentucky

Bad Teachers: Kentucky
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Season 1

Jim brings you the stories of (2) Bad Teachers from the State of Kentucky that were arrested and convicted of having inappropriate relationships with students. 

Sydnee Graf: Louisville, Kentucky
Elena Bardin: Columbia, Kentucky

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Hey everyone, and welcome back to Exposed Scandalous Files of

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the Elite. I'm your host, Jim Chapman, and today I

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am continuing the Bad Teachers state specific series. Now this

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week we're going to Kentucky. But before we do, I

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want to shout out my newest Patreon Global celebrity member,

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Miss Sarah Boudreaux. Now, Sarah is not far as far

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as the location from where I'm recording right now, just

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forty five minutes or so in Laplace, Louisiana. And y'all

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know I love my fun that, so here's one about Laplace.

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It is officially the on Dewey Capital of the world.

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It was proclaimed that in the nineteen seventies by then

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Governor Edwin Edwards, which, for my non Cajun listeners, on

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Dewey is a spicy smoked sausage and it's typically a

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South Louisiana. So thank you so much, Sarah for your

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As I said, we're going to go to Kentucky this week,

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and the first bad teacher I'm going to cover today

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was recommended by listener Lauren, So thank you listener Lauren

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for bringing Sydney.

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Graf to my attention. Now.

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According to Sidney's ex profile, she is a wife and

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mother of two perfect boys, living her best life. We'll

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see about that. This particular case is very fresh and

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it's still in the courts, So everything I'm about to

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discuss I have to say legally, this is alleged. You're

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innocent until proven guilty. But here's the story I have a.

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Little about Sidney. She was thirty six years old at.

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The time of her and a fifth grade teacher at

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Smira Elementary School. This is in Louisville, Kentucky. So on

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December fifteenth of twenty twenty five, just a few months ago,

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she was arrested for having sexually explicit conversations with a

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male fifth grade student under the age of twelve, which

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in and of itself is absolutely sickening, but it got

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even worse when in January of twenty twenty six those

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charges were upgraded. So let's get into it. Due to

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how new that this case is, there's not a ton

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of information out there on Sydney's background, but what we

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do know is that she was born and raised in

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the Louisville, Kentucky area, and look, thanks to court records,

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we were able to find out that in two thousand

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and eight she was convicted of a dui that was

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at the young age of nineteen, and she was able

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to overcome this early stumbling life and at some point

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prior to twenty fifteen, she completes her education complete with

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a college degree, and she started teaching. Now I'm not

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sure if she was teaching at Smyrna Elementary at that

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point in time or not, but she was definitely teaching.

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In May of twenty fifteen, she gets married and then

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things kind of fall off in her background and they

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pick up again in twenty nineteen when she gets pretty

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active on social media as an anti Trump supporter. And

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I bring this up only because in response to a

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tweet from Hillary Clinton that was criticizing Trump for some

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comments Trump made regarding John McCain, she retweeted that post

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with the comment quote not you pedophile, which, as you're

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about to discover, was pretty considering what she was about

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to get arrested for in the future. Now, at this

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point in time when she was sending those tweets, Sydney

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had two toddlers, and by twenty twenty four, she was

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the fourth grade teacher at Smyrna Elementary School, and she was,

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by all accounts, the type of teacher you would want

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for your fourth grader. She was very active on social media,

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fundraising for school supplies, et cetera for her classroom, and

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would describe her students as some of the brightest, most

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kind hearted students she had ever had the pleasure of teaching.

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During the twenty twenty four twenty twenty five school years,

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as a matter of fact, she would transition into the

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role a fifth grade math teacher at that school.

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So to tell you what happened with this bad teacher,

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I need.

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To discuss quickly with you what an nt idea is

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and simply put this as an acronym for non traditional instruction. Basically,

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this is a day where, due to snowy weather, for example,

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students would have to have remote learning with the teacher

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to avoid getting out in that snowy weather.

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And it was on a non.

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Traditional instruction day that trouble with this bad teacher would start. So,

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according to the arrest report, someone and it doesn't specify who,

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reported to the school that during one of these NTI days,

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Sydney had sexually explicit conversations with a fifth grade student.

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So the school contacts police as they have to do

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as mandated reporters, and police start investigating and they managed

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to get screenshots in even videos of the conversations. Once

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all of this evidence is gathered, on December fifteenth of

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twenty twenty five, they arrest Graph and get this, when

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this sick individual is arrested, she is actually on the

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way to this fifth grader's house to pick him up,

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allegedly for rendezvous. So police bring her to the station

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and she admits to having these explicit conversations, and not

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only that, but a search of her vehicle uncovers drugs

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including hydra codone and adderall.

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So consider this.

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Your warning because I'm going to go into detail with

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what we know was said in these conversations that took place,

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and it's really graphic. It's going to shock the shit

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out of you. So if that upsets you, turn off

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the podcast now. But if you want all the details,

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regardless of how graphic they can be, here they are now.

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It's important to note that while the initial conversations would

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take place on an NTI day, it doesn't mean she

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was dumb enough to have them like in a learning

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room on Zoom or something with a bunch of students

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in the room while she's saying stuff to one particular student.

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In fact, my sources say the explicit stuff took place

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on Snapchat, and those chats included discussions about Sydney Graf

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wanting to have oral sex with this fifth grader and

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even going so far as to say, and I'm quoting

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this y'all quote, I really need to taste that dick

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fr FR, which is short for for real for real.

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Also in that chat, that's where her and this fifth

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grader start discussing meeting up, so she gets arrested for

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having those sexually explicit conversations as well as those drugs

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in her car, and on December sixteenth of twenty twenty five,

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the very next day, she gets arraigned.

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And I actually have a clip of that.

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It's only about six minutes in length, but it's very

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interesting if you don't know how these arraignments work. So

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here's that clip.

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Before we address your case, I want to make sure

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you understand your constitutional rights. First of all, the right

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to remain silent. You don't have to talk to anybody today.

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This gentleman's with the PDS Office Public Defender's Office. He's

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here to help you. If you have any questions, we're

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gonna enter.

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Our plea most likely if not guilty, figure out your

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next court date, figure.

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Out your attorney situation. You do have felony charges, so

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if you have a right to a preliminary hearing before

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a judge to determine if that crime was committed and

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committed by you. If you remain in custody, that hearing

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has to be held within ten days of today your arraignment.

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If you get out of custody, it has to be

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held within twenty days off your arraignment on down the road.

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You have the right to a trial and a right

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to appeal, But for today, we're going to enter that

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not guilty plea.

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Figure out if you.

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Want to hire your own attorney, if you're qualify for

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a public defender, figure out your bond, and figure out

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your next sport date. Okay, okay, Hang on a second.

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You are charged with procuring or promoting use of a

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minor by electronic means.

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It's a sea felony.

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I'm going to interruptly if not guilty to that charge

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right now. The bond is one hundred thousand full cash

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to hip if posted with no social media and you

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say you want to hire your own attorney internet, okay.

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Follow your experience.

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Okay, I believe, I believe it is great, great, right, good, Yes.

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Okay, I'm going to enter an appearance in the case.

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At this point in time, at least are the purposes

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for rangement all of my with according to permission.

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Okay, I'm Sidney.

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I'm going to enter a plea for you.

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Do you understand that he has said, Jackie, we're gonna

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admit her.

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Identity way form reading of your charges, reserve the right final.

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In the appropriate emotions of the later time and the three.

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Am not guilty.

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All right one of that plea if not guilty, note

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you at least for today's purposes, mister Miller, the bond

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is one hundred thousand full cast you hip have posted.

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She is a low one low one.

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Could we address the bond issue, Jesu.

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Of course.

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She even a longtime resident. Cheer you guys that are

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require her life. They are let's property here in town.

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She has two children here in town. She's married, has

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her family, her sister, and she said, well her years

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life or is she is not? She had one charge

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back about two thousand six or eight, a traffic violation.

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That's the only charge that I know is that she

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asked that representative back then. So assumed we charge on

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on this points.

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I realize that being charges are serious on one hundred

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thousand dollars, Jay, the question she cannot is not cost

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of today?

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Then I would suggested to throw all possibles ten percent.

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Unless you're now.

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All right, Miss Southern, you're.

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Honor based on the nature of the allegations of the county,

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would strongly object table introduction at this juncture. We are

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asking for there to be written no contact order, and

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that would be no contact with the juvenile victim, no

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contact with the place of violation, no content with any

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minor children, no social media or electronic devices, and no

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contact with any JCCUS property. Our position, as I said,

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is that given the facts and circumstances as seb or

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in the jc I'm sorry the uniform citation that this

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one is completely appropriate, and we're not disagreeing with mister

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Miller that her prior record consists of a two thousand

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and eight DUI. But nonetheless, these allegations are extremely serious.

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There are allegations of certainly contact.

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Josh, I'm not correct if the traffic violation was like

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a two thousand and six or eight.

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It's like fifteen or twenty.

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Years old, and fifteen years old, I said, I agreed

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with you.

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Oh, I followed, Yes I did, But I said I

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agreed that there was a two thousand and eight DUI.

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Yes, I'm sure.

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The allegations here are certainly extremely serious, extremely concerning related

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to the alleged contact with the juvenile in question, and

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then certainly of additional concern are the allegations that there

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were then not just contact that was electronic in nature,

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but then arrangements being made to meet the juvenile, and.

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Looks like there were actual.

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Attempts of picking up that juvenile from his residence, which

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is where the citation indicates that that's where she was apprehended. So,

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as I said, our position is that this bond is

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appropriate and should not be changed in anyway.

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All right, miss scrap, I am going to leave the

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bond where it is one hundred thousand full cash to

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hip with no social media and absolutely no contact with

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the victim in this case, no messages through a third party,

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no email, snail mail, nothing like that.

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All right, Jack, Can I ask, can we the ability

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to post real property jation?

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No cash only?

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Correct?

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Go through those correct? I never do real property, so.

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You hurt the public defender there.

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Attempt to get the judge to lower that bond, but

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no dice on that, and the judge held that bond,

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but it didn't matter. She made the bond anyway. And

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it's cash only, y'all, meaning she had to drop.

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Ten grand to get released.

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So when these people are arrested, the investigation doesn't stop.

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At that point.

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It's still going on, and by the time Sydney Graf

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is indicted, by a grand jury, more evidence of even

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worse crimes are discovered. As a matter of fact, the

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police discovered enough evidence, though the specifics are not available,

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to actually add charges including first degree rape of a

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victim under twelve, first degree sidomy of a victim under twelve,

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and unlawful transaction with a minor under sixteen, as well

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as additional drug charges.

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And I want to clear this up quickly.

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Sionomy can include anal sex oral sex, and a lot

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of people ask me, does that mean they had anal

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sex with the victim.

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No, not necessarily.

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In ninety nine percent of the cases sonomy, as it

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relates to a victim under twelve, especially when it's a

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female teacher and a male student, it usually means oral sex.

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Either the student gave.

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The teacher oral sex or vice versa, or in sometimes both.

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So I just wanted to clear that up. So she's

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taken into custody again because remember she was out on bond,

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and this time she's unable to post bond because it

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had been raised up to five hundred thousand dollars and

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that's a cash bond. She didn't have five hundred k cash.

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And as off this recording, she remains in jail now.

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As far as the time she is facing for the

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first degree rape alone, she's looking at twenty years to

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fifty years. Same with the sodomy chargers. She's also looking

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at ten to twenty years with that transaction of a

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minor charge, so she could end up spending the vast

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majority of the rest of her life in prison over this.

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Just disgusting under twelve years old. So let's move on

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to our next bad teacher, also referred by lessener laurene,

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and that is Elena Borden of Adare County, Kentucky. In

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this case is a different one because Elena she was

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a twenty seven year old English teacher who taught at

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the Adair County Detention Center. And she not only was

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convicted of multiple instances of engaging in sexual contact with

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a seventeen year old inmate, but she was also charged

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with soliciting a seventeen year old inmate to kill her

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forty nine year old husband.

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She was twenty seven.

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So bucket your seat belts for this one, and I'll

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start out by telling you Elaina was born in nineteen

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ninety seven. Not a lot of publicly available information out

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there regarding her background. But prior to twenty twenty, she

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does get married to her husband, and as I said,

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he was two decades her senior, and that's a big

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age gap. Also in twenty twenty, she starts working in

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the Adair County Schools as an English teacher. Now, by

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twenty twenty four, her career leads her to an even

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more unconventional path as she begins teaching at the Adair

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Youth Detention Center youth prison basically, and she's teaching English

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to incarcerated teens, including the seventeen year old boy we're

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talking about today.

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Now, she was.

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Paying this particular teen a lot of attention, and it

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was nuticsa by other staff. Early on at that center,

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Elainna and this boy just seemed to always be around

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each other. Other inmates were talking about this. Other staff

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was talking about this so much so that her boss

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had to have a as we would say here in

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the South, come to Jesus' meeting with her and tell

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her she needed to get away from this seventeen year old.

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The staff at one point even transfers this team to

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a different area of the detention center in an effort

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to rain this thing in. Now, all of this is

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going on while not only is this now twenty seven

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year old married teacher cheating on her husband, but she

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also has a five year old child.

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So on March.

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Twenty seventh of twenty twenty five, prison staff was conducting

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a routine search of cells, and it was during said

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search that they uncover some pretty damning stuff. In the

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cell of this particular seventeen year old. They find both

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letters and explicit pictures in the juvenile's bunk that were

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sent by Elaine and Barden. And this was quite the stash.

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All this wasn't one or two letters, how about one

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hundred and ninety three letters alone. They confiscate the letters

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and at this point the Kentucky State Police get called

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in and a full scale investigation is started. Now what

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police would uncover was pretty shocking. Those letters pretty dirty stuff.

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Not I love you, do you love me? More like

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fifty shades of gray dirty.

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There were writings back and forth referencing the teacher grabbing

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the teens balls and playing with the teens penis and

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things like that. That and even some references to the teen

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killing Elena's husband. Yep, you heard that right now. To

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be fair, and I'll discuss it in a few minutes.

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It was a reach that charge for soliciting a teen

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to murder her husband, but we'll get into that. Police

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do arrest Elina Barden on April second of twenty twenty

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five for first degree sexual abuse distributing obscene material to

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a minor, which for the new pictures that they found

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also in this kid's bunk, and as I told you,

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solicitation to commit first degree murder. So it's off to

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jail for this teacher. And it was not long after that,

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and not surprising that her husband files for divorce. This

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is in May of twenty twenty five. What would you

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expect Your wife has now been arrested for several different things,

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including trying to hire someone to kill you. And I

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want to offer my kudos to everyone involved in this case,

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from the judge to the prosecution to the defense team.

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The speed in which this one made it to trial

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was something I don't come across very often. In fact,

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the sheer fact that this case went to trial is

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also something I rarely see. And you can bet that

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solicitation of murder had something to do with that. So

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what came out during this trial, well, in regards to

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those one hundred and ninety three letters, many of them

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describing sexual fantasies Barden had for this team, and one

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in particular even reference to the fact that Barden was

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concerned about being labeled a pedophile and would urge the

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team to hide the letters. And that's important because it's

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a proof she knew what she was doing was wrong.

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You can't then come back and say, well, he was seventeen,

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I thought it was okay. Nope, you said it.

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In the letters that he needed to hide them because

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you were concerned you may be labeled a pedophile. Now,

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in addition to that, they uncovered evidence in these letters

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of kissing and groping. And of course, as I told you,

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they uncovered nude pictures of Barden that were found in

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his bunk and these were actually interestingly developed at a

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local Walmart and then given him, So these are physical pictures.

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Security footage was also shown to the jury of Elena

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Barden entering his cell multiple times and staying there for

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extended periods. Now, there were some writings where Barden would

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express concern of the fact that she did not want to,

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in her words, lose custody of her kids. In a divorce,

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but that she was not happy and she wanted to

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leave the marriage. And here's a key quote in one

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of the letters. In one of those letters, she said quote,

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I know you say you'll take care of him, but

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shouldn't someone else do it to take suspicion away from you?

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Nuot.

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Now, the Stenate testified he thought Barden was serious. However,

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Bardon said she was just joking about it. Now, she

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also kept a diary, and this is important to mention

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where she would reference the team getting rid of her husband.

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And if you were to look at the entire context

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of these letters.

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It could really go either way as to.

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Whether she was really wanting to plot to kill her

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husband or not. In the end, however, the jury did

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not buy that, and she was acquitted on the solicitation

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of murder charge, but she was found guilty of everything else.

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And I'm gonna play for you now the actual clip

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where the judge hands down that sentence, and then I'm

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gonna give you my thought on this whole deal.

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So here's that.

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I think I've received. I think four letters. I'm as

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Bardan received a letter from her parents, probably the best

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written letter I've ever received, and they're obviously very intelligent,

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articulate people. Received one from her husband, received someone from

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someone down at the jail and involved with jail ministries.

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And then I received the fourth letter that the identity

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of which.

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Escapes me right now, but I read it.

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Anything you wish to say prior to the court.

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Imposing sentence and no, y'all, I think everything was, you know,

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laid out in the letters as well as in the

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motions that we filed. I don't need to argue those, Judge,

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I think they're sufficient to rely on the pleadings just

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we we understand the jury's verdict, we understand what heard

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in the case. We obviously the court set through the trial.

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We still think there's certain issues with the case, obviously

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being adult, being a minor, those type of things, but

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the jury verdict was what it was, and we're prepared

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for the course ruling and we'll proceed. However, we need.

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To mister Wright, how about on your end, anything you

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wish to say prior to the courton posting sentence just fling.

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I would say that there's no reason to rehash the uh,

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the facts of the case.

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I give mister Roland's the court heard that over the

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course of the trial.

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You know, it's the case that that that a jury

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in the community and Adair County was able to hear.

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They certainly, I think took took the evidence and the

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instructions to heart and deliberated. And I would just ask

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the Court of census pardon in accordance with the jury's

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verdict that they rendered in the case.

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I think it was fairly try.

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I think the court didn't comment.

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There was a clean trial, and I think the I

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think the jury got it right, and I would ask

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the court to sence her in accordance with their verdict.

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John, Okay, mister, anything else on behalf of miss pardon?

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No, y'all anything you wish to.

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Say, miss pardon?

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Now?

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How it all right?

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This is a very unfortunate case, needless to say, Like

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I said, I was very impressed with the letters involving

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your parents. Let's start with the motion for a new

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trial and judgment of quittal.

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I'm going to deny those motions.

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I think this was a clean trial. I really don't

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see any issues that came up at the trial that

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I think would be a concern.

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From an appellate standpoint.

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I think the jury got the verdict right in this

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particular matter, all the way around, you know, in what

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we do, I've always said, and I believe that the

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juries get things right more than anybody else in our process.

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I absolutely believe that, and I.

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Think they got it right here.

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I really don't think you intended to try to solicit

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that young man to kill your husband.

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I don't think he did.

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I think the acquitto on that was the right decision

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by the jury. It's what I would have done if

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I had been sitting on the jury, if it had

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been tried in front of me. I think you were

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acquitted on various charges that you probably should have been

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acquitted on, And of course I directed a verdict on

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two of the accounts because.

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There wasn't any evidence I I to warn a conviction.

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You said one hundred and twenty one hundred and ninety

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three pages of letters.

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I think it was to this young man.

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One of them got you convicted.

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One letter, the one where you basically admitted to the

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sexual contact with this young man, which of course triggered

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the other charge in.

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This particular case.

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That that's what got you convicted, and the jury was

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right to convict you of it. You know, regarding the

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sentence on this particular matter. There have been situations, I

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think probably four times when I've had trials and I

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have reduced the sentence that a jury recommended because I

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just thought it was very unreasonable.

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What they had offered or what they had recommended the jury.

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I think I've done that.

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Four times and the many many.

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Trials I've had, and I've considered that in your case.

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The thing that about this, Miss Bardener, it's not necessarily

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in my mind, what I would probably would have done

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if I'd been sitting on the jury.

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I don't think I would have done fourteen had I

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been a jury.

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Because you're going to pull right under twelve of that.

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These are eighty five percent pro eligibility. The question that

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for me is that whether or not I think their

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recommendation was unreasonable to.

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The point where I'm not going to follow it.

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A couple concerns I have about the case and about

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your conduct in this case.

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First of all, you were an educator.

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Okay, you're an educator of these kids.

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These are trouble kits.

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That that's why they're there. I mean, you're there to

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set a better example. And the letters you sent, which

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I mean they were, they were juicy. I mean, there

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were things you'd see in a Triple X movie, completely inappropriate, obviously,

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and I think you know that for a for a,

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for a young man of that age, and as an educator,

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it was incumbent upon you to set a better example.

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My biggest concern is the fact that though miss Barton

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is this.

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Is that you were counseled to stop this.

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Okay, we heard testimony from your supervisor, basically the supervising

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educator at the facility when you when you taught there,

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Brad Stevens.

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He pulled in his office and said, hey, we're getting complaints.

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You're around this kid too much. You need to distance

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yourself from him.

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This is not a good look. You're you're gonna get

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yourself in a spot here.

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I think that another witness, Jessica Black, testified that they

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actually moved this young man to another part of the building,

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another pod, so to speak, to try to get him

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away from you. And ma'am, not only did you not

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take heed that advice and stop, it looks like to

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me you actually even doubled down on the behavior after that.

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And that's concerning that.

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That's that's concerning I know a lot of people in

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your letter talk about your mental health issues, that you've

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had issues with being bipolar, and and and I don't

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doubt any any of that. I will say, though the

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nine hundred and ninety three pages of letters pictures everything else.

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I mean, it depicts a very intelligent and articulate young

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woman who was clearly articulating her thoughts and desires to

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this kid.

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I don't doubt you have some issues, but it's just those.

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Issues aren't enough for me to not follow the jury

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recommendation in this particular case. I just don't find even

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though it might not have been what I would have

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done if I were sitting on the jury, it probably

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would not have been. I don't find it an unreasonable recommendation,

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and so I'm going to follow it. So on the

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case on the charge of sexual abuse first degree, I'm

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going to impose a sentence.

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Of four years.

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On the charge of unlawful transaction with a minor illegal

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sex act child under the age of eighteen, I'm going

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to impose a sentence of ten years. Pursuing into the

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jury's recommendation, I'm going to run those sentences consecutive for

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a total of fourteen years. I'm also going to sign

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an order requiring you to register as a sex offender

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as required by law for twenty years. I'm signing the

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interpersonal protective order that would prohibit you from.

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Having contact with this young man.

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I think that is for a period of.

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Three years.

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I think that should be I'm ten years. I'm sorry.

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Yeah, I don't really see that as being an issue,

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but that you are under a court order to have

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no contact with him for that period of time. And

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obviously I'm gonna wave your fines and cost on this

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particular case based upon the sentence, ma'am. I wish you

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the best, I truly do up on your release. You

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know it's gonna be It's gonna be a while, but

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in the big scheme of things, when.

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You are released, you're going to be a relatively young woman.

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You are.

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You have the rest of your.

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Life to live and spend time with your family and children,

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and I wish.

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You well up on your release. Good luck. That'll conclude it.

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You.

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So, this is the first time you will ever hear me,

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and likely the only time that a sentence may have

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been a little bit too stiff.

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And here's why.

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And I want you to throw out the whole kill

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my husband thing because she was acquitted of that. The

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fact is really what it boils down to. She was

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passing love letters in some new pictures back and forth

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to this seventeen year old and she may have touched

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is dick a couple of times. They never had sex

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or anything like that. Now, do I think she should

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have done some jail time? Yeah, two to four years

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seems appropriate. But fourteen years when just about every teacher

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that I've covered has had multiple instances of sex with

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multiple students a lot of the time, some of them

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fifty sixty times, and all they get is probation.

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This one just doesn't fit. It's almost on the extreme

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side of it.

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I'd be curious to know what your thoughts are, But

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there you have it. Another stayed down in Kentucky. I'm

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giving you a C on the bad teachers consequence scale.

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One of them I.

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Think suffered really too much of a consequence, the other

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one not enough in my opinion.

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So there you have it, you get a C. Thank

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you so much for listening.

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Before I get out of here today, I do want

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to mention this. I have had a conglomerate of messages

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asking me about Epstein files and am I gonna do

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an episode on Epstein. I'm not only doing an episode

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on Epstein. I'm doing an entire series on Epstein. It

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takes time, y'all. Hell, I gotta go through three million files,

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and look, I read this shit. I don't just go

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off the hip. I read and gather facts, and that

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takes time, especially in this case. I can tell you

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that the first episode is going to start off with

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the Palm Beach arrest of Epstein way back in the day,

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and we're gonna pick it up from there, and we're

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gonna go all the way up to today. And I

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know it's interesting as of today, Actually Hillary Clinton is

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right now as I'm recording, testifying in Congress. But yes,

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I'm gonna be issuing an entire series dedicated to the

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Epstein Files. It's coming your way. I'm exactly sure when

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that first episode is going to drop. It's still going

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to be a little bit. But I love it that

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y'all are interested in it, so am I. But that

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sucker will blow your mind.

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That will blow.

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Your mind when you're a storyteller, because number one, you

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want to get it all right, and number two, it

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is just so mind blowing. I can't even put it

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into words. But thank you for your interest, and that's

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coming your way. And until next time for exposed scandalous

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files of the elite, I'm your host, Jim Chapman.

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Much love

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Do